E' di Casandrino, che è provincia di Napoli, Rosa Della Corte. E lo splendore di quella sua insolente bellezza, illuminava quella periferia dove il sole fatica a penetrare e veloce al tramonto si spegne. Affascinante, ribelle, trasgressiva, aveva poco più di 18 anni Rosa Della Corte, nel 2003, quando entra in carcere col peso di un'accusa atroce, quanto densa di mistero: con due coltellate al petto, aveva ucciso il fidanzato Salvatore Pollasto, 21 anni, militare in servizio di leva, ragazzo di esemplare virtù. Questa l'accusa per quel delitto. Un'accusa, una colpa che Rosa ha sempre disperatamente negato. Per Rosa, sono 18 gli anni di carcere da scontare. E il carcere, lei - turbolenta e indomabile - l'ha sempre vissuto come una violenza difficile da sopportare. Ma è proprio il carcere che le regala un nuovo amore. Lo incontra in parlatorio, quel suo nuovo ragazzo. E con lui fugge, a fine agosto 2014, a conclusione di una licenza premio di sei giorni. Cosa sia accaduto a Rosa durante quella fuga, quale sia il destino di quel suo nuovo amore, lo ricostruisce Franca Leosini in questa puntata, durante la quale viene anche riproposta la straordinaria intervista, nella quale Rosa - bellissima, ribelle, spregiudicata - racconta la sua verità per quella torbida storia di sesso e di sangue.
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00:00:10O Lord, O Lord, O Lord,
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00:02:07Ouch God, Ouch God, Ouch God, Ouch God, Ouch God
00:02:20A handsome Neapolitan boy, Salvatore, of exemplary virtue, sick only by incurable love for his restless and transgressive girlfriend.
00:02:31Two stab wounds to the abdomen had taken his life, while Rosa was having hot sex with him.
00:02:39This is the court's accusation against Rosa, an accusation, a guilt that Rosa has always desperately rejected.
00:02:46And in prison, a wild, hard-to-tame puleta, Rosa champs at the bit, kicks, rebels.
00:02:54These are long years, hard years, difficult years for Rosa, years of bitter, angry solitude, broken only by periodic meetings with
00:03:03the family members.
00:03:05Encounters longed for and dreamed of by the inmates, who in the interview room encounter hugs, tears, silences, and glances.
00:03:13And it resembles the look of Salvatore Pollasto, that love of his extinguished in the blood, the look of that boy,
00:03:21who she meets in the prison visiting room.
00:03:25His name is Lorenzo Trazza, that boy, and he goes to visit his sister who is Rosa's partner, Scella and
00:03:31of Pena.
00:03:33Lorenzo is from Muro Leccese, he is 26 years old, and he is a cook by profession.
00:03:39It's love again for Rosa, and burning passion for Lorenzo.
00:03:49Lorenzo and Rosa, as they affectionately say in those parts, are getting engaged.
00:03:54And the wheel of destiny seems to have resumed its virtuous rotation for Rosa.
00:03:59It will be love, it will be whatever it will be, but it happens that, as a prisoner, undisciplined, restless, quarrelsome,
00:04:05Rosa transforms into a model prisoner.
00:04:08Three years of good behavior, with the resulting beneficial effect of sentence reductions and reward permits.
00:04:15And Rosa spends those free days with her new love at her home, which is in Casandrino, and at
00:04:21Naples.
00:04:22But for Rosa, stability is a volatile concept, and the scenario changes again.
00:04:36And it's the end of August, we're talking about this August of 2014.
00:04:40Rosa, who had been granted a six-day release, was due to return to Lecce prison on August 23.
00:04:47But in search of a clear area, Rosa fled.
00:04:52It was certainly her who wanted to escape, as she simply didn't want to go back behind bars and gates.
00:05:01It was undoubtedly him who did not prevent her from doing so, who supported her in that senseless, clumsy, precarious escape,
00:05:08that boyfriend who is in love and unable to resist her.
00:05:12But how did Rosa manage to convince Lorenzo to become an accomplice to an act called escape and which
00:05:19is it a serious crime?
00:05:20Plot twist.
00:05:22Rosa allegedly told her boyfriend that she no longer wanted to return to the Lecce prison because a police officer was there
00:05:31prisoner allegedly tried to rape her.
00:05:35And the extremely jealous boyfriend, upset and furious, instead of logically convincing Rosa to go to the police, go to the carabinieri,
00:05:44to hand himself in and at the same time denounce the wicked agent, provided that the attempted violence is real,
00:05:52he lets Rosa convince him to support her in her escape.
00:05:56While they are chased and hunted, moreover with a display of forces worthy of a Totorina,
00:06:03the two fugitives are camped, as best they can, on a beach on the Roman coast.
00:06:08A freedom that, due to its disastrous discomfort, imprisons the feelings of the two fiancés in the darkness of despair.
00:06:16When the money runs out, the arguments begin.
00:06:20There's a Romanian in the area, he's camped in a villa.
00:06:25Rosa is aiming at that Romanian, and Rosa is blindfolded by that Romanian.
00:06:30She likes him and needs him, he has money and a roof over his head, that Romanian.
00:06:36Lorenzo, jealous, becomes furious, dumps Rosa, abandons her to her fate and shows up in Rome, at the Carabinieri in the EUR district.
00:06:46But it's not Lorenzo who tells the police where Rosa is hiding.
00:06:53It's a massive task force committed to finding Rosa,
00:06:59and finds her in the Romanian's house, the latest prey of the enchanting Puleidra Selvarga.
00:07:08To know Rosa deeply, to understand why Rosa fled in search of free space,
00:07:15she escaped, thus losing prison benefits acquired over time and earning, alas, an increased sentence,
00:07:22Let's see together what Rosa della Corte, in a crude way, without false modesty,
00:07:27she told me in October 2009, when I met her in the Perugia prison.
00:07:34This is what we will follow together, Rosa's truth about that murky story of sex and blood.
00:07:49It does not resemble the splendor of the city on the outskirts of Naples,
00:07:53it is bare and shabby, it is desolate and neglected.
00:07:56The outskirts are Casandrino, where the city slips into the dilapidated greyness of warehouses and factories.
00:08:02It's a dead-end street, Via Agrigento. You can't just wander into that barren alley, you just go.
00:08:07Well parked 50 centimetres from the wall, a Y-10 had been there, who knows, maybe for hours.
00:08:14and inside it the half-naked young man appeared to be sleeping, lying in the driver's seat.
00:08:20That young man, 21 years old, a career soldier in the Alpine troops, is called Salvatore Pollasto,
00:08:25in that desolate suburb, in his Y-10, they found him lifeless on April 4, 2003, at 8 in the morning.
00:08:33With his sweatshirt raised and his trousers lowered, Salvatore has clear signs of binding on his wrists,
00:08:39two stab wounds to the abdomen, they took his life.
00:08:43Who made those two stab wounds?
00:08:45Who killed Salvatore Pollasto?
00:08:48Son of a municipal cleaning officer, second of three brothers, clear, sunny, rigorous, respectable,
00:08:55Salvatore Pollasto was far from any criminal entanglement.
00:08:59Great moral strength, only one invincible weakness in Salvatore's life,
00:09:04a passion that overwhelms and devours him.
00:09:07Court Rose
00:09:0818 years of shining splendor, rebellious and transgressive, dream and desire of every man who has touched the age of
00:09:15wish,
00:09:16Rosa has a quirk and a vice: she obsessively chews ice.
00:09:21It is on her, on Rosa della Corte, that the investigators' suspicions immediately focus.
00:09:26Salvatore spent his last day on ordinary leave with Rosa.
00:09:31It was with Rosa, his girlfriend whom he loved with a burning and jealous passion, that Salvatore had spent his last days.
00:09:38hours.
00:09:39At the end of a highly circumstantial trial, the Assize Court of Naples
00:09:43Rosa della Corte is sentenced to 25 years in prison for voluntary homicide,
00:09:48sentence reduced to 18 years by the Court of Appeal.
00:09:57Rosa, she had a quirk and a vice.
00:10:02He chewed ice, peeled it off refrigerators, peeled it off freezers,
00:10:08he crunched it between his teeth with a frequency that bordered on obsession.
00:10:14Rosa, what was the origin of your need to eat ice?
00:10:21I don't know, for me it's always been like an antidepressant, I mean I eat it like that, it makes me feel good.
00:10:30Rosa, you are 21 years old today.
00:10:33Yes.
00:10:33At the time of the facts she was only 18, she is the first of 5 children, with a mother and a father
00:10:40very young, right?
00:10:41Apparently, they were somewhat engaged in fighting each other in a relationship that was tearing them apart without ever dividing them.
00:10:49Rosa, what was your relationship with your parents?
00:10:52A very normal, very simple relationship, which I still have today.
00:10:58I lost my father on February 11th last year, he had cancer at the age of 44.
00:11:09Nothing, for me I never considered them just parents, but also friends.
00:11:16They were very young.
00:11:17Yes.
00:11:19But Rosa, I have to remind you that the trial documents talk about certain of your behaviors,
00:11:24so a little impetuous, a little impetuous in the family.
00:11:27But in general, what were the reasons for the conflict between you and your parents?
00:11:31Look, with her mother, for example, why did Rosa argue?
00:11:37Well, for trivial things in the end.
00:11:39Didn't mum want her to be more active at home, more present?
00:11:43Okay yes, sometimes too, for this reason too yes.
00:11:46But did she ever come to blows with her parents?
00:11:50No, not with my parents, yes it happened.
00:11:53Once with my mother, when she wanted to slap me, I stopped her.
00:12:01But nothing more.
00:12:03No, because the problem is this, that she knows, that certain of her behaviors in the family,
00:12:08also emerged through telephone and environmental interceptions,
00:12:12they then weighed in the judgment,
00:12:14as they contributed to creating the image of her as an aggressive person,
00:12:20a violent person.
00:12:22Do you recognize yourself in this assessment?
00:12:26No, because the wiretaps were read in the courtroom,
00:12:36but in the way that was most convenient for the people who read them.
00:12:42Looking back at his adolescence,
00:12:45However, one gets the impression that she grew up a bit like a wild filly,
00:12:51that is, without codes, without rules, without controls, without strong guidance.
00:12:58But there was someone she could turn to,
00:13:01that she could refer to, in short, someone to whom,
00:13:04who she respected, who she could ask for advice?
00:13:09Yes, sometimes, okay, my uncle, then after meeting Salvatore,
00:13:16so he was my strong point.
00:13:21Rosa, you were studying at the Hotel Management Institute, right?
00:13:23Yes.
00:13:25But what were his aspirations, in short, his plans for the future?
00:13:29What did you want to do when you grew up?
00:13:32Hotel manager.
00:13:34Hotel manager?
00:13:34Yes.
00:13:35We didn't talk about aspirations in the fashion world, though.
00:13:39No, I mean, it wasn't for me.
00:13:42Rosa, in Casandrino, which is a territorial appendix of Naples,
00:13:48She reigned supreme with her dazzling beauty.
00:13:51She was considered the Manuela Arcuri of the area.
00:13:56What use did she make of her beauty?
00:13:59They told me I was beautiful, but I didn't use it for any purpose.
00:14:05Here, Rosa, she was a very sought-after girl, in short, she was the object of desire of the male side of Casandrino.
00:14:13In short, all the boys from Casandrino, let's say, courted her.
00:14:19But at just 16 years old she makes her choice.
00:14:21She got engaged to Salvatore Pollasto, who at the time was, how real is that?
00:14:2520 years.
00:14:2620 years.
00:14:27What struck you about Salvatore?
00:14:29What made her choose him over the gang of suitors chasing her?
00:14:34His way of doing things, free, calm.
00:14:40Then a very clean person.
00:14:43He liked to study and work, unlike many other people.
00:14:49That's what I liked about him.
00:14:55She also said, this is evident from the trial documents, one of the things that struck me about him
00:15:01It's that he didn't try anything with me, while everyone else was trying.
00:15:06It is true?
00:15:07Yes.
00:15:08Does it match?
00:15:09Certain.
00:15:11Listen Rosa, but precisely, another thing, in short, when she got together with Salvatore,
00:15:17engaged to Salvatore, 16 years old, the word engaged already seems big to me, in short,
00:15:22she considered him one of the boys she liked to play with a little, go, measure
00:15:26her charm, or was she really in love with Salvatore?
00:15:30Well, initially not in love, then later, getting to know him better, yes, I mean we fell in love.
00:15:40In this story, precisely, in the outline of this story, jealousy was central.
00:15:46by Salvatore.
00:15:49Salvatore was madly in love with her, he was also very jealous of her, is that right?
00:15:55Yes.
00:15:55Listen, Rosa, how did Salvatore's jealousy manifest itself?
00:15:59So, how did he express it?
00:16:01Do you do this, or don't you do this?
00:16:02That is, what did he demand of her?
00:16:04Nothing, that I called him every time I went out, that, I don't know, I avoided talking
00:16:14with other guys, stuff like that.
00:16:20But Salvatore's jealousy, Rosa, was populated by ghosts or was it a justified jealousy,
00:16:29justifiable?
00:16:29Well, sometimes yes, in some cases yes, it was jealousy anyway...
00:16:39I mean, they were real things he saw, so he got jealous.
00:16:44But sometimes he also got jealous of things that didn't exist.
00:16:54She did, however, make Salvatore a few croissants, Rosa.
00:16:57Well, I've dated other people, yes.
00:17:02Rosa, assuming that everyone is free to do what they want.
00:17:07And let's also start by saying another fundamental thing: she has never commodified her body.
00:17:13And that makes the difference.
00:17:16However, at the time, people in Casandrino were talking about certain of his free, uninhibited behaviors,
00:17:24then we know that in small towns everything is known and above all everything expands.
00:17:28And the trial was talked about.
00:17:30But the question I ask you is this.
00:17:33She said she was in love with Salvatore.
00:17:36Why then did he feel the need to hang out with other boys, other men, not exactly as friends?
00:17:43It's not that I felt the need.
00:17:46It happened and I felt like doing it at that moment and I did it, that's it.
00:17:55I didn't do it to spite someone, nor to, I don't know, to feel more like a woman, to feel desired, no.
00:18:10I just did it because I felt like it, that's all.
00:18:15When I talk about wild cleaner, it's a fitting definition. Would you do it again, Rosa?
00:18:22Certain.
00:18:24Explain to me why you would do it again.
00:18:29Because I've never seen it as something ugly, dirty, like so many other people want to make it out to be.
00:18:43For me it's a very normal thing, that's why I would do it again.
00:18:48But what was she looking for in these other men, in these other boys with whom she then began these relationships,
00:18:55In short?
00:19:03Of the emotions they could give me at that moment, that was enough, nothing else.
00:19:10Did she ever wonder what these men would say about her?
00:19:15Could they say about her?
00:19:18Absolutely not.
00:19:20Did he care?
00:19:22Certain.
00:19:25But did she know how they were talking about her?
00:19:28Yes.
00:19:30Listen, Rosa, but if you were tied to Salvatore, did you feel the need to frequent other men, even in terms of intimacy,
00:19:38in short, betraying Salvatore is a sign that this boy wasn't enough for her, that he didn't fill her life.
00:19:43So why didn't she leave him?
00:19:46I didn't leave him because for me he represented true love, unlike the other people I hung out with.
00:19:54I mean, it was love, I felt love for him as he did for me.
00:20:01It was a point of strength, of security, I felt safe.
00:20:08Listen, Rosa, but Salvatore knew about these infidelities of yours, in short, about certain liberties that you sometimes allowed yourself with
00:20:15other guys?
00:20:16So, did she tell him?
00:20:19Certain.
00:20:20And he, excuse me, how did he accept it?
00:20:24He reacted badly at first.
00:20:26In fact, well, we argued for a few days, then his jealousy increased.
00:20:33But we didn't leave each other.
00:20:37That is, just to have it, well, deep down, she even accepted that the torture of sincerity was inflicted on her, let's take it
00:20:47clear.
00:20:48Yes.
00:20:50Rosa, you, as it turns out, also had a homosexual relationship with a young woman, which was also a
00:21:05quite intense relationship.
00:21:06He doesn't want to talk to us.
00:21:09Yes.
00:21:12I met this girl in a gay club.
00:21:20Well, I started dating her during the time I wasn't dating Salvatore.
00:21:30And when I saw her, I felt drawn to her.
00:21:35Anyway, I wanted to see if I was really feeling this thing.
00:21:41In fact, after having had intercourse with her, I felt that I still had it inside me, I felt this thing inside me.
00:21:55I needed to be with a woman.
00:22:00Do you feel straight or bisexual?
00:22:07I feel bisexual.
00:22:09Did Salvatore know about this relationship?
00:22:11Yes.
00:22:12How did he deal with this revelation, which not all men are able to accept?
00:22:20Initially I told him I was a little annoyed.
00:22:23Then after he accepted it too, he also saw it as, I don't know, a way to...
00:22:31He almost saw it as an exciting thing.
00:22:35But in the end he also showed jealousy towards women.
00:22:42When he watched me see, look at some women, he told me not to look at them because it bothered him.
00:22:52Listen, Rosa, based on what Salvatore's family and friends have reported,
00:22:58that everyone said that Salvatore was crazy about her, that he was totally overwhelmed by this passion,
00:23:05from a delirium of passion, but they also say that Salvatore was ultimately consumed,
00:23:11let's say in a certain sense, in the torment of jealousy.
00:23:14And this torment also led to frequent arguments between you, right Rosa?
00:23:18There were a few scenes between her and Salvatore.
00:23:21Yes.
00:23:21At first he accepted, but well...
00:23:23Here you are.
00:23:24How did you deal with Salvatore's jealousy?
00:23:27So, did he accept it as a natural part of your relationship?
00:23:33Yes, I accepted it as a natural part of our relationship, yes.
00:23:37Yes, also because it was a well-founded jealousy.
00:23:42Is this what you tell me?
00:23:44Because, on the contrary, the testimonies on record reveal something quite different.
00:23:48That is, it emerges that she could not tolerate Salvatore's jealousy.
00:23:52Absolutely not.
00:23:55No.
00:23:59Do you know that witnesses are supposed to tell the truth?
00:24:01Do they have to tell the truth?
00:24:02They should.
00:24:04They should, though, she says.
00:24:06Listen, Rosa, were your parents, both your parents and Salvatore's parents, aware of your story?
00:24:14Yes.
00:24:16And will Salvatore like his parents?
00:24:18Certain.
00:24:19Did Salvatore frequent your house?
00:24:21Yes, often.
00:24:23And Salvatore's parents?
00:24:27They didn't agree with him on this story.
00:24:34They didn't want us to be together because of the rumors going around town.
00:24:39The local gossip about his reputation, in short, if he doesn't pass it.
00:24:48Is this it?
00:24:48Yes.
00:24:50But how did Salvatore deal with his parents' hostility?
00:24:54How did he react?
00:24:56He told me not to give it any importance.
00:25:04Did he defend her?
00:25:05That's what I wanted to say.
00:25:06Sure, yes.
00:25:08It turns out that Salvatore defended her by claiming that it was all slander due to her beauty.
00:25:16In short, this is what it turns out.
00:25:18Even though he knew many things were true?
00:25:23Well, this makes even greater both the love he had for her and also the moral figure of
00:25:33this boy, in short, who ultimately also faced judgment, hostility, ostracism, even from his family, in short.
00:25:43Listen, Rosa, and Salvatore's friends, how did they see your relationship?
00:25:50I mean, from what they showed, he was fine with it, no one ever said anything to us.
00:26:00Then, at least in front of me, no one ever said anything.
00:26:05In front of her?
00:26:06What does she say?
00:26:07Because then, after all, there are people behind whom they then tell other stories.
00:26:12Because her friends were hostile to your relationship, they even tried to dissuade her, to distance Salvatore from her.
00:26:19This turns out, I always refer to the trial documents, because they said that she was not the right girl for
00:26:24him, because they saw him suffer, because they knew certain things, let's say, certain stories about him.
00:26:30And at a certain point it even turns out that Salvatore, precisely to avoid suffering, well, even a little bit of hostility
00:26:36of friends, a little also the torment of their disapproval, he even isolated himself quite a bit from his friends.
00:26:52Salvatore chooses a military career as his professional project.
00:26:58When the tragedy occurred, in fact, Salvatore was in Trento, he was in Trento, distance in the Alpine corps, like that?
00:27:05Yes.
00:27:07And she, in fact, we said that she went to visit him, well, Salvatore's commitment in the Alpine troops forced him to do so.
00:27:13far from her, right?
00:27:15And this fueled Salvatore's jealousy?
00:27:18Yes, even more.
00:27:21Because she, moreover, was there, he was there, she was here, in short, so what was happening? What was Salvatore doing?
00:27:28He kept calling me, asking me to call him if I had to go out, to give him a call and then he would
00:27:43called him.
00:27:44He called me all the time.
00:27:46However, that Salvatore in Trento lived in the torment of passion and jealousy, well, after the tragedy, they really did
00:27:53His fellow soldiers testified that he even gave up his free time to stay glued to his cell phone.
00:28:00to talk to her.
00:28:01Yes.
00:28:01Is that so, Rosa?
00:28:02Yes.
00:28:03The tragedy occurred on the night of April 4, 2003. On April 2, Salvatore returned from Trento to
00:28:12Casandrino for a short leave.
00:28:14Now, Rosa, let's reconstruct together the last day with Salvatore. I mean, what memories do you have of it? How did you spend it?
00:28:24this day together?
00:28:29He came to visit me at home in the morning, he came to say hello to my mother, we went out, we went around the shops a bit.
00:28:41He's buying me a ring.
00:28:44Then we went...
00:28:47In Posillipo?
00:28:49Yes.
00:28:50Do you remember it?
00:28:52Certain.
00:28:53Why did you go to Posillipo?
00:28:54To stay a while, yes, to admire the view. We were having a great time.
00:29:03Then?
00:29:06Then...
00:29:08We decided to go out for pizza.
00:29:13I saw that there were too many people. He told me that...
00:29:17We had to go somewhere else because there...
00:29:20He didn't want... He didn't want us to go there to eat pizza because too many men have it.
00:29:27He didn't want to.
00:29:29It would have bothered me to think that someone might be watching me.
00:29:35Then we went to another pizzeria.
00:29:40We got pizza to drink and he started telling me about Luciano, a boy who had courted me in the past.
00:29:53because he kept courting me, sending me messages, text messages.
00:30:00And so, suddenly, he started talking about Luciano, about the fact that he believed that there was something between
00:30:10the two of us.
00:30:11Something I'd never told him.
00:30:16We finished eating, left, and he walked me home.
00:30:26But wait a moment, why practically...
00:30:28Here, two guys who are together, they are in love and he basically had to go back to Trento, in short,
00:30:37so a few days, brief moments of life between you, he takes her home.
00:30:45Why?
00:30:46But I know, he was very annoyed by the thought of Luciano and I don't even know why.
00:30:52Let's just say, he had some reason to be annoyed, after all.
00:30:57But then he takes her home, so to go back to that evening, he takes her home because it was
00:31:05nervous.
00:31:06Luciano was nervous about this too. So what?
00:31:10He takes me home, we say goodbye, I was getting out of the car, he took me by the arm and said
00:31:19“Come on, let’s go for a walk, let’s go for another walk, then I’ll take you back later.”
00:31:26We stopped for a bit to spend some time together.
00:31:30Where?
00:31:32Still near Casandrino, in a little street where all the couples hang out.
00:31:39We start kissing, touching each other.
00:31:50Then while we were having a very intimate moment, he brings up this Luciano story again.
00:32:06Suddenly he pushed me away, walked away from me and started talking about Luciano again, about how he was convinced that
00:32:17there was something else I hadn't told him.
00:32:24I tried to ask him for explanations for his behavior, but he didn't say anything, like an obsession he continued to talk about Luciano,
00:32:34tell me, “No, I’m sure you’re seeing him, that you’re doing things behind my back, things like that.”
00:32:41So, since he didn't want to listen to reason, at that moment I got out of the car, I remained silent, he continued to talk about
00:32:57him, I told him "I'm leaving".
00:33:01I opened the door and closed it, got out of the car, closed it and was about to leave.
00:33:08Then I took two steps forward, then I went back, tried to get into the car and he locked me out.
00:33:18And he laughed, he laughed at me, he said to me, he kept laughing, he said "no, as if he wanted to tell me I don't believe you."
00:33:37Then I told him to go to hell and left.
00:33:43Listen, Rosa, when after the argument with Salvatore, you slam the car door and drive away into the night, you
00:33:51do you remember what time it was?
00:33:54No, not at that moment, because I only looked at the time when I returned home.
00:34:03What happens then?
00:34:07I get off the street, walk towards my house and see a car coming in front of me.
00:34:18You see, it was the car of a security guard, a night watchman.
00:34:23And he stopped there and said to me, "What are you doing on the street at this hour?"
00:34:30I said something like that to him and he asked me if I wanted a ride.
00:34:36Initially I told him no, then he insisted and I accepted the ride.
00:34:43As he was driving me home, he started making advances towards me.
00:34:51And since I didn't know if he was armed, I didn't know what his intentions were,
00:34:59Instead of being dropped off at my house, I had myself dropped off a little further on at my house.
00:35:07Once I got out of the car, I started walking towards home and see that this man continued to follow me anyway.
00:35:17He followed me, he followed me from afar.
00:35:21I told him to go away and I was screaming though.
00:35:28I was screaming at that moment, screaming, telling him to go away, that I didn't want him to follow me.
00:35:34I was starting to get scared.
00:35:36Once I got home, I did the things I usually do.
00:35:43I turned on the TV and ate some ice.
00:35:49Then afterward my clothes get wet.
00:35:54I continued watching TV for a bit, then I tried calling Salvatore on the phone.
00:36:01When she actually comes home, is there anyone else who sees her?
00:36:07Yes, there was the park keeper where I lived,
00:36:12which divides the bathroom window from throwing down a paper.
00:36:19He called me back, I apologized,
00:36:23because I knew he would have to sweep the park tomorrow, so...
00:36:30Was it a package she threw away?
00:36:32It was a plastic card anyway, so, I just threw it down like that.
00:36:38Do you remember what time it was when this happened?
00:36:41I insist a little on the timetables.
00:36:44I arrived home at 1.30am, I remember this very well,
00:36:47because when there is a clock at the entrance of the house,
00:36:54As soon as I walked in I looked at it and saw it was around 1.30am.
00:36:58Listen Rosa, look, during the night,
00:37:02she told me she made some phone calls, you know...
00:37:08I tried to call Salvatore, but his cell phone didn't have reception.
00:37:19What time was it? Do you remember when Salvatore called?
00:37:25It was night.
00:37:28Well, the records show it was 5am, I don't remember that.
00:37:32Listen, why do you feel the need to call Salvatore at 5 in the morning?
00:37:37that is, at a somewhat unusual time?
00:37:39Well, because since we left it like that anyway,
00:37:44As had happened several times before, I wanted to call him to get an explanation.
00:37:50To make peace, maybe, perhaps.
00:37:52Also, yes.
00:37:53No, and you know, Rosa, that this phone call of yours at 5 in the morning
00:37:57then on Salvatore's cell phone she had a reading that was against her,
00:38:00because in the opinion of the investigators and then of the judges,
00:38:04she would have called Salvatore to create an alibi for herself
00:38:08in order to support the theory of the argument, of the fact that she had argued with him
00:38:14and he had left him in the car and he had left him alive.
00:38:17In short, you know what the interpretation of this phone call was.
00:38:22Let's stick to phone calls, Rosa.
00:38:24Still on the subject of phone calls.
00:38:27This is precisely what emerges from the testimony of Salvatore's mother,
00:38:32and then from telephone records,
00:38:34that she at 7.15 in the morning,
00:38:37on the morning of the tragedy,
00:38:38Call Salvatore's house and talk to Salvatore's mother.
00:38:42Is that so, Rosa?
00:38:43Yes, I asked her to tell Salvatore to turn on his cell phone.
00:38:48because I needed to talk to him.
00:38:50She told me she hadn't come back that night,
00:38:54she hadn't come back that night.
00:38:57She got alarmed, that's it,
00:38:59when Salvatore's mother told her there was no news,
00:39:02How did she take it, Rosa?
00:39:04Yes, a little yes, I was alarmed,
00:39:06but I thought maybe he stayed at some friend's house.
00:39:17After a while, I don't remember if he was there to call me back or I was.
00:39:22Was it her?
00:39:23And nothing, he told me he had called his best friend Francesco,
00:39:29that he hadn't been there, he hadn't seen it,
00:39:33other friends who hadn't seen it anyway.
00:39:36Then he asked me, he asked me but what did you do last night,
00:39:40where have you been?
00:39:41And he told him more or less what we had done,
00:39:44that evening where we were and where we left off.
00:39:49And she told me she was going to send her husband out
00:39:53to see if he ever fell asleep in the car,
00:39:58if he were still around there.
00:40:02Then my mother and I decided to go down.
00:40:06We went there and I see Salvatore's uncle in a police car.
00:40:13Then I looked at everything, all the people that were there
00:40:17and the only thing he could see was Salvatore's hand near the window.
00:40:30Very white, almost yellow.
00:40:37I knew him inside and out.
00:40:39You see his car there and his hand.
00:40:44Then, let's just say I fainted for a moment.
00:40:54I found myself with the policemen who asked me who I was
00:41:02and then my mother and I went with the police to the barracks.
00:41:14This is the dramatic sequence that leads to the discovery of Salvatore's body.
00:41:35Listen, Rosa, I'd like to go back to that car for a moment.
00:41:42I would like you to describe to us, as in a still image, what the position was,
00:41:48the condition in which he left Salvatore
00:41:52when she, as she says, so irritated by Salvatore's refusal,
00:42:00for this attitude of his,
00:42:02she told her to go to hell, slammed the door and drove away.
00:42:05How was Salvatore doing?
00:42:07His pants were down and his shirt was up.
00:42:14What happens when two guys do car work?
00:42:19Yes.
00:42:20The investigations begin immediately and naturally as is usual for crimes,
00:42:26The investigators are first and foremost committed to reconstructing the last hours,
00:42:30Salvatore's movements, precisely, in the last hours of his life.
00:42:36When she is questioned, what does she tell the investigators?
00:42:42I was asked to tell everything that had happened that day,
00:42:48that is, the day before,
00:42:51to reconstruct the whole day, from morning to evening,
00:42:55until the end, until the last time I saw him.
00:43:01And I told him everything I remembered.
00:43:05So he also reconstructs what happened in the car,
00:43:08the argument that had occurred between you?
00:43:11Yes, everything.
00:43:12All.
00:43:13Here, but she also describes the conditions to the investigators,
00:43:19the position in which he had left Salvatore?
00:43:21Yes, because I was asked.
00:43:24I told him I left it like that,
00:43:26in the car, with his hands behind his neck,
00:43:31trousers down and shirt lifted a little.
00:43:35So, she told him spontaneously,
00:43:38in short, it was his spontaneous statement.
00:43:41Yes.
00:43:43Because she knows that, as we will see, Rosa,
00:43:46the fact of having left Salvatore, precisely,
00:43:50trousers down and sweatshirt up,
00:43:51It was instrumental in focusing on her
00:43:55the suspicions of those two stab wounds.
00:43:58and you understood that, right?
00:44:01Certain.
00:44:01Because Salvatore, tomorrow morning,
00:44:04it was found in exactly those conditions.
00:44:21Rosa, she was subjected to the same morning
00:44:24to long interrogations, right?
00:44:26From the very morning that Salvatore was found.
00:44:30Is that so?
00:44:32As a witness, of course.
00:44:33She is being questioned as a witness.
00:44:37Here you are.
00:44:37During these interrogations,
00:44:39what did she reveal,
00:44:41What did he tell the investigators?
00:44:44I said everything that was asked of me
00:44:46of that day
00:44:49and then the people I hung out with,
00:44:54of the people I had met,
00:44:57I told everything,
00:44:58even betrayals,
00:45:01of the betrayals I had committed against Salvatore,
00:45:05of the people I continued to hang out with,
00:45:09All.
00:45:10I told him everything about my private life, everything.
00:45:14She explains to us why she told the investigators.
00:45:19let's say details, episodes that then had nothing to do with each other
00:45:24with those two stab wounds?
00:45:26I shared this because I thought it might be helpful in some way.
00:45:32But in a way,
00:45:35telling all these, so,
00:45:38these two intimate stories,
00:45:40here, he didn't realize that he ended up drawing a portrait of himself
00:45:44what could it even have to do with those two stab wounds?
00:45:49Absolutely not, because
00:45:52for me
00:45:54There was absolutely nothing wrong with what I did.
00:45:58Because, you see Rosa, of course the investigators
00:46:00to whom she told about all these men
00:46:04who had somehow populated his very young life
00:46:08and declaring to have had more or less heated relations with them
00:46:11they were immediately summoned at this hour, obviously.
00:46:16And do you remember what they told the investigators afterwards?
00:46:20Some people told the truth
00:46:23others have lied shamelessly
00:46:27even saying that
00:46:30she had gone to bed with him
00:46:33while it wasn't true.
00:46:37Even one of the guys I knew
00:46:41precisely Luciano
00:46:44he said that
00:46:46once
00:46:48while we were making love
00:46:50I had become so violent
00:46:52that for
00:46:53to get away
00:46:55he had to punch me.
00:46:59Anyway
00:46:59these boys summoned at this hour
00:47:02they have
00:47:04declared all
00:47:05in short that she
00:47:06she was a very free girl
00:47:08very transgressive
00:47:09but precisely
00:47:10they told above all
00:47:12that she favored
00:47:14a very sex
00:47:15very aggressive
00:47:16very violent
00:47:18in short, a sex
00:47:19let's say
00:47:20seasoned at certain times
00:47:22with certain behaviors
00:47:24so a little bit anomalous
00:47:26such as scratches, bites
00:47:27and stuff like that
00:47:29Here you are
00:47:29This
00:47:30logically
00:47:31contributed
00:47:32to draw of her
00:47:34a portrait
00:47:35that more and more
00:47:37more and more
00:47:38in the eyes of the investigators
00:47:40he was getting closer
00:47:42Like this
00:47:43to the hypothesis
00:47:44that that knife
00:47:46those two stab wounds
00:47:47in Salvatore's body
00:47:51could have them
00:47:52precisely she inflicted
00:47:53precisely because
00:47:54they described it
00:47:55like a person
00:47:56very violent
00:47:57In short
00:47:57And
00:47:58listen to Rosa
00:47:59one more thing
00:48:01which is a detail
00:48:02important
00:48:02but she
00:48:04he loved to tie
00:48:05the men
00:48:06when he had sex
00:48:07with them?
00:48:08Absolutely not
00:48:09but
00:48:10actually Rosa
00:48:11studying the documents
00:48:13of the process
00:48:13from none
00:48:14testimony
00:48:16of men
00:48:16with which she
00:48:17had relations
00:48:18it turned out that she
00:48:18he loved to tie
00:48:19the men
00:48:20it's a predilection
00:48:22this one that
00:48:23curiously
00:48:24during the investigation
00:48:25and then of judgment
00:48:26it was attributed to her
00:48:28and that he had
00:48:29a weight of its own
00:48:30and let's see why
00:48:33Why
00:48:33from the moment
00:48:34that on the wrists
00:48:35by Salvatore
00:48:35they were found
00:48:37of the signs
00:48:37bluish
00:48:38due
00:48:39according to the coroner
00:48:40to a tie
00:48:42made to Salvatore
00:48:43in life
00:48:44the accusation
00:48:46what he hypothesized
00:48:47he hypothesized
00:48:48that she
00:48:48for an erotic game
00:48:50the night of the tragedy
00:48:51in the car
00:48:53had blocked
00:48:54Salvatore's wrists
00:48:55making use of
00:48:55of handcuffs
00:48:56so that
00:48:58when she
00:48:59in a rush
00:49:00of violence
00:49:01and of
00:49:02of anger
00:49:03of fury
00:49:04for this argument
00:49:04with Salvatore
00:49:05had vibrated
00:49:07those two stab wounds
00:49:08on Salvatore's dome
00:49:10he had not been able to
00:49:11defend
00:49:12because in fact
00:49:13he was immobilized
00:49:14this
00:49:15as you know
00:49:16it's the thesis
00:49:17of the prosecution
00:49:18Here you are
00:49:20the question
00:49:21that I
00:49:21I address them again
00:49:22but
00:49:23Rose
00:49:24she that night
00:49:25for an erotic game
00:49:26had tied
00:49:27Savior
00:49:27No
00:49:29but anyway Rosa
00:49:30despite
00:49:30she has
00:49:31protested
00:49:32from now on
00:49:33his strangeness
00:49:34to the crime
00:49:35despite
00:49:36his
00:49:36despair
00:49:37for the disappearance
00:49:38by Salvatore
00:49:39it is anyway
00:49:40about her
00:49:41that concentrate
00:49:41the investigations
00:49:42and they concentrate
00:49:45above all
00:49:46maximally
00:49:47for that detail
00:49:48that she herself
00:49:49he provided
00:49:50to the investigators
00:49:51that is, practically
00:49:52to have left
00:49:53Savior
00:49:54with his pants down
00:49:56and the sweatshirt
00:49:56raised
00:49:57the investigators
00:49:59in the end they said
00:49:59how is it possible
00:50:01that this boy
00:50:02In short
00:50:03remained
00:50:04for a time
00:50:05indefinite
00:50:06Like this
00:50:07stopped
00:50:08in the car
00:50:09Here you are
00:50:09if it had arrived
00:50:11someone
00:50:11that it wasn't
00:50:13Pink obviously
00:50:13him
00:50:14it would have been
00:50:15recomposed
00:50:16and then
00:50:17let's say
00:50:18would have reacted
00:50:19In short
00:50:19he would have done something
00:50:20In short
00:50:21this is the point
00:50:22Rose
00:50:22Anyway
00:50:23Rose
00:50:24for the murder of Salvatore
00:50:25she will come formally
00:50:27under investigation
00:50:27about two months
00:50:29after the tragedy
00:50:29we believe
00:50:30that the process
00:50:32at your expense
00:50:33of the girl
00:50:34it was
00:50:35marked
00:50:36from a series
00:50:37of violations
00:50:38procedural
00:50:39in particular
00:50:41we supported
00:50:42the unusability
00:50:43of the statements
00:50:44yields in the course
00:50:46of the investigation
00:50:47from the defendant
00:50:48we believe
00:50:50that the girl
00:50:51it had to be
00:50:52questioned
00:50:53in the presence
00:50:54of the defenders
00:50:55where it came
00:50:56vice versa questioned
00:50:57as a person
00:50:57informed about the facts
00:50:58and we believe it
00:51:00on the basis
00:51:01of the assumption
00:51:02that since the first
00:51:03moment
00:51:04the investigations
00:51:06they oriented themselves
00:51:07right on the girl
00:51:09in the sense
00:51:09that the investigators
00:51:11they thought
00:51:12the court's
00:51:13involved
00:51:14since the first
00:51:15moment
00:51:15in fact
00:51:16murderer
00:51:17and it is proof of it
00:51:19the circumstance
00:51:20that in the morning
00:51:22in which he came
00:51:23found
00:51:23the corpse
00:51:25the verbalizers
00:51:26they operated
00:51:27a search
00:51:28at home
00:51:29of the court
00:51:31and I will provide
00:51:32to seize
00:51:33the clothes
00:51:34that she wore
00:51:36on the day of the fact
00:51:37and then the previous evening
00:51:38this in the end
00:51:39to verify
00:51:40the presence
00:51:41of traces of blood
00:51:42on his clothes
00:51:43all this
00:51:45should have
00:51:45to behave
00:51:46an inscription
00:51:48in the register
00:51:49of the suspects
00:51:49and then
00:51:50naturally
00:51:51the possibility
00:51:51of defensive assistance
00:51:55of the court
00:51:56if it had been
00:51:57warned
00:51:58and if he had taken
00:51:59as it should have been
00:52:00the quality
00:52:00of investigated
00:52:01could for example
00:52:02to abolish itself
00:52:02of the faculty
00:52:03not to answer
00:52:04Rose
00:52:05beyond
00:52:06long interrogations
00:52:07to which she comes
00:52:07subjected
00:52:08the investigators
00:52:09they suppress them
00:52:10the clothes
00:52:10that she had
00:52:11worn
00:52:11that evening
00:52:13to see
00:52:14if there were any
00:52:15blood stains
00:52:15on those clothes
00:52:18two stab wounds
00:52:19In short
00:52:21but she
00:52:22these clothes
00:52:22he had put them there
00:52:24in the bathroom
00:52:25and he had put them
00:52:26in the bathroom
00:52:27in bleach
00:52:29How come
00:52:29he had put them there
00:52:30in the bathroom
00:52:30in bleach
00:52:31she?
00:52:32I the t-shirt
00:52:33I had put
00:52:33in the bathroom
00:52:34in bleach
00:52:35because anyway
00:52:35it was almost white
00:52:37a little bleach
00:52:39I always put it
00:52:40on clothes
00:52:41those clear ones
00:52:42that is, white things
00:52:44blue
00:52:44clear
00:52:45Then
00:52:46leave water
00:52:47After
00:52:48wash the trousers
00:52:49it seems to me that they
00:52:50who found it
00:52:51still in bleach
00:52:52when they arrived
00:52:53no because
00:52:54a speech
00:52:54In short
00:52:55Always
00:52:56we have to go in
00:52:57always in logic
00:52:58of the investigators
00:52:58in logic
00:53:00of the investigators
00:53:00what was it?
00:53:01Court Rose
00:53:03he had these clothes
00:53:04bloodstained
00:53:05and he put them
00:53:07in bleach
00:53:08precisely
00:53:08to delete
00:53:09the tracks
00:53:10but
00:53:10it must be said Rosa
00:53:11right away
00:53:11that on his clothes
00:53:13analyzed
00:53:13Anyway
00:53:13they were not found
00:53:14traces of blood
00:53:16but there's more
00:53:17Here you are
00:53:18there is the night watchman
00:53:19who met her
00:53:21that night
00:53:22and he gave it
00:53:23the passage
00:53:24of the night watchman
00:53:24in which she
00:53:24he spoke to us
00:53:27interrogated
00:53:27Then
00:53:27he said that
00:53:29In short
00:53:29he didn't notice
00:53:30no blood stains
00:53:31on his clothes
00:53:33then there is also
00:53:33one more thing
00:53:34to say that
00:53:35the coroner
00:53:37who performed
00:53:38the autopsy on the body
00:53:39by Salvatore
00:53:40he declared
00:53:41that that guy
00:53:42of stab wounds
00:53:43causes
00:53:44blood spatters
00:53:46gushing
00:53:47that is, practically
00:53:47that splashes
00:53:48upward
00:53:49Therefore
00:53:49who inflicted
00:53:50those two stab wounds
00:53:51it should have been
00:53:52to stain with blood
00:53:53this in short
00:53:54out of respect
00:53:55of the truth
00:53:56than she
00:53:57he states
00:53:58let's go back to the night
00:53:59from the
00:53:59let's say
00:54:00of the tragedy
00:54:01she told
00:54:02of this meeting
00:54:03with the night watchman
00:54:05the police
00:54:06he was on the trail
00:54:06the night watchman
00:54:07it wasn't difficult
00:54:08the night watchman
00:54:09who was in service
00:54:10in the area
00:54:11and this vigilante
00:54:12in part
00:54:13he denies it
00:54:15where he denies it
00:54:16she said
00:54:17of having met her
00:54:18In short
00:54:19before 1.30
00:54:20In short
00:54:20in the sense that
00:54:21at 1.30
00:54:21she had returned home
00:54:23the night watchman
00:54:24he said
00:54:25one more thing
00:54:25Instead
00:54:26he said
00:54:26that it wasn't
00:54:271.30
00:54:28which was 2.30am
00:54:29in the morning
00:54:302.30
00:54:302.40
00:54:31Here you are
00:54:32this is the point
00:54:33Rose
00:54:33she was wrong
00:54:34or he was wrong
00:54:35the night watchman
00:54:36he was wrong
00:54:37the night watchman
00:54:38because I'm sure
00:54:39Of
00:54:40I mean I looked
00:54:41the time
00:54:42that evening
00:54:43I'm sure
00:54:45That
00:54:45it was 1.30am
00:54:48it must be said
00:54:49free
00:54:49to the procedural truth
00:54:50That
00:54:51there are others
00:54:52two people
00:54:53who testified
00:54:54of having seen her
00:54:55in the dark
00:54:56by Casandrino
00:54:57not around
00:54:58at 1.30
00:54:59like her
00:54:59he supported
00:55:01but around
00:55:02at 3 am
00:55:03and these people
00:55:04I am
00:55:05the driver
00:55:05of a company
00:55:06transport
00:55:07waste
00:55:08and the guardian
00:55:09night
00:55:11of his
00:55:11district
00:55:12I remember very well
00:55:15of not having met
00:55:16Nobody
00:55:16on the street
00:55:18while I was walking home
00:55:20beyond the night watchman
00:55:21Yes
00:55:24and then
00:55:26the guardian
00:55:27of the park
00:55:29I remember
00:55:29who saw me
00:55:31Indeed
00:55:32I said it
00:55:33to the investigators
00:55:34that anyway
00:55:34he could have
00:55:35say
00:55:36the time
00:55:36in which it was
00:55:37the time
00:55:38where I was
00:55:40I was at home
00:55:40because he had seen me
00:55:42from the window
00:55:44Indeed
00:55:44he initially
00:55:45he said that
00:55:46he had seen me
00:55:47around 2
00:55:48the 2 somethings
00:55:50she
00:55:51at the window
00:55:53They
00:55:54the investigators
00:55:56they denied
00:55:57saying that
00:55:58maybe he had forgotten
00:56:00Of
00:56:00since a few days
00:56:01Before
00:56:01there was
00:56:02daylight saving time
00:56:03maybe he had forgotten
00:56:05Of
00:56:06Of
00:56:07move
00:56:08the time
00:56:09to regulate
00:56:10the clock
00:56:11on daylight saving time
00:56:11Anyway
00:56:13Rose
00:56:15we have to
00:56:16let's say
00:56:17focus
00:56:18this point
00:56:18she knows it
00:56:19he understood it
00:56:20why the judges
00:56:21they gave
00:56:21so much importance
00:56:22to the fact
00:56:23that the witnesses
00:56:24they declared
00:56:25of having seen her
00:56:26on the street
00:56:27the night of the tragedy
00:56:29naturally
00:56:29not at 1.30
00:56:31as she says
00:56:32but around
00:56:33at 3 in the morning
00:56:33Why
00:56:35the coroner
00:56:36who performed
00:56:37the autopsy
00:56:38on Salvatore's body
00:56:39has established
00:56:39what a Salvatore
00:56:40he was killed
00:56:42After
00:56:422 in the morning
00:56:43in essence
00:56:45the investigators
00:56:45they said
00:56:46Rosa did it
00:56:47this reasoning
00:56:47sooner rather than later
00:56:48I say
00:56:48of having returned home
00:56:49the further away I get from myself
00:56:50the suspicion
00:56:51to be
00:56:52the murderer
00:56:53by Salvatore
00:56:54how does he respond
00:56:55Rose?
00:56:57which is absolutely not
00:56:59True
00:56:59Why
00:57:00I couldn't know
00:57:02at what time
00:57:03they would have established
00:57:05the experts
00:57:05the time
00:57:06of death
00:57:07the judges
00:57:08in presence
00:57:09of a statement
00:57:11of the expert
00:57:11which represented
00:57:13the impossibility
00:57:14of identification
00:57:15of the precise time
00:57:16of death
00:57:17they thought
00:57:19to be able to consider
00:57:21Anyway
00:57:21not incompatible
00:57:23the investigations
00:57:24scientific
00:57:25carried out
00:57:26with the statements
00:57:27made by witnesses
00:57:28actually
00:57:30Instead
00:57:30the expert
00:57:31had indicated
00:57:32this time
00:57:33between 3.30am
00:57:34and then
00:57:35that was it
00:57:36the margin
00:57:37of uncertainty
00:57:38but surely
00:57:39at 3.00
00:57:39the court's
00:57:40he was at home
00:57:41and then
00:57:41you can't
00:57:42to be an executor
00:57:44of this murder
00:57:44Rose
00:57:45one more thing
00:57:46after the tragedy
00:57:47her in private life
00:57:49how did it work out?
00:57:50it closed
00:57:51at home
00:57:52he lived
00:57:52in the rigor of mourning
00:57:53In short
00:57:53how did it work out?
00:57:55mourning
00:57:56I brought it inside
00:57:57but
00:57:59I continued
00:58:00to have
00:58:02to make my life
00:58:04continued
00:58:04to have
00:58:05life
00:58:05that I had
00:58:06everyday
00:58:07and this
00:58:08thanks also
00:58:09to help
00:58:09of my family members
00:58:10of my uncles
00:58:11of my relatives
00:58:12you know
00:58:13Rose
00:58:13she was coming
00:58:14subjected
00:58:16to interrogations
00:58:17Enough
00:58:18Like this
00:58:19pressing
00:58:20he didn't imagine
00:58:21to be
00:58:21in the crosshairs
00:58:22of the investigators?
00:58:24No
00:58:24not this one
00:58:25he didn't imagine
00:58:25so to be
00:58:26strictly controlled?
00:58:28No
00:58:28and that therefore
00:58:29it would have been
00:58:29perhaps appropriate
00:58:32maintain
00:58:32a conduct
00:58:33more discreet
00:58:35measured
00:58:36In short
00:58:36although
00:58:38if I had known
00:58:39I wouldn't have behaved
00:58:42otherwise
00:58:43Why
00:58:44for me
00:58:45there was nothing wrong
00:58:47in what I was doing
00:58:48what was he doing?
00:58:50I hung out with other people
00:58:52I had intimate relationships
00:58:53with other people
00:58:54and in fact
00:58:56right from the wiretaps
00:58:57it just emerged
00:58:58this in short
00:58:59that she
00:59:00had woven
00:59:01a series of reports
00:59:02with more boys
00:59:04with more boys
00:59:06even at the same time
00:59:07In short
00:59:07and then
00:59:09she knows it
00:59:10what was it
00:59:11the deduction
00:59:12of the investigators?
00:59:14That
00:59:16I behaved
00:59:17in this way
00:59:18Why
00:59:20I didn't care
00:59:22nothing of
00:59:22by Salvatore
00:59:25but
00:59:26it's absolutely not
00:59:27True
00:59:27listen to Rosa
00:59:28as we said
00:59:29Salvatore was killed
00:59:30with two stab wounds
00:59:31to the abdomen
00:59:31that it turns out
00:59:32her boyfriend
00:59:33he had the habit
00:59:34to bring with you
00:59:34some knives?
00:59:36No
00:59:37No
00:59:37never
00:59:39and she
00:59:40Rose
00:59:40he brought with him
00:59:41handbag
00:59:42knives
00:59:43pencil sharpeners?
00:59:44Absolutely not
00:59:46anyway he said
00:59:47that the murder weapon
00:59:48it was never found
00:59:49as I never have been
00:59:51were found
00:59:52in the wallet
00:59:53by Salvatore
00:59:54in the cell phone
00:59:55in the keys
00:59:55of the car
00:59:57the hypotheses
00:59:58it was precisely
00:59:59that she had
01:00:00taken away
01:00:01these objects
01:00:02to simulate
01:00:03a murder
01:00:05for the purpose of robbery
01:00:07that evening
01:00:08I came back home
01:00:09I didn't leave the house
01:00:11in the morning
01:00:12I was
01:00:13there
01:00:14at the police station
01:00:16they checked
01:00:17my house
01:00:18they checked me
01:00:20and they found nothing
01:00:22Therefore
01:00:23I say
01:00:24why didn't they ask themselves
01:00:26the question
01:00:28if for us it was her
01:00:30what an end
01:00:31what happened to him
01:00:33what happened to them
01:00:34these things?
01:00:34no, they asked themselves that
01:00:35the fact that the research
01:00:36have not been carried out
01:00:37right away
01:00:38on these lost objects
01:00:42however they were not found
01:00:43they thought
01:00:44that she
01:00:45he had thrown them away
01:00:46maybe in some
01:00:49cassette
01:00:50of waste
01:00:51because precisely
01:00:52returning to the conviction
01:00:54of the judges
01:00:55the reconstruction
01:00:56of the prosecution
01:00:56it was this
01:00:57suddenly
01:00:59while in the car
01:00:59you were
01:01:00in phase
01:01:01of tenderness
01:01:02of passion
01:01:03let's say
01:01:03Savior
01:01:04had had
01:01:05a regurgitation
01:01:06of anger
01:01:06out of jealousy
01:01:08and he had rejected her
01:01:09this would have caused
01:01:11in her
01:01:11a very violent one
01:01:13outburst of anger
01:01:13at that point
01:01:14she would have inflicted
01:01:15to Salvatore
01:01:16two stab wounds
01:01:17on the abdomen
01:01:18without Salvatore
01:01:19if it could be done
01:01:19defend
01:01:20could react
01:01:21Why
01:01:21for an erotic game
01:01:23she had given him
01:01:24blocked the stinks
01:01:25it is precisely hypothesized
01:01:26with the malette
01:01:27In short
01:01:27she would then have
01:01:28waited
01:01:29with lucid ferocity
01:01:30what a Salvatore
01:01:31it would go out
01:01:32in agony
01:01:32and in the meantime
01:01:33would have cancelled
01:01:35from the car
01:01:36deleted from the car
01:01:37every trace
01:01:38every footprint
01:01:40for then
01:01:41to lock up
01:01:42Savior
01:01:43by car
01:01:43taking away
01:01:44with himself
01:01:45the keys
01:01:45the cell phone
01:01:46and the wallet
01:01:47to simulate precisely
01:01:48an assault for robbery
01:01:49this was
01:01:50the prosecution's case
01:01:51with her
01:01:52how it opposes
01:01:53to this belief
01:01:54that is, since
01:01:55it was him
01:01:56to be
01:01:58Like this
01:01:58he was so jealous
01:02:00about me
01:02:00Anyway
01:02:01he was a person
01:02:02Calm
01:02:04I could have done it
01:02:05very well to leave
01:02:06Therefore
01:02:07Why
01:02:08arrive
01:02:09to do
01:02:10one thing
01:02:11of the genre
01:02:11for what reason
01:02:13to kill a person
01:02:16to whom you are so dear
01:02:17tied
01:02:19but that
01:02:20you can leave
01:02:22at any time
01:02:24if
01:02:24if you don't feel like it anymore
01:02:26to be together
01:02:29second
01:02:30the investigators
01:02:31second then
01:02:31the judges
01:02:32who have it
01:02:32condemned
01:02:33in one shot
01:02:34of anger
01:02:35because since
01:02:35it was designed
01:02:36her
01:02:37the portrait
01:02:37from a person
01:02:38very violent
01:02:39very aggressive
01:02:40precisely because
01:02:41they say that
01:02:42it's a shot
01:02:43of anger
01:02:43given that
01:02:44Savior
01:02:44he didn't have
01:02:45never brought
01:02:46with himself
01:02:46knives
01:02:47they say that
01:02:48it's about
01:02:48of a knife
01:02:50I have never
01:02:51brought knives
01:02:52with me
01:02:52Therefore
01:02:53from where
01:02:54I would have taken it
01:02:54from this knife
01:02:55For
01:02:58precisely
01:02:59For
01:03:00kill him
01:03:00I think
01:03:01that there is not
01:03:02absolutely
01:03:02the test
01:03:03that it was
01:03:03Court Rose
01:03:04to kill
01:03:04your boyfriend
01:03:05we are facing
01:03:06to a trial
01:03:07circumstantial evidence
01:03:07Surely
01:03:08a process
01:03:08difficult
01:03:09but all the elements
01:03:11essential
01:03:11of the process
01:03:12circumstantial evidence
01:03:12they were not
01:03:14found
01:03:15first of all
01:03:15there is a shortage
01:03:16total
01:03:17of the reason
01:03:17of the crime
01:03:18the so-called
01:03:19motive
01:03:19there is none
01:03:20motivation
01:03:21valid
01:03:21according to which
01:03:22Court Rose
01:03:23should have
01:03:24kill
01:03:24your boyfriend
01:03:25when he could have
01:03:26calmly
01:03:27dissolve one's own
01:03:28romantic relationship
01:03:29on the other hand
01:03:30same in sentence
01:03:31the judges
01:03:32they recognize
01:03:32of not being able to
01:03:33of not being
01:03:34managed to identify
01:03:35a reason
01:03:36of the crime
01:03:36as well as
01:03:37it wasn't
01:03:38found
01:03:38the murder weapon
01:03:39how much then
01:03:40another element
01:03:41really fundamental
01:03:42for the reconstruction
01:03:43of the story
01:03:44appears
01:03:45really difficult
01:03:46to believe
01:03:47that the same
01:03:48if it hadn't happened
01:03:49stained
01:03:50neither
01:03:51the t-shirt
01:03:52or the hands
01:03:54having been
01:03:55herself
01:03:56to strike
01:03:56according to the hypothesis
01:03:57accusatory
01:03:58the poor
01:03:59Savior
01:03:59Chicken
01:04:00and this statement
01:04:01it comes right from
01:04:02from the vigilante
01:04:03that same evening
01:04:04he had to give her
01:04:04a passage
01:04:05all the way home
01:04:05who declared
01:04:06that the same
01:04:07she was serene
01:04:08and he didn't have
01:04:09blood stains
01:04:10on your body
01:04:11or on your own
01:04:12T-shirt
01:04:12listen to Rosa
01:04:13but if things
01:04:14they didn't go
01:04:16as well as
01:04:16the accusation
01:04:17he claims
01:04:18and unfortunately has
01:04:19defined in the sentence
01:04:20condemning
01:04:21the first
01:04:2125 and then
01:04:2218 years old
01:04:22of imprisonment
01:04:23and what
01:04:24could be
01:04:25happened
01:04:26that night
01:04:26to Polonello
01:04:29I imagined it
01:04:30many times
01:04:31I tried
01:04:32Of
01:04:33to think about it
01:04:35many times
01:04:35but not
01:04:36I do not know
01:04:39because anyway
01:04:39is
01:04:40it couldn't be explained
01:04:41the fact
01:04:41that he
01:04:42did not react
01:04:44listen to Rosa
01:04:45but it's not that
01:04:45she pays
01:04:46a punishment
01:04:47to cover
01:04:48someone
01:04:49which he used
01:04:50that knife
01:04:52I would never do it
01:04:54Why
01:04:57a
01:04:58he would have taken me away
01:05:00Meaning what
01:05:02would take away from me
01:05:03freedom
01:05:04for quite a while
01:05:04of time
01:05:05and then
01:05:05a person
01:05:07that would have
01:05:07done harm
01:05:08the person
01:05:09that I loved
01:05:09so much
01:05:10the person
01:05:11in which
01:05:11I believed
01:05:12the person
01:05:14with which
01:05:15I was hoping
01:05:16to have
01:05:17a future
01:05:21but not
01:05:22I would never have
01:05:22could have done
01:05:23something like that
01:05:25Rose
01:05:26talking to her
01:05:28it is reported
01:05:30the impression
01:05:31of a person
01:05:31deeply alone
01:05:34even at the trial
01:05:36he sees in the classroom
01:05:36he hit
01:05:37the void
01:05:38of attendance
01:05:39that surrounded her
01:05:40who is left
01:05:42Neighbor
01:05:42my family
01:05:50the mother
01:05:51the brothers
01:05:53my sisters
01:05:54listen
01:05:55Mom comes to visit her
01:05:57Rose
01:05:57when he can
01:05:59Yes
01:06:01not always
01:06:02it is possible
01:06:03because anyway
01:06:10he doesn't have enough
01:06:11money
01:06:12to do
01:06:13Anyway
01:06:14this long one
01:06:15voyage
01:06:16every week
01:06:18so if you can
01:06:18comes once
01:06:19per month
01:06:20In short
01:06:21with the heart
01:06:21she is close
01:06:22this is
01:06:23Yes
01:06:24Rose
01:06:24his was
01:06:25a process
01:06:26highly circumstantial
01:06:28without a motive
01:06:29plausible
01:06:29without the weapon
01:06:31of the crime
01:06:32has ever been found
01:06:33without evidence
01:06:35that lead back
01:06:36to her
01:06:37in a certain way
01:06:40what would I say
01:06:41to the judges
01:06:42if he had them in front of him
01:06:43Now
01:06:45that I am innocent
01:06:48that I would never have
01:06:50could have done
01:06:50something like that
01:06:51the person I loved
01:06:54although
01:06:55Anyway
01:06:55I cheated on him
01:06:57Yes
01:06:57I did them
01:06:59my pranks
01:07:00OK
01:07:00but
01:07:01Not
01:07:02I would never have
01:07:03could have hurt him
01:07:07I've always said
01:07:08the truth
01:07:09I have never
01:07:09nothing hidden
01:07:12and what if
01:07:13they know many things
01:07:15it's thanks to me
01:07:16because I was
01:07:17I'm the one to tell her
01:07:22and that
01:07:26I'm sure
01:07:27that one day
01:07:30he will tell you the truth
01:07:33it's thanks to everyone
01:07:57Thank you all.
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