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00:06:21I have worked in conditions

00:06:27particularly extreme

00:06:29It keeps snowing

00:06:30It is cold

00:06:31There is a serious risk

00:06:33of avalanches

00:06:34Unfortunately there is a state factor

00:06:35On a ladder

00:06:36maximum of 5

00:06:37Avalanche risks

00:06:38he's tall

00:06:39the soldiers check

00:06:40minute after minute

00:06:41the weather conditions

00:06:43they coordinate

00:06:43the movements of the helicopters

00:06:45increasingly detached

00:06:46From the fog

00:06:47I'll let him fish in the direction of Rigopiano.

00:06:49At this moment there is a Guardia di Finanza helicopter that was supposed to go and bring men and equipment to

00:06:58Rigopiano.

00:06:59We are currently experiencing a sharp drop in visibility, so we are diverting it to our field.

00:07:06The teams taking turns on the avalanche front arrive here at the base camp tired, but motivated by the

00:07:12hope of still finding survivors.

00:07:14We are working with a precise objective, with a precise operational hypothesis that authorizes us to hypothesize that there may be people

00:07:24in life.

00:07:25The hope that moves everything, that even overcomes the tiredness of those who have dug through the snow all day

00:07:30day before leaving the place to colleagues.

00:07:32We try to rest a bit, we start again in a few hours.

00:07:38There is a place where emotions are truly many and contrasting, which is the hospital.

00:07:47from Pescara.

00:07:48You see, my colleague Rosita Rosa is right there.

00:07:51Why the Pescara hospital?

00:07:53Because that's where the first survivors arrived, that's where the children arrived, the children who were extracted, extracted alive.

00:08:04So, Rosita Rosa, give us the latest updates right from the hospital in Pescara.

00:08:11Yes, good evening Emma, we are here at the Santo Spirito hospital in Pescara, right in front of the emergency room entrance.

00:08:18Unfortunately today there is no news of survivors, unlike the past few days, in fact in the evening, as you were saying, it arrived

00:08:25confirmation of the sixth victim.

00:08:28Here we await the arrival of the body, where the official identification and then the autopsy will be carried out.

00:08:34Right here where the five other bodies of the other victims are already located, on which the extermination was carried out today.

00:08:41'autopsy.

00:08:42Meanwhile, the relatives of the 23 missing are waiting for news; we have now reached the fifth day, the fifth night of waiting.

00:08:51However, the hospital management decided to host them in a protected area of the facility, an area monitored 24 hours a day.

00:08:58on 24 by the police

00:09:00and they are also protected by the help of emergency psychologists who are constantly at their side.

00:09:06Every ambulance, every plane, every helicopter that flies over this area is a beacon of hope.

00:09:15But unfortunately today we have recorded very few flights, very few helicopters have actually taken off

00:09:23flight.

00:09:23You can really count them on one hand. And then, as you said, there's the other side of the coin,

00:09:29the black and white of this tragedy

00:09:31We've been telling you about it for days now. There's joy, smiles, and hugs from family and friends.

00:09:36of those who made it.

00:09:38They've all left, almost all of them out of intensive care, they're in the general medicine wards.

00:09:45All except one, Giampaolo Matrone, the 34 year old pastry chef from Montero Tondo, who just arrived here

00:09:52he had surgery on his arm.

00:09:54Now, however, the hospital director assured us, he is in dire conditions.

00:09:58He is still under observation in the intensive care unit, but he will probably be moved to a ward in the next few days.

00:10:04standard hospitalization ward.

00:10:06But let's see the story of this day. In the service, then there in the studio.

00:10:12It's a day of silence at Pescara Hospital. The bustle of ambulances from days past is now silent.

00:10:18more.

00:10:20At 4 p.m., the survivors' final medical report begins like this. The situation remains unchanged.

00:10:27We still have nine people in this hospital. The four children, as mentioned yesterday, are admitted to the pediatric ward.

00:10:364 of the 5 adults will be admitted to the inpatient wards this afternoon.

00:10:44Tomorrow, the doctors say, the first to be rescued, the 4 children and the mother of two of them, could

00:10:49to be discharged.

00:10:50Of course, the little ones will remain under constant supervision by psychologists.

00:10:54And today, one of the rescuers arrived to find them, one of the many who hugged and supported them, as soon as they were pulled

00:11:00out of the rubble.

00:11:02They didn't even seem scared to me.

00:11:04What did they tell them?

00:11:05No, no, they didn't really talk. It was mostly us rescuers who talked, including the firefighters and the mountain rescuers, who were giving us a caress,

00:11:13who were saying if she is beautiful.

00:11:14And they, nothing, smiled.

00:11:16Meanwhile, here, in the hospital's main hall, the relatives of those still buried under the avalanche are living a

00:11:23'endless wait,

00:11:24which has been going on for 5 days and 5 nights now.

00:11:27So, almost no one went home to sleep. Only family members and friends of those who died are talking.

00:11:32he was saved,

00:11:33like Francesca Bronzi, 25, who since she arrived in intensive care, has not stopped asking for news of her boyfriend

00:11:40Stefano, still missing.

00:11:42Is she okay? The others aren't, so we're still waiting.

00:11:46Stefano, did something stop?

00:11:47No, I don't know anything.

00:11:48But despite the silence of these hours, no one gives up hope.

00:11:53It seems like there is something new going on with some new machinery that is coming up to open up some

00:12:01new openings,

00:12:02things that communicated, that gave enough confidence.

00:12:07So, let me introduce you to our guests right away.

00:12:11In the studio this evening Carlo Doglioni, president of INGV, Raffaella Milano, who is a very well-known Italy-Europe director of Save the

00:12:19Children,

00:12:20and Fulco Pratesi, honorary president of WWF Italy.

00:12:23Raffaella Milano, we have already met several times in Amatrice, you have organised some beautiful works for the children,

00:12:31to help overcome the trauma. We also felt it in this colleague's service and then followed the return

00:12:40in the light of children.

00:12:43These children have a trauma, this is clear, we also spoke with psychologists and above all they remember,

00:12:51because memory is the strongest part then, their memories, the memory of what they have experienced, of

00:12:59those moments, those dramatic hours.

00:13:02But yes, children have a very special ability to react even in difficult and extreme situations like these.

00:13:10They will certainly need constant support and we will also have to respect their time,

00:13:19because these memories, even making sense of everything that happened, is a commitment.

00:13:26Many children perhaps express these feelings, these memories, perhaps more easily through a drawing,

00:13:33through a fantastic story, rather than through words.

00:13:37And above all, we must listen to them, know how to listen to them, rather than talk to them,

00:13:42knowing how to listen even to those unanswered questions that may exist.

00:13:48Let's consider it sometimes, we were talking about Amatrice, there too so many deaths, so many problems.

00:13:53Many children sometimes even feel guilty about what happened, as if it could somehow

00:13:58depend on them.

00:14:00We need to be able to get them to express these doubts, these questions, too.

00:14:05and reassure them but at the same time tell the truth, be sincere and honest.

00:14:10It will take time but they will be able to find their smile again, and the carefree attitude that is typical of children, even after

00:14:19tragic events.

00:14:20Yes, of course, even after terrible, dramatic losses, the worst things that can happen to a child.

00:14:25But children are certainly extraordinary from this point of view.

00:14:29We also have Luca Mercalli connected from Turin, we'll talk later, good evening, we'll talk to our guests later.

00:14:41Good evening to you.

00:14:42Meanwhile we were talking about the non-stop research.

00:14:46So let's see with Alessandro Gaeta who the people are, there are 23 missing,

00:14:51Who are the people you're still looking for? Let's see.

00:14:56Fayet is a big man, six foot three.

00:14:58He is Senegalese but even though he is not very familiar with the cold and the mountains,

00:15:02he had accepted that job as a handyman at the foot of the Gran Sasso without asking too many questions.

00:15:07Within hours, his name was on and off the missing persons list.

00:15:11They added it today following reports from two hotel guests.

00:15:14and just this afternoon the rescuers extracted a body, that of a man.

00:15:18Five victims have an identity, among them Alessandro Giancaterino

00:15:22that today a hearse brought back to Farindola, Nadia Conciamessa

00:15:25and Sebastiano Di Carlo, the parent of Edoardo, one of the four children who were saved.

00:15:30Barbara Nubilio of Loreto Prutino and her husband Piero Di Pietro also died.

00:15:35To find all those who might still be alive

00:15:37Rescuers are opening in these hours with a thousand precautions

00:15:40two more accesses to that mass of snow, trees and concrete

00:15:44which until last Wednesday was the Rigopiano Hotel.

00:15:47The anguish of the questions and the hope of the relatives for the fate of Valentina Ciccioni

00:15:51Her husband Giampaolo was saved but ask about her

00:15:54there is also their little girl who remained with her grandmother in Monterotondo.

00:15:57Samuel, among the first to be rescued, is also waiting for news from his parents, Domenico and Marina

00:16:02many couples still down there, their smiles printed on the photos

00:16:06Marco Vagnarelli and Paolo Tommassini, Marchigiani, Luciano Caporale and Silvana Angelucci

00:16:11hairdressers in the province of Chieti, Marco Tanda and Jesse Catinari

00:16:15He is a Ryanair pilot from Macerata, she is a beautician from Vasto

00:16:19and then Claudio Baldini and Sara Angelozzi who documented every moment of their holiday in Rigopiano

00:16:24A large number of employees of the destroyed hotel are still missing from the roll call

00:16:28from the manager Roberto Del Rosso who had entrusted it to a certified email

00:16:32the alarm for what was happening under the Gran Sasso

00:16:35to chef Ilaria Di Blase, from Cecilia Martella to Luana Biferi

00:16:39and then Alessandro Riccetti from Terni and Emanuele Bonifazzi from Pioraco

00:16:44who welcomed guests at the reception

00:16:46for them and for all the others, Firefighters and Alpine Rescue Men

00:16:50they will continue digging all night

00:16:55Meanwhile, the Civil Protection headquarters is in Rieti.

00:16:59Civil protection is basically where the emergency is coordinated

00:17:03rescue and aid are coordinated

00:17:06Valentina Bisti is here for us

00:17:07Valentina

00:17:09Yes, indeed, this is where updates on search and rescue activities come from.

00:17:15regarding the Rigopiano hotel

00:17:18we reiterate it, we reiterate the budget

00:17:22There are 11 survivors, 6 victims of these 4 men and 2 women

00:17:28You said it from the studio, the huge rescue machine is coordinated here

00:17:34over 8 thousand men working on various fronts

00:17:37therefore from helping the population in difficulty

00:17:41there are many hamlets, many houses that are still isolated

00:17:45to bring many basic necessities or medicine

00:17:49to all those people who do not intend to leave their homes

00:17:54and so they prefer to stay where they are

00:17:57but we are also working to restore the road network

00:18:01to reset and restore utilities

00:18:06there are still 10 thousand in the province of Teramo that don't work

00:18:11and then let's remember that there is also assistance to the population

00:18:15over 12 thousand people since August 24th

00:18:19from the earthquake of August 24th onwards

00:18:21they were unable to return to their homes

00:18:23so they need assistance

00:18:25General Santamaria

00:18:26you do an amazing job

00:18:28you have 3 thousand men in the field

00:18:30the most important work at the moment

00:18:33it's just to help all these people

00:18:35who have difficulties

00:18:37because they are isolated

00:18:38because they don't have electricity

00:18:41so how does your work go?

00:18:43as you know one of the objectives

00:18:45that civil protection

00:18:47assigned to the various operational structures

00:18:49is to reach all the fractions

00:18:51which have been isolated for having contact with these fractions

00:18:55understand what the needs are

00:18:57and possibly if requested by the population

00:18:59even filter them, take them, recover them

00:19:01to take them to safe areas, in different areas

00:19:05us yesterday

00:19:07we are acting right now

00:19:08in the Villa Castellano area

00:19:10where we recovered through different methods

00:19:13both by air and by land

00:19:15approximately 160 civilians

00:19:17that were brought

00:19:23in Ascoli Piceno

00:19:25and then they were taken by the civil protection to the hotels

00:19:28here in many cases are your men

00:19:30they arrive by helicopter

00:19:32they are made to get off

00:19:34in more or less nearby places

00:19:35and then they continue on skis

00:19:37they continue with the skis

00:19:38they arrive with these skis

00:19:40with 4 hours also, 5 hours of walking

00:19:42they arrive at these fractions

00:19:44and then they stay with these fractions

00:19:47they help them with what may be their primary needs

00:19:50they help them survive

00:19:52waiting for then with helicopters

00:19:53when the weather permits

00:19:55we go down and recover them with the helicopters

00:19:57they sleep with them in their homes

00:19:59and they are together with them

00:20:00and give him security

00:20:01and give him technical assistance

00:20:02another job is that of restoring the road system

00:20:05which is also important, quickly

00:20:06Yes, the traffic clearly

00:20:08it's the levene

00:20:11the blood of the whole structure

00:20:13of all the roads

00:20:14is being searched for

00:20:15by all available means

00:20:17that of reconnecting

00:20:18the entire municipal network

00:20:20to the provincial network

00:20:21which is already free

00:20:21Well, if you have no other study questions

00:20:24I'll give you back the line

00:20:25Yes, Valentina, thank you.

00:20:26and we'll come back to you later

00:20:30So, Carlo Doglioni

00:20:31I said INGV president

00:20:34the earthquake, earthquake and avalanche

00:20:37truly a cataclysm

00:20:39that is, an events commission

00:20:42really difficult and complicated

00:20:45but at the same time today

00:20:47the major risks commission

00:20:48he was advancing, so to speak

00:20:50the hypothesis of a possible another earthquake

00:20:54which could then trigger a series of

00:20:57concatenations, of chain events

00:21:01The correlation between avalanche

00:21:03and earthquake is to be demonstrated

00:21:05it's possible but it's not clear yet

00:21:07because the avalanche has fallen

00:21:09after, several hours later

00:21:11that there was an earthquake

00:21:12of magnitude 5 in the afternoon

00:21:14of the two and beyond

00:21:15so, since we don't know

00:21:17the exact time

00:21:18but we know at least

00:21:19which happened after 4:30

00:21:20between 4:30 and 5:00

00:21:22there were no earthquakes

00:21:24of significant magnitude

00:21:26the only important one was

00:21:28a magnitude 3 that arrived at 6

00:21:31so this direct correlation

00:21:34it's difficult

00:21:36avalanches occur even without earthquakes

00:21:39so we need to understand

00:21:41what the real cause was

00:21:45but regardless of whether there is a cause or not

00:21:47that there is a correlation

00:21:49the fact remains that

00:21:52regardless of the disaster

00:21:54it should have been or could have been avoided

00:21:57maybe with a different schedule

00:22:00where the hotel was built

00:22:04but beyond this situation

00:22:06we are living in a period

00:22:08a particularly long seismic sequence

00:22:11which however is not a novelty

00:22:12in the history of Italy

00:22:14there have been in the past

00:22:17in 1703

00:22:18but also in other periods

00:22:19even more recent ones

00:22:20seismic sequences that lasted

00:22:22many months

00:22:23also the sequence of 97-98

00:22:25it lasted a long time

00:22:26what is missing

00:22:27particularly in Italy

00:22:28it's a bit like memory

00:22:30of these events

00:22:32I would like to remember

00:22:33the beginning of the last century

00:22:37there was the terrifying earthquake

00:22:40of 1915

00:22:41which happened on January 13th

00:22:43and 30,000 people died

00:22:45it was a massacre

00:22:48terrifying

00:22:49and immediately after it snowed

00:22:51so we found ourselves

00:22:51in a condition

00:22:52very similar

00:22:53to that of these days

00:22:54then there was the earthquake

00:22:55of 1916

00:22:57in Rimini 17

00:22:59in Monterchi 18

00:23:00let's say

00:23:01we tend to remove

00:23:02are removed

00:23:03these fundamental memories

00:23:05in 1920

00:23:07the earthquake occurred

00:23:08of Garfagnana

00:23:09this to say

00:23:09that in schools

00:23:11should be taught

00:23:12this fact

00:23:13only 6% of Italians

00:23:15they are aware

00:23:16of living in an earthquake zone

00:23:17and in my opinion

00:23:19we should

00:23:19get to do

00:23:21a seismic bulletin

00:23:22every week

00:23:23as well as

00:23:24a weather report

00:23:26let's talk about it again

00:23:26here's how the weather report

00:23:28he even said it

00:23:29Luca Mercalli

00:23:30we heard from our colleague

00:23:31which is found

00:23:32right on the spot

00:23:34of the worsening

00:23:35Tomorrow

00:23:36a worsening

00:23:37of the situation

00:23:39In short

00:23:39of the time

00:23:40but at the same time

00:23:41at the same time

00:23:43let's say

00:23:43that the temperatures

00:23:44have increased

00:23:46At that time

00:23:46what's up?

00:23:47the risk

00:23:47that the snow

00:23:48melt

00:23:50what are the risks

00:23:52Now?

00:23:55but it changes

00:23:56completely

00:23:56the air mass

00:23:58before we had

00:23:58of the cold air

00:23:59that was arriving

00:24:00from the northeast

00:24:01of reason

00:24:02of snowfalls

00:24:02even at low altitude

00:24:03of the last few days

00:24:05now instead

00:24:05we have a depression

00:24:06Mediterranean

00:24:07which comes from North Africa

00:24:09and then

00:24:09and then brings

00:24:10a mass of air

00:24:11humid

00:24:12with rains

00:24:13but temperatures

00:24:13even higher

00:24:15and that means

00:24:16that the share

00:24:16of the snow

00:24:17will move

00:24:18above 1500 meters

00:24:20so probably

00:24:21at the quota

00:24:21of the hotel

00:24:22it will rain

00:24:23or anyway

00:24:24it will be snow

00:24:24very wet

00:24:25and we will have

00:24:26rainy

00:24:27that in some areas

00:24:28they could also

00:24:29give rise

00:24:30to some problems

00:24:31of fusion

00:24:32of the present snow

00:24:33and therefore also

00:24:34of the risk

00:24:35of hydrogeological

00:24:37that is, to have

00:24:38on the contrary

00:24:38of the floods

00:24:39of rivers

00:24:40or torrents

00:24:41in some areas

00:24:42this is the situation

00:24:43for tomorrow

00:24:44and the day after tomorrow

00:24:45then finally

00:24:46starting

00:24:47from Wednesday

00:24:48we should

00:24:48see closed

00:24:49this stage

00:24:50of time

00:24:51so disturbed

00:24:52in southern Italy

00:24:53and we will see again

00:24:54probably

00:24:54the sun

00:24:55for the rest too

00:24:56of the week

00:24:57I would like to though

00:24:57to give information

00:24:59important

00:24:59to encourage

00:25:01the rescuers

00:25:02to persevere

00:25:04there is a case

00:25:04historical

00:25:05what does he do

00:25:06Truly

00:25:07school

00:25:07in research

00:25:08of survivors

00:25:10from an avalanche

00:25:10it happened a long time ago

00:25:12in 1755

00:25:14in the province of Cuneo

00:25:16At that time

00:25:17in Bergemonetto

00:25:18a fraction

00:25:19of the Stura Valley

00:25:20by De Monte

00:25:21an avalanche

00:25:22falls and buried

00:25:24a small village

00:25:25and three women

00:25:27they were saved

00:25:29resisting

00:25:29for a full 38 days

00:25:31in a stable

00:25:33where the roof collapsed

00:25:34but he remained

00:25:36a space

00:25:36a bit like that

00:25:37where they were found

00:25:38the other survivors

00:25:40the only difference

00:25:41that they could count

00:25:42on some goats

00:25:43present in the stable

00:25:45and they fed

00:25:46of milk

00:25:47in complete darkness

00:25:48without seeing anything

00:25:49and with stylicide

00:25:51of the water

00:25:52snow spread

00:25:53but you see

00:25:5438 days

00:25:55Truly

00:25:55an extraordinary case

00:25:57which still today

00:25:58remains unmatched

00:25:59in the world

00:26:00and then

00:26:01hope

00:26:02Truly

00:26:02the last to die

00:26:03Why

00:26:03digging

00:26:05there were

00:26:05of the other areas

00:26:07repaired

00:26:07among the rubble

00:26:08of the hotel

00:26:09someone might

00:26:10to resist in life

00:26:11for several

00:26:12several days

00:26:13but in fact

00:26:13hope

00:26:14this very one

00:26:14it's hope

00:26:15of the rescuers

00:26:16and they said it

00:26:16several times

00:26:17that is, to find

00:26:18of people

00:26:19still alive

00:26:19but really

00:26:20in the area

00:26:21Here you are

00:26:21what are the forecasts

00:26:22we have to worry

00:26:23just for that

00:26:24restricted area

00:26:25of the hotel

00:26:29then in the meantime

00:26:30no one can do

00:26:31forecasts at the level

00:26:32territorial

00:26:33so fine

00:26:34so it remains

00:26:34the painting

00:26:35that I announced to you

00:26:36Before

00:26:36we will have some time

00:26:37cloudy

00:26:38rainy

00:26:39rains that will come

00:26:41up to around the quotas

00:26:42of 1500 meters

00:26:44so being

00:26:45the hotel around 1200 meters

00:26:47It means we will be there

00:26:49a little on the edge

00:26:49of the rain snow

00:26:50we will be able to have

00:26:51moments of rain

00:26:53moments with wet snow

00:26:54sleet

00:26:55and this

00:26:56Certainly

00:26:57it won't make it easy

00:26:58still the work

00:26:59for the next ones

00:27:00two days

00:27:01but then

00:27:02improvement

00:27:03starting from

00:27:04second half

00:27:05of Wednesday's day

00:27:06Fulco Pratesi

00:27:08she knows very well

00:27:10those places

00:27:11why he was president

00:27:12of the National Park

00:27:13from Abruzzo

00:27:14we saw

00:27:15the hotel

00:27:16we mentioned it before

00:27:18and this overhang

00:27:19that is, the valley

00:27:20Yes

00:27:21I have to say

00:27:22a situation

00:27:23really worrying

00:27:24already before

00:27:25that there was

00:27:26this precipitation

00:27:27snowy

00:27:28so violent

00:27:29that for years

00:27:30it couldn't be seen

00:27:30I also remember in Abruzzo

00:27:32those ten years

00:27:32that I was there

00:27:33there were some snowfalls

00:27:35Certain

00:27:35but no more

00:27:36powerful

00:27:37like this one

00:27:37which was really

00:27:38terrifying

00:27:39so much so that they thought about it

00:27:40that by now

00:27:40the snows

00:27:41on the Apennines

00:27:42should they fall

00:27:43we think that

00:27:44the glacier

00:27:45of Calderone

00:27:46right in the Gran Sasso

00:27:47was disappearing

00:27:48due to lack of snow

00:27:49this was instead

00:27:50one thing

00:27:51scary

00:27:52scary

00:27:52but that

00:27:53it also connects us

00:27:55to the fact that it is built

00:27:56Still

00:27:56not only

00:27:57to

00:28:00Bicopy

00:28:00but also

00:28:01in other areas

00:28:02of Abruzzo

00:28:02in a manner

00:28:03many times

00:28:05out of tune

00:28:05made with criteria

00:28:08anti-seismic

00:28:09non-functional

00:28:10also made

00:28:11on houses

00:28:12by now

00:28:12many times

00:28:13built

00:28:14three or four hundred years ago

00:28:16and completely

00:28:17at this point

00:28:17disconnected

00:28:18in their facilities

00:28:19it makes you understand

00:28:20that the damage

00:28:21as well as

00:28:22the earthquake

00:28:23besides the snow

00:28:23it is also given

00:28:24from the fact

00:28:24of inadequacy

00:28:26of the buildings

00:28:27but that there isn't

00:28:28not even a plan

00:28:29avalanches

00:28:29Here you are

00:28:30avalanche plan

00:28:32I imagine one

00:28:32of avalanche plan

00:28:33wedge point

00:28:34but think

00:28:35on the Apennines

00:28:36an avalanche plan

00:28:37there haven't been any

00:28:38episodes

00:28:39Like this

00:28:40terrifying

00:28:41like this

00:28:42which we witnessed

00:28:43for which

00:28:43Certainly

00:28:44they will be mine

00:28:44very careful

00:28:45because I am

00:28:46quite steep slopes

00:28:47strong

00:28:47and if it arrives

00:28:48a type

00:28:49of precipitation

00:28:50snowy

00:28:51so violent

00:28:52it can happen

00:28:53of everything

00:28:53and this

00:28:54In my opinion

00:28:55demonstrates

00:28:56as in the end

00:28:56today more and more

00:28:58the climate is changing

00:28:59despite the cold

00:29:01these days

00:29:02is changing

00:29:03in a manner

00:29:03really worrying

00:29:05and that is bringing

00:29:06of paroxysms

00:29:07climate

00:29:08how cold

00:29:09how hot

00:29:10that are only

00:29:11responsibility

00:29:12of man

00:29:13with its consumption

00:29:14of energies

00:29:15especially fossils

00:29:16that we are

00:29:16squandering

00:29:18in a manner

00:29:18absolutely

00:29:19irresponsible

00:29:20At that time

00:29:21in connection

00:29:22we still have

00:29:23Alessio Zucchini

00:29:24let's see if

00:29:25we can

00:29:26return

00:29:27from Alessio

00:29:29Zucchini

00:29:30from Penne

00:29:32We see

00:29:32there he is

00:29:33we are telling you

00:29:35these days

00:29:37of the commitment

00:29:37of the rescuers

00:29:38who work at height

00:29:39under conditions

00:29:40really prohibitive

00:29:41now we want you

00:29:42to give a demonstration

00:29:43of which they are

00:29:44some of the weapons

00:29:46of the rescuers

00:29:47to be able to recover

00:29:48the bodies

00:29:49of the missing

00:29:50At that time

00:29:50we do it with

00:29:51Gianni Gamba

00:29:52and with men

00:29:52of the mountain rescue

00:29:54We see

00:29:54let's simulate

00:29:55of having found

00:29:56through

00:29:57a parchiatura

00:29:58what is called

00:29:59ARVA

00:29:59a body

00:30:00precisely

00:30:00under the alene

00:30:01what's happening

00:30:02Gianni?

00:30:02yes exactly

00:30:03when it happens

00:30:04that comes

00:30:05buried

00:30:06from the avalanche

00:30:06it is essential

00:30:08the instrument

00:30:09which is the ARVA

00:30:10larva

00:30:11it's a tool

00:30:12which recognizes

00:30:13the signal

00:30:15of who is buried

00:30:17and you see

00:30:17coming close

00:30:18he plays

00:30:19in this way

00:30:20we can get there

00:30:21as close as possible

00:30:22to the patient

00:30:24but by itself

00:30:24that the ARVA

00:30:25they use it

00:30:26the mountaineers

00:30:26when they go

00:30:27in a roped party

00:30:28or when they come out

00:30:29and when maybe

00:30:29they remain buried

00:30:30of the avalanche

00:30:31in this case

00:30:31in this situation

00:30:32you can get there

00:30:33even with the nose

00:30:34of a dog

00:30:34for example

00:30:34or with equipment

00:30:35like thermal imaging cameras

00:30:36to identify

00:30:37the presence

00:30:37of someone

00:30:38then how do we proceed?

00:30:39then we proceed

00:30:40first of all

00:30:41all of those

00:30:42who venture out

00:30:42on snow-covered ground

00:30:44it is essential

00:30:45that they wear ARVA

00:30:46whoever

00:30:47not only the mountaineer

00:30:48but also the hiker

00:30:49or anyone

00:30:49he goes into a snowy terrain

00:30:51then precisely

00:30:52once

00:30:53buried

00:30:54the rescuer

00:30:56intervenes

00:30:57with that instrument

00:30:57that we saw before

00:30:58once

00:30:59given the place

00:31:01we go down

00:31:02with a probe

00:31:03until you find out

00:31:04the place

00:31:05which is believed

00:31:06as close as possible

00:31:08from that point there

00:31:09identified

00:31:10with a sensitivity

00:31:11of the rescuer

00:31:12the body

00:31:14we intervene

00:31:15with the shovel

00:31:16because obviously

00:31:18moving with your hands

00:31:19it would be impossible

00:31:20and would require

00:31:21very long times

00:31:22a shovel

00:31:23allows you

00:31:24to bring

00:31:25to breathe

00:31:27who is still left

00:31:28buried

00:31:28a shovel that looks like

00:31:29a small shovel

00:31:30it's actually a special shovel

00:31:31a very light shovel

00:31:32because obviously

00:31:32it should be carried in the backpack

00:31:34it is very robust

00:31:35but precisely

00:31:36it must be light

00:31:37why it is brought

00:31:38for maybe

00:31:39several hours

00:31:40from whom

00:31:41we'll be back tomorrow

00:31:42at high altitude

00:31:43why don't we stop

00:31:44they are looking for each other

00:31:45the survivors

00:31:46we were saying it

00:31:46the weather conditions

00:31:48they get worse

00:31:48there is also rain

00:31:50the heaviest black

00:31:51crush even more

00:31:52and it almost becomes concrete

00:31:53it becomes even more difficult

00:31:54but with what spirit

00:31:55we're going back up

00:31:56to search for people

00:31:57what are they down there?

00:31:58but the spirit is always

00:31:59that of the rescuer

00:32:00in the sense of

00:32:01positives

00:32:01and always

00:32:02with the idea

00:32:03to find someone alive

00:32:04or anyway

00:32:05to bring back

00:32:06At home

00:32:07who remained below

00:32:09that is definitely

00:32:10the main idea

00:32:11hope is

00:32:12let's say

00:32:12throw away your heart

00:32:13beyond the obstacle

00:32:14because hope

00:32:15to find someone alive

00:32:16exists

00:32:16and there is always

00:32:17as he said

00:32:17a few days ago

00:32:18the boss too

00:32:19of civil protection

00:32:20absolutely yes

00:32:21we really have to think

00:32:22that down there

00:32:22there are people alive

00:32:23and we have to do

00:32:24the first possible

00:32:25to take them away

00:32:26Emma to you

00:32:27Well yes

00:32:28hope

00:32:29the rescuer said it

00:32:30the hope of bringing

00:32:32still to life

00:32:33other people

00:32:34that are found

00:32:35under these slabs

00:32:36of ice

00:32:37At that time

00:32:38let's see with Carolina

00:32:39House

00:32:39the story

00:32:41of a

00:32:41of the nine

00:32:42survivors

00:32:43by Giorgia

00:32:44the first thing

00:32:45who said

00:32:45and it really is

00:32:47I get the shivers

00:32:49I'm Giorgia

00:32:50and I'm alive

00:32:51let's see the service

00:32:52by Carolina Casa

00:33:08locked in a box

00:33:10Georgia Galassi

00:33:1122 years old

00:33:11describes it like this

00:33:12from the hospital bed

00:33:13on Radio Giulia Nova

00:33:14the avalanche

00:33:15who buried them

00:33:16a vibration

00:33:17a roar

00:33:17that comes from above

00:33:18ever stronger

00:33:19120,000 tons

00:33:21of snow

00:33:21who travel

00:33:22at 100 km per hour

00:33:23we had

00:33:24all the snow above

00:33:26and then

00:33:26we didn't hear

00:33:27accepted all the noises

00:33:28we ate

00:33:29ice

00:33:30that was the luck

00:33:32the darkness and the thirst

00:33:33the mountain

00:33:34that comes down

00:33:35inside the hotel

00:33:36divides spaces

00:33:37and families

00:33:38Giorgia is with her boyfriend

00:33:39Vincenzo

00:33:39and another couple

00:33:40Giampaolo Matrone

00:33:41wound

00:33:42and his wife Valentina

00:33:43we were

00:33:44then I

00:33:44my boyfriend

00:33:45a girl

00:33:47that I met

00:33:48and a boy

00:33:50who had hurt himself

00:33:51who had been impressed

00:33:52from a sentence

00:33:53in the next room

00:33:54there is Adriana Parete

00:33:55that hugs itself

00:33:56his son Gianfilippo

00:33:57and he never leaves it again

00:33:58they will be the first

00:33:59to see the light again

00:34:00we are in communication

00:34:01with the lady

00:34:02who has a son

00:34:04with himself

00:34:05and we were close

00:34:07because after the impact

00:34:08we found ourselves close

00:34:09neighbors

00:34:10like three children

00:34:11prisoners

00:34:11in the billiard room

00:34:12Francesca Bronzi

00:34:13instead she is alone

00:34:14in a space

00:34:15very tight

00:34:15he can't even do it

00:34:16to stand up

00:34:17she shouts her boyfriend's name

00:34:19no one answers

00:34:20all washed up

00:34:21then finally

00:34:22those voices are coming

00:34:23from the outside

00:34:24and Giorgia answers

00:34:25we are alive

00:34:26we were convinced

00:34:27whatever happens

00:34:28someone was coming

00:34:30because it was impossible

00:34:31that no one

00:34:32he would have noticed us

00:34:33we knocked

00:34:35until I can't

00:34:36we screamed

00:34:37they told me

00:34:38who was there

00:34:39and we responded

00:34:40with our names

00:34:41they were

00:34:42helpful

00:34:43very, very much

00:34:43because they

00:34:44they were

00:34:45Always

00:34:46Always

00:34:46please us

00:34:47to talk to us

00:34:48to motivate us

00:34:48you all know it

00:34:50It's dawn on Friday

00:34:51the rescuers

00:34:52they speak through

00:34:53the hole

00:34:53open on the ceiling

00:34:54and they go and get them

00:34:56we are doing very well

00:34:57there is a sense

00:34:58that some

00:34:58little thing like that

00:34:59but nothing important

00:35:01Surely

00:35:02a miracle

00:35:04Giorgia has gone out

00:35:05from the box

00:35:06but in here

00:35:07they still remain

00:35:07the missing

00:35:11Georgia

00:35:12it's a

00:35:13of the nine

00:35:14survivors

00:35:15At that time

00:35:15let's see with

00:35:16Elizabeth Mirarchi

00:35:18who I am

00:35:19the others

00:35:20the others

00:35:20that I am

00:35:20at this moment

00:35:21we heard it before

00:35:22hospitalized

00:35:23to the hospital

00:35:24from Pescara

00:35:25let's see the service

00:35:28it seemed

00:35:29a bomb

00:35:30here's that

00:35:31who said

00:35:31I found myself

00:35:32with

00:35:33these pillars

00:35:34let's say

00:35:35sti

00:35:35above

00:35:36on me

00:35:37he was on the sofa

00:35:38the pillars

00:35:39practically

00:35:39he cut

00:35:40the sofa

00:35:40in two

00:35:41a friend is speaking

00:35:42by Vincenzo Forti

00:35:43the young manager

00:35:44of a pizzeria

00:35:45from Giulianova

00:35:46that with the student

00:35:47Georgia Galassi

00:35:48he had allowed himself

00:35:49a peaceful holiday

00:35:50in the resort

00:35:51Rigopiano

00:35:51They

00:35:52they made it

00:35:53have been extracted

00:35:55from the rescuers

00:35:56there is another person

00:35:58that at that moment

00:35:59he was outside

00:36:00from the hotel

00:36:01Fabio Salsetta

00:36:02the maintainer

00:36:03of the hotel

00:36:04it's him

00:36:05who more than anyone else

00:36:05he knows it by heart

00:36:07every corner

00:36:07of the structure

00:36:08and he

00:36:09that in these hours

00:36:10follows the huge

00:36:11work of rescuers

00:36:12indicates the places

00:36:14where one hopes

00:36:15let there be life

00:36:16I tried

00:36:17until

00:36:17I didn't make any blinds

00:36:18to call someone

00:36:20no one answered

00:36:21After

00:36:21they continued

00:36:23to snow

00:36:24there was another

00:36:24snow amazonometer

00:36:26it was impracticable

00:36:28risk

00:36:29to go there

00:36:31There are

00:36:31four children

00:36:32in this story

00:36:33that are experiencing

00:36:34the return to life

00:36:35Samuel by Michelangelo

00:36:37seven years

00:36:38and Edward of Charles

00:36:39nine years

00:36:40saved

00:36:41why were they

00:36:41playing billiards

00:36:42in another room

00:36:44far from adults

00:36:45here they found

00:36:47refuge

00:36:47something to eat

00:36:49to drink

00:36:49the children

00:36:50they were very good

00:36:52they will tell

00:36:52the survivors

00:36:53all the time

00:36:55they never cried

00:36:56they have never been

00:36:57discouraged

00:36:59Edward is alive

00:37:00but he remained alone

00:37:01they didn't make it

00:37:03nor the mother

00:37:04nor the father

00:37:05hours of anxiety

00:37:06of waiting

00:37:07also for parents

00:37:08of the little one

00:37:09Samuel

00:37:10thank you with all my heart

00:37:11to everyone

00:37:11he wrote

00:37:12on his profile

00:37:13Facebook

00:37:13simple words

00:37:15for an event

00:37:16absolutely

00:37:17extraordinary

00:37:18Giampiero

00:37:19wall

00:37:19the cook

00:37:20Pescara

00:37:21he escaped

00:37:21to the mountain

00:37:22of snow

00:37:23which overwhelmed

00:37:23the hotel

00:37:24he was worried

00:37:25he wanted to leave

00:37:27he was saved

00:37:28for a gesture

00:37:28of affection

00:37:29he had gone by car

00:37:30to take some medicine

00:37:32for the wife

00:37:32they will save

00:37:33she

00:37:34Adriana

00:37:35and the two children

00:37:36Gianfilippo

00:37:37and Ludovica

00:37:39he made it too

00:37:41Giampaolo Matrone

00:37:42of Monte Rotondo

00:37:43but they don't have them yet

00:37:44news

00:37:44of his partner

00:37:45of life

00:37:46they had granted themselves

00:37:47a weekend

00:37:48of relaxation

00:37:49leaving her daughter

00:37:505 years old

00:37:51to the grandparents

00:37:53tragedy averted

00:37:54and rescued

00:37:55in the night

00:37:56Francesca Bronzi

00:37:57by Silvi Marina

00:37:58no deep joy

00:38:01wait for Stefano

00:38:02her boyfriend

00:38:03Still

00:38:04among the missing

00:38:0511 survivors

00:38:07while it continues

00:38:08to dig

00:38:09to save

00:38:10the lives

00:38:10of who is still

00:38:11under the snow

00:38:12but also

00:38:12to give joy

00:38:14to those who have seen

00:38:14the light

00:38:18Raffaella Milano

00:38:19we saw

00:38:20above all

00:38:20the children

00:38:21the children

00:38:22came out

00:38:23extracts

00:38:24and you

00:38:25what are you

00:38:26doing

00:38:27in that area

00:38:28an area

00:38:28particularly

00:38:29difficult

00:38:30tortured

00:38:31and from August

00:38:32we were saying it

00:38:33Amateur

00:38:33now this too

00:38:35and what are you organizing?

00:38:36we were

00:38:37in the affected area

00:38:38from the earthquake

00:38:39right from the very next day

00:38:41to activate immediately

00:38:42of the centers

00:38:43child-friendly

00:38:45even in tent cities

00:38:47today in Amatrice

00:38:48we have a center

00:38:49socio-educational

00:38:50which is exactly

00:38:50trying to help

00:38:52children

00:38:53Boys

00:38:53families

00:38:54to rebuild

00:38:55a life

00:38:56what will be

00:38:57always different

00:38:58from that

00:38:58which was before

00:38:59and that nevertheless

00:39:01must find again

00:39:01of the elements

00:39:02of normality

00:39:03a job

00:39:04very important

00:39:05that's also it

00:39:05what is done

00:39:06with schools

00:39:06with the teachers

00:39:08because also

00:39:09the moment

00:39:10of meeting

00:39:11again

00:39:11with their own

00:39:12peers

00:39:13it's a moment

00:39:13fundamental

00:39:14for children

00:39:15and then

00:39:16it's important

00:39:16prepare

00:39:17teachers

00:39:18teachers

00:39:19we did it

00:39:19in the Marche

00:39:20we do it

00:39:21in Lazio

00:39:21in all areas

00:39:22hit

00:39:23prepare

00:39:24the teachers

00:39:25to speak

00:39:26with the children

00:39:26of what happened

00:39:27considering that often

00:39:29even the teachers themselves

00:39:30the same teachers

00:39:31they lived

00:39:32of mourning

00:39:33and situations

00:39:34difficult

00:39:35so it's important

00:39:36accompany the children

00:39:37but also

00:39:38accompany their adults

00:39:40of reference

00:39:41so make sure

00:39:42that adults

00:39:43are able

00:39:44here's to do

00:39:45what is right to do

00:39:46to help

00:39:47children

00:39:48to live a situation

00:39:49of this type

00:39:50Fulco Pratesi

00:39:52we were talking

00:39:53of the commission

00:39:54great risks

00:39:54of the eventuality

00:39:55of an earthquake

00:39:58devastating

00:39:58Here you are

00:39:59which ones they really are

00:40:00the risks

00:40:00in that area?

00:40:02they are risks

00:40:03by now

00:40:03Unfortunately

00:40:04not only in that area

00:40:05but across the planet

00:40:06but above all

00:40:07even in places

00:40:09so delicate

00:40:09like Italy

00:40:10and this unfortunately

00:40:11it is not possible

00:40:13to quantify

00:40:14nor to foresee

00:40:16which can be

00:40:17the risks

00:40:17worst

00:40:18from floods

00:40:19precisely

00:40:20to the landslides

00:40:20to earthquakes

00:40:23and all that

00:40:24which can be tied

00:40:25to a now

00:40:26to a change

00:40:27rapid climate

00:40:28for which we are responsible

00:40:30which causes

00:40:31these parochisms

00:40:32which then

00:40:32which we pay for

00:40:34then the expenses

00:40:34as we see here

00:40:36for example

00:40:36here at

00:40:37Rigopiano

00:40:38but it's everywhere

00:40:39Like this

00:40:39you have to prepare

00:40:40to everything

00:40:40also because

00:40:41things can

00:40:42get even worse

00:40:43the important thing

00:40:44to say

00:40:45for those who are

00:40:46unfortunately today

00:40:47still submit to you

00:40:48to this terrible

00:40:49stress

00:40:50that after so many years

00:40:52I remember

00:40:53the Abruzzo park

00:40:54those areas

00:40:55around

00:40:56at Lake Fucino

00:40:57and in Avezzano

00:40:58after that

00:40:59tremendous

00:41:00last

00:41:01which brought

00:41:02tens of thousands

00:41:03of people

00:41:04to die

00:41:04today he recovered

00:41:06perfectly

00:41:07has become

00:41:07an area

00:41:08most requested

00:41:09tourist

00:41:10and richer

00:41:11also from the point of view

00:41:12of animals

00:41:12and fauna

00:41:13I think these

00:41:14are the factors

00:41:15which then

00:41:15they invigorate

00:41:16even the recall

00:41:17of certain areas

00:41:19Certainly

00:41:19if one then

00:41:20he worries

00:41:20and it doesn't work anymore

00:41:21in the countries

00:41:22which can be

00:41:23hit by earthquakes

00:41:24or it doesn't work anymore

00:41:25in places

00:41:26where the snow

00:41:26can be

00:41:27so disastrous

00:41:28and then maybe

00:41:29we need to start

00:41:30to change

00:41:30Also

00:41:31lifestyles

00:41:32more cautious

00:41:33Perhaps

00:41:34but also

00:41:34less pleasant

00:41:35Luca Mercalli

00:41:37she spoke first

00:41:38of rains coming

00:41:39and unfortunately

00:41:39in the editorial office

00:41:40they brought me

00:41:41an agency

00:41:41torrent

00:41:42overflows

00:41:42and overwhelms

00:41:43a car

00:41:43a dead man

00:41:44this happens

00:41:45in the Palermo area

00:41:47then some rains

00:41:47incessant

00:41:48that are hitting

00:41:49above all

00:41:50Sicily

00:41:55Yes

00:41:55and then

00:41:56they will extend

00:41:57Tomorrow

00:41:58although

00:41:58with an intensity

00:41:59a little lower

00:42:00in that area

00:42:01but

00:42:01Certainly

00:42:02they will not facilitate

00:42:04the operations

00:42:05of rescue

00:42:06it's about

00:42:07Anyway

00:42:07of an episode

00:42:08important

00:42:09This

00:42:10that we have

00:42:10lived

00:42:11practically

00:42:11from the Epiphany

00:42:12on the slope

00:42:14Adriatic

00:42:15of the Apennines

00:42:16but less

00:42:16exceptional

00:42:17how much

00:42:17think about it

00:42:18Indeed

00:42:19the memory

00:42:20it's always

00:42:21brief

00:42:21about the episodes

00:42:23on events

00:42:24natural

00:42:24extremes

00:42:25because already

00:42:25we have

00:42:26removed

00:42:26and deleted

00:42:27the great

00:42:28snowstorm

00:42:29of February

00:42:312012

00:42:31we are talking

00:42:325 years ago

00:42:33which struck

00:42:34an area

00:42:35of the Apennines

00:42:35just a hundred

00:42:36of kilometers

00:42:37further north

00:42:38of Abruzzo

00:42:39that is the part

00:42:39from the Marche region

00:42:40we were

00:42:41Indeed

00:42:42with heights

00:42:43of snow

00:42:43of over

00:42:44two meters

00:42:44in the middle

00:42:45of the city

00:42:45from Urbino

00:42:46where today

00:42:47there is a meter

00:42:48so a phenomenon

00:42:49absolutely

00:42:50comparable

00:42:51to that

00:42:51who lived

00:42:52Abruzzo

00:42:53it was little more

00:42:54north

00:42:55in case

00:42:55of the episode

00:42:56of February

00:42:572012

00:42:58so here it is

00:42:59the Apennines

00:43:00it's an area

00:43:01subjected

00:43:02to the possibility

00:43:03of imposing

00:43:04snowfall

00:43:05with large

00:43:06accumulations

00:43:07on short

00:43:08durations

00:43:08of two

00:43:09three days

00:43:10Certainly

00:43:11of events

00:43:11extremes

00:43:12they won't be able to

00:43:12do something else

00:43:13in the future

00:43:13that increase

00:43:14will increase

00:43:15evidently

00:43:16the most

00:43:17tending to be hot

00:43:19Therefore

00:43:19summer temperatures

00:43:21heatwaves

00:43:22Therefore

00:43:23periods of drought

00:43:25and floods

00:43:26but

00:43:27occasionally

00:43:28also episodes

00:43:29which concern

00:43:30snow

00:43:30and cold

00:43:31they will be able to

00:43:32see

00:43:33a greater

00:43:33frequency

00:43:34Why

00:43:35the whole system

00:43:36climate

00:43:37at the level

00:43:37global

00:43:38is changing

00:43:39at this moment

00:43:40the heat

00:43:41it's on the north pole

00:43:43we don't care

00:43:44not much

00:43:45because they are places

00:43:46remote

00:43:46where it doesn't happen

00:43:47nothing interesting

00:43:49from the point of view

00:43:50of human chatter

00:43:52but at this moment

00:43:54at the North Pole

00:43:55a million and a half is missing

00:43:56of square kilometers

00:43:58of ice

00:43:58of ice floe

00:43:59it's a surface

00:44:00huge

00:44:01due to the fact

00:44:02that the ocean

00:44:03it's too hot

00:44:05and then the ice

00:44:05this year

00:44:06it does not form

00:44:07imbalances of this kind

00:44:08I am able

00:44:09to influence

00:44:10even then

00:44:10on the European climate

00:44:11and we saw it

00:44:14from the images

00:44:16this hotel

00:44:17practically

00:44:17covered

00:44:18from the ice

00:44:20from the snow

00:44:21this avalanche

00:44:22this avalanche

00:44:23which has fallen

00:44:24think

00:44:25and the experts say

00:44:26the weight fell

00:44:27of 4,000 trucks

00:44:29fully loaded

00:44:30We see

00:44:31the service

00:44:32by Igor Stagliano

00:44:34she rushed

00:44:36at 100 kilometers per hour

00:44:37from 1700 meters

00:44:39of altitude

00:44:40on one front

00:44:40300 meters

00:44:41with an enormous weight

00:44:43120,000 tons

00:44:45equal to 4,000 trucks

00:44:46fully loaded

00:44:48it is the immense force

00:44:49of the avalanche

00:44:49which overwhelmed

00:44:50the Rigopiano hotel

00:44:52crossing

00:44:53the gully

00:44:53behind him

00:44:54nevertheless

00:44:55the territory

00:44:56of Farindola

00:44:56it was not understood

00:44:57in the excerpt

00:44:58of the paper

00:44:59of localization

00:45:00of probable avalanches

00:45:02completed

00:45:03from civil protection

00:45:04regional

00:45:04in 2016

00:45:07the earthquakes

00:45:08they are not foreseen

00:45:09but the avalanches

00:45:10they can be

00:45:10kept under control

00:45:12to date

00:45:12the four regions

00:45:14affected by the earthquake

00:45:15in central Italy

00:45:15I am instead

00:45:16all late

00:45:18on the drafting

00:45:19of the paper

00:45:19provided for by a law

00:45:20of 1992

00:45:21according to the survey

00:45:23national

00:45:24carried out by the association

00:45:25interregional

00:45:26snow and avalanches

00:45:27only the brands

00:45:28they completed

00:45:29the mapping

00:45:29of their territory

00:45:31Abruzzo is at a standstill

00:45:32at 5%

00:45:33Molise

00:45:33at 30%

00:45:34and Lazio

00:45:35he did not communicate

00:45:36no data

00:45:39meanwhile

00:45:40between yesterday and today

00:45:40the degree of danger

00:45:41avalanches

00:45:42it was raised

00:45:43from 4 to 5%

00:45:44strong danger

00:45:45the rescuers

00:45:46they will have

00:45:47of a radar

00:45:48Doppler

00:45:48with alert

00:45:49sound

00:45:50which will signal

00:45:51snow

00:45:51and travel

00:45:52of the background

00:45:55they will each have

00:45:57an artva

00:45:57the electronic device

00:45:59for research

00:46:00of those who are overwhelmed

00:46:01in an avalanche

00:46:01the technology

00:46:02more advanced

00:46:03so

00:46:04to continue

00:46:04rescue

00:46:05and research

00:46:06of the missing

00:46:07in weather conditions

00:46:08that get worse

00:46:09the painting

00:46:10in which they operate

00:46:11of facts

00:46:12the last report

00:46:13of the commission

00:46:14great risks

00:46:15invites you to keep

00:46:16keep your guard up

00:46:17active faults

00:46:18from August 24th

00:46:192016

00:46:20they still have

00:46:21a potential

00:46:22high

00:46:22of energy

00:46:23enough to produce

00:46:24earthquakes

00:46:25of magnitude

00:46:266 or 7

00:46:27it's written

00:46:28in the document

00:46:29envoy

00:46:29to protection

00:46:30national civil

00:46:31this sequence

00:46:32it's not yet

00:46:33finished

00:46:34it's still active

00:46:35and is going through

00:46:37the whole series

00:46:38of faults

00:46:39that go

00:46:40from the northwest

00:46:41let's say

00:46:41above

00:46:42with the flowery

00:46:43below

00:46:43towards

00:46:44the Tosto Field

00:46:45and the Eagle

00:46:46under observation

00:46:48the three dams

00:46:49of the pelvis

00:46:49of Campo Tosto

00:46:50the second invasion

00:46:51bigger

00:46:52of Europe

00:46:52no critical issues

00:46:54from the checks

00:46:55carried out in these days

00:46:56on the structures

00:46:57Enel says

00:46:58in a press release

00:46:59there is no danger

00:47:01imminent

00:47:01of effect

00:47:02vaiont

00:47:02precise

00:47:03in turn

00:47:04the commission

00:47:05great risks

00:47:05we can't

00:47:06be reassuring

00:47:08but we don't want to

00:47:09don't even create panic

00:47:10he concluded

00:47:11the president

00:47:12Bertolucci

00:47:13let's avoid panic

00:47:14the thermotes

00:47:15they cannot be predicted

00:47:16but you can

00:47:17for sure to say

00:47:18that is a seismic zone

00:47:20so there will be

00:47:21earthquakes

00:47:22a summit

00:47:23on the large dams

00:47:24of the seismic zone

00:47:25he was summoned

00:47:26for tomorrow

00:47:27to the ministry

00:47:28of the infrastructure

00:47:29from the minister

00:47:30of the Rio

00:47:32it's clear

00:47:33we must remember this

00:47:34that on the avalanche

00:47:35on the avalanche

00:47:36which has fallen

00:47:37about the hotel

00:47:38there is an investigation

00:47:39in progress

00:47:39just today

00:47:40the prosecutor

00:47:41he was speaking

00:47:42of the risks

00:47:43he did not expose himself

00:47:44Obviously

00:47:44to make assessments

00:47:45on the construction

00:47:48of the hotel

00:47:48and of this

00:47:49we'll talk about it

00:47:50but

00:47:50he said clearly

00:47:52the prosecutor

00:47:54it was necessary to evaluate

00:47:55the risks

00:47:56above all

00:47:56monitor

00:47:57the risks

00:47:58among other things

00:47:58this evening

00:47:59the prime minister

00:48:01Gentiloni

00:48:01he said

00:48:02own

00:48:03these words

00:48:03It's an emergency

00:48:04extraordinary

00:48:05a concatenation

00:48:07deadly

00:48:08between a snowfall

00:48:09that was not seen

00:48:10for 45 years

00:48:12and then

00:48:12the tremors

00:48:13we said it before

00:48:14Carlo Doglioni

00:48:15Really

00:48:16a

00:48:18let's say

00:48:18a concatenation

00:48:19deadly

00:48:20but as I was saying

00:48:22Before

00:48:22actually

00:48:23in the past

00:48:24they happened

00:48:25many times

00:48:25these situations

00:48:27in peacetime

00:48:29that is, when there are none

00:48:30major earthquakes

00:48:31in Italy there are

00:48:32on average

00:48:3315,000 earthquakes

00:48:34per year

00:48:35from August 24th

00:48:37to date

00:48:38probably

00:48:39in two days

00:48:40we will reach

00:48:40the 50,000 earthquakes

00:48:42so it means

00:48:43that in these

00:48:445 months

00:48:4450,000

00:48:45from?

00:48:4550,000 earthquakes

00:48:46from August 24th

00:48:48Therefore

00:48:48it means that

00:48:49a very high number

00:48:50that's exactly what it is

00:48:51we are

00:48:52during the phase

00:48:54we are still

00:48:55during the phase

00:48:56seismic

00:48:56so we are

00:48:57in full sequence

00:48:59so it is possible

00:49:00that there is still

00:49:01an earthquake

00:49:02there isn't one yet

00:49:04others

00:49:04a swarm

00:49:05or earthquakes?

00:49:06At that time

00:49:06we can't do it

00:49:07to exclude

00:49:07precisely because

00:49:08we don't know

00:49:09how much of that part

00:49:10especially in the sector

00:49:12southern

00:49:12of the sequence

00:49:13which is long

00:49:14almost 60 km

00:49:15which activated

00:49:16about 7,000 km

00:49:17cubes

00:49:18of the crust

00:49:19penile

00:49:20that have slipped

00:49:21in some places

00:49:21even 4 meters

00:49:22in the southern part

00:49:24part of this volume

00:49:26it hasn't come down yet

00:49:27or it only went down partially

00:49:29what is not yet

00:49:30fallen

00:49:31and somehow

00:49:32moved along these faults

00:49:34that border

00:49:34and that pass by

00:49:35through also

00:49:36Lake Campotosto

00:49:37that's what we

00:49:39obviously worries

00:49:40and for that

00:49:40we had

00:49:41of the meetings

00:49:42in this sense

00:49:43and we are looking for

00:49:44to evaluate

00:49:44Certainly

00:49:45the ISG office

00:49:46supervisor

00:49:47together with civil protection

00:49:48is evaluating

00:49:49the possible risk

00:49:50and for this

00:49:51what I was telling her

00:49:51which in my opinion

00:49:52we need to start

00:49:53to have a culture

00:49:54of knowledge

00:49:56of the territory

00:49:56both from a point of view

00:49:57seismic

00:49:58of landslides

00:49:59of volcanoes

00:50:00and a bulletin

00:50:02weekly

00:50:02in which citizens

00:50:03they are informed

00:50:04they come constantly

00:50:06somehow

00:50:06involved

00:50:07in knowledge

00:50:08because otherwise

00:50:09they remove the problem

00:50:10they don't ask any

00:50:11never

00:50:12the reason

00:50:12the earthquakes

00:50:13it's clear

00:50:14they can't be done

00:50:14we know it very well

00:50:15foresee

00:50:16maybe the avalanches

00:50:17and the snowfalls

00:50:18exceptional

00:50:19probably yes

00:50:21it had to be given way

00:50:24perhaps with more attention

00:50:25also to requests

00:50:26for help

00:50:27let's go to Alessio

00:50:28here I see it

00:50:28Alessio Zucchini

00:50:31you said it

00:50:32a little while ago

00:50:33Emma

00:50:33there is an investigation

00:50:34in progress

00:50:35of the prosecution

00:50:35from Pescara

00:50:36the magistrates

00:50:37they continue

00:50:38to hear

00:50:38the witnesses

00:50:39they started

00:50:40two days ago

00:50:41we are investigating

00:50:42for murder

00:50:42negligent

00:50:43multiple

00:50:44and disaster

00:50:45negligent

00:50:45two days ago

00:50:46the prosecutor's office

00:50:47he seized

00:50:48in the province

00:50:49in the prefecture

00:50:50of the documents

00:50:50it's about

00:50:51bulletins

00:50:52snow

00:50:53of plans

00:50:53snow guard

00:50:54and then there is something to clarify

00:50:55he will do it

00:50:56the investigation

00:50:56even the presence

00:50:57of this turbine

00:50:58route

00:50:59and never repaired

00:51:00which would be

00:51:02could have served

00:51:03to free

00:51:04the road

00:51:05from the snow

00:51:05and then do

00:51:06evacuate

00:51:07the people

00:51:08that were found

00:51:09in the hotel

00:51:09Rigopiano

00:51:10and then there is the question

00:51:11of the alarm

00:51:12this alarm

00:51:13that he would have left

00:51:14from the hotel

00:51:15several hours

00:51:16before the avalanche

00:51:17in the morning

00:51:18an email sent

00:51:19from the management

00:51:20of the hotel

00:51:21who was asking

00:51:21just help

00:51:22he was talking about conditions

00:51:23worrying

00:51:24and of people

00:51:25terrified

00:51:26in that hotel

00:51:27this purpose

00:51:28We see

00:51:29the service

00:51:29of the other envoy

00:51:30Giacinto Pinto

00:51:327 in the morning

00:51:33on Wednesday

00:51:34January 18th

00:51:35in the operations center

00:51:36of the province

00:51:37from Pescara

00:51:38the first one arrives

00:51:39request

00:51:39of a turbine

00:51:40for Rigopiano

00:51:41there is one in Rieti

00:51:42but it is considered

00:51:43too far away

00:51:44the whole of Abruzzo

00:51:45at that moment

00:51:46it is in full emergency

00:51:47between earthquake and snow

00:51:49to the avalanche warning

00:51:50the municipality of Farindola

00:51:51had arrived

00:51:52I don't know of any

00:51:53that had arrived

00:51:53because these days

00:51:54we had

00:51:54actually

00:51:56the phones

00:51:57unreachable

00:51:58no response

00:51:59at 3.44pm

00:52:00also gets

00:52:02this email

00:52:02desperate from the hotel

00:52:04and addressed

00:52:05to the authorities

00:52:06competent

00:52:06to write it

00:52:07the director

00:52:08of the structure

00:52:09in the first line

00:52:10it is read

00:52:11the situation

00:52:12worrying

00:52:13and then

00:52:13the customers

00:52:14they are terrified

00:52:15and then again

00:52:16they are willing

00:52:17to spend

00:52:18the night in the car

00:52:19a cry of alarm

00:52:20which remains

00:52:21unheard

00:52:22an hour and a half

00:52:23After

00:52:23the avalanche

00:52:24for a few hours now

00:52:26Before

00:52:2620 km from there

00:52:27there was in action

00:52:28the turbine

00:52:28bigger

00:52:29of the fleet

00:52:30of ANAS

00:52:30but nobody

00:52:31he had alerted her

00:52:32to go and bring

00:52:34first aid

00:52:35in Rigopiano

00:52:37at the management table

00:52:38of the emergency

00:52:38of the prefecture

00:52:39from Pescara

00:52:39at 6pm

00:52:40it was requested

00:52:40to all present

00:52:41the urgent need

00:52:43to have a turbine

00:52:44that could

00:52:45go to the rescue

00:52:46and first for the whole day

00:52:48no one told you

00:52:48that we had to go there?

00:52:49Absolutely not

00:52:51there was none

00:52:52priority

00:52:53of Rigopiano

00:52:54compared to the others

00:52:56fractions

00:52:57on all these delays

00:52:58investigate now

00:52:59the Pescara prosecutor's office

00:53:00in the investigation

00:53:01for negligent disaster

00:53:02and murder

00:53:03multiple negligence

00:53:04the investigators

00:53:05in the meantime they are looking

00:53:06that operator

00:53:07of the emergency number

00:53:08who thought

00:53:09it was a joke

00:53:10the first phone call

00:53:12of request for help

00:53:13to which

00:53:14others followed

00:53:15there is one thing

00:53:16in Rigopiano

00:53:16very serious

00:53:17the whole hotel collapsed

00:53:19the hotel collapsed

00:53:20in Rigopiano

00:53:23Pratesi

00:53:23in just a few seconds

00:53:25why we have to give

00:53:25the line to advertising

00:53:27I announced it

00:53:29we saw it in the service

00:53:30it was underestimated

00:53:31not only the risk

00:53:32but also

00:53:33how to say

00:53:34requests for help

00:53:35Certain

00:53:36definitely underrated

00:53:37Then

00:53:37the testimonies

00:53:38they are very explicit

00:53:40Certain

00:53:40we need to think about it more

00:53:41but

00:53:42Unfortunately

00:53:43Italy

00:53:43it's not a country

00:53:43which provides

00:53:44it's not a country

00:53:45that is preparing

00:53:46it's not a country

00:53:46which maintains

00:53:47certain situations

00:53:48also of defense

00:53:50for which

00:53:50we are made like this

00:53:51we are happy

00:53:52pleasant

00:53:53but many times

00:53:53we are unprepared

00:53:54to suffer

00:53:55certain consequences

00:53:56of certain of our imprudences

00:53:58and also

00:53:59of carelessness

00:54:00then we stop

00:54:02for a few seconds

00:54:03then we come back

00:54:04in the studio

00:54:05advertising

00:54:16but this olive

00:54:18it comes from that olive tree there

00:54:19Yes

00:54:20miraculous

00:54:21an olive tree

00:54:22that makes olives

00:54:22without nuts

00:54:24ah

00:54:24it clà

00:54:26from the best of the olive trees

00:54:27the best of olives

00:54:28it clà

00:54:35chase new sensations

00:54:37then find out

00:54:38a new concept

00:54:39driving

00:54:39208 with Peugeot

00:54:41iCockpit

00:54:41yours for 10,900 euros

00:54:43super equipped

00:54:44with alloy wheels too

00:54:45LED headlights

00:54:46and climate

00:54:46come on Sunday too

00:54:47Peugeot

00:55:12feel free

00:55:13it makes me happy

00:55:13like when I throw myself

00:55:15with the parachute

00:55:16I would like to try

00:55:17certain sensations

00:55:18up to 90 years

00:55:21a freedom

00:55:22but this time

00:55:22I wouldn't take it personally

00:55:24wear a seat belt in the car

00:55:25I would always keep it fastened

00:55:31go back

00:55:32it's impossible

00:55:33stay on track

00:55:34travel with seatbelts

00:55:36of safety

00:55:37front and rear

00:55:38tied up

00:55:38it's an obligation

00:55:39that can save your life

00:55:47tell me why you're crying

00:55:49of happiness

00:55:52and why don't you eat

00:55:54I don't feel like it now

00:55:57tell me why you're squeezing

00:55:59maybe my hands

00:56:02and with your thoughts

00:56:04you move away

00:56:07everyone sings Sanremo

00:56:15in South Tyrol

00:56:17everything is a mirror of quality

00:56:23like Forst Kronen

00:56:25the most loved

00:56:26of our beers

00:56:27Forest

00:56:28the beer

00:56:29from South Tyrol

00:56:51new fast Giulia

00:56:52yours for 210 euros a month

00:56:54with navigator

00:56:5518" alloy wheels

00:56:56Big Xenon headlights

00:56:57and integral fraction Q4

00:57:15We're back in the studio

00:57:17Luca Mercalli

00:57:19she followed

00:57:21the connections

00:57:22followed the services

00:57:23it comes to mind

00:57:24what

00:57:25these days

00:57:26we read

00:57:27several times

00:57:28in the newspapers

00:57:30in the newspapers

00:57:30stepmother nature

00:57:31it doesn't exist

00:57:33but she doesn't think

00:57:34that it has been underestimated

00:57:36but really underrated

00:57:38the risk

00:57:40the risk

00:57:41but also the alarms

00:57:42it was underestimated

00:57:43Certain

00:57:45it was underestimated

00:57:46meanwhile

00:57:47weather risk

00:57:48in the sense that

00:57:49while the earthquakes

00:57:50they cannot rightly be

00:57:51foresee

00:57:52or at least

00:57:52it can't be said

00:57:53the exact moment

00:57:55and the exact location

00:57:56where they will happen

00:57:57with regard to

00:57:58the weather conditions

00:58:00with the massive snowfall

00:58:01the forecasts

00:58:02at least this

00:58:03they told us

00:58:04with about three days

00:58:05in advance

00:58:06Therefore

00:58:07certainly

00:58:08in this area

00:58:09there had to be

00:58:10a surveillance

00:58:11above average

00:58:12and also

00:58:13a question

00:58:14if that place

00:58:16was a place

00:58:17where maybe

00:58:18stop

00:58:19the transit

00:58:20and avoid

00:58:21what new customers

00:58:22flowed in

00:58:23at the hotel

00:58:24these things

00:58:24they are normally done

00:58:25and with a risk

00:58:26of avalanches

00:58:27four out of five

00:58:28it could have been

00:58:29a good choice

00:58:30preventive

00:58:32then there is instead

00:58:33the appearance

00:58:34long-term

00:58:35that is, the evaluation

00:58:36if the gully

00:58:37it was a gully

00:58:38from an avalanche

00:58:39to see him

00:58:40from morphology

00:58:41it seems so

00:58:42now it's time to see

00:58:43if in history

00:58:44of these places

00:58:45there have been

00:58:46avalanches in the past

00:58:47that they left

00:58:48to foretell

00:58:49a particular risk

00:58:50for the hotel

00:58:51exposed there

00:58:52but definitely

00:58:53already looking

00:58:53the images

00:58:54satellites

00:58:55aerial

00:58:56it would seem

00:58:57a place

00:58:57very exposed

00:58:58at the base

00:58:58of a conoid

00:58:59and finally

00:59:00I join

00:59:01to all this

00:59:02which is already

00:59:03it was said

00:59:03Before

00:59:04in Italy

00:59:04we have to do

00:59:05so much education

00:59:07to protection

00:59:08civil

00:59:08be that one

00:59:09of the institutions

00:59:10premises

00:59:11and let that be it

00:59:12of people

00:59:13that is, we have to

00:59:14to be capable

00:59:14of cars

00:59:15protect us

00:59:17avoiding

00:59:18first of all

00:59:19to put ourselves

00:59:20in trouble

00:59:20with our hands

00:59:22listen to her

00:59:23has next to him

00:59:24a map

00:59:25he explains to us

00:59:26what is it about

00:59:28we don't know

00:59:29interpret it

00:59:30Obviously

00:59:31it's simply

00:59:31a map

00:59:32of forecast

00:59:33meteorological

00:59:34for the next few days

00:59:35We see

00:59:36in particular

00:59:37there is a green area

00:59:38closed

00:59:39a bit

00:59:39in a circle

00:59:40it's depression

00:59:42Mediterranean

00:59:43that at this moment

00:59:44is carrying

00:59:44the heavy rains

00:59:45on Sicily

00:59:46on Sardinia

00:59:48and that will bring

00:59:48the rain

00:59:49between tomorrow

00:59:49and the day after tomorrow

00:59:50Also

00:59:50on the Apennines

00:59:52this area

00:59:53low pressure

00:59:54it's going to get saturated

00:59:55in the next few days

00:59:56and then

00:59:57the anticyclone

00:59:58that is, the yellow part

00:59:59what do you see

01:00:00he will then take

01:00:01possession

01:00:02of the entire area

01:00:03Italian

01:00:04and precisely

01:00:04it will be that

01:00:05that starting

01:00:06from Wednesday

01:00:07will finally bring

01:00:08quieter times

01:00:10everywhere

01:00:10including the sun

01:00:11also on the areas

01:00:13of the Gran Sasso

01:00:14and we hope so

01:00:14thanks to Luca

01:00:15Mercalli

01:00:16thanks for being

01:00:17been with us

01:00:18At that time

01:00:18we're going

01:00:19instead from another

01:00:20of our correspondents

01:00:22Enrica Maio

01:00:23here it is

01:00:24Enrica

01:00:24in the meantime where are you?

01:00:26Yes

01:00:27good evening Emma

01:00:28I find myself

01:00:30near the COC

01:00:31practically

01:00:31with pens

01:00:32and at this moment

01:00:34it is raining

01:00:35as you can see

01:00:36let's see the snow

01:00:38that is melting

01:00:39naturally

01:00:40the rescuers

01:00:41they continue to work

01:00:42to dig

01:00:43a little while ago

01:00:43they're back

01:00:4460 police officers

01:00:45of the fire

01:00:46and many more

01:00:48also of the rescue

01:00:49Alpine

01:00:49you see

01:00:50they continue

01:00:50to return

01:00:52machines

01:00:52While

01:00:53towards the hotel

01:00:54redugopiano

01:00:55they arrive

01:00:56others

01:00:57rescuers

01:00:58us today

01:00:59we did

01:01:00a tour

01:01:01in various countries

01:01:02of this area

01:01:03they were

01:01:04as you know

01:01:05all affected

01:01:06from this emergency

01:01:07from this great

01:01:07tragedy

01:01:08there is one

01:01:09in particular

01:01:10which unfortunately

01:01:11he paid

01:01:12a price

01:01:13very tall

01:01:13a tribute

01:01:14very tall

01:01:15it's Loreto Aprutino

01:01:16the country

01:01:17of the child

01:01:19of the little one

01:01:20Edward

01:01:20who was saved

01:01:21along with three others

01:01:22him

01:01:23as you know

01:01:24precisely

01:01:24he is an orphan

01:01:26the parents

01:01:26they didn't make it

01:01:27we have heard

01:01:28friends

01:01:29the relatives

01:01:30see the service

01:01:31and then the line

01:01:32come back to you

01:01:32Loreto Aprutino

01:01:34it's the country

01:01:34who paid

01:01:35the highest tribute

01:01:36two families

01:01:37broken

01:01:37from the avalanche

01:01:38that of the little one

01:01:39Edward

01:01:39eight years old

01:01:40who was saved

01:01:41with three other children

01:01:42while his parents

01:01:44Sebastiano and Nadia

01:01:44they died

01:01:45it's Piero's

01:01:46and Barbara

01:01:47husband and wife

01:01:48he is among the missing

01:01:49she didn't make it

01:01:51we don't know what to say

01:01:53true madam

01:01:55it's a sad moment

01:01:58for everyone

01:01:59Barbara's mother

01:02:01fifteen days ago

01:02:02he cried a lot

01:02:04for a cousin of mine

01:02:06who is dead

01:02:07and dies

01:02:07to see

01:02:08that his trouble

01:02:10it was close

01:02:11that Barbara

01:02:12Unfortunately

01:02:13he was there

01:02:13and he didn't make it

01:02:14he didn't make it

01:02:17a daughter

01:02:18alone

01:02:18what we want to do

01:02:21God knows

01:02:23but

01:02:24shouldn't

01:02:27punish us with sewing

01:02:28that's what I say

01:02:30the mountains

01:02:32this time

01:02:33they betrayed you

01:02:34Yes

01:02:35Yes

01:02:37they betrayed us

01:02:39the mountains

01:02:42Piero

01:02:43for everyone

01:02:43in the village

01:02:44and more than a friend

01:02:45former footballer

01:02:47he played at San Siro

01:02:48in '84

01:02:48the Italian Cup match

01:02:50he was

01:02:51on the bench

01:02:52when he played

01:02:53Francavilla

01:02:54Inter

01:02:55he was a kid

01:02:57the coach

01:02:58it seems to me that it was

01:02:58Bertuccioli

01:02:59and took him to the bench

01:03:01he was

01:03:01at San Siro

01:03:02over the years

01:03:03a boy

01:03:04splendid

01:03:05Sebastiano and Nadia

01:03:06they were the owners

01:03:08of a pizzeria

01:03:08on the main street

01:03:09of the country

01:03:10everyone knew them

01:03:11I was a friend

01:03:12of poor Sebastiano

01:03:14that is no longer there

01:03:14Sebastiano and Nadia

01:03:16wife and husband

01:03:17they have three children

01:03:19they are golden children

01:03:21That

01:03:23Sebastiano and Nadia

01:03:24they cuddled them

01:03:25because they were

01:03:26Truly

01:03:27a family

01:03:28very united

01:03:28and beautiful

01:03:29the only miracle

01:03:30it's true that there was

01:03:31is that at least

01:03:32Sebastian's son

01:03:33he was saved

01:03:34and the child

01:03:34he will come home

01:03:35from the brothers

01:03:36from the uncles

01:03:37from those who love him

01:03:38that's fine

01:03:40Edward has two brothers

01:03:43this child will have

01:03:47many brothers

01:03:48the whole country

01:03:49No?

01:03:56Enrica

01:03:57we saw you

01:03:58you heard

01:03:58their stories

01:04:00their sadness

01:04:01which is really

01:04:03really a lot

01:04:03but they

01:04:04they had understood

01:04:06that there was

01:04:06a situation

01:04:07so serious

01:04:08that the situation

01:04:08could then

01:04:09to transform

01:04:10and become

01:04:11so serious

01:04:15I do not believe

01:04:17I do not believe

01:04:17who had understood it

01:04:18On the contrary

01:04:18many of them

01:04:19they are angry

01:04:22everyone

01:04:23On the contrary

01:04:23a good part

01:04:24of the country

01:04:24there are 6,000

01:04:25inhabitants

01:04:26they told me

01:04:27that they would have wanted

01:04:29Obviously

01:04:30they would have wanted

01:04:31that things

01:04:32In short

01:04:33they went

01:04:34otherwise

01:04:35now they

01:04:35they continue to hope

01:04:36for Piero

01:04:37Di Pietro

01:04:38which is

01:04:39the father

01:04:40of two girls

01:04:42it's clear

01:04:42that they

01:04:43they hoped

01:04:44that maybe

01:04:44the rescue

01:04:45could arrive

01:04:46Before

01:04:46that maybe

01:04:47someone

01:04:48could

01:04:49somehow

01:04:50to be perhaps

01:04:52equipped

01:04:53someone said

01:04:54that the owner

01:04:55Mr.

01:04:56of the red

01:04:57should have

01:04:59to be

01:05:00In short

01:05:01more organized

01:05:03that area

01:05:04the flat earth

01:05:05he was located

01:05:06Surely

01:05:07in one place

01:05:08not particularly

01:05:10easy

01:05:11Therefore

01:05:11the entire population

01:05:14the whole country

01:05:15not only

01:05:15he's taken

01:05:16from despair

01:05:17but also

01:05:17from anger

01:05:18many have told me

01:05:20perhaps this tragedy

01:05:21it could have been avoided

01:05:22Thank you

01:05:24Enrica

01:05:24Thank you

01:05:26for your work

01:05:27meanwhile

01:05:28I wanted

01:05:28speak

01:05:30with the

01:05:30Raffaella Milano

01:05:31we heard

01:05:32of the child

01:05:33Edward

01:05:34we saw

01:05:35in the service

01:05:36so if it's easy

01:05:37it will be easy

01:05:38for other children

01:05:40to buy back

01:05:41serenity

01:05:42the joy

01:05:43which is typical

01:05:43of course for this child

01:05:45and this gives us

01:05:46so much sadness

01:05:47it won't be

01:05:47it won't be that easy

01:05:49he has brothers

01:05:50bigger ones

01:05:51it's important

01:05:51as in all cases

01:05:53of children

01:05:53who remain orphans

01:05:55in situations

01:05:56difficult

01:05:57traumatic

01:05:58of this type

01:05:59they become very

01:06:00important

01:06:01the adults

01:06:02of reference

01:06:03the uncles

01:06:04the brothers

01:06:04the grandparents

01:06:05the community

01:06:06as we have heard

01:06:08it will be the point

01:06:10of reference

01:06:10fundamental

01:06:11what he will have to do

01:06:13to enhance

01:06:14those aspects

01:06:15positives

01:06:15of relationship

01:06:16that the child already

01:06:17had with them

01:06:18you don't have to

01:06:18what

01:06:19it explains itself

01:06:20in these cases

01:06:21family members

01:06:21you don't have to

01:06:22become different

01:06:23you don't have to

01:06:24to transform

01:06:25you can't

01:06:25change

01:06:26the relationship

01:06:27but we have to

01:06:28take

01:06:29what is positive

01:06:30it was built

01:06:31and work

01:06:32on that

01:06:32to accompany

01:06:33the boys

01:06:34to become

01:06:34then adults

01:06:35Fulco Pratesi

01:06:37she in part

01:06:38he was talking about it

01:06:39Before

01:06:40very often

01:06:41we in Italy

01:06:42we are better

01:06:43in emergencies

01:06:44but we are not

01:06:45get ready

01:06:46to

01:06:46how to say

01:06:47in the long run

01:06:48to manage

01:06:49also because

01:06:50we have such a

01:06:51avalanche

01:06:52of emergencies

01:06:53seen our

01:06:54geographical position

01:06:56tectonics

01:06:56and geological

01:06:58always be ready

01:06:59to eruption

01:07:00volcanic

01:07:01earthquakes

01:07:02than in other countries

01:07:03they are rarer

01:07:04floods

01:07:05landslides

01:07:06and on top of that

01:07:07even situations

01:07:08even sociological ones

01:07:09many times

01:07:10very dangerous

01:07:11with those

01:07:12from the underworld

01:07:13organized

01:07:14and from a certain

01:07:15tax evasion

01:07:16very high

01:07:16for which it is necessary

01:07:17Certainly

01:07:18start to predict

01:07:20an Italy

01:07:21which must defend

01:07:22of wonders

01:07:23architectural

01:07:25cultural

01:07:25and also

01:07:27by nature

01:07:29and biodiversity

01:07:30but also

01:07:31a social fabric

01:07:35which must be

01:07:37more responsible

01:07:37more united

01:07:38more connected

01:07:39less quarrelsome

01:07:41how we were

01:07:41seeing lately

01:07:42Also

01:07:42from a political level

01:07:44trying to understand

01:07:45that in situations

01:07:46like this one

01:07:46they require

01:07:47compactness

01:07:49they ask for solidarity

01:07:50solidarity

01:07:51even from people

01:07:51who maybe hate each other

01:07:52but they understand

01:07:53like in war

01:07:54they all came together

01:07:55fight

01:07:56to win

01:07:57a big battle

01:07:58the big battle

01:07:59it is unfortunately still

01:08:00I repeat it once again

01:08:02climate change

01:08:03that we ourselves

01:08:04we started

01:08:05Doglioni

01:08:05she

01:08:05to Nuic

01:08:06but

01:08:07I think that

01:08:09the culture

01:08:09of prevention

01:08:10start from one

01:08:12greater knowledge

01:08:13and the best investment

01:08:15what can he do

01:08:16a nation

01:08:17that's it

01:08:17Of

01:08:18to make study

01:08:20their own

01:08:21young

01:08:21to invest

01:08:22in research

01:08:23scientific

01:08:24Why

01:08:25nature

01:08:26she is a stepmother

01:08:27if we don't know it

01:08:28if in reality

01:08:29we can understand it

01:08:31the secrets

01:08:32and we can

01:08:33somehow

01:08:34to live together

01:08:35with her

01:08:35in a manner

01:08:37sustainable

01:08:38and also

01:08:39without having

01:08:40these disasters

01:08:41At that time

01:08:42I would go

01:08:43again

01:08:44in connection

01:08:45with

01:08:45Rosita

01:08:46Rosita Rosa

01:08:47let's see if

01:08:48the direction succeeds

01:08:50to pass by me

01:08:50the connection

01:08:51Exactly

01:08:52here it is

01:08:52Rosita

01:08:53At that time

01:08:53we were saying

01:08:54of a sixth

01:08:56victim

01:08:57you are there

01:08:58in the hospital

01:08:59it has arrived

01:09:00what's new

01:09:01There are

01:09:04for now

01:09:05shouldn't

01:09:06still be

01:09:07arrived

01:09:07the sixth

01:09:08victim

01:09:08these days

01:09:09we learned

01:09:10to recognize them

01:09:11the ambulances

01:09:12that is precisely

01:09:13they transport

01:09:13the bodies

01:09:14because in general

01:09:15come in here

01:09:16within

01:09:16of the emergency room

01:09:17and they are escorted

01:09:18Obviously

01:09:19to the machines

01:09:19of the police

01:09:20they have arrived

01:09:21two ambulances

01:09:22they had sirens

01:09:23lit

01:09:23this obviously

01:09:24it's a signal

01:09:25at this point

01:09:26precisely

01:09:27there are six

01:09:28the victims

01:09:28which have been

01:09:29ascertained

01:09:30five

01:09:30we were saying it

01:09:31they were

01:09:32identified

01:09:32and on these

01:09:33it was done

01:09:34the exam too

01:09:35autopsy

01:09:36they still remain

01:09:37to search for

01:09:38twenty-three missing

01:09:40and here they are

01:09:41eleven survivors

01:09:42four

01:09:42children

01:09:43and five adults

01:09:44to you

01:09:45At that time

01:09:46twenty-three missing

01:09:48eleven

01:09:49survivors

01:09:50there were two people

01:09:51that were outside

01:09:52at the moment in which

01:09:53the avalanche has arrived

01:09:54nine instead

01:09:55extracts

01:09:56extracts

01:09:57you live

01:09:58pains

01:10:00we felt

01:10:01there is an investigation

01:10:01in progress

01:10:02but she

01:10:03he told me

01:10:03participated

01:10:05at the meeting

01:10:06of the commission

01:10:07great risks

01:10:08that is, we talked

01:10:10Of

01:10:10in the open session

01:10:11I participated

01:10:12and we talked

01:10:13of this

01:10:14Obviously

01:10:14what was it

01:10:15what is there

01:10:16of established

01:10:16of concrete

01:10:18of concrete

01:10:19Nothing

01:10:19the national institute

01:10:21geophysics and volcanology

01:10:22brought the data

01:10:24because it is

01:10:25the center of expertise

01:10:27for the state

01:10:28to provide

01:10:28all information

01:10:29on seismicity

01:10:31in progress

01:10:32he illustrated

01:10:33what is

01:10:34the situation

01:10:35in the terminal part

01:10:37of the sequence

01:10:38from Amatrice

01:10:38started on August 24th

01:10:40and the most part

01:10:40Northern

01:10:41of that

01:10:42completed in 2009

01:10:44of the Eagle

01:10:45there was this area

01:10:47of relative silence

01:10:48seismic

01:10:49and it's in that area

01:10:50which has developed

01:10:52seismicity

01:10:54last Wednesday

01:10:55so somehow

01:10:56it was expected

01:10:57that area

01:10:58Obviously

01:10:59will have to be

01:10:59filled

01:11:00and it is

01:11:01in that area

01:11:02that there is the lake

01:11:03from Campotosto

01:11:03this is why it was discussed

01:11:05but it's not that

01:11:06we were able to

01:11:07foresee

01:11:08that there will be an earthquake

01:11:09of magnitude 6

01:11:10but we can't do it

01:11:11to exclude

01:11:11Therefore

01:11:12let's say

01:11:13attention is high

01:11:15And

01:11:15all authorities

01:11:17they are alerted

01:11:18because of this

01:11:19Pratesi

01:11:20she first

01:11:20he was talking about

01:11:21we should stop it

01:11:23with the controversies

01:11:24with quarrelsomeness

01:11:25with this high level

01:11:28of aggression

01:11:30which is typically Italian

01:11:30but

01:11:31Unfortunately

01:11:32we can't help but talk

01:11:33of the controversies

01:11:33we cannot help but say

01:11:35when an email arrives

01:11:36and is not taken into consideration

01:11:38we can't say

01:11:39that the funds

01:11:40sometimes they get cut

01:11:42the journalist

01:11:44must

01:11:44renounce

01:11:45the controversies

01:11:45there shouldn't be any

01:11:47certain controversies

01:11:48many times

01:11:48infatiguing

01:11:50many times

01:11:50free

01:11:51on some systems

01:11:52for example

01:11:53let's say so

01:11:54of intervention

01:11:56both for the earthquake

01:11:57both for the avalanche

01:11:57which in my opinion

01:11:58it's truly an honor

01:11:59to Italy

01:12:00This

01:12:00I'm looking for

01:12:01at least to understand

01:12:02This

01:12:02and not to seek

01:12:03always of

01:12:04to belittle

01:12:05the activity

01:12:05that the power

01:12:06as we say

01:12:07the caste

01:12:08is setting in motion

01:12:09to be able to

01:12:10save what can be saved

01:12:11of this country

01:12:12which unfortunately

01:12:13he is in a situation

01:12:14not perfectly

01:12:15happy

01:12:16you have to search

01:12:18to understand this

01:12:18and start thinking

01:12:20from the Italians

01:12:21as he said

01:12:21rightly

01:12:22Professor Dognoni

01:12:23from the Italians

01:12:24Italians

01:12:24I am a seed

01:12:26that go

01:12:26from Trentino

01:12:27up to Ticilia

01:12:28and be

01:12:29always with participation

01:12:30Also

01:12:31of misfortunes

01:12:33of a place

01:12:34distant

01:12:35from us

01:12:35or

01:12:36unloved

01:12:37it could be like this

01:12:38Very well

01:12:39but you have to have

01:12:40precisely

01:12:41this cute one

01:12:42attitude

01:12:43of understanding

01:12:44and solidarity

01:12:45and that's the only thing

01:12:46that can help us

01:12:47allow him

01:12:48cope

01:12:48to what is to come

01:12:49let's remember that

01:12:50the next few years

01:12:51they will not be

01:12:52perfectly happy

01:12:53seeing how it is

01:12:54changing the climate

01:12:55and the planet

01:12:56At that time

01:12:57we really are

01:12:58in closing

01:12:59I thank

01:13:00our guests

01:13:01Fulco Pratesi

01:13:02Raffaella Milano

01:13:04and Carlo Dognoni

01:13:05for having been

01:13:06with us

01:13:06this evening

01:13:08thanks to our

01:13:09colleagues

01:13:10the envoys

01:13:10that are found

01:13:11on site

01:13:12this evening too

01:13:13TG1 special

01:13:14he wanted to follow

01:13:15what is going on

01:13:16happening

01:13:17what all

01:13:19Italy

01:13:19is following

01:13:21and that is

01:13:21the research

01:13:23within

01:13:25of the hotel

01:13:26Rigopiano

01:13:27in this part

01:13:28in this place

01:13:29where you dig

01:13:30at this moment

01:13:31it's digging

01:13:32with the light

01:13:33of electrical photos

01:13:34with the cutters

01:13:35with your hands

01:13:36we are looking for

01:13:37to find

01:13:38we are still looking

01:13:39there is hope

01:13:40to find again

01:13:41of living people

01:13:43of the survivors

01:13:44Thank you

01:13:45for following us

01:13:47and good evening

01:13:56Thank you

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