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00:00Welcome back. It's the morning roast. It's Shasky and Grandy with you. We're live at
00:04Stone Tree Golf Club for the third annual Agape Charity Golf Tournament. It's all presented by
00:09our friends at ADCO and Eclipse Insurance. All proceeds benefit North Bay and Golden Gate
00:15Regional Center Help Fund and the San Francisco Autism Society Bay Area. Steiny and Goo will be
00:21here as well. They're doing their show from Stone Tree from 10 to 2 and we're all playing golf
00:26once we're out of here today. Looking forward to that. We're talking about the Niners draft
00:31Thursday through Saturday, the 2026 NFL Draft. Niners drafted eight guys, signed a bunch more
00:37undrafted free agents, but we've been talking about value, Shasky, because I think this is
00:43a trend that is concerning if you're the Niners and you're a Niner fan. They drafted extremely well
00:48early in this tenure with Shanahan and Lynch. It wasn't always great, by the way, in the first
00:54rounds when they were drafting well still either, but they got so many incredible values in the later
00:59rounds. Fred Warner was a third round pick, George Kittle a fifth round pick, Dre Greenlaw was a fifth
01:04round pick. You have great, D'Almodo Lenore and Talanoa Hufunga were both fifth round picks. You have
01:09so many examples of hitting late. The issue is they're not hitting early of late and they're not
01:15hitting late of late. And now we're at a point where the last three, four, five years, you don't
01:19have a lot to show for your drafts. I feel way more confident in this team trading draft picks for
01:23a
01:23proven player than I do them nailing a draft pick. I think that's fair. Yeah, but how many teams are
01:29around the league? Are you thinking like that? I think why this is so important. Think of who has
01:33been in the Super Bowl dominating the last couple of years. It has been a GM run team, the Philadelphia
01:39Eagles and the Seahawks and the Seahawks. This is the era of the GM. That doesn't mean you can't be
01:44savvy and swing big deals because both those teams did sign like Sam Darnold was a great signing.
01:51You want to have a value? Phenomenal signing. He goes with A.J. Brown. That was a trade,
01:54but they gave him a big contract after that too. Absolutely. And then I think about, you know,
01:59not only that, like Philly over the weekend trades two thirds for Greenyard, right? And that's a
02:04really good move. So I just, I look at the Niner situation and we know there are great coaches.
02:10No one denies that. It's like Belichick. We know Belichick's awesome. Do I want Belichick
02:15run to my draft? Probably not, but I want them on game day. Well, the dirty little secret about
02:20the Patriots specifically at the end was they also drafted really poorly. Horribly. You look at the
02:25Patriots draft record, it still hasn't caught up because that you hit the quarterback and it
02:29changes everything. And Drake May was amazing last year. They're one of the worst drafting teams of
02:33the last like seven years. Yeah. But where did they really supplement their team just for last
02:37year? It was free agency. Yeah. They were awesome in free agency. Well, and the Niners have made a lot
02:40of
02:40really smart moves. I mean, Christian McCaffrey is a home run move that you make a hundred times
02:43out of a hundred. The way that they got rid of, or not got rid of, but Joe Staley retired
02:48and they
02:49replaced him with a better left tackle in Trent Williams. That's something that happens once in
02:53a blue moon and they struck at the right moment. They've made a number of really, really good moves.
02:57But I could also argue at the same time, similar to the draft board and what the market is telling
03:03you, it feels like they've overvalued certain players at certain points. Let me give you an
03:09example. Jayvon Hargrave overpaid way too much. Now to their credit, the Vikings did too, almost
03:15immediately after he got cut from the Niners, the Brandon Ike situation. Did they overplay their
03:20hand? Did they not understand the wide receiver market? Did they not understand what his value
03:25was on draft day? I'm just asking, do we like knowing everything we know now? And obviously the
03:30injury has just changed everything. But even before the injury, do we, that whole off season? I mean,
03:36did they nail, did they nail, did they nail market value? Did they understand what his
03:40value was? Not just to them, but to the league? No. Okay. No. And thank you. And I, I think
03:46most Niner fans, I mean, that off season was crazy, ridiculous two years ago. I think most
03:51Niner fans, by the time the contract was signed, were thinking of it like that's probably going
03:56to be a mistake. Yeah. But before he even takes the field again as a Niner after he signs
04:01the deal, most people probably felt, uh-oh, they probably made a mistake here. I agree
04:05completely. And look, no one bats a hundred. No one bats anywhere near a hundred. I'm not
04:08asking you to. On the draft, on free agents, on, on any contracts, but there's a lot of
04:12really big misses. No, well, these are microcosms into why I think just one of the things leading
04:18them into the position that they're in and why they haven't gotten over the hump is they just
04:23misread how the rest of the league views their team. I want to, okay, so we talk about, yes,
04:28I do. Because Jimmy Garoppolo, the same thing could have been said about the Jimmy Garoppolo
04:31saga at the end. You guys misplayed your hand. You valued him more than anyone else did. Why is
04:36Mac Jones still on this team? Well, that's another good thing. So why? Because they wanted a first
04:40rounder. Yep. Not knowing that the market told them, no one's giving you a first rounder. They
04:45admitted that on Thursday. After, after they traded out of the first round, they essentially said,
04:49they were asked, do you expect Mac Jones to be on your roster come training camp? And they said,
04:54yeah, because his values passed. And what had ended after Thursday? The first round. So they
04:59essentially said they only were going to trade Mac Jones if they could get a first round pick.
05:02I'm on record saying I would have done it for a third round pick. Me too. We have a franchise
05:06quarterback. We paid him. Like we need players. I want to win now. Having a backup, a good backup
05:11quarterback, it is great, but it's also a luxury. If you have other holes on your roster to fill,
05:16it's the same exact thing about drafting a kicker in the third round. That's a luxury.
05:21And it's still stupid, even if you don't have any holes, but you only do that if you have no
05:26other
05:26holes on your roster. You do it. In my opinion, especially when you have a George Kittle coming
05:31off of an Achilles who's already aging, who knows how many more good years, great years Fred Warner
05:35has. Nick Bosa, third ACL tear. What the hell is he going to be for the rest of his career?
05:39We don't
05:40know. Drake Greenland is going to be your starting linebacker opposite Fred. Can he stay healthy? Is he
05:44still good? We're going to find out. Can you trust him? You have so many other holes on your
05:48roster. In my opinion, you do whatever you can within reason to help fill those holes and get
05:55as good of a roster as possible. It's much like the Dajon Stribbling pick, a wide receiver or
05:59drafting a running back in the third round. In an ideal world, your wide receiver room,
06:04which you supplemented in free agency this year, stays healthy. McCaffrey stays healthy and you don't
06:09use your first round pick, your third round pick at a running back much. If Purdy stays healthy,
06:15Mack Jones will have zero impact on your team this year. That is an asset that if that happens,
06:21you waste it. Now it's nice to have, he saved the season last year. Absolutely. No one is ever
06:26questioning that, but I go into a season planning and hoping for my quarterback to stay healthy. If
06:32they're not healthy, it's probably over no matter what. I agree with you, Mark. It didn't happen last
06:38amount of assets that you have to help this team. Well, this goes back to value. Does this
06:44organization value the offensive line in free agency and in the draft? Free agency is one thing.
06:50Do they? You overpay. You overpay free agency all the time. No, I know, but do they value it, though?
06:54They pay one guy on their line. Not in the draft. They don't. Their philosophy, it feels like to me,
06:58through nine years, ten years now, this is year ten, it feels like to me, we'll pay one guy and
07:03what kind
07:03of patchwork the rest. That doesn't feel like you have invested, just for me. No, I'm with you.
07:09That's their philosophy. I just think, in general, the best strategy in terms of the offensive line
07:13is drafting and not free agency. I agree with that. Like, letting Aaron Banks walk to the Packers,
07:18that was the right thing to do. Aaron Banks is not worth that money, but you needed to have a
07:21succession plan in place. Well, you go into last year with Ben Barton, just hurting left guard,
07:26you have to turn to Connor Colby, and then eventually go to Spencer Burford, who was good at left
07:30guard. And then you let him walk for $3 million to the Raiders. I know. Look, you're hitting the
07:34nail on the head. And now, look, for the argument on the offensive line, I didn't think McKibbitts
07:38was value, and then they shined him up. The guy played great last year. McKibbitts was great last
07:43year, right? The extension they got him to is reasonable. It was a great deal. So I could play
07:48both sides of the coin regarding value, but to your point about the quarterback, had you invested
07:52in protecting Brock Purdy, you wouldn't be so hell-bent on keeping Mac Jones unless it's a
07:58first-rounder. See, to me, they go hand-in-hand. And that doesn't mean there can't be a freak
08:03injury. We see it all the time. Guys are running around. Something random happens.
08:07But look at any team across the NFL. Their quarterback goes down, the season's over.
08:11I get having a good backup quarterback is great, and you'd rather have it than not. Absolutely.
08:18But we can be realistic, and if you're starting quarterbacks done, then you're done.
08:23I know.
08:23And you begin next season.
08:24And here's the thing out of this draft. I almost feel like it's malpractice to a degree.
08:29You don't take a tight end? How do you not take a tight end? No, I'm serious on this.
08:34They had multiple opportunities.
08:35What happened to George Kittle last year? Forget the Achilles. Before you even get to the Achilles,
08:39what happened to George Kittle?
08:40After the first drive of the year.
08:41First drive of the year. Then what happened in the Indianapolis game, which she admitted
08:44later on? He tore something in the quad hamstring area. It's very blurry, but he said,
08:50yeah, I tore something. This is before the Achilles injury. He's 34 years old. He plays
08:55a punishing style of football. All right? Now, Jake Todd just might be really good one day.
09:00I don't know. We will see. I like what he can be as a pass catcher. How you don't draft
09:06the tight end, which is the most, you want to talk about value, the top of the market,
09:10they make half of what a receiver makes. They can block. They can help you in the blocking
09:15game. They give you a schematic advantage to the Shanahan offense. It's so important.
09:19Look at this division. Two tight end sets for Seattle, two and three tight end sets for
09:23the Rams. They used three a ton this past year.
09:26And you're out here still.
09:27Others are going to follow that, by the way. There will be more three tight end sets because
09:30of the Rams.
09:30I agree. Your best running game this year was when Kittle returned against the Atlanta
09:34Falcons. Now, the Falcons just might have stunk. I'll listen to that. But he was amazing
09:39in that game in terms of blocking. And so for you to not invest in that position, what
09:43does everyone say when a tight end gets taken? Ah, he's the quarterback blanket. You know,
09:48he's the safety net. You just check it down, and he's old reliable. We're really banking
09:54on George Kittle to come back? Like, to me, that's insanity. That's insanity. That doesn't
09:59mean if he comes back, I won't be thrilled. Of course I will.
10:02He's an amazing player.
10:03Look, the year Dre Greenlaw got hurt, they said he'll be ready week five. He'll be ready
10:07week 10. He'll be ready week 12. He'll be ready week 13. The guy played like two quarters.
10:11And then he finally came back and immediately got hurt again, which means he probably shouldn't
10:15have even been back at that point.
10:16Which is why I would slow play Kittle the whole time, and I would have drafted someone. I just,
10:21I can't believe that they're not seeing what everyone's seeing. And this is the problem,
10:26I think, with the team right now. They are good on game day. They deserve to be arrogant.
10:31They win double-digit games almost every year. I understand that. We're not questioning
10:36whether you guys know football. You do know football. We think you don't understand what
10:40people's values are league-wide. And I can point to seven or eight different examples
10:45over the last couple years, which identify it. Brandon, Iyuk's value, Debo's value,
10:51you know, the contract value for Nick Bosa. How did you not know Nick Bosa was going to
10:56try to bend you over? Okay? Of course he was. How do you not know every single offseason?
11:00Well, they knew that. I mean, they knew that.
11:02Yeah, but they waited until right before the season started, right? Like, I don't see other
11:05teams having that problem, yet annually it's a 49er issue. So, look, they do a lot of great things.
11:11We're just discussing the draft and the value. I think it's inarguable to say that they're not
11:16the greatest drafting team. Yeah. You're listening to 95.7 The Game, KGMZ-FM,
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11:30I think the thing that gets fans confused at times when we talk about value in the draft,
11:37and obviously you hear a lot of people use the word reach. Well, how could you possibly
11:40know it's a reach? Well, there's this thing called the consensus big board, and look,
11:44these are just a combination and average of everyone's opinions on this year's draft class,
11:49and it's ex-scouts, it's ex-general managers, but it's also just, you know, people like you
11:54and me that live with this stuff and put together their own big board. So, it's not the opinions
11:59of the NFL teams that they submit, and it's the average of that. So, take it with a grain of
12:03salt. But when we talk about value, oh, that was a value pick, we don't necessarily mean
12:09that's not a player that you shouldn't draft. We just mean there's a time and a place to draft
12:14them. You could draft a running back that they wanted in the fifth round instead of drafting them
12:22in the third round, and because you open up that pick in the third round, you could draft a tight
12:27end.
12:27You could draft Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, the safety from Toledo that maybe would immediately become
12:32your best safety in your building. It's not that the players that they draft are necessarily players
12:38we don't think they should draft. Now, lately, they haven't had a ton of success there. The point,
12:43though, isn't about the player. It's about the value of which you draft the player. And the Niners
12:49simply refuse to address other people's opinions of this draft class, and as a result,
12:56they are forced to take players over everybody else's value, which inherently lowers the value
13:02that you, the return, the bang for your buck gets lowered. Even if that player produces,
13:06the bang for your buck is lowered because you're missing out on the opportunity to draft other
13:12players and still get that same player you drafted early later in the draft.
13:16I think you're nailing the, you're hitting the nail right on the head. Let's go back to
13:19Pearsall. Forget dribbling for just a second. You took him 28th overall.
13:24No one had him in the first round. No one. Not only did you take him in the first round,
13:31which was a reach by draft board consensus. You also had two high paid wide receivers.
13:37So you drafted a guy knowing he might not see the field. Now, let me add on to that. You
13:43had
13:43IU, that situation was up in the air. You had Debo and on draft day, they didn't know if they're
13:48going to trade. There were trade rumors for both those guys. Exactly. You also had the highest at
13:52the time, he was the highest third wide receiver on any roster in terms of salary because he got a
13:57two-year extension going into that draft. That was Juwan Jennings. At best, the second you drafted
14:04Pearsall, what was he on your depth chart on that day? Fourth.
14:08So you took the 28th overall pick to be a red shirt. Which is very similar to dribbling.
14:14And you wonder why we're up in arms. And you wonder why we're freaking out. Now, again,
14:19Pearsall may ultimately be a good player down the line. But what if you got Pearsall in the second
14:24round and you took a plug and play player in that first round? Do you think this team would be
14:28better
14:28off for it? I do. I do. Right now, we don't know about Pearsall. So, like, dribbling might
14:35be good. You know, Granny, I would have loved him at 70. I would have loved him at 70 and
14:39I would
14:39have loved a plug and play player at 33. That's what I was hoping they were going to do. And
14:44it
14:44just feels like to me and a lot of Niner fans, they sat on it all night, all night. They're
14:48like,
14:49we got to get a receiver. Oh my God, we got to get a receiver. And I'm just, I'm receiver
14:52now.
14:52No, I'm receiver. Not that we don't need it. Of course we need it. But at that spot,
14:57if he's not going to play right away, is that great value? I go back to the V word.
15:03No. If your goal is to do it, to make this team this season as good as possible, which
15:08everything in free agency suggests that. Yes. Mike Evans is technically on a three-year deal. It's
15:12basically a one-year deal. It's a one-year deal. Yeah. Like, this is a chips in offseason for one
15:18year. And then they'll reassess and they'll figure things out after that. But the draft says
15:22otherwise to me. Why would Niner fans, if you're out there to say, Shasky, what are you talking
15:26about? This team wins double-digit games. Of course they win double-digit games. I want
15:30you to think about what the Rams did over the weekend. Okay. The Rams. Was it good value
15:35for the Rams? No, no. On three different levels, it was poor value. Number one, 13th overall
15:40pick. Was that what it was? Yes, 13th. You took a guy who may not play for you for how
15:43many
15:43years? Ty Simpson, Alabama quarterback. You're knocking on the door of the Super Bowl. You lost in
15:49the NFC Championship game. And it's not because the quarterback sucked. Like, this is Jimmy
15:53Garoppolo sucked. I get why they wanted to, or was sucky at least a year prior. I get why
15:59they wanted to move off him. This is the MVP of the league in Stafford. You don't think
16:03that locker room's going, what the hell are we doing? We needed a dog in here to help us
16:07win right now. Ideally, Simpson doesn't play for two years, maybe more. So was it good value
16:13for the Rams to take someone who's going to redshirt? Okay. Thank you. Then on top of that,
16:18paying that guy first round money to sit on your bench and not help you also hurts your cap. Makes
16:24it more difficult to round out the rest of that team. So forget the Diners. I'm Stafford. It also
16:28pisses me off. Now you got to the third one, which is the value of the quarterback relationship
16:32and the head coach. Did McVay look happy? No. Did the quarterback look happy? No. No. And rightfully,
16:37they should be ticked off. So I look at these other picks and I see metaphors on why Niner
16:43fans are frustrated. We're not saying they're not good at their job. They're great game day
16:47coaches. We think you guys need to get someone from outside the building to just go, Hey guys,
16:53maybe we don't take a wide receiver who may not play for eight weeks in the first round. Yeah.
16:57Eight at eight, nine, five, seven, nine, five, seven, zero. If you want to weigh in, Shasky and I,
17:02it's, it's grandy with you. We're talking about this Niners draft Thursday, Friday, and Saturday
17:06made eight different selections. Uh, we got issues, uh, maybe not with individual players,
17:11but with the thought process behind it. Let's go out to the phone lines here again. Eight
17:14eight, eight, nine, five, seven, nine, five, seven, zero. Brandon is in Fairfield. Oh,
17:18also plus reminder, we got Brian Baldwin are coming up at seven 30 to help us talk through
17:22all this as well. Brandon in Fairfield. What's up, Brandon? Happy Monday. This is Brandon,
17:30the Filipino 49er fan. Haven't called since the playoffs, but I want to give our wide receiver
17:36drafting an overall D and here's why. And I think Shanahan gravitates to receivers who probably
17:42start with the letter D, especially in the second round. So other than Deebo Samuel, let's take a look
17:48at this. We whiffed on Dante Pettis. We whiffed on Danny Gray. He was a third rounder. Now we got
17:55Deshaun Stribbling. I mean, we could go all the way back to DeAndre Smelter, but we're not doing that.
18:00However, I mean, if we just draft, uh, you know, wide receiver, you know, with A's, maybe we'd get
18:07a, well, except AJ Jenkins. Sorry about that. If we could just draft the receivers and really plug
18:13and play and get us the Superbowl, that would be amazing. But that's my call. Thank you, gentlemen.
18:17No, I appreciate that. Look, on some level, right. I take a step back and I go, all right,
18:22did they need playmakers on the outside? Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely think that they need to play.
18:26They also needed a wide receiver that was willing to block. They don't have that anymore.
18:30I think an underrated part of why the run game struggled last year was because Kittle was
18:33out and they had zero receivers without IU that were willing to block. I don't dismiss
18:37that. Name another organization though. That's like, Hey man, we know that he could catch
18:42some passes, but you should see him block. Well, I mean, that's why we're, that's why
18:45I said off the top that this draft screams Kyle Shanahan because one of the first things
18:50you read about Dajon Stribbling, their, their first pick, it was the first pick of the
18:53second round wide receiver from Ole Miss. It is best blocking receiver in the class.
18:58And it's like, okay, that's, that's a Shanahan pick. That is absolutely a Shanahan pick.
19:02You know why they didn't run the ball really well? Because their offensive line is kind
19:05of in the middle of the pack. Yeah. I think that's why they didn't run the ball.
19:08Their offensive line is kind of, of late, always kind of been in the middle of the pack.
19:11And two years ago, the run game was amazing. Which is why I would have invested in the
19:14offensive line earlier in this draft. Now, look, I hope this kid earlier in every draft.
19:19Well, that's, I mean, look, Pune's been solid. We're talking about the offensive line. And
19:23yes, I would have invested in the O-line this year because I think you have to find a succession
19:27plan for Trent. Who knows how long he's going to be around your final. You don't have a left
19:30guard. You don't have a left guard. You don't have a left guard. I know he just signed a
19:34contract extension, but like the way that this works, like you think back to the Aaron Banks
19:38draft, they had Lincoln, Lakin Tomlinson starting out left guards. And then, so they sat a very
19:44valuable pick in Aaron Banks behind Lakin Tomlinson. But guess why they drafted Aaron
19:49Banks early? Because they knew Lakin Tomlinson was going to hit free agency and he was probably
19:54going to get a contract offer from somebody else that was too rich for their blood. The
19:58Jets offered him a lot of money. The Niners said, okay, that's fine. We have a highly drafted
20:02left guard to step in and be the guy. Was Aaron Banks amazing? No. Was he a starting caliber?
20:07Yeah, I think so. Then the same thing happened. His rookie contract expired and the 49ers
20:14didn't want to pay him the money that he was going to get offered, which is exactly what
20:18happened. But the difference was they did not have a highly drafted replacement waiting.
20:23They went with Connor Colby and Ben Bartsch and Spencer Burford as the true left guard last
20:29year. And did it work out? No, it did not work out. Like you, yeah, you can draft an offensive
20:33lineman this year to hopefully start for them this year. That's absolutely something that
20:37you can do. I think the way the offensive line works is you draft two years in advance of
20:42when you think you're going to need that person. Yeah. Or you draft them right away and plug
20:46and play them. Like one or the other. But it might not work out. I mean, that might not
20:49be great. Like a rookie starting. Like it might, it might not work. Totally. Like, like I think
20:53McGlinchey was very up and down, right? Like they drafted McGlinchey and they plug and played
20:57him. You know, it's so funny. Like I feel like they go into every one of these drafts. This
21:02is just the feeling I get. And they go, there are eight guys we love. And no matter where
21:08they are on the board, these are the only eight guys we're going to take them. That's
21:12the feeling I get. And I'm a big Bill Walsh guy and he's not perfect. But one of the things
21:18I love about Bill, he said, Hey, some people can drive the car. Some people can build the
21:23engine. Not many can build the engine and drive the car. And he thought he could do
21:27both. And one of the things that was a hallmark of Bill, yes. Would he take a Dwight Clark in
21:32the 10th round before anyone would take him? And, and he would have been an undrafted
21:37free. Yeah. He patted the table for that. Joe Montana was not his first choice at quarterback.
21:41It was not Jerry Rice. When he traded up, Jerry Rice was not the wide receiver that he
21:46wanted with his first choice. Actually, that guy was off the board beforehand. It feels like
21:51to me, the Niners don't have that flexibility in their draft plan year after year after year.
21:57It's never, Oh, best player felt to us. And that's who we took. It's we identified this
22:04guy because we have eight on our board and whether he was there at 54 or 34, we were taking
22:10them no matter what. And what I say is that boxes you in going back to your box in comment
22:15of earlier. They're just so narrow in their point of view when it comes to these drafts.
22:20Yes. And like they said, Hey, he had a gold star in his helmet. Okay. All right. It just
22:26means that you really like him. And look, your evaluation is your evaluation. They liked
22:30a lot of guys. Remember, I mean, look you, I want you to, I want one. I want you to
22:36have
22:36strong conviction. I want you to fall in love with players. If you don't, then you got issues
22:41and I want you to draft the players that you like. I'm not saying don't draft players.
22:46You don't like obviously draft players that you like, but there is, they're doing themselves
22:52a gigantic disservice by ignoring the rest of the world's opinions. I I've never heard
22:57them come to a podium and say, you know, this guy fell to us and we were shocked. He was
23:02still there. And so we took them like, yeah, we, we, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't really,
23:06we didn't think he'd be there. When, when do they ever say that it's always, we liked them.
23:10And so we jumped up way ahead of everyone and got them right. I mean, they did say after round
23:16one on Thursday, they were close to someone dropping to them that they weren't expecting
23:20close, but it didn't happen. It never happened. That's a luck thing as well. Like you can't
23:25control that, but you can also trade up. If you're really in love with somebody, they
23:29ultimately traded back a couple of times. And that was the end of it for them in terms
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