00:00with the nfl draft just two days away i will start with this this is a player that we have
00:08talked about ad nauseum leading into the draft this you do me a favor kevin in these conversations
00:14go ahead and continue on what you're you're preparing here but do me a favor when you set
00:18things up make sure if it's a hypothetical uh scenario that you just say this is a hypothetical
00:27situation we're having some fun here uh so that the people on the internet know yeah i just had to
00:34run through in my head don't say dip s because i was i was already like in my thought process
00:41i was
00:41going to say that hey you're doing great buddy people if you see a video clip actually watch the
00:48clip all right don't just look at the headline and be like i am angry do we have the youtube
00:54back by
00:55the way is that what's uh we are rocking the youtube baby we got it back that's how good
00:58in your face copyright god harder could never get it done that quickly oh man so yeah when we brought
01:04up the thing yesterday about trading 12 and 20 to the giants for 5 and 10 plus your 2027 first
01:12round
01:12pick and probably this year's third it was prefaced with all right let's have some fun with it here's
01:19a hypothetical that i don't think would happen but man some people in the comments although i think we
01:26kind of nailed it because plenty of people like why would the giants do that and then a bunch of
01:30cowboys fans like no it's too rich for me and i was like oh great we're pissing people off on
01:34both
01:34sides i would i would say kevin that that is why you need to tolo yes rather than just watch
01:41the clips
01:41but i did have somebody recently tell me hey the clips are the are like one of my favorite things
01:48about y'all's station and show is because i can catch up on a lot of things by watching those
01:53and it does drive a lot more people to come check us out you know a few months ago i
01:57talked to my
01:58buddy adam i guess he goes by a silver and he said this really is a highlight show league that
02:04we're in
02:05so you know but so it was one person in particular that i was like i just have to mute
02:10you you're too
02:11stupid to interact and they were like oh see it's that time of year where the football commentators
02:16are struggling hey you nimrod wouldn't that have been a month ago how are you struggling for
02:21content two days before the draft it took two freaking minutes and our show is four hours long
02:27anyways will caleb downs be the first top 10 safety drafted since jamal adams nine years ago
02:40no i think so i do too um he's fortunate just yeah just because he's too talented to pass up
02:50on
02:50and i think somebody in one of these war rooms is going to throw that one out there and that
02:57team's
02:57going to go yeah we'll find a way to get make sure the best players on the field and if
03:02you watch the
03:02player you see it if you just watch the film of the player and don't look at anything else like
03:08don't go
03:08look at measurables and be like let me talk myself out of this just watch the dude trust the tape
03:13is
03:13what i've always been told um yeah do that listen to that podcast too uh love of the star that's
03:22right definitely the one so alec will caleb downs be the first safety to go in the top 10 since
03:31jamal
03:32adams no he will not i still think teams are gonna overthink this because you can see the the
03:39anonymous executives telling these reporters throw away positional value in this draft they don't
03:46actually believe that right they don't they're just trying to drum up interest like we're talking
03:52about with the cardinals hey we could take jeremiah love at number three no you don't want to make that
03:57pick and you know it you are lying through your teeth to try to get somebody to move up and
04:02give
04:02you some extra assets that's what everybody is doing right now because this draft is so unbelievably
04:09odd it doesn't make sense it feels like the most unpredictable first round we've had in years
04:15because nobody wants to make their picks yeah so i think at least five teams are going to overthink it
04:23whenever it makes sense for him to be drafted by that team they're gonna have the conversation
04:28and they're still gonna say but you know what guard could help us out yeah tackle could help us out
04:34a
04:34lot i'm talking about new york here too they could be looking you know down the barrel of pick number
04:39five and they could say well you know maui noah yeah it makes a ton of sense here now mickey
04:47brought
04:47this person up earlier will akim mesador slide down the board because of his age yes and good
05:02if he's there for the cowboys uh if mesador is there i have zero problems taking him you can talk
05:08to
05:08me about his age and everything this is one of those we're discussing with steven jones too about
05:14taking older players and he was like glad you brought that up wow interesting why are you glad
05:19well uh and so then you know you think about we get him for the best five years of his
05:24career
05:25and then maybe we don't even have to sign him to that next contract a lot of people think if
05:29you get
05:30a first round pick he needs to be a 10-year player and i wonder if that's still the thing
05:34or if you're
05:35just good at drafting you can just keep drafting good players and use your draft but add a player like
05:41that to my defense and i did hear brad sham say it this morning um when you're talking about edge
05:48rushers i need a left defensive end yeah i need a guy that can stop the run and get to
05:55the quarterback
05:55also that's a dude that can do it add that to my defense and then let's figure out some linebackers
06:03alec does akeem mezdor slide and if so do you have a general idea of range i think he does
06:12and i could see i mean i think in my mock i had him going in the mid 20s uh
06:18which i think is not
06:20deserved i i think he's a better player than that and i won't show my hand too much because i
06:25think
06:25we'll be talking about him a little bit here in the next segment uh but yeah i i do think
06:31that 25
06:32years old is going to it's almost like sticker shock but with age people are going to see that
06:37and be like oh you know the second contract conversation is going to come up and by the
06:42time he's due he's going to be in his 30s and i don't care i'm not worried about that far
06:49down the
06:49line with certain players i am like with caleb downs i'm thinking about you know two contracts from now
06:55for sure i'm thinking about that because that's a franchise cornerstone for a guy like mezador
06:59especially in that range that i think he's going to fall from anywhere from like 18 to 25 i could
07:06see
07:06i think people are going to be like well we're a better team we're like it might be a playoff
07:12team
07:12that ends up selecting them so they're like we're good now we care about the next four to five years
07:17not 10 years from now so i think it's undeserved who is your number one player on this draft
07:25in this draft who do you think is the best player in this draft forget the team forget the need
07:30any of
07:30that sunny's caleb downs i want sunny styles a little more for my team i gotcha but but it's
07:41caleb downs for me now alec i have a feeling that your answer might be in my face but let's
07:48see
07:48who is your number one player in this draft francis malley no no i'm kidding um it's caleb downs okay
07:56i thought you might say arvel reese but no it's close it's really good dude honestly i don't know
08:02if it's kevin's hatred for arvel reese cory is an over you know and the smear campaign that he has
08:08started that against his name or i don't know what it is or maybe just the conversation two versus three
08:14i've watched him a little bit more and i keep falling in love more and more with his skill set
08:19and his wide range of abilities yeah okay and here's something kevin that i did and i'm not trying
08:24to argue with you about this because you watch plenty of college football um you said he just didn't
08:31seem to do a lot of things that flashed yes and then i also looked at the rest of his
08:36team and i was
08:38did he need to and there are a lot of times where he does the right thing you know he
08:43does the right
08:44play he makes the right play and there's other times where i'm like oh man how did he get through
08:48there how did he actually do that i still think he has a lot of room to grow no but
08:53i saw what you
08:54were saying and then there i was like there's so much talent on that defense other people did so many
08:59good things i i understand what you're saying and maybe in other drafts it would be different but i do
09:04think there's a lot of projection things that you see on film and arvel reese like it just seems
09:11like he made the right the right plays whenever it was called upon and he's capable of doing it
09:16but he was he just fit their system for what they did the the potential i will readily admit is
09:23off the
09:24charts now i think i know y'all's answer to this next one but let's be sure will there be
09:29any
09:30any resolution with george pickens by the time the draft is over
09:38what do you mean by resolution it can look however you want they have saying they have agreed to a
09:43deal yeah they've agreed to a deal i don't think they would trade him but he's you know what i'm
09:47playing on the one yeah or i would even accept that or everyone's like we've all agreed franchise
09:52tag he'll be at training camp this is what we're doing will there be any resolution with george
09:57pickens by the time we wrap up on saturday no that's what i think too alec no absolutely not
10:05yeah nfl network and espn need their talking points going into day two it's an extra story
10:10yeah yeah and that's not and do you feel like i do right it's not that espn and them are
10:15going to
10:16be like hey we need this it's that jerry's like we can provide this for them sure like let's just
10:23keep this thing rolling that's so by not picking up the phone yeah i hear you will are you let's
10:30let's not say will are you sure carnell tate will be the first wide receiver drafted
10:36no i'm not i don't think i am because i think jordan tyson is liked by the giants yeah i
10:42think
10:42jordan tyson is like uh by the what you saw nick harris's tweet and if not i'll bring it back
10:50up
10:50jordan tyson's on that list cool as i told you but if it's because he's the only one left at
10:5612
10:56then i'm gonna be like dadgum guys y'all couldn't make anything else happen and we'll have to accept
11:02that it's gonna be jordan tyson and akeem mesador or jordan tyson and malachi lawrence because they
11:07like him in the second round but they have to reach up to go get him um i just i
11:13can't guarantee it
11:14but if he but i'd love for him to go in the first round so that we can get another
11:18offensive player
11:19to push that thing out of our way okay bonus question along with this would cowboys fans be
11:26angry if their picks were jordan tyson and keldrick falk
11:33uh yes to answer yeah there's one cowboys fan right there to answer the first question no i do
11:41think jordan tyson is the first wide receiver so i i don't i don't think it's carnell tate at this
11:46point i think new york gets scared and they take him at five i do because kansas city is in
11:51love with
11:52jordan tyson that's not a secret at this point in kansas city where do they pick nine what pick did
11:57the giants just get ten yeah so they are literally playing with fire if they do not take him at
12:04five
12:04so i'm starting to think that's going to be the pick at five is jordan tyson to answer your bonus
12:09question the dreaded bonus question rick bonus uh stop that that's right um he's a motivator man
12:16um yeah i do think people would be pretty heated i do just because you're right because of what cory
12:22just painted the fact that you got in that situation you got wiped out defensively at 12
12:27and you didn't make anything else happen you didn't move up you didn't move back you didn't do anything
12:34you just you said we're gonna bet on ourselves we're gonna bet on 12 being an impact player which
12:39jordan tyson absolutely is you need defense people are gonna be upset and cowboys twitter just for
12:45whatever reason already hates keldrick falk oh wow it just seems like every mock that you see with his
12:51name associated people are just like oh i don't get it i don't get it i at 12 i would
12:58hate it at 20
12:59sure sign me up man that you know what that could be something i'm gonna work on give the list
13:06of
13:06players you would hate at 12 but like at 20 i like it okay i think we could do something
13:13with that
13:13all right thank you gentlemen very very much
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