Hotel Rigopiano, le testimonianze e la cronaca dei soccorsi. Collegamenti e ospiti in studio. Speciale Tg1 del 20 Gennaio 2017
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00:01:34Well, this day had begun frankly with little hope and instead there is the certainty that ten people are alive,
00:01:45five were extracted as we said from the snow and from what remains of the Rigopiano hotel,
00:01:54five more are waiting to be taken out, so a day that had moments of excitement but also
00:02:08moments of reflection because there is no certain news of approximately twenty other people.
00:02:16At this moment it is digging naturally as you can imagine with the night, with the cold, with everything that
00:02:27it is necessary to put in place to avoid putting at risk the lives of those still under the snow and
00:02:33rubble, a thousand more precautions are needed.
00:02:38We will follow what is happening but I would also say to reflect on the other great event that is happening today and
00:02:50We'll talk about it later, the 45th president of the United States, Donald Trump, is entering the House right now
00:02:59Bianca, is physically taking possession of it.
00:03:03So Obama is an ex, Donald Trump is the new president of the United States in a context of controversy, we
00:03:11There were demonstrations in Washington and even a hundred arrests, but we'll talk about that later.
00:03:19I'd say we go straight away to Alessio Zucchini for the latest news.
00:03:30It was a very intense day, a day with a double meaning, on one hand the satisfaction of the rescuers who
00:03:37They meet here in the Penne sports hall where the rescue operations are coordinated.
00:03:44Rescue efforts were coordinated because Maria Silvia had to go.
00:03:49I hear a strange feedback in the audio, can you hear me?
00:03:53Let's continue, let's say it was a complicated and very intense day because you saw that with the blanket other children were saved,
00:04:01two of those we saw being pulled out of the avalanche, from the rubble of the hotel.
00:04:05We are here with one of those men who pulled them out, who was there with the firefighters.
00:04:09fire that are still digging under the rubble.
00:04:13They'll do it all night, they'll do it without looking at the clock, without looking at the shifts because this is a
00:04:19a bit of the philosophy of the firefighters.
00:04:21Whoever starts a turn of this kind must finish it, must complete it.
00:04:25We were saying that on that mountain today there were also men from the Guardia di Finanza extracting those children,
00:04:31'It was also Lorenzo Gagliardi of the mountain rescue of the Guardia di Finanza of Roccaraso.
00:04:36So what was the thrill of bringing those kids out?
00:04:40A huge emotion that repays us for all the work and sacrifices we have been making since yesterday morning at 4am,
00:04:47so it's already huge.
00:04:49When you save someone's life, it's the most rewarding thing you can do, so we really did a good job.
00:04:58We've been telling you about it these days, you were among the first to arrive together with the mountain rescue men
00:05:03who shot us those images you saw at the beginning.
00:05:07Arriving on skis after 7 kilometers, hours of walking in the dark, in the storm, you arrived because you didn't
00:05:14we could have moved forward with the means.
00:05:16Yes, we saw that the roads were blocked, we couldn't proceed with the vehicles and so we decided that
00:05:21the only way to get there as soon as possible is to go on skis.
00:05:26Rightly so in these cases time is also the determining factor because the sooner you arrive the more hope you have.
00:05:33to find people, especially with snow being a determining factor.
00:05:38What did those children say to you when you took them out, their first words?
00:05:41The last child, Gabriele, the last one drawn, the first thing he said he said but I was playing billiards,
00:05:49How long have I been here?
00:05:51So he had also lost the condition of time, but he was still conscious so it made us happy to see him respond,
00:05:58what's your name, all our questions and we were all very happy.
00:06:02There are still 5 alive down there identified, what do you do in these moments, how do you talk, how do you
00:06:09do these people support?
00:06:10Yes, they are under an attic, so it is the firefighters who are underneath, they have contact with them and they are
00:06:16clearing the access routes to be able to get there and provide assistance.
00:06:20So they hold back, they are encouraged to tell them we will arrive soon and they confidently await the arrival of our rescuers.
00:06:34Firefighters who are doing an enormous, incredible job, who are entering step by step, shoring up the hotel structures.
00:06:42and then they go ahead, pull the people out, and then go back safely.
00:06:47To you.
00:06:48Thank you, thank you Alessio Zucchini, we saw how much emotion in the last images that arrived from Abruzzo, but this is
00:06:58It was a long day, as Maria Silvia Santilli tells us in this report.
00:07:16Applause, enthusiasm, the emotion is uncontainable. Eight-year-old Gianfilippo made it, saved by firefighters.
00:07:24who support him, caress him, reassure him and pull him out of that hell of snow, ice and debris that
00:07:31He trapped him for more than 40 hours.
00:07:36The child is the son of Giampiero Parete, the surviving guest who first raised the alarm.
00:07:45Shortly after, the firefighters also manage to pull out the baby's mother, who is also safe, holding
00:07:52the hands of the rescuers but immediately turns, makes a gesture, indicates that hole in the snow, it's there and
00:07:58there he says go and get her, there is Ludovica, his other daughter.
00:08:06The little girl was also rescued after a few hours, along with two other children.
00:08:14It's just after 5pm, the rescuers manage to free them, they hug them, wrap them in blankets, protect them from the
00:08:22frost and fear.
00:08:25They were in the billiard room playing when the avalanche hit the hotel and they found them there.
00:08:32Overjoyed to see the rescuers, they were then immediately accompanied into the ambulance and held in the arms of those who
00:08:39Their lives were saved and they were transferred to the Pescara hospital in fair condition.
00:08:45I want my cookies, says Ludovica, on the phone with a friend of her dad's.
00:08:51Also saved were Domenico, the 41-year-old policeman from Ocimo, his wife Marina and their 7-year-old son, and
00:08:59the family of Loreto Aprutino, Sebastiano with his wife Nadia and his son Edoardo.
00:09:06The survivors, the first to be identified, had taken refuge in the hotel bar, protected by an air pocket formed underneath
00:09:14the collapsed attic.
00:09:18The rescuers were also guided by the smoke coming out, perhaps a burning fire, and so they found a spot
00:09:25where the snow was softer and here they were able to dig and open a boat.
00:09:31As soon as they saw us, they were so surprised and shocked that they couldn't even speak, the firefighters say.
00:09:38An unexpected rescue, after the fury of that avalanche that seemed to have buried all hope.
00:09:49Here, there was intense work that never stopped by the rescue teams.
00:09:58Our Enrica Maio, who is now at the municipal operations center of Penne, has followed this incessant work
00:10:08which has been done for almost three days now.
00:10:12Enrica Maio.
00:10:17Here the night is practically the same as the day, nothing changes because the rescuers continue to work incessantly,
00:10:27to dig for other people, hoping that what already happened today will happen.
00:10:34The firefighters have been on the move and working for almost three days, they have never stopped.
00:10:41Here there is a back and forth of vehicles, not only of the firefighters, but above all of these men.
00:10:50Here at my side is the fire brigade spokesman, Luca Cari.
00:10:54So, what's the situation? Apparently it's snowing right now, right? And they're still going.
00:11:00Yes, it's been snowing for a while, a few hours now, obviously we are continuing our rescue operations, we have
00:11:07five identified people with whom we are talking, we are trying to reach, so we have a very important goal, so we do not
00:11:16We will absolutely stop until we reach, until we have brought these people to safety.
00:11:24This was a tough, difficult but also beautiful day because so many children and adults were rescued alive. We can
00:11:34still hoping that the same thing will happen in the next few days, tomorrow?
00:11:38Yes, first of all a day from this point of view, obviously despite the drama, an exceptional day, we saved four children who are
00:11:46something that obviously gives us an emotional boost, a strength, the teams are working, the same rescuers, the same
00:11:53firefighters who saved the children and have not stopped working yet, are all still under the
00:11:58rubble to try to save five others, obviously the hope is that other people will be found alive as well.
00:12:04Are the means the same or do the methods and modalities change as you progress?
00:12:10No, the method is the same, it is tested, it is studied, we are using 40 firefighters because this is
00:12:18the number we need exactly, 40 firefighters trained for this type of activity, they are user teams so
00:12:25they know how to enter, how to penetrate inside the rubble, they advance by shoring up, making the paths safe
00:12:32because the person we need to save must also emerge from that same path.
00:12:37This morning we followed a rescue convoy just as the news arrived that there were people
00:12:44extracted alive, see this service.
00:12:54The rescue services, the Carabinieri, the ambulances, the civil protection continue to arrive since it was known that the fire brigade
00:13:03They found survivors from the fire, there are helicopters in operation, we were blocked here, we can't go any further,
00:13:11We are 15-20 km from the Rigopiano Hotel.
00:13:18Flavio, 20 years old, had been hired at the Rigopiano hotel as a maintenance man, the fever kept him at home, it was
00:13:24his salvation.
00:13:25Luckily, on Sunday night, you could say luckily I was ill, I couldn't go up afterwards because
00:13:34the snow, it just came in.
00:13:37How long have you been able to do this?
00:13:38I August, yes, from August, it was five months.
00:13:46So are all your colleagues there?
00:13:51Yes, everyone, I know everyone, the owner, unfortunately that's how it went.
00:14:01Claudio also worked at the Rigopiano hotel and is the uncle of Fabio Salsetta, the survivor who returned to help
00:14:08the rescuers.
00:14:08I've been working on it, I've been working since Alberto was born in practice and I know, let's say, life and apple all together.
00:14:15places where you can dig.
00:14:17In fact, now my nephew is back, he came back up to tell us where they have to dig and they are finding some people.
00:14:25Is this your nephew?
00:14:25Yes, my nephew is a warrior, he is a warrior, he came back up again, he saved himself, he is
00:14:32I went back down, because my sister is also up there, she stayed up there.
00:14:35If my nephew is back, it is, now they are finding some people, it makes me think that it is him, with the police
00:14:41of the Fire has risen, it makes me think that it is a burden from him.
00:14:45Are the firefighters still looking for Claudio's two nephews?
00:14:47Linda, it's Linda, my nephew is another nephew of mine, Alessandro, he's up there too.
00:14:54He is too...
00:14:56Yes, it's a kiosk right next to the hotel, right?
00:15:02Yes, 200 meters further on, we are waiting like everyone else for news, from those who work there to those who have been there
00:15:10on vacation.
00:15:11So he knows them all, do you know them all?
00:15:14Yes, very well, because on Enrico Piano we were like a family, from those who worked there to those who actually came on holiday,
00:15:21he felt at ease with them.
00:15:23So it was a structure that provided jobs for a lot of local people, right?
00:15:27Especially to the locals, to all the young kids, to all the local kids, absolutely.
00:15:33So Linda, Alessandro, the others, Fabio?
00:15:37All friends.
00:15:37All friends?
00:15:38Yes.
00:15:41Here, and we must not forget that the situation is delicate not only in Farindola, but in many other places in the
00:15:52'Abruzzo, Lazio, Marche,
00:15:54because the bad weather affected the four regions, which are also the regions of the earthquake.
00:16:01So, let's go and listen to Valentina Bisti-Darieti, who gives the overall picture of what happened in this long
00:16:12today.
00:16:13Valentina.
00:16:15It was well said, a very long day, complicated, we work non-stop, 135 men at work, 25 vehicles, we are talking
00:16:26obviously about the situation of the Rigopiano hotel.
00:16:29It's going on all night, so in the meantime can you give us an updated figure of the people who have been extracted?
00:16:36Are the people they are trying to extract from the rubble of the hotel alive and safe right now?
00:16:42Yes, there were five people alive, five people and we are currently looking for five more people and
00:16:50We must also remember the two people who were saved during the night of the arrival of the first aid.
00:16:56This is the updated situation, we continue to work as she said.
00:16:59How do we continue working? What operations are being carried out now, in the dark, therefore in a situation
00:17:04even more complex?
00:17:05Well, the possibility of illuminating the emergency scene with electrical photos has been set up anyway, now it is
00:17:13studying a different path to be able to extract the people who were identified through a further path, because it was not
00:17:21possible to access from what was previously identified.
00:17:25Here, why am I here today? How did the access take place? We saw from the images a sort of deeply dug tunnel.
00:17:32Yes, an access was found to the area where the people had been identified, by accessing a tunnel that was
00:17:38was identified within the scope of studying the structure of the building.
00:17:45Certainly, however, speaking with colleagues who are intervening on site, it is certainly a very difficult and very complicated intervention,
00:17:53because it is clearly made difficult both by the fact that part of the building has collapsed and by the presence of snow
00:18:00and therefore of the cold.
00:18:01So these are certainly very difficult conditions, but we have specialized operators who intervene, as you have seen, without reserve.
00:18:10Absolutely. Here at Dicomac, obviously, all the emergencies of these days are treated, and we are talking about four regions that are
00:18:22They were hit by the earthquake and bad weather, so there are many emergencies to deal with.
00:18:27Let's start with the road system, I know that as far as rescue is concerned.
00:18:33Yes, basically the main roads, so the main state roads and main arteries have been reopened, they remain closed to traffic.
00:18:42a couple of state roads and the main one, also the one that concerns the main connecting axis, which is the Salaria,
00:18:48State Road 4 is open to private vehicles.
00:18:53For the rest, we have no critical issues on this front.
00:18:56What about fractions?
00:18:58There are still major critical issues in the hamlets because just to give an example, some municipalities in Terramano have for example 39
00:19:08-40 hamlets that are spread over a very large territory.
00:19:11So in this case today, thanks also to the possibility of flying, we intervened with countless rescue operations.
00:19:17aircraft, with the possibility of having 26 aircraft available and we also carried out rescue operations with the contribution of the teams
00:19:27specialized Alpine rescue, Fire Brigade, Guardia di Finanza who arrived in numerous hamlets with vehicles
00:19:33special.
00:19:34Last question, has any progress been made on utilities?
00:19:38Absolutely yes, as far as utilities are concerned, in the Marche region we have essentially reached almost zero utilities, we have reached
00:19:44about thousands of power supply designs, while in Abruzzo we are at about 45 thousand which however have practically
00:19:51halved what was the power draw at the beginning of this day.
00:19:55Here Paolo, if you have no further questions, can I give you back the line?
00:19:58Thank you, thank you Valentina. Well, we have to imagine how much anguish the family members, friends, and relatives of those whose lives are still being lost are feeling.
00:20:14the fate is unknown.
00:20:16Well, it was a particularly difficult day at the hospital in Pescara, we are connecting with Perla di Poppa who
00:20:25he was able to see both the images of joy when the children arrived, especially those who had escaped, but also the anger,
00:20:35the dismay of relatives who wait without news.
00:20:41Yes, you see, I am in the company of a guest who is Dr. Moreno di Pietrantonio, psychologist and psychotherapist.
00:20:49here at the hospital in Pescara, because you were saying it here, it was an emotionally very hard day here at the hospital, but
00:20:57Let's start with the latest news, the three children who arrived in the evening were transported here by helicopter, so all four children
00:21:06They were extracted alive and are well.
00:21:09Doctor, have you seen them? How are the children?
00:21:11The children are in excellent condition fortunately, they are well, so on this data we have all gained a great deal
00:21:22enthusiasm, the mood has changed compared to yesterday when we were in a really great state of appreciation, today things
00:21:30they are changing, lots of good news is coming,
00:21:33The images we have just seen truly warm the hearts of all of us, but I believe of all the Italian people,
00:21:40because after all, seeing those things really does you good.
00:21:43Look, these children, even adults, have experienced a very strong trauma, what can we do? Can you help us?
00:21:49How can a psychologist explain how to overcome this kind of trauma?
00:21:53Yes, in short, he finds himself in the condition that we call post-traumatic stress syndrome, in short, there are
00:22:01of the techniques, there is a team of psychologists who are continuously assisting both families,
00:22:06he is praying for a positive, constructive relationship with them, who are above all somewhat rightly hungry for news, because they want
00:22:16understand how your loved ones are doing,
00:22:19especially those who still have a clear destiny today, because we don't know it.
00:22:28Many others are already well and so support is needed now, after the shock phase there is
00:22:34need psychological support and in short there is already the whole organization to support both the children and the
00:22:42adults who have suffered this serious situation.
00:22:45These are those particular situations of great disasters, in short, that we know well, there is a need for a
00:22:52reworking of this experienced situation,
00:22:55which is the above all traumatic situation determined by those conditions in which one is personally threatened with death or the
00:23:03there is a threat to your loved ones and you are unable to do anything.
00:23:08It is a very particular condition, very serious, but fortunately it can then be worked through and then things can resume.
00:23:16course of life in a normal way.
00:23:18Here, even the relatives, as we were saying, are assisted by a team of psychologists, the mood is mixed.
00:23:25We saw people hugging each other, celebrating, full of joy because they had learned that one of their relatives had been found.
00:23:35live
00:23:36and then we saw faces marked by desperation, this anguish this afternoon also resulted in a sort of protest.
00:23:44Some of the family members burst in during the press briefing, the medical bulletin to say we feel abandoned.
00:23:52Their agitation and state of mind are also understandable because they want to know if they can continue to hope for
00:23:59their relatives.
00:24:00So let's see how this day went in the service, then we'll go back to the studio.
00:24:12Simona has just learned that her 10 year old nephew is alive, shortly after they will tell her that
00:24:16He will also be able to hug his brother Sebastiano Di Carlo and his wife Nadia again.
00:24:20They were found in what remains of the hotel lobby, they are safe.
00:24:24Spectacular, they are exceptional, my brother and sister-in-law are brilliant people.
00:24:29Has this weekend been a dream of theirs for a long time?
00:24:31Yes, they are workers and I think they suddenly decided to go to the mountains and do two days of
00:24:39Relax.
00:24:41Have you never given up hope?
00:24:43No, never. Even though I had moments of dark discouragement, I never passed them on to my grandchildren, to my
00:24:50my brother's older children.
00:24:53And there you have to be strong.
00:24:54It is here at the hospital in Pescara that the wounded are transported and here that Giampiero Parete, the survivor who
00:25:00After raising the alarm, he found his wife and 7-year-old son.
00:25:04That both are in good condition, a slight hypothermia but nothing more.
00:25:10They were a little dehydrated, we are doing the necessary therapies, the tests, they are being monitored but the situation is calm.
00:25:19But while the medical bulletin is being released for the press, the anger of the relatives who have been waiting for hours explodes
00:25:25of news.
00:25:29We've been waiting for news for 50 hours.
00:25:32They abandoned us, they abandoned us underneath for 50 hours.
00:25:35And it is here in the hospital's main hall that the relatives are assisted with the support of the Red Cross psychologists,
00:25:42too much news, often conflicting, has been pouring in all day, and we are trying to keep them away from it.
00:25:48Other people don't have certain information, so we prefer not to give it when we're not sure.
00:25:55These are difficult times and it couldn't be otherwise.
00:25:59Joining us in the studio, good evening, is Ermete Realacce, president of the Chamber of Deputies' Environment and Territory Committee.
00:26:07Good evening.
00:26:08Good evening to Antonio Piersanti, seismologist at the Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology.
00:26:13Good evening to General Sergio Santamaria who has been coordinating the military task force in the earthquake zones since August,
00:26:23since this terrible seismic sequence unfortunately began.
00:26:28Good evening to Carmine Lizza, national head of civil protection at ANPAS,
00:26:34which is one of the most important voluntary associations in the area.
00:26:41I would like to ask Antonio Piersanti immediately, if you allow me, to confirm what they said.
00:26:50both to the Civil Protection and to the Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology, regarding this sequence of shocks
00:27:01which is said should not be over.
00:27:05No, unfortunately I can only confirm it.
00:27:08The seismic sequence that began on August 24, which has never ended, let us never forget,
00:27:15it was no longer on the front pages of the newspapers, but from August 24th until today we have always
00:27:20registered
00:27:21at least 100 earthquakes a day.
00:27:23This sequence was strongly reactivated with the 4 shocks of magnitude greater than 5 two days ago,
00:27:29of January 18th.
00:27:30Since then the number of earthquakes has increased again, now we are between 400 and 500 a day.
00:27:36and of course the sequence is not finished.
00:27:39We know for certain that the tremors will continue in the next few days.
00:27:42What we unfortunately don't know is whether only small tremors will continue as happened yesterday and today
00:27:48or if there will be other big ones too.
00:27:51General Santa Maria, your presence is ever-increasing. What are your current numbers?
00:28:01Before the snow emergency we were approximately 2,400 men strong.
00:28:12The vast majority are clearly from the army but there were also other components of the other armed forces.
00:28:19Then with the earthquake requirement, within 12 hours with the snow requirement
00:28:24We have now reached over 3,000 men inside the crater.
00:28:28Do you say that she coordinates everything that is stars, that is uniforms?
00:28:35Of course, the whole defense part, the Defense General Staff preferred to give a unity of command
00:28:43and so a command was created in Rieti that interfaces with DICOMAT
00:28:49therefore we are always an operational structure within the civil protection system
00:28:54and then we talk with the civil protection and then from within, from my command
00:28:59orders are sent out to all four regions, across the entire crater.
00:29:03But you are part of the large civil protection organization in this case.
00:29:08Absolutely, we are one of several operational organizations, operational structures.
00:29:13of the country's civil protection system.
00:29:17Work is being done at the hotel right now, and your men are there too.
00:29:24What are the main critical issues in a situation of night, cold and danger of other avalanches?
00:29:37We are clearly working under extreme conditions.
00:29:42At the moment we have three teams of Alpine rescuers at the hotel, from the ninth Alpine regiment of L'Aquila, from the army
00:29:49which are operating alongside the other structures.
00:29:55It is clear that the temperature, the need to proceed with caution because we are in the presence of structures
00:30:04which are severely damaged and therefore when these tunnels are made, when these activities are carried out
00:30:10we must proceed calmly, securing and being able to create these safe passages
00:30:16to then go and recover the people and have them transit through routes that will not cause worse damage.
00:30:24And then we're also working on all the coordination and help and support for these rescuers.
00:30:32I'll just give you an example: an air traffic control facility is now being built there.
00:30:40because you can imagine how many helicopters are coming and going in that area.
00:30:43And then we are going to the control towers that help, they are field control towers
00:30:49who will control air traffic, help regulate landings a little,
00:30:54the entrances to the area and so on.
00:30:57Here, before entering into the chapter that exists, which is the one about the royal controversies,
00:31:04I would like to continue, if you allow me, with the news.
00:31:09because the mayor of Campotosto, one of the towns affected by both the bad weather and the earthquake
00:31:18has raised the alarm for a landslide that is affecting the hamlet of Ortolano.
00:31:25So, connected to us from Preturo there is Grazia, Grazia Dei,
00:31:29to whom I would like to ask how things are going on that front.
00:31:37Yes, on that side here in the L'Aquila area the situation is truly complex.
00:31:43You said from the studio, just today this alarm was raised by the mayor of Campotosto
00:31:48and we went, we entered this country that until a few hours ago was practically unreachable
00:31:54and it was confirmed to us, so we spoke with a municipal councilor of Campotosto,
00:32:01he told us that there is a landslide underway that is affecting Ortolano itself.
00:32:08We remember that there was an avalanche there on Wednesday, an avalanche that swept away a house,
00:32:16Today we also went to this very hamlet, in the avalanche area
00:32:20and this avalanche swept away the house, it swept away the life of a 73-year-old.
00:32:25And so after this avalanche, on Wednesday, now they've told us, there's a landslide going on in the village.
00:32:33In fact, there we spoke with people who know the area very well,
00:32:37They were born right there and according to some, the movement of a part of the ridge is visible even to the naked eye.
00:32:48One thing is certain, you will surely also talk about it in the study regarding the geological aspect.
00:32:55As long as there is snow, they explained to us, it is difficult to see if there are fractures along the slope,
00:33:01along a mountain. As the snow melts in one area, the risk of avalanches may increase,
00:33:07but there it will be possible to better understand and monitor what is happening on a mountain slope.
00:33:16Furthermore, the situation is complex not only in the L'Aquila area, but also in the Chieti area,
00:33:21because in Lama dei Peligni, a town in the province of Chieti,
00:33:24Some houses were also evacuated there, 32 people were taken away to hotels
00:33:31or at the homes of relatives and friends, precisely because of the danger of an avalanche.
00:33:36In short, now the emergency, beyond the tremors, beyond the snow,
00:33:40it is precisely represented by the risk of landslides, avalanches and avalanches
00:33:45in an area that has already been severely damaged and has already suffered a great deal.
00:33:51Thank you, thank you, thank you Gods.
00:33:56So, Realacci, I would like to dutifully open the page of what has not been done,
00:34:05if I may, simply asking Carmine Lizza,
00:34:08but it is true that we must discuss the fact that that hotel, the Rigopiano,
00:34:16wasn't it supposed to be built where it was built?
00:34:20So, let's say, the location of that structure is not in a happy place,
00:34:26it is the mouth of a fairly evident and quite important valley
00:34:31which has a remarkable energy, there are over 600 meters of altitude difference.
00:34:37Moreover, it is located on a plateau, on a slight hill,
00:34:43which is the result of several debris flows that have occurred over the years,
00:34:48of the centuries, and most likely also following other avalanches.
00:34:53That is an area, the one exposed, let's say, to the East,
00:34:58from the eastern area of ​​the Gran Sasso massif,
00:35:01which often receives large quantities of snow,
00:35:04in particular conditions like those that have just occurred.
00:35:08So that's an area that had already been marked,
00:35:10you can see it from the debris that is there,
00:35:11from alluvial fan flows, they are called.
00:35:14So it's debris that comes down the mountain and gets channeled.
00:35:19So that's a conoid area
00:35:21which in some way already highlighted the act of construction,
00:35:25which however happened several years ago,
00:35:27and the restructuring that took place,
00:35:29highlighted an area of ​​attention.
00:35:32The real problem is that we often need to start thinking
00:35:36in prevention on these things.
00:35:38So we should also start saying
00:35:41what the boundary limits might be.
00:35:44That is, according to the law, when we go to make a geological report,
00:35:48for example, we need to look at the entire range.
00:35:51So we don't just have to look
00:35:53what are the geotechnical characteristics of the foundation soil,
00:35:56but we have to give an opinion, an expert judgment
00:35:58on the boundary conditions,
00:36:00which may be of normal condition
00:36:02or of extraordinary condition.
00:36:04Sometimes, in construction and design,
00:36:07you also have to close a paper
00:36:10saying that the area is probably not suitable
00:36:12to the type of intervention the project is for.
00:36:15Thank you, Realacci.
00:36:17So, we always come back to the same point.
00:36:21Was what should have been done before not done carefully?
00:36:27But in this specific case, I'm honestly not capable of doing so.
00:36:31No, let's talk more generally.
00:36:32There was also a trial for abuse
00:36:35which ended with a full solution
00:36:37which concerned the fitness area of ​​that hotel.
00:36:45I think those people should have left earlier,
00:36:48but it's a thought,
00:36:50the moment he knows there is such a heavy snowfall,
00:36:54nature must be respected, in short.
00:36:56Here, all the alarms were there,
00:36:58it probably shouldn't have been kept until the last minute
00:37:01people in those conditions.
00:37:03Also because then, when these widespread phenomena arrive,
00:37:06It's very complicated for one to cover everything.
00:37:09The effort being made there now is enormous.
00:37:12I think there are 8,000 people in total.
00:37:15of civil protection mobilized from all over Italy
00:37:18and I really want,
00:37:20I think all of Italy is now grateful to these people
00:37:24that even in the conditions we see are saving lives.
00:37:27I also saw the pride that there is around this Italian thing.
00:37:30I saw my parliamentary colleague,
00:37:32one of the people who is working there,
00:37:34he is one of Vogugna,
00:37:35which is a small Piedmontese village.
00:37:37There is great pride in this Italy that does this.
00:37:41The problem is that we should all have more responsibility.
00:37:44Here, it is said that Italy is heroic in the emergency,
00:37:47It's like sonic but not in prevention.
00:37:49That's how it is, that's how it is.
00:37:49And sometimes even information should be a little more measured.
00:37:53I saw it on TV the other day,
00:37:55I don't even remember the network anymore,
00:37:56because one was looking for news,
00:37:59a journalist who was a pain in the ass
00:38:01to a gentleman who was shoveling
00:38:03to free his car from the snow by saying
00:38:06there, he was left alone, etc.
00:38:08But free the car from the snow,
00:38:11now for goodness sake,
00:38:12I come from a small village
00:38:13that when it snowed
00:38:15It's something that is difficult for the military to do.
00:38:20I don't know how to say it.
00:38:21So you have to understand the limits
00:38:23that nature places before us in some passages.
00:38:25The key point
00:38:26here is A, a problem of planning these events,
00:38:32avalanches, snow plowing, etc.
00:38:34If there are problems, they need to be solved.
00:38:37B, above all, compared to what was said before,
00:38:40the issue of earthquake prevention.
00:38:42That's a problem we can no longer avoid.
00:38:45And if there were any problems in managing emergencies,
00:38:49let's try to solve it.
00:38:50There were, in my opinion, problems.
00:38:52The problems are not related to generosity
00:38:55and the efficiency of civil protection.
00:38:56Italian Civil Protection...
00:38:57We'll talk about this shortly,
00:38:59because there is a proper tribute to be paid
00:39:02to those who are spending without limits right now.
00:39:06If I can say one thing,
00:39:06I understand very well that information must do its job,
00:39:09now is a time when that is done.
00:39:11But, let's say, this prevention game, right?
00:39:15On which we all agree at this time,
00:39:18then it's always the least of the problems
00:39:20when it is decided to tackle it.
00:39:22Why earthquake prevention,
00:39:24after every earthquake,
00:39:25It's at the top of the discussions.
00:39:29Then, when it comes to discussing the budget laws,
00:39:32this year was an exception,
00:39:34why a measure was introduced,
00:39:35the earthquake bonus, very important.
00:39:37But if we don't start from there,
00:39:39then unfortunately, as we know,
00:39:42Earthquakes in Italy are difficult to predict, aren't they?
00:39:45Certainly.
00:39:46A direct question to Piersanti.
00:39:49Is earthquake prevention expensive?
00:39:52There's something to put on...
00:39:54I will answer shortly and very quickly.
00:39:57It certainly doesn't cost particularly little.
00:40:01However, these are certainly also affordable figures,
00:40:04finding the right ways of, so to speak,
00:40:07integrate public funding,
00:40:09with then also private initiative,
00:40:11which inevitably must be involved
00:40:14in a work which, in its entirety,
00:40:17it is truly far-reaching.
00:40:19But I can say one thing now,
00:40:20because citizens may not even know it,
00:40:23now there is an 85% tax credit
00:40:26for those who make their home earthquake-proof.
00:40:30That is, 85% of the expenses are reimbursed.
00:40:33There are some technical problems
00:40:34which concern those who do not have the incapacitated,
00:40:38the so-called,
00:40:38those who have no fiscal resources to recover,
00:40:42but even there it is enough to work on the condominiums
00:40:45in such a way that they are the companies
00:40:47to manage this tax credit
00:40:48and the maneuver can start.
00:40:50And if we are all aware,
00:40:52for example when we buy a house,
00:40:55we will have to start asking too
00:40:56if that house is safe,
00:40:58because this means that the houses
00:41:00which have been worked on will be worth more
00:41:02and it becomes convenient to do those things.
00:41:05Exactly, asking also means evaluating,
00:41:07that's important.
00:41:07Ultimately it's a market economy
00:41:09and it must be used in a positive way
00:41:12the means and also the constraints of the market economy.
00:41:16You need to have a different kind of mentality.
00:41:21We must not leave things to chance,
00:41:24the territory must not be neglected
00:41:26as unfortunately has been done on many occasions
00:41:30in past years.
00:41:31Igor Stagliano tells us about it.
00:41:40500 tremors in 24 hours,
00:41:42a meter and a half of snow in a week.
00:41:45Lots of snow, lots of tremors,
00:41:47they hadn't seen each other all together for decades.
00:41:49A coincidence of exceptional events.
00:41:52Experts agree on this.
00:41:54On the causes of so much drama and suffering
00:41:57perhaps some more analysis is needed.
00:42:00Extreme weather events are intensifying,
00:42:03climatologists remind us,
00:42:04with every water bomb, flood or record snowfall.
00:42:08The Balkan Cold Wave
00:42:09which has gripped the Apennines
00:42:11This is just the latest tragic episode.
00:42:14A sign, scholars add,
00:42:16that the rope of global warming
00:42:18she's already too tense.
00:42:19And it intensifies at the same pace
00:42:21the senseless consumption of the land,
00:42:23The latest ISPRA report reminds us.
00:42:25In recent decades this land consumption
00:42:28has now affected 21,000 km2 of our territory
00:42:31to understand each other as if we had covered with concrete and asphalt
00:42:34the whole of Emilia Romagna.
00:42:36All this happens in the most vulnerable areas
00:42:39of a fragile country,
00:42:40with the stamps of the law almost always in place,
00:42:44both before eroding essential space
00:42:46to the cycles of nature,
00:42:48with buildings and infrastructure,
00:42:50especially after,
00:42:51with amnesties and pardons.
00:42:53Also for the Rigopiano hotel,
00:42:55built in the center of two snow-filled ravines,
00:42:59it seems to be this,
00:43:00the opaque frame of the painting.
00:43:02Today we find hundreds of thousands of Italians
00:43:04who live in areas called
00:43:06bathroom, bathroom, seven bathrooms.
00:43:08Even the toponymy recalls a bit
00:43:11this great risk,
00:43:12that's why it was built like this,
00:43:14everywhere, even today
00:43:16the State does not know what happened with the three amnesties.
00:43:21With the melting snow
00:43:22River flows will continue to increase.
00:43:25The flow has already gone from 3 to 7 cubic meters per second.
00:43:29With the landslides of a shaken territory
00:43:31hydrogeological instability in the valleys will increase.
00:43:35We should finally be aware of this.
00:43:37There are no killer floods and killer avalanches.
00:43:41It's our behaviors
00:43:43to always pull the trigger.
00:43:49Now let's go to pens again.
00:43:53Let's reach our Alessio Zucchini
00:43:56why should...
00:43:58I imagine, Alessio, still
00:44:00the names of the other five
00:44:02were not disclosed during their lifetime.
00:44:08No Paolo, that's what I wanted to show you.
00:44:10but since you were talking about pride
00:44:13of Heroic Italy
00:44:14I want to show you a picture
00:44:15which tells a little about all this.
00:44:17We are in the pen sports hall
00:44:19and those you see who are sleeping
00:44:22in their sleeping bags
00:44:23on the mats on the floor
00:44:25they are the mountain rescue men.
00:44:27They worked all day
00:44:29on the mountain at high altitude.
00:44:31They went with their skis
00:44:32to dig, to probe the ground
00:44:33to bring out the survivors
00:44:35then they came back here
00:44:36and they went to sleep
00:44:38in sleeping bags on mattresses
00:44:40to then start again
00:44:41the same scene tomorrow morning
00:44:43to go back up
00:44:44and to alternate
00:44:45with the many rescuers
00:44:46who are working in the area.
00:44:48We've told them all a little bit
00:44:50these days
00:44:50the firefighters
00:44:51that are down there
00:44:52that they are taking out
00:44:54people from the avalanche
00:44:56then there are the financiers
00:44:57who were the first to arrive
00:44:58the mountain rescue men
00:45:00but the army also contributed.
00:45:01There are really so many, so many
00:45:03Carabinieri and police
00:45:04who have committed themselves
00:45:05to the point of strangeness of forces
00:45:07these days
00:45:08to be able to tell us
00:45:09some beautiful stories
00:45:10like the ones we told you about today.
00:45:12But we must not forget
00:45:13that there are still
00:45:14many people down there
00:45:15we have often told it
00:45:17Today
00:45:17the day was
00:45:18very particular
00:45:19very intense
00:45:20but also divided in half
00:45:21on one side
00:45:22the satisfaction
00:45:22for these people
00:45:23that were torn off
00:45:24from the rubble
00:45:25and from the snow
00:45:26on the other
00:45:27the concern
00:45:28and despair
00:45:29for those who are still under
00:45:30and for those who didn't make it.
00:45:32To you.
00:45:32Thank you
00:45:33Thank you
00:45:34and general
00:45:34the curiosity is that there are also
00:45:36the coast guard pilots
00:45:38really
00:45:39who work in the mountains.
00:45:40Yes
00:45:41we are employing
00:45:43different setups
00:45:45that arrive a little bit
00:45:46from all the various armed forces
00:45:48at this moment
00:45:49we are taking action
00:45:50with 17 vehicles
00:45:51to the rotary
00:45:52that arrive
00:45:54in the vast majority
00:45:55from the army
00:45:56they are also helicopters
00:45:57heavy load
00:45:58like the CH-47
00:45:59those with double blades
00:46:01just to be clear
00:46:03and with which
00:46:04we are using
00:46:06just for the evacuation
00:46:07of some fractions
00:46:08and instead
00:46:09with helicopters
00:46:10the littlest ones
00:46:11we are going
00:46:11in the isolated hamlets
00:46:13and through these specialized troops
00:46:15of the Alpine troops
00:46:16they are left
00:46:18in some places
00:46:19and with skis
00:46:20slowly slowly
00:46:21then they come closer
00:46:22and they arrive at the fractions
00:46:23and they try to give us
00:46:24of the assessments
00:46:25on what the real situation is
00:46:27of that fraction
00:46:28which is abandoned.
00:46:29Today we had
00:46:30even the need
00:46:31to do
00:46:32a fast rope
00:46:33with a helicopter
00:46:34of the army
00:46:36in which
00:46:36the Alpine troops
00:46:37paratroopers
00:46:38of the Matterhorn
00:46:39they went down
00:46:41in a fraction
00:46:42which was isolated
00:46:43for several days
00:46:44at Acqua Santa Terme
00:46:45precisely because
00:46:46the snow cover
00:46:49and the impact
00:46:50of helicopters
00:46:51which they may have
00:46:52near these facilities
00:46:53and to these
00:46:54homes
00:46:56it can be dangerous
00:46:57so very often
00:47:00the pose
00:47:01of the staff
00:47:02it can't be done
00:47:03right next door
00:47:03in the town center
00:47:04but it must be done
00:47:05in a safe area
00:47:06without triggering
00:47:07other avalanches
00:47:08other avalanches
00:47:09or other situations
00:47:10of danger
00:47:11and then slowly slowly
00:47:11you have to get closer
00:47:13to these infrastructures.
00:47:15I would like to say
00:47:15hearing first
00:47:17of landslides
00:47:17if you allow me
00:47:19that we have to here
00:47:20even think
00:47:21that the territory
00:47:22so now
00:47:22we are talking
00:47:23here at the hotel
00:47:24but a little
00:47:25across the entire crater
00:47:26the series of earthquakes
00:47:29that we had
00:47:30of these earthquakes
00:47:31above all
00:47:32of the strong ones
00:47:33they devastated
00:47:34completely
00:47:35the territory
00:47:36I remember
00:47:36the Valnerina
00:47:37that there is a landslide
00:47:38huge
00:47:39which has occluded
00:47:40even the river
00:47:41that we are monitoring
00:47:42but there are landslides
00:47:43everywhere
00:47:44these landslides
00:47:45clearly now
00:47:46they are covered
00:47:47from this snow cover
00:47:49which clearly
00:47:51covers
00:47:52the eye does not see
00:47:53but the danger is always there
00:47:55and there is this further
00:47:56danger of avalanches
00:47:58it is clear that the road system
00:47:59so it becomes
00:48:00important to open it
00:48:02but it's not enough
00:48:03lead the way
00:48:04you also have to look
00:48:05the sides of these mountains
00:48:06Certain
00:48:07and it's not a simple operation
00:48:09the news says
00:48:10which was
00:48:11reopened
00:48:12completely
00:48:13the road
00:48:15that from Farindola
00:48:16bring note
00:48:17at the hotel
00:48:18of Rigopiano
00:48:19but now
00:48:19let's jump right in
00:48:21in Washington
00:48:23Why
00:48:24there is Marco
00:48:26our Marco Clementi
00:48:28Why
00:48:28Donald Trump
00:48:29a little while ago
00:48:30he entered
00:48:30at the White House
00:48:32and it became
00:48:33for all intents and purposes
00:48:34the 45th
00:48:35president
00:48:36of the
00:48:37United States
00:48:39we remember
00:48:40in this
00:48:41day
00:48:42so important
00:48:43the presence
00:48:45also of
00:48:45Hillary and
00:48:46Bill Clinton
00:48:47at the ceremony
00:48:49of the oath
00:48:50on Capitol Hill
00:48:51and there were
00:48:51naturally
00:48:52Also
00:48:52the fresh
00:48:54former president
00:48:54Obama
00:48:55with
00:48:56his wife
00:48:57Obama
00:48:57we remember it
00:48:58in 2009
00:48:59which is
00:49:00in L'Aquila
00:49:01moved
00:49:02in seeing
00:49:03the consequences
00:49:04of that tragic
00:49:06earthquake
00:49:07Donald Trump
00:49:09instead in his speech
00:49:10it appeared
00:49:10much more
00:49:11pragmatic
00:49:12he proposed again
00:49:13all
00:49:14the
00:49:15themes
00:49:16who had
00:49:17expressed
00:49:18with decision
00:49:20in the countryside
00:49:20electoral
00:49:21right away
00:49:21there was
00:49:22a reaction
00:49:23with a series
00:49:24of demonstrations
00:49:25right in Washington
00:49:27there will be some
00:49:28tomorrow too
00:49:28Marco Clementi
00:49:30followed
00:49:30this day
00:49:32and we give it to him
00:49:32the line
00:49:36Yes Paul
00:49:37here we are
00:49:38precisely
00:49:38let's go then
00:49:39from the tail
00:49:39of your synthesis
00:49:40from the demonstrations
00:49:41you were referring to
00:49:43you see I'm talking to you
00:49:43now from
00:49:44Downtown DC
00:49:45the heart itself
00:49:46of Washington
00:49:47we are practically under
00:49:48The Washington Post
00:49:49in the city center
00:49:50and as you can see
00:49:51there is still tension
00:49:52on this day
00:49:53long
00:49:54very long
00:49:54historical
00:49:55we'll talk about it now
00:49:56for many reasons
00:49:57but one day
00:49:58who saw
00:49:58for the first time
00:49:59it had never happened before
00:50:00even moments of strong tension
00:50:01moments of real violence
00:50:02it had never happened before
00:50:04I was telling you on the day
00:50:05of the settlement
00:50:05of a president
00:50:06of the United States
00:50:07the settlement
00:50:08it was precisely
00:50:09it was followed
00:50:10the ceremonial
00:50:11first the moment
00:50:12of prayer
00:50:13then the tea
00:50:13which is almost a passage
00:50:15of delivery
00:50:15even so unofficial
00:50:17tea at the White House
00:50:18offered by the president
00:50:20outgoing
00:50:20from the presidential couple
00:50:21outgoing
00:50:22Barack and Michelle Obama
00:50:23the new presidential couple
00:50:25to Donald Trump
00:50:25and Melania
00:50:26then from the White House
00:50:27we moved there
00:50:28at the Capitol
00:50:30Capitol Hill for a long time
00:50:32and right there
00:50:32the great
00:50:33moment of the oath
00:50:35first he swore
00:50:36the vice president
00:50:36then he swore
00:50:38Donald Trump
00:50:39it was noon
00:50:40here in Washington
00:50:416pm
00:50:41from you
00:50:43in Italy
00:50:43then the parade
00:50:45this one too
00:50:46by tradition
00:50:47long
00:50:47precisely
00:50:48Pennsylvania Avenue
00:50:49from then on
00:50:50the Capitol
00:50:51up to the White House
00:50:52and there they were
00:50:53moments of clashes
00:50:54of real violence
00:50:55were expected
00:50:56900,000 people
00:50:58here in Washington
00:50:58for the settlement
00:50:59when he took office
00:51:01Obama
00:51:02in 2009
00:51:03there were 2 million
00:51:04so many
00:51:05naturally
00:51:05Trump supporters
00:51:06we followed them
00:51:07we were with them
00:51:08but so many
00:51:09even the protesters
00:51:10and we crossed them
00:51:12several times
00:51:12in this
00:51:13long day
00:51:14already in the morning
00:51:15peaceful protests
00:51:17Surely
00:51:17at the start
00:51:18it was this
00:51:18the intention
00:51:19there were movements
00:51:20feminists
00:51:21there were
00:51:22precisely women
00:51:23that invoke
00:51:25dignity
00:51:26one's dignity
00:51:27the defense
00:51:27of dignity
00:51:28worried
00:51:28in short for the statements
00:51:29by Trump
00:51:30throughout the countryside
00:51:32electoral
00:51:33along his
00:51:33past
00:51:34you will also remember
00:51:35about Washington Post
00:51:36the scoop
00:51:37what he did
00:51:38The Washington Post
00:51:39with
00:51:39In short
00:51:40back the scenes
00:51:41of a TV show
00:51:42in which the new president
00:51:43in short he hadn't gone
00:51:44very tender
00:51:45with women
00:51:47he had said sexist phrases
00:51:48Here you are
00:51:49but then
00:51:49I was telling you
00:51:50the situation has degenerated
00:51:51own
00:51:51around noon
00:51:53when Donald Trump
00:51:54he swore
00:51:55on Capitol Hill
00:51:56at the Capitol
00:51:57Here you are
00:51:57shortly before
00:51:59shortly before
00:52:00of the parade
00:52:00The
00:52:01The
00:52:02precisely
00:52:03the generation of violence
00:52:04they entered
00:52:05of the groups
00:52:07Yes, of course
00:52:08Here you are
00:52:08it's a bit of a paradoxical situation
00:52:10Paul
00:52:10because here where I am
00:52:11you see these people
00:52:12elegant
00:52:13certainly some
00:52:15that still go
00:52:15to the many scenes
00:52:16which are in progress
00:52:17this evening
00:52:18here in Washington
00:52:19together with protesters
00:52:20together with the police
00:52:21in keeping
00:52:22riot police
00:52:23I was telling you
00:52:24at a certain point
00:52:25scenes of violence
00:52:26guerrilla scenes
00:52:27they entered
00:52:28in the procession
00:52:29groups
00:52:29of perhaps
00:52:30black bloc
00:52:31hooded
00:52:32dressed in black
00:52:32they destroyed
00:52:33the windows of a bank
00:52:34the windows of a McDonald's
00:52:35of a fast food restaurant
00:52:36the windows of some cars
00:52:38the police intervened
00:52:39with tear gas
00:52:41with gases
00:52:42stinging
00:52:43there have been
00:52:44a hundred arrests
00:52:45some agents
00:52:46bruised
00:52:47among other things today
00:52:47you can imagine
00:52:48the level of security
00:52:50of the police
00:52:51it's very high
00:52:52there are about
00:52:5328,000 agents
00:52:535,000 men
00:52:54of the National Guard
00:52:55we saw
00:52:56the sharpshooters
00:52:58in the buildings
00:52:58along the whole
00:52:59the path
00:53:00for example
00:53:00of the parade
00:53:02tension which however
00:53:04he arrives
00:53:05arrives on the eve
00:53:06of the great march
00:53:07what will be there tomorrow
00:53:07200,000 women
00:53:08here in Washington
00:53:10and in many others
00:53:11city
00:53:12then of the United States
00:53:13now let's see
00:53:14Marilu Lucrezio's piece
00:53:15which summarizes us
00:53:16a bit of the contents
00:53:17and other aspects
00:53:18of this long
00:53:19and historic day
00:53:28I solemnly swear
00:53:30that I will fulfill
00:53:31with loyalty
00:53:31the role of president
00:53:33of the United States
00:53:34I will preserve
00:53:35I will protect
00:53:35and I will defend
00:53:36the Constitution
00:53:37of the United States
00:53:38with the help of God
00:53:44Donald Trump
00:53:45from this moment
00:53:46it's the 45th
00:53:47president
00:53:47of the United States
00:53:48swears
00:53:49on two Bibles
00:53:50held by the wife
00:53:51Melania
00:53:52one belonged
00:53:53to the president
00:53:54Abraham Lincoln
00:53:54the other
00:53:55a gift
00:53:56of the mother
00:53:57received
00:53:57when he had
00:53:58nine years
00:53:59Trump
00:53:59takes the floor
00:54:05Today
00:54:08it's a ceremony
00:54:09historical
00:54:09the power
00:54:10is transferred
00:54:11from Washington
00:54:12to you
00:54:12to the Americans
00:54:13return to the people
00:54:14he says
00:54:15for too long
00:54:16the politicians
00:54:17they have prospered
00:54:18and the citizen
00:54:19it wasn't
00:54:19never protected
00:54:20there is nothing
00:54:21to celebrate
00:54:22for families
00:54:23who struggle
00:54:23to arrive
00:54:24similarly
00:54:24but today
00:54:25everything changes
00:54:26we will report here
00:54:28the jobs
00:54:29transferred abroad
00:54:30investments
00:54:31they will be made here
00:54:32every decision
00:54:33will be taken
00:54:34for the benefit
00:54:35of our workers
00:54:36we will do it again
00:54:37great America
00:54:38repeats several times
00:54:39praises protectionism
00:54:41buy American
00:54:42hire American
00:54:43this is his motto
00:54:45promises to erase
00:54:46Islamic extremism
00:54:48off the face of the earth
00:54:49and in foreign policy
00:54:50we will strengthen
00:54:51old alliances
00:54:52and we will create them
00:54:53of new
00:54:54but always
00:54:55putting America
00:54:56in first place
00:54:57then an appeal
00:54:58to the nation
00:54:59when he calls back
00:55:00the red blood
00:55:01of patriotism
00:55:07you noticed
00:55:09that it was raining
00:55:11nevertheless
00:55:12among the crowd
00:55:13that he was feeling
00:55:14the speech
00:55:14of the new president
00:55:15there wasn't even one
00:55:16an umbrella
00:55:17Well
00:55:18it was for reasons
00:55:19of safety
00:55:20they were feared
00:55:21possible attacks
00:55:22so they were
00:55:23seized
00:55:23all the umbrellas
00:55:24and even too
00:55:25bananas
00:55:26out of fear
00:55:27that they could
00:55:28use
00:55:29and throw them
00:55:31against the park
00:55:32of the authorities
00:55:33but now
00:55:34we are able
00:55:35to connect us
00:55:36with ours
00:55:37corresponding
00:55:38Giovanna Botteri
00:55:39to comment
00:55:41with her
00:55:42and with Gianni Riotta
00:55:44this speech
00:55:45extremely
00:55:46programmatic
00:55:47I would say Giovanna
00:55:48not a speech
00:55:50which probably
00:55:52it will remain handed down
00:55:54one of the speeches
00:55:55maybe like those
00:55:56of the new frontier
00:55:57by Kennedy
00:55:58it was a speech
00:55:59made right
00:56:00of a lot of pragmatism
00:56:03by
00:56:03of the new president
00:56:08pragmatism
00:56:09and closure
00:56:10among other things
00:56:10we meet
00:56:11in front of
00:56:12at the White House
00:56:13you see it
00:56:14behind us
00:56:15where Donald Trump
00:56:16and Melania
00:56:17they returned
00:56:19right this moment
00:56:20while we talk to you
00:56:21they are coming back
00:56:23at the White House
00:56:23that from today
00:56:24likely
00:56:25for others
00:56:26four years
00:56:27at least
00:56:27will be
00:56:28their
00:56:29house
00:56:30they returned
00:56:30from the big one
00:56:32parade
00:56:33the day is cold
00:56:34it rained
00:56:35as you said
00:56:36without umbrellas
00:56:36and without
00:56:37bananas
00:56:38and the speech
00:56:39very short
00:56:40by Trump
00:56:41was
00:56:42a speech
00:56:43which hit
00:56:45us
00:56:45above all
00:56:46because of this
00:56:47protectionism
00:56:48for this one
00:56:49extreme closure
00:56:50which has demonstrated
00:56:51at a certain point
00:56:51he said
00:56:52I want to say it
00:56:52to foreign capitals
00:56:54this
00:56:54it's another America
00:56:56forget it
00:56:56all that
00:56:57that you saw
00:56:57until now
00:56:58Now
00:56:59we will not spend
00:57:00more money
00:57:00for you
00:57:01we will not spend
00:57:01more forces
00:57:02for you
00:57:03we will not spend
00:57:04more energy
00:57:04for you
00:57:05he will return
00:57:06all backwards
00:57:08must return
00:57:09all backwards
00:57:10the work
00:57:10must be American
00:57:11and we have to think
00:57:13at our borders
00:57:15yes Giovanna
00:57:17it really was like that
00:57:18It really impressed me
00:57:20the cry
00:57:20of America First
00:57:21America first
00:57:22which was the old cry
00:57:23of the American right
00:57:25of the 30s
00:57:26and then
00:57:27the invitation
00:57:28to buy American
00:57:29and hire an American
00:57:31what does it mean
00:57:32close the country
00:57:33while we know
00:57:34that a third
00:57:34of companies
00:57:35of Silicon Valley
00:57:36were founded
00:57:36from emigrants
00:57:38Therefore
00:57:38a Trump
00:57:39who keeps faith
00:57:40to the word
00:57:40wants to close America
00:57:42Obviously
00:57:42let's see if he can do it
00:57:43I would like to ask
00:57:45to Gianni Riotta
00:57:46if
00:57:46the confirmation
00:57:49of the bet
00:57:50on the role
00:57:51of the general
00:57:52Mattis
00:57:52actually
00:57:54tell us
00:57:56what
00:57:57from the point of view
00:57:58military
00:57:59it will be done
00:58:00in the next few years
00:58:01in the United States
00:58:06Paul
00:58:06General Mattis
00:58:08it's a good choice
00:58:09because it is
00:58:10a soldier
00:58:11very aggressive
00:58:12but that
00:58:13contradicts
00:58:14the president
00:58:14respect
00:58:15to Russia
00:58:17it has always been
00:58:18very aggressive
00:58:19towards Iran
00:58:20and let's see how
00:58:21this one will get married
00:58:23since then
00:58:23Iran
00:58:24and Russia
00:58:25Putin's friend
00:58:26I am instead
00:58:26allies in Syria
00:58:27but
00:58:28General Mattis
00:58:30who is highly esteemed
00:58:31among the armed forces
00:58:32and already now
00:58:34in serious contrast
00:58:35with another choice
00:58:36of the president
00:58:36General Flynn
00:58:37that is trying
00:58:39in these hours
00:58:39while we are here
00:58:40to speak
00:58:40to impose his men
00:58:42everywhere
00:58:42from national security
00:58:44at the Pentagon
00:58:46to the Department
00:58:46of State
00:58:47so already
00:58:48outside
00:58:49of the unit
00:58:50on parade
00:58:51within the administration
00:58:53Trump
00:58:53there are contrasts
00:58:54let's say so
00:58:55not among the moderates
00:58:56and the extremists
00:58:57but between
00:58:58how to tell you
00:58:59the populists
00:59:00unleash yourself
00:59:01and the moderates
00:59:02Joan
00:59:04there
00:59:04former
00:59:05first lady
00:59:06he said
00:59:07I greet you
00:59:08but we'll see each other again
00:59:09Soon
00:59:09and everyone wondered
00:59:11but how?
00:59:12how will it be done
00:59:13review
00:59:13Michelle Obama
00:59:16with the foundation
00:59:18Obama
00:59:18the Obamas
00:59:19at this moment
00:59:20they go to rest
00:59:22they greeted everyone
00:59:23they go to rest
00:59:25they will have it
00:59:26also need
00:59:28but they leave
00:59:29with this
00:59:30strong message
00:59:31that
00:59:32on which they want
00:59:33work
00:59:34and work
00:59:34both
00:59:35and the foundation
00:59:37Obama
00:59:37which is a great
00:59:38project
00:59:39somehow
00:59:40almost a gym
00:59:41of democracy
00:59:42which of course
00:59:44it will inevitably end
00:59:45to oppose
00:59:46to the foundation
00:59:47Clinton
00:59:48and to all his
00:59:49ghosts
00:59:50it must be a foundation
00:59:52they made a very short video
00:59:53which is already going online
00:59:55in which they explain
00:59:56what is it
00:59:57this library
00:59:58what is it
00:59:59this foundation
01:00:00and an idea
01:00:01an idea
01:00:02to collect
01:00:03the citizens
01:00:04and the sense of citizenship
01:00:06to build
01:00:07why optimism
01:00:08by Obama
01:00:09it was confirmed
01:00:10even today
01:00:11despite the day
01:00:12in Puglia
01:00:13optimism
01:00:15And
01:00:15there are young people
01:00:17there are young people
01:00:18that grow
01:00:18who believe
01:00:19and they build
01:00:20democracy
01:00:21this is the foundation
01:00:22and Michelle said
01:00:23on this both
01:00:25we want to work
01:00:26exactly like that
01:00:27I believe that
01:00:29we have a great future
01:00:29the foundation
01:00:30of President Clinton
01:00:31which follows a little
01:00:33fate
01:00:34of its two founders
01:00:35Bill and Hillary Clinton
01:00:36but
01:00:37President Obama
01:00:38it's at this moment
01:00:39the party leader
01:00:41democratic
01:00:41a party that is
01:00:42upset
01:00:43from this defeat
01:00:45upset
01:00:45from President Trump
01:00:46so the only point
01:00:47of reference
01:00:48it's President Obama
01:00:50around which
01:00:50they all hug each other
01:00:52in fact no one
01:00:53or can he say
01:00:54Obama and Michelle
01:00:55Obama and Michelle
01:00:56naturally
01:00:57but nobody
01:00:57or can he say
01:00:58Joan
01:00:58but some mistakes
01:00:59you did it too
01:01:00for now
01:01:00this is the great silence
01:01:02of the Democratic Party
01:01:03then they will also get to this
01:01:04Thank you
01:01:05Thanks Gianni Riotta
01:01:06thanks Giovanna
01:01:08one of the first things
01:01:10and we have it here
01:01:11that the new president Trump
01:01:14he decided
01:01:15is to abolish
01:01:16the climate action plan
01:01:18which was a bit
01:01:19the heart
01:01:19of the environmental strategy
01:01:21by President Obama
01:01:23Therefore
01:01:23Trump first thing
01:01:24what he did
01:01:25he deleted it
01:01:26and he said
01:01:27guys forget it
01:01:29all precautions
01:01:29that we could have
01:01:30for example on coal
01:01:32Yes
01:01:33he had said it
01:01:34in the election campaign
01:01:35he announced it now too
01:01:36in the election campaign
01:01:37he also said something
01:01:38which in my opinion
01:01:38not even a drunkard
01:01:40in a bar he would say
01:01:40that is, climate change
01:01:42I'm a maneuver
01:01:44of China
01:01:44to damage
01:01:45the United States
01:01:46which is one thing
01:01:46really that
01:01:47I believe
01:01:48he is at risk
01:01:49to give to China
01:01:50a formidable assist
01:01:51why China
01:01:52that we saw
01:01:53in Marrakesh
01:01:54and also in Davos
01:01:54it is a China that says
01:01:55you want an open world
01:01:57here we are
01:01:58In short
01:01:58Then
01:01:58you want the fight
01:02:00to climate change
01:02:01here we are
01:02:02it's clear that
01:02:04Trump is the President
01:02:05of the United States
01:02:06and we have to deal with it
01:02:07he has to deal with it
01:02:08but also with other problems
01:02:10a
01:02:10the economy
01:02:11it's going in one direction
01:02:11different
01:02:12on the issues
01:02:13of the environment
01:02:14two
01:02:14let's remember that
01:02:15Trump won
01:02:16with 3 million fewer votes
01:02:18that is, he doesn't have
01:02:19the majority
01:02:20of the Americans
01:02:21with him
01:02:22imagine yourself in Italy
01:02:23if someone
01:02:24had won the elections
01:02:25with 3 million fewer votes
01:02:27what would have happened
01:02:28there is great respect there
01:02:30of the institutions
01:02:31I saw
01:02:32in the beautiful speech
01:02:33what Obama did
01:02:34in Chicago
01:02:35that he stopped
01:02:36immediately
01:02:37boos at Trump
01:02:38because he
01:02:39he is the President-elect
01:02:40and then
01:02:41he has respect
01:02:42but Obama said
01:02:43even with clarity
01:02:44one thing
01:02:44I'm not doing
01:02:45the balance of the 8 years
01:02:46I make the agenda
01:02:47of my political commitment
01:02:49on the agenda
01:02:50of political commitment
01:02:51by Obama
01:02:51the question
01:02:52of climate change
01:02:53of the environment
01:02:53it is central
01:02:54so I think
01:02:55that there will be
01:02:56a clash
01:02:57Thank you
01:02:58Thank you
01:02:58to tie up
01:02:59let's go back
01:03:00to the topics
01:03:02of the earthquake
01:03:02I had it for you
01:03:03announced first
01:03:05a tribute
01:03:07necessary
01:03:08obligatory
01:03:09to the effort
01:03:10of how many
01:03:11for three days
01:03:12they are working
01:03:13incessantly
01:03:14on the Gran Sasso
01:03:16with this service
01:03:17by Amedeo Ricucci
01:03:19dedicated precisely
01:03:20to the volunteers
01:03:21that are
01:03:22working
01:03:23Here you are
01:03:35Here you are
01:03:36is coming
01:03:37the service
01:03:37by Amedeo Ricucci
01:03:38if you find yourself
01:03:40you live
01:03:40we are operating
01:03:42together with
01:03:42USA Tuscany
01:03:43and to
01:03:44components
01:03:45of all
01:03:45to get them out
01:03:50mountain rescue
01:03:51firefighters
01:03:52policemen
01:03:53Carabinieri
01:03:54doctors
01:03:55paramedics
01:03:55and volunteers
01:03:56of protection
01:03:57civil
01:03:59they are all
01:04:00at work
01:04:01for more than 48 hours
01:04:02continuously
01:04:03for the sole purpose
01:04:04to maintain
01:04:05lit
01:04:06the flame
01:04:06of hope
01:04:07in that hell
01:04:08of ice
01:04:09that up to two days
01:04:10It used to be a hotel
01:04:15none of them
01:04:16he backed out
01:04:17and to throw
01:04:18the heart
01:04:18beyond the obstacle
01:04:19they did
01:04:20the only thing
01:04:21that in these situations
01:04:22dramatic
01:04:23it can be done
01:04:24dig
01:04:25dig
01:04:25dig too
01:04:26with your hands
01:04:27in the dark
01:04:28or almost
01:04:29and in conditions
01:04:30prohibitive
01:04:33after grinding
01:04:35kilometers
01:04:36over kilometers
01:04:36in the middle of
01:04:37to the storm
01:04:37of snow
01:04:38careless
01:04:39of the risk
01:04:40that they too
01:04:41the rescuers
01:04:41they run
01:04:42having to operate
01:04:43in the bowels
01:04:44of a structure
01:04:45which has already collapsed
01:04:46and it could
01:04:47to collapse
01:04:48for a moment
01:04:48to the other
01:04:53quickly
01:04:54quickly
01:04:55everything is done
01:04:56quickly
01:04:56to stop
01:04:57the big clock
01:04:58of fear
01:04:59why now
01:05:00after now
01:05:01the hourglass
01:05:02it empties
01:05:03and then
01:05:03there isn't even one
01:05:04the weather
01:05:05of a tear
01:05:05for the bodies
01:05:06which are extracted
01:05:07lifeless
01:05:08only time
01:05:09for some applause
01:05:10and a caress
01:05:11to chase after
01:05:12the little one
01:05:13Gianfilippo
01:05:13just extracted alive
01:05:20they promised
01:05:21to themselves
01:05:22to bring them back
01:05:22everyone at home
01:05:24and that's it
01:05:25the only satisfaction
01:05:26that they are looking for
01:05:27the only true one
01:05:28reward
01:05:29for the effort
01:05:30the deprivations
01:05:31and the risk
01:05:32it's the big heart
01:05:36of Italy
01:05:36who is not afraid
01:05:37and that's right
01:05:38in difficult times
01:05:40come back to beat
01:05:41and now
01:05:47to complete
01:05:49the story
01:05:50of this day
01:05:52in the areas
01:05:53of the earthquake
01:05:54let's go
01:05:55from Emma
01:05:56Cucea
01:05:56from Matrix
01:05:57Where
01:05:58there is some
01:06:00positive news
01:06:02some elements
01:06:03able
01:06:04Here you are
01:06:05to give
01:06:05more hope
01:06:07some smiles
01:06:09here today
01:06:09at the Operations Center
01:06:11Municipal
01:06:11we saw it
01:06:12this morning
01:06:13during the draw
01:06:14of the first
01:06:1425 little houses
01:06:16temporary
01:06:16this is the news
01:06:17positive of the day
01:06:19After
01:06:19the snowfalls
01:06:21after the earthquake
01:06:22Unfortunately
01:06:23very strong
01:06:23which has weakened
01:06:24even more
01:06:25the souls
01:06:26of the people
01:06:26from Amatrice
01:06:27but today
01:06:28the 25 little houses
01:06:29which have been
01:06:30assigned
01:06:31they represent
01:06:32a point
01:06:33still starting again
01:06:35once again
01:06:36they were not
01:06:37the works
01:06:37they haven't been yet
01:06:38concluded
01:06:39they have not been
01:06:40delivered
01:06:41probably
01:06:42will be delivered
01:06:43in February
01:06:43because because
01:06:44of the frost
01:06:45before and then
01:06:45of snowfalls
01:06:46the works
01:06:47of urbanization
01:06:48they were
01:06:49interrupted
01:06:50so we will have to
01:06:50still waiting
01:06:52the tremors
01:06:52Unfortunately
01:06:53they don't stop
01:06:54the seismic swarm
01:06:55continues
01:06:55the last one
01:06:56just a little while ago
01:06:57from Matrix
01:06:58that's all
01:06:58to you
01:06:58Thank you
01:07:00Thank you
01:07:00let's go back
01:07:01the study
01:07:02I would like to ask
01:07:03to Carmine Lizza
01:07:04at this point
01:07:07he tells us
01:07:08the expert
01:07:11of earthquakes
01:07:11that the sequences
01:07:12I'm not yet
01:07:13finished
01:07:14there is something to do
01:07:16Very
01:07:16but
01:07:17with which
01:07:18criterion
01:07:19At that time
01:07:20in this
01:07:21concomitance
01:07:22of the earthquake
01:07:23with
01:07:24Unfortunately
01:07:25the problem
01:07:25of the snow
01:07:26Therefore
01:07:26the problems
01:07:26meteorological
01:07:27and those
01:07:28which probably
01:07:28will arise
01:07:30from activation
01:07:31of landslides
01:07:31the priority
01:07:32that's it
01:07:33to put
01:07:33in safety
01:07:34as much as possible
01:07:35the territory
01:07:35and to reach
01:07:36all people
01:07:36who need
01:07:37to be reached
01:07:38Today
01:07:39the problem
01:07:40real
01:07:41and concrete
01:07:41it's mobility
01:07:42on the territory
01:07:42we can't
01:07:44to have
01:07:44that mobility
01:07:45ordinary
01:07:45that should be done
01:07:46have
01:07:46already in condition
01:07:47normal
01:07:48let's imagine
01:07:48in conditions
01:07:49of a
01:07:49of a
01:07:50of an earthquake
01:07:51in progress
01:07:52and then
01:07:53the priority
01:07:54essentially
01:07:54that's it
01:07:54to restore
01:07:55all the ways
01:07:56of communication
01:07:56and put them
01:07:57in safety
01:07:58because trivially
01:07:59also cut
01:08:00a slope
01:08:01with lots of snow
01:08:02could become
01:08:04unstable
01:08:05if it is not done
01:08:05with discretion
01:08:07Therefore
01:08:08the problem
01:08:09snow
01:08:09it's a problem
01:08:10that we will take it with us
01:08:11forward for several days
01:08:12regardless
01:08:13if there is sun
01:08:14if it rains
01:08:15or will continue
01:08:16to snow
01:08:16after which
01:08:17there will be
01:08:18the intervention
01:08:18the concrete one
01:08:19about the earthquake
01:08:20let's not forget
01:08:21that still
01:08:22we are
01:08:22in the situation
01:08:24to begin
01:08:25to go
01:08:27in the direction
01:08:28of the reconstruction
01:08:30General
01:08:31the means
01:08:31are they enough?
01:08:33the means
01:08:34they are sufficient
01:08:35the problem
01:08:37is that
01:08:37even with a means
01:08:39sufficient
01:08:39when you go
01:08:40above all
01:08:41all the roads
01:08:43municipal
01:08:43which is that
01:08:44a little bit
01:08:45at this moment
01:08:46more in crisis
01:08:47because as we have heard
01:08:48the state one
01:08:48provincial
01:08:49she was released
01:08:50the municipal one
01:08:51we are talking
01:08:52of little streets
01:08:53halfway up the hill
01:08:54that with three meters
01:08:55of snow
01:08:55it gets lost
01:08:56absolutely
01:08:57the level
01:08:58altimetric
01:08:59and they get lost
01:09:00the contours
01:09:01of the road
01:09:01I'll give you an example
01:09:02we have reached
01:09:03of the fractions
01:09:04to do 5 km
01:09:05we put it in
01:09:06from 4pm
01:09:07up to the moon
01:09:08at night
01:09:09why we proceed
01:09:10in a manner
01:09:10very slow
01:09:11you have to understand
01:09:12what is the trend
01:09:13of the road
01:09:14where are the contours
01:09:15of this road
01:09:16the snow
01:09:16it doesn't just go
01:09:17moved
01:09:18because then
01:09:18there would be
01:09:19of the accumulations
01:09:19which can become
01:09:20dangerous
01:09:21so it goes right
01:09:22removed
01:09:23or through
01:09:24the turbines
01:09:25or through
01:09:25some balls
01:09:26that are loaded
01:09:27on trucks
01:09:27and taken to areas
01:09:28safer
01:09:29where it can be
01:09:30this snow was dumped
01:09:31so it's the slowness
01:09:32specific to the procedure
01:09:33which is inevitable
01:09:35the means are absolutely
01:09:36sufficient
01:09:37the means are sufficient
01:09:38and they are adequate
01:09:39adequate
01:09:40Yes
01:09:40I think
01:09:41that are adequate
01:09:42Why
01:09:42the techniques
01:09:44in order to proceed
01:09:45they are different
01:09:46now we've talked
01:09:46a lot of turbines
01:09:47a lot of turbines
01:09:48these machines
01:09:50it seems like they are
01:09:51but it can be done
01:09:52the work
01:09:53with the turbine
01:09:53but it can be done
01:09:54even with others
01:09:54with other systems
01:09:56and the work
01:09:56it's the same
01:09:57the problem
01:09:58it's just
01:09:59the technique
01:10:01to move forward
01:10:02and also
01:10:02to be able to
01:10:04safeguard
01:10:04even those who work
01:10:05that we have to go
01:10:06calmly
01:10:07slowly
01:10:09and it can't be done
01:10:10otherwise
01:10:11a curiosity
01:10:13I would like to ask you
01:10:14to Antonio Persanti
01:10:15you are present
01:10:17on the territory
01:10:18Always
01:10:19when there are
01:10:20of seismic events
01:10:21but you can work
01:10:22even with the snow?
01:10:25Yes
01:10:25our presence
01:10:27on the territory
01:10:28which is constant
01:10:29it is anyway
01:10:30incomparable
01:10:31in terms of difficulty
01:10:32and of
01:10:33let's say
01:10:34intensity
01:10:34compared to that
01:10:35of people
01:10:36who spoke
01:10:37until now
01:10:37so in this sense
01:10:38our task
01:10:39it is definitely
01:10:40much easier
01:10:42Furthermore
01:10:43most of it
01:10:43of our control
01:10:44of the territory
01:10:45which is true
01:10:46It happens 24 hours a day
01:10:47on 24
01:10:47365 days a year
01:10:49Anyway
01:10:50is carried out
01:10:51remotely
01:10:51so our task
01:10:52for goodness sake
01:10:53us too
01:10:54we are living
01:10:54difficult days
01:10:55but it's been days
01:10:56incomparably
01:10:57simpler
01:10:58of people
01:10:58who spoke
01:10:59before me
01:11:01Realacci
01:11:02starting tomorrow
01:11:03from the day after tomorrow
01:11:04since
01:11:04it will end
01:11:05the emergency
01:11:06snow
01:11:06we will start again
01:11:07to speak
01:11:08of that
01:11:09what must be done
01:11:10Well
01:11:11what needs to be done
01:11:12it's in those areas
01:11:14a reconstruction
01:11:15well done
01:11:16and in the meantime
01:11:17keep alive
01:11:18the economy
01:11:19and the communities
01:11:19Quills
01:11:20it is the headquarters
01:11:22of a
01:11:22big company
01:11:24Brioni
01:11:25of Made in Italy
01:11:26what he did
01:11:27years ago
01:11:27the clothes
01:11:28for James Bond
01:11:29Farindola
01:11:30that now
01:11:31Unfortunately
01:11:31it is tragically
01:11:32notes
01:11:33it is the only municipality
01:11:34in Italy
01:11:34where it is done
01:11:35pecorino cheese
01:11:36with rennet
01:11:36pork
01:11:37it's a cheese
01:11:37very good
01:11:38nearby
01:11:39there is a small village
01:11:40Castles
01:11:41where they do
01:11:41of ceramics
01:11:42extraordinary
01:11:43and we could
01:11:44continue
01:11:44there is Rocca Calascio
01:11:46which is a place
01:11:47magical
01:11:48keep alive
01:11:49the communities
01:11:49the activities
01:11:50because of this
01:11:51they are important
01:11:51even the stables
01:11:52agriculture
01:11:53advanced industries
01:11:54that there are
01:11:55it is essential
01:11:56Why
01:11:56if while
01:11:57rebuild
01:11:58those areas
01:11:59they desertify
01:12:00if the young people
01:12:01they can't stay
01:12:02it's a huge problem
01:12:03and the other piece
01:12:04it concerns all of Italy
01:12:05Enough
01:12:05now we have
01:12:06a first instrument
01:12:07the earthquake bonus
01:12:08there is a project
01:12:09Casitalia
01:12:10which in my opinion
01:12:10it also needs to be strengthened
01:12:12there are no more excuses
01:12:13so as not to start
01:12:14a great action
01:12:15of prevention
01:12:16earthquake-proof
01:12:17energy saving
01:12:19hydrogeological instability
01:12:20which moreover
01:12:21produces work
01:12:22and employment
01:12:23because then
01:12:24to put in hand
01:12:24to that building
01:12:25it also means
01:12:26produce many jobs
01:12:28here this is ours
01:12:29dark Italian
01:12:30if we want to do
01:12:31the comparison
01:12:31with the slogan
01:12:33by Trump
01:12:33if we want to relaunch
01:12:34the Italian economy
01:12:35a new building
01:12:37it is central
01:12:37and the stop
01:12:39in safety
01:12:39earthquake-proof
01:12:40it could be an opportunity
01:12:41Thank you
01:12:42me before concluding
01:12:44I would like to go back
01:12:45with pens
01:12:45by Enrica Maio
01:12:47to hear
01:12:49it is continuing
01:12:51to work
01:12:52Enrica
01:12:53what's going on
01:12:54at this moment
01:12:58it is continuing
01:13:00you see that
01:13:00at this moment
01:13:01it is raining
01:13:03the temperatures
01:13:03they are very low
01:13:04we are anyway
01:13:05at low altitude
01:13:06instead I'll gently touch it
01:13:07it is located at 1200 meters
01:13:09of altitude
01:13:09the firefighters
01:13:11they keep digging
01:13:13the risk is that
01:13:14since there
01:13:15it is snowing
01:13:16they are already there
01:13:183-4 meters
01:13:19of snow
01:13:20the snow could be
01:13:21Obviously
01:13:22a further impediment
01:13:24and it might slow down
01:13:26the work
01:13:27we know that
01:13:28the firefighters
01:13:29I'm in touch
01:13:30with 5 people
01:13:31that are under the debris
01:13:32under the rubble
01:13:33under the blanket of snow
01:13:34let's hope so anyway
01:13:35to give you soon
01:13:37good news
01:13:38just as it happened
01:13:40today
01:13:41Thank you
01:13:42thanks Enrico Maio
01:13:43I thank you
01:13:44The guests
01:13:45that have been
01:13:45with us in the studio
01:13:47naturally
01:13:48Tg1
01:13:48will continue
01:13:50to keep you
01:13:50get informed
01:13:51with the next editions
01:13:54and with
01:13:54all the extraordinary
01:13:57what we will do tomorrow too
01:13:58Thank you
01:13:58and good evening
01:13:59Thank you
01:14:13Thank you
01:14:14Thank you
01:14:15Thank you
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