00:00It's just interesting to hear national correspondents saying things I've been saying for, I don't know, a year now.
00:06No matter what was said, let's think about it, it was a year ago that they were at the owners'
00:11meetings
00:12and they were talking about the situation with Deshaun Watson and that's when we got the famous swing and a
00:19miss quote, right?
00:20That came from the owners' meetings from Jimmy Haslam.
00:23But again, if a guy's on your roster, you're paying him, he's got an active spot, you're probably going to
00:30give him a chance to play.
00:31And Jeff wants to argue with me on my argument about return on investment, but I don't know anybody.
00:37I don't care if you're a billionaire or whatever your financial situation is.
00:43No one likes to take money and just burn it.
00:45Nobody.
00:46Nobody.
00:49And, you know, in the Haslam's case, when they decided to bring Deshaun in on this deal that is just
00:54haunting them in so many different ways,
00:58they didn't want to burn money either.
01:00I can't.
01:02Maybe the next time I see Jimmy Haslam, I'll be like, hey, Jimmy, the last time you had a $1
01:05bill in your pocket or a $5 bill in your pocket,
01:07did you ever want to just think about putting that to a lighter and letting it go?
01:11And I'm going to pretty much guarantee you he's probably going to say no.
01:14So my return on investment argument for Deshaun Watson and the Browns will never die.
01:20But ask any good investor, right?
01:22Yeah.
01:23Sometimes you've got to lose money.
01:24Talk to any good investor.
01:26You can pick any one of them that you deem necessary for this that you think is someone who understands
01:30how markets work
01:31and have made money off of it and all that stuff.
01:33What they will tell you is when things go south, cut bait.
01:36Don't try to keep chasing it.
01:38Don't try to keep making it work.
01:39Don't try to do all those things.
01:40Just cut bait.
01:41They can't.
01:42They could?
01:42Can't.
01:44Yeah, they could.
01:45You could June 1 cut him, Deshaun Watson, right now, and you would pay him the same amount of money
01:52that you would pay him if he played.
01:53So here's the question.
01:55We spent an entire offseason yelling about reps.
01:58Reps, reps, reps, reps, reps, reps, reps.
02:00How come Shadour's not getting enough reps?
02:01Why doesn't Dylan Gabriel get more reps?
02:03Reps, reps, reps, reps.
02:04Joe Flacco's not taking any reps.
02:05Reps, reps, reps, reps.
02:07Down the line from there.
02:08Oh, Kenny Pickett got some reps.
02:09Reps, reps, reps.
02:10Down the line we go.
02:11Okay.
02:11If you're so worried about reps and you're looking at a guy like Deshaun Watson and you're going to pay
02:17him the same amount of money whether he takes a snap or doesn't take a snap and you're hell-bent
02:22on reps, wouldn't you want to clear the picture?
02:26Cut your loss.
02:28The smartest thing every investor will tell you is to cut your loss.
02:32Just go, hey, we lost.
02:33That's it.
02:34It didn't work.
02:35Oh, well, we lost that money.
02:36Stop trying to chase it.
02:38Stop trying to make it work.
02:39Stop trying to make fetch happen.
02:40Just immediately throw your hands in the air and go, we lost.
02:43That's what Jimmy Haslam did.
02:44So, I don't know why we're living in this world where Mike Garofalo goes on Good Morning Football yesterday and
02:50says this, direct quote, does Deshaun Watson have a chance to be the Browns starter in 2026?
02:55Garofalo said on air, ah, yes, he does.
02:58And in my opinion, he's got a great shot.
03:00In fact, at this point, if Deshaun Watson is the starter week one for the Cleveland Browns, this guy right
03:05here is not going to be surprised.
03:07Now, there's probably going to be some kind of an open competition that they'll have throughout the summer.
03:12The Browns have done that before.
03:13They had one last year, a four-way competition last year in training camp for the Browns.
03:18So, I would expect that is the way it goes.
03:20But you're paying Watson anyway.
03:22He's on the roster.
03:23He was previously an accomplished quarterback.
03:26There's been a lot that's happened off the field.
03:29I understand it.
03:30But to me, Deshaun Watson might even be in the pole position at this point to be the Browns starter
03:35for the upcoming season.
03:37That's according to Mike Garofalo, and I think that's silly.
03:40Not that Mike's saying it.
03:42I just think the opinion's silly.
03:44What good does it get me?
03:46You've lost the investment.
03:48All you're doing now is just hammering yourself over the head, and you're putting the rest of the team at
03:53a detriment because the guy that you're going to bring out there was known for his athleticism, Andy.
03:59Deshaun Watson was known for his athleticism.
04:01He was known for his arm strength and the fact that he was able to build it up.
04:03He was one of the first quarterbacks we ever saw whose arm got stronger when he made it to the
04:06NFL and props to him for it.
04:08And his ability to scramble around in the back.
04:11When we got him in Cleveland after the year-and-a-half layoff, year-and-three-quarter layoff, what did
04:15we all say about him?
04:17He's processing slow.
04:19His brain's not working as fast as it should.
04:21Now you're going to have another year-and-a-half layoff, and you're going to put a guy out there
04:26who was processing slow to begin with,
04:28and now you're going to give him another delay and think he's going to come in here and process better?
04:33Even before we get to the physical drain that has taken place to Deshaun Watson, the mental drain needs to
04:39be addressed.
04:41His inability to read a field showed up every time he stepped on the field for the Cleveland Browns.
04:46And we're going to do this again?
04:48Yeah.
04:49Because your owner went, well, I spent the money.
04:51Well, then you're always going to stink.
04:54You're always going to be down this creek every single time if you don't look at your mistakes and cut
05:00bait with them before you have to seriously pay for them.
05:04You have already seriously paid for it.
05:06Right.
05:07So it's done.
05:08Why are you paying farther?
05:10June 1, send him home.
05:12Give the reps to the rookies.
05:14Give the reps to the second-year starters.
05:16Hand the ball to Shadour and sell me on hope.
05:20What if your new head coach believes he can be a quarterback?
05:24If my new head coach believes that, he damn well better show it.
05:29It better be out there week one and it better look better than it ever did under Kevin Stefanski.
05:33And it better look better than it ever did before then when we watched other quarterbacks walk into this system
05:38and find some modicum of success and him come in here and have none.
05:42Slim to none, slim to none, outside of one wonderful half against the Ravens and another wonderful half that he
05:48had against the Commanders when he led that comeback.
05:51Do you want me to write the Cleveland story on how this plays out?
05:55Then buck the trend.
05:57Do you want me to write the Cleveland story?
05:59What's the definition of insanity?
06:01Do you want me to?
06:02What's the definition of insanity?
06:03Do you want me to tell you how this story is going to play out?
06:06Why?
06:07Why would you do that?
06:09Because this is what happens.
06:11So buck the trend.
06:13If you don't listen to history, you'll never learn.
06:15Damn right.
06:15That's why I say buck the trend.
06:17Send him home.
06:18Here's what I'm saying.
06:19Here's what I think is going to happen.
06:21If Watson's still here, he is the starting quarterback to start the season.
06:23And guess what?
06:24He starts the season off halfway decent.
06:28Looks okay.
06:29People have argument for him to be the starting quarterback for the rest of the year.
06:33In fact, you think he's going to be the quarterback for the rest of the year.
06:35And then you know what happens?
06:36He gets hurt.
06:38And then when the season's over, you have people arguing over the fact that they should
06:42sign him again.
06:43Here's my...
06:44What argument?
06:45Here's my resume.
06:47My resume says that I was awful for three and a half years.
06:51If you can win when you return to the field, no one cares about your awfulness of three
06:55and a half years.
06:55Three and a half years.
06:57If he goes out there and wins games in the beginning of the season, no one's going to
07:00care about what happened the last three years.
07:02Please.
07:02Yes, they will.
07:03Yes, they will.
07:04Dan, if the...
07:06Let's just say the...
07:06Let's say Deshaun Watson.
07:08Again, hypothetical.
07:09I know I'm not...
07:10I know you're going to be insane.
07:12Hypothetical.
07:12Oh, I know.
07:13We're on the hypothetical island right here.
07:15I'm aware.
07:15Watson starts the season off four and oh.
07:19Does anyone care about the last three years?
07:21No, they don't.
07:23But then if he gets hurt...
07:24Because we, as the great Wayne and Garth, and I think it was Garth that said, live in
07:29the now.
07:30Okay, that's a better quote than I thought.
07:31I thought we were going to go with the sign that he holds up at the head of the arcade.
07:35What is that?
07:36I can't remember this.
07:37I can't say it on the air.
07:37I'll tell you in the break.
07:38I'll go back and look.
07:38It's one of the great lines of all time.
07:40Live in the now, man.
07:42But why am I going to let a flash in the now completely derail my future?
07:47That's the other problem with this.
07:48Because there's no future with Deshaun Watson.
07:51There's not zero zilch.
07:53Why would you want a future?
07:55Because if they started the season...
07:57Why?
07:57Again, hypothetical.
07:58Don't...
07:58Oh, I know.
07:59We're down the hypothetical road.
08:01I understand that.
08:01I'm not...
08:02If you start the season four and oh with him, A, people won't care about what happened
08:06in the past.
08:07B, people are going to think we're going to the Super Bowl.
08:11Andy, this is Cleveland.
08:12If they start four and oh, everybody's going to wait for the other shoe to drop.
08:16Nope.
08:16We've lived here long enough.
08:17We know...
08:18Yes, we have.
08:18We are going to wait for the shoe to drop and pray it doesn't.
08:22Look at the calves and how all of us are with the calves.
08:25We're looking around going, oh, hell, when are they going to goof us up?
08:29We're all doing it.
08:31Okay, maybe we are.
08:33It's in our DNA.
08:34We're doing the same thing with four and oh.
08:36Four and oh is going to happen.
08:38You're going to have a chunk of the fan base going, woo!
08:40This is awesome.
08:41It's more than a chunk.
08:42And you're going to have a chunk of the fan base going, oh, my God, did you see those
08:46four throws that he had that were dropped by that safety?
08:51But we're four and oh, Dan.
08:53Keep talking through your teeth.
08:54As I said, you're always going to have that part of it.
08:56That's going to come with it.
08:58That's Cleveland.
08:58That's what we're built for.
09:00I don't know why.
09:01I wish we weren't, but we are.
09:04Hand the ball to Shador.
09:05Are you ready for him to be the starter?
09:07No.
09:07We're wasting time.
09:09Dan, have you listened to any of the experts over the last couple weeks?
09:12We're wasting time.
09:13They're all leaning towards Deshaun having a chance to start at the beginning of the season.
09:18Andy, because we're bored.
09:20There's nothing out of this draft that's sexy.
09:22There's nothing out of this draft that we're pointing to.
09:24We're trying to have a conversation right now about if Arvel Reese could possibly be a
09:28middle linebacker or a pass rusher.
09:29And that's sexy draft talk.
09:31Ooh, baby.
09:32No, that's Buckeye football talk.
09:35You can find that on any of the channels.
09:37I mean, well, can Sonny Stiles go before Arvel Reese?
09:40Ooh, sexy draft talk.
09:42Like, I mean, that's where we are right now.
09:44We're bored.
09:46This is a bored conversation that we are in the midst of right now.
09:50This is, we're bored.
09:52If they run him out there.
09:54Are you prepared for Deshaun Watson to be the starting quarterback week one?
09:58If you put Deshaun Watson out there and the starting quarterback in week one,
10:01you are telling your fans, we are wanting to waste your time.
10:04You're telling your fans.
10:06Remember the three first round picks that we spent?
10:08Remember all the money that we spent?
10:10Do you remember all the anguish that we've had and all the turmoil and learning all of
10:14these new legal jargons because of it?
10:17Well, guess what?
10:18He's your starter now.
10:20And if he wins, enjoy.
10:22Cut bait.
10:23That's why.
10:23Just cut bait.
10:25I've watched the Dolphins.
10:26You know what you've said to me about Major League Baseball a hundred times over the last
10:28three days?
10:30Enjoy.
10:31Yeah, I told you.
10:31Ignore the sword at Damocles.
10:32Yes.
10:33Don't worry about the end of the season.
10:35Don't worry about it.
10:36Guess what?
10:36If Deshaun Watson's your starting quarterback and you win a couple games and start the
10:40beginning of the season, enjoy.
10:43Go back to your theory on baseball because I'm telling you, he is going to have the opportunity
10:49to be the starting quarterback unless, A, they cut him after June 1st, or B, they trade
10:55him.
10:55That's it.
10:56He's going to have a chance.
11:00I think you're wasting everyone's time because, again, at least...
11:05I'm not.
11:05You'd say the team is.
11:06...which should doer Sanders.
11:07No, no, no.
11:08Yeah.
11:08You're right.
11:09I misworded that.
11:10That's me.
11:11The team would be wasting everyone's time because at least with should or Sanders, I
11:16can sell hope.
11:17I can at least sell the idea that this guy is improving.
11:21I could sell the idea that this guy is in the building.
11:23I could sell the idea that this guy is young and is getting better with every single snap
11:29and understanding.
11:30I can at least sell that fact.
11:32And I could sell that fact with the idea that win, lose, or draw, either A, I have my
11:38quarterback of the future.
11:39He's right here.
11:39He's under team control and he's cheap.
11:41Or B, in 2027, I will have my quarterback of the future.
11:44He'll be under team control and he'll be cheap.
11:47Like, that's the highlight of the Shador Sanders thing.
11:50Boom.
11:50It's right there.
11:51It's the best path forward for the sake of this franchise.
11:56Running Deshaun Watson out there once again will be a giant waste of everyone's time.
12:01Unless he wins.
12:03Unless he wins.
12:04I highly doubt it.
12:05I highly doubt it.
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