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00:00I can't act like I'm going to sit here and ignore this story anymore.
00:03It's just impossible.
00:05They asked Albert Breer about Miles Garrett yesterday,
00:09and is this the time to trade Miles Garrett?
00:12Here's what Albert had to say.
00:14I actually agree with some of the reason to do it.
00:16After June 1st, it becomes easier.
00:18On top of there being a new coaching staff there
00:21and the team being in the middle of a youth movement,
00:23I think that things are TBD until you hear otherwise.
00:27That could be next week.
00:29That could be the trade deadline.
00:31I just think when you're talking about after six years of Kevin Stefanski
00:34being in charge there, after a bunch of years of Tim Schwartz running the defense,
00:38and after doing what the Browns have done the last couple of years
00:41to try to stalk the team with young talent and get younger all over the place,
00:45this does feel like the type of time when you would entertain that type of thought.
00:52So what he says makes a lot of sense.
00:54I still stand by I don't believe that they're going to do it for a litany of reasons,
00:58but I won't deny what makes sense and just sit there and dig my head in the sand
01:04and say, well, yeah, you can't do it because, as he says, like, yeah,
01:08you can get a really big haul for Miles Garrett after June 1st.
01:13Look at what Khalil Mack went for.
01:16Look at what that price was, and I think you would be looking for that sort of return for Miles
01:20Garrett.
01:21And if you wait a year or two, like, now look what Von Miller got traded for
01:25when the Broncos traded him to the Rams, and I think the Broncos probably waited a little too long.
01:30The Broncos still got a decent return for Von Miller,
01:33but it certainly wasn't the same as what they would have gotten if they had traded him, like,
01:37a year or two earlier.
01:38To me, like, that makes his age a very relevant factor here.
01:42I still think you can get a huge haul for him.
01:44If you don't do it now, and you're not taking a really hard look at it now,
01:48you risk in a year or two when maybe your team is really ready to win getting a lot less
01:53for him.
01:53So that's what Andrew Barry has to consider if people are going to come along and make offers.
01:57This isn't a player you even have to shop.
01:59You know what I mean?
02:00Like, teams are going to show their interest in a guy like that.
02:02If you were listening at 637, I might have painted this wrong for everybody
02:07because I made it out to be dueling insiders.
02:09It's not that Albert's saying he's going to be traded.
02:11He's giving you reasons why it makes sense that he should be traded, is what Albert's saying.
02:17Mary Kay Cabot, she was on Baskin and Phelps yesterday,
02:21and short of slamming the table, which is something I would do.
02:25Sadly, I don't like to slam the table because it messes up the cameras in here now
02:28when you watch us on YouTube Live for absolutely free.
02:30Mary Kay Cabot on Baskin and Phelps emphatically saying that Miles Garrett is not going to get traded.
02:36No, I just don't see that, and I've been consistently saying that, reporting that.
02:40I just don't think so.
02:42I know a lot of people read a lot into Todd Munkin's very terse no
02:46when asked if he's met Miles yet last week at the OTAs,
02:50but I still don't think that there's anything to it.
02:53I just don't.
02:54I'm not feeling it.
02:55I really do still hold true to what Andrew said when he told us last month
03:00or whatever month it was at the owners' meetings that he believes that Miles is a career brown,
03:05and I don't think they have any intentions of trading him, at least certainly not this offseason.
03:09So I bring this up because last winter, Mary Kay knows something about Miles.
03:16I know a lot of people, every time we talk to Mary Kay, we talk about Mary Kay.
03:20I know Twitter is going to go off and go nuts.
03:23There's something about Miles she knows about.
03:25Because I remember last winter, before they signed that contract, two winters ago,
03:29I was turning off the mic and looking at you going, I think she's nuts.
03:33I think she's nuts.
03:34I think she's lying to herself.
03:35This guy's gone.
03:36He's doing a radio tour.
03:38He says he wants to be on a contender, and then what ended up happening?
03:41Mary Kay ended up being right.
03:42And there's been several instances, that's to me the most extreme one,
03:46there have been several instances where I've kind of turned off the mic
03:48and given you a side eye during a Mary Kay answer,
03:52and short as hell, she ends up being right about it.
03:55And so they're at a weird spot because if you have this young talent,
04:00if you let him go, you're going to get a haul.
04:03And later on in that interview, Albert names names.
04:06Like, of course, there's Dallas that would be involved.
04:08The Rams make a sense.
04:10The Eagles are always a team.
04:11That's lurking.
04:13And I think that Albert's right, by the way, because the second it was asked,
04:17it's like the Browns are going to go out on June 2nd.
04:20I don't think they're going to go out on June 2nd and go, all right,
04:22we're going to make them available.
04:23Give us your best offers.
04:25I think there's probably been some conversations and some offers out there,
04:28and I think that maybe Andrew would look at one of these teams and go,
04:33you have the inside track.
04:35Give me the very best of what you can give me before we do anything else
04:38because there's definitely going to be other teams that are going to be involved in this,
04:40but they're going to keep this quiet.
04:42I definitely think there's probably – I definitely think there has been phone calls made
04:47because there's phone calls made on everybody, but this is major stuff.
04:50This is two, maybe even three first-round picks over time,
04:54definitely two first-round picks, and then more seconds, more thirds, things like that.
04:58Like, you're going to get a lot for Miles Garrett.
05:00It makes sense long-term.
05:02It does, but when you're the Browns, you still have young players.
05:08You're going to tell them that this season doesn't matter.
05:10You are going to tell them straight out that this season is –
05:12when you trade Miles Garrett in June before we're getting ready for a mini camp,
05:17like, yeah, you'll try to circle the wagons.
05:19It's such a gut punch to the current team, and now you're going to have to go
05:22through the season, and then you're going to have to find the guy
05:25because you're telling the world here you think nothing of your quarterbacks.
05:29This is an indictment on your quarterback room if you make this trade.
05:33Although the Cowboys made a blockbuster huge deal with Parker.
05:37But they had Dak. They had a veteran.
05:38But that didn't mean that they didn't have a quarterback, that they made that trade.
05:41But why are you trading Miles Garrett now?
05:43You're trading Miles Garrett for the 2027 draft.
05:45To start to align your windows, right?
05:48They've got so many young players.
05:50They had so many young players last year, and now you're infusing
05:52basically the entire team is going to be young,
05:54with the exception of maybe Denzel Ward.
05:56Who knows? Maybe that's fodder for a trade by the deadline.
05:58Caleb Williams, they went out and got people for Caleb Williams.
06:01They went out and got people for Patrick Mahomes.
06:03They went out and got people for young quarterbacks.
06:04This is taking away the player of the entire franchise defensively
06:09from your entire quarterback room.
06:10You're telling everybody what you think of the quarterback room,
06:14whether you like it or not.
06:14Whether they like it or not, that's what they're doing.
06:17They're punting on this season when you trade that guy,
06:19and then we're just getting ready for 2027.
06:21So you're taking Browns fans' eyes off your own team
06:23and making them pay attention to Saturdays instead of Sundays,
06:26and just already starting this role, this chant for Moore or Manning
06:32or whoever it may be.
06:33We'll talk about Sorsby coming up at 7.
06:35That was very interesting.
06:37But that's the ramifications of what you're doing.
06:39Are you okay with that?
06:41Are you okay and secure enough with Todd Munkin at 60 to go,
06:45hey, this is a tough doing here.
06:48We're going to go ahead and we're going to make this move,
06:50but you're going to be just safe.
06:51I don't know if I buy all that.
06:54Look, I totally buy it.
06:56To me, it never made sense to have an aging, you know,
07:00on the other side of 30, a dominant, dominant, dominant pass rusher,
07:04and then the rest of your team is young and no quarterback.
07:07Like, what sense does that really make?
07:08In every avenue.
07:10If you, Kenny, if you were doing national radio or TV or podcasting,
07:15you would be saying.
07:16But I never said it didn't make sense.
07:17It makes sense.
07:18Yeah, you would be saying every day, like, why are they wasting Miles Garrett's prime?
07:22We're never going to get to see him play for a Super Bowl.
07:24We're never going to get to see the premier defensive player of the era,
07:27you know, have a chance to do big things in the playoffs.
07:30Can I also recognize that he did sign a long-term contract just last year,
07:35even though he threw out that he wanted to be traded to a contender?
07:38Or is that just something I would say because I'm Kenny in Cleveland
07:40and I have my head in the sand is what you're insinuating.
07:42Wait, you're saying that because he should be, like, loyal to the contract?
07:45No, no, no.
07:46I'm not saying he should be loyal to the contract,
07:48but I'm going if we believe that he's in this mess
07:50and he needs saved from this bad situation,
07:52he had a chance to save himself from this situation just last year.
07:55He could have held firm and got everything he wanted.
07:57He could have gotten a huge contract and got paid.
08:00Now, I say that as soon as the words come out of my mouth,
08:03he could just get traded and get another contract.
08:05Yeah, oh, yeah.
08:05That's what would happen.
08:06And that's probably what would happen.
08:07He would be the highest paid again.
08:09So, damn, no matter what he does,
08:10because he's so damn good, he can do whatever he wants.
08:12That's why it's never been a big deal.
08:14Well, and I said, if I'm Miles Garrett,
08:16and do you believe that the Browns gave him their plan of attack a year ago?
08:21Remember that was the big story,
08:22that once he made the rounds and did the Super Bowl,
08:26Radio Row and all that, that the Browns comforted him?
08:29I don't.
08:30I don't.
08:30So it was just the contract?
08:31I think he was trying to be, when he got signed.
08:34You think he needed to do all that just to get the contract, though?
08:36Well, I just, I think he was trying to.
08:39He should have just gotten the contract.
08:40He shouldn't have had to do anything to do that.
08:41No, when you sit there and tell people that it's about competition,
08:44nobody wants to admit it's about money.
08:46This is the old adage.
08:47And when you're telling everybody it's about being on a competitive team,
08:50and then you sign a massive contract,
08:51and you're doing interviews right after.
08:53But so were the Browns playing hardball with him over that contract,
08:56that he needed to go public and humiliate the team the way he did?
08:58No, I think he agreed to do an interview.
09:01He was asked about what they have up their sleeve at quarterback,
09:04and I think he acted coy.
09:05I don't think he knew what they were going to do at quarterback.
09:08I don't think any of us did.
09:09No.
09:09I don't think they told him anything.
09:11How can you guarantee him anything of what they were going to do at QB?
09:13At that time, you couldn't guarantee him any of that stuff.
09:17You could say you're going to go after every single person out there.
09:19It just doesn't mean you're going to be able to get them.
09:21Yeah, I guess what I'm, what I'm,
09:23because you're making it sound like that was all last year.
09:26Everything he did PR-wise,
09:28even to take the hit with a lot of fans who, for some fans,
09:31he'll never, he'll never be able to beat that rep.
09:34I'm not saying it's a sizable portion of the fan base,
09:36because he came out and fans were adoring him as he set the record,
09:40the sack record.
09:41But did he need to do all that to get the Browns to responsibly pay him?
09:46No.
09:47All he had to do was do what he did.
09:48So why do you think he did that?
09:50I don't know.
09:51I don't know.
09:52I don't know why I agreed to any interview, Anthony.
09:54I guess what I'm getting back.
09:55You're trying to get me to explain the actions and the thoughts of a guy
10:00who, you can't really explain it.
10:02He keeps everything to himself.
10:03I'm not in his head.
10:04Well, the reason I ask the question is,
10:06is it crazy to think that behind the scenes he wants out again?
10:09It's not crazy to think that.
10:11No.
10:11Why would it be crazy?
10:12And if that's the case,
10:14like, is it shocking that they redid his contract,
10:17that he hasn't been back with the team,
10:19he hasn't met with anybody since all the new hires and the new staff members,
10:23and to the point where even the national guys now,
10:25like Peter Schrager and Albert Breer,
10:26like, it is kind of strange that he hasn't been back with the team.
10:29Can I throw another one with you with 20 seconds left?
10:31Would you be surprised if he just signed another extension with the Browns?
10:34That could be.
10:34That's what I'm saying.
10:35Why am I having to answer questions about his actions
10:38when none of us really know what the guy's thinking?
10:40Why wouldn't they have just already done that?
10:41Like, what's the way he's earned it?
10:43Do they have to wait until after June 2nd?
10:45I'm not trying to be obtuse.
10:46I'm not trying to be difficult.
10:47I don't know the capology there.
10:50I don't know all the machinations.
10:51It's just, there's no doubt, like,
10:53he's earned to be the highest paid player that's non-quarterback
10:56and probably higher than most of the quarterbacks.
10:58He's earned that already.
10:59And it seems like the Browns would have no problem paying it, right?
11:02Remember, they're the team with the cash,
11:04the liquid cash flow that should be able to do that,
11:06not hamper the salary cap?
11:09When it comes to Miles Garrett's stuff, it's not going away.
11:11All right?
11:12And from the 30,000-foot view, you are right.
11:14If you and I were in Chicago and I was still hosting CBS Sports Radio
11:18on the weekends, it's big-picture stuff.
11:21It would say, you're not doing better with him on the field.
11:25He's not doing better on the field.
11:26It's time to move on.
11:28It's time to liquidate the asset.
11:30And when Albert goes deeper into context, I mean,
11:33it's a great interview with the guys in the afternoon.
11:35It was really well done where he's going, hey,
11:37he brought up Von Miller and how Von Miller was towards the end.
11:40They could have got a bigger haul.
11:42Khalil Mack, maybe the Raiders could have got a bigger haul at the time
11:45had they had done this a little bit sooner in a team that really wasn't competitive.
11:48All that is very, very true.
11:53It's just that I don't think that they're going to do it.
11:56It's not that I don't want it to happen.
11:58Listen, we've been in this quagmire.
12:00You won five games last year.
12:01You won three games the year before.
12:03If we've got to go to where we've got to go
12:05and finally cleanse ourselves of this Watson stuff, fine, do it.
12:10Because I know I've got a good young football team there.
12:13And it's tough for me.
12:16Well, we don't know if they're good yet.
12:17I mean, they have some young talent.
12:19Well, there's some talent on the team.
12:21The sum of the parts, but you still don't think you have a quarterback.
12:24So if you still don't think you have a quarterback,
12:25then it's really not going to matter.
12:26I mean, I've seen a collection of good Browns players go to other teams
12:31and end up playing well for teams that had quarterbacks,
12:33that had the sum of all the parts together,
12:35that didn't switch through GMs.
12:36Or had better coaching or had whatever.
12:37Yes, all those things.
12:38I think I've got some good young players here.
12:41Miles is a great older player now.
12:43He's 30 years old.
12:44So, yeah, you can get a haul back.
12:46And from a different point of view, I'd say yes.
12:47It's just hard to look guys in the eye
12:50and tell them that this season isn't going to matter
12:52because you're going to do this.
12:53If you did this before the draft,
12:55hey, let's circle the wagons.
12:57You'll still try to rally everybody.
12:59But if it happens post-June 2nd,
13:03it's going to be a big gut shot to this team
13:06and what everybody thinks of this team.
13:07Because you're telling the world exactly what you think this year is going to be.
13:10Or even if you're getting all those picks back,
13:12what you may hope this year is going to be.
13:13Sure, no teams want to trade their best player.
13:17But they also have to acknowledge the ages and the gap in years.
13:24Does it ever make sense to have one of the youngest teams in the NFL,
13:27which is what they're going to be this year,
13:29and then the 30-year-old dominant defensive pass rusher does it
13:34when you could, you know, continue to accrue?
13:37Like, we've all admitted the only way out of this for the Browns
13:39is to draft their way out of it.
13:40You're not going to do it in free agency.
13:42And you're most likely, you can only do so much when it comes to trades
13:45because what do most teams not want to do?
13:47Trade their good players.
13:48So, it's always going to be in the draft.
13:52And the best way to do that, because we all acknowledge even the best GMs,
13:56you know, there's a high bust potential, you know, even for the best GMs,
14:00you know, in the opening two rounds.
14:02Well, the best way is to get the most amount of first-round picks
14:04that you possibly can over time.
14:07I mean, that's unfortunately the reality of it.
14:09And the Browns have been trying to get out of this hole for so many decades.
14:13Brings me to a second thing.
14:15They trade Miles Garrett.
14:16What do you expect for the season?
14:18Yeah, not good.
14:20Okay.
14:20So, what's the point of playing Deshaun Watson then?
14:22To me, it reopens the conversation of quarterback and who starts a quarterback.
14:26Now, if Shador isn't ready to go, then that's a different conversation.
14:31Maybe he just wouldn't be ready to go.
14:34But if we're trading away Miles Garrett in this scenario
14:37and you're getting draft picks back, I don't want to hear nothing about Deshaun Watson.
14:40I don't want Deshaun – I really don't want Deshaun Watson to play.
14:42I'm already begrudgingly going, yeah, it's Todd's call.
14:46He's the veteran.
14:47It makes sense.
14:48This, that, and the other.
14:50I think everybody knows – I think your quarterback is playing college this year.
14:55Right now, I think the future of your franchise is in college somewhere
14:58within about five teams right now.
15:00And maybe even in the supplemental draft,
15:02but that's a conversation we'll have later in the show.
15:06But, man, I'm going to kick the tires on Shador.
15:10I don't need to do the Deshaun Watson thing.
15:12So you're going to trade Miles Garrett, which is going to make the fans upset.
15:15And I understand.
15:16They'll think big picture probably and eventually warm to the idea.
15:19You're going to make fans upset by trading away Miles Garrett,
15:21and then you're going to turn right around and start Deshaun Watson like,
15:24mm-mm, no.
15:25They might talk themselves into thinking they have a chance,
15:28but I think a lot of people know where they stand on this.
15:29So even if, like, they think and Todd Munkin thinks it's totally clear
15:35that Deshaun understands the playbook better, can do more, has more tools,
15:39has more physical tools even after all the injuries,
15:42and he's able to demonstrate it in front of Todd when they're doing the OTAs.
15:45Todd's a real nice guy.
15:46Then up into the training camp.
15:47Like, are you not going to listen to the coach?
15:50Are you going to think organizationally they should do it?
15:52I'll listen to every single word because eventually if Shador goes in there
15:55and he plays with any modicum of success, I'm going to say you wasted all that time
15:59on the guy that nobody wanted to see.
16:02Nobody really wants to see him.
16:03I mean, there's always going to be a minority of people out there
16:06that want to see anything, but nobody wants to see this guy.
16:09And so you're either, to me, if you do make this trade,
16:12if you were to make a trade with Miles Garrett,
16:14I'm done with the whole Deshaun Watson conversation.
16:17I'm really looking forward to it.
16:18You guys want to do it from big picture?
16:20Let's do it from big picture because Deshaun Watson,
16:23I don't think, again, he wants to be here.
16:24I'll pull the string on what I say all the time.
16:26I don't think he wants to be here.
16:28I don't think Browns fans really want him here.
16:29I don't think Browns fans think he's really that good.
16:31So what am I investing in?
16:33Nothing except anything in the past,
16:35and all that is is bad memories and ugly arguments.
16:37With Shador, there's no ugly memories.
16:39No, there's no ugly arguments.
16:40We'll just go ahead.
16:41Well, there are some ugly arguments on the internet,
16:43but in real life with all of us and everybody,
16:45it's like, hey, let's see if he can do it,
16:47and if he can't, fine.
16:48Throw another name on the back of the jersey,
16:50and I'll see you at the draft.
16:52No harm, no foul.
16:53No harm, no foul.
16:54Now, with Deshaun Watson, there's always something that comes with it
16:58where there's some sort of little fine print that we didn't actually read,
17:03and now we have to deal with this, and I'm done with that.
17:05So if you want to keep Myles Garrett, fine.
17:07You want to compete.
17:08You believe you can be competitive.
17:10If you want to play the veteran and think that he's more ready to win week one,
17:13fine.
17:13But once you trade away Myles Garrett, you're telling the world what you stand for,
17:16and then I'm more interested in seeing Shador Sanders.
17:19I definitely think I'd change every opinion of what I've had if there were to be a Myles
17:24Garrett trade of every opinion of what I've had about that quarterback start.
17:28Yeah, I just, I wonder, like, we keep talking about the messaging.
17:32What's the message of trading Myles Garrett?
17:33What is the messaging in this hypothetical, this theoretical, to the team, to those, you know,
17:41to everybody?
17:42By trading Myles?
17:43No, no, by starting the guy that, in their eyes, might not be as good as the other guy.
17:48Like, you always wonder.
17:50We've had so many guys come in, some former players, and are like,
17:53no, you can't start the guy that's not better.
17:55You've got to start the guy that's better because that sends shockwaves to the locker room.
17:59But you don't trade the guy that's better.
18:00That sends shockwaves to the locker room.
18:02You don't trade the best that's ever done it.
18:03But if that's already done, in the spirit of this argument.
18:05So why don't we go even further with it?
18:07If we all intend on what this season's, I mean, again, if they trade Myles Garrett,
18:11am I getting through?
18:13Like, you can try to lie to yourselves all you want, fine,
18:16but you're just wasting more time with Deshaun Watson.
18:19You're more than welcome to go lie to yourselves and say, well,
18:21because this is what would happen.
18:23If you were to trade Myles, from what Albert Breer and Schrager and all these other guys
18:28are bringing up, right?
18:30If you do trade Myles, there will be a blowback from your fans.
18:34And then we'll see the picks and we'll go, well, he didn't really want to be here last year.
18:37He wouldn't be here this year.
18:38And then you would probably start to say, well, he wasn't.
18:40I mean, all the signs were there.
18:42Ken, you didn't want to see it.
18:43He didn't talk to Todd.
18:44He didn't come into the building, all this, that, and the other.
18:46He was ready to go, fine.
18:48But if he's ready to go and you're still trading the guy
18:50and you're still letting go of the biggest piece of your franchise there,
18:54you're not ready to compete now.
18:56You're admitting you're not ready to compete.
18:59You're going to turn around and be a great team with Deshaun Watson
19:02as a starting quarterback who hasn't played well in six years?
19:04I mean, that's a pretty – if we're talking about far-fetched ideas,
19:07that's about as far-fetched as I can think of.
19:09That a guy who hasn't played well in six years is all of a sudden going to turn it on
19:12and light up the NFL and be the comeback story of the year
19:15with a team that thought that when they were dead in the water
19:17might trade away their greatest defensive player that's ever played for him.
19:19Why does everybody think he's got – why do all the national guys seem to think?
19:22And why does it seem like the Browns, they're not really denying the messaging
19:25that's out there from the national perspective?
19:27Because he's the veteran.
19:28And they're probably getting us all ready for him to start.
19:30Right.
19:31So why would they be doing that at all, whether or not Miles is here or not?
19:33Why is that dependent on if Miles Garrett's trading or not?
19:37Because I think that they think he's the better quarterback.
19:39It's my personal opinion.
19:40You could think he's the better one and he's the more ready one as it is.
19:43And maybe Shador just isn't ready and I have to accept that.
19:46But I'm going to be in the back of my mind.
19:48You want to start Deshaun Watson?
19:49Fine, but as soon as he goes out there and sucks up the room
19:52and then your defense can't even do it because you've lost 95
19:54because it's hard, 95 makes everybody on that defense better.
19:58So if you lose him, you're going to be losing a bunch.
20:00It's not – no offense to Alex Wright, no offense to anybody else.
20:02They ain't him.
20:03And we know that.
20:04So it makes their jobs easier when he's buzzing around and playing on defense.
20:09When he's no longer on that defense, it's going to make everybody's jobs harder,
20:12including that offense, including Deshaun Watson.
20:15So then we have to ask ourselves, what do we stand for as a season?
20:18Do you think whether or not Miles Garrett is there or gone
20:22and you're Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion and maybe even Harold Fannin,
20:26if you are those guys, do you think they care that Garrett leaving
20:33should dictate the quarterback?
20:35Like I think that would be confusing to them.
20:37I think they would just want the better quarterback.
20:39But I'm either going to be all in or all out.
20:40I'm sorry.
20:41They're rookies.
20:42I can't care right now what Denzel –
20:43Denzel Boston might be a good wide receiver and so could Casey Concepcion.
20:47But I'm saying you're either all in or you're all out.
20:49You're either trying to win this year or you're not trying to win this year
20:51because we have that many quarterbacks that are coming out in 2027, Anthony.
20:55So that's where I'm at.
20:56It's either 100 miles an hour or zero miles an hour for me.
21:00So you train Miles, fine.
21:01Just tell everybody what it is.
21:02But there is a big difference between Super Bowl contending trying to win
21:06and just a bunch of young guys trying to win.
21:08Yeah, there is.
21:08It's the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they've hated their team over the last decade.
21:11Yeah, but for the actual players.
21:13Like, I don't know.
21:14Do you think if Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion, Harold Fannin,
21:18and Quichon Junkins –
21:19like, yeah, they wouldn't want Miles Garrett traded,
21:21but do you think that changes their perspective on how they go about operating every day?
21:25As far as –
21:26Like, showing up to work, trying to get the most out of their seasons,
21:30trying to develop the offense.
21:31Like, that's the defense.
21:32We're the offense.
21:33Like, we can only control what we can control.
21:37I don't think – I'm talking big picture.
21:39I don't think that matters to me.
21:40I don't think I care.
21:42All right.
21:43I mean, you're asking me a whole lot of questions.
21:44This is turning into a deposition.
21:46Like, I'm trying to answer them as best I can to give you my thought.
21:49Like, do you think that they should start –
21:51still start Deshaun Watson if they traded Miles Garrett?
21:53I think if Deshaun is definitely better in every area,
21:57that's going to be really hard.
21:58Like, you're going to start to erode the team from within,
22:02starting the wrong guy, quarterback.
22:03Well, again, if he just shows that he is just more ready
22:06and Shador is that far behind, okay.
22:08But if he goes out there and he sucks,
22:10like, if he's terrible week one,
22:12you get ready to pound the drum, Tone.
22:14Yeah.
22:14Get ready to pound the drum.
22:15Of course.
22:15Because we're just wasting our time here.
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