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00:00Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:38Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
01:00You said detective?
01:01I don't know. I didn't talk to him directly. It's all a little doughy.
01:07Is that an AirPod? Do you have an AirPod in right now?
01:11Yes.
01:12Are you listening to something?
01:13Yes.
01:14It's a podcast about bread making. But there's also like a lot about celebrity real estate. Keeps my stress level
01:20down.
01:28What time did he call?
01:29First call to the White House switchboard was at around two and then he called a few times after that.
01:33A few times?
01:33Yes.
01:34How many times?
01:3531.
01:35That's a lot of times.
01:36We get weird calls every day and we usually ignore them. But he was pretty persistent.
01:43Do you like brioche?
01:48Shh. Come in.
02:01You're the one who called?
02:02Yeah.
02:02You saw something?
02:03Yes.
02:04At the White House?
02:05Yes.
02:06Tell us about it.
02:07Uh, Detective Cupp.
02:14Those are your parents?
02:15Yes.
02:19Tell us what you saw.
02:24At one point, Detective Cupp even had Agent Trask move the dad because he was snoring.
02:32Vucey told us that his parents had planned this special trip to D.C. so that he could take a
02:36tour of the White House because he loves the White House.
02:39But then the tour was canceled.
02:41So they switched hotels to the Hay Adams so Vucey could at least get a great view of the White
02:46House even though what he really wanted was a tour.
02:48So, can I get a tour?
02:49No.
02:50How long have you been watching the White House?
02:52He said he'd been watching everything from that window since six just to see what he could see.
02:57It's a state dinner, right?
02:58Yes.
02:58Australia?
02:59Yes.
03:00Hasn't been an Australian state dinner since 2006.
03:03What did you see?
03:05Can I talk to you alone?
03:06No.
03:06Why?
03:07I don't like the look of them.
03:12Wait outside.
03:19What did you see?
03:20A flashing red light.
03:21Where?
03:22In the window.
03:22Which window?
03:23Room 301.
03:24Room 301?
03:25The northeast corner.
03:26It was originally storage, but after the Truman restoration, it was a bedroom.
03:30Under President Johnson, it was turned into a gym, then an office, and then a bedroom.
03:39Can I get a tour?
03:40No.
03:40Why not?
03:41I don't know.
03:41I'm not giving out tours right now.
03:44Tell me about the light.
03:45It was flashing, but it was also moving around, up and down, and side to side.
03:48For how long?
03:4915 to 20 seconds.
03:50Then I went away, then I saw it again.
03:51What time was that?
03:53I went to tour.
03:54No.
03:54What time?
03:54I have information you need.
03:56I don't need this information.
03:57Then why are you here?
04:00What's your mom's name?
04:01Sydney.
04:01Sydney!
04:02No, stop.
04:02She's asleep.
04:03What time did you see the light?
04:06Around 10.
04:07What time exactly?
04:08I don't know exactly.
04:09It was around 10.
04:09A kid who knows what year Room 301 became a gym knows the exact time.
04:16Sydney!
04:17Stop.
04:17What time?
04:19946, and then again at 951.
04:21And you called us after that?
04:23Yes.
04:2331 times.
04:24I was worried.
04:24About a flashing red light.
04:28What happened to it was there tonight?
04:29Nothing happened.
04:30Something happened.
04:31No one has left.
04:31It's a good party.
04:32Not for the dead person they brought out the front.
04:43Write your name and phone number down.
04:45I'll get you a tour.
04:46Won't be anytime soon.
04:47I'll make good on it.
04:50You have a business card.
04:52It has all my information on it.
04:53Why do you have a business card?
04:55You know, for things like this.
04:59A flashing red light.
05:01Yes.
05:01In the window?
05:02Yes.
05:03That's what he said he saw.
05:04Yes.
05:04I don't know how it connects exactly.
05:06It doesn't.
05:08Unbelievable.
05:09What?
05:10They're brake lights.
05:11What are you talking about?
05:12The flashing red lights?
05:13Brake lights.
05:14From the cars on 16th Street, driving away from the White House, reflecting back on the White House windows.
05:19We get calls about it every week.
05:20FBI gets them too.
05:22It's the most enduring conspiracy theory in Washington.
05:24The flashing red lights in the windows of the White House.
05:27You know I missed a whole section on the sourdough starter for this.
05:46After you left the Hay Adams, you returned to the White House?
05:49Yes.
05:50And what happened when you returned?
05:53Well, people had some questions.
05:58Detective Cubs!
06:00Back away!
06:01Get your face back!
06:02Back away!
06:04Back away!
06:06Back away!
06:07Back away!
06:08Back away!
06:09Back away!
06:09Back away!
06:09Back away!
06:10Back away!
06:10Back away!
06:11Back away!
06:11I haven't been there.
06:13One minute.
06:14One minute.
06:15One minute.
06:16The masses are getting restless.
06:18You can send them home.
06:18No, I can't.
06:19Not yet.
06:20Have you ever heard about the flashing red lights in the windows of the White House?
06:23The brake lights on 16th Street?
06:25Stop.
06:25Really?
06:26I think it's brake lights, not stop lights.
06:29How do I not know about this?
06:30Where have I been?
06:31Alaska, Madagascar, Patagonia, Borneo.
06:35Places with birds.
06:36Right.
06:37I don't think that's what he saw, brake lights.
06:39Is that you just being stubborn?
06:40He said he only saw them twice.
06:42If there were brake lights, he would have been seeing them all night.
06:44People only report seeing Bigfoot for a few seconds.
06:46But, I mean, he's very, very large and furry, and he must be there all the time.
06:53What do you want to do?
06:53I need to talk to Harry Hollinger.
06:55What do you need me to do?
06:56Just stop anybody from talking to me.
06:58Anybody?
06:59Most people.
06:59Needy people.
07:00I don't have time.
07:01What about, say, Kylie Minogue?
07:04Do I want to talk to her right now?
07:05Absolutely not.
07:06Very low chance she has any useful information for me.
07:09Why are you asking about Kylie Minogue?
07:14Detective Cub.
07:15Can we talk?
07:17Listen, I just wanted to say I really appreciate everything you're doing here tonight.
07:21Okay.
07:22I know there's a lot of people grumbling, but not the Australians.
07:26Right.
07:27But one thing.
07:28I don't know if you're aware, but I wasn't supposed to be performing tonight.
07:32Did anyone tell you that?
07:34Is that true?
07:35100% true.
07:36Lily Schumacher and her energy healer, St. Pierre, had a different musical guest in mind.
07:41Actually, a lot of them.
07:42I love Bad Bunny for this.
07:44Love it.
07:44Lana Del Rey.
07:45Obsessed.
07:46Kat Stevens.
07:47Who?
07:47Never mind, you go.
07:48Are these real options?
07:52Harry Styles.
07:54Harry's house.
07:56Harry's white house.
07:58Like everything that night, the list kept changing.
08:00But Lily assured us it was going to be amazing.
08:03Amazing!
08:03You will not believe it!
08:05Get ready!
08:05Let's go, bitches!
08:07What?
08:08Oh, nothing.
08:09But then, literally two hours before the dinner starts, she says, we're screwed.
08:15Do you hear me?
08:16Yes.
08:16Screwed!
08:17And somehow, again, this was our fault.
08:20Nobody wants to play in this shitty house.
08:22Nobody!
08:23Not Billy, not Cardi, definitely not Harry.
08:26They know what they're in for and they don't want it!
08:28Elliot Morgan was panicked.
08:30And it was A.B. who stepped in.
08:32It was his idea to approach Miss Minogue.
08:37And she couldn't have been more gracious.
08:41Her only ask was that she got the Lincoln Bedroom.
08:44You probably didn't know that.
08:45I did not.
08:46Of course not.
08:47You're busy being the world's greatest detective.
08:49But it is true.
08:50And I would love to just sneak upstairs and get a few hours.
08:54You want to go up to the Lincoln Bedroom now?
08:56Yes.
08:57No.
08:57Why not?
08:59It's a crime scene.
09:00The Lincoln Bedroom?
09:01I thought this guy died on the third floor.
09:03I really can't talk about the specifics.
09:05Right.
09:06But he's dead.
09:07And I was promised the Lincoln Bedroom.
09:09So you can see the problem.
09:12So Hugh wants to pop upstairs for a second and lie down.
09:15What?
09:16Hugh Jackman?
09:17Yes.
09:17No.
09:17Before you say no.
09:18No!
09:19Did he send you in here?
09:21I work for the President of the United States, Miss Minogue.
09:23I don't work for Hugh Jackman.
09:26Yes, he sent me in here.
09:27His feet are sore and tingly.
09:28Well, why doesn't he scratch them with his big fucking claws?
09:31Listen, the last place in the world I want to be is between you and Hugh Jackman.
09:37We just need to figure this out.
09:38Okay.
09:39Wait until I figure it out.
09:50Detective Cupp.
09:53Detective Cupp.
09:55Agent Park told me you went over to the Hay Adams and got snookered by a 12-year-old kid
09:59who wants a tour of the White House.
10:01Oh, not exactly what I said.
10:03Are you offering a tour?
10:04It's 4.30 in the morning, Detective Cupp.
10:06I'm sure he can wait until tomorrow.
10:08We can't keep people here all night!
10:10It hasn't been all night.
10:11We're making progress.
10:13I would go so far as to say we're almost done here.
10:15Really?
10:16No.
10:17Where's Harry Hollinger?
10:18Is he up here?
10:20Excuse me?
10:21You know, I love you, Chief, but so far you are doing a really loudly job keeping people away from
10:28me.
10:28I just spent ten minutes fending off a very drunk mayor of Canberra, who has convinced her mom did not
10:34have a stroke in her jacuzzi, but was in fact murdered by a gentleman called her by the name of
10:39Count Egos Fenstra.
10:41And she would very much like to talk to you about it.
10:45I took it all back.
10:47Thank you.
10:49I need to get something to sleep.
10:51I can't ask her.
10:51No.
10:52This is ridiculous.
10:53We promised Ms. Minogue the Lincoln bedroom.
10:56Can we just let her use it?
10:57No.
10:58I just told her that I can't have anybody going upstairs.
11:01You've been going upstairs!
11:02That's true.
11:08I need to talk to you.
11:11Okay.
11:17Have you been in room 301 tonight?
11:18I don't know what that is.
11:19There's a room across the hall from you.
11:20Whose bedroom is this?
11:21Mr. Hollinger lives in the room next to Mr. Morgan?
11:23No.
11:24And this?
11:24Is this a guest bedroom?
11:25Third floor, northeast corner.
11:26It's a bedroom.
11:28It's being renovated.
11:29So you do know it?
11:30I know there's a room across the hall from me that's being renovated.
11:33It's not being renovated.
11:33Oh, so you're talking about a different room.
11:35No.
11:35I'm saying that the room you think is being renovated is not actually being renovated.
11:39The president and Mr. Morgan asked the staff to make it look like it was being renovated
11:42because there was someone they didn't want to stay here.
11:47You didn't want my sister to stay here?
11:49What?
11:49No.
11:50Harry.
11:50That's my sister!
11:51I mean, no.
11:52It's not about her personally.
11:53Ah.
11:54Just to be clear, you haven't been in that room?
11:57No!
11:57I can't believe this.
11:59Jackie Kennedy did it.
12:01Room 301.
12:02Yes.
12:02Never been in there.
12:03Are you sure?
12:04No.
12:05Do you know what room 301 is?
12:07No.
12:07Room 301 is at the end of the hall.
12:09Let me write that down on my map.
12:13On the northeast corner.
12:14Well, that explains it.
12:16I always hang out at the southeast corner at the end of the hall.
12:19I haven't left this room in a month, Detective Cup.
12:23And the only reason I would ever leave would be if I heard my son's husband was coming for
12:28a visit.
12:28The president of the United States.
12:30Oof.
12:32Would you hand me the remote, please?
12:37I don't like watching things with birds.
12:40Birds scare me.
12:44What?
12:46Oh, God.
12:47You're one of those bird people, aren't you?
12:49You probably carry around a list of birds.
12:52Oh, look.
12:53There's a Beecher's swallow.
12:54Oh.
12:55Her.
12:56What makes you so sure, Mr. Holmes?
12:58The door was locked.
12:59Every attendant has a key.
13:00Do you consider this loud?
13:02Your voice?
13:03No.
13:03It's a little throaty for my taste, but it's not loud.
13:05The TV.
13:06TV.
13:06Oh, no.
13:07When I talked to you earlier, you said your TV was loud when you heard the thump next door.
13:12It was.
13:12Very loud.
13:13Why?
13:14You married?
13:15No.
13:16Ever married?
13:16No.
13:17You don't seem like someone who would enjoy it.
13:19Thank you.
13:20I meant that as a compliment.
13:21That's how I understood it.
13:22Why was your TV so loud?
13:23My TV was loud because I was trying to drown out the yelling in the hallway.
13:28What yelling?
13:29You're smarter than the rest of them.
13:31I am.
13:31You know it, too.
13:33I do.
13:33What yelling?
13:34It was an argument.
13:36Argument between who?
13:38A.B.
13:39And?
13:42Yelling?
13:43Who the hell said that?
13:46It was her, wasn't it?
13:48Yep.
13:49See, that's the thing with old people.
13:50They make you yell, and then you finally end up talking at a volume they can fucking hear,
13:55and then they yell at you to stop yelling.
13:56Too loud!
13:57I hate old people.
13:58We hate you, too.
14:00You didn't tell me you were fighting with A.B. and Winter tonight.
14:02Because I wasn't.
14:03What were we fighting about?
14:04We weren't fighting.
14:05I was talking to him about the plumbing.
14:08The toilet.
14:09Plumbing's fine.
14:09I don't need the details.
14:11I clogged the toilet.
14:14What time was that?
14:15I don't know.
14:15It was a process.
14:16A.B. came up here?
14:17Yeah.
14:17Why?
14:18Well, I don't know.
14:19Somebody must have called him up.
14:20How'd that go?
14:21Fine, whatever.
14:23He said he was going to call someone in, and he did.
14:26Look, I don't know what that old prune is talking about.
14:28We didn't fight.
14:29We never fought.
14:30I mean, how do you fight with A.B. Winter?
14:31You know what I mean?
14:32You just yell in his face?
14:33No.
14:33We always got along.
14:35Was that true that Tripp Morgan and A.B. Winter always got along?
14:40No.
14:40They hated each other.
14:41No.
14:42Winter didn't hate him.
14:44I wouldn't even say he didn't like him.
14:46A.B. didn't think like that.
14:47He was too much of a professional.
14:49What would you say?
14:49I would say that he was disappointed by his presence and the difficulty he created for
14:56the house.
14:56They hated each other.
14:58True.
14:59How long has Tripp Morgan been living in the White House?
15:01He was here when I got here.
15:02Nine months.
15:03Why is he here?
15:04It's his brother.
15:05What kind of question is that?
15:06Why is he here?
15:07What version do you want?
15:08I want the middle of the night.
15:10I'm trying to solve a murder and I've got the director of the FBI, the prime minister
15:13of Australia, and Kylie Minogue breathing down my neck version.
15:18You remember the campaign, right?
15:25Well, it got worse after the China debacle.
15:29Still no sign of President Morgan's younger brother, Tripp Morgan, who went missing last
15:34Friday afternoon while on a motorcycle trip through a remote region of Western Tibet.
15:39President Morgan had to use up enormous political capital with the Chinese to quietly rescue and
15:44evacuate Tripp, and he had had enough at that point.
15:47The president told Tripp he had two choices.
15:50He could come live in the White House, stay out of the news, and get his shit together.
15:53Or the president would cut him loose, and if he got in trouble with the law, he'd bring
15:57the hammer down.
15:58The choice was pretty easy.
15:59So you're saying I can stay here?
16:01Yes, right around the corner.
16:03No, no, no, no, no, no.
16:03Hold on, dude.
16:04You said this house.
16:05Yes, this house.
16:07That corner, right there.
16:08Right there.
16:11Free food?
16:12Well, I pay for the food, but...
16:14You pay for your own food?
16:16Yes, that's the way the White House works.
16:18The first family pays for their food.
16:20Lame.
16:21Anyway, free for me.
16:22Yes.
16:22I don't have to pay for shit.
16:24No.
16:24And all I have to do is...
16:26What exactly?
16:27All you have to do is not be a crazy fucking asshole.
16:29That's it.
16:32Yeah, no deal.
16:33What?
16:33No, no fucking deal, Perry.
16:35I'm not going to have my freedom taken away by you.
16:38I mean, do you even understand that concept, freedom?
16:41Do you get it?
16:42Everything okay in here?
16:43Yes, thank you.
16:46Yeah, walk away.
16:47I am.
16:48Down the ramp.
16:49Yeah, but that's where this goes.
16:50Yeah, no.
16:51You do not get to tell me what I can and cannot do.
16:55Fuck that.
16:56You've been doing this shit my whole life.
16:58Acting all better than me just because Mom decided to have you first.
17:01Okay, well, we didn't exist, right?
17:03So she didn't decide to have me instead of you.
17:06You know what?
17:06I ought to kick your fucking ass like I used to.
17:09Okay, well, you never kick my ass.
17:10Well, there's a first time for everything then.
17:12What?
17:16Damn it, Tripp.
17:20Got him.
17:22Fuck.
17:22All right.
17:23Okay, okay.
17:24Hey, dude.
17:25If that offer still stands for the room and the free food, I'll take it.
17:29Thanks, bro.
17:30Jesus Christ.
17:31Fuck, that was quick.
17:33And that was it.
17:35He moved in.
17:36Basically, so everyone could keep an eye on him.
17:38The deal was absolutely no drinking and no drugs.
17:41All other eccentricities would be tolerated.
17:43To a point.
17:44And how has that gone?
17:45From a political perspective, fine.
17:47Apparently, he doesn't leave much.
17:48He does a lot of meditation.
17:49He's writing a book on salt.
17:52Or pepper.
17:53Salt.
17:54I can't remember.
17:55Salt!
17:55But the truth is, A.B. has been, was the one who had to manage his shit, and it wasn't
18:02always easy.
18:03You have to understand, there are things you just don't do in the White House, especially
18:07when you're a guest.
18:10You don't walk around the White House in bare feet.
18:17You don't just go and hang out with the staff.
18:20Twinkies.
18:24What's up?
18:25What are you guys talking about?
18:27You don't use the White House physician who is here for the president for emergencies
18:31for your own personal shit.
18:33It's spread all over my torso, man.
18:35What is?
18:36The fucking rash!
18:37I don't see any rash.
18:39Is this the same rash you didn't have yesterday?
18:41Hey, why don't we do that thing where you draw a sharpie around to see how it's spreading?
18:44Draw a sharpie around what?
18:49I just need 100 Klonopin, Doc.
18:51Okay.
18:52But I will say, for the most part, he seemed to be doing better lately.
18:55He seemed less antagonistic and more functional.
19:00Until tonight.
19:03What happened tonight?
19:06Why didn't you invite him to the state dinner?
19:08My brother?
19:09Yes.
19:10Tripp?
19:10Yes.
19:11She needs to meet Tripp.
19:12Tell him he has to make himself available.
19:13No, no, Mr. President.
19:14I've spoken with him.
19:15You've met Tripp and you're asking why I didn't invite him to a state dinner?
19:23Anyway, it doesn't even matter why I didn't want him to go.
19:25He didn't want to go.
19:26Right?
19:27You don't want to go.
19:28To the dinner?
19:29Well, I guess I thought...
19:30A state dinner.
19:31For Australia.
19:32You got arrested in Australia.
19:34Well, I was only 19 and I wasn't actually arrested.
19:37Exactly.
19:38Honestly, bro, I was thinking it might be cool to...
19:41No, not those.
19:42Wait, what?
19:43Wait, where are you right now?
19:45Downstairs.
19:45Oh, you're just calling from the second floor?
19:47I could come down.
19:49No, no, no, no.
19:50Don't.
19:51I don't want to bother you.
19:53Oh, yeah.
19:53No, no.
19:54Totally.
19:54Anyway, you know, I was just saying I thought because Mom was from Australia and I've been feeling better.
20:00Absolutely.
20:01I just want to make sure that it was cool with you.
20:03I totally understand you not wanting to come tonight.
20:06Yep, definitely.
20:08All right, buddy, so we'll talk later.
20:09I'll send you up a plate.
20:11Cool.
20:21And he was fine with not coming.
20:23Yeah, he seemed fine to me.
20:25I want A.B. Winter up here now.
20:27He got completely fucked up.
20:29Why?
20:30Because my fucking toilet's clogged.
20:32Tripp said they didn't have a fight.
20:33Yeah.
20:34They had a fight.
20:34I had to take a shit.
20:38Okay?
20:39This is what human beings do, dude, okay?
20:42We shit.
20:43You are old man robot from Planet Usher, so maybe that isn't familiar to you.
20:55I think I might want to amend my answer from before slightly.
21:00Did things get a little heated?
21:03Yeah.
21:04Okay.
21:04Yeah.
21:05A little bit.
21:05You're taking things from the house.
21:07I'm not taking anything from the house.
21:08What are you talking about?
21:09Where'd you get that lamp?
21:11From the red room, which is in the house.
21:13You can't take things from other rooms and bring them in here.
21:16Why not?
21:17Because you can't.
21:17I paid taxes, too.
21:19When was the last time you paid tax?
21:21It's one lamp.
21:22You have robes.
21:23Robe.
21:24One robe.
21:25It's not one robe.
21:28Would you prefer I not use a robe?
21:31That's not the only other choice.
21:33You have pillows, pens, salt shakers.
21:37Hey, I'm a simile-yay.
21:39Listen, what I have here are things that are essential for life, okay?
21:42That's it.
21:44Electricity, clothing, salt.
21:46What, do you want me to get scurvy?
21:47Eating salt has nothing to do with scurvy.
21:49Oh, okay.
21:50Maybe you should write the book.
21:52Look, you can get mad all you want, but I'm not taking anything important.
22:04I have to tell your brother.
22:07I don't care.
22:08You think I give a shit?
22:09I'll tell him myself.
22:10Ooh, you want my brother to know I have a bust of Alexander Hamilton up here?
22:13It's not Hamilton.
22:15Really?
22:15It's Abraham Lincoln!
22:18Can I tell you something off the record?
22:20No.
22:20Off the record?
22:22No.
22:22My brother didn't like Hamilton the musical.
22:26Okay.
22:26You know those people that are like, I'm not really a theater person, but they go and they
22:29love it?
22:30Well, he went, and he didn't love it.
22:35Do it that what you will.
22:36I'm not going to do anything with it.
22:38That's why I brought the Hamilton bust up to my room to piss my brother off, you see?
22:41No, I don't see.
22:43It's not Hamilton, and if your brother doesn't like Hamilton, why does it piss him off to have
22:46it up here?
22:48That's what A.B. said.
22:49I'll call him and tell him.
22:51Huh?
22:51Yeah, I'll tell him.
22:52And I'll also tell him I took the most epic shit of my life up here.
22:59Hey, man, please don't tell my brother.
23:01I'm begging you.
23:02All right, I'll return everything.
23:03Every last fucking thing I took, I'll return it.
23:06And I'll stay in my room from now on, I swear to God.
23:08I'll even shit outside in the yard.
23:10Just tell me where.
23:14Dude, if you tell my brother about any of this, I'm fucking done.
23:18I'm out of here.
23:18Like, my life is over.
23:20I know you see someone who has it all, who's going to make it.
23:23Dude, I'm not going to fucking make it.
23:26I didn't get dealt what he did.
23:27I didn't do well in school.
23:29He got the work hard gene.
23:31I didn't get that fucking shit.
23:33True story.
23:34In high school, I had a paper due.
23:36My mom goes into Perry's room, grabs one of his papers, and tells me to copy it.
23:41So I literally copied the whole thing in my own fucking handwriting.
23:45It wasn't even on the same topic.
23:46She's like, well, we'll just go with that.
23:48I got a fucking A, dude.
23:50Copying Perry's paper.
23:53My parents encouraged me to get into video games and drugs.
23:57It'll give you some direction, they said.
23:59Oh, we had a dog, right?
24:01Couldn't stand me.
24:02Bit me at least a dozen times.
24:03You know what my mom did?
24:04She went back to the same breeder and got another dog.
24:07Oh, and that one time I asked my dad if he loves me as much as my brother,
24:11he was like, of course, more, so much more.
24:14He had his fucking eyes closed, dude.
24:16He thought I was Perry.
24:22Look, I'm sorry, dude.
24:23I fucked up here.
24:24Like, I get it.
24:24I fucked up.
24:26I've fucked up a lot.
24:28I honestly don't know what's wrong with me.
24:32Is there something wrong with me?
24:38I was a boy.
24:40I just wanted to be a boy.
24:43I was a boy.
24:45You know, and I have that asshole next to me.
24:48And all these people yelling at me all the time.
24:51Be better.
24:52Do more.
24:53Be great.
24:53I'm not fucking great.
24:56Isn't it okay to not be great at something?
25:00At anything?
25:02You know, isn't it okay to just be who you are?
25:13I'm sending up an engineer to fix the toilet.
25:17Thank you.
25:18And I'm going to talk to your brother in the morning.
25:29It was loud.
25:42Yeah.
25:43Okay.
25:44Yeah.
25:44I lost it.
25:45I got mad.
25:46It was a fight.
25:47All right.
25:48I admit it.
25:48All of it.
25:49Okay?
25:50That's the truth.
25:51That's it.
25:58What's going on here?
26:02Holy shit.
26:03Do you think I have something to do with this?
26:05With what happened to AB?
26:10No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
26:11Yeah, I got mad.
26:12I yelled.
26:13I lost my shit.
26:14But you can't do this.
26:15I'll call my fucking brother.
26:21Okay.
26:22All right.
26:22You know what?
26:23Look, this thing that happened with AB, this fight, it happened way before he was killed.
26:27You know what time he was killed?
26:28No, no, no.
26:29I'm not saying that.
26:31I'm saying when I saw him in the game room when Miss Cox was screaming.
26:34Have you ever been inside room 301?
26:36What's 301?
26:37Right there.
26:37Right around the corner of the northeast corner.
26:40Northeast?
26:40I don't know where the fuck I am, lady.
26:43I'm here.
26:44You know what I'm saying?
26:46I go to the solarium sometimes, the game room.
26:48I used to.
26:49Not anymore.
26:49I mean, the music room.
26:51Sometimes I'll go down there and jam a little on my uke.
26:53Have you been in room 301 tonight?
26:55No, I haven't been to 301.
26:57I just told you that.
26:58I haven't gone anywhere.
26:59I've been right fucking here.
27:00Can anybody vouch for that?
27:03Yes.
27:06The dude who came up to look at the toilet earlier.
27:08The engineer.
27:09I don't remember his name, but he was up here.
27:12He saw me.
27:13I didn't see him.
27:14At all.
27:15Well, I saw him when I first got there.
27:17That was kind of unforgettable.
27:20I went up to the third floor around nine, something like that.
27:23I knocked quite a few times.
27:25I called out engineer, like we do.
27:27And when I didn't hear anything, I opened the door with my key.
27:31And he started pushing back.
27:35Yo, dude, who the fuck are you?
27:37What the fuck is wrong with you?
27:38God damn it!
27:41Well, not exactly like I remember it.
27:44You stop that!
27:46What the fuck, dude?
27:47I'm here to fix the toilet.
27:49I don't know who the fuck you are, man.
27:50You could have been breaking in.
27:51Breaking into the White House?
27:53Uh, yeah.
27:54Dude, you ever hear of Watergate?
27:59I think it's clogged, man, but be careful, dude,
28:02because that shit is gnarly.
28:04I went into the bathroom and I got to work.
28:06Nine hundred fucking robes, man.
28:08He was talking for a while, ranting about this and that.
28:11I didn't know what the fuck he was saying.
28:12Of course I'm going to take some fucking salt shakers.
28:14You know what I mean?
28:16At some point, I realized I hadn't heard him in a while.
28:18I figured he'd passed out.
28:20But when I came back out, he was gone.
28:23What time is that?
28:24Nine-thirty, maybe?
28:27I never left, okay?
28:29I'm telling you.
28:30And if you want to take a look at somebody,
28:32take a look at that fucking wacko engineer.
28:34The dude wouldn't shut the fuck up about Winter.
28:37He kept mumbling about how pissed off he was,
28:39how he was dragged in on his son's birthday,
28:41and Winter's always pulling the shit with him.
28:44I'm a fucking plumber.
28:44I'm an engineer.
28:45I mean, I got so sick of listening to it,
28:47I had to leave the room.
28:48So you did leave the room?
28:52Just right here, though?
28:54To the, just the hallway.
28:55That's it.
28:56Right here.
28:56Right here.
28:57Yeah, I came out of the room and just stood here.
29:01Like, did not move.
29:04Just frozen.
29:16I did go downstairs for a minute
29:18to grab some desserts.
29:20Just grab a few of these.
29:22But, I mean, come on.
29:23Did you see those things?
29:24They're pretty fucking rad.
29:27Yeah, I snagged a couple extra if you guys are hungry.
29:31So I was, I was downstairs,
29:34I grabbed a few desserts,
29:35and I was back in my room here.
29:37That's it.
29:38I swear, I did not leave.
29:41You have to believe me.
29:46Why would I kill A.B. Winter?
29:49Because that's a question you can never answer.
29:52Because he was going to tell your brother
29:54about all the trouble you were causing,
29:55and you knew your brother wouldn't stand for it,
29:57and you'd be out on your own.
29:58Your life would be ruined.
29:59That's literally what you just said.
30:05Okay, yeah, that's, that's, that, that, that's an answer.
30:07Yeah, that's pretty good.
30:09You're good.
30:10Yeah, I get it.
30:12But I'm not a killer.
30:14And, and you know how I know,
30:16you know, I didn't do this?
30:19Hmm?
30:21Because I'm a fucking idiot.
30:23Okay?
30:25I'm too stupid and too fucked up to do this.
30:28And you know it.
30:32Yeah, see?
30:34I win because I'm a complete fucking loser.
30:38Oh, man, this fucking watch.
30:40I've been having so many problems with it lately.
30:43What did you see?
30:44A flashing red light.
30:45Where?
30:45In the window.
30:46Which window?
30:47Room 301.
30:47I was going to go with the Apple watch,
30:49but I just don't trust Apple ever since Steve died.
30:52You know?
30:54Not sold on that Tim Cook dude at all.
30:57like, you know.
30:59Trip Morgan?
31:00Yes.
31:01With the robe?
31:02Yes.
31:02And the feet?
31:03Uh-huh.
31:06That's the president's brother.
31:07I am aware of this.
31:08You think that-
31:09Uh-huh.
31:09No.
31:10Don't do that.
31:11I don't know.
31:13I don't know.
31:16We need to talk to the president.
31:19What?
31:20We've got a situation downstairs.
31:22I love saying that.
31:23It just feels like we're in the shit right now, you know?
31:27They're demanding to be let in.
31:28You mean they're demanding to be let out?
31:30No, in.
31:31They want to go into the party.
31:32Out of the room, into the party.
31:35Who?
31:40Valentina Mota.
31:41This is my husband, Lorenzo.
31:43We need to get out of here.
31:45Who are you?
31:45Valentina Mota.
31:46This is my husband, Lorenzo.
31:48I know.
31:48I got the names.
31:48What are you doing down here?
31:49Please say your name.
31:50Liz Hollenbeck, Washington Post.
31:53Valentina and Lorenzo Mota were two Washington socialites
31:57who arrived at the east entrance a little after 6.15,
32:00mingled with the other guests in the reception area,
32:04and then met the president in the receiving line,
32:09and then tried to leave the party early.
32:13Why?
32:14Why?
32:15Because they weren't actually invited to the state dinner.
32:17These were not people the Morgans would socialize with.
32:21There's a little bit of a snuck.
32:23It turns out that they had snuck into the White House.
32:27We demand to be let out of here.
32:30They took my phone, which is against the Constitution.
32:33When I saw them, I immediately knew something was wrong.
32:36Someone crashed the party.
32:38Two people crashed the party.
32:42I told Lily Schumacher.
32:46And me.
32:47You told me.
32:49I just missed it.
32:50In my defense, I was also told that the First Lady of Australia
32:54was going into anaphylactic shock,
32:55a Secret Service van had crashed into the south gate of the White House,
32:59and that there were three people working here named George McCutcheon.
33:03It's hard to keep track of everything.
33:06This was a catastrophic security failure,
33:09and it set off a huge scramble.
33:12But Lily just walked away from it,
33:14like it had nothing to do with her.
33:16Hollinger wanted them out of the house immediately,
33:18but A.B. insisted they be held until the evening was finished,
33:22which was consistent with security protocol.
33:24Nobody leaves the White House before the end of the evening.
33:27He wouldn't yield.
33:29I've never seen him so stubborn about anything.
33:30And they've been in this room the whole night?
33:32Yes.
33:34The upper basement, carpenter's shop, paint shop, chocolate shop.
33:39Sorry, did you get my phone?
33:41Working on it.
33:42And nobody thought to raise it again.
33:43Nobody really knew.
33:44It was just Winter and Lily and Hollinger and the Secret Service.
33:47That doesn't seem like nobody.
33:48When I said it just now, it did sound like a lot of people.
33:52I'm going to need a background check on the motos right now,
33:55and I want a thorough check of everyone upstairs here against the guest list.
33:58Match every last person with someone on the list.
34:00And the footage you have of everyone entering the party.
34:03Are there any other uninvited guests here?
34:08If Lily didn't care, and Hollinger wanted them out,
34:11why was it so important to Winter to keep the motos here?
34:14It was security protocol.
34:15Yes.
34:16Okay, but...
34:21A.B. thought he was being set up.
34:23Set up?
34:24Encouraged to break protocol and then be hung out to drive for it.
34:28Maybe even lose his job.
34:29Why would somebody do that?
34:30Set up by who?
34:34Harry Hollinger.
34:36A.B. Winter and Harry Hollinger were not in a good place tonight, Detective Cup.
34:42A.B. didn't trust Harry.
34:45There's something I should have told you about Harry and A.B.
34:53The day before the state dinner,
34:55A.B. went up to the second floor to tell a group of men
34:57who had gathered to meet with the president
34:59that the president was going to be running late.
35:01This was in the treaty room.
35:08Harry Hollinger, Oliver Root...
35:11Director of the CIA?
35:12Yes.
35:12And Walpole Bing.
35:14The Australian industrialist.
35:16Exactly.
35:17And one of Harry Hollinger's best friends, apparently.
35:21Harry Hollinger and Walpole Bing went to boarding school together.
35:26Walpole is super rich in all kinds of weird shit.
35:30And backs Prime Minister Roos.
35:32Even though most people who back Roos can't stand Walpole Bing.
35:35Including me.
35:37I don't know how to describe him.
35:39That was pretty good.
35:40What do you ask?
35:41Just curious.
35:42Nobody is just curious.
35:44Especially you.
35:46If you think Walpole Bing has something to do with this,
35:49that changes the dynamic here.
35:51Do you think Bing has something to do with this?
35:54I have no reason to think that.
35:57A.B. went into the room,
35:59slipped in quietly,
36:00and waited for an opportunity
36:01to tell them about the president running late.
36:03But what is illegal...
36:05That's how you do things.
36:06You don't interrupt.
36:07You wait.
36:08But these guys were so intense in their discussion,
36:10they didn't see A.B. for a while.
36:12Well, actually, it is no...
36:13At some point, Mr. Bing looked up,
36:16and when he realized Winter was standing there
36:18and that he may have been standing there for a while,
36:20he panicked,
36:21blew up at Winter,
36:22and accused him of spying.
36:24Told him to...
36:25Get the fuck out!
36:29Hollinger chased Winter back to the usher's office.
36:33What the hell were you doing in there, A.B.?
36:36I just came to tell you the president was running late.
36:38Well, you didn't tell us that the president was running late.
36:42Listen to me very carefully, okay?
36:44You did not hear anything that was said in that room.
36:47That is true.
36:48I did not hear anything that was said in that room.
36:50God damn it.
36:51You understand what I'm saying.
36:53Do you understand what I'm saying?
36:54I didn't hear any of it.
36:56I literally didn't hear it.
36:58Now, here is what is very important for you to understand, Miss Cup.
37:01When we're in a room, the White House staff,
37:04we don't listen to what is being said.
37:05I understand.
37:06Nothing.
37:07I can't tell you how many rooms I've been in
37:09where I know sensitive things are being discussed,
37:11and I literally have no idea what is being talked about.
37:15Let's say you want to ask me about something they're talking about.
37:18I could not tell you.
37:20It's like we're in a fugue state.
37:22There was a butler here for a long time, Pierce.
37:24He used to say hypnosis couldn't get it out of him.
37:27Somebody in the world knew this was coming, and he tells them.
37:30You know what they said?
37:31What would you like for dinner, Mr. President?
37:33It just ain't in there.
37:36I have no idea what you were talking about, and I don't care.
37:39But I do care about the way you're talking to me now
37:43and what you're insinuating.
37:48I apologize for any misunderstanding, Mr. Hollinger.
37:54I should have dealt with that better.
37:57If you'd like me to reassure Mr. Bing, or Mr. Root, or talk to the president directly,
38:02I am, of course, happy to do it.
38:08Keep your fucking mouth shut.
38:22I found A.B. in his office a little while later, just kind of staring off into space.
38:26He told me what happened.
38:28He's not an emotional person.
38:30He was pretty sealed off.
38:32But I was fucking pissed.
38:36It was so unfair.
38:38And it came after so much shit with these guys.
38:41Not the Morgans so much, but the people around them.
38:43I said we should go talk to someone.
38:45This wasn't acceptable.
38:47Did A.B. say if he was going to do anything?
38:48Nothing.
38:49And I honestly couldn't even tell you what his reaction was.
38:52He looked...
38:55tired.
38:57Does Harry Hollinger know you know about this?
39:06He knew.
39:09Harry Hollinger?
39:10Yes.
39:11Not Tripp Morgan.
39:12I'm not saying not Tripp Morgan, I'm saying now I'm hearing about Harry Hollinger.
39:15Because you were just in here telling me about Tripp Morgan and the flashing red light,
39:20which puts him in the window in the room where we have blood.
39:22I am aware of this, and before that I was telling you about David Rylance and Didier Guttard
39:26and Marvella and Sheila Cannon.
39:28He isn't here anymore.
39:30These are the pieces I'm trying to put together.
39:35Tripp Morgan, Harry Hollinger.
39:38You are flying very close to the sun here, Cordelia.
39:41You know, it means I'm getting warm, right?
39:43Okay.
39:45Run this back for me.
39:51Harry Hollinger, the president's best friend and closest advisor,
39:56has a meeting in the treaty room with the director of the CIA and Walpole Bing
40:01on the day before the state dinner.
40:03And they're talking about something sensitive.
40:06A.B.
40:06Winter enters the room to do his job, and he's accused of spying on this meeting.
40:11Harry Hollinger chases him down the hallway after Bing tells him to get the fuck out,
40:16and tells him that he didn't hear any of that.
40:18Actually says, keep your fucking mouth shut.
40:21Now, here's where it gets really interesting.
40:24The next day, Carpenter Eddie Gomez reports hearing Winter in his office.
40:28He started yelling, I'm going to tell them everything.
40:30Gomez also reports seeing Harry Hollinger...
40:34I ran downstairs.
40:35...coming down the stairs from Winter's office just seconds later.
40:39And Mr. Hollinger was right behind me.
40:42You see what I'm saying?
40:44I do.
40:45Raleigh Bridgewater told me Hollinger was...
40:47He's gone for 22 minutes.
40:48...right around the time we know that Winter died.
40:51And after Winter was found dead,
40:53Harry Hollinger was the one who wanted to call this a suicide as quickly as possible.
40:58It's a suicide.
40:59And do not forget...
41:00And I do not forget...
41:02...that when I went in to search A.B. Winter's office...
41:04What are you doing in here?
41:05There was Harry Hollinger.
41:07Looking for political documents.
41:14Do you have a question, Senator Bix?
41:18Do I have a question?
41:20Oh, yes.
41:22I have a lot of questions, Mr. Chairman.
41:25And I have been waiting a long time to ask these questions.
41:30Why was Harry Hollinger looking for political documents?
41:34What did Harry Hollinger think Mr. Winter had heard?
41:37And why was he so angry about it?
41:39Where was Harry Hollinger for the 22 minutes he left the East Room?
41:44Why was Harry Hollinger so eager to call this a suicide and get Detective Cupp off this case?
41:51But here's the question I have right now.
41:55The question that has been hanging over these entire hearings.
42:00The question I have every time someone sits at that witness table and tells us about what happened the night
42:07A.B. Winter was murdered.
42:12The question that begs so many other questions.
42:17Here is my question, Mr. Chairman.
42:20Where is Cordelia Cupp?
42:52The question I have no question.
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