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Shan, RJ, and Bobby took a look at another mock draft, this one was made by beat writers. Who do they have the Cowboys taking at 12 and 20? They also discussed positional priorities, sleeper picks, what reporters’ insights could mean for the team this year, and more.
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00:00A mock draft we have not covered yet in terms of the scenario.
00:04The best type of mock draft to me.
00:07The traded ones? The trade ones?
00:09The beat writer ones.
00:11Oh, yeah.
00:12I think it's always best that if you're going to do these mock drafts,
00:16jump to whoever covers the team regularly
00:19and either knows what it is that they need or knows a guy they like.
00:23This is what brought us to doing in Indianapolis,
00:25walking by all the radio tables.
00:27What you guys looking at there? What you thinking?
00:29What you feeling?
00:30I'll run down the list real quick.
00:32We'll get to Arizona.
00:33When we get to Arizona, I'm going to stop and explain how this is a good example of that.
00:36So, number one, Fernando Mendoza, quarterback, Indiana, goes to the Las Vegas Raiders.
00:40No way.
00:41Number two, Arvel Reese, Ohio State, to the Jets,
00:45which is you started to see some David Bailey there, but it's Bailey or Reese.
00:50Reese seems to be the favorite at this point.
00:51Three, and this is where I think these mock drafts are important.
00:54Arizona Cardinals take Francis Mauno, offensive tackle, Miami.
00:57So, you had in the Kuyper mock draft, Mauno was still there when the Cowboys picked.
01:02And in some of these national mock drafts, you don't see Mauno go to pick six or five or something
01:07like that.
01:08But every single person I've seen who covers the Arizona Cardinals
01:13and has participated in a mock draft has put offensive line at pick three.
01:16Every single one of them.
01:18And nobody else is doing that.
01:19All the national writers are putting other defensive players.
01:23I think that's a – yeah, it tells you what the Arizona may be saying.
01:27But, like, to hone it – like, we know the Cowboys are more locked into defense than Arizona to any
01:33one position.
01:34You know what I mean?
01:35They can take anything.
01:36Yeah.
01:37They need anything.
01:37But that's one of the most consistent things that people are mocking.
01:41Like, everybody who is – so, everybody who is an Arizona reporter who would, like, be talking to people related
01:46to the team,
01:47they're all saying tackle, tackle, tackle.
01:49All of them are saying – like, Danny Sarek was out there talking to Broadus,
01:53and Broadus was like, who do you all get?
01:55Who are you all going to get?
01:56And she said, offensive line.
01:57And she just kept walking.
01:58And so –
01:58Who's Danny Sarek?
01:59She used to work for DallasCowboys.com.
02:01She's now the reporter, the team reporter there for the Arizona Cardinals.
02:05But this is where I think, like, you start seeing, like, they're going to have a better read of who
02:09that pick could be.
02:10Pretty commonly, you've seen some people mock to Tennessee, Jeremiah Love.
02:14Number four.
02:15Seems easy.
02:16Jeremiah Love.
02:17No.
02:17David –
02:18Which, again, that doesn't make all the sense in the world.
02:22Jeremiah Love doesn't?
02:23Yeah.
02:23It doesn't.
02:25Like, why would the Tennessee Titans –
02:27Get a running back.
02:28Now, look, you can – we just saw the Super Bowl.
02:31There's Jerry Jones.
02:32That's their next selling point for why the Cowboys can make it next year in Los Angeles with the Super
02:37Bowl we just saw.
02:38And you can be Atlanta.
02:41And you can be Detroit.
02:43Yep.
02:43So, we – I used to think of, and we used to think of, you know, running back is for
02:48a win-now team.
02:49There's no point if you're the Tennessee Titans to get the best running back because you're four years away.
02:57Not necessarily the case.
02:58And the Detroit Lions became contenders with Jameer Gibbs.
03:02Right.
03:02And Atlantic, you know, I always think of them as a 9-8 team, 8-9 team.
03:06They can be on the cusp of the playoffs with Bijan.
03:10Right.
03:10And, look, it's just like the Colorado Rockies going out and spending $15 million a year on Edwin Diaz.
03:15The closer.
03:17No point, right?
03:17They wouldn't do it.
03:18Right.
03:18I don't – the Titans taking a running back.
03:20I mean, look, you're getting a good player.
03:21He's going to help you.
03:23There's no doubt about it.
03:24Is he going to change the fortunes of your franchise?
03:28Not if Cam Ward doesn't succeed.
03:31Are you guys past that timeline thing, that timeline hurdle with the running back mentally in your head of a
03:37bad team like the Jets drafting one?
03:40Or are the Jets just different because they don't have Cam?
03:42Let's take the Titans.
03:44Yeah, so the Titans – so, for instance, here's the write-up on this where they take David Bailey in
03:48the smock,
03:48even though most people have been throwing Jeremiah Love there.
03:51He says there's a lot of buzz.
03:52This is Joe Rexroad, who is the reporter for the Titans.
03:55There's a lot of buzz about the Titans using this pick to take Jeremiah Love after a defense-heavy free
04:00agency period.
04:00But most of those signings are solid complementary pieces.
04:04It's much more difficult to find a game-wrecking edge than it is a productive running back.
04:08And I am thinking that their offensive coordinator there in Tennessee now is Brian Dayball,
04:11who was part of the brain trust, and apparently there was chatter about it, that was fine with, yeah, let's
04:17Saquon go.
04:18Like, we're not doing that.
04:20And so I would not be surprised.
04:21Yeah, yeah, we agree, too.
04:22Like, Philly –
04:23Again, it's like, why should the New York Giants have Saquon Barkley?
04:26Right.
04:27Right.
04:27Philly needed him.
04:29You know, like –
04:29Yeah, I agree.
04:30There's teams that need him.
04:31But then the Lions took Jameer.
04:33I mean, I remember making fun of the Lions.
04:34But I think the Lions had – they hadn't, like, clicked yet, but they had all this talent that they
04:38drafted that they figured was projected.
04:40So they were still bad at the time, but they were – they had a lot of really good young
04:43talent that they thought was going to grow into a good team.
04:45Yeah, they had won, like, eight of their last nine that going into that offseason.
04:51So, yeah, I think they still viewed that as a finishing piece.
04:53So if the Titans took Love, would you support it?
04:57No.
04:58Like, I'd support it because it'd take somebody off the board ahead of Dallas.
05:00No, no, but for them.
05:01Yeah, if I was a Titans fan, I would not want to take Jeremiah Love.
05:04Like, does it make sense for Cleveland to take it back?
05:07It makes sense for Washington to take it back.
05:09Does it make sense for New Orleans to take it back?
05:11I'd say Cleveland, it does make sense.
05:13Why?
05:13They have such an awful financial position with their quarterback spot that that quarterback position is not going to be
05:17good for a while.
05:18So any hope you have of being a good offensive team is going to come from running the ball.
05:22Giants, five.
05:23They take Sonny Stiles, linebacker, Ohio State.
05:26Starting to see that a lot.
05:27Six.
05:28The Cleveland Browns take Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia.
05:34Freeling is a guy who does not get mocked in the top ten very often, except by Browns reporters.
05:40And again, I think that stands out.
05:41Now, the Browns have talked about wanting to trade back.
05:43Cynthia Freeling.
05:43I wonder if the Browns look at it like these reporters are saying, I'm going to mock Freeling at six
05:50to the Browns because we can't trade out of this spot for the purpose of this mock draft, but we
05:55know they want to trade back and get him.
05:56So I wonder if it could be that.
05:58Seven.
05:58Washington Commanders take Caleb down, safety, Ohio State.
06:02We still do not have Jeremiah Love off the board.
06:04Number eight.
06:05New Orleans Saints select Carnell Tate, wide receiver, Ohio State.
06:10Man, I cannot say Carnell Tate.
06:12I want to say Cadillac.
06:13Cadillac Williams?
06:15Like Carnell, Cadillac.
06:16I want to just follow Carnell with Cadillac.
06:18Because it's Tate, I always want to say Carnell Lake.
06:21Number nine.
06:22The Kansas City Chiefs select...
06:25Love?
06:26Jeremiah Love.
06:27You're the insider.
06:28Ruben.
06:29Ruben Bain.
06:30Ruben Bain.
06:30Ruben Bain to the Kansas City Chiefs, which, again, that's long been thought to be his floor, Jeremiah Love.
06:36And with him still on the board, they go, nope, Bain.
06:39Number ten.
06:39The Cincinnati Bengals take the first corner off the board.
06:43Ugh.
06:43Mansoor Delane is gone?
06:45No.
06:46Paul Daner, who is very plugged in with the Cincinnati Bengals, projects the Bengals taking Jermaud McCoy.
06:52Wow!
06:54So that would be...
06:55Somebody else did the dirty work for you.
06:56Dude, that would be so helpful if the first corner off the board ahead of Dallas was McCoy.
07:02None of McCoy's better.
07:04He can be better.
07:05He can be better, but any of them can be better in that top 15.
07:11But I'm saying, like, the risk, that's good news for risk management.
07:16Whose tape is, just straight-up tape, is better between Delane and McCoy?
07:23McCoy's makes you say, wow, more often.
07:25Delane's might be more steady.
07:27Okay.
07:28So, yeah, Dane Berger was like, find me the bad Delane tape.
07:30You can't.
07:31Delane is Byron Jones.
07:33Um, I mean, not size-wise or anything, but...
07:36Like, that type of player.
07:38Steady, yeah.
07:38Look, McCoy, again, I just think it's a huge risk to say, when he steps on the football field,
07:42that'll be the first time he's played in two years, and nobody has seen him play football
07:46outside of as a teenager.
07:47I just want to see him run.
07:48That's just nuts to me.
07:49I want to see him run.
07:50Just run a straight line, and then run one of those shuttles.
07:53Eleven, the Miami Dolphins in this athletic beat-rider mock draft.
07:58Select Spencer Fano, offensive tackle from Utah, who may bump inside and play guard.
08:03This would be close to a dream scenario for the Mavis.
08:07That's who?
08:08Spencer Fano, offensive tackle from Utah to the Dolphins.
08:10So, Stiles.
08:10You didn't say Stiles yet.
08:11Stiles is five.
08:12So, this is close to a dream scenario.
08:14It sucks.
08:15You lose, like, Stiles.
08:16You lose these guys.
08:17But to have...
08:18You don't have Baines, Stiles, Downs.
08:20Mm-hmm.
08:21Or Del...
08:21Oh, you have Delane.
08:22You do have Delane because of McCoy.
08:24Yeah.
08:24So, if you would have had, I mean, three offensive tackles and McCoy go ahead of Dallas,
08:31that would help push some of these other names that we've talked about down the board.
08:35And ultimately, the only one left of the guys we've consistently talked about at pick 12,
08:39the Dallas Cowboys for John Machoda in this draft.
08:41Select Monsor, Delane, cornerback, LSU.
08:44And then, the Rams take Mekhi Lemon at 13.
08:4814, the Ravens finally...
08:49I only stop on this because the Ravens finally at 14 take Jeremiah Love.
08:53If you got the Ravens on a down year...
08:56Oh, God.
08:57...to just luck into...
08:5814 is where Kyle Hamilton just fell to them, too.
09:01And they're like, okay, cool.
09:02We'll take Kyle Hamilton.
09:03And so, if they were to take Jeremiah Love at 14, if he really fell that far,
09:07that would be so bad for the rest of the NFL.
09:10Well, let's have the love conversation at 12.
09:14So, that's exactly what I was going to ask.
09:16So, there's...
09:17If you've got...
09:18Yes.
09:18Because if you jump down to 20...
09:19Yes!
09:20Yes.
09:20Who are you?
09:22You need to reverse your name.
09:23You know what?
09:25From now on today, you are J.R. Choppy.
09:29No more R.J.
09:30You flipped.
09:31You flipped everything.
09:32You are J.R.
09:33J.R. Choppy.
09:34A running back at 12?
09:35I am allowed.
09:36A running back at 12 for you?
09:37You are allowed to adapt.
09:39Who are you?
09:40Adapt to die.
09:40You're allowed to adapt to die.
09:41J.R.
09:44If you catch me saying R.J. in the next week, I've got to...
09:48Just say Ralph.
09:49Just say Ralph.
09:49No.
09:50It's reverse.
09:50That loses my point.
09:52Yeah.
09:52Loses my joke.
09:53I'm going to put some money in the Corinth jar here.
09:56By the way, 12th pick was Jameer Gibbs.
09:59As you mentioned Jameer Gibbs.
10:00He was the number 12 pick, too.
10:02And that's where Dallas is picking.
10:03So, 20, though, where they take C.J. Allen.
10:05He has C.J. Allen going to the Cowboys at 20, John.
10:08So, this is actually a two-sided question here.
10:1121, the next pick is Vega Yohani, who is the guard from Penn State.
10:16In both instances, Yohani at 20, when you take Allen, is, I think, by most people's measure,
10:23a significantly better-graded prospect.
10:27At 12, good as Mansoor Delaney is, most people would have Jeremiah Love as a significantly better-graded prospect.
10:34So, would you swap two really steady defensive players, Delaney and Allen?
10:39Neither one of them are super flashy.
10:40They're both really steady at corner and linebacker.
10:43Would you swap either one of those for, I could be getting a player that people think is significantly better
10:49at running back or guard in exchange for this?
10:54So, here's the thing.
10:56Because the guard, you would imagine, that would move Tyler Smith out to left tackle, then?
11:01Uh, yeah, look, this, Love is a, just a, awesome player.
11:08Um, does he remind you of anyone?
11:12Ah, I'm terrible with that.
11:13Because this is the way you've got to tell, the way you've got to talk me into this is to
11:16tell me that his floor,
11:19I mean, he's Bijan and Jameer.
11:20You've got to tell me that.
11:21Well, and if, and if the person in that room is wrong, you're fired.
11:24Yeah, look, and I'll be honest with you, my, my, if, if this scenario happens, I'm, I'm,
11:29my number one thing is to trade out of the pick because someone's going to want to come get him.
11:33Yeah, well, explain, though, why you take him at 12.
11:35So, uh, uh, I, I, look, I like Javante.
11:41Javante is not a, a difference maker.
11:44He's a steady running back.
11:46Yep.
11:47Um, and there's, there's call for that.
11:49Curtis Martin was a hell of a player.
11:51There's not a single team out there that says, I don't want Curtis Martin on my team.
11:54Right.
11:55Um, Jeremiah Love is a, is a difference-making type of a, of a player.
12:00Like, he changes your franchise from that position.
12:04Not as a, not as a whole, but from that position, he changes your franchise.
12:07It's, it's something that you've got to consider to the point where it's like, all right, my,
12:11if this falls where it's both Delane and, and Love on the board,
12:15I'm seeing if Baltimore will trade up two spots.
12:19I'm dropping back to 14, hoping Delane's still there.
12:21I don't know.
12:22I, I don't totally agree with the comp, but I will say the most common comp you get from
12:26draft analysts, Lance Zerline, I think Daniel Jeremiah said it, the most common comp you've
12:30gotten for Jeremiah Love is Jameer Gibbs.
12:34And what are you doing, Bobby?
12:36At 12.
12:37I'm not taking Gibbs.
12:39I, I would take Delane.
12:39I could potentially be talked into taking Yohani over Allen at 20.
12:43I am not, I'm not going to take him at 12.
12:47So that is interesting.
12:49The beat writer draft on the home of the Cowboys.
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