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15:13Hey, what was that audio file you had Morales looking into a few weeks back?
15:17Audio file?
15:19Yeah.
15:23Um, that was, that was a lead I was following up on the Jenna Wells case.
15:27Turns out it was a dead end, so.
15:30Did Morales tell you about that?
15:32No.
15:33No, I just saw her renting it and I was going to ask you about it, but she didn't tell
15:37me what it was about.
15:38Okay.
15:39That's nothing.
15:42Hey.
15:44Erickson just landed.
15:45All right.
15:47Looks like you're up.
15:48I'm up.
15:56Dr. Erickson, my name is Special Agent Rebecca Anderson.
15:59Um, please, right this way.
16:01I know who you are and what happened to you.
16:05All right, well, the reason for my suspension from the FBI is not the topic of conversation for today.
16:09I was referring to the reasons you joined the FBI.
16:11I remember reading the Eli Johnson case.
16:14You were just a girl, but I shouldn't be surprised you wound up here.
16:19Trauma is cyclical.
16:22Let's talk about Amanda Weiss.
16:30Cameras are off.
16:33It's just you and me.
16:35Can I grab you a coffee?
16:37Black.
16:39Amanda's still alive then.
16:41And I assume you and your friends must be part of the recovery effort?
16:47We are the recovery effort.
16:50Which is why we need your help.
16:55Let's talk about your sessions at the pit with Amanda.
16:59I was told I would never have to answer questions for the work I did down there.
17:04Unfortunately, that was before the blast and before Amanda decided to kill someone at 144 Elmway in Covington.
17:11Rick Howell?
17:13Well, that's very unfortunate.
17:18There's another innocent life at stake, too.
17:21We believe Amanda abducted her.
17:25Remind you of anyone in Amanda's life?
17:28Okay.
17:30Transference is the most powerful psychological tool in the human psyche.
17:36How did Amanda do it?
17:38I think the better question is how Amanda had your home address in her back pocket.
17:44I don't know.
17:46Google?
17:50You know, I saw your last session with Amanda.
17:54You quit.
17:55I was frustrated.
17:57So much work.
17:58And Amanda still wasn't responding.
18:03Dr. Erickson, you were summa cum laude at Harvard.
18:06You finished your PhD at Oxford four years later.
18:08You have over 212 academic papers published.
18:12You don't quit.
18:13You don't lose.
18:14I don't even think you know how.
18:17You're enjoying this.
18:18You're antagonizing me.
18:19Why do you think that is?
18:23Because I don't think that you stopped treating Amanda.
18:26I think you switched tactics.
18:30It was clear that Amanda would never trust me.
18:34An authority figure.
18:36Much like her mother.
18:38So I tried something.
18:41Out of the box.
18:43How does that feel?
18:44Is that better?
18:45A new theoretical protocol called mutual stress-related attachment.
18:50You're okay.
18:51Wasn't that just a fancy way of saying trauma bonding?
18:54Call it what you want.
18:55It worked.
19:04The only person Amanda ever found a true emotional attachment to was her sister, Lucy.
19:11So we took an inmate, just like Lucy, and got her to lure Amanda out of her shell.
19:16I'm sorry.
19:17You let her interact with another inmate.
19:19Her name was Alice.
19:20She was a serial killer, much like Mel Gunness, but, you know, also an addict.
19:26Alice was the only person that we knew Amanda could bond with, especially given the traumatic circumstances of the pit.
19:35So we put Alice in the cell next to Amanda.
19:38How did they communicate?
19:40While tapping.
19:41It's common amongst inmates, you know.
19:55We discovered Amanda had learned it before she was transferred to the pit.
20:00Within days, they were fluent with each other.
20:08Amanda shared everything with Alice.
20:11She was the key to unlocking Amanda's psychology.
20:22Except that Alice didn't exist, did she?
20:25You played that part.
20:27Amanda never laid eyes on Alice because you were the one knocking on either side of the wall, weren't you?
20:32That's how she had your home address in Covington.
20:35You used parts of your real life to create Alice, no?
20:39Yeah.
20:40The truth is always the easiest to remember.
20:42Except that the truth just killed an innocent man, and when Amanda couldn't find Alice, she decided to recreate the
20:48situation by kidnapping another woman.
20:50As you said, trauma is cyclical, right?
20:52She wasn't supposed to escape.
20:55The man who took us.
20:57Do you see him?
21:01I saw his face.
21:04I fought back when he grabbed me.
21:06I didn't even see him.
21:07I just woke up here.
21:12I'm so sorry you're going through this.
21:16But I'm happy I'm not alone.
21:25Very impressive, Agent Henderson.
21:28You're smarter than you look.
21:29Thank you, I get that a lot.
21:30So since you know Amanda so well, where might she be?
21:32Well, if she's still looking for Alice, I imagine she'd go to the Cumberland Mountains.
21:38Why is that?
21:40Amanda and Alice daydreamed about escaping together and retreating up to one of the many cabins in that area.
21:47It's peaceful.
21:48Idyllic.
21:49Alice's family summered there when she was a child.
21:52No, actually, your family summered there.
21:54Which cabin?
21:58Is he going to kill us?
22:01When is he going to come back?
22:03I've been here for days.
22:05I know how it goes.
22:07Trust me.
22:09What's he like?
22:12He doesn't like it when you fight back.
22:15So it's best to keep quiet.
22:17Hey.
22:18Hey.
22:19Come here.
22:20Come here.
22:21It's okay.
22:21We have each other.
22:22We're not alone.
22:28There's a nail coming out of the floorboard.
22:30What?
22:31If I can get it, I can get us out of here.
22:33No, no, no.
22:33I don't think we should be doing this.
22:35What if he sees?
22:35If we stay here, we'll die.
22:37Don't.
22:40Where are you going?
22:42I see a road.
22:43Then we can get there.
22:44Then we can flag somebody down.
22:45No, no, no, no.
22:46What if it's him?
22:47If we run towards the wrong car, we're done.
22:48We have to stay together out here somewhere.
22:50Hey.
22:50Hey, it's all right.
22:52We're going to make it.
22:54We have to try.
22:55Just come on.
22:56Come on.
22:56I'm not going to leave you.
23:00What is it?
23:03You weren't supposed to leave the cabin.
23:20I can't breathe.
23:32Guys, the Cumberland Mountains cover thousands of acres of remote wilderness, and there are hundreds of cabins.
23:40Erickson's family rented dozens of cabins over the years.
23:42Amanda could be keeping Tiffany at any one of them.
23:45Needles and haystacks.
23:46All these hills and hollers make a drone useless.
23:49We are going to find her.
23:50We are going to find her.
24:07Nobody knows where you are, Tiffany.
24:10Nobody even knows you're gone.
24:12You realize that, right?
24:13You realize that, right?
24:15I know.
24:17I've been watching you.
24:19So I know that you don't have anyone.
24:22But it's okay.
24:23It's okay because I know how that feels.
24:26And it's awful.
24:27But you don't have to be alone.
24:29We don't have to be alone.
24:31We have each other now.
24:33And that's all we need to be happy.
24:35That's why I brought us here.
24:38So we could depend on each other.
24:41Like real sisters do.
24:45Do we have a deal?
24:47Okay, okay.
24:49I get it.
24:49I get it.
24:50I get it.
24:50You need time.
24:53You'll see.
24:55The pain only brings us closer.
24:57And no matter what,
25:00I'll take care.
25:06If a man is camping out there,
25:07she would have stopped in town for supplies,
25:09gear,
25:10water.
25:12Middlesbrough,
25:13a small town at the base of the mountains.
25:14Smart thinking, Florence.
25:17All right.
25:18Looks like we're doing an old-fashioned canvas.
25:32Hi there.
25:33You were out quite a while.
25:35Oh, no, no, no.
25:37No, shh, shh, shh, shh.
25:40Don't worry.
25:41You're okay.
25:42I promise.
25:44We are going to be so happy together.
25:46Yeah.
25:51Yeah.
25:53Okay.
25:56Relax.
25:57Okay?
25:59Try to get some rest.
26:05Your ankle must be hurting.
26:08Ow!
26:08But I'll take care of you.
26:14My heart is racing.
26:15I need my pills.
26:17No, no, no.
26:17You can't take anything,
26:19you silly squirrel.
26:19You're in recovery.
26:21No, not drugs.
26:23I have a heart murmur.
26:25I need my medicine.
26:28Please.
26:28If I don't have my pills,
26:30I'll die.
26:41No one recognizes Amanda's photo.
26:43Yeah, same.
26:45Apparently, we're the only strangers
26:46that come through town recently.
26:48Get the feeling a place like this
26:50does not love the government's turn of the pot.
26:53Guys, I got her.
26:54Pharmacy, north end of town.
26:58Is she alone?
27:01Yeah, I think so.
27:03Shane, grab her.
27:04We're on our way.
27:11She's talking to the pharmacist.
27:12Wait, no.
27:13Shane, stop.
27:15We still don't know
27:16where she's holding Tiffany.
27:17We don't even know
27:18if Tiffany is still alive.
27:20She's alive.
27:21But given how she's stonewalled Erickson,
27:22if we grab her now,
27:23she's not going to give us anything.
27:24Well, if we try to follow her
27:25in our vehicle,
27:26she'll make us for sure.
27:31I got a plan.
27:42Don't move.
27:43Don't move.
27:44Let me go.
27:45Are you working with the fence?
27:47What?
27:47What are you talking about?
27:48A pit.
27:49Right there.
27:50Right there.
27:52Are you working with them?
27:53No.
27:54No, I'm not.
27:55You've got to swear to me.
27:55I swear.
28:01Who are you?
28:03It's me.
28:04It's Alice.
28:09But where have you been?
28:11I will explain everything.
28:12I promise.
28:12But right now,
28:13we've got to go.
28:13Unless you want to get dragged
28:14back to the pit.
28:17I knew you'd remember the mountains.
28:22I found us the perfect place.
28:48Got him.
28:49Moving east out of town.
28:50Copy.
28:51With a visual,
28:51they're heading into the mountains.
28:52Amanda's already made our SUV,
28:54so we're going to have to hang way back.
28:55Okay.
28:56Give them space.
28:57We're tracking from our end.
29:09Okay.
29:09I don't see them anymore.
29:11I think we're good.
29:13What happened to you?
29:15I went to your family's place.
29:20On Elmway?
29:22Are my parents still there?
29:24No.
29:26I just thought you'd go there.
29:30No, I, um,
29:32I got out of the pit
29:32and I spent a couple weeks
29:33laying low in Casper.
29:35The feds and the military
29:36were everywhere,
29:37but as soon as I could,
29:39I started hitchhiking south.
29:42I knew you'd come here, too,
29:44to be honest.
29:51What is it?
29:53Nothing.
29:55I just...
29:57I pictured you different.
30:00You're taller than I imagined.
30:06You're just saying that
30:08like as Lucy was.
30:12I really do wish
30:14that I could have met her.
30:16I think we would have been friends.
30:26Bex,
30:26I'm not sure she's behind it.
30:28Hang in there.
30:29We're about a half a mile
30:30behind you, Bex,
30:31but looking at the map,
30:32the road runs out soon,
30:33so we're going to have to hang back,
30:34but we won't be far.
30:35All right,
30:36you got this.
30:56Go ahead.
30:56You know the way.
30:59I'll be right behind you.
31:01I'll be right behind you.
31:27You know,
31:29I looked you up on the internet.
31:31I tried to figure out
31:33where you'd go
31:33or maybe even find out
31:36what you even look like,
31:37but there was nothing.
31:39I couldn't find a single article
31:41about you
31:42or what you did,
31:44who you murdered.
31:47Why couldn't I find you, Alice?
32:02You want to know what I found
32:03when I looked you up?
32:06You were dead.
32:07Yeah, you killed yourself in prison.
32:09I even read the note you wrote.
32:11They posted it online
32:13to convince everyone
32:13and that was the truth.
32:15Do you realize
32:16how powerful these people are?
32:21If they can kill you,
32:23they can erase me.
32:26But I killed those men.
32:28Yeah,
32:28I bashed their heads
32:29and butchered them like hogs.
32:34How does she know
32:35about butchering hogs?
32:37I remember you telling me
32:38about that guy
32:39from Minnesota.
32:43He was a funny one.
32:44Yeah, he was.
32:46What was his name again?
32:47Was it Joe or John?
32:53It was John.
32:54John.
32:55Right.
32:57Do you remember
32:57what you kept from John?
33:02Did I take something?
33:03Yeah.
33:04You told me
33:05you kept a souvenir.
33:07Do you remember
33:07what it was?
33:09Because I remember
33:10what it was.
33:25I don't remember
33:26taking anything.
33:29other than a watch.
33:42It really is you.
33:54Dr. Erikson said you
33:55modeled Alice on Bell Gunners.
33:57When they busted Gunners,
33:57they found a victim.
33:59A guy from Minnesota,
34:00John Moe.
34:01And get this,
34:02Gunners held on
34:03to his watch.
34:05Yes, Max.
34:15What do you think?
34:20This is amazing.
34:22Yeah, this is exactly
34:23like the one I went to
34:24growing up.
34:25Yeah, it's just how
34:26I imagined it
34:27from your stories.
34:27It's awesome.
34:29We'll be safe here.
34:31Together.
34:32Uh, can I get you anything?
34:35Do you want a water?
34:35Do you want some food?
34:38Um,
34:43it's just a little cold,
34:44actually.
34:45Can we put another log
34:46on the fire?
34:46You're cold?
34:47A little bit.
34:48Yeah, good idea.
34:52I'll get it going.
34:54Thank you.
35:13What are you doing?
35:19I was looking
35:19for my room.
35:21Well, you found it,
35:23but you can't go
35:23in there right now.
35:26Because why?
35:28I have to explain.
35:30Amanda,
35:31why is this door locked?
35:32Because
35:34I couldn't be alone again.
35:36Not after everything.
35:38Is there someone
35:39in this room?
35:40Yes,
35:41but she is nothing.
35:42She's nothing.
35:43She's a nobody.
35:44This is real.
35:46We are real.
35:48I'll fix it.
35:50Amanda, stop.
35:51Amanda?
35:55Whoa.
36:01I don't want to do it.
36:04For us.
36:08Come on,
36:08let me do it.
36:08Give me the gun.
36:11We'll do it together.
36:14Okay.
36:27Somebody help!
36:32Amanda, stop!
36:47What are you doing?
36:48I spy on Tiffany.
36:49She's out there
36:50wounded somewhere.
36:50I've got Amanda.
36:54I'll get Tiffany.
36:54You go to the cabin.
36:56Help!
37:03You're with them.
37:04You're with the pit.
37:06Put the gun down, Amanda.
37:07I knew something was off
37:08about you
37:08from the moment
37:09I saw you.
37:10Put the gun down!
37:12Where is Alice?
37:14Where is she?
37:15She's in custody
37:15with us.
37:18No.
37:20You're lying.
37:21She was in her cell
37:21when we found her.
37:22She was completely alone.
37:23She didn't get out
37:23after the blast.
37:25But she keeps asking
37:27about you
37:27every day.
37:33Well, then you have to
37:34let her go.
37:34I can't do that.
37:36You know I can't do that,
37:37but I can take you
37:38to her.
37:40Amanda, you guys
37:40can be together.
37:41I promise.
37:43Or we can both die
37:44right here.
37:45And that choice
37:46is yours.
37:50Don't do that to her.
37:51She misses you.
37:53Alice needs you.
37:55She really misses you.
38:00Put the gun down, Amanda.
38:08Just take me
38:09to see Alice.
38:13Help!
38:15Tiffany!
38:17Help!
38:25Oh, hey!
38:28Hey, I got you.
38:33I'm with the FBI.
38:35It's okay.
38:43Yeah.
38:44Butchered them
38:45just like the hogs?
38:46I was leaning into it.
38:47Yeah, you were.
38:48Yes, I was.
38:50Come on, you're a little
38:51bit too convincing.
38:52I think I'm not.
38:52I agree.
38:53Don't put me in the bed.
38:54Hey, uh,
38:56Amanda Weiss is
38:57en route to the
38:58new facility,
38:59and she still thinks
39:00Alice is real, so...
39:01Yeah.
39:01She's not gonna be
39:02happy with you
39:03when she finds out
39:03you lied.
39:04So long as she's
39:05behind bars,
39:05I don't care.
39:06Yeah.
39:08I'm out.
39:09No!
39:10Yep.
39:11Good job today.
39:13Bye.
39:14See you tomorrow.
39:14Thank you, boss.
39:22I've never seen you this quiet
39:25or so...
39:27I'm not serious.
39:32Okay.
39:35Sorry.
39:36Liquid courage.
39:37You need that
39:37because why?
39:41There are some things
39:43about me
39:43that you don't know
39:44that
39:46I'd like to tell you.
39:49Okay.
39:50I told you
39:51I started working
39:53at the pit
39:53to be closer to family,
39:54but that's not
39:56the whole truth.
39:58I took the job
40:01because I was looking
40:02for a prisoner
40:02down there.
40:05Who were you
40:06looking for?
40:12People are asking
40:13questions.
40:14Questions
40:15are inevitable.
40:19My biological mother.
40:25That boy's recording
40:26you asked me about,
40:27that's all I have
40:28of her.
40:29I don't even know
40:30her name.
40:31You know,
40:32I may never...
40:32Sorry,
40:32that boy's recording
40:33was your mom?
40:35What about the boy?
40:38I'll keep my promise.
40:41I just wanted
40:42to know
40:42who I am.
40:45Where I came from.
40:48and I will never
40:49lie to you again.
40:52Y'all doing okay here?
40:53Can I get to anything?
40:54No, thank you.
40:56We're fine.
40:57Appreciate it.
41:00To new beginnings?
41:01Thanks.
41:02To new beginnings.
41:31To new beginnings
41:31To new beginnings
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