00:00Let me ask you guys this. I brought it up earlier. I was thinking about going up.
00:05I like it. I was thinking about going up, making sure if you want to go get Caleb Downs or
00:09one of those guys.
00:11I kind of feel like teams are being crusty right now.
00:15You're going to have a chance to be able to draft a guy like that if you just sit there.
00:21Okay, I was thinking about this because they're of the premium defenders that we're all in love with.
00:30You've got to keep using the word premium for, huh?
00:33They're just top tier defenders.
00:34Who would not be a premium defender to you?
00:38Is it just position-wise or are you just like they're not?
00:41No, I just mean they're not best players.
00:43Caleb Downs is not a premium position, you would say, but he's a premium player.
00:47Fair.
00:48That's what I'm talking about.
00:49I'll get those top guys that you want to fall to you to 12.
00:51It seems like Downs or Bain could be there at 12.
00:55Sure.
00:56And so it's like, okay, obviously that's a risk you're taking if you're not going to get aggressive and move
01:00up.
01:00But I was thinking about what Jay Glazer told us at the Super Bowl
01:04and how he's always in contact with these teams and letting them know, like, hey, yeah,
01:10this team is going to take this guy and he knows what.
01:13Jay Glazer is going to be a huge asset for the Cowboys on draft night.
01:17That's a good point.
01:18And in lead-up, right?
01:19Like, you've got to use that.
01:21Be like, Jay, what do you think, bro?
01:22Like, Jay might be the guy that's telling you, yeah, you're going to have to move up.
01:26You might have to go to six.
01:27Or you've got to hire Mike McCarthy as a coach.
01:30Yeah, that's right.
01:31He'll also give you that.
01:32So, yeah, you've got to make sure that he'll ball sack you from time to time.
01:35Talking to Jay, make sure that you've got it for the draft content and not for the hiring content.
01:41And how much pressure is that on Jay Glazer to be like, hey, guys, no, you're good.
01:46Like, sit there at 12 and you're going to be able to get downs.
01:48Or sit there at 12 and you're going to be able to get Bane.
01:49And then all of a sudden they both go off the board and Steven and Jerry are calling them like,
01:53what in the F?
01:53I respect Jay Glazer.
01:57I really do.
01:58It's a dangerous business he plays doing that.
02:00A hundred percent of it?
02:01Because it's a dangerous business because you want to tell Jay Glazer what you're doing in order to get information
02:08from him.
02:09You know what I'm saying?
02:10That's the trade-off.
02:11That's the trade-off.
02:12Like, you see any trade something else, he's trading information.
02:15What is she trading?
02:17She's trading...
02:18Fresh-baked cookies.
02:21I don't know how fresh they are.
02:23She's trading some cookies.
02:27Just some cookies.
02:29She's a heck of a cook.
02:32You know?
02:32You got something I want, I got something you want.
02:34Some half-eaten cookies.
02:38Might be a little stale.
02:39Yeah, exactly.
02:41But, see, that's what I'm saying.
02:44If I'm the Cowboys, and Steven Jones and Jay Glazer are best friends.
02:51They are.
02:51See, I mean, Mike McCarthy was here because of Jay Glazer.
02:55So we saw him at that Italian restaurant in Noxnard.
02:57They were eating spaghetti like Lady and the Tramp style together.
03:00They were.
03:00It was pretty crazy what they did with those balls.
03:02It was impressive.
03:03You got to be like, do you really want to tell Jay Glazer what you're doing?
03:06And is Jay Glazer actually giving you good information?
03:09Well, I think the Cowboys absolutely, unequivocally trust him.
03:13Oh, they do.
03:14I like that 9-7-2.
03:16Like, get Oz the Mentalist in your draft room.
03:18Oh, yes.
03:19And he's been on it a lot.
03:21Well, how good do you think the relationship is with the front office and Kellen Moore still?
03:26I think there's – I think that Kellen Moore doesn't like Mike McCarthy.
03:32Yeah.
03:33I think they're okay with Jerry and Steven.
03:35Because I wonder, like, at 8, like, let's say you don't go to 6.
03:37Jeff Ireland's there over there, too.
03:39Yeah.
03:40Jeff Ireland's like the pseudo – he's like director of player personnel.
03:44His mom was not a prostitute.
03:46And Mickey Loomis' son works with the Cowboys.
03:51Saints got relationships with the Cowboys.
03:55Because Nick threw out – he's got trade-ups.
03:56And one of them was with New Orleans.
04:00And, you know, I thought that the New Orleans trade-up made some sense.
04:04Give me the numbers.
04:05You're not having to give up 20.
04:07I think it's just 92.
04:09I think you're just giving up 12 or 92.
04:10Did your computer just crap out on you?
04:12No, it's – I don't – I don't subscribe to the Star-Telegram.
04:16So I only have –
04:17Wow, dude.
04:17Shots fired at Nick.
04:18Well, he's told me before, at least click on it.
04:21Oh, okay.
04:22So what I do is I click on it and I scroll real fast.
04:25And I just try and see as much as I can.
04:28So it's 12, 92, and 112.
04:30And you're getting back – gosh, dang it, no!
04:32You're getting back 8.
04:34And I think they're kicking you an extra 4, I want to say.
04:37I'm going to scroll real fast.
04:38And it's – yeah, it's 8.
04:40So you've got to give up your 3rd and 4th to move up there.
04:43I don't know if you'd want to do that.
04:44I'd prefer to do the other one you guys talk about with the Browns.
04:47Just to be able to get back 39.
04:48But really, I'm only here for –
04:50You're keeping 20.
04:51I'm here for the Aggie fight, dude.
04:53Okay, here's my question about the Aggie thing.
04:55Because I was listening to you about Besantis, and it's not like I love Besantis.
04:58My question is –
04:59How much – I mean, first –
05:01Who's Besantis?
05:02Besantis is a guard.
05:03He's a guard for Texas A&M.
05:04And if Dane has floated, he might be a guy that ends up going late 1.
05:07Yeah, which I think is ridiculous.
05:09I know you do.
05:10And I like him more than you do.
05:12And it's not like I'm going to stand on the table for this guy.
05:14I've got him in the second round.
05:15Okay.
05:16My big question was, what were the games that you watched of his?
05:19Texas-Miami.
05:20Okay.
05:21If you watched any player from Texas A&M against Texas and Miami, you're not going to like that player.
05:25But I'm watching better players.
05:27But if – okay.
05:28If you just watched – my whole thing here was like, if you just watched Cassius Howell, who you like,
05:34if you only watched Cassius Howell against Texas and Miami, you're not going to like Cassius Howell.
05:39Yeah.
05:40Right?
05:41So are you giving the player's due here?
05:43I am actually giving this player's due.
05:45I don't think this player moves particularly well.
05:47Okay.
05:47I don't.
05:49And I – listen, the Texas and Miami game, it's the competition level of it.
05:54I hear you.
05:55It's fine.
05:56His feet don't always move well with this player.
05:59I don't know how you draft – and listen, you drafted a guy like Booker because he's big and he
06:05can move.
06:06Yeah.
06:07Yeah, he moves people.
06:08But Cassius does not.
06:09I don't see this as a first-round player that way.
06:12I agree.
06:13So to me, that's where – and I get it.
06:16There's certain game films you could watch.
06:18You know, I could make a – and I'm not saying this to you.
06:22I can make a highlight tape of a wide receiver, but, like, not do the games where, like, McCoy or
06:31Delane or somebody like that's covering him.
06:33Sure, sure.
06:34Because, like, I watch Notre Dame-LSU-Auburn, and I agree with you 100%.
06:37I don't think he's a great run blocker.
06:38I think he's a good pass blocker.
06:40I think the longer he has to block, the longer he has to block, the more problems he has.
06:46Sure.
06:47And I see the struggle with the lateral movement.
06:49I mean, there's – listen, I just think there's just this tendency to reach for the defenders instead of punching
06:56with the guy.
06:57You know, the pass protection and stuff like that.
06:59But when he has to deal with quick movement, and that's what Miami and Texas and those guys –
07:04but that's who he's going to play against, I mean, on a weekly basis, right?
07:09Yes, which is why I have soured on Cassius Howell.
07:13See, I understand what you're saying about Cassius Howell.
07:16I understand that.
07:17I just want to keep it 100% with that, because I think what you're saying is totally fair.
07:22Yeah.
07:22If you're basing, like, okay, he's playing the – those are the two best teams, in my opinion.
07:26Notre Dame, you could put his third.
07:28Right.
07:28But A&M played.
07:29And I'm with you.
07:29Besantis doesn't look great.
07:31But I cannot get out of my mind, and I really liked Cassius Howell in the first two games I
07:36watched.
07:36Then I went and watched him in the playoff against Miami and against Texas, and he does nothing, and he
07:40gets worked.
07:41And now I'm like, do I really like Cassius Howell?
07:43Is he a player that I would take in the first round?
07:45I think no.
07:46I think, to me, when you start to look at – I think you have a legitimate argument,
07:52and I think people around the league are coming your direction about Lawrence.
07:58Oh, Malachi Lawrence?
07:59Yeah.
07:59I think so.
07:59Good player.
08:00And I – if you want to talk about a guy that potentially could get picked late one,
08:06there's people that believe that Malachi Lawrence is the best edge rusher in the draft.
08:12Wow.
08:12Wow, I love that.
08:14That he's better than Bailey, better than Bain, better than Mesidor, better than Howell.
08:21What about him is better?
08:23Mason Thomas.
08:25Talk about him.
08:26He's your guy.
08:27Yeah, I'm a big Malachi Lawrence fan.
08:29And now he is also –
08:30And I really do appreciate – because watching him live at the East-West game,
08:36watching him rush, you got a legitimate fight in a good way with this guy.
08:41Yeah.
08:41So I watched him against Baylor, Tech, and BYU.
08:44Now, again, the offensive tackle play, BYU had some solid tackles.
08:48Yeah.
08:49Tech average, Baylor average.
08:51But all big 12 first-team guy.
08:53He had seven sacks, 11 TFLs.
08:55I think it's the leverage.
08:56He understands leverage.
08:57He's always seeming to be in a favorable position with his pad level to make it incredibly difficult to block
09:02him off the edge.
09:03Fast hands, plays with power, tremendous trigger at the snap to shoot upfield.
09:08It's the first step with him.
09:09He just wins sometimes just with that step.
09:11He's got a knack for attacking the football.
09:13He goes for the strip fumble.
09:15Now, he's a guy that can play two-point, stand-up, edge, outside linebacker, three-point, put your hand in
09:20the ground.
09:20I like the play recognition against the run.
09:23This is why I half-hit him ahead of Cassius Howell when I was comparing both.
09:26Yeah.
09:27He's a better run defender than what Howell is.
09:29But I think he gives you everything that Howell does in terms of speed rusher.
09:32But I think he's more of a power player.
09:34He's able to get his arms extended to keep linemen off of his chest, keep him clean.
09:38Can dip under, use the speed to win around the edge.
09:41Counter moves are there with him.
09:43When he gets initially beat, he finds he's got a plan.
09:45He can win with the counter.
09:46He can improve his consistency in the run game if I had to find a negative.
09:50But I love the size and I love the pass rush ability.
09:52NFL scouts agree with him.
09:54Everything that he's saying about Lawrence as opposed to Howell is exactly what scouts are telling me.
10:04They always ask, where do you have Howell in the second round?
10:08Do you have him above Lawrence?
10:10Well, yeah, I do.
10:12Well, you probably need to change that.
10:14But, you know, you probably need to change that.
10:18Lawrence is getting a lot of love out there.
10:21But I can say, I understand what you're saying about watching the tape or watching certain games.
10:27Sure.
10:28I like the games that you're talking about there.
10:30But the Basanti stuff to me, the thing with A, I'm trying to think about guys that he's going to
10:36go against.
10:37Or the type of player he's going to go against in the NFL.
10:41And if he's struggling with movement, his own movement against those guys, then, you know, listen, he's not a bad
10:49player.
10:50I'm not taking him in the first round.
10:53Like, he'll probably go in the first round.
10:56Because they'll fall in love.
10:57They'll probably have watched the games you were talking about.
11:00The Auburn game and the other games like that.
11:02LSU, yeah.
11:03But when these guys don't perform, you kind of need to go back and see, well, what games were you
11:09watching?
11:10You know, why were you, okay, I see what you're talking about now.
11:13I think he's a good player.
11:15I wouldn't take him in the first round, though.
11:16That's just me.
11:17There it is.
11:18Crossy's Corner.
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