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The GBAG Nation discussed the Cowboys’ draft outlook, highlighting local running back Seth McGowan as a potential late-round option and debating how teams would weigh his past off-field issues against his production. They also broke down whether traits like arm length and coverage ability should have impacted the evaluation of players like Rueben Bain Jr., and more.

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00:00Okay, the first Cowboys headline I want to bring to you is actually from the world of the NBA,
00:06but I actually think it's relevant for the Cowboys.
00:09This is Nikolaj Jokic on Mike Malone getting the head coaching job at UNC.
00:14Quote, I think he's going to do a really good job because he can actually coach the guys
00:19and teach them how to play the game the right way.
00:21I'm happy for him.
00:23And of course, this is Cowboys relevant because that's something they've prioritized,
00:28especially this year with Coach Schottenheimer looking for defensive coaches.
00:32They're looking for teachers.
00:34And Jokic, one of the best players in his sport, a multiple-time MVP,
00:38talking about how important it is even to the highest levels to have people who can teach this sport to
00:44people.
00:44And I don't know how sports get so detached from that.
00:48It's probably because they're so accomplished.
00:51And it's intimidating, I think, for coaches to have to try to coach millionaire athletes
00:57who have spent so much time and know so much themselves.
01:00But I think that is going to be the trend, not only in football, but basketball and other sports,
01:08is instead of the yeller and the drill sergeant type of coach,
01:13who are the educators, who are the relationship builders?
01:16And it's really cool to see the Cowboys at the front end of that trend.
01:19The other thing is I'm wondering what David Adelman and Hubert Davis must be thinking about this.
01:26I guess Jokic doesn't think they are actually capable of doing those parts of their job.
01:33Okay, so that's the first thing here in the C-Note, Cowboys news of the evening.
01:36The next thing is Dez Bryant.
01:39Okay, you saw yesterday the rapper Offset was shot.
01:41You see, about an hour ago, Dez posted on Twitter something about Offset.
01:46No, no.
01:46Pretty dang interesting.
01:47He retweeted a story about Offset owing another rapper $10,000.
01:55And a DM from Offset tells the guy, come get it back in blood, he said to Offset.
02:04And then apparently Offset was shot a little while later.
02:08But Dez posted on Twitter this afternoon.
02:10He says, quote, I don't ever talk about what I do or my relationships with anyone.
02:14But I'm going to give you all a quick story between me and Offset.
02:18I beat him for $8,000.
02:20He tried to take a nap on me.
02:22And I go to tap on him to wake him up, telling him I need that $8,000.
02:27His partner saw me tapping on him.
02:30And I could tell his partners wanted to jump in on some BS.
02:33So I chilled out because I was by myself and completely outnumbered.
02:37So I charged it to the game.
02:39I swear to God, Offset reached out to me yesterday, three hours before he got shot on a money play.
02:45I thought about it and said, I'm good.
02:47And then I saw the news later on.
02:49I was like, damn, some people don't play about their money.
02:54So, yeah, apparently you got maybe a track record of that for Offset.
02:59Good thing he survived.
03:00Yeah.
03:02Man, that's – I guess you had a $10,000 beef between him and another rapper.
03:06So, yeah, you're right.
03:08I mean, that's wild.
03:09Okay.
03:10So those ones, you know, maybe from the outskirts of Cowboys news.
03:15Let's bring it back home, give you some Cowboys draft content.
03:18Here's a fun one from Joseph Hoyt, Dallas Morning News.
03:21Here's Kentucky running back Seth McGowan, Mesquite Poteet alum.
03:28Was it Dallas days last week?
03:30Cowboys were taking a look at him.
03:32Okay.
03:33He started at OU.
03:34Got into a little bit of legal hot water, didn't he?
03:37Yeah.
03:37Pulled a robbery back in 2021.
03:40He's hanging around some bad people.
03:41And he actually went to prison for three months.
03:44He was on parole for a while.
03:46But it took him a couple of years to get his collegiate career back on track,
03:49which he successfully accomplished at Kentucky.
03:52And he ran a 4-4-9, 6-foot-2-23, had a good broad jump, had a good vertical
03:58leap.
03:59And I guess could be a later day three pick here for a guy out of Mesquite.
04:03He is a guy that is especially good around the goal line.
04:07You hand him the ball, he's got a nose for getting into the end zone.
04:11I don't see a lot of a void with this guy when it comes to running the football.
04:16I don't see that ability to make you miss.
04:19But he is not afraid of contact.
04:23You know, you kind of see him catching the ball, too.
04:26They'll line him up wide outside, stuff like that.
04:29And he'll run, like, wheel routes, things like that.
04:32So you can throw him the ball and he'll be okay.
04:34But there's just not a lot to his game when it comes to that making people miss.
04:42He will catch the ball and he will run over you.
04:45That's kind of how he plays.
04:46And we'll see how teams have, you know, how do they look at the robbery situation and the assault and
04:53all that stuff.
04:54Do they say, ah, we don't want to deal with this?
04:56Or is this kind of all behind him?
04:58This happened five years ago.
05:01Yeah, absolutely.
05:02That's when he first got to OU.
05:03So, yeah.
05:04So he's, you know, you just never know.
05:06Do people say, oh, it's something in the past?
05:09Or is this something that's going to kind of stay with him throughout his career?
05:15Yeah, it's definitely something you'd want to do just do a little bit of research on.
05:18Like, did he clearly learn from that?
05:20Or, you know, is he still moving around in a way that would suggest maybe he has not totally, you
05:27know, moved on from that?
05:28But I'd say five years is a pretty significant amount of time.
05:31Yeah.
05:31And a pretty good player.
05:33And he served his time.
05:33He served his time as well.
05:35Looks like he's got a good vision, good downhill approach to it.
05:39Yeah, I mean, he's definitely an in-between-the-tackles bruiser.
05:41Yeah, he is.
05:41He's going to just plow in there.
05:43That's kind of his game.
05:45And like I say, nothing flashy, nothing super impressive, but he finds a way to score with the ball in
05:51his hands when he gets down in that red zone.
05:53It's always fun when a local guy gets an opportunity to try out for the Cowboys or play for the
05:57Cowboys and, you know, be rooting for him and track him.
06:01And I do think there is a chance, with everything that you said being true, you know, that if the
06:07Cowboys did find a way to add him late in day three or maybe as an undrafted guy,
06:12looking at this running back room, and it's not necessarily because I think Seth McGowan is super talented or anything,
06:19but looking at this running back room, I could see him being a piece for them next year.
06:22Definitely.
06:23I mean, look, is he better than Phil Moffa?
06:25I don't think so.
06:26But it's possible that he could be.
06:27I mean, I think E.J. Smith is going to be in that conversation.
06:30Those are two local kids.
06:31E.J. Smith was a star at Jesuit.
06:32Seth McGowan at Poteet.
06:34I think both of them probably expected to be more successful in college than they were.
06:38The 4-4-9 was actually a surprising good time for McGowan.
06:41Very surprising.
06:41He does not have a lot of long speed.
06:44Yeah, not at all.
06:45Yeah, that's what I noticed when I turned on his games.
06:48I was like, where is the 4-4-9 speed and the 43-inch vert and the 10-foot, 11
06:55-inch broad jump, I think.
06:57Like, the guy really had a nice performance at the Combine, but it didn't show up on film enough to
07:03believe.
07:04Okay, John Mishota, as the athletic, he's running through some mocks
07:08and projects what he thinks will happen on the 23rd, and he believes it's going to be Ruben Bain at
07:1512.
07:16Just to idiot-proof myself on some things here with Ruben Bain, we've been talking about can their outside linebackers
07:23zone drop?
07:24Is he a guy that can do that?
07:26Mezzador did it more than Bain did.
07:28Yeah.
07:28You would see Mezzador drop, and he would have to carry some backs downfield.
07:32I don't remember.
07:33I think he could.
07:34I don't remember them really dropping Bain a lot, though.
07:37No, I don't.
07:38I think that's something that you probably, you know, I'm going to say I wouldn't do it.
07:43You wouldn't do it with Bain?
07:44No.
07:44How big of a deal-breaker is it if a guy can't do that?
07:49You know what?
07:49I'd like to say that it's not.
07:51Right?
07:52Like, if you're Christian Parker, and I get there's probably things that you'd like to do,
07:55but he also kind of seems like one of those coaches that's like,
07:58let me look at the things that you can do, and let me play to your strength.
08:01So if a guy is checking off enough boxes, and oh, he's not the greatest dropping into coverage,
08:06like, if that's going to be a reason you're not going to take a guy,
08:09I don't know.
08:09I got some questions then.
08:10That doesn't make sense to me.
08:12If there's way more good than there is, oh, he can't drop, and that's the reason you're
08:15not going to take him, that doesn't really sit great with me.
08:19Don't tell me about the think smart, and you want smart football players, and multiple.
08:23Like, this guy does enough good to where, if you're not going to have him dropping coverage,
08:27you can do that with Donovan Ezrako or somebody else.
08:29It's okay.
08:30He's still going to be able to make plays for you.
08:32I mean, just generally, as a football player, if you can't zone drop, but you set an edge,
08:36and you hunt the quarterback, you're fine.
08:38And specifically in Christian Parker's defense, like, how much do they want the threat that
08:43you could do that to free up the guys behind you to go do other stuff, to change the picture
08:49for the opposing quarterback as much as possible?
08:51And it's just very difficult to answer that question at this point.
08:55Yeah, it's a lot of unknown.
08:56There's a lot of unknown.
08:56But I think for Christian Parker, he seems like the adaptable type of stuff that we praise
09:01Dan Quinn.
09:02Yes.
09:02I think CP's going to have that.
09:04I'm hoping that that's his style of coaching, where, like, I'm going to put these guys and
09:08fit them to what their skill sets and their strengths are, versus I'm going to try and
09:11do the square peg, round hole type thing.
09:14It's going to be at that press conference.
09:16We're going to be heading on our way home from Pluckers.
09:18You guys will be heading on your way home from the star and Jerry and Steven and Shada.
09:22You're going to be up there talking about stuff and the decisions that they made.
09:25And I think it's probably at that point that some of these questions we've had will be revealed.
09:30What do we know about how the Cowboys are looking at arm length with their edges?
09:35Do we know anything to be factual after the media sessions that have happened?
09:39Or are we still waiting for that to unfold over the next couple of draft cycles?
09:44I don't know.
09:46Like I said, to me, there's plenty of players in this draft where Dallas are picking that
09:52do have the length and all that.
09:54But do they have the ability that, like, Bain has?
09:57I didn't get the impression that the thing that I think that will be about Bain is what
10:04we talked about the other day.
10:05You know, where he is with some of the things that are kind of...
10:09Maybe his personal life?
10:11The personal stuff.
10:12I mean, how is he taking that?
10:14How is he answering those questions for teams?
10:19The whispers are that some teams are kind of turned off by the way that he's answered
10:24some of the things in his past.
10:26I've seen some reports that some teams really don't even have him high on their board specifically
10:31because of the arm length.
10:32Yeah.
10:33I mean, there are some teams that that is a real thing to them.
10:36And there's others that maybe it doesn't matter at all.
10:38I just...
10:39I get in this discussion with...
10:40And I know it doesn't answer your question, Dawson.
10:43I got in this discussion with Dane Brugler today.
10:45And Dane is one of these...
10:47You know, this matters.
10:48It matters.
10:49It matters.
10:49I'm like, well, how can you watch 17 games with him with short arms and, like, win down
10:55after down after down?
10:57How can you...
10:58You know, and we're talking about quality offensive title.
11:02You go through the playoffs, you know, we're watching kids.
11:05We're watching all these Texas A&M offensive linemen.
11:08And we're all like, oh, well, this guy is this.
11:10And this guy could do that.
11:11And he's just destroying those guys.
11:14How do you...
11:15How do you sit there and say, oh, short arms is...
11:18Will be a problem with this guy.
11:19And I think Dane's right.
11:21I think some teams do look at it and go, well, he's an outlier.
11:25He's not...
11:26Well, Aaron Donald was a damn outlier, too.
11:29But then you watch Aaron Donald play against Zach Martin, who is another short arm guy.
11:33You know?
11:34So, to me, I just think we make way too big of a deal, especially if you watch the guy
11:41have production on a weekly basis.
11:45He, for a guy, he just does not give you anything to hit when he rushes.
11:51You know, Dane's like, well, that's having long arms.
11:54That's your advantage as an offensive lineman.
11:56And I'm like, well, how many times do you see offensive linemen really extend on defensive linemen?
12:02And usually when they do...
12:04And there's been long arm tackles that haven't been worth a damn either.
12:08You know?
12:09So, I think, me personally, I think teams need to, you know, get off that whole thing about
12:18long arms, short arms, and all that stuff.
12:20I just watch the damn tape and kind of look at it in a way of like, okay, what can
12:26we do
12:26with this guy to have success?
12:28And, you know, we were talking about Mesidor yesterday.
12:31And they're like, oh, well, Mesidor had success because of who?
12:36Bane.
12:36Yeah, we set up for a lot of us one-on-ones.
12:39So, I personally, I think the Cowboys, if they move on from Bane or don't draft Bane,
12:46it might be something that they found off the field that they didn't like about the player.
12:52Yeah, and maybe they're drawing a line in the sand on that off-the-field stuff.
12:55And they're drawing a line, obviously, on what's going on with injury, too.
13:00Yes.
13:00But maybe not on 40 time for maybe on Terrell, because Mishota, who's an insider, lives in
13:07the building.
13:07He's got the Cowboys taking Terrell at 20 from Clemson.
13:11Guy that did not have a good 40 time, had to end his workout early.
13:14Is the belief that Terrell's 40 time was hampered by injury?
13:19That would be the only way I could see it.
13:21If you're running in the mid-4-6s, I don't have a spot for you in the first round.
13:25That's day three type of stuff, if I'm looking at corners.
13:27No, that's totally fair.
13:28And I understand, like, maybe that's reason for pause.
13:31When you just watched him play, and I'm not really...
13:33Yeah, I mean, I just didn't see a slow player.
13:36I thought, I mean, maybe, like, he's...
13:37I mean, some guys just are football fast.
13:39I think that's what the testing is good for, though, because it's like, where are you going
13:43to struggle as the game gets significantly more difficult, and the NFL players are just
13:48better at taking away your space and your initiative.
13:52And maybe that's, if the Cowboys end up trading back, like, maybe that'll cause him to fall,
13:56and you could end up getting him at a better value.
13:58But it really didn't impact, especially the fact that he didn't miss any time in college.
14:03Like, it's not the same thing when you're talking about Jordan Tyson or some of these
14:06other guys that have had lingering hammy issues.
14:08This is the first time he's had one, to my knowledge.
14:11So, I think, it didn't really affect my thinking on him, but maybe others will.
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