L'intervista di Francesca Fagnani a Eva Mikula, ex compagna di Fabio Savi, uno dei tre componenti della Banda della Uno bianca
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00:01The next guest is Eva Micula, the partner of Fabio Savi, one of the leaders and killers of the Uno Gang
00:08White.
00:08Eva Micula was there, she saw and heard everything, and we'll hear from her soon, but first Stefano Nazzi.
00:16Between 1987 and 1994 the members of the so-called White Uno Gang carried out operations between Emilia Romagna and Marche
00:26103 criminal actions.
00:28They killed 24 people. They started with highway toll booth robberies, then moved on to supermarkets, and finally banks.
00:39They were ferocious, cruel. They killed during robberies for the fun of it, to prove that they could do anything, that no one
00:49could have stopped them.
00:50But they also killed in cold blood. They murdered three Carabinieri officers on the night of January 4, 1991, in the Pilastro neighborhood of Bologna.
01:01Their car crossed paths with the soldiers. For no reason at all, they turned around and started shooting.
01:09And they killed out of racism. They shot three men of Senegalese origin, killing two of them.
01:17They fired on a Roma camp, killing two Italian Sinti.
01:22There is something that makes the actions of that gang even more shocking.
01:27Five out of six members were police officers.
01:30The criminal gang was led by three brothers, the Savis. Two of them, Roberto and Alberto, were police officers.
01:41The third, Fabio, had applied to join the police force, but was rejected due to poor eyesight.
01:50They arrested them. At the end of 1994, two policemen from the Rimini police headquarters,
01:56to be the first to realize that the guilty parties were to be found among their colleagues.
02:03When he was arrested, Fabio Savi, considered the leader of the group, was living with a girl of Romanian origins.
02:12Her name was Eva Micula.
02:18Thanks to Stefano Nanzi and we welcome Mrs. Eva Micula.
02:24Good evening, welcome.
02:28Eva Edit Micula.
02:31She was the girlfriend of Fabio Savi for two years, one of the three brothers who were members of the Uno gang.
02:38White,
02:39who between 1987 and 1994 committed armed robberies and other acts of gratuitous violence,
02:49resulting in 24 deaths and 114 injuries.
02:54She was the partner, as we were saying, of one of them, Fabio, between 1992 and 1994.
03:03Two years that are worth a lifetime or can we get rid of that legacy?
03:11Two years that are worth a lifetime, and perhaps more than a lifetime, many lifetimes.
03:18What is your relationship with the truth?
03:22Optimal.
03:22I mean, is it great to say that she is always and only sincere?
03:26The truth is my strength. The truth has always been my strength.
03:30When Fabio was arrested in 1994, she was in his company at the border with Austria,
03:39as you tried to escape, he tried to escape.
03:43She was then accused in seven trials from which she was acquitted.
03:48and was found aware but not complicit.
03:51Is that a fair definition you like? Aware but not complicit?
03:58Aware, yes, but not complicit, yes. So, yes, it's a fair definition.
04:06At the end of the whole trial she was given 14 months for possession of false documents.
04:12and for having participated in illegal arms trafficking at some point
04:15and for a theft of 40 Lire at the expense of his partner, Fabio Savi.
04:23Is this right?
04:24Of Lire.
04:25Of Lire.
04:27But above all, she has become the super witness, right?
04:31After the arrest of the three Savi brothers, she nailed all the other members of the gang
04:39and it revealed, let's say, a scenario that was previously unheard of compared to the paths that had been followed up until then.
04:45What was your contribution? To what extent did you contribute to the understanding of everything that revolved around it?
04:52to the band?
04:53It seems to me that at the time of the capture, from an investigative point of view, they were perhaps at 10-20% in
05:03seven years.
05:04They didn't even know what criminal actions this gang was committing.
05:12because the crimes from '87 to '94 were attributed to different gangs.
05:20Listen, but despite the contribution to the truth that you have made and that you believe you have made,
05:26She is a character who has always aroused great curiosity but also a lot of mistrust and skepticism.
05:35Is it something that bothers you or does it not affect you that much?
05:41It doesn't affect me because I know who I am, I know what I did, I know what I didn't do.
05:49and I also know that people have not been properly informed about me.
05:55But obviously, I imagine you're clear on the reason for such mistrust, right?
05:59That is, the fact that she somehow decided to speak only after the arrest and not before.
06:07That's one of the reasons, right? Why, let's say, there's always been a bit of mistrust towards her.
06:12Because people not knowing the truth of gang detection
06:18They rightly say you knew and didn't speak.
06:22But this also happened, she knew for a long time and didn't speak.
06:25Not for long because she previously said two years of living together
06:30but in those two years, it's not as if I knew who Fabio Savi was from the first day I met him.
06:36Then we will get to the arrest for gratitude.
06:39We can only now anticipate that she believes she actually contributed to the arrest of the Savi brothers.
06:45while we say the procedural reality says something else.
06:49That is, they got there regardless of her.
06:51and this doesn't concern the fact that she then spoke and said everything she knew.
06:57If the news suggests that I was an accomplice
07:02It's normal that public opinion considers me more of an accomplice than a victim.
07:06And instead you consider yourself just a victim?
07:08No, I certainly don't consider myself an accomplice.
07:11But not a victim, that's all.
07:13But we need to see what is meant by victim.
07:16Who cries more or who cries less
07:18is more of a victim or less of a victim or must he die to be a victim.
07:22I consider myself a victim survivor.
07:24This certainly yes.
07:25Carlo Lucarelli by Lady Isseva Micula.
07:28A real mystery.
07:30They made me a mystery, yes.
07:34Did they get me wrong?
07:35It's a little true.
07:36That she is a mysterious woman.
07:38I knew how to defend myself.
07:40Sometimes, to defend yourself, you don't have to reveal all your cards at once.
07:46She has been called many different things, I'll list a few.
07:50The gang's femme fatale, the killer's doll, the gang's cashier,
07:55the woman with the gun, but also the prostitute spy.
07:58Leaving aside the last one, obviously,
08:01Can you identify with one of these ways of defining it, or are they all wrong?
08:06The list is much longer.
08:10These are definitions for those who don't know me,
08:15for those who saw me through the headlines in capital letters
08:20where only the accusations against me were highlighted.
08:24She was born in 1975 in a Romanian town on the border with Hungary.
08:30She grows up in a very modest family, let's say, and knows real poverty.
08:37Then as a young girl, at ten years old, I allow myself to say this only because she told it in her book,
08:44at ten years old her brother, 17 years old, nine, seven years older than her,
08:49he starts abusing her.
08:51He subjugated me, he dominated me psychologically,
08:53he told me it was a game between brother and sister
08:56and that I wasn't supposed to tell our parents anything.
08:59For how many years did the abuse go on?
09:02I come from a humble family,
09:06which does not mean poor.
09:11A humble family, a peasant family,
09:14sound principles, simple people.
09:17Returning to your question,
09:20yes, unfortunately my childhood was assigned
09:25from this sad experience that I lived.
09:30For how many years can I ask him?
09:34Four.
09:35For four years, so from ten to fourteen years?
09:38Yes.
09:39Look, when he realized that it wasn't an innocent game,
09:43but of violence, of abuse?
09:46When she had the perception, because she was a little girl,
09:48maybe he didn't even have the tools to decipher, right?
09:50I began to understand when I was fourteen and a half,
09:55fourteen, fourteen and a half,
09:57my father told me
09:58you have to get married at eighteen,
10:01you must marry a virgin,
10:04you will find yourself a husband,
10:05if not I'll find it for you,
10:06my father, master father,
10:11and when he told me this
10:13I focused on the word virgin.
10:16What does it mean?
10:18And there I started to have the awareness
10:21of that deception I was in
10:25and what my brother was doing to me.
10:29He never spoke to his mother,
10:31he couldn't talk to his mother?
10:33It was all taboo in the family.
10:36When I realized,
10:37I understand
10:40that I was being abused by my brother
10:42and I couldn't talk to anyone
10:45and I had a father who was already violent.
10:48Who beat her?
10:49He used to beat me often.
10:51And to me too, to my mom too.
10:53He used to beat us often.
10:54I have slept outside in the stables many times,
10:58I was herding cows when I was 12 years old
11:01and he came home drunk,
11:02he used to hit us all.
11:03But when she first told me
11:05that she comes from a family of sound principles?
11:08What do you mean?
11:09Sound principles, morals...
11:12Well, excuse me if I may, well...
11:16No, moral in the sense...
11:20For me they were sound principles,
11:22but even now I find some healthy principles
11:25in what...
11:26He lived.
11:27Not in what I have experienced,
11:28that is, what I have never accepted
11:30it was my father's behavior,
11:31so much so that I've reached a point
11:33and I ran away from home.
11:34He did a great job leaving.
11:36It was just...
11:37I mean, I wanted to ask her why,
11:39well, it was felt at the beginning
11:40to underline me
11:41what a family of sound principles he had had.
11:43This was what struck me a little,
11:45Understood?
11:46However, in the meantime communism had fallen,
11:48the borders open,
11:49At 15 she can't take it anymore
11:51and he runs away and goes to Budapest.
11:53She was very young
11:54and he makes do as best he can, right?
11:57What job does he do?
11:59In Budapest?
12:00Yes, at 15 years old.
12:03I clean bathrooms,
12:04I'm a cleaning lady
12:06in restaurants.
12:07In restaurants.
12:09And after a few months
12:12I'm becoming a waitress.
12:15I was still a minor
12:16and I'm struggling to find work.
12:21And then she arrived truly without a penny.
12:23Who helped him?
12:24Nobody.
12:26In Budapest,
12:27she at 16,
12:28knows Fabio Savi
12:29who was there with a friend of his on vacation.
12:32Fabio Savi,
12:32we remember it,
12:33one of the members of the band
12:34of One to Bianca.
12:36And one evening on the street,
12:37she after work,
12:38is it flanked by the car, right?
12:40In which Fabio was there
12:41and this friend of his.
12:42She was with a friend of hers,
12:43a colleague of hers.
12:44They stop her
12:45and they ask him about a place.
12:47In short,
12:47then they invite her
12:48to get into the car
12:50to go to the disco
12:51Together,
12:53she without knowing him
12:54nor Fabio
12:55nor the person he was with,
12:57she and her friend
12:58climbs
12:59and from there onwards
13:00the evening begins,
13:01No?
13:02She trusted him.
13:03Yes,
13:04we went to the disco.
13:07Fabio will say,
13:08she knows it,
13:09Fabio Savi will say
13:10that when he met her
13:12she says
13:13to make a living
13:14she prostituted herself
13:15and he will say
13:16let's say that
13:16that knowledge
13:17of a night
13:18him
13:19he had paid for it
13:20200 thousand lire.
13:24Has it ever happened to me?
13:25that a man
13:25when he feels betrayed
13:27he says
13:28to a woman
13:29the worst things?
13:31That wasn't true
13:32this whole thing
13:33because then there is
13:34he knows that there is also
13:35that Hungarian journalist
13:36which played a role,
13:37No?
13:37Here she is at a certain point
13:38she turned to
13:39to ask for help
13:40when he was in Italy
13:41to have
13:42of information,
13:43she tells,
13:45The dog,
13:45look,
13:45I don't even try
13:46to pronounce the surname
13:47because it is unpronounceable,
13:49and he said
13:51of having known her
13:52in a house
13:52of pleasure.
13:55He said
13:56who knew me?
13:56He said this, yes.
13:58Where?
13:58In an interview,
13:59when in short...
14:01Meaning what,
14:02confirmed
14:03this aspect
14:04however,
14:04I am trying to say,
14:05it is not
14:06it's not fluent,
14:07I ask it
14:08just because
14:08in the reconstruction...
14:10No, but look,
14:10Let's dispel one thing,
14:12to me
14:14it wouldn't change anything
14:15after 30 years
14:16to tell
14:17if maybe
14:18in a moment
14:19of need
14:20maybe I was
14:21to do
14:22or I did something
14:24for a fee.
14:26No,
14:26it was a case in point,
14:28It doesn't change me
14:29and it wouldn't have changed me
14:31Nothing
14:31not even at the time
14:32because maybe
14:33I could really stay
14:34in a moment
14:35of need.
14:37If I don't say so
14:38because it wasn't true.
14:40Perfect.
14:41Listen,
14:42Fabio Savi
14:42in a deposition
14:44telling
14:44let's just say
14:45your meeting,
14:47not the first meeting
14:48but anyway
14:48when he met her
14:49he says
14:50was reduced
14:51very bad,
14:52his nails were broken,
14:54short hair
14:54that she had cut herself
14:55with scissors
14:56in the homely way,
14:57it was rather
14:58round,
14:59swollen from bad food,
15:01he wore greasy trousers,
15:02a faded shirt,
15:03a pair of ankle boots.
15:06It was true.
15:07Was it true?
15:08Savi had double
15:10of his years
15:10because when you meet
15:12she is 16 years old
15:13and he 32
15:14and she says
15:15in addition to the attraction
15:16something more snapped,
15:18the pleasure of being together.
15:20What did she like?
15:21of this man
15:22that he didn't know yet?
15:24All this
15:25that was new
15:26she was attractive.
15:28She is 16 years old
15:29and he 32
15:29the bigger,
15:30what about her
15:31the attraction of this man?
15:32Exactly that
15:33that maybe I missed
15:34that at the time
15:35I thought it was love
15:37but today
15:37as an adult woman
15:39and mature
15:41I can translate it
15:42like a lack
15:43of protection,
15:44a father figure.
15:45At that point
15:45with false documents
15:47that you get
15:48she and Fabio Savi
15:49through
15:50let's say a friend
15:51that is there
15:51in Budapest
15:52he moves
15:53in Italy
15:55and he
15:55who was married,
15:57she knew it
15:57who was married
15:58he had a son,
15:59he leaves his wife
16:00and the son
16:01go right
16:02to live together.
16:03He leaves his wife
16:04before I arrive in Italy.
16:05before she arrives in Italy
16:07can I ask you?
16:09that doesn't seem offensive
16:10if she follows him
16:12in Italy
16:13just for love
16:14or to improve
16:15his situation too?
16:18But let's say both
16:19he was a person
16:21for how he presented himself
16:22a person
16:23Calm
16:23for good
16:25with brothers in the police
16:26so for me
16:27it was a reassurance
16:29not a danger.
16:32However she
16:32he's going to live
16:33in Fabio's house
16:35in Torriana
16:35which is a small municipality
16:37in the province of Rimini
16:40and she will have noticed
16:41right away
16:42or very soon
16:43that that house
16:43it was full of weapons
16:46as he justified
16:48with her
16:49Savi
16:49the fact that at home
16:50did he have an arsenal?
16:51He told me
16:52I have a gun license
16:53in Italy it's normal
16:55I have a passion
16:55for weapons
16:56he hadn't told her
16:58that he worked
16:59in the secret services?
17:01But
17:01if for that
17:02he told me
17:03many things
17:04but
17:05it was not understood
17:06at the start
17:07where was it
17:08the lie
17:09and where it began
17:11the truth.
17:12Listen, Fabio Savi
17:14officially did
17:15the truck driver
17:16the body shop
17:17he was the only one
17:18of the three brothers
17:20to have failed
17:21to join the police
17:22for let's say
17:22a defect
17:23in the view
17:24what he told her
17:25that he was sorry
17:27not having succeeded
17:28to enter
17:29in the police force?
17:33Yes
17:33She
17:34she
17:35of him
17:36he said
17:36he was a monster
17:38in love
17:3933 months of cohabitation
17:41I thought it was love
17:42a piece
17:43of my life
17:44spent next door
17:45to a monster
17:45a monster
17:46in love
17:47he was a monster
17:48in love
17:49I had
17:50too much way
17:51to get to know him better
17:52and I also say
17:53That
17:54he is the doctor
17:55Jack and the Mister
17:55Hyde
17:56because in its own way
17:57he loved me
17:58because if not
17:59he wouldn't have trusted
18:00to tell me
18:01many things
18:03She says
18:04Fabio didn't want to
18:05to attract attention
18:06of flashy
18:07I was already there
18:08tall, blonde and beautiful
18:10and alone
18:10I represented
18:11a danger
18:12a danger
18:13that despite
18:14jealousy
18:14increasingly oppressive
18:15by Fabio
18:16to Fabio
18:17I liked it a lot
18:17I was
18:18a trophy
18:20for him
18:20the beautiful girl
18:22conquered
18:23to show
18:25And he who was
18:26for her?
18:27It was the person
18:28that gave me
18:30a change
18:31to life
18:32what I did before
18:33a possibility
18:35in addition
18:36A change of life
18:37she says cheap
18:38pure
18:38social
18:39Coming from a lifetime
18:41where I didn't have
18:41not even to eat
18:42It was a lot
18:44It doesn't take much
18:45to make me
18:46the beautiful life
18:48Listen to that
18:48of the White Uno
18:49it's the story
18:50of a trail
18:51of blood
18:52seven years long
18:53in which they were
18:54accomplished
18:55a series
18:55impressive
18:57of robberies
18:58and murders
18:58in an escalation
19:00of terror
19:01in addition
19:02with a use
19:02totally
19:03disproportionate
19:04of weapons
19:04many in shape
19:06military
19:07like rifles
19:08assault
19:09explosives
19:09etc.
19:10the components
19:12of the band
19:12the three brothers
19:14they were shooting
19:15continuously
19:16and they killed
19:16continuously
19:17often also
19:17not only
19:18for the loot
19:19or for a loot
19:21miserable
19:21respect
19:22let's say
19:23then to the murders
19:23and what they did
19:24she
19:25for the first time
19:27becomes aware
19:28of the actions
19:28that they
19:29they had accomplished
19:30When
19:31and how
19:33Meaning what
19:34tell him about it
19:35Fabio
19:35for the first time
19:36or he understood it
19:38she
19:38but there is no moment
19:40specific
19:41it was a crescendo
19:42it was a crescendo
19:44who did it all himself
19:45in the sense
19:45he started it
19:46to tell me
19:47in small pieces
19:49the whole thing
19:50what he did
19:50Yes
19:51and the little pieces
19:51what were they?
19:53the actions
19:54but
19:54Meaning what
19:55why the small pieces
19:56knows
19:56Excuse me
19:57but I went to do
19:59a robbery
19:59he told him
20:00Meaning what
20:01I came to tell her everything
20:02practically
20:02he Fabio
20:03at a certain point
20:04No?
20:05Yes
20:05but what does it mean
20:06the little pieces?
20:07it doesn't tell a story
20:09complete
20:09gives hints
20:11when is it
20:12who said
20:13it's them
20:14let's say
20:14I am
20:16of the rabbis
20:17of this level
20:20when he
20:21he told me
20:21Meaning what
20:22he was the one who told me
20:23things
20:24and how did she react?
20:26me the first thing
20:26what I did
20:28I called
20:29the aslo bathroom place
20:30the Hungarian journalist
20:31it's not the first thing
20:33what he did
20:33let's say
20:35what did I do?
20:36No
20:37let's say
20:37the Hungarian journalist
20:39he called him further there
20:40he didn't call him right away
20:42I just realized
20:42No
20:43I just understood
20:43that they killed
20:44I called him
20:46and told him?
20:49that I am a witness
20:50get me out of here
20:51because if not
20:52they kill me too
20:53because he tells
20:54one more thing
20:55that is, she says that
20:55at a certain point
20:56much further there
20:59he called him
21:00and told him
21:00he made him understand
21:01that she was
21:02within
21:03let's say
21:04of a route
21:05of Eastern girls
21:06who made prostitutes
21:08and made him understand this
21:09but in fact
21:10when I say
21:10I called
21:11the Hungarian journalist
21:13I'm referring to this very thing
21:14I told him
21:15they will kill me too
21:17why did she stay
21:18with him
21:20even though he beat her
21:23even though it started
21:24to have doubts
21:25why did she stay
21:25and she didn't leave?
21:27in fact I ran away
21:28twice
21:29she ran away twice
21:30but it's always the same
21:31returned home
21:32Yes
21:32for the threats
21:33but she was gone
21:35it was right outside
21:37why did she come home?
21:38I ran away
21:39twice
21:40but I couldn't
21:41to go further
21:45Rimini
21:45and beyond Bologna
21:46because then
21:47I went back
21:49eh
21:49but she came back
21:52reason?
21:53eh
21:54fear
21:55that is, she out of fear
21:56she returned to her kitchen
21:57in her opinion
21:58a criminal
22:01of this
22:02weight
22:03weight
22:04when he comes to confess
22:06a person
22:06his crimes
22:07he lets him go
22:08like this for life
22:10of your choice
22:12she will represent
22:13forever
22:14a danger
22:15for that person
22:16a witness
22:16Certain
22:17will represent
22:18a witness
22:18forever
22:19and then
22:20there are other witnesses
22:22in life?
22:23I don't know of any
22:24and he said
22:25better go back to him
22:26better go back
22:27in the wolf's den
22:30for then
22:31to make discovered
22:32where is the wolf
22:34and everything else
22:35listen
22:36he confided in her
22:38Before
22:39or after
22:40criminal actions
22:42what was he doing?
22:43never before
22:44only after?
22:45but not even after
22:46after time
22:47after a while
22:48Yes
22:49sure though
22:50that if he confided in her
22:52he knew he could do it
22:54he trusted me completely
22:55I made sure
22:56that he trusted
22:57after when
22:58I'm back
22:59and I decided
23:01at the cost of my life
23:02to have them captured
23:04I did
23:05maybe even more
23:07to trust me
23:10she was so clever
23:12at 17?
23:14Meaning what
23:15he had a criminal in front of him
23:16that it's not that he was so naive
23:18but he was in love
23:20and so he knew
23:22manipulate it in turn?
23:24I didn't manipulate it
23:25and simply
23:29it came off me
23:31the heart from the brain
23:32I recited
23:34the woman in love
23:36to get to the point
23:39to be able to have
23:41as much information as possible
23:44to be able to do it later
23:46to identify
23:47have it identified
23:49from the agents
23:50and I could collaborate
23:52because I was aware
23:53also of the fact
23:54that the investigators
23:55they were still at ABC
23:56on the investigations
23:58that a woman
23:58in that situation
24:01stay to gather information
24:03at 17 years old
24:04as an illegal immigrant
24:05underage
24:06in Italy
24:08I understand what I want to tell you
24:09I can
24:10what other choice did I have?
24:11the choice
24:12I can understand
24:13that she was there
24:13he was afraid
24:14she felt threatened
24:16and he knew he was
24:17a witness
24:17but that she was able
24:19to act
24:20to receive information
24:21etc.
24:21Perhaps
24:22waiting for him to be captured
24:23the arrest
24:24for everyone
24:25for the prosecution
24:26for magistrates
24:27for the judges
24:28it's not thanks to her
24:29but now
24:31we're getting there now
24:32anyway that's his truth
24:33and of course
24:34we welcome you
24:35as such
24:36she at a certain point
24:38she was lucid
24:39and aware
24:40as she says
24:40he even recited
24:41on the fact
24:43That
24:43this man
24:44he wasn't just a robber
24:45he was a murderer
24:46a serial killer
24:47No?
24:49how did she do it?
24:50continue
24:52to sleep there
24:53and have breakfast with us?
24:56what else could I do?
24:59Why
25:00she
25:01him in a deposition
25:02he said
25:03but she doesn't tell
25:05I say
25:06I've never touched it
25:07I never hit her
25:08he tells
25:10he says he doesn't tell
25:12some warm croissants
25:13that I brought her in the morning
25:15Meaning what
25:15in the sense
25:16what I want to say
25:17you also had
25:19a peaceful life as a couple
25:21or never?
25:22Certain
25:22he is a man
25:23that in the evening
25:24he beats you
25:25and in the morning
25:26takes you
25:26a flower
25:28is it normal?
25:30not for me
25:30no of course not
25:32that is, he
25:33he only remembers
25:34when he took me
25:35a flower
25:35or breakfast
25:36but sometimes
25:38that I had
25:38black eyes
25:39and he pulled my hair out
25:41and the threats I received
25:42and how many times
25:43he pointed the gun at me
25:44he doesn't remember it
25:45he pointed the gun at me
25:46telling her he would kill her?
25:48that would have killed me
25:49I threw it into a ravine
25:50no one would have looked for me anyway
25:52because nobody knew about me in Italy
25:55listen
25:56in one of his departures
25:57which he told us about
25:58No?
26:00from his partner
26:01Fabio Savio
26:02one of those times
26:03who tried to leave
26:04and then she came back
26:06why it didn't work out
26:07that is, there are many ways
26:09to file a complaint
26:11No?
26:11many anonymous ways
26:14she because she didn't succeed
26:16to do it anonymously too
26:19without exposing yourself personally?
26:22how
26:23if they were in the police
26:25and Fabio always told me
26:27there are many of us
26:28it's a vast network
26:30services are also involved
26:33you wherever you go in the world
26:35I will find you
26:37and if I'm not there
26:38it will be someone else
26:40if you speak
26:41your life is over
26:43the loot from the robberies
26:45was
26:45of more than two billion lire
26:48No?
26:48and when
26:49the magistrate
26:50he questioned her
26:51and asked her
26:53where he
26:53Fabio Savi
26:54kept cash
26:56Obviously
26:56she answered
26:58at home
26:58in the safe
26:59and when he asked her
27:01if she had the keys
27:02of the safe
27:03he trusted
27:05I really think so
27:06but at least in this
27:08a bit
27:09she felt complicit
27:11that is, keep the keys
27:12of the safe
27:15it's an accomplice
27:16or am I wrong?
27:20not on crimes
27:21She certainly didn't commit the robberies
27:23but she knew
27:24where did that money come from?
27:26and what could he do?
27:29No
27:29but I want to say
27:29if he gave her the keys
27:31somehow
27:32even in spite of himself
27:33a little complicit
27:34was it or am I wrong?
27:35No
27:36that is, I don't see
27:37the connected
27:38between having the key
27:39of a safe
27:40with the complicity
27:41that is, we were living together
27:42I couldn't tell him
27:44no hello
27:45I'm going tomorrow
27:46and I'll report you
27:47no but give the keys
27:49I understand what I want to tell you
27:50that is, she knew
27:50that money
27:51where they came from
27:53somehow
27:54then we remove
27:55the word complicity
27:56a bit
27:57the second one
27:58or not?
28:00Not
28:03he says no
28:04I can't find it
28:04the connection
28:05between having the key
28:06of a safe
28:07and how to have
28:08the house keys
28:10In short
28:10listen
28:11when the magistrate
28:12he asked her
28:13if she had
28:14sent some money
28:15to help
28:16his family members
28:18or abroad
28:18No?
28:20his family members
28:21she availed herself
28:22of the faculty
28:22not to answer
28:23Can I ask you why?
28:26it was not relevant
28:27the question
28:29it was not relevant
28:30to what
28:30it was the object
28:33of my presence
28:34as a test
28:34which was the pillar
28:36this thing
28:37it also needs to be debunked
28:38because I read it
28:39from all sides
28:40that I sent
28:40money abroad
28:41in Hungary
28:43in Romania
28:43that I sent
28:45first
28:46It is not true
28:47but I say
28:48but Fabio
28:49then after a while
28:49there would not have been
28:50aware
28:51Meaning what
28:51in the end
28:52it must have been too
28:54in love
28:55but he wasn't stupid
28:55No
28:56No
28:58but she
28:5940 million
29:00he stole them from her
29:00from the safe
29:01I stole them
29:03Yes
29:04she managed to steal them
29:06and where did he put them?
29:06these 40 million
29:07when he stole it
29:08I handed it over to him
29:09to a friend
29:11that we had in common
29:13who knew
29:15No
29:15he didn't know
29:16What
29:16contained
29:17that package
29:18ah he told him
29:18keep them for me
29:19keep them for me
29:20but he didn't know
29:21the content
29:22Savi said
29:23I knew
29:24and I pretended
29:24not at all
29:25I knew
29:25that were missing
29:26some money
29:26it is possible
29:28I do not know
29:28can be
29:29but the fact
29:30he knows that I have been
29:31processed
29:31condemned
29:32and rehabilitated
29:33she stole them
29:35thinking about what use
29:37what could they be used for?
29:39for the escape
29:41to be able to save me
29:42in 2021
29:44Fabio Savi
29:44he wrote
29:45a letter
29:45addressed to her
29:46which has been published
29:47on the rest of the Carlino
29:49Eve
29:49you liked them
29:50the beautiful clothes
29:51the jewels
29:51the best perfumes
29:52the nice restaurants
29:53and that damned money
29:54that I brought home
29:57this is part
29:58Always
29:59of that propaganda
30:00media
30:01of having to
30:01discredit
30:02discredit
30:03destroy
30:04make me a person
30:07borderline
30:08when she stole
30:09those 40 million
30:10she says
30:10to save one's life
30:11No
30:12in case of escape
30:13to have
30:14to cover their escape
30:15Exactly
30:15Here you are
30:16a bit
30:17the thought
30:18That
30:18those 40 million
30:20of old lire
30:21there were above
30:22there was above
30:23the blood
30:24of so many people
30:25Why
30:25them during
30:27the end of the era
30:27they killed
30:28they killed
30:28with great ease
30:29and with great gratuity
30:31and the same thing
30:32he could do it
30:32with me
30:33yes yes
30:33he absolutely could
30:34do with her
30:35but he didn't do it
30:36No
30:36he didn't do it
30:37but in the meantime I
30:39I saved
30:39many other lives
30:40that they like
30:41we'll talk about it now
30:43even of the capture
30:44but sorry if this
30:44I'll tell him
30:45but she
30:48he spoke
30:49after the arrest
30:50No?
30:51if he had spoken
30:52maybe someone first
30:52was he also saved?
30:55but I
30:55I insist
30:56on the speech
30:57of the capture
30:57think
30:58she
30:58but that
30:59Unfortunately
30:59it's his truth
31:00Understood?
31:01Anyway
31:02in November 2021
31:03the circle around the brothers
31:05Savi
31:05it tightens
31:06No?
31:07she doesn't agree
31:09but for the truth
31:10official
31:10thanks to intuition
31:11of two policemen
31:12that I am
31:13Luciano Baglioni
31:13and Pietro Costanza
31:14two policemen
31:15provincial
31:16all in all
31:16Baglioni and Costanza
31:18they behave
31:19a bit
31:19how would they have done it
31:21the Savi brothers
31:22and that is
31:23what they do
31:23they choose
31:24of potentials
31:25goals
31:25of the banks
31:26near the highway
31:28with escape routes
31:29etc.
31:29and they begin
31:31to do
31:31of the inspections
31:32hoping
31:33that the rabbis
31:34that the Wise Men
31:35they behaved
31:36in the same way
31:37until actually
31:37they cross
31:38in front of a bank
31:40near Rimini
31:40Fabio Savi
31:41at the wheel
31:42just like one
31:43Fiat
31:44white
31:45No?
31:46white type
31:46Exactly
31:47with a license plate
31:48dirty with mud
31:49recognizable
31:50they become suspicious
31:51and they follow him
31:52they follow him
31:53up to Torriana
31:55and that one
31:55Obviously
31:56it's the turning point
31:57Why
31:58they rebuild
31:59they understand everything
32:00and arrest
32:01Roberto Savi
32:02at that point
32:03Fabio
32:05he understands
32:06why Roberto
32:07he didn't answer him anymore
32:08That
32:09he had noticed so much
32:10of having been stalked
32:11he finds out
32:13that Roberto
32:13he was arrested
32:14he makes them
32:16color
32:17black hair
32:18and you give yourselves
32:20on the run
32:20No?
32:20you stop
32:21in a service station
32:22that afflicts
32:23right on the border
32:25with Austria
32:26she says
32:27I don't feel like it
32:29I do not want
32:30I do not want
32:30follow you
32:31No?
32:31in this escape
32:32tell me
32:33where I go wrong
32:35a discussion begins
32:37among you
32:38is getting closer
32:39a patrol
32:40of the traffic police
32:41not even the police
32:42among other things
32:43Fabio is armed
32:44Therefore
32:45let's say
32:46could have
32:47shoot
32:47to these
32:49of the police
32:49as it already was
32:51happened
32:52and instead
32:53it doesn't happen
32:54it is delivered
32:56somehow
32:57it is delivered
32:58and it ends
32:59let's say
33:00the long trail
33:01of blood
33:01from the
33:02a white one
33:03I'm leaving her
33:04tell
33:04at this point
33:05It is not true
33:06that she
33:07he was on the border
33:07with him
33:08no no no
33:08we are talking
33:09of how they were
33:10identified
33:11it's an invention
33:12that have arrived
33:13to the identification
33:15by Savi Fabio
33:16following a type
33:17white
33:17with a dirty license plate
33:19which is a machine
33:20ghost
33:21that not
33:21it is not known
33:22from where
33:23it popped up
33:24that is, one thing
33:25all fake
33:26she says
33:29she anyway
33:30let's say
33:30he was on the way
33:31of escape
33:32with him
33:32until
33:33at the border
33:34with Austria
33:35Right
33:35Yes
33:37when yes
33:38but always
33:39because I
33:39I couldn't
33:40allow
33:41to tell him
33:42No
33:44anything
33:44he would have asked me
33:45he would have done it
33:46I would have done it
33:47why the fear
33:48when she got closer
33:50to the police
33:51he didn't shoot
33:52and let's say that
33:53Fabio Savi
33:54he always shot
33:55No
33:56Yes
33:58they also killed
33:59for free
34:01they killed
34:01two window cleaners
34:02they killed
34:03some Senegalese boys
34:05they killed
34:06even without loot
34:07I am trying to say
34:07Therefore
34:07he according to her
34:08why didn't he shoot
34:09to the policeman
34:11when she approached you
34:13to the patrol
34:13why didn't he shoot
34:15in her opinion
34:15Why
34:15that is, she will have thought
34:17now he's killing him
34:17No
34:18he killed everyone
34:18but I thought he could kill me
34:20to her too
34:21Obviously
34:21why didn't he shoot
34:22in her opinion
34:23it was now
34:25shaky
34:27it was shaky
34:29because the brother
34:30was
34:31I repeat
34:31stopped the day before
34:32he was alone
34:34he felt
34:36not entirely alone yet
34:38but
34:39I
34:40having told him
34:41I'm from here
34:42I'm not moving
34:43he felt
34:44let's say
34:45he felt it was over
34:46but
34:46at any time
34:48could have been triggered
34:49kill everyone
34:50because he was a person
34:51unpredictable
34:51listen what the first thing is
34:53what Fabio Savi says
34:54to the agents
34:55when it is delivered
34:57at that moment
34:58if he remembers it
35:00No
35:00I don't remember
35:01I honestly don't remember
35:02and remember what Fabio Savi
35:03he told her
35:04I did it for you
35:06he said
35:07I did it for you
35:09that he put on
35:09showing me the handcuffs
35:12she interviewed
35:13he said
35:13the thing that did to me
35:15more bad
35:16which was exactly
35:17an immense pain
35:18it was to report
35:19the person I loved
35:20because I Fabio Savi
35:21I loved him
35:22Yes
35:22It is true
35:24Meaning what
35:26report it
35:29it was really
35:33dramatic
35:33at that moment
35:34let's not forget
35:35that I was 19 years old
35:36Always
35:36I depended on him
35:39let's say in everything
35:40No
35:40I loved her
35:42until the end
35:43I loved the part
35:45good about him
35:46that Fabio that I knew
35:47in Hungary
35:48for which I followed
35:49in Italy
35:50but not Fabio
35:51the Fabio that I discovered
35:53to have inside the house
35:54in the body of the
35:55so when she says
35:56he had told us before
35:57no I was acting
35:58the part of that
35:59in love
36:00to gather information
36:02actually she
36:03in the end
36:03in the end
36:05when I decided
36:06now to put an end
36:07breast
36:07I wouldn't have gotten rid of it
36:10never
36:11I feel
36:11then at that point
36:12of course
36:14love
36:14he failed
36:15but she
36:16when there was
36:17a tear
36:18I Fabio
36:18because now
36:19the decision
36:19I had taken it
36:20I loved him
36:20oh well anyway
36:23interviewed
36:23by Franca Leosini
36:25great Franca Leosini
36:26Savi said
36:27that was felt
36:29pierced in the heart
36:30and on the back
36:32he was complaining
36:33actually
36:34of all that
36:35that she
36:35he said
36:36after the arrest
36:37saying that she
36:39somehow
36:40she was an opportunist
36:41but he felt betrayed
36:43but it's normal
36:44a normal attitude
36:46of a person
36:46who felt betrayed
36:48after having trusted me
36:51he felt betrayed
36:52and then
36:53he vented
36:54all his anger
36:55but even more
36:56Why
36:56he vented
36:58even a revenge
36:59about me
36:59listen in your opinion
37:01Why
37:01he had
37:02many opportunities
37:02as she said
37:03to kill her
37:04Yes
37:05because he was a witness
37:06and he knew
37:06why didn't he do it?
37:09because he loved me
37:10but he would have done it
37:11shortly thereafter
37:12because the brother
37:13he was asking him
37:14to take her out
37:15Roberto
37:16he asked her to do it out
37:17he told him
37:18or he heard it
37:19Fabio told me
37:20and I saw it too
37:22very hard fought
37:22at that point
37:24after the arrest
37:24she too
37:25they arrest him
37:26and they bring it
37:26in prison
37:27from Tolmezzo
37:28and from there
37:29it can be said
37:30which begins
37:31they stop me
37:31they stop her
37:32they take her there
37:33it can be said
37:33that from there
37:34begins his third life
37:35because she
37:36from now on
37:37it begins
37:37to collaborate
37:39and yet she
37:40he says
37:40it's always a bit
37:41heard
37:43mistreated
37:43from the State
37:44and by public opinion
37:46she expected
37:47another type
37:48of gratitude?
37:50but I didn't expect it
37:51no recognition
37:52actually
37:53but I don't expect
37:54neither
37:55which is covered up
37:56hidden
37:57what I did
37:58I came alone
37:59described as
38:00accomplice
38:01I should be ashamed
38:04I knew
38:05I didn't speak
38:06what alternative
38:07I had
38:08to save themselves
38:09if not to speak
38:10at that point
38:10to keep quiet
38:12but how did they do it?
38:13the wives
38:14my wives
38:15what did they do?
38:15but she
38:16I am trying to say
38:17she would have been charged
38:19Safe?
38:19tell me
38:20what could I be accused of?
38:21of complicity
38:22Anyway
38:23I was living with someone
38:24then the wives too
38:25they should have been charged
38:28so she says
38:29I didn't do it
38:29for opportunism
38:30I did it
38:31for justice
38:33but I don't see
38:35opportunism
38:35because I repeat
38:36if not I would be
38:37kept running away
38:39or if not
38:40I would have kept quiet
38:41I would have avoided myself
38:42believe me
38:43many things
38:44I saved
38:46of lives
38:47anyone can say
38:48whatever he wants
38:49about me
38:49but I inside
38:50my heart
38:51he saved them
38:51after the arrest
38:53they wouldn't have
38:54could no longer shoot
38:55so this
38:56it's a little more doubtful
38:59what we told each other
39:00Before
39:00if not now
39:00let's continue
39:01let's say like the day
39:02of the marmot
39:02he always repeats the same thing
39:03Therefore
39:03I'm not saying let's move on
39:05she instead
39:06some responsibility
39:07some mistakes
39:08if he recognizes it
39:09of having been
39:10too naive
39:11in 2015
39:12she writes
39:13to the association
39:14of the victims
39:14of the White Uno
39:16because it pleased her
39:18enter
39:19No?
39:20and says
39:20with your permission
39:21I would like to be part of it
39:22of the association
39:22of the victims
39:23as a survivor
39:24of a ferocious
39:25absurd
39:25and unforgettable story
39:27and the president
39:28of the victims
39:29then it was
39:30Rossanna Zecchi
39:30he answers her
39:31it's a request
39:32that doesn't stand up
39:33I don't know on what basis
39:35make a similar request
39:37and she
39:38let's say
39:38he surprised her
39:39this reaction
39:40didn't you expect it?
39:42absolutely
39:43it didn't surprise me
39:44I surrendered
39:46I count alone
39:46through awareness
39:48only a few years ago
39:50four years ago
39:51five years ago
39:54joining the dots
39:56I said
39:56no but then
39:57the association
39:58he doesn't know the truth
39:59the association
40:01welcomes the truth
40:02let's say
40:03another truth
40:04he was not told
40:05he was not told
40:08welcomes another truth
40:09compared to his
40:10that is, in the sense
40:10that his
40:11it is not proven
40:12this is what I mean
40:12so it's his truth
40:13but why don't they give it to me?
40:14the possibility
40:15to prove it?
40:16the PM
40:17Walter Giovannini
40:18he said
40:18referring to her
40:19silence is enough
40:21to respect the victims
40:22yes because
40:24it was so
40:25bases
40:26that is, so much so
40:28spread this thing
40:29over the years
40:30that I have to stay
40:31in silence
40:32but still
40:34the victims' relatives
40:35they want my silence
40:36because they ruin the decorum
40:38listen
40:39this maybe
40:40she doesn't like it
40:41I remember it
40:41however in the period
40:42following the arrest
40:43of the Savi brothers
40:44and at a certain point
40:45in his life
40:46the king of porn appears
40:48Richard Schicchi
40:49with which she snaps
40:50he does a service
40:52a few photos
40:53sexy
40:54and that she proposes
40:55really
40:55to make a porn movie
40:56and she says
40:57Schicchi
40:57he's the only one
40:58to open a door for me
41:00and offer me a job
41:0215 days of work
41:03compared to 200 million
41:04of lire
41:05sure she says
41:06the offer is tempting
41:07how to put
41:08a steak
41:09in front of a hungry dog
41:12she says
41:13Yes
41:14she anyway
41:15think about it for a bit
41:17No?
41:18he's thinking about doing it
41:19he says
41:21Yes
41:22and it exists
41:23because he says
41:24he thought
41:24I think any woman
41:25he would have thought about it
41:26in those conditions
41:28No
41:28in those conditions
41:29forgive me
41:30in those conditions
41:31where I was
41:32but precisely
41:33that's what instead
41:34it's a bit surprising
41:35why is she going out
41:36from a story
41:37dramatic
41:38that leaves on the ground
41:3824 deaths
41:39Yes
41:40and 114 injured
41:42she didn't come out of the affair
41:43I hadn't gotten over the whole thing yet
41:45I was still on trial
41:47in that period
41:48yes on trial
41:48Meaning what
41:48in the face of a massacre
41:51of the genre
41:52No?
41:52in which however she
41:53it was part of the postcard
41:55No?
41:56he was not an accomplice
41:57but it was part of the postcard
41:59even just because
42:00he knew him
42:00and lived there
42:01she was engaged
42:02from there
42:03the death sentence
42:04this is mine
42:05my sentence
42:08that will never be erased
42:10even morally
42:11that just because
42:12I was a partner
42:13with a multi-humidifier
42:14and this
42:15no but from there
42:16to say anything
42:16who wouldn't have thought of it?
42:18to make a porn movie
42:19let's say
42:19I didn't say
42:20in those conditions
42:21those conditions
42:22I didn't say
42:22I mean, I corrected myself
42:24I said
42:24in those conditions
42:26because she anyway
42:27he puts on little shows
42:28a bit
42:28if there are any images
42:30put on little shows
42:30you do services
42:31some erotic photos
42:32also published
42:33on Tilt
42:34on Penthouse
42:35In short
42:35he makes them
42:36Yes
42:37or
42:38that is, it is a crime
42:40no no no
42:41absolutely
42:42ninth
42:42he asks him
42:45I am accused
42:46almost everything
42:48no no no
42:48this is also
42:49to tell
42:50his character
42:51but there is a reason for everything
42:52but
42:53there is a reason for everything
42:54there is a reason for everything
42:55for money or because
42:56out of need
42:58to be able to pay me
42:59a defense
43:01lasted five years
43:02lasted five years
43:03where I was at risk
43:04years and years of prison
43:05the indictment
43:05Certain
43:06then in 2005
43:08she announces
43:09that it would have been
43:10the next contestant
43:11of reality
43:12the mole
43:12Yes
43:13and that he would have destined
43:15to relatives
43:16his fee
43:17the relatives immediately
43:17they responded
43:18you can get the money
43:19we don't want them
43:20in the end instead
43:21his participation
43:22will be cancelled
43:23it was his choice
43:24or Mediaset
43:25and the relatives of the victims
43:27who put pressure on
43:28on Mediaset
43:29for cancellation
43:30of the contact
43:30but we would have participated
43:32as a competitor
43:33so it's absolutely not
43:34a crime
43:34and she is a free woman
43:35he can do as he pleases
43:36as an attitude
43:38not because it's a crime
43:39it seemed respectful to her
43:41respect
43:42to families
43:43the 24 families
43:46of the victims
43:47let's say we saw
43:48Unfortunately
43:48the terrible story
43:50in which
43:50was involved
43:53At that time
43:53let's distinguish between the two things
43:55just to make it clear
43:56when I did
44:00the photographs
44:01I was at a moment
44:02that I
44:03I had to
44:04protect
44:04and defend
44:05from the processes
44:06when instead
44:07we are talking
44:08of the mole
44:09what happens
44:10a few years later
44:11when I'm done
44:12all my processes
44:13Well
44:14to the mole
44:15for me
44:16me in the meantime
44:17I refused
44:17many other broadcasts
44:19but the mole
44:19it seemed to me
44:20a broadcast
44:21a reality show
44:22where I
44:23within
44:24let's say
44:24of the house
44:25I don't remember now
44:25not even how well it worked
44:27but it's a reality show
44:27where you are
44:28in there
44:29together with the other competitors
44:30he could give me
44:31the possibility
44:32already at the time
44:33to be able to speak
44:35already of the capture
44:36because to me
44:38the truth about the capture
44:39I've always had it here
44:40yes but I can say
44:41Now
44:41then we go out
44:42but now
44:43objectively
44:44in the public
44:45of the mole
44:45in the other competitors
44:47of the mole
44:47she went there
44:49to talk about the capture
44:50because there are other means there
44:51she will have gone there
44:52because maybe a little
44:54she was attracted
44:55from the spotlight
44:56or not?
44:57what's also bad about it
44:58that is, I was
44:59in the end then
45:00private
45:02to participate
45:04and maybe be
45:06also a showgirl
45:08an artist
45:11that is, she
45:12she's a competitor
45:14by virtue
45:14of a tragic story
45:15who left
45:1624 families
45:17deprived
45:18of their loved ones
45:19so there's nothing wrong with that
45:21it's a thing
45:22but excuse me
45:23but
45:23that we can define
45:24inappropriate
45:25or not?
45:28Meaning what
45:28inappropriate too
45:29who invited her
45:30it's not just her
45:31inappropriate too
45:31who invited her
45:33Here you are
45:33because there is one that becomes
45:34but it's the same thing
45:35then you
45:35why he invited me
45:36this evening?
45:36to talk about his story
45:37to make it a competitor
45:38of a game
45:39I'm talking
45:40of its history
45:40with all the shadows
45:41and the lights
45:42more shadows
45:42Unfortunately
45:43the lights
45:45the story is that
45:46Unfortunately
45:47unfortunately the story is that
45:48to tell his story
45:49to participate in a game
45:50or am I wrong?
45:52it was a game
45:53that could allow me
45:54that didn't last
45:55half an hour
45:56or an hour
45:56of transmission
45:57that could allow me
45:59to speak
46:00to make myself known
46:01of that too
46:02that I really am
46:03which instead
46:04in half an hour
46:04of interview
46:05it doesn't cover
46:06it doesn't cover
46:07instead it was
46:07inside a house
46:08a reality show
46:09making a series
46:10of evidence
46:11of physical games
46:12she would have made it clear
46:14his truth
46:14but it's not that they do
46:15this only
46:16they know each other
46:17the people
46:19When
46:20they are inside
46:21a house
46:22for months
46:22it seems to me
46:23me at least
46:23I understood this
46:25anyway she
46:26then he gets married
46:27his life
46:29it goes on
46:30she
46:31succeeds
46:32from one point of view
46:33even private
46:34to move forward
46:36with his life
46:37sentimental
46:39he manages to free himself
46:40of that experience
46:41all that
46:42that was the story
46:42of the white one
46:43I left him
46:44behind my back
46:44and I turned
46:45the shoulders
46:46and I started
46:47to think
46:47to my life
46:49I had just
46:5121 years old
46:52very young
46:5322
46:53and how did it go afterwards?
46:55his life
46:55good or bad
46:57oh of experiences
46:58there have been some
46:59many
46:59even after
47:00holy thing would he want
47:02she has two children
47:02what would you like?
47:04that his children
47:06they said about her
47:09I have already received
47:11an answer
47:12Extremely beautiful
47:12from my son
47:13which is the biggest
47:15And
47:16he said
47:17Mom I'm proud of you
47:18to whom it is due
47:20she apologizes
47:22I'm waiting
47:23an apology
47:24and by whom
47:25awaits them
47:26from family members
47:27from family members
47:29of the victims
47:31but this
47:32not now
47:34When
47:35the truth
47:36on identification
47:37of the band
47:38it will be official
47:40I can
47:40allow me something
47:41which in my opinion
47:42the family members
47:42of the victims
47:43in general
47:44they don't have to ask
47:44sorry to no one at all
47:46but they insulted me
47:48for a lifetime
47:48they have
47:50but you think
47:51a bit
47:51to the situation
47:52of those who lost
47:53a son
47:5320 years old
47:54no but me too
47:55I could arrive
47:56to the point
47:56of no longer being there
47:58Why
47:59everyday
48:00for 30 years
48:01hear me say
48:01shame
48:02of shame
48:02of shame
48:03of shame
48:03it's an indigation
48:05to suicide
48:06what
48:06I immediately
48:07even in 30 years
48:08but not only
48:09from family members
48:10in the sense
48:11they gave
48:12voice
48:14to the public
48:15ridicule
48:16that I suffered
48:17in mine too
48:18daily
48:18of people
48:19that on the street
48:20they insulted me
48:21as a criminal
48:22as an accomplice
48:23and this
48:24it is engraved
48:25in mine too
48:25work sphere
48:26social
48:27and familiar
48:28and she thinks
48:30That
48:31let's say
48:32destiny
48:33you reserve it
48:33of happiness
48:34Still?
48:35it's still possible
48:36be happy
48:37for her?
48:39but I'm calm
48:40and I'm already
48:41satisfied
48:42of my serenity
48:44Thank you
48:49Thank you
48:50Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
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