Intervista a Raffaele Sollecito: il delitto di Perugia. Un giallo internazionale, una guerra mediatica: protagonisti Donald Trump e Hillary Clinton
2017.02.07 - Intervista a Raffaele Sollecito (Minoli) Faccia a Faccia La7
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00:00Now an international news story, Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox first convicted and then acquitted.
00:07A case in which practically the entire world's media intervened, including Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
00:50So, Raffaele Sollecito, in your case we even saw Trump and Hillary Clinton united
00:57in affirming Amanda's innocence and in some ways his own as well.
01:02If it were up to America, nothing would have happened.
01:06Why was it that for America you were innocent, America was innocentist and instead here everyone was guilty?
01:12Well, unfortunately many media outlets have spoken through the mouth of the prosecution, about the investigations carried out by the prosecution,
01:19that is, the police investigations themselves.
01:22Look, did America somehow save you?
01:24No, because I tell him why, the judges who acquitted us then look for a year,
01:32there is a very sad interview with Judge Hellman in which she talks about the pressures she was subjected to
01:38to convict Amanda as an American within her own panel of judges in Perugia.
01:44Here, let's take a closer look at how it went from the beginning.
01:48Good morning, someone practically entered the house by breaking the window and put a lot of money and there is
01:58a closed door.
02:00The way is...
02:09Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito called the police.
02:13They've been dating for a couple of weeks.
02:15She is 20 years old, she is an American student.
02:17He is 23 years old, from Bari, and studies engineering in Perugia.
02:20Returning in the morning to the house she shares with other students,
02:23Amanda finds a broken window and bloodstains in the bathroom.
02:26The door to Meredith Karcher's room, an English student in Italy on Erasmus, is closed.
02:33She doesn't answer.
02:34Amanda asks Raffaele for help and together they call the police.
02:38One of the confidants that isn't there, we're not called...
02:40No, no, no, no.
02:41We tried calling her, but no one answers.
02:44Okay, I'll send a patrol now so we can check out the situation.
02:48The policemen break down the door, blood everywhere in the room,
02:52on the ground, covered by a torrent, Meredith's body, her throat slit and signs of sexual abuse.
02:57Amanda and Raffaele declare that they spent the evening and night together at Raffaele's house.
03:02The Meredith case explodes and goes international.
03:05An English girl was killed, an American woman and an Italian boy were involved.
03:09The world's press invades Perugia.
03:11Articles and live TV broadcasts are multiplying.
03:14Amanda and Raffaele immediately hit the headlines
03:18while they kiss and exchange effusions the murder machine.
03:22The English press attacks Amanda, a demon with the face of an angel,
03:25a man-eater, Foxy Noxy, Amanda the fox, the American press defends her.
03:31Then, during a new search of Sollecito's house, a knife compatible with the murder weapon was found.
03:36Amanda's DNA is on the handle, Meredith's is on the blade.
03:4047 days later Meredith's bra hook is acquired.
03:44There's Sollecito's DNA on it, but the police say Meredith was killed by three people.
03:49The third DNA on Meredith's body is Rudy Gede's and his is the bloody footprint next to the body.
03:56Arrested in Germany and is on the run, Gede will say, coming out of the bathroom I saw a blond boy running away and Meredith who
04:02he was bleeding.
04:03Amanda wasn't there, but then she remembers her too.
04:05Looking out the window at the silhouette of Amanda Nox.
04:10Rudy Gede was sentenced to 30 years with a bridging trial, later reduced to 16.
04:14Gede's trial ends and Amanda and Raffaele's begins.
04:18They claim to be innocent.
04:20Look, you Sollecito have always declared yourselves innocent, but she says that even today she somehow feels the
04:28eyes of those who judge her differently.
04:31Why do you think so?
04:32Because many people were left with the hook and the knife, which were, however, proven to be completely false evidence.
04:38But do you think you did something wrong in your behavior?
04:43Well, it's not behavior that decides whether a person is guilty or innocent in general.
04:46No, of course, but then the behavior...
04:49Well, I was a 23 year old boy, surely if I had minded my own business and gone to Gubbio
04:55things would have been very different.
04:57It's as if I had defended myself from the beginning by getting a lawyer, even though I was only a person informed about the facts,
05:03the story would be very different.
05:04Listen, so you're not blaming yourself for anything?
05:08I reproach myself for having been naive, but at my age, what knowledge did I have of the mechanisms of justice?
05:13Listen, did you not even just join those Facebook groups you were criticized for?
05:18Look, I've already answered that point enough.
05:21He doesn't want to talk about it.
05:22I think this is a totally pointless argument.
05:26Listen, the subtitle of your book, A Step Out of the Night, says everything you didn't imagine about me.
05:33What is it that we haven't imagined about her?
05:36Well, they talked about me, many media talked about me without actually knowing who I was, they didn't know me
05:41never known, never talked about it.
05:43So they were talking about it so nonsense?
05:45They talked about it according to the idea that the prosecutor had formed of my personality.
05:50So, in your opinion, the prosecutor's office was directing the newspapers' reports?
05:54In my opinion, the information that was circulating was dictated by the prosecution and therefore by the evidentiary framework.
06:01So my personality had also been invented and reconstructed according to the scenes in the evidentiary framework.
06:06Now, in the book she says that nobody wants to consider that Amanda and I were just the fruit hanging from the
06:15nearest branch.
06:16So what does it mean?
06:17We were the first ones near the crime scene, we were found there by the police.
06:22So you were the most comfortable?
06:24Exact.
06:25Do you think there was some sort of conspiracy behind your comforts or superficiality?
06:30No, there was a great deal of superficiality and a rush to close the investigation as quickly as possible.
06:35But what kind of person was Amanda at the time of your relationship?
06:40She was a twenty-year-old girl, we met, we were very taken with each other, but...
06:47But did she love him?
06:48It was an initial infatuation, I can't say...
06:52How many days? A few days?
06:53Five days, we're talking about five days, so anyway...
06:55And Amanda?
06:56Amanda is the same with me, only obviously life took us a totally different path.
07:02But she says that when the lawyer Buongiorno decided to attend, the first thing he told her was that
07:08he asked her,
07:09He asked her if she was covering for Amanda in any way. Why did he ask her that question?
07:14Because there were some minutes that were completely... they were declared inadmissible
07:20because they had violated both mine and Amanda's rights during their acquisition
07:25in which Amanda made some very strong statements.
07:28But what about her?
07:29She said she had been there, at the scene of the murder, that Patrick Lumumba was there, she had heard screams,
07:37but obviously it was a situation where there was a medium, there were 40 policemen, a report made up of 15 lines
07:43with 15 hours of interrogation, therefore a totally paradoxical situation.
07:50And what did you answer Buongiorno when she asked you that question?
07:53No, absolutely not, because moreover, as much as I love her, I was in a situation
08:00where life and death were discussed.
08:02Sure. But did you know Meredith? What kind of person was she?
08:05No, I didn't know her. I met her, let's say, briefly, so to speak, because we said hello.
08:11sometimes just because she was a friend of Amanda's and with whom...
08:14But were she and Amanda friends, really?
08:17From what I was told, yes.
08:19Listen, but according to the reports Ghedet knew Amanda and Meredith, but how come they knew each other?
08:24and they hung out with a guy like Ghedet and Amanda and Meredith?
08:27No, Ghedet actually hung out with the boys who lived downstairs.
08:30Downstairs?
08:31Downstairs.
08:32He, Amanda and Meredith had met him a few times, but they had never had a
08:37of a close relationship.
08:38And she had just seen him around like that?
08:40No, I've never met him.
08:42Oh, never met?
08:42No, I read these things I'm saying in the documents.
08:45Oh, listen, okay, let's get back to the trials.
08:47The trial opens in a cursed Perugia, described by the newspapers of Mezzomondo as
08:52dark, violent, full of sin, with the brains of the kids made to fly between joints and sniffs
08:56of coke and then rinsed in alcohol.
08:59In the courtroom, public prosecutor Mignini had no doubts.
09:02Amanda, Visini and Vita brought boys home.
09:04The other housemates say so.
09:06Meredith no.
09:07That evening Meredith finds Amanda, Sollecito and Ghedet at home.
09:10The three, under the influence of drugs and alcohol fumes, decide to put in
09:15the plan to involve Mezz in a heavy sexual game is underway.
09:19Meredith explodes, expresses a negative moral judgment on Amanda, she is proud and arrogant
09:24reacts.
09:25The fight begins and then the murder.
09:27The DNA traces of Amanda, Raffaele and Rudi are proof of everything.
09:31Rudi sentences Nox to 26 years in prison and Sollecito to 25 years.
09:39For Meredith's family, justice has been done.
09:41The Nox family announces the appeal and the doctor rises up against the sentence and against the
09:46public prosecutor.
09:47He's a maniac.
09:48It wouldn't matter to him if she was innocent or guilty.
09:52He just wanted to bring in the scalp.
09:54This is a miscarriage of justice.
09:56I think the president should absolutely get involved.
09:59And I think people should boycott Italy.
10:02They shouldn't go to Italy.
10:03She's not guilty.
10:04Hillary Clinton promises to take care of it.
10:14And so Amanda brings together Hillary and Donald, Republicans and Democrats.
10:21I don't want to be punished, deprived of my life, of my future for something that is not
10:31I did.
10:33Because I am innocent.
10:36Investigations and findings end up under accusation in the courtroom.
10:39According to defense experts, the crime scene was repeatedly contaminated.
10:43The withdrawals took place in total confusion.
10:46Amanda's DNA on the knife handle is certain.
10:49Meredith's on the blade no.
10:51It's a contamination.
10:52And the forensic police confirm it.
10:54There may have been contamination.
10:56Italian justice becomes the target of the world's media.
11:00And the prosecutor of the final ring states.
11:03To defend the honor of this State which is a sovereign State.
11:09Then the appeal ruling.
11:11He acquits both defendants because they did not commit the crime.
11:15Orders for the immediate release of Noxamanda Marini and Solegito Raffaele.
11:22It will take another five years, a new appeal, and two Supreme Court rulings to reach the final verdict.
11:29For the president of the fifth criminal section of the Court of Cassation, Gennaro Marasca,
11:34the accusatory framework is not supported by sufficient evidence.
11:38Amanda and Raffaele are not blameworthy.
11:40Poorly conducted investigations, culpable omissions, investigative amnesia and contaminated evidence
11:45they do not allow for certain proof of guilt.
11:48Amanda and Raffaele are acquitted without a referral, that is, no new appeal.
11:53And the press headlines: Acquitted forever.
11:55Meredith is my friend and has saved so much in this life.
12:02I'm the lucky one.
12:03So, thank you.
12:04When was the last time you saw Amanda?
12:07I saw it when I wrote a book of mine in the United States, so a few years ago.
12:13And do you hear each other or not?
12:15Sometimes, we have two totally different lives now.
12:20I mean, there's no kind of bond left, right?
12:23A friendship.
12:25Well, but the fact that Amanda was American, in some way, do you think it helped him?
12:31No, I repeat, it was not like that, because the environments within the Perugia Court
12:40they were absolutely against this, let's say, this Americanism.
12:44But the pressure from these media was certainly felt.
12:47No, we felt the pressure from the guilt-mongering media, the English and Italian ones.
12:53Well, the Americans were in favor, though.
12:55Yes, but the Americans anyway, apart from that we are talking about a small town, but anyway they had
13:00seen the issue in a fairly broad way.
13:03Even the English, the English newspapers that spoke against us anyway are
13:08gossip magazines.
13:09Listen, though, it's precisely in America that you went to publish your first book.
13:15Why?
13:17Well, I found the opportunity to write a book there.
13:21That is, did he feel like it was a supportive environment in any way?
13:24Yes, yes, it was definitely a supportive environment, definitely.
13:29Then I wasn't, America is very big, I wasn't constantly recognized like I am here.
13:35Here, when you and Amanda were acquitted, he asks, he said, I am the impossible condemned,
13:41accomplice to an innocent murder.
13:44That's not the case, because there are some inaccuracies in the video too.
13:49That De was convicted alone and the Court of Cassation established that possibly for the competition
13:55it would be necessary to establish whether there was a competition in the other trial which was referred to us,
14:00because he was convicted before us.
14:02In our trial the Supreme Court said that, given the facts, our innocence is given,
14:11Raffaele Amanda's participation in the murder cannot be seen as evidence of any possible involvement in the murder.
14:20Listen, in your book you write and often repeat that during the many trials many people were heard,
14:27but she never actually gave her version.
14:31But why? How is this possible?
14:32When they heard me they completely violated all my rights, even Amanda's,
14:36because it was the same night.
14:37And so what I said remained outside the process and they never wanted me to again.
14:44listen to me.
14:45Was what he said not worth it? Was what he said no longer worth the trial?
14:47No, it wasn't valid anymore.
14:48And then something during the trial?
14:49No, no one wanted to listen to me anymore.
14:52Why?
14:53Maybe they weren't interested, maybe what I had to say wasn't important,
14:57In my opinion, they simply wanted to push forward an accusation that was based on a sandcastle.
15:02She writes that the lawyer Buongiorno often repeated to her that in real life and in the trial documents
15:08She was innocent, but it all depended on who she was facing.
15:13What does this mean? That justice is ultimately a stroke of luck?
15:17Unfortunately, yes, because in Italy there are always those who do their job well and those who don't.
15:23It depends on who you're dealing with.
15:25Do you consider yourself unlucky?
15:28No, obviously not in the end.
15:31But I lived through a tragedy for ten years, so the bad luck was to happen and be stuck in the middle
15:37to something I know absolutely nothing about.
15:39Listen, but would you have made it without a lawyer like Buongiorno?
15:43I don't think so.
15:44She served four years and wrote that the days in prison pass by, but the nights are terrible.
15:51It's terrible because you can hear screams of pain and muffled cries.
15:56Why is it ghost time? Have you had ghosts in jail?
15:59No, actually while I was in prison I was just suffering.
16:03There weren't many ghosts, also because I hadn't had any trauma before prison.
16:10In reality, the ghosts and traumas evolved after his release, so after a few years.
16:16But why did you give up isolation?
16:19Well, because it's better to risk your safety than to risk self-destruction.
16:28Because that would have happened.
16:30Surely.
16:30So, was he afraid of retaliation from the other prisoners against him or not?
16:35I repeat, the fear of self-destruction was much stronger because isolation plays tricks on the mind.
16:43He says that you don't see the beatings and the violence in prison, but you feel them.
16:49It means that you can hear the banging on the walls, the shots, the screams.
16:53And does that happen because you break the prison rules or because of what you went to prison for?
17:00There is an ethical code within the prison which is made by the inmates themselves because they are left alone to
17:06if you were in that world.
17:07And this ethical code precisely says that the people who must be considered, in quotation marks, ignoble are the infamous,
17:15people who have used violence against the weakest.
17:19But someone accused of killing a girl like you is not a scoundrel, right?
17:24No, he is not a scoundrel, he is a disgusting person, so to speak, who attempted, who did harm to a
17:30weakest person.
17:31So in fact they had to move me to a cell, in a maximum security prison.
17:37Listen, I read that you once went to Meredith's grave, but why?
17:41And I was invited by an English journalist friend of mine who told me he knew where it was and we are
17:47went in complete secrecy.
17:50But do you think Meredith got justice?
17:53Yes, I think so.
17:55In her opinion, yes.
17:57Here, I remember that...
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