In carcere da cinque anni, Filippo de Cristofaro sconta una condanna all'ergastolo per l'omicidio della skipper Annarita Curina. La donna, prima stordita con il valium e poi accoltellata con la complicità della fidanzata diciassettenne Diana Beyer, era d'intralcio alla loro fuga d'amore in Polinesia. Dal carcere di Busto Arstizio, racconta a Franca Leosini la sua versione del "delitto del catamarano".
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00:00Thank you all
00:35Mr. Di Cristoforo, how much is a human life worth?
00:42But...
00:44Let's say it's worth much more than a life sentence
01:14Thank you all
01:31It's good for me at this time to feel dad's presence with his well-defined moral principles
01:54Dad is like a big oak pole stuck in a vast swamp
01:57It's very important that he's there
02:02Thus, in April 1987, from a stay in Paris, Anna Rita Curina, 31 years old, from Pesaro, wrote to her mother
02:10A degree in languages from the Sorbonne and a future full of important projects, all linked to his great passion,
02:16sea
02:19And it is the sea itself, on June 28, 1988, that returns his body entangled in the fishermen's nets to
02:26a few miles from the coast of Senigallia, weighted down and massacred with axe blows
02:59A few hours after the discovery
03:09The news of the barbaric murder is circulating around port authorities throughout the Mediterranean.
03:14Thus begins, in a wave of emotion, the hunt for the catamaran of death
03:33On July 3, Algerian authorities reported the presence of the abandoned catamaran on a beach a few kilometers from Tunis
03:41Five days later, the three were arrested in Tunisia, while trying to cross the border into Libya.
03:49Dian confesses immediately
03:51It was me, I killed her out of jealousy
03:54But once back in Italy, Dian retracts and provides a new and more disconcerting version of the facts.
04:00She and Filippo premeditated the murder to take possession of the catamaran and escape to the Pacific islands.
04:10She is the one who struck the first stab to Annarita, pushed by Filippo, who then finished the victim off
04:15machete blows
04:16I'm totally a Rambo
04:19I am a boy who ran away with a girl for love and who events have dragged further and further into
04:26below
04:27Unfortunately it's not so much a valiant Rambo thing, but more of a drama.
04:33De Cristofaro first confirms, then denies and accuses Dian of having invented everything to shift the responsibility onto him
04:40of the murder
04:42But justice believes Dian
05:02Found guilty of complicity in theft and concealment of a corpse
05:05Dian Bayer, with a final sentence, is sentenced by the Juvenile Court of Ancona to six and a half years of imprisonment
05:13to be served in a school prison in the Netherlands
05:15Filippo De Cristofaro, found guilty of aggravated premeditated murder, boat theft, and concealment of a corpse
05:23He was initially sentenced to 30 years in prison, but on appeal he was given a life sentence, a sentence which was later confirmed.
05:31from the Court of Cassation
05:33He is currently incarcerated in the Busto Arsizio prison.
05:51Thank you all
06:29Why, after five years in prison, did you decide to reconsider this tragic story?
06:36But let's say that even with a rather notable effort, I thought that the time was ripe to also give a
06:50there is a grain of truth in this image that had been created of me and this situation
06:56Which did not reflect reality at all
06:58The ordeal was obviously also caused by the memories and the pain that the rehashing of this story caused.
07:09can cause the victim's family obviously
07:14Where were you born?
07:15I was born in Bari
07:17Then you arrive in Holland, I make you take a much more logical leap
07:21Yes, after attending normal schools I went to Holland.
07:26Since I had met a girl here, a Dutch girl who was on holiday, I went to Holland
07:33And I continued studying there too.
07:35But he didn't tell me one detail: did he get married?
07:38Yes, exactly.
07:39That is, you were born in Holland and got married?
07:41Yes, I got married 19-20 years ago
07:45He got married at 19? Why? So young?
07:48But because obviously my future wife was expecting
07:52It seems to me that at a certain point this marriage begins to falter.
07:58Yes, because let's say there were no more solid assumptions
08:03You were very young
08:05We were very young
08:06The baby girl was born
08:07Exactly, so since there were no more solid assumptions
08:11It's clear that after a while this marriage started to feel a little shaky.
08:15And in short order we separated, we divorced
08:20Then she continued working?
08:22Then he opened a dance school
08:24Exact
08:25Where did he open this school?
08:27In Rotterdam
08:28So, this school is an important point because it seems to me that it is here
08:33You know Dian Weier, right?
08:38That's right, the school was opened a little far from the center of Rotterdam.
08:46And let's start, I was assisted by a friend
08:50Which was also the one who was tried together with me.
08:54And from a girl
09:21Peter?
09:21To Dian, then?
09:2315 years I think, yes
09:24And how old was she?
09:26I was about 27, 28, 28, 30, I wasn't even past 30 anyway
09:32Did Dian's parents know about your relationship?
09:36Initially no, later the mother found out about this relationship
09:43Listen, what was Dian's relationship with her parents?
09:46The real relationship was the one we felt from Dian
09:49In the sense that here there are also the testimonies of her classmates and other dance school attendees
09:58She was always very nervous, emotional, she had hysterical fits several times, she cried
10:06Why?
10:08Because the father did not agree much with the mother, he was an alcoholic
10:14And so sometimes he committed actions that went beyond the normal rationality of a person.
10:23Did Dian tell him this?
10:24Yes
10:25Do you know that Dian's truth was found to be a lie during the trial?
10:32Has it been debunked?
10:33But, this is also a fact that should be explored a little more deeply.
10:40Because we know of actual complaints made to the father instead
10:44She told me that practically Dian's parents, at least her mother, were aware of this situation.
10:49So why did you decide to flee Holland?
10:52The idea of leaving was Dian's because no one was chasing us, no one, let's say, was sending us away.
11:00away
11:00In fact, we left in February and were preparing the show that we were supposed to give in December.
11:08So we were in full working order.
11:12Well, she organized this...
11:14In that moment of infatuation with this girl I would have done anything to help her
11:19So it's clear that then the organization, the leaving, the going, the where to go
11:25I put myself there
11:26Where did you go?
11:28As soon as we left we went to Polynesia
11:31Why not for any particular reason?
11:33But it seemed like a place where we could actually escape from everything else for a little while.
11:39And where we were sure that we could be left in peace.
11:43Listen, how long did this first escape last?
11:46But not much, it lasted about three months, now I don't remember exactly
11:51But what did you do? Did you get back in time?
11:52Yes, because this, I repeat, the intention was not to wander all my life.
11:57It was just an occasion, that is, to give the opportunity to Diana's father especially
12:05To see how much harm he actually did to his daughter
12:08In fact then we returned to Milan
12:11Why Milan?
12:13But why do I have family in Milan?
12:15And also why return to Holland with, let's say, a complaint of
12:25Child abduction
12:26Child abduction, if applicable, yes
12:29For Diana, but also for Diana herself
12:31It wouldn't have given her the chance to speak in a somewhat calm manner.
12:37With parents and with father
12:38Instead, how did this reconciliation with your parents come about?
12:42They talked to us and as I remember they agreed that they would return to Holland and their lives would change.
13:17Then we returned to Holland
13:18Meet her and what happens?
13:20Did you flee immediately that same evening?
13:22Yes, that same evening
13:23How old was Diana at that point?
13:26At that point he was 16 and a half years old
13:29So you left right away?
13:31And where did you go?
13:33We went to Belgium
13:35Then from Belgium we returned to the Pacific
13:39To resume the discussion we left off perhaps
13:42Did you go alone?
13:45Yes, me and a girl
13:47Wasn't Peter with you?
13:48No, Peter joined us later in Greece
13:50We stayed in Greece for a while
13:52And then you came back from Greece?
13:54Then we returned to Italy
13:55But it's true that when you came back from Greece
13:59Did you come back with a stolen boat, so to speak?
14:02That is, yours that you left
14:04Your boat that had broken
14:06And you took over another boat, right?
14:08No, our boat does
14:10We left it there because the motor, the outboard motor, didn't work.
14:14The boat we used to return was owned by a Greek
14:18That he had given it to us in a sofrito, let's say winter
14:21So it's not true that you stole it?
14:23No, we took it but we warned him
14:25Then you left the boat, I think, in Catania
14:27In Catania, yes
14:28And did you go to Rimini?
14:30In Rimini, yes
14:30And did she work?
14:32Yeah, then I got a job in a hotel as a night porter or something like that.
14:39So how long are you staying in Rimini?
14:42Are we getting closer now?
14:43We stayed until June
14:45June 1988
14:45Exact
14:46Here, in short
14:47At this point it seems to me that this is the moment when you meet Anna Rita Corina
14:56Yes, we meet a friend of his
14:58So, how did you meet Corina?
15:00But we were practically walking near the port of Rimini
15:06And there was a person who saw us and he was a friend of the former owner of the boat that I
15:14I bought
15:15He saw us and nothing, he asked us how we were, if the boat had been functional for our travels.
15:27He basically asked us a little bit about what we had been up to lately.
15:32While we were talking to him, he told us that he asked us what plans we had.
15:36But we don't have any specific plans.
15:38Now we are practically in Miramare, not exactly in Rimini
15:42We are in Miramare
15:43Well, I'm just working and nothing, we don't have any particular plans.
15:48He himself told us that there was a person
15:51Who was planning to go to King Balearic
15:54By Catamaran
15:55We come to the meeting with Anna Rita Corina, how do you meet?
16:00So
16:01So this gentleman tells you about this possibility, about this trip?
16:05Yes, after three days we called and said we had
16:10Nothing, our decision was to leave
16:14He had already warned us that he was going to the Balearics.
16:18That is, there was nothing else at stake.
16:22I mean, it's not that we're particularly interested in that much.
16:26And nothing, he told us that the following week we would go near Rimini
16:33Now I don't remember the location anymore
16:34And he would have taken us because we would have found, we would have met Corina
16:39In fact we went, we ate
16:41And we would have talked about the trip for a moment.
16:44And there was this meeting
16:46How was the meeting?
16:48Quite friendly, normal
16:50Did you sympathize with him?
16:51Yes, he was a person to me
16:55Very nice, she was very helpful
16:59We talked about this and that
17:00Did Diana also sympathize with her husband?
17:04But let's say he had very little contact because he didn't speak Italian
17:10So I always had to try to talk through myself for a little bit.
17:17Did he also know it was his dream trip?
17:20That she considered it the trip of her life?
17:23No
17:23When was the departure scheduled?
17:26So the departure was initially scheduled for the 6th
17:31Then it was postponed because there was this friend of his.
17:36Bersani
17:37Bersani
17:40Stefano Bersani
17:42Stefano Bersani
17:53Stefano Bersani
17:55He sold them to passers-by
17:57She knows that during the trial
18:00Bersani instead insisted on this point
18:03He said that instead you put pressure on
18:06I have the obligation to remind you
18:08That you, Philip, put pressure on
18:11This reminds him
18:12She put pressure on
18:13He insisted on leaving early and not waiting
18:16Don't wait for Bersani
18:17This is what he has
18:19Yes, clearly.
18:20But it seems to me to be quite a gratuitous statement.
18:24As a person like Annelita Curina
18:29Let's say very self-aware
18:32And she also owns a boat
18:34I don't think he should have to put up with pressure.
18:38Of two people who should only help
18:42How did the departure go?
18:44Do you remember it?
18:45Yes
18:46So
18:48Curina arrived with relatives
18:52They still took on board small junk
18:55Like a plant
18:57A little oil
18:59One minute
19:00Because the boat was already all ready
19:03Then they took some pictures
19:09They made movies
19:10Did your uncle make a super eight?
19:12Yes
19:13Listen, about this little movie
19:15The trial documents show the testimony of this uncle who made this film.
19:21According to this uncle, she and Diane, while he was filming the departure
19:28You would have stepped back a bit, had you made sure that you weren't at least filmed in the face?
19:35Then you gave the impression of doing this?
19:37But I don't think so, also because they filmed us very well
19:40Does this rule it out for me?
19:43Yes, yes, but they filmed us very well
19:46Then it seems quite difficult to me to slip away on a boat
19:49It's not like there are blocks behind which I can hide
19:55The boat is that one, where I slip away
19:57You embark, you save
19:59What happens next?
20:00So, the first thing that happens is that the rudder doesn't respond to the maneuvers
20:06Under Tamarano there were two rudders
20:08And one of these did not respond to the maneuvers
20:11As it was quite dirty
20:14Encrusted with algae
20:17I got behind the wheel
20:19And Annarita dived into the water
20:22To scrape the rudder
20:24To clean it, to make it easier to handle during maneuvers
20:27So this is the first thing that happened when we left
20:30Here, and then this detail, but this circumstance has its own value
20:36Because it is linked to certain testimonies
20:39So, do we want to call them back?
20:41But of course, because we say that clearly
20:45Annarita immersed herself
20:47It influenced, let's say, Diana's behavior later on
20:50Yes, I mean, what's happening?
20:52Annarita immersed herself
20:53And once it came out
20:56Let's say, it was clearly wet
20:59This is now a topic that can create a lot of embarrassment
21:04Even towards Annarita's family
21:06Because it is very delicate
21:10And it has also created considerable disagreements in the past.
21:14With who?
21:15With the family, right in the curina
21:19I don't even know how I can, let's say so
21:22To exactly mitigate the event itself
21:27However, that is, it is undeniable
21:31It's undeniable that the curina takes off her shirt
21:35Because it was all landslides, it was wet
21:38So she just took off her shirt?
21:40Yes, she took off her shirt
21:41That is, she remained topless?
21:42Yes, exactly.
21:43But this fact, let's say, has created a disturbance
21:47I don't know, he's annoyed with Anto
21:49Why this fact is quite important
21:51We are not slipping on it
21:54But it's a junction, let's say
21:57Of course, I was...
21:57In fact, I mean, that's exactly what I wanted to say.
22:02The nurse had given a couple of instructions to Diana
22:05From a work perspective
22:06To gather some fishing lines
22:12To gather the tops
22:13Because they were messy at the stern
22:15And then he gave him work
22:20The girl told me, in Dutch
22:22It seemed to him that she wanted to push her away.
22:27I honestly didn't see the point.
22:30But look, it was a situation, actually
22:33That made her suffer enough
22:35Especially because...
22:36What was making her suffer?
22:37That the rietta was to...
22:38But also because not being able to speak the language
22:42That is, dialogue between them was very difficult.
22:46And so the misunderstanding is what I think
22:49It causes a lot of confusion
22:52Diana had done who knows what...
22:55Let's put it this way, what an idea
22:58On this situation
22:59While I was telling him, yes, but wait a minute
23:02That is, it is clear that we need to work towards this transition.
23:05That is, do what he tells you.
23:08I'm here driving
23:09In fact, she then also put her shirt back on
23:11That is, the analysis that remained so unfinished
23:14But it was a situation that Diana
23:16Well, it didn't go down very well.
23:18But she had always been so jealous, a little pathological
23:21Jealousy has always been a part of Diana
23:24This is also the result of the depositions released
23:27But also in other circumstances
23:29Had he shown such extreme jealousy?
23:32Yes, definitely.
23:33I mean, this was also, let's say
23:35A subject of debate
23:39And there are proven testimonies
23:42Of people, in this case girls
23:45That have actually been threatened
23:46Or they had a huge fight with Diana
23:49Even in Holland itself
23:51He was a little bit a little
23:54A kind of morbid jealousy
23:57For, let's say, our relationship
24:03But I didn't give it much weight, obviously.
24:06In fact I always tried to make her understand
24:09Who does not understand the language that is spoken
24:13In fact, me and Corina, I don't know
24:15We talked, we joked, we laughed
24:17But, let's say, in a completely innocent way
24:20For her who didn't understand
24:22It was obviously painful
24:23Listen, what's going on?
24:25In the meantime, how is this day going?
24:28You are waiting for a moment
24:29Diana did these little services reluctantly.
24:32What are you doing? Do you eat?
24:34Yes, nothing
24:34Then we have
24:34Diana made some lunch
24:38Then Corina also went to help
24:42Because Diana wasn't doing very well
24:47So they both put themselves
24:49I have always remained at the helm
24:51Nothing, we have
24:52They had lunch
24:53Then I had lunch when they relieved me.
24:56Nothing, that's how the day went
24:58And then?
24:58And Narita told us that he would take command of the boat in the afternoon on Tardi
25:05Because we took turns
25:07Certain
25:08We had agreed with Bersani that we would meet after two days
25:14So even the issue of insisting on this reason does not exist because after two days, therefore quite immediate as an appointment
25:24We would have called from any port where we were in Pesaro and Bersani would have reached us
25:31So given the alternation at the helm of the boat
25:37Corina told me that she would take the helm in Tardi
25:41That in the meantime he would go to rest because obviously it was necessary to take the opportunity to rest as much as possible
25:49And I would have remained at the helm
25:52He had set the alarm, I think, for three, I don't remember exactly now, three, four
25:56Because there was the meteomar that would give the weather report
26:01Listen André Cristoforo, I have to remind you of something that is in the trial documents.
26:06She will tell me if it matches
26:08Because in this reconstruction that you give me, a detail is missing.
26:12A detail that was offered by Diana
26:15That is, while you were, I mean you and Corina were at the helm
26:20At one point Diana came and offered you a coffee
26:26With this specificity however
26:30That Diana had poured a massive dose of Valium into Corina's coffee
26:36Do you know this?
26:38Yes
26:38That is, does it correspond to the truth?
26:39Yes, yes, this one actually came out after
26:42But did she know that Diana?
26:44I didn't know it also because I had very little time to talk to Diana
26:51Because let's say we have been quite busy on this navigation
26:57But excuse me
26:57Then it turned out that
26:58Why would Dian put this massive dose of Valium in Corina's coffee?
27:06What was on Diana's mind?
27:08Jealousy?
27:08Diana couldn't stand Corina anymore
27:10He thought in his own absurd but also I think twisted system of connecting ideas
27:21That a friendship would have developed between us which would have had a sequel
27:27That we say we could communicate in a slightly more in-depth way
27:33And what does Valium have to do with it? What did Valium do to her? Did it adorn her?
27:39No, in the sense that after the incident I tried to talk to Diana about what happened.
27:49He didn't even answer me right after that.
27:51Even after days he was never able to get into the specifics of the situation
27:59About Valium
27:59No, because she said something else if I may say so.
28:03A little more insidious during the process
28:05She said that this Valium had been purchased before
28:09It had been poured from the original dropper container into a non-dropper bottle
28:17To then use it at the right time with ease and in two massive
28:22This is what Diana said
28:23Yes, but
28:24Is this true?
28:25No, absolutely not.
28:26That is, first of all when they found the Valium it was still in its original packaging
28:34But I don't know, I can't understand how a disappointed woman pours Valium
28:37Instead of beating up another person
28:40Here, got it?
28:41This one here, yes, yes, clearly
28:42These are two things that don't quite go together in my mind.
28:44Of course, but as I repeat, it is very difficult to fathom the human mind.
28:50Anyway, Curino drank this coffee, she drank it, she saw her drink it
28:53Yes, but
28:55A drink
28:56And then he says he threw it into the sea because he says it was bitter
28:59But he drank very little, a sip.
29:00But just enough to make her still feel not completely well
29:05But I don't think so, because I saw her drinking, she drank a glass and then threw it away.
29:11But it's not that she went to lie down because she didn't feel that way already
29:15No, because after
29:16He was talking nonsense, let's say
29:18No, because I mean, after drinking the coffee she didn't go straight to bed.
29:24That is, she stayed there with us for a while.
29:25That is, he showed no sign of, let's say, imbalance.
29:31Afterwards, in fact, after setting the alarm he told me he was going to lie down because
29:36And she remained at the helm?
29:37What is what happened?
29:38I remained at the helm the whole time
29:40So what happened then?
29:41So now tell me how things happened.
29:44As she wants to tell me
29:49Basically Diana had gone with a couple more things
29:54And it went from, let's say, one end to the other.
29:59Because in the Camtamarano, there are two hulls
30:03There were, let's say, certain furnishings and necessary things
30:07Stowed in one hull and others in another hull
30:10So it's not like I was paying much attention on, come on
30:16I was quite focused on sailing
30:18Because I was in a stretch that, let's say, there were no constant winds
30:24So you always had to be a little careful.
30:27I just know that after a while
30:31From the starboard hull, where the hill slept
30:35And she went up, that is, she went back up, Diana came out with this bloody knife
30:40Where was she? At the helm?
30:41I was at the helm
30:42What was he doing? Screaming? Crying? Like, normal?
30:44No, he didn't even open, he didn't say anything at all
30:48He looked at me with these eyes a little like that, right?
30:53I didn't immediately understand the situation.
30:56Because it seemed a little surreal to me too.
30:58That is, I couldn't quite frame the situation.
31:01Precisely because, I repeat, not being in Diana's mind
31:04I had not seen any precedent that could have led to all this happening.
31:12Nothing, basically, after I realized Diana was there with this bloody knife.
31:19I wondered what had happened
31:21I mean, I started a little bit to...
31:23I imagine with a certain perception
31:24I myself am going into panic
31:26Because it's not a very common situation, let's say.
31:34Well, I'd say it's extreme, in short.
31:36Exact
31:37She didn't answer me, she didn't tell me anything
31:39What did she do?
31:41Nothing, she was enough...
31:42You, you, Christopher?
31:43Yes, once, since the girl just didn't react
31:47She was a stone, wasn't she?
31:49Then I let go of the helm, I let it go
31:52In fact the boat then heeled
31:54And I went down
31:56I'm chosen down in the hull
31:57And I went to the side, let's say, I looked around
32:01Because I was alone only twice
32:03And then I went to the side of the cure
32:05He was sleeping
32:06And in fact I saw that she was lying on her back on this bed
32:12I shocked him, but he showed no signs of, let's say, life.
32:19I put my arms around his shoulders
32:23And I pulled her up
32:24Was he bleeding, how come?
32:24Yes, it was bleeding a lot from the side.
32:26There was also a fairly obvious leak
32:29I dragged her to the ladder
32:32And then I pulled her up
32:33I took her right up on deck
32:36At that moment, that is, Diana was always there
32:38Well, not really...
32:40As if she were petrified
32:42That is, she showed no sign of life either.
32:44Outside of standing
32:49I basically have it...
32:50I crouched down next to me
32:52Because the boat was starting to list terribly
32:55So I was afraid that something would break
32:58Or that some irreparable damage would happen
33:02And I, let's say, put her down next to me
33:06And I took the helm again to put the boat back under
33:10I tried to shake the curina
33:15That is, since I'm not just a doctor
33:17I don't know exactly how
33:21How serious was this...
33:23Let's put it this way, this wound
33:25So at some point
33:26After shaking it
33:28After seeing
33:28That is, having called her
33:30He showed no signs of life at all.
33:32And nothing, I called Diana back
33:34And Diana unfortunately too
33:36He was in a kind of coma
33:40He had dropped the knife
33:41I remember
33:43What did I do?
33:45I took this knife
33:47I threw it out
33:48That is, exactly
33:48More desperation than panic
33:52And I stayed, I think, a few minutes
33:55As
33:56Without thinking
33:57Because I couldn't
33:58I could hardly connect
34:00I mean, I didn't know what was going on.
34:02It was a completely different situation.
34:06Unthinkable
34:06But also catastrophic
34:08That is, it was proposed to me again
34:11A reality that
34:13It was never foreseen
34:16And I also stayed there for a moment
34:19Perplexed
34:20Not knowing what to do anymore
34:25In the end
34:27Let's put it this way
34:28Taking back
34:29Even if only to a minimal extent
34:31Because I can assure
34:33Which still today
34:34I have very confused memories
34:36Of those events
34:37Because I can't remember exactly
34:40Everything that happened
34:43In what order
34:45Because they are moments
34:48Which are truly shocking
34:51Let's say, let's say
34:53The rational situation of a person
34:55But also life
34:56Because they are not events
34:59What we propose to do
35:01Or to see
35:02In short, I'm really
35:05Indescribable
35:08So
35:10Nothing
35:11At that moment
35:13I looked at Diana
35:14I looked at the kitchen
35:15That is, there at a certain point
35:16It was also a choice
35:22Because clearly
35:23Me at that moment
35:24I should have
35:25Set sail for the first port
35:26Towards the beach
35:27I should have
35:29In short
35:31Let's put it this way
35:32Get the authorities involved
35:35Save her
35:35Do
35:36But I don't think that
35:38Meaning what
35:38I don't know if he was alive
35:40She was dead
35:40Absolutely
35:41I think she was absolutely dead
35:43Because he didn't react at all
35:46But let's also say
35:47From Diana's point of view
35:49From the point of view of what happened
35:50I didn't know what to do anymore
35:51That is, practically
35:52I found myself with a situation
35:57First of all
35:58Totally tragic
35:59Truly one
36:00Huge Trasiccia
36:02And then also why
36:03I had this girlfriend
36:05That
36:05In short
36:07Who I loved
36:09And there it would have been discussed
36:11Say or deliver it
36:12Or contact us
36:13To the authority
36:15Or
36:16Let's put it this way
36:17Continue
36:19Continue what?
36:21The journey
36:22Clearly
36:23In those moments
36:25I think that
36:25The feeling
36:27He had me
36:29Overwind
36:29Why
36:30After
36:32All the vicissitudes
36:34Go to the police
36:35And deliver Diana
36:36In short
36:37It would have been
36:37Even a little bit
36:39Catastrophic
36:41That is, it does not take away
36:42That what had happened
36:43It was truly tragic
36:44That is, it was
36:44A situation
36:46Truly
36:48Scary
36:51But here it is
36:51I think that
36:53I do not know
36:54If in a manner
36:56Rational or not
36:57I don't know
36:57To what extent
36:58Me at that moment
37:00I was aware
37:01Of what I did
37:02Or how I was doing it
37:06So let's say that
37:09I decided on the second solution
37:11That is, to continue
37:13And with that of
37:16Let's put it this way
37:17To protect Diana
37:20And that's what we do
37:21That is, practically
37:25The body was wrapped
37:27In a blanket
37:28It was weighted down
37:30And he came
37:32Let's say thrown into the water
37:34I would like to interrupt for a moment
37:52Before
37:53Yes
37:54Of course
37:55Meaning what
37:55This fact
37:57I didn't talk about it
37:59Because here it is
38:00He also sees at this moment
38:02Emotionality
38:05Let's say
38:05It certainly doesn't help
38:07To evaluate
38:09Or to remember
38:10Everyone
38:10The events
38:11But
38:12It must be said
38:13That
38:15After
38:16Annalita
38:17He came
38:17After
38:18Choose Annalita
38:19By my side
38:20I had to move
38:22A couple of times
38:23Why did I have to put it back
38:24The boat in sixth
38:25At all costs
38:25Meaning what
38:26The wind
38:27It was starting to come
38:28In flashes
38:28There was too much sail
38:30The mainsail
38:31It was not positioned
38:32So
38:32I was busy
38:34With some maneuvers
38:36That
38:36They required
38:37My mobility
38:40So at some point
38:42I had to get up
38:44I had to
38:44Give up
38:45Of the peaks
38:46I had to
38:47Let's put it this way
38:48To settle
38:52A little more
38:53With attention
38:55To the boat
38:58Diana
38:59He had
38:59A kind
39:00On impulse
39:01Hysterical
39:02I don't know
39:03Even today
39:05She
39:06He told her about it
39:07With Peter
39:08With Peter
39:08He told her about it
39:09Of this
39:10Indeed
39:11Peter
39:12He collected
39:13His very own
39:14How can you tell?
39:16Confession
39:17More intimate
39:19Me neither
39:20Just to Peter
39:20Because it was
39:21He was a friend of his
39:22From the oldest date
39:24He collected his
39:25Confession
39:26More intimate
39:26Of this
39:28And at a certain point
39:31He had this reaction
39:32Let's put it this way
39:34I think more than anything else
39:35Out of anger
39:35Towards her
39:36For what had happened
39:37I don't know exactly
39:39But the fact is
39:40That
39:42That is, nearby
39:43In the driving seat
39:44There was a knife
39:46Fishing
39:47Which was for the lines
39:48There was this machete
39:49What are used?
39:50For the tops
39:51That once
39:52Tangled
39:53Or in the helm
39:54Or in the propeller
39:55It is necessary to cut
39:56Immediately
39:57Before it splits
39:58Something
40:00At that moment
40:01The girl
40:02Take this
40:04And it began
40:05He gave him
40:05I don't know if two shots
40:07Or one
40:07I don't remember
40:08Even now
40:08Indeed
40:09The lawyer told me
40:10From the autopsy
40:11That were two shots
40:13I remember it
40:14Only one
40:14That is, this is one thing.
40:16Still that
40:17I can't do it myself
40:19To ask me
40:20I feel obliged to
40:21To remember them
40:23That from the minutes
40:24About the process
40:24Instead it turns out
40:26That the expertise
40:27He gives her the wrong
40:28Explicitly
40:29Said
40:30That the shots
40:32Infertility
40:32The injuries
40:33They were so devastating
40:34To be incompatible
40:36With the strength of a woman
40:37I hold myself responsible
40:38For what
40:40Actually
40:40It was committed by me
40:42Not for that
40:42What they accused me of
40:44In the sense that
40:45I have never declared
40:46To be
40:47Totally innocent
40:49I would find it too
40:51Absurd
40:52Towards myself
40:52Why me
40:53My responsibilities
40:54I have them
40:54I have to give them credit.
40:56But
40:57I found
40:59Absurd
40:59In the same way
41:00That I was blamed
41:02Of a murder
41:03Even premeditated
41:04Let's go back to that boat
41:06With the body
41:07Of this poor girl
41:08Massacred
41:09So she tells me
41:11You wrapped it up
41:12In a blanket
41:14You then have it
41:15Zadorato
41:16Zadorato as with an anchor
41:17Yes with an anchor
41:19And we lowered it into the water
41:21She didn't know
41:22What does he know about it?
41:23That the seabed
41:24There they were 20 meters
41:25That it would have been very easy
41:26Then
41:27That this body
41:28Resurfaced
41:29Effectively
41:29The question you ask me
41:30It was addressed to me
41:32From a juror
41:35This in the first instance
41:37As she rightly says
41:39Having been there too
41:41A long time in the place
41:42We knew very well
41:43Which they even did
41:44He fishes it
41:45The train
41:46We were very close
41:47At the shore
41:48So
41:49It wouldn't have been
41:50Today nor tomorrow
41:51But they would have found it again
41:52Of course
41:53But in a very short time
41:55Yet at that moment
41:56Not being
41:57Let's put it this way
41:59Aware of that
42:00What was done
42:02We thought
42:03What before
42:03It was hidden
42:05And it was better
42:06That is, we just wanted
42:09Remove
42:11Probably also
42:11This sign
42:12Of what had happened
42:13From the boat
42:14But alone
42:15You were able
42:15To steer the boat?
42:17Ninth
42:17In fact, at that moment I
42:18I had nothing clear in my mind
42:20Because I knew
42:21Than running away with Diana
42:22It was impossible
42:24She has an optical problem
42:26That is, the night
42:27He doesn't distinguish well
42:28The distances
42:29And she had already approached me
42:30Time behind
42:31The keel
42:32Of my first boat
42:33Why did he do it?
42:34Run aground
42:34On a beach
42:36So I was
42:37Absolutely convinced
42:38That I couldn't
42:39Go away
42:41For this reason he has
42:41Called Peter
42:42Exact
42:43Because of this
42:43I called Peter
42:45From Porto San Giorgio
42:46I stopped
42:47In Porto San Giorgio
42:48I called Peter
42:50And I told him
42:51Listen
42:52I have a boat
42:54I didn't reveal it to him.
42:55The event
42:58In its entirety
43:00I said
43:01Look, I have a boat
43:02I have to bring it
43:02In the Balearic Islands
43:03But he commissioned it
43:04This
43:05When she called
43:07Peter
43:07Do you remember what day it was?
43:08The next day
43:09Meaning what
43:10So June 11th?
43:12Yes
43:12Because I that same evening
43:14I docked in Ancona
43:15At the nautical club
43:16From Ancona
43:17Listen
43:18And why does Peter say
43:19That she instead
43:20He called him
43:21June 8th
43:22That is, two days before
43:23Of the departure
43:24Telling him
43:25That he would have it
43:26That she would have had
43:27Available
43:27A boat
43:28That they would have been
43:29Only her
43:29By Anna
43:31Him
43:31Peter said this
43:33No
43:34This one here in fact
43:35It is not
43:36He was wrong
43:37Hand
43:38They were just
43:39Date changes
43:40Meaning what
43:41Him too
43:42Meaning what
43:43It is also necessary to keep
43:44In context
43:45We have to see
43:46In context
43:46About what happened
43:47When we arrive in Italy
43:49The pressure on us
43:51It was so much
43:52That he too
43:53Poor thing
43:54He found himself
43:55Transported in a
43:56In a prison
43:58And he found himself
43:59With magistrates
44:01And with police
44:02It wasn't easy
44:03At that moment
44:04Let's put it this way
44:05Give exact dates
44:06But
44:08Listen
44:09De Cristoforo
44:10You at a certain point
44:12You have also changed
44:13Name the catamaran
44:14Real?
44:15Yes
44:15His name was Arx
44:16The catamaran
44:16Yes
44:17We have
44:18Bought
44:19Right there
44:20In Porto San Giorgio
44:21Some letters
44:22Self-adhesive
44:24We have them
44:25Glued
44:25On the boat
44:26Listen
44:27De Cristoforo
44:27We have arrived
44:28June 28th
44:29And on June 28th
44:30From a fishing boat
44:31In Senigallia
44:32He is fished out
44:33Anna Rita's body
44:35The relatives
44:36Immediately
44:37They recognize her
44:39And at this point
44:40It begins
44:41A gigantic hunt
44:43A manhunt
44:44A hunt for you
44:45In short
44:46Not only
44:47They are warned
44:48The police
44:49From all over the Mediterranean
44:50The captains
44:50Of Porto
44:51And then
44:52There is also
44:53A wave of emotions
44:54Very strong
44:55For this one
44:56For this story
44:57For this tragedy
44:59So much so that
45:00Even from other boats
45:02Not just friends
45:02But of people
45:03Even unknown ones
45:04This one starts
45:06This research
45:07Of this hunt
45:08To the man
45:09In short
45:10Direct to you
45:11Because it was clear
45:12What you were
45:13States indicated to you
45:14As people
45:15That being on board
45:16With Anna Rita
45:16You were responsible
45:18Of what had happened
45:19Do you know this?
45:21Yes
45:21Let's say
45:22I heard it after
45:24But at the moment
45:25I knew it
45:26How did you know?
45:28We found out
45:29Once
45:30Let's say
45:32Arrived in Tunis
45:33We had abandoned
45:34The boat
45:34And in Tunis
45:35They sell Italian newspapers
45:37And there we saw
45:39Let's say
45:40Our faces
45:41In the newspaper
45:42So only at that moment?
45:44We didn't know it yet
45:45And then Peter
45:46At that point
45:47He was made aware
45:49In fact
45:50Yes
45:50He was made aware
45:51Of everything
45:51But let's say
45:53Us
45:53Before that
45:55Of that moment there
45:56We had already abandoned
45:58The catamaran
45:58I repeat
45:59A real project
46:01It's not that
46:02There was
46:03Why
46:05It wasn't every moment
46:07In my opinion
46:07To make plans
46:08I myself
46:09I couldn't do it
46:10Given the gravity
46:11Even about the situation
46:12That
46:14We had created
46:15And so
46:17At some point
46:17We took
46:19These horses
46:19Because it was a medium
46:20Of locomotion
46:21Quite cheap
46:23And nothing
46:24We were moving
46:25From Tunisia
46:25Going
46:26Towards Algeria
46:27Towards
46:28Towards Morocco
46:29Meaning what
46:29Sincerely
46:31Without
46:32An idea
46:33Very precise
46:34We wanted to get away
46:35That's all there is to it.
46:35And instead
46:36What's happening?
46:38But it happened
46:39That
46:40We stopped
46:41In a
46:42In a village
46:43Why the dog
46:44Because there was the dog
46:45By Peter
46:45With us
46:46He got sick
46:48The dog
46:49Getting sick
46:52He ruined himself
46:53The fingertips
46:54From the
46:54Of the paws
46:55And he couldn't do it anymore
46:56To walk
46:57Then we stopped
46:58In this place
46:58To be able to
47:00Give the dog a chance
47:02To rest
47:02To heal
47:04It is clear that
47:08Being Tunisia
47:09A place
47:10Covered
47:11For half
47:12Of desert
47:12There are certain rules
47:15A little more
47:17Police
47:17That here
47:17Meaning what
47:18To move
47:18From a city
47:19To the other
47:19We need to communicate
47:21Both to the departing city
47:22And to the destination city
47:23Us
47:25Not having done this
47:27We have raised
47:30Curiosity
47:30Of a couple
47:32Of gendarmes
47:33That they were there
47:37After three or four days
47:38That we were standing still
47:39They came
47:40Call us
47:41To go
47:42In their office
47:43AND
47:45Let's say
47:46Make the assessment
47:47Of the case
47:48We were taken
47:49From panic
47:49At that moment
47:52But
47:52Despite this
47:53We followed them
47:54Force
47:54There was no choice
47:57Always with my passport
47:59That is, I have never
47:59Had false documents
48:01And they took them
48:02They checked my
48:03They checked
48:04Diana's student head
48:05They checked
48:06Peter's Passport
48:07Nothing
48:08They released us
48:09That is, they noticed each other.
48:11Our names
48:12And they brought us back
48:14Obviously
48:14We were pretty incredible
48:16At that moment
48:17Why
48:17We didn't understand why
48:19Only after
48:20It was explained to us
48:21That
48:21Those little peripheral units
48:24They have no contacts
48:25With the power plant
48:26Being then
48:27You have been reported
48:28Our names
48:29They have been released
48:31Very different provisions
48:32In fact a couple of hours later
48:33They came to take
48:34With the excuse
48:35Of a new control
48:37Certain
48:37When we got there
48:38We found
48:39About twenty soldiers
48:42Armed
48:43What did they put there?
48:44In a cell
48:45And they have us
48:45Together?
48:47So
48:48They put us together
48:49The first two or three hours
48:50Then after we were taken
48:52Immediately to Tunis
48:52And we never saw each other again
48:54Until the moment of take-off
48:55So what happened?
48:56Were you interrogated in Tunis?
48:58Yes
48:59I said what happened
49:01That is what I have explained to you so far.
49:03What he told
49:05Dianna gave him the same
49:07He told her the same thing
49:09Peter obviously told him
49:10Yes
49:11I knew it
49:12But I found out later
49:13Arrived here in Italy
49:16There was the interrogation
49:18After a few days
49:22I was
49:22I was imprisoned in Ancona prison
49:25There was an interrogation
49:26A few days
49:27Who was in solitary confinement
49:28For legal reasons
49:29So
49:30I said the same thing
49:33Dianna the same
49:34Peter too
49:35There is practically
49:36That is, this murder out of jealousy
49:38Yes
49:39Not with
49:40Absolutely
49:42In a second time
49:44Dianna receives the visit
49:46Of the parents
49:48Which is something I also note
49:49It seemed quite strange
49:51Because after all
49:52It was also normal for parents to come
49:54With another aggeria
49:55Yes no
49:55But strange in the sense
49:57That came at a time
50:00How strangely
50:02The interrogation
50:02They had been suspended
50:03Meaning what
50:04I also had
50:05At some point
50:08Let's put it this way
50:09Asked the magistrate
50:10Who was dealing with the case
50:12In short, to understand
50:13A moment
50:13What position was I in?
50:14He was suspended
50:16Dianna spoke to her parents
50:20And after
50:22But not even two or three days
50:24He gave a whole different version
50:26About what happened
50:29Saying that
50:30The murder had been committed
50:32For
50:34To be able to take this boat
50:36That is Dianna spoke then
50:38Of premeditated murder
50:40The theft of the boat was finalized
50:42That is Dianna said that
50:44She
50:45In this one we say
50:47Tragic story
50:48He had exclusively
50:50Poured the Valium
50:51And he had given
50:52The first stab wound
50:53He had given it
50:54Pushed
50:55Pushed by her
50:56That he had it
50:57Prayed
50:58Induced by
50:59Of being her
51:01To solve
51:03Let's call it his problem
51:04In short
51:05Let's call it his problem
51:06To erase a life
51:07While substantially
51:09Then she would finish
51:11Anna Rita
51:12With the birth strokes
51:13So this is the version
51:15What Dianna gave
51:16Then
51:17She does something very strange
51:19Exact
51:20August 5th
51:21She
51:22He confirms
51:23Dianna's version
51:24When the magistrate
51:25He told me
51:25It happened like this
51:26I just told him yes
51:28I said
51:29If it was said so
51:30Diana
51:31It will certainly be
51:32Success like this
51:33So
51:34She confirms
51:35But
51:36Not far away
51:37She portrays
51:38One more time
51:39Meaning what
51:40She says
51:41It is not true
51:41I
51:45I confirm
51:45How much instead
51:46I said
51:47Initially
51:48Meaning what
51:48That this murder
51:49Was
51:50Made by Dianna
51:51Out of jealousy
51:53AND
51:55He claims
51:56Again
51:56Before the investigating judge
51:58The thesis of a crime
51:59Out of jealousy
52:00Implemented
52:01From Dianna
52:02Why does he do it?
52:02Because it was felt
52:03Betrayed by Dianna?
52:05No
52:06Sincerely
52:07They were my summons
52:08To convince me
52:09This is because
52:11They
52:12They knew exactly
52:14What had happened
52:15It had also been evaluated
52:17With evidence
52:18It had been wanted
52:19They had spoken
52:21With Peter
52:22Diana
52:23Diana
52:23Yes it was
52:24Confessed
52:24Right with Peter
52:27And they knew me
52:28Meaning what
52:28They knew
52:29What kind of person
52:30I was
52:30But in any case
52:31The judges then believed
52:33To Dianna
52:33To Dianna's version
52:34To the guilt version
52:36In his regard
52:37Meaning what
52:37There was his truth
52:51Against
52:52The role
52:52Aside
52:55Let's put it this way
52:56The press
52:57I repeat
52:57This was
52:58The first interview
52:59That I had
53:00With a journalist
53:02The press
53:03He played a role
53:04Tremendo
53:05In my case
53:06Advertising
53:07Characters built
53:09Non-existent
53:10I introduced myself
53:12At a trial
53:12Already with the conviction
53:14Meaning what
53:14There was very little
53:15To do
53:15But he doesn't believe
53:16That the fact
53:17That
53:17The fact that
53:19The judges believed
53:20To Dianna
53:20May it depend
53:21Also
53:22From a circumstance
53:23Meaning what
53:24Diana
53:25In a certain sense
53:25Yes it is also
53:26Assumption
53:27Of responsibilities
53:28In the story
53:29She didn't back out
53:30Completely
53:31He said
53:32I did this
53:33I pulled
53:34The stabbing
53:35I participated
53:37Even in phase
53:37Project
53:38Let's say that
53:40It's clear
53:41That at a certain point
53:42Having
53:44In my opinion
53:44A project was drawn up
53:46Listen
53:47And to the parents
53:48By Anna Rita Curina
53:49Have you ever written?
53:51I have never written to them
53:54It is obviously
53:55Out of embarrassment
53:56Out of shame
53:57For those feelings
53:59In short
53:59That
54:00I think it's not natural
54:02Also
54:03In one person
54:05Who knows
54:05Of having caused
54:07Such a strong pain
54:08Which practically
54:09Irreparable
54:10It is not
54:11On the contrary
54:13Let's hope
54:14With this
54:15I repeat
54:16With this
54:17Interview
54:18I will awaken
54:19Determined
54:21Pains
54:22That
54:22I would never have
54:24Wanted to awaken
54:25How do you live?
54:25In company
54:26Of a remorse
54:27That big?
54:31But
54:31Let's say that
54:32It is a component
54:34You never get used to it
54:36This is little
54:36But sure
54:38As for
54:39It's very different
54:42The situation
54:43Of him
54:44What he commits
54:44A crime
54:45And it comes
54:45Prisoner
54:46Why
54:48Let's put it this way
54:48Things went badly for him
54:49Or he
54:51That
54:54Stumbles
54:54In these
54:55Events
54:55And he finds himself
54:56In a situation
54:57And he can cry
54:58Only himself
54:59Why
54:59Nobody
55:01He has it
55:02Favorite
55:03In this
55:04Situation
55:05Or he has it
55:06Pushed
55:06So
55:07At a certain point
55:07Point
55:08It's a
55:09It's a
55:11Something
55:11That not
55:11He abandons you
55:12Never
55:16In the isophore
55:17What a relationship
55:17He has with
55:18The prison
55:18She?
55:21With prison
55:22I have a
55:23Relationship
55:26Enough
55:27New
55:27But
55:28Let's say that
55:29He lives it
55:30In a way
55:30Constructive
55:32Not
55:32Conflictual
55:33Absolutely
55:35Absolutely
55:36This
55:37Was
55:38Also
55:38A
55:39Let's put it this way
55:41Of the reasons
55:43For which
55:44We have
55:45Undertaken
55:46A certain one
55:46Initiative
55:47Excuse me
55:47If I interrupt her
55:48It's an initiative
55:49It's an experiment
55:49Very interesting
55:51Which has been put into action
55:52If I'm not mistaken
55:53From the director of this prison
55:56Exact
55:56With the support of course
55:59From the General Manager
56:00Exact
56:01He is very brave
56:03He is very brave
56:03And also of notable human value
56:08So many of us
56:09They work and study up to 12-13 hours a day
56:14We work
56:15We work
56:15We work
56:15We study
56:15We are committed
56:17We volunteer
56:18There are those who study
56:20From a scientific point of view
56:22Me for example
56:23I'm busy
56:24In computer studies
56:26I am already a computer programmer
56:29Only that
56:29I'm
56:30Ranging
56:32On all the various languages
56:34Just to be able to face one day
56:38With more technical knowledge
56:40Maybe an external work reality
56:44Which is currently closed to me
56:46Which however cannot be totally excluded
56:49What do you expect for the future?
56:51My tendency is not to do
56:59Short-term projects
57:03Also because I repeat
57:06I have this big one
57:09If I may say so
57:11Sense of what happened that
57:12He doesn't abandon me
57:14That is, he is always with me
57:15I am always aware
57:16About what happened
57:19And I repeat
57:21What
57:21I described before
57:23It was what I would most like to do
57:25That is, a real downsizing.
57:28Of everything
57:29And the power
57:31Let's put it this way
57:31Feel a little at peace too
57:33With
57:33Who was hit
57:35From this
57:36Immense pain
57:38Mr. De Cristoforo
57:40How much is a human life worth?
57:45But
57:48Let's say that
57:49It's worth much more
57:50Of a life sentence
57:51Let's say that
58:48Let's say that
59:12Let's say that
59:14Let's say that
59:21Let's say that
59:22Let's say that
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