Il conduttore Giancarlo De Cataldo, con i filmati esterni realizzati da Elena Mandarano, ricorderà le indagini che hanno portato alla carcerazione del dottor Brega Massone, il chirurgo condannato per omicidio preterintenzionale per la morte di quattro pazienti, truffe al servizio sanitario nazionale, e circa 120 casi di lesioni, tra primo e secondo procedimento. Il 9 giugno 2008 vengono arrestati a Milano, tredici medici e il legale rappresentante della clinica Santa Rita. Una notizia deflagrante per la città e per l'Italia intera, perché le accuse a loro carico sono pesantissime: truffa ai danni dello Stato, falso ideologico, lesioni gravi e omicidio. Ma anche perché fa vacillare un principio garantito dalla nostra Costituzione, come quello alla salute, perché tradisce l'etica e la deontologia dell'arte medica, e soprattutto perché getta pesanti ombre nel rapporto tra di fiducia tra medico e paziente. La struttura sanitaria, giudicata per anni un fiore all'occhiello della sanità lombarda, diventa improvvisamente per tutti "la clinica degli orrori": un posto in cui i pazienti vengono considerati corpi da operare per massimizzare il profitto, e non persone da guarire.
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00:00:06A clinic of horrors, futile operations, cruelty, suspicious deaths, and scandal in Milan.
00:00:1214 arrests.
00:00:15The fact that people could also be treated in the Santa Rita clinic,
00:00:19It certainly wasn't the main purpose.
00:00:22The main goal was to make money.
00:00:25We had reasonable suspicions, but we never expected,
00:00:31a frankly somewhat gruesome picture.
00:00:35They've got one of the coolest ones we have,
00:00:39that when the notices of investigation arrived everyone was stunned
00:00:43because they say it doesn't seem to reach him who does the dirty things, the dirtyest things in the world.
00:00:49These were people who not only did not have to be operated on,
00:00:54but that they had to be let go.
00:01:00For us, the tumor was removed, we didn't think about the fact that there wasn't a tumor.
00:01:04That is, he removed pieces of lung, he actually made a stew of lungs.
00:01:10How come?
00:01:11At my age I'm so out of breath that I can't even run.
00:01:16With no other human being do you create an intimate relationship.
00:01:21To no other human being do you entrust your life.
00:01:32Good evening.
00:01:33This evening I'll tell you about a rather peculiar crime story.
00:01:38A story of medical malpractice, we could define it,
00:01:40but a story not of public but of private malpractice.
00:01:44It's the story of a surgeon who aspired to be the best of all,
00:01:50but with an eye on profit.
00:01:52It is a story of patients treated as bodies to be operated on and not healed.
00:01:58The surgeon's name was Pierpaolo Brega Massone.
00:02:02The story is set in Lombardy,
00:02:04in a clinic, the Santa Rita clinic,
00:02:07which at the time the chronicles defined as the clinic of horrors.
00:02:32You say Milan, Lombardy, Healthcare.
00:02:36So, you say, a well-known and established system of excellence.
00:02:42A series of places where people go to be treated.
00:02:47A jewel in the crown of Italy's most industrious and richest region.
00:02:54In the year our story begins,
00:02:57The Lombardy region's healthcare budget is 17 billion euros.
00:03:03Of these 17 billion euros,
00:03:07just under half ends up in the coffers of private institutions.
00:03:12It was in 2007 that we began to feel something was wrong with this story.
00:03:18Something about the Santa Rita clinic.
00:03:21Lots of money, but also a fair amount of illicit activity.
00:03:24But let's try to understand how this system works.
00:03:27Santa Rita is one of those clinics that were once called affiliated.
00:03:31It is a private law institution, a private clinic,
00:03:34a joint-stock company owned by a single owner.
00:03:38The notary Francesco Paolo Pipitone is the one who governs the clinic
00:03:42controlling all aspects and imposing strict productivity criteria.
00:03:49How does the Santa Rita clinic work?
00:03:52It works by providing services which are then put on the payroll
00:03:57of the National Health Service.
00:04:01In March 2006,
00:04:03an anonymous complaint reports to the Guardia di Finanza
00:04:07some critical issues of the Santa Rita clinic.
00:04:11Essentially, this anonymous complaint says,
00:04:14look, these guys are inflating the refunds.
00:04:18Basically, they charge for services that were not performed,
00:04:21writing that other services were carried out instead
00:04:24who get paid more.
00:04:27It's a mechanism that smacks of fraud.
00:04:30And the investigations begin.
00:04:34The investigation into Saint Rita must be included
00:04:39in a very complex line of investigation,
00:04:43of which we had very clear ideas
00:04:45about what we had to go looking for.
00:04:50The hypothesis was raised that through tricks and deceptions
00:04:55patients admitted to the nursing home
00:04:57were subjected to therapeutic treatments
00:05:01or surgical operations,
00:05:02different from those that were later reported
00:05:06and reimbursed by the National Health Service.
00:05:12We had understood that in reality
00:05:15what was being narrated
00:05:16he was worthy of great consideration,
00:05:19partly because the data
00:05:20they were definitely coming from an internal source,
00:05:24but then what was narrated
00:05:27it fit perfectly into the context of the investigations
00:05:30that we were doing.
00:05:35The Santarita Clinic in Milan
00:05:37it was a not very big clinic,
00:05:40belonged to a joint-stock company
00:05:42with a single member
00:05:43which was then, turned out to be,
00:05:45the real master himself,
00:05:46more than the manager,
00:05:47the real owner of this clinic,
00:05:49who was a notary called Pipitone.
00:05:51When I talk about master
00:05:52it's because the direction the notary gave
00:05:55at his clinic it was absolutely totalitarian,
00:05:59he directed, he chose
00:06:01and it had a very corporate character.
00:06:05Pipitone knows that if there is an honest person inside there
00:06:07It's me, do you understand?
00:06:09The problem is that anyway
00:06:10this story is a mess.
00:06:14The problem is that he has to understand
00:06:15which cannot bring in bandits to work
00:06:17which contribute to making us end up in the newspapers.
00:06:21The fact that in the Santa Rita clinic
00:06:23people could also be treated
00:06:25it was a fact that the notary did not object to,
00:06:27but that certainly wasn't the main purpose.
00:06:30The main goal was to make money.
00:06:33So he chose directly
00:06:36the doctors and heads of its departments.
00:06:38This says a lot
00:06:39on what the selection criteria were.
00:06:43There's no point in him backing out
00:06:45from responsibilities.
00:06:46He makes people come to work there.
00:06:49And as long as there were honest people
00:06:51nothing ever happened.
00:06:53Now some doctors are coming
00:06:54who are not to be reported for fraud.
00:06:57They are criminals
00:06:58and so goodnight musicians.
00:07:01What should a company do?
00:07:04He has to earn.
00:07:05So how does he make money?
00:07:08Increases the prices of the goods he sells,
00:07:11increase the prices of services.
00:07:14All this is not possible
00:07:16why in an accredited nursing home
00:07:19it's all predetermined by law.
00:07:22That is, how much is a performance worth?
00:07:24the law establishes it.
00:07:27So what can you do?
00:07:28if you can't increase
00:07:30the price of your service?
00:07:32What are you looking for?
00:07:33To increase the number of performances you perform.
00:07:37There is a basic text
00:07:39which regulates the relationship
00:07:41that we Italians have
00:07:42with the right to health.
00:07:44It is Article 32 of the Constitution.
00:07:47It establishes precisely
00:07:48that health is a right
00:07:50for all citizens
00:07:51as individuals
00:07:52but also and above all
00:07:54as members of the community.
00:07:56Private healthcare
00:07:57and public health.
00:07:59It is clear that it is a proposition
00:08:01beautiful and magnificent
00:08:02but it can only work
00:08:04if everyone does their job
00:08:06and carries it out to the end
00:08:08with correctness,
00:08:09with honor and dignity.
00:08:11Here, that's what he does
00:08:12the vast majority
00:08:13of Italian doctors
00:08:15in hospitals
00:08:15and in private facilities
00:08:17but every now and then,
00:08:18every now and again
00:08:19you meet someone
00:08:20who plays his role
00:08:21in a different way.
00:08:23For example,
00:08:24he asks you in return
00:08:25something more
00:08:26of what you are willing
00:08:28or by law you have to give.
00:08:30Of someone who considers you
00:08:32a kind of piggy bank
00:08:35the patient
00:08:36like a dispenser
00:08:38of sums
00:08:39the patient
00:08:39like someone
00:08:40to speculate on.
00:08:42This is it
00:08:42that emerges
00:08:43very quietly
00:08:44from the investigations
00:08:45some of which
00:08:46involve
00:08:47the Santa Rita clinic.
00:08:53It has been decided
00:08:55in July 2007
00:08:56to acquire
00:08:59medical records.
00:09:01at first glance
00:09:03we realized
00:09:03that there were
00:09:04of health services
00:09:06very profitable
00:09:07that came
00:09:08carried out
00:09:09from the Santa Rita nursing home
00:09:10and that other health facilities
00:09:12they just didn't know
00:09:13they didn't have them
00:09:13almost taken into consideration.
00:09:17But not only that
00:09:17we realized
00:09:19that in the department
00:09:21functional rehabilitation
00:09:23the data was
00:09:24even more striking.
00:09:27we did
00:09:28a numerical calculation
00:09:29in the department
00:09:30of rehabilitation
00:09:31refunds are made
00:09:32not for service rendered
00:09:33but day by day
00:09:34per day of hospitalization.
00:09:36The beds
00:09:37accredited
00:09:38with the national health system
00:09:40there were 24
00:09:41we multiplied them
00:09:42for the number of days
00:09:43and he went out
00:09:448,000 days.
00:09:45Actually
00:09:46the nursing home
00:09:46he had asked for them
00:09:4720,000.
00:09:51there is the performance
00:09:52that is administered to you
00:09:55which is a performance
00:09:56of hospitalization
00:09:57then it opens
00:09:58the medical record
00:09:59and it closes
00:09:59the medical record
00:10:00and the region
00:10:02the health service
00:10:04refund
00:10:04that performance.
00:10:07After this performance
00:10:09you need
00:10:10maybe a little
00:10:10of rehabilitation
00:10:11which however comes
00:10:13paid separately.
00:10:15After two days
00:10:17from the intervention
00:10:17when you still have
00:10:18the pipes
00:10:20the drainages
00:10:21you really are
00:10:23but reduced
00:10:24for the intervention
00:10:25important
00:10:25that you suffered
00:10:26you are sent
00:10:27in rehabilitation.
00:10:30The patients
00:10:31in this transfer
00:10:33from a department
00:10:34to the other
00:10:34they didn't move
00:10:35the bed
00:10:36in medical records
00:10:37it was the same
00:10:37and the doctors
00:10:39in some cases
00:10:40those who followed him
00:10:41they were the same
00:10:41of the acute care department
00:10:42then the transfer
00:10:43in rehabilitation
00:10:44it was just fictional.
00:10:47but
00:10:48at this point
00:10:50it's another medical record
00:10:51you formally
00:10:52you belong to another department
00:10:54to the rehabilitation department
00:10:56at that point
00:10:57you get worse
00:10:58it's certain that you will get worse
00:10:59on the other hand
00:11:00they tried
00:11:01to rehabilitate yourself
00:11:03when you still had
00:11:04all the hanging pipes
00:11:06so it's obvious
00:11:06that makes you worse
00:11:07and at that point
00:11:08come again
00:11:10hospitalized
00:11:11one more time
00:11:12in the acute department
00:11:13you got worse
00:11:14they will have to take care of you
00:11:15close the folder
00:11:17reopen the folder
00:11:17close the folder
00:11:18reopen the folder
00:11:19refunds became
00:11:21two, three, four
00:11:23they multiplied
00:11:26at the Santa Rita clinic
00:11:27they are scamming
00:11:28public bodies
00:11:30for millions of euros
00:11:31but this still
00:11:32in this first phase
00:11:33of the investigations
00:11:34it is not known
00:11:35what is known
00:11:37is that you are entering
00:11:39in a world
00:11:39made of numbers
00:11:41of combinations
00:11:42between the number
00:11:43the patient
00:11:45the doctor
00:11:45the pathologies
00:11:46the codes
00:11:47In short
00:11:48healthcare
00:11:49which must
00:11:50rectors
00:11:51but there are many things
00:11:53that don't come back
00:11:54for example
00:11:54the Santa Rita clinic
00:11:56it appears from the numbers
00:11:58that emerge
00:11:58from 4,000
00:11:59medical records
00:12:01seized
00:12:01and medical records
00:12:03of various years
00:12:04of management
00:12:05the clinic appears
00:12:07oversized
00:12:08compared to other hospitals
00:12:09to other structures
00:12:10bigger ones
00:12:11many possible beds
00:12:13many possible interventions
00:12:16and this is the first clue
00:12:17but then there is also
00:12:18another clue
00:12:19in rehabilitation departments
00:12:22fortunately
00:12:23we don't die that much
00:12:24Well
00:12:24to Saint Rita
00:12:25we die more
00:12:26in proportion
00:12:27than in all the others
00:12:28rehabilitation departments
00:12:30of Lombardy
00:12:31out of 569 deaths
00:12:34as many as 74
00:12:35in this clinic
00:12:36which is of considerable size
00:12:38but it's not
00:12:38the largest clinic
00:12:39and this is precisely
00:12:40it's the second clue
00:12:42that's what drives
00:12:43the investigators
00:12:43to move forward
00:12:49ready?
00:12:51Dr. Scarponi
00:12:52Good morning
00:12:52I'm Stefania
00:12:53HI
00:12:53last Friday
00:12:55it was opened
00:12:57erroneously
00:12:58during positioning
00:13:00of a nail
00:13:01Long PFN
00:13:02a laterality
00:13:04of nail
00:13:05wrong
00:13:06left
00:13:07instead of the right one
00:13:08we the reasonable ones
00:13:11suspicions
00:13:12they were
00:13:14on an activity
00:13:15a little bit
00:13:16predatory
00:13:17but we wouldn't be there
00:13:19never expected
00:13:20that the first day
00:13:22with the first interception
00:13:24it revealed itself
00:13:25a painting
00:13:26frankly
00:13:27a little creepy
00:13:29Nobody
00:13:29he touched it
00:13:30with gloves
00:13:31dirty
00:13:32of blood
00:13:33but
00:13:33there is a dispute
00:13:35why sterilization
00:13:36he can't do it
00:13:37to re-sterilize
00:13:38why they arrive
00:13:39in the package
00:13:39sterile
00:13:40the synthesis
00:13:41I just spoke to him
00:13:42he won't take it back from me
00:13:44we regret it
00:13:45Stefania
00:13:45but Baptist
00:13:46it doesn't sterilize it for you
00:13:48what is it that you regret
00:13:49if you want to talk
00:13:50you with Battista
00:13:50I've already talked to him
00:13:51well sure
00:13:52Baptist
00:13:52he'll punch it out
00:13:53I said
00:13:55only in Philippi
00:13:56be careful
00:13:58When do you open
00:13:59one thing
00:13:59because it costs
00:14:01455 euros
00:14:02plus VAT
00:14:03me if you want
00:14:04under my responsibility
00:14:05I regretted it
00:14:06right away
00:14:07in any patient
00:14:08I understand
00:14:09but if Battista
00:14:10it doesn't sterilize it
00:14:11if the patient
00:14:1290 years old
00:14:1395 years old
00:14:14has a very short
00:14:15life expectancy
00:14:16At that time
00:14:17I did it
00:14:18the same speech
00:14:19between me
00:14:19I said
00:14:19well a patient
00:14:20he is very old
00:14:21all in all
00:14:22you could also
00:14:2390 years old
00:14:24we have every day
00:14:27it had actually been
00:14:28implanted
00:14:29to an 86-year-old
00:14:35it seems to me
00:14:35that he had had
00:14:37numerous infections
00:14:39After
00:14:39with others
00:14:40hospitalizations
00:14:41for infections
00:14:43post-operative
00:14:44Therefore
00:14:46I am trying to say
00:14:46not free
00:14:48they didn't hide
00:14:51this primary
00:14:53of orthopedics
00:14:54that he said
00:14:55with great clarity
00:14:55but yes
00:14:56the nail
00:14:57non-sterile
00:14:58but I planted it
00:14:59but so much
00:14:59there in a little while
00:15:00he dies anyway
00:15:01Therefore
00:15:01it's not thrown away
00:15:03a thing
00:15:03what does it cost?
00:15:04three or four hundred euros
00:15:063 or four hundred euros
00:15:08human life
00:15:10she on one side
00:15:12puts science and conscience together
00:15:13on the other hand there is the god of money
00:15:17they are not compatible
00:15:20and therefore
00:15:21to this poor man
00:15:23elderly
00:15:24and sick
00:15:24they put
00:15:26a nail
00:15:27unsterilized
00:15:28the nail
00:15:29as was largely predictable
00:15:31gets infected
00:15:31the man returns
00:15:33seven times
00:15:34in the clinic
00:15:34and dies
00:15:35after seven months
00:15:37Well
00:15:37the wiretaps
00:15:39that they catch
00:15:41very much on the mark
00:15:42and of which
00:15:43much was discussed
00:15:44at the time
00:15:45reveal a real system
00:15:48in which
00:15:48it's not so much
00:15:50the patient's health
00:15:52in the center
00:15:53of the decision
00:15:55to put a piece
00:15:56replace it
00:15:57change it
00:15:57but the profitability
00:15:59of that single piece
00:16:00the relationship
00:16:01with the lending institution
00:16:03so with
00:16:03the health company
00:16:05local
00:16:06In short
00:16:06a
00:16:07triumph
00:16:08of the law
00:16:09of the market
00:16:10with ignorance
00:16:12total
00:16:12of health
00:16:13it's a system
00:16:14of a clinic
00:16:15but who knows
00:16:15in how many others
00:16:16then it will have been
00:16:17also highlighted
00:16:20at the same time
00:16:22independently
00:16:23the ASL
00:16:24intervenes
00:16:26on another department
00:16:27of Saint Rita
00:16:29the department
00:16:29of thoracic surgery
00:16:30it's just
00:16:31the department
00:16:32of the doctor
00:16:32Brega Mason
00:16:33here
00:16:34emerge
00:16:35seven cases
00:16:36of interventions
00:16:37of thoracic surgery
00:16:38which concern
00:16:39patients
00:16:39affections
00:16:40from TBC
00:16:41tuberculosis
00:16:42not only
00:16:42it has not been done
00:16:43screening
00:16:44but they are also
00:16:45been made
00:16:45of the interventions
00:16:46useless
00:16:46if not harmful
00:16:47at this point
00:16:49the department
00:16:49it is closed
00:16:50the accreditation
00:16:51of the clinic
00:16:52towards
00:16:53of that department
00:16:53is removed
00:16:54and the doctor
00:16:55Brega Mason
00:16:55suspended
00:17:00there had been
00:17:01in relation
00:17:02to the department
00:17:03of thoracic surgery
00:17:04a dispute
00:17:06by
00:17:08of some doctors
00:17:09that they had noticed
00:17:11that the doctor
00:17:13Brega Mason
00:17:14had operated
00:17:16of the subjects
00:17:17affections
00:17:18from TBC
00:17:20we realize
00:17:22of this thing
00:17:23incredibly
00:17:24because we were
00:17:26performing
00:17:26of wiretaps
00:17:27telephone
00:17:30it happened
00:17:32a brothel
00:17:32crazy
00:17:33in the sense
00:17:33that we are finished
00:17:34again
00:17:35in the newspapers
00:17:35as usual
00:17:37speech
00:17:37of the scam
00:17:39reconnecting
00:17:40to that
00:17:40of July
00:17:41they have cheated
00:17:42one of the most
00:17:43stinking
00:17:44that we have
00:17:45that when
00:17:46they arrived
00:17:47the notices
00:17:47of guarantee
00:17:48everyone was
00:17:48stunned
00:17:49because they say
00:17:49do you think?
00:17:50that really
00:17:50to him
00:17:50what does he do
00:17:51the filth
00:17:52more filth
00:17:53of the world
00:17:54he doesn't get it
00:17:56normally
00:17:57there's a little bit
00:17:58of spirit
00:17:58team
00:17:59the ase is coming
00:18:00which closes
00:18:01a department
00:18:01if only for nothing else
00:18:02that for the damage
00:18:03of image
00:18:04induced
00:18:05the other doctors
00:18:06in general
00:18:07they rise
00:18:08a bit
00:18:09in defense
00:18:09of the structure
00:18:10in this case
00:18:13we hear
00:18:15comments
00:18:16unspeakable
00:18:17what are they doing to us?
00:18:17to ask
00:18:18but what's happening
00:18:19in the department
00:18:20of thoracic surgery
00:18:21this one here
00:18:22he operated
00:18:24a boy
00:18:25he is a thoracic
00:18:28he operated
00:18:29a boy
00:18:30which must have had
00:18:31a PNX
00:18:32I can't tell you
00:18:33then he discharged him
00:18:35This
00:18:37he was sick
00:18:38the doctor
00:18:39he sent it
00:18:40at Marelli
00:18:41at Marelli
00:18:42they found him
00:18:42TB
00:18:44this was already
00:18:45went to school
00:18:46and it has infested
00:18:47the class
00:18:47but the problem
00:18:49is that
00:18:50they discovered
00:18:51in this way
00:18:51investigating
00:18:52on this case
00:18:53that he
00:18:54did not perform
00:18:55the protocols
00:18:57for tuberculosis
00:18:58Meaning what
00:18:59one goes to him
00:19:00he doesn't do it
00:19:00a minimum
00:19:01of investigation
00:19:02they discovered
00:19:03which operated
00:19:04that is, everything
00:19:05what he was doing
00:19:06he passed it on
00:19:06for cancer
00:19:07from the behavior
00:19:08uncertain
00:19:08so one
00:19:10who had
00:19:10a tuberculoma
00:19:12he was paid
00:19:1320,000 euros
00:19:14like a tumor
00:19:15the problem
00:19:16it's that in the newspapers
00:19:17they spoke
00:19:18of fraud
00:19:19but in reality
00:19:20it's much more serious
00:19:21why this
00:19:22risks being
00:19:23suspended
00:19:24from the register
00:19:25and then
00:19:26above all
00:19:26who knows the people
00:19:27who sent
00:19:28around
00:19:30Therefore
00:19:30they are all
00:19:32overturned
00:19:33why this time
00:19:33it's heavy
00:19:36there is another one
00:19:38interception
00:19:38very important
00:19:39which is that
00:19:40Between
00:19:41the professor
00:19:42Legnani
00:19:42who was appointed
00:19:44consultant
00:19:44from Pipitone
00:19:45in the moment
00:19:46in which
00:19:46the ASL
00:19:47suspended
00:19:47accreditation
00:19:49of surgery
00:19:50thoracic
00:19:51and it is
00:19:52while speaking
00:19:53with who
00:19:53he had given him
00:19:54the assignment
00:19:54he basically tells him
00:19:55the position
00:19:56it is indefensible
00:19:57because there is one
00:19:58continues
00:19:58race
00:19:59to the operation
00:20:00even when
00:20:01there is no
00:20:01no need
00:20:02and no urgency
00:20:03ready
00:20:05Good morning
00:20:06he is the professor
00:20:08Legnani
00:20:08who speaks
00:20:09Dr. Pipitone
00:20:09ah professor
00:20:10good to say
00:20:10I tell myself
00:20:11listen
00:20:12I'm done
00:20:12Now
00:20:13to review
00:20:13all documentation
00:20:15it's incredible
00:20:17Here you are
00:20:19maybe it was better
00:20:19let's see each other
00:20:20from living voices
00:20:21and I'll explain to you
00:20:21some things
00:20:22because aside
00:20:23two or three houses
00:20:24which are normal
00:20:25that of the urinary tract
00:20:26that of the ENT specialist
00:20:27which have been conducted
00:20:28in the correct manner
00:20:29in these
00:20:31pipelines
00:20:32in surgery
00:20:32thoracic
00:20:33there is always
00:20:34a preview
00:20:35of the intervention
00:20:36compared to the wait
00:20:36and answers
00:20:38there is none
00:20:39anamnesi
00:20:40that is, she put
00:20:41the disc
00:20:41the plague
00:20:42perfectly
00:20:43Meaning what
00:20:43what need does he have
00:20:44the patient does not run away
00:20:45it's not that he dies
00:20:46tomorrow morning
00:20:47or this afternoon
00:20:48if you don't intervene
00:20:49he doesn't understand
00:20:50this is the problem
00:20:51and then above all
00:20:53monothematism
00:20:54of diagnostic access
00:20:55it can't be done
00:20:56to everyone
00:20:57thoracotomy
00:20:57to go and see
00:20:58what does he have
00:20:59it's the last stage
00:21:00it's the last step
00:21:01it's not the first
00:21:04here we begin
00:21:05to go further
00:21:06the limits of the scam
00:21:07which is also a serious crime
00:21:09when it has these dimensions
00:21:10here it is hypothesized
00:21:11that someone comes in
00:21:13with a certain pathology
00:21:14and be treated
00:21:15for something
00:21:15which does not have
00:21:16at health risk
00:21:17at risk too
00:21:18of life
00:21:19Brega Mason
00:21:21begins to feel
00:21:22in the crosshairs
00:21:24as they say
00:21:26and then
00:21:27he gets a little nervous
00:21:28asks the assistants
00:21:29to make disappear
00:21:30of the plates
00:21:31he works hard
00:21:32to delete
00:21:33of hard disks
00:21:35of computers
00:21:37and at this point
00:21:38it comes a little
00:21:39curiosity
00:21:40to question oneself
00:21:40on this personality
00:21:42by Brega Mason
00:21:44who is this surgeon?
00:21:45undoubtedly valuable
00:21:47who boasts
00:21:48to accomplish
00:21:49400 surgical interventions
00:21:52in a year
00:21:52there are so many
00:21:53more than one intervention
00:21:54per day
00:21:55that in a text message
00:21:56it defines itself
00:21:58arsenium
00:21:59Liupin
00:22:00of surgery
00:22:01or the largest
00:22:03living surgeon
00:22:10the doctor
00:22:12Pierpaolo Brega Freemason
00:22:13he was a surgeon
00:22:15very well established
00:22:16and highly rated
00:22:17in Milan
00:22:20Certainly
00:22:21even when
00:22:22he started
00:22:22to operate
00:22:23at the clinic
00:22:24Saint Rita
00:22:25he was a doctor
00:22:28young
00:22:28but he was a doctor
00:22:30already very experienced
00:22:31with already
00:22:32a background
00:22:35compound
00:22:36from numerous
00:22:36surgical interventions
00:22:38he didn't have
00:22:39another thought
00:22:40in the head
00:22:41that his patients
00:22:42and surgical interventions
00:22:44which had to
00:22:45to execute
00:22:47he had of himself
00:22:48the opinion
00:22:49to be
00:22:50a great surgeon
00:22:50and they don't know
00:22:53that I am more
00:22:53a good surgeon
00:22:55of the world
00:22:55the best surgeon
00:22:56of the world
00:22:56he says in a wiretap
00:22:58himself
00:22:58it defines itself like this
00:22:59I am 42 years old
00:23:01I'm younger
00:23:01surgeon
00:23:02from the
00:23:03let's say
00:23:04primary school
00:23:04of thoracic surgery
00:23:05and there is someone
00:23:06to which evidently
00:23:07in that position
00:23:08it's annoying
00:23:09the personality
00:23:10by Brega Mason
00:23:11it's not easy
00:23:12to be defined
00:23:13because there isn't
00:23:14a single Brega Mason
00:23:15you heard talking
00:23:17with the victim
00:23:18persuasive
00:23:19then you felt
00:23:20the interception
00:23:21it can't be
00:23:23the same person
00:23:23there is the Brega Mason
00:23:25that we see
00:23:27with patients
00:23:28always persuasive
00:23:30always calm
00:23:31always calm
00:23:32there is the Brega Mason
00:23:34that we have listened to
00:23:35Always
00:23:36the wiretaps
00:23:37who has it
00:23:37with colleagues
00:23:38Brega Mason
00:23:39arrogant
00:23:40opinionated
00:23:41a small lump
00:23:43they wait three months
00:23:44and he does an attack again
00:23:45he had already done it
00:23:47At that time
00:23:47listen to me
00:23:48that is, let's not go into this
00:23:49because if you want to put
00:23:50my last name
00:23:51and see what I posted
00:23:52you can see it easily
00:23:53but look
00:23:53the publication
00:23:54gives practically
00:23:56of himself
00:23:57a portrait
00:23:58exaggeratedly
00:24:00important
00:24:01as a surgeon
00:24:03personal statement
00:24:05and the career
00:24:05for the doctor
00:24:06Pierpaolo Brega Freemason
00:24:07as for any
00:24:09human being
00:24:10Obviously
00:24:11it had its own importance
00:24:12but his ambitions
00:24:14they weren't that much
00:24:15those
00:24:15career
00:24:18those were those
00:24:19to be able to
00:24:19say
00:24:20to have saved
00:24:22as many lives as possible
00:24:25let's stop here
00:24:26I'm waiting for you
00:24:27after a short break
00:24:28to continue
00:24:29to tell you
00:24:29the story
00:24:30of the doctor
00:24:31Brega Mason
00:24:32and of the clinic
00:24:33of horrors
00:24:39a doctor
00:24:40who wants to save
00:24:41the largest number
00:24:42possible
00:24:42of human lives
00:24:43a doctor
00:24:44the doctor
00:24:45by definition
00:24:46has a great power
00:24:47on health
00:24:48of human beings
00:24:49it is
00:24:49the lord
00:24:50at that moment
00:24:52I believe that
00:24:53many of us
00:24:54who are profane
00:24:56have always been
00:24:57fascinated
00:24:58from the figure
00:24:58of the doctor
00:24:59for this reason of his
00:25:00trade
00:25:01continuous
00:25:02with the body
00:25:02precisely for this reason
00:25:03candies
00:25:04towards
00:25:05of the body
00:25:06we asked
00:25:06an opinion
00:25:07on personality
00:25:09and the figure
00:25:09not the doctor's
00:25:11Brega Mason
00:25:11of the doctor
00:25:12of how it can be done
00:25:13interpret
00:25:14the role of the doctor
00:25:15and we asked for it
00:25:16to an expert
00:25:17the psychiatrist
00:25:18Professor Stefano Ferracuti
00:25:24reading the sentences
00:25:26of the case
00:25:27Brega Mason
00:25:27I stayed
00:25:29deeply
00:25:31hit
00:25:31and a little bit too
00:25:32troubled
00:25:33from the level
00:25:34of dehumanization
00:25:36of reification
00:25:37that this group
00:25:39of people
00:25:39has implemented
00:25:40Why
00:25:41actually
00:25:42while
00:25:43then the sentences
00:25:44identify
00:25:45in a purpose
00:25:46economic
00:25:47it's also true
00:25:49That
00:25:50to implement
00:25:51pipelines
00:25:52with that level
00:25:54Of
00:25:55harmfulness
00:25:56towards
00:25:58of patients
00:25:59you ask yourself
00:26:00How much
00:26:01in all that
00:26:02which was implemented
00:26:03if it weren't also
00:26:04determined
00:26:05from feelings
00:26:06of omnipotence
00:26:07among the factors
00:26:09which may have
00:26:10contributed
00:26:12to determine
00:26:13these behaviors
00:26:15the initial ambition
00:26:17of a person
00:26:18capable
00:26:19of a person
00:26:20intelligent
00:26:21it can be transformed
00:26:23easily
00:26:24in pride
00:26:25And
00:26:27pride
00:26:28the hubris
00:26:29in the end
00:26:30it involves
00:26:31the loss
00:26:33of the sense
00:26:33of the limit
00:26:38However
00:26:39it is not
00:26:39the only one
00:26:40mechanism
00:26:41the people
00:26:42around him
00:26:43somehow
00:26:44they must have
00:26:46agreed
00:26:46to this one
00:26:47prospect
00:26:48for which
00:26:48they must
00:26:48it was created
00:26:49a group
00:26:50because then
00:26:50take into account
00:26:51that we
00:26:52we are talking
00:26:52of an equipment
00:26:54surgical
00:26:55we are talking
00:26:55of a group
00:26:56of people
00:26:57that I am
00:26:58strongly
00:26:58interconnected
00:26:59among themselves
00:27:00because they do it
00:27:01an activity
00:27:02professional
00:27:03of extreme
00:27:04complexity
00:27:05Where
00:27:05there is
00:27:06necessarily
00:27:08need
00:27:09of all
00:27:11Surely
00:27:12a group
00:27:13thus constituted
00:27:15that is to say
00:27:16a group
00:27:16where did you
00:27:17a personality
00:27:18dominant
00:27:19with respect to which
00:27:21everyone
00:27:22they tend
00:27:22to comply
00:27:24can take
00:27:26of the characteristics
00:27:27for which
00:27:27it polarizes
00:27:28even more
00:27:29and polarizing
00:27:31even more
00:27:32as is widely known
00:27:33known
00:27:34from psychology
00:27:35social
00:27:35becomes
00:27:36progressively
00:27:37more irrational
00:27:38and progressively
00:27:40more extremist
00:27:43the relationship
00:27:44of every human being
00:27:45with your own body
00:27:46with health
00:27:47it's the most
00:27:47complex
00:27:48and delicate
00:27:49one can imagine
00:27:50we all know it
00:27:51because everyone
00:27:51we've been there
00:27:53and if we don't have it
00:27:53still done
00:27:54we will pass by
00:27:55one or more times
00:27:56in life
00:27:57how many times
00:27:58we asked ourselves
00:27:58the alternative
00:27:59I'm putting myself on the list
00:28:00of waiting
00:28:01I'm waiting
00:28:02I'm waiting for the times
00:28:04of public health
00:28:05or
00:28:05I'm taking the shortcut
00:28:06of private healthcare
00:28:07who can afford it
00:28:09who can't afford it
00:28:10sometimes
00:28:11he felt
00:28:12dramatically say
00:28:13Certain
00:28:14here in the hospital
00:28:15we will take care of you
00:28:16but paying something
00:28:17in a private clinic
00:28:18I could be treated better
00:28:20but here
00:28:20in the case of Saint Rita
00:28:22we are going
00:28:23beyond all this
00:28:24we are talking
00:28:25of interventions
00:28:26that made no sense
00:28:27we are talking
00:28:28of repeated damages
00:28:29and continue
00:28:30to your health
00:28:31of the sick
00:28:39acquired medical records
00:28:41we showed it
00:28:43a small number
00:28:44to a general practitioner
00:28:47which moreover
00:28:48had had
00:28:49a great experience
00:28:50also as a general surgeon
00:28:51this first consultant
00:28:56very alarmed
00:28:57he informed us
00:29:00of the circumstance
00:29:00what to say
00:29:01in that clinic
00:29:02were operated on
00:29:03people
00:29:05that they didn't need
00:29:06to be operated on
00:29:07it was about in particular
00:29:09of breast surgeries
00:29:11interventions on the thoracic tracts
00:29:14and thoracic surgery interventions
00:29:16At first it seemed impossible to us
00:29:20and so we decided
00:29:22to follow a criterion
00:29:24extremely cautious
00:29:26we have appointed
00:29:28of the specialists
00:29:31at the national level
00:29:32and I would dare say worldwide
00:29:33of thoracic surgery
00:29:35of senology
00:29:36and pulmonology
00:29:39they couldn't believe it
00:29:41rather initially
00:29:43the first reaction
00:29:46it was that it had to
00:29:47a mistake
00:29:48that it was not possible
00:29:49that there were
00:29:52situations like those
00:29:53which were described
00:29:54hand
00:29:56then in the end
00:29:58they confirmed it to us
00:30:00that these interventions
00:30:02they had been made
00:30:03uselessly
00:30:05in the sense
00:30:06that had been
00:30:06taken
00:30:08pieces of lung
00:30:11breast pieces
00:30:13healthy
00:30:15or
00:30:15without any need
00:30:18you're not coming here
00:30:19to be the primary
00:30:21maybe they didn't explain it to him well
00:30:22here you have to do the DRT
00:30:25that is, you have to
00:30:26Anyway
00:30:27have patients
00:30:28if you don't have them
00:30:29what the fuck are you doing?
00:30:30live with the 80 patients
00:30:32in a year
00:30:32that passes you by
00:30:33emergency room
00:30:34of which maybe 10
00:30:35now you can't operate on them anymore
00:30:36because they are all TPG
00:30:37the doctor
00:30:39Freemason brega
00:30:39ran in the number
00:30:41of the interventions
00:30:43it was made a point of pride
00:30:45I just want to point out
00:30:47that any intervention
00:30:50on the lung
00:30:52Unfortunately
00:30:53in our cases
00:30:54not necessary
00:30:55a sportation
00:30:57it brought 11 thousand euros
00:30:59corresponded
00:31:00a DRG
00:31:00of 11 thousand euros
00:31:02Therefore
00:31:02the intervention
00:31:04to the lung
00:31:05era
00:31:05I am sorry
00:31:07use
00:31:08this term
00:31:09out of respect
00:31:10in patients
00:31:11but for the doctor
00:31:12Freemason brega
00:31:12it was very appetizing
00:31:15it was very appetizing
00:31:17because it allowed him
00:31:19self-gain
00:31:20Meaning what
00:31:21do the calculation
00:31:23I calculated my DRG
00:31:25on 400 patients
00:31:26the year
00:31:26these things are trampling on him
00:31:28on 70 patients
00:31:29who pays presidents
00:31:30who pays bread in the evening
00:31:31oh yes of course
00:31:32Yes
00:31:33these are waiting
00:31:34chest trauma
00:31:35but of chest trauma
00:31:37they'll come to you
00:31:385 in one year
00:31:39but even if they reach you
00:31:415
00:31:41do the calculation
00:31:42it's 70 thousand euros
00:31:43the order
00:31:44in a year
00:31:46Meaning what
00:31:46I am trying to say
00:31:47I
00:31:47it opens like this
00:31:51another
00:31:51vast vein
00:31:52of investigation
00:31:53in the meantime
00:31:54to the clinic
00:31:55Sainthood
00:31:56they have their own
00:31:57good problems
00:31:58infected nails
00:31:59lungs
00:32:00closed departments
00:32:01accreditation block
00:32:03in the region
00:32:04the PMs
00:32:05they keep digging
00:32:06and they come out
00:32:07other things
00:32:08someone
00:32:08really disturbing
00:32:14he collaborated
00:32:16with
00:32:17with external structures
00:32:18the LIT
00:32:19she is a member of parliament
00:32:20prevention
00:32:21own
00:32:21of tumors
00:32:23feminine
00:32:25but
00:32:26the purpose
00:32:27it wasn't
00:32:28offer
00:32:29his services
00:32:31in a countryside
00:32:32of prevention
00:32:33that convinced him
00:32:34but
00:32:35because that
00:32:36it was a basin
00:32:37of users
00:32:37where they fished
00:32:38easily
00:32:41I
00:32:42I met
00:32:45in 2003
00:32:47I feel this
00:32:48nodule
00:32:49but
00:32:50he made me
00:32:51an ultrasound
00:32:52what I was doing
00:32:52Always
00:32:53before going
00:32:53from him
00:32:54and nothing
00:32:55he told me
00:32:55which was a fiber
00:32:56name
00:32:57tumor
00:32:57benign
00:32:58but that
00:32:59how could he
00:33:01grow
00:33:01he could also
00:33:02change nature
00:33:02therefore
00:33:03according to him
00:33:03it was right
00:33:04pull it away
00:33:06and prescribe it to me immediately
00:33:07the intervention
00:33:08what I did
00:33:12in December
00:33:13to Saint Rita
00:33:15I discovered
00:33:16that I have been
00:33:17operated
00:33:17uselessly
00:33:19That
00:33:20practically
00:33:21I had nothing
00:33:22he didn't do it
00:33:23things
00:33:24routine
00:33:25that in this case
00:33:26it should be done
00:33:27a mammogram
00:33:28or a needle aspirate
00:33:29Meaning what
00:33:30he was going
00:33:31directly
00:33:31to the intervention
00:33:32he knew
00:33:33of my children
00:33:36Why
00:33:37once
00:33:37I told him
00:33:37face
00:33:38what he has to do
00:33:39when he
00:33:39he told me
00:33:39of the intervention
00:33:40the important thing
00:33:41is that
00:33:43they do not transform
00:33:44in a cancer
00:33:44because I have
00:33:45of the children
00:33:45to grow
00:33:48you
00:33:48exploits
00:33:50fear
00:33:50of cancer
00:33:51and then
00:33:52you fit in
00:33:54And
00:33:54to this fear
00:33:56underlying
00:33:57you add
00:33:58a small load
00:33:59show me
00:34:00that this fear
00:34:01it wasn't
00:34:01totally
00:34:02dismissed
00:34:02of foundation
00:34:03but what
00:34:04you
00:34:04subject
00:34:06you can trust
00:34:07why are you
00:34:07the doctor
00:34:09you can intervene
00:34:11you can do
00:34:13whatever you want
00:34:13the people
00:34:14he's scared
00:34:15to die
00:34:16he leaves
00:34:17Do
00:34:18anything
00:34:20but I
00:34:21I was fishing
00:34:22everywhere
00:34:22from Lodi
00:34:23where I was going
00:34:24to make breasts
00:34:24which I then started
00:34:25to fish
00:34:26the lungs too
00:34:27from beyond
00:34:28Popavese
00:34:29from Pavia
00:34:30from Milan
00:34:32at this point
00:34:33the doctor
00:34:34Pierpaolo
00:34:34Brega
00:34:34Freemason
00:34:35as often
00:34:37it happens
00:34:37to anyone
00:34:38about us
00:34:39above all
00:34:39when the
00:34:40conversations
00:34:41they come
00:34:41entertained
00:34:42with colleagues
00:34:43he let himself go
00:34:45to some interviews
00:34:46free
00:34:47Certainly
00:34:49Also
00:34:50fed
00:34:51through
00:34:51phrases
00:34:52improper
00:34:53terms
00:34:54unpleasant
00:34:55statements
00:34:57above
00:34:58the lines
00:34:58but
00:35:00it was about
00:35:02Alone
00:35:03and exclusively
00:35:04of interviews
00:35:06with colleagues
00:35:07entertained
00:35:08on the phone
00:35:09in which
00:35:10I repeat
00:35:11as often
00:35:11it happens
00:35:12above all
00:35:12among colleagues
00:35:13how it happens
00:35:14even between
00:35:14lawyers
00:35:15we make theater
00:35:20The lawyer
00:35:21Sideboard
00:35:21he doesn't have all
00:35:22the wrongs
00:35:23in conversations
00:35:24private
00:35:24we let ourselves go
00:35:26who hasn't experienced it?
00:35:27but
00:35:28in this case
00:35:29the wiretaps
00:35:30they have references
00:35:32very precise
00:35:33the breasts
00:35:34the lungs
00:35:36and here we are talking
00:35:37of organs
00:35:39and whose
00:35:39market
00:35:41we can say it
00:35:41calmly
00:35:42feeds
00:35:43the wallet
00:35:45that is, we are talking
00:35:47of something
00:35:48which is a lot
00:35:49Very
00:35:49distant
00:35:50from this
00:35:51what is expected
00:35:52on an ethical level
00:35:53when you enter
00:35:54in contact
00:35:55with the system
00:35:56health care
00:35:57and let's stop
00:35:59one moment here
00:36:00and we come back
00:36:01on this point
00:36:02of the system
00:36:03health care
00:36:03Before
00:36:04we talked about it
00:36:05from the point of view
00:36:06of the user
00:36:07of the sick
00:36:08of those who see
00:36:09questioned
00:36:10your own health
00:36:11of fragility
00:36:12also that manifests
00:36:13but also for those who
00:36:14he handles the thing
00:36:15public
00:36:16the cure
00:36:18of health
00:36:19public
00:36:19it's one of the tasks
00:36:20more arduous
00:36:21and more difficult
00:36:22that they can be
00:36:22imagine
00:36:23precisely because
00:36:24exposes you
00:36:24to these problems
00:36:26to problems
00:36:26of an ethical nature
00:36:27to problems
00:36:28of order
00:36:29material
00:36:29to problems
00:36:30of order
00:36:31economic
00:36:32and financial
00:36:32but also
00:36:33above all
00:36:33to problems
00:36:34of conscience
00:36:35we asked
00:36:36the opinion
00:36:37to Rosy Bindi
00:36:38who was a minister
00:36:39of health
00:36:40one of the ministers
00:36:40by many
00:36:42much appreciated
00:36:43from others
00:36:44highly contested
00:36:50the health system
00:36:52it's a
00:36:53we could define it
00:36:54a market
00:36:55asymmetrical
00:36:56Why
00:36:57who asks
00:36:58Health
00:36:59he is the citizen
00:37:00needy
00:37:01of care
00:37:02and on the other side
00:37:04There are
00:37:04those
00:37:05that offer
00:37:06the drugs
00:37:08the technologies
00:37:09the performances
00:37:10medical
00:37:10and we talk
00:37:12of a market
00:37:13asymmetrical
00:37:14precisely because
00:37:14who asks
00:37:15he is weak
00:37:16and who offers
00:37:17it's very strong
00:37:21the case
00:37:22Saint Rita
00:37:23like many
00:37:24other cases
00:37:25that happened
00:37:26it's the proof
00:37:27That
00:37:27the system
00:37:29health care
00:37:30need
00:37:31of a
00:37:31programming
00:37:32we have
00:37:34a system
00:37:34in which
00:37:35it is expected
00:37:36participation
00:37:37of the private
00:37:38the private
00:37:39has a goal
00:37:40legitimate
00:37:42he is an entrepreneur
00:37:43and has as its end
00:37:45that of making a profit
00:37:47but to make a profit
00:37:48on health
00:37:50of the citizens
00:37:51we should also say
00:37:53on the disease
00:37:54of the citizens
00:37:55definitely needs
00:37:57of a great control
00:37:58by
00:37:58of the public system
00:38:01actually
00:38:02the operators
00:38:03private individuals
00:38:05in the system
00:38:06health care
00:38:06they don't pay
00:38:08not even the price
00:38:10of the competition
00:38:11and of the competition
00:38:12because somehow
00:38:13the health one
00:38:14it is an assisted market
00:38:17the scandals
00:38:18they have this function
00:38:20they make you understand
00:38:21where are they
00:38:22the problems
00:38:23of the system
00:38:24these were
00:38:25some scoundrels
00:38:26but the system
00:38:28allowed him
00:38:28to do
00:38:30the scoundrels
00:38:33really
00:38:34at the time
00:38:35of Santa Rita
00:38:36it wasn't even
00:38:37expected
00:38:38the type of performance
00:38:40that were going
00:38:41Surely
00:38:42insured
00:38:42and guaranteed
00:38:43were chosen
00:38:44from the management
00:38:47of that structure
00:38:47private
00:38:48which of course
00:38:49he always chose
00:38:50the performances
00:38:51more convenient
00:38:55at a certain point
00:38:56the consultants
00:38:57technicians
00:38:58of the prosecution
00:38:59islander
00:38:59130 folders
00:39:01in
00:39:01this group
00:39:03that awakens
00:39:04their attention
00:39:04there are the folders
00:39:05killer
00:39:06those of the cases
00:39:07most striking
00:39:08those of the interventions
00:39:09most sensational
00:39:10let's follow it
00:39:11the most obvious ones
00:39:12to a 37 year old
00:39:15with pneumonia
00:39:15and hepatitis C
00:39:16to be treated
00:39:17with antibiotics
00:39:18and drainage
00:39:19they take away
00:39:19a piece
00:39:20of lung
00:39:21a woman
00:39:2288 years old
00:39:23she is operated on
00:39:23three times
00:39:2412,000 euros
00:39:25for each intervention
00:39:26when it would have been enough
00:39:28only one
00:39:28it is opened
00:39:30for no reason
00:39:30a girl
00:39:31affected by Down syndrome
00:39:32a 65 year old
00:39:34terminally ill
00:39:35of tumor
00:39:36with metastases
00:39:37everywhere
00:39:37it ends up on the table
00:39:38operating
00:39:39out of sheer obstinacy
00:39:40he dies
00:39:41after long
00:39:42suffering
00:39:43a lady
00:39:4483 years old
00:39:45with breathing difficulties
00:39:46which was supposed to happen instead
00:39:47do only
00:39:48a small withdrawal
00:39:49of fabric
00:39:50in the clinic
00:39:51is brought
00:39:51in the operating room
00:39:52despite the risk
00:39:54high
00:39:54this woman too
00:39:55he will die
00:39:56but it doesn't end here
00:39:57the consultants
00:39:59they come across
00:39:59in the medical record
00:40:00of a patient
00:40:0185 years old
00:40:02is called
00:40:03Antonio Schiavo
00:40:04and he died
00:40:05to Saint Rita
00:40:06during an intervention
00:40:06surgical
00:40:07made right
00:40:08from Brega Massone
00:40:09the investigators
00:40:10they discover
00:40:11that his folder
00:40:12clinic
00:40:12it has been tampered with
00:40:13Now
00:40:15there is little here
00:40:16to be interpreted
00:40:17that folder
00:40:18it's false
00:40:27it all started in 2005
00:40:30when my father
00:40:32he felt unwell
00:40:35at the time
00:40:36had a body
00:40:37Padova Avenue
00:40:39Milan
00:40:39so the hospital
00:40:41of competence
00:40:42closest to the area
00:40:43it was just
00:40:43the clinic
00:40:44Saint Rita
00:40:46to the emergency room
00:40:48was diagnosed
00:40:49bronchopneumonia
00:40:50and that's why
00:40:51which was prescribed
00:40:53a pharmacological treatment
00:40:55and sent home
00:40:57after the time has passed
00:40:58of the cure
00:40:59we showed up again
00:41:00to the emergency room
00:41:01on this occasion
00:41:03we met
00:41:04Dr. Brega
00:41:04immediately in step
00:41:06he is worried
00:41:06Dr. Brega
00:41:07and he said
00:41:08frankly
00:41:10that he saw
00:41:11a stain
00:41:11on the lung
00:41:12and that
00:41:13so it was necessary
00:41:15proceed
00:41:15to surgery
00:41:17the news spread to us
00:41:18a little surprise
00:41:19also because
00:41:20we saw that my father
00:41:22he had recovered
00:41:23and he was better
00:41:24but honestly
00:41:25we trusted each other
00:41:27and trust
00:41:28to the words
00:41:28by Dr. Brega
00:41:31it was May
00:41:33of 2007
00:41:34and my mom
00:41:34he was 77 years old
00:41:37and following
00:41:39of a fall
00:41:39accidental
00:41:40at home
00:41:41in the bathroom
00:41:42we went there
00:41:43to the emergency room
00:41:45of the clinic
00:41:47Saint Rita
00:41:48Where
00:41:49they were
00:41:50diagnosed
00:41:51rib fractures
00:41:54a light
00:41:56payment
00:41:57pleural
00:41:57and it was
00:41:59immediately
00:41:59hospitalized
00:42:01and then
00:42:02after a few days
00:42:04was
00:42:04subjected
00:42:06to an intervention
00:42:07surgical
00:42:08that there had been
00:42:09reported
00:42:10by Dr. Brega
00:42:11and Presidents
00:42:12as
00:42:13absolutely
00:42:14necessary
00:42:16why would he have
00:42:17compromise
00:42:17the functionality
00:42:18of the lung
00:42:19and during
00:42:20This
00:42:22intervention
00:42:23he suffered
00:42:24a resection
00:42:25pulmonary
00:42:264 cm
00:42:27for 4
00:42:28and then
00:42:29What
00:42:30it could have been done
00:42:31we have quit
00:42:31the lawyer
00:42:32the doctor
00:42:33and here we are
00:42:33trust
00:42:34as always
00:42:36review for the second
00:42:38time
00:42:38Dr. Brega
00:42:39the next day
00:42:40of the intervention
00:42:41we all rejoiced
00:42:42from happiness
00:42:44why the exam
00:42:45histological
00:42:46it was absolutely
00:42:46negative
00:42:47and that therefore
00:42:48there wasn't
00:42:49no
00:42:49tumor
00:42:52my father
00:42:53in his
00:42:53simplicity
00:42:56he was speechless
00:42:57to thank
00:42:57Dr. Brega
00:42:58and in reality
00:43:02he told Dr. Brega
00:43:05sign of
00:43:06gratitude
00:43:07to bring it too
00:43:08his car
00:43:09in the body shop
00:43:10near him
00:43:11Why
00:43:11he would have done it to him
00:43:12a treatment
00:43:13special
00:43:15actually
00:43:20It makes me want to cry
00:43:21feel
00:43:21my dad
00:43:26gratitude
00:43:26that is, a man
00:43:27of my dad
00:43:27he is a man
00:43:27simple
00:43:28to say
00:43:29to frame
00:43:29my dad
00:43:30fifth grade
00:43:31Therefore
00:43:31grate
00:43:32a person
00:43:32That
00:43:32at that moment
00:43:34had saved his life
00:43:35already preventing
00:43:36a tumor
00:43:37Therefore
00:43:37for us it was
00:43:38tumor
00:43:39the suspicion
00:43:40tumor
00:43:41removed
00:43:43nothing taken away
00:43:44for us it was taken away
00:43:45the tumor
00:43:45we didn't think about it
00:43:46that there was no tumor
00:43:47he took off pieces
00:43:49of lung
00:43:49he made a stew
00:43:50of lungs
00:43:51he actually
00:43:52actually
00:43:53he couldn't find anything
00:43:54because there was nothing
00:43:57I made a cut
00:43:5910 centimeters
00:44:01and I from then on
00:44:03what I can say
00:44:04it's just that I've never been well
00:44:06never well
00:44:10that of Dr. Brega Massone
00:44:13of the Santa Rita clinic
00:44:14it's a story that
00:44:15it attracts a lot of attention
00:44:17and also raises
00:44:18many divisions
00:44:20for example
00:44:21the Corriere della Sera
00:44:22intervenes with an article
00:44:24in which in fact
00:44:25the investigation is closed
00:44:26of Milan
00:44:27as if based on nothing
00:44:28the province of Pavia too
00:44:30has an orientation
00:44:31let's say so
00:44:32favorable
00:44:33in Brega Massone
00:44:34also intervenes
00:44:35the president
00:44:36of the medical order
00:44:37of Lombardy
00:44:39who asks
00:44:40to view
00:44:41all the documents
00:44:42which concern
00:44:43Brega Mason
00:44:43and then take a look
00:44:44to the appraisals
00:44:46and the thing
00:44:47it ends there
00:44:47because inside
00:44:48those reports
00:44:49there are many
00:44:50and many more
00:44:51shocking things
00:44:58as soon as
00:44:59we realized
00:45:00of that
00:45:01what was happening
00:45:02in that clinic
00:45:03we suffered
00:45:04accelerated
00:45:04all times
00:45:05of work
00:45:06to make sure
00:45:07that the doctor
00:45:08Brega Mason
00:45:09did not return to work
00:45:12we had
00:45:13on one side
00:45:13the necessity
00:45:15to create
00:45:16a trousseau
00:45:17evidentiary
00:45:18Safe
00:45:19because otherwise
00:45:20we would have ruined
00:45:21an investigation
00:45:22which presented itself
00:45:23very good
00:45:24an investigation
00:45:26serious
00:45:27and relevant
00:45:28on the other side
00:45:30we knew
00:45:30that every day
00:45:31that was passing by
00:45:32there was
00:45:34someone
00:45:35in addition
00:45:35which he suffered
00:45:36an intervention
00:45:37surgical
00:45:37not due
00:45:38Good evening
00:45:40from the news
00:45:40of Lombardy
00:45:41it started
00:45:42to investigate
00:45:43more than a year ago
00:45:44on the hypothesis
00:45:45of health reimbursements
00:45:46inflated
00:45:47the investigation then
00:45:47it has expanded
00:45:49with accusations
00:45:49very heavy
00:45:51included
00:45:51the murder
00:45:52aggravated
00:45:53disputed
00:45:53to two suspects
00:45:54for the deaths
00:45:55of some patients
00:45:56elderly people
00:45:57operated
00:45:57Despite
00:45:58it wasn't necessary
00:46:00they were arrested
00:46:01Like this
00:46:0113 doctors
00:46:02and the owner
00:46:03of the private clinic
00:46:04Saint Rita
00:46:05of Milan
00:46:09shortly thereafter
00:46:11the clinic
00:46:12Saint Rita
00:46:12then became
00:46:13the clinic
00:46:13of horrors
00:46:14at dawn
00:46:15of June 9th
00:46:162008
00:46:17Pierpaolo
00:46:18Brega
00:46:18Freemason
00:46:19he is arrested
00:46:20with him
00:46:22they are postponed
00:46:23on trial
00:46:24Francis Paul
00:46:25Pipitone
00:46:26owner
00:46:27and partner
00:46:28unique
00:46:29of the clinic
00:46:30Saint Rita
00:46:31the director
00:46:32health care
00:46:33other doctors
00:46:34the accusations
00:46:35they are very serious
00:46:36it goes from murder
00:46:37voluntary
00:46:38that is, I wanted
00:46:39kill the patients
00:46:40or at least
00:46:41accepted the risk
00:46:42consciously
00:46:43that the patients died
00:46:44to very serious injuries
00:46:45to scams
00:46:48there is a chapter
00:46:50which concerns
00:46:50Saint Rita
00:46:51from the point of view
00:46:52economic
00:46:52and it is
00:46:53the charge of fraud
00:46:54for 2.5 million
00:46:56of euros
00:46:57with annexes
00:46:58seizures
00:46:59Obviously
00:47:00the processes
00:47:01I'm still
00:47:01to start
00:47:02I'm still
00:47:03to celebrate
00:47:03but the feeling
00:47:05is that that chapter
00:47:06be closed permanently
00:47:07end of Santa Rita
00:47:09ruin
00:47:10by Pierpaolo
00:47:11Brega Mason
00:47:124 murders
00:47:13volunteers
00:47:14aggravated
00:47:15from cruelty
00:47:15for the Milan prosecutor's office
00:47:16and the financial police
00:47:17Pierpaolo Brega Freemason
00:47:19he operated knowing full well
00:47:20that would have killed
00:47:21his patients
00:47:22causing it
00:47:22or accelerating it
00:47:23death
00:47:24he did it for money
00:47:25profiting from refunds
00:47:26for operations
00:47:27performed
00:47:27out of sheer obstinacy
00:47:29against all logic
00:47:30and utility
00:47:30they write
00:47:31the Sicilian PMs
00:47:32Pradella
00:47:32the four murders
00:47:33which have been contested
00:47:34they were people
00:47:36already severely affected
00:47:39from oncological pathologies
00:47:41or people above
00:47:43the 80 years
00:47:44these four cases
00:47:45they were
00:47:46all connotations
00:47:48from the absolute
00:47:50uselessness
00:47:50of the interventions
00:47:51they got worse
00:47:53the conditions
00:47:54of the patient
00:47:56so much so that
00:47:58bring him to death
00:47:59a
00:48:01practically
00:48:02under the knife
00:48:06these were
00:48:07people
00:48:08That
00:48:08not only
00:48:09they didn't have to
00:48:10to be operated on
00:48:11but
00:48:11That
00:48:12they had to
00:48:13to be
00:48:14let go
00:48:19was
00:48:19Truly
00:48:20chilling
00:48:20for us
00:48:21discover
00:48:22how little
00:48:25how little
00:48:26consideration
00:48:27there was
00:48:27for those poor people
00:48:28patients
00:48:29not only
00:48:29for those
00:48:30deceased
00:48:30but also
00:48:30for those
00:48:31operated
00:48:32uselessly
00:48:33that they don't have
00:48:33most had
00:48:34a life
00:48:35the same
00:48:36to that one
00:48:36first time
00:48:36evidently
00:48:37Why
00:48:37they have been
00:48:38exported
00:48:39some pieces
00:48:40anatomical
00:48:40that they were
00:48:42healthy
00:48:46at that moment
00:48:47when you enter
00:48:47in that reality
00:48:49you are convinced
00:48:50that it is
00:48:51Right
00:48:52and then
00:48:53Brega had
00:48:54a capacity
00:48:57persuasive
00:48:57not indifferent
00:48:59they are people
00:49:00who adored him
00:49:02you entrusted
00:49:03your life
00:49:04life
00:49:04of your children
00:49:05Meaning what
00:49:06it's a relationship
00:49:08almost maternal
00:49:10what
00:49:10that is created
00:49:11with no one else
00:49:12human being
00:49:13you create
00:49:14a relationship
00:49:15of intimacy
00:49:17to no one else
00:49:18human being
00:49:19deliver
00:49:20your life
00:49:23a mistake
00:49:24of diagnosis
00:49:25it can happen
00:49:25there was a
00:49:28project
00:49:29criminal
00:49:30right in progress
00:49:33the doctor
00:49:34Brega Mason
00:49:35he therefore responds
00:49:36of 120
00:49:37interventions
00:49:38surgical
00:49:39facts
00:49:40second
00:49:40the accusation
00:49:41without
00:49:42other purpose
00:49:43that that one
00:49:44to cash in
00:49:44the money
00:49:45of refunds
00:49:46interventions
00:49:46useless
00:49:47just facts
00:49:49for the purpose
00:49:49for profit
00:49:50in
00:49:50there are also
00:49:51the four victims
00:49:52the four dead
00:49:53and it's there
00:49:54which is based
00:49:55the accusation
00:49:55of murder
00:49:56voluntary
00:50:04the defensive line
00:50:06of the doctor
00:50:06Brega Mason
00:50:08it has always been
00:50:08the same
00:50:09since the debut
00:50:10of criminal proceedings
00:50:11ever since
00:50:12he was arrested
00:50:13that is to say
00:50:14a line
00:50:15technique
00:50:16he always has
00:50:17underlined
00:50:18through
00:50:20the spending
00:50:21of topics
00:50:22technicians
00:50:23like the interventions
00:50:25from him
00:50:25performed
00:50:26they answered
00:50:26Always
00:50:27an indication
00:50:27therapeutic
00:50:28as
00:50:29the accusation
00:50:30to have
00:50:30carried out
00:50:31interventions
00:50:32free
00:50:34useless
00:50:34at the limits
00:50:35of the experimental
00:50:36was completely
00:50:37dismissed
00:50:38of any
00:50:39clinical basis
00:50:40has never
00:50:41made to do
00:50:42needle biopsies
00:50:43in Saint Rita
00:50:44needle biopsies
00:50:45Well
00:50:45in Saint Rita
00:50:47needle biopsies
00:50:48we didn't do them
00:50:49I'm doing the needle biopsy
00:50:50I have never
00:50:50considered
00:50:51an exam
00:50:51fundamental
00:50:52and more risky
00:50:54how useful
00:50:55and then
00:50:56the most peaceful thing
00:50:59In my opinion
00:50:59it was the exam
00:51:00histological
00:51:02can explain
00:51:04technically
00:51:04practically
00:51:05the difference
00:51:06Between
00:51:06a needle biopsy
00:51:08And
00:51:10an intervention
00:51:11that she calls
00:51:12of quadrantectomy
00:51:13technically
00:51:14what do you do
00:51:17with a needle biopsy
00:51:18what does it consist of?
00:51:19you have to hit the target
00:51:21the lesion
00:51:21Therefore
00:51:22to aspire
00:51:22the cell
00:51:23a sting
00:51:24how long does it last?
00:51:26a few seconds
00:51:28it is outpatient
00:51:29Certain
00:51:30in the sense that
00:51:31the woman
00:51:32she is not hospitalized
00:51:35and instead
00:51:36his speech
00:51:37assumes hospitalization
00:51:39and it lasts
00:51:3920 minutes
00:51:40and anesthesia
00:51:41as?
00:51:42general
00:51:44the mother
00:51:45Yes
00:51:45she had to be operated on
00:51:46Why
00:51:46he was a person
00:51:47obese
00:51:48so he was at risk
00:51:49Meaning what
00:51:50when I had done
00:51:51project the cartera
00:51:52clinic
00:51:53of my mother
00:51:53I said
00:51:53look at my mother
00:51:54can read
00:51:55how tall was he?
00:51:561.60 weight
00:51:5754 kg
00:51:58we can consider
00:52:00an obese person
00:52:00this
00:52:03during the process
00:52:05I met
00:52:05Dr. Brega
00:52:06several times
00:52:07has never
00:52:09had a word
00:52:10for none
00:52:11of the victims
00:52:14not even after
00:52:15the process
00:52:16not even at the end
00:52:17of the process
00:52:18it is not
00:52:19never apologized
00:52:28I remember
00:52:29that sense
00:52:32terrible
00:52:32which he gave us
00:52:34the mother
00:52:35of a little girl
00:52:37down
00:52:38she had been operated on
00:52:40in a manner
00:52:42reckless
00:52:43several times
00:52:44among other things
00:52:44and the pain
00:52:46of this mother
00:52:47that was felt
00:52:48at fault
00:52:49so as not to be
00:52:50was able
00:52:51to protect
00:52:51his daughters
00:52:55then I
00:52:56when I heard
00:52:57stoological examinations
00:52:58as my wife
00:52:59he had an operation
00:52:59I thought immediately
00:53:00that there was a tumor
00:53:01storipoma
00:53:02then I went
00:53:03to inform me
00:53:04and I understood
00:53:05which was
00:53:06a harmless one
00:53:06fat ball
00:53:07just a small intervention
00:53:10After
00:53:11This
00:53:13intervention
00:53:13it is not
00:53:14but like this
00:53:16it's big
00:53:17my cut is like this
00:53:19really
00:53:20if she were my sister
00:53:21he had told me
00:53:21this doctor
00:53:22I will have it removed
00:53:23Surely
00:53:24and then
00:53:25I was
00:53:26scared
00:53:26very much
00:53:27and the doctor
00:53:28he saw the plate
00:53:31and immediately
00:53:32he told me
00:53:32that he didn't need
00:53:33of having made me
00:53:34the intervention
00:53:35he almost convinced us
00:53:36he convinced us
00:53:37which was the right one
00:53:38to have surgery
00:53:38to see
00:53:39what was it
00:53:39what it is not
00:53:40the doctor
00:53:40Dr. Bregamassone
00:53:41he told me
00:53:42look we have
00:53:43the results of the momography
00:53:44there's something here
00:53:46and we have to
00:53:46to intervene surgically
00:53:49sometimes I don't feel well
00:53:52sometimes I
00:53:53it happened to me
00:53:55last year too
00:53:55I said
00:53:56How come
00:53:57at my age
00:53:58I'm so out of breath
00:54:00that I can't even run
00:54:02I stopped
00:54:03a tremendous exponent
00:54:06of processes
00:54:08in Bregamassone
00:54:09two are celebrated
00:54:11the first one ends
00:54:12with a final sentence
00:54:14at 15 years old
00:54:15and 6 months
00:54:16of imprisonment
00:54:16and it concerns
00:54:17useless operations
00:54:18false
00:54:19fraud
00:54:19and other hypotheses
00:54:20of crime
00:54:21the second trial
00:54:23instead it concerns
00:54:24other hypotheses
00:54:25of crime
00:54:25but above all
00:54:26the 4 murders
00:54:28this is a process
00:54:29who had
00:54:29as many as two cancellations
00:54:31in Cassation
00:54:32and it ended
00:54:33then with a sentence
00:54:34which determined
00:54:35the overall sentence
00:54:37for the doctor
00:54:38in 21 years
00:54:39and 4 months
00:54:40of imprisonment
00:54:41the murder
00:54:42which initially
00:54:43it was a voluntary homicide
00:54:45that is, I want to kill
00:54:46it was downgraded
00:54:48in murder
00:54:49unintentional
00:54:51I operated
00:54:52without there being any
00:54:53the necessity
00:54:54I voluntarily
00:54:56inflicted
00:54:57of the injuries
00:54:58as a consequence
00:55:00of these lesions
00:55:00the patients
00:55:01they died
00:55:02but my intent
00:55:03it wasn't
00:55:04from the very beginning
00:55:05that of killing them
00:55:06it's a solution
00:55:07which appears
00:55:08fair to the technician
00:55:09which he may have
00:55:10someone dissatisfied
00:55:12but from the point of view
00:55:13of Italian justice
00:55:15era
00:55:15as per notice
00:55:17almost unanimous
00:55:18the only possible solution
00:55:20once
00:55:21confirmed
00:55:22the responsibility
00:55:23but since
00:55:24we are talking
00:55:25of doctors
00:55:26we talked
00:55:26of how to interpret
00:55:28the profession
00:55:29or the mission
00:55:30of the doctor
00:55:30we hear
00:55:31where it started
00:55:33All
00:55:33from those words
00:55:34millenary
00:55:36of the oath
00:55:37by Hippocrates
00:55:37that they have
00:55:38stuck
00:55:39in our hearts
00:55:40and in our mind
00:55:42the figure
00:55:43of the doctor
00:55:44in tradition
00:55:45and in history
00:55:49aware
00:55:50of the importance
00:55:50and of the solemnity
00:55:51of the act I perform
00:55:52and commitment
00:55:53that I assume
00:55:54I swear
00:55:55to pursue
00:55:56the defense of life
00:55:57the protection
00:55:58of physical health
00:55:59and psychic
00:55:59the treatment
00:56:00of pain
00:56:01and the relief
00:56:02from suffering
00:56:03in compliance
00:56:04of dignity
00:56:04and freedom
00:56:05of the person
00:56:06to whom
00:56:07with constant commitment
00:56:08scientific
00:56:09cultural
00:56:10and social
00:56:10I will inspire
00:56:11my every action
00:56:12professional
00:56:13to cure
00:56:14every patient
00:56:15scrupulously
00:56:15and commitment
00:56:16without discrimination
00:56:17any
00:56:18promoting
00:56:19the elimination
00:56:19of every shape
00:56:20of inequality
00:56:21in the protection
00:56:22of health
00:56:23not to do
00:56:24never finalized actions
00:56:26to provoke
00:56:26death
00:56:27not to undertake
00:56:28nor insist
00:56:29in procedures
00:56:30diagnostics
00:56:31and interventions
00:56:31therapeutic
00:56:32clinically
00:56:33inappropriate
00:56:34and ethically
00:56:35not proportionate
00:56:36without ever
00:56:36abandon
00:56:37the cure
00:56:37of the sick
00:56:38to pursue
00:56:39with the person being assisted
00:56:40a relationship
00:56:41of care
00:56:42founded
00:56:42on trust
00:56:43and on respect
00:56:44of values
00:56:44and rights
00:56:45of each one
00:56:46and on a piece of information
00:56:47preliminary
00:56:48to the consent
00:56:49understandable
00:56:49and complete
00:56:50to lend
00:56:51in science
00:56:52and conscience
00:56:53my work
00:56:54with diligence
00:56:55expertise and prudence
00:56:56and according to equity
00:56:57observing
00:56:58the rules
00:56:59deontological
00:57:00which regulate
00:57:01the exercise
00:57:02of the profession
00:57:04Well
00:57:05we are
00:57:05to one of the bases
00:57:07of ours
00:57:07Western culture
00:57:09but
00:57:10but
00:57:11I wouldn't want to give
00:57:13the impression
00:57:13that this
00:57:14transmission
00:57:15he traced
00:57:15of the borders
00:57:16extremely
00:57:17net
00:57:17on this side
00:57:18the oath
00:57:19by Hippocrates
00:57:20on this other side
00:57:22the businessmen
00:57:23on this side
00:57:24those who
00:57:25they sacrifice
00:57:26one's existence
00:57:27to the mission
00:57:28of health
00:57:28on the other side
00:57:30the dirty old men
00:57:31things are not
00:57:31so simple
00:57:33and so clear
00:57:33in a system
00:57:34democratic
00:57:35and pluralist
00:57:36like ours
00:57:37there is nothing
00:57:37of unseemly
00:57:38in paying
00:57:39the doctors
00:57:40in recognizing
00:57:41their commitment
00:57:43their hard work
00:57:43one of the bases
00:57:45of our coexistence
00:57:46civil
00:57:46the protection
00:57:47of health
00:57:47the doctors
00:57:48they are those
00:57:48that protect
00:57:49our health
00:57:50there isn't even one
00:57:51nothing scandalous
00:57:52in thinking
00:57:53than to a public system
00:57:54yes it can
00:57:54to match
00:57:55a private system
00:57:56and not even
00:57:57in fact
00:57:57that a doctor
00:57:58very good
00:57:59come a lot
00:58:00well paid
00:58:01the point
00:58:02it's another one
00:58:03the point
00:58:04that's it
00:58:04of the border
00:58:06this yes
00:58:06net
00:58:07between ethics
00:58:08and the catastrophe
00:58:11between the fall
00:58:12the collapse
00:58:13of the ethical principle
00:58:14and the right
00:58:16to your health
00:58:17and in the way
00:58:19to interpret
00:58:19the medical profession
00:58:21to what extent
00:58:22you can push
00:58:23the desire
00:58:24to be
00:58:25well paid
00:58:26if up to the point
00:58:27to cancel
00:58:28the protection
00:58:29of health
00:58:30and the meaning
00:58:30missionary
00:58:31of the doctor
00:58:31well then
00:58:32we are talking
00:58:33of something else
00:58:33and for this
00:58:34that we asked for
00:58:36how he lives
00:58:37his being a doctor
00:58:38a doctor
00:58:39who lives it
00:58:40in a very different way
00:58:41from that
00:58:42that we heard
00:58:42until now
00:58:50I am
00:58:51a Lampedusan
00:58:52I went
00:58:53in Lampedusa
00:58:53I did it first
00:58:54the fisherman
00:58:54after which
00:58:55I became a doctor
00:58:56then I specialized
00:58:57I'm back
00:58:58in my foreign country
00:58:58to cure
00:58:59my fellow citizens
00:59:01because there was no health care
00:59:05then I found myself
00:59:06in front of
00:59:06to the migratory phenomenon
00:59:07they were people
00:59:09them too
00:59:10they needed
00:59:11of the treatments
00:59:12to be heard
00:59:13I did it
00:59:14I did it
00:59:15Why
00:59:15I think that
00:59:17is part of
00:59:18of ours
00:59:19dentistry
00:59:20medical dentistry
00:59:21we did
00:59:21an oath
00:59:22so I am
00:59:23taken care of them
00:59:24then I took care of
00:59:25of my fellow citizens
00:59:27without any difference
00:59:32for me
00:59:33medical art
00:59:33a noble art
00:59:35In my opinion
00:59:36it's a mission
00:59:37In short
00:59:37I interpret it
00:59:38in this way
00:59:39and so I can't
00:59:40how to say
00:59:42exercise
00:59:42this profession
00:59:43differently
00:59:44for me
00:59:44the people
00:59:45they are all the same
00:59:46and whoever needs it
00:59:48of the treatments
00:59:49must have them
00:59:50independently
00:59:51from everything
00:59:52we have
00:59:53in the hands
00:59:54people's lives
00:59:55and that life
00:59:56you have to respect them
00:59:57you have to take care of them
00:59:59When
01:00:00at the pier
01:00:00fabulous
01:00:01what is that pier
01:00:02famous
01:00:03now become
01:00:04also thanks to the film
01:00:05Focamare
01:00:05I was saying
01:00:06to my collaborators
01:00:08I was saying that
01:00:09the first approach
01:00:10towards
01:00:11of these people
01:00:11must be
01:00:12the human one
01:00:13it wasn't needed
01:00:14nothing to do this
01:00:15a smile was enough
01:00:17a hug
01:00:19you have to go in
01:00:21in empathy
01:00:21with people
01:00:22Why
01:00:22through
01:00:23this approach
01:00:25so human
01:00:26yes you can
01:00:27Here you are
01:00:28becomes everything
01:00:28easier
01:00:31is to consider
01:00:32the person
01:00:33as well as the patient
01:00:34because it's not alone
01:00:35a patient
01:00:35he is a person
01:00:36which cannot be profited from
01:00:38which cannot be joked about
01:00:40because if you lose
01:00:41This
01:00:41this contact
01:00:42practically
01:00:43you work badly
01:00:47the right to health
01:00:49it is a fundamental right
01:00:51aside from human rights
01:00:52provided for by the Constitution
01:00:54and if one
01:00:55Not
01:00:55transgresses this
01:00:57practically
01:00:57he doesn't do it
01:00:58he doesn't do a good job
01:00:59I believe that
01:01:00Anyway
01:01:01the right to health
01:01:02should be
01:01:03let's say
01:01:03how to say
01:01:06guaranteed
01:01:07guaranteed
01:01:08360 degrees
01:01:11should be
01:01:12public health
01:01:13to have
01:01:14let's say
01:01:15how to say
01:01:15a very important role
01:01:17to guarantee everyone
01:01:18to everyone
01:01:19the possibility of treatment
01:01:21without making distinctions
01:01:22absolutely
01:01:28this story
01:01:29it ends here
01:01:30it's a story
01:01:31that has roots
01:01:32in a very particular year
01:01:332008
01:01:34if we had to remember
01:01:35among the events
01:01:36of that year
01:01:37we would say
01:01:37Well
01:01:38they discovered
01:01:38water on Mars
01:01:40for the first time
01:01:41after seven years
01:01:42the president
01:01:42candidate
01:01:43of Colombia
01:01:44Ingrid Betancur
01:01:45is released
01:01:46after seven years
01:01:47of imprisonment
01:01:48from the guerrillas
01:01:49fails
01:01:50the investment bank
01:01:51Lehman Brothers
01:01:53the myth collapses
01:01:54of too big to fail
01:01:55let's go in
01:01:56in an economic crisis
01:01:57the consequences of which
01:01:58probably
01:01:59I'm not yet
01:02:00you are completely
01:02:01overcome
01:02:02in Italy
01:02:03two great films are coming out
01:02:05the Divine
01:02:05and Gomorrah
01:02:07and they throw
01:02:08in Olympus
01:02:09two great directors
01:02:10Paolo Sorrentino
01:02:11and Matteo Garrone
01:02:12that year
01:02:13there is a song
01:02:14successful
01:02:14it's the rapper's
01:02:15Fabri Fibra
01:02:16it's a song
01:02:17I tell you
01:02:18why we chose it
01:02:19that tells
01:02:20very critically
01:02:22the scandals
01:02:23the problems
01:02:23even violence
01:02:25of Italy
01:02:26of that year
01:02:27it's a song
01:02:27what does he say?
01:02:28in Italy
01:02:28it's better
01:02:29if you don't get sick
01:02:30in Italy
01:02:30it's better
01:02:31if you don't finish
01:02:32in the hospital
01:02:32and here it is
01:02:33the reason
01:02:34for which
01:02:34we're closing
01:02:35with this song
01:02:36ready?
01:02:38ready?
01:02:43in Italy
01:02:45you were born and died here
01:02:46you were born and died here
01:02:48born here and died here
01:02:49where are you fleeing to?
01:02:51in Italy
01:02:52guns and cars
01:02:53in Italy
01:02:55Macchiavelli and Foscolo
01:02:56in Italy
01:02:58the world champions
01:02:59I'm in Italy
01:03:01welcome
01:03:02in Italy
01:03:03take a beach holiday
01:03:05in Italy
01:03:06better not to have surgery
01:03:08in Italy
01:03:09and don't go to the hospital
01:03:11in Italy
01:03:12the good life
01:03:14in Italy
01:03:15the big evenings and galas
01:03:17in Italy
01:03:18do business with the underworld
01:03:20in Italy
01:03:21the neighbor who shoots you
01:03:23in Italy
01:03:24you were born and died here
01:03:26you were born and died here
01:03:27you were born and died here
01:03:29born here and died here
01:03:30you were born and died here
01:03:32you were born and died here
01:03:33you were born and died here
01:03:35born here and died here
01:03:36you were born and died here
01:03:44you were born and died here
01:03:45you were born and died here
01:03:46born here and died here
01:03:48you were born and died here
01:03:48where are you fleeing to?
01:03:49in Italy
01:03:50the real mafiosi are
01:03:52in Italy
01:03:53And they are more dangerous in Italy
01:03:56Girls on the street in Italy
01:03:59You eat homemade pasta in Italy
01:04:03Then thieves enter your house in Italy
01:04:06You can't find a permanent job in Italy
01:04:09But kiss the crucifix in Italy
01:04:11Monuments in Italy
01:04:14Churches with paintings in Italy
01:04:17People with feelings in Italy
01:04:20The campaign and the kidnappings in Italy
01:04:23You were born and died here
01:04:24You were born and died here
01:04:27Born here and died here
01:04:29You were born and died here
01:04:30You were born and died here
01:04:33Born here and died here
01:04:36This first season of crime chronicles
01:04:39It ends here
01:04:40We are already working for next season
01:04:42Good night
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