00:00Our guy Ross Tucker, I don't think there was any Browns fan, media member, anybody as excited
00:07that the Browns took Arkansas quarterback Talon Green than Ross Tucker was on Twitter
00:15after the pick.
00:16I got, we were out getting fried chicken for the family.
00:20I was listening to the draft on the old Browns radio network on the radio, that's what we
00:28work on, where it's hard, me, Nick, but all of a sudden my phone started blowing up and
00:34it was like multiple texts in a row from our guy, Ross Tucker, and it was all about Talon
00:42Green.
00:42Now, if you guys remember, he compared him and we'll get to this in a second, but he sent
00:48me the original one.
00:49He sent me a screenshot and just holy bleep.
00:51Okay.
00:52And I was like, yep, hopefully is Randall Cunningham, your favorite player growing up.
00:56And then he said, you better give me a lot of love on social and on the show on Monday
01:00social and the show called that bleep.
01:03Now remind you, this is the guy that can't, can't be bothered to say my name on CBS when
01:09he does no calls.
01:10He now wants it on social media and he wants it on air.
01:14Here's the audio from Ross.
01:16And I will see, do we, do we agree that Ross called this bleep from a pure entertainment
01:21standpoint, Talon green from Arkansas.
01:23So my favorite player growing up was Randall Cunningham.
01:27And when I watched Talon green, it was like six, six, two 30, ran a four, three 40, jumped
01:3440 inches.
01:35I can't unsee Randall Cunningham and Munkin worked wonders with Lamar.
01:43If you say this year is going to be primarily about Deshaun and Shador, I kind of like the
01:49idea of taking Talon green later in the draft and having him as the number three and working
01:55with them and developing him.
01:57And depending on how things play out, maybe he plays the last five games, you know, maybe,
02:02maybe he gets out there and maybe you can see if you have something there or if you have
02:06to get the franchise guy in 2027.
02:09You know, there's a lot of maybes in there, but he did call it.
02:12I think he hit it.
02:13Yeah.
02:13Right in the middle of that.
02:14I forgot about the middle part of that.
02:16I remember the beginning and the end.
02:17I did not remember in my head going that way.
02:19I remember him speaking on Talon green.
02:21I didn't remember him being, uh, just weaving the Munkin Lamar mix into play.
02:26Like the entire time I was thinking to myself, I'm like, he didn't predict this any more
02:29than I predicted Denzel Boston being the, uh, the first pick in day two, like that's where's
02:34my credit guys.
02:35Uh, but no, he had it.
02:37Yeah.
02:38I thought we had it.
02:38I thought we were going to play this and there was going to be like the typical Ross.
02:41He kind of, you know, maybe alludes to it, but doesn't fully.
02:44He said it.
02:45He said it.
02:45And so tip of the cap to Ross Tucker.
02:48Nice job by Ross.
02:49Who called Talon green to the Browns and what fun that would be.
02:52That's why he gets to call the games right there.
02:53And it's probably why he doesn't say my name on CBS sports when he goes and makes those
02:57big calls.
02:57Well, now at this point, he's just, he has more fun never saying it than he will have fun saying
03:01it.
03:02It's a game of keep away.
03:02We can understand that.
03:03Um, it's interesting.
03:05Like I, I have no, like, I get it.
03:08He is a, he seems to be an athletic freak.
03:10I don't really have any expectations for Talon green.
03:13He's a six round pick.
03:15I do think the people wanting to move on from Talon green as a quarterback already.
03:20Yeah.
03:20I get it.
03:21I get the Terrell prior comps.
03:23I get the, uh, I get other comps of guys, uh, Taysom Hill comp.
03:28The Browns don't have a quarterback.
03:30This kid has an incredible amount of speed.
03:32He does have a hose and an absolute cannon on him.
03:35Yeah.
03:36Like what, who are the Browns really hurting?
03:38Who is Talon green really hurting by giving them a year or two to develop and see if it
03:42works out.
03:43Well, so let's think about it.
03:44Uh, he's got insane athletic ability as vertical was ridiculous.
03:47He was a combine darling, right?
03:49And being a combine darling as a quarterback used to get you taken number four overall,
03:53Anthony Richardson.
03:54I'm looking at you, Mac.
03:55Uh, but like that used to be something.
03:57And now I almost wonder if Anthony Richardson heard him so much in this process.
04:00Uh, it like he does more than he heard himself.
04:03He's got a weird arm.
04:05He's got a weird delivery with his throws.
04:06It's unorthodox.
04:07There's no other way.
04:08When you, when you look at it, you think to yourself, this can't possibly be good.
04:11And, uh, but he is, he's good.
04:13He's, he's not as accurate.
04:14I don't know.
04:15I mean, again, it used to be a time where you take a guy like Josh Allen, who just wasn't
04:19accurate and didn't have the mechanics.
04:20You give him a couple of years and then you figure it out, but you work around the insane
04:24athleticism.
04:25And so he's kind of stuck in between the two people that I've described and it ends up
04:29into being a six round pick.
04:30I feel like it's almost a cousin to the Drew Aller conversation where like I watched Drew
04:36Aller play at Penn state.
04:38And I was like, this, this guy's just being failed by a coach who has failed every high
04:44profile quarterback.
04:44He's had in happy Valley previously in James Franklin.
04:48I kind of look at tailing green and I'm like, Oh yeah, your head coach was Sam Pittman.
04:52Like you look at the, the, the OCs that they hired.
04:56Like, I don't think it's the worst thing to say, all right, it's a six round pick.
05:00The first pick of the six round, let's get them in the system.
05:03Let's see if we can tweak those mechanics and let's see where it goes from there.
05:06And by the way, you can do the Taysom Hill stuff while doing the other stuff with, with
05:11tailing green and I would imagine, I would imagine one or the other.
05:14I would imagine they would.
05:15Let me read this a little bit from McShay and his like prospect profile for him.
05:19He's a rare high ceiling quarterback prospect defined by unprecedented athleticism and extensive
05:24college experience.
05:25If you, if you didn't know that was a six rounder, you'd be like, wait, wait a second.
05:28Did he go in the first round?
05:29The second round?
05:30Where, where did he end up going?
05:31Cause you want every bit of that.
05:32Like that's a rare high ceiling prospect that you got in the sixth round.
05:36Are you kidding me?
05:36I mean, these guys do happen a fair amount.
05:39I mean, guys who are athletic freaks who, whether it's a accuracy issues, whether it's
05:45anything there, there's a fair amount of these guys that do come in and they don't, they
05:49hardly work out, but that's not the point.
05:52Like what kind of value can you get for that?
05:55That's a good roll of the dice though.
05:56And if Munkin has to be the one or gets to be the one to be like, all right, this
05:59is
05:59my little, this is my side project.
06:01This is something I'm going to work on.
06:03And I mean, he's gotta be, he's gotta be all sorts of excited.
06:05And don't sleep on still using him in goal line situations.
06:10Don't sleep on still using him, uh, as the old Kevin Stefanski, potentially third tight
06:15end in situations while allowing him to work in the quarterback room.
06:19Like I, I, I feel like, I feel like you can get stuck here in sports talk of, well, you've
06:25got to pick a lane and I get it.
06:27It's the NFL.
06:28If it comes to, are you a cornerback or wide receiver?
06:31You gotta pick a lane.
06:32If you're a quarterback that can do some gadget stuff and then a year from now you reassess,
06:38all right, is he more of a gadget player?
06:39We're going to keep him in the quarterback room.
06:41Like this is a decision that if you're the Browns this year, you can kind of do both things
06:46and see kind of what takes over over the next year or two.
06:49I mean, I just, I just want to see what happens in a couple of years.
06:51I I'm not even really worried about the gadget stuff, but I just want to see what happens
06:54in a couple of years.
06:55Cause that's the, his upside this year is the gadget stuff.
06:58He's going to, he's going to do that.
06:59No one, no one's saying he isn't, but like, I think people are sleeping on the actual quarterback
07:02ability that he has and the actual talent that he could have.
07:05He's six, five.
07:06He's got every bit of the build of all these other great quarterbacks that you'd want
07:09while having incredible athleticism.
07:11The only thing that's failing them is this unorthodox arm throw, which again, not great.
07:16You want him to be better with his accuracy, but like you can fix accuracy issues.
07:19We've seen it.
07:20So I actually agree with you that I do think people are sleeping on.
07:22You don't have to say actually in that.
07:23You just say, I agree with you.
07:24I, but I, I meant it as a compliment, not the actually part, the agreeing with you, because
07:28I do think like, like the difference between tail and green and Shador last year, or even
07:35Dylan Gabriel last year is you knew, you knew those guys were gonna have to play this next
07:39year, right?
07:40You don't, you don't have to do this with them outside of the kind of gadget stuff.
07:44You can kind of just sit back and let the kid develop and kind of allow the NFL to come
07:48to him.
07:49And by the way, you can do this over multiple years.
07:53It's not like, yes, you're probably going to draft a quarterback with a first round or
07:56next year.
07:57That should be the expectation until somebody proves you otherwise.
08:01But you know, the, the, the truth is if you have an offensive head coach, you've got
08:05a guy who's worked with a lot of different quarterbacks and guys who have had that dual
08:10threat ability.
08:11Yeah.
08:11Just put them in there and you know, if, if, if it works out for a year, well, then he's
08:16going to get another year and you kind of just go from there.
08:18Here's what I would say.
08:18If he went to a Reed, a Shanahan and McVay, one of those guys, and they had two years with
08:23him after two years, the entire, the entire NFL would want him.
08:26It's just now, now it's on you Monk.
08:28And are you, you want to say that you're one of those type of guys that you're that great
08:31with quarterbacks, that great with offenses.
08:33Well, these other guys, they would get something out of this.
08:36This is enough talent here.
08:37There's enough quarterback talent here to be able to get something out of them and show
08:40us that you can.
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