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00:00Let's welcome in the Dangerous One, Daryl Ryder. Who's he brought to you by, Owen?
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00:05Thank you very much. Good morning, Dangerous One.
00:08Hello, boys.
00:09It's good to talk to you.
00:11Daryl, I want to ask you about Ty Simpson later on.
00:14Young John is licking his wounds from the previous segment there.
00:17But I want to talk to you a little bit about Rasheed Walker is still out there.
00:20Am I not mistaken? I think he still is as of this morning when I was looking at it at
00:245 a.m.
00:25Are there chances that the Browns could bring him in and stick him over at left tackle
00:29or what's going on here?
00:31Well, I think the left tackle is coming in the draft.
00:34So they've spent money on Elton Jenkins.
00:42Quincy Williams got a pretty nice deal.
00:46And then Zion Johnson, obviously, that was the big one, nearly $50 million for him.
00:54So I kind of feel like that they're going to, from a roster standpoint,
00:59roster management, financial management standpoint,
01:01I think that they will use the draft to fill that left tackle spot.
01:06Do you think that they could do that at No. 6?
01:09Or could you see maybe a trade down and then into a guy at that left tackle spot?
01:14Or what are you thinking?
01:15Yeah, I mean, yeah.
01:16I mean, I think all options are on the table right now.
01:18Now, the trick with trading down is I don't know that they're going to get a 2027 first-round pick
01:26out of that.
01:28A lot of teams right now, because of what is anticipated to be a good quarterback class,
01:33of course, we thought that this year going into this draft,
01:36and it never really materialized during the college football season.
01:39So it'll be interesting to see what ultimately they decide to do.
01:43But I kind of get the feeling that they want to use that one of their two first-round picks
01:51on an offensive lineman and then use that second one on a wide receiver.
01:55Darrell, how far back do you think they should be willing to go
01:58to get an offensive lineman in the first round if they do want to trade back from six?
02:02I kind of feel like Dallas is the threshold.
02:04They think the Cowboys have the 12th overall pick, but you'd probably –
02:09I mean, Dallas has two picks.
02:10I think it's 12 and 20.
02:13So I would – if they don't part with a 2027 first-rounder,
02:19then I'd probably ask them for both of those selections in a trade like that.
02:24But you do run the risk when you trade back.
02:27You run the risk of losing out on a player that you really, really want.
02:30So you have to be careful there.
02:33But, again, I don't think trading down would be, like,
02:38the worst idea in this particular draft.
02:41I heard Coach Lance Rison with you.
02:43I don't know how many other people did.
02:45We played some clips earlier this week.
02:47I want to know, what did you think of the acquisitions that they made
02:50across the offensive line in free agency?
02:52And, of course, the trade with Titus Howard.
02:55Yeah, I mean, I like the pickups.
02:58I don't know that they are significantly a better football team than they were last year,
03:07but Andrew Berry went out and got established players with experience that are,
03:14in my view, good players.
03:16I like Titus Howard a lot.
03:18I think that he should be able to come in here and do a pretty good job at right tackle.
03:26And then, you know, you look at it like Elton Jenkins.
03:31There's some versatility there.
03:33Now, his best years were at guard for the Packers.
03:36Those were his all-pro years.
03:37He played center last year.
03:40And the reviews there, obviously, a little mixed.
03:45Zion Johnson can move around a little bit, too.
03:49I just feel like with all these moves that Andrew Berry has done, Ken,
03:54he's got some versatility in there where if they have to move pieces and parts around up front,
04:01they should be able to do that because these guys have played multiple positions, a lot of them.
04:07We know Andrew Berry's draft strategy is different from the free agency strategy.
04:11And he said before, like, free agency's kind of holes for right now.
04:13It shouldn't necessarily affect what you do in the draft.
04:16But do you think the way that they've attacked the free agency period, Daryl,
04:19is something that maybe changes the way we should think about not necessarily finding that left tackle in the draft,
04:25but what else they could do near the top of the draft?
04:28I honestly think, Danny, that this free agency period has set up the draft.
04:33And it's been exactly, at least from my standpoint, it's been what I expected.
04:38I did not get the impression that they were going to spend big money in the wide receiver room during
04:45free agency.
04:46They spent money on the offensive line.
04:51And quite frankly, that's where they needed to spend their money in their resources right now.
04:56And then also to, you know, losing Devin Bush to the Bears in free agency.
05:02Yeah, that's tough, but I think they did a real nice job replacing him by bringing in Quincy Williams.
05:08And, you know, he got a pretty favorable contract, team-friendly contract there, only a two-year contract.
05:17So, I think Andrew Barry's done a good job this week not overspending.
05:22I know that there are some folks that think that they overspent for Zion Johnson at three years and nearly
05:29$50 million.
05:30I understand that.
05:31And, you know, Tyson Howard, after they made the trade with Houston, they agreed to a three-year contract extension
05:38with him.
05:38But, oh, you've got to spend money somewhere.
05:40And the Browns historically have been willing to make investments in their offensive line and spend money there.
05:46So, I really don't have a problem with what Barry did up front.
05:51Why should I care, Daryl, when people complain about how much money is spent on a certain guy in free
05:56agency?
05:57I just don't.
05:58I just don't.
06:00I tried.
06:00I used to try.
06:02I don't.
06:03It's like, well, and I could always use the eraser.
06:05Well, it's not my money.
06:06Well, I know that you have to pay for it eventually on all these other things.
06:09But it's like, hey, man, like, that's going right.
06:11You know, Tyler Lindenbaum sets up the market.
06:14All right, I don't know if anybody's going to be making over Tyler Lindenbaum here over the next couple of
06:17years.
06:17But, all right, some people are going to be making over Creed Humphrey, I'm sure.
06:21Like, the market's the market.
06:22You either have the player or you don't.
06:24It's a zero-sum game.
06:25No, and also, too, free agency is about overpay.
06:28Yeah.
06:29I mean, that's just what it is.
06:30That's why the draft's so damn important.
06:32Right, yeah.
06:33Yeah, I mean, the heart of your roster building is drafting and developing, and the Browns have gone from historically
06:41bad at that to now we at least get some mixed reviews.
06:44They have some hits now, and they still have their misses.
06:48But every team has hits and misses in the draft.
06:51I'm actually glad they didn't sign Tyler Lindenbaum.
06:54I can't justify spending $27 million a year on a center.
06:57I don't care if he touches the ball on every play or not.
07:00Recalls out the protections.
07:01I think that's, I mean, because of the gap.
07:04I think it's a $9 million gap now between the highest-paid center, Lindenbaum, and the second-highest-paid player.
07:11That, to me, is just, you know, that's a little bananas to me.
07:15But, I mean, good on the Las Vegas Raiders, who, by the way, had to spend this offseason.
07:21I read something that they, you know, they were falling behind as far as what their obligations were as far
07:27as the collective bargaining agreement and, you know, spending, you know, their cap allocation is 90% of the cap
07:35you have to spend over a certain number of years, and they were falling short of that.
07:38So, they had to go out and spend big money.
07:41So, I mean, God bless them for spending that much money on a center.
07:45I'm actually glad that Andrew Barry did not do that here.
07:50Joel Batonio's contract voided yesterday, Daryl, and we don't necessarily have an answer as far as what's going to happen.
07:55How do you think that situation ends up playing out?
07:57I don't think he's back, because I think if he would have been back, it would have gotten done before
08:02that contract voided.
08:04So, they could minimize that $23.5 million salary cap hit.
08:09Now, if he does come back, they get a double whammy, because they're already on the hook for that $23
08:16.5 million, and then they'd have to do something to, you know, lessen his cap impact now.
08:25So, I think, unfortunately, and also, too, with the moves that Andrew Barry made this week, Danny, I'm starting to
08:35think that Joel's not going to be back.
08:36And as far as whether or not he actually plays this season for somebody else, I don't know.
08:43But I kind of feel like that if he was going to return to the Browns, that would have gotten
08:47resolved before the contract voided.
08:50Darryl Ryder, joining us here on the show.
08:52All right.
08:53I guess I've got to ask you about Ty Simpson.
08:55I mean, we just had a whole segment about him.
08:58Actually, most of a whole segment about him.
08:59But, all right, Ty Simpson.
09:01Love Todd Munkin.
09:02What's the chances Ty Simpson were to actually end up in Cleveland?
09:06Well, I mean, they already brought him in for a top-30 visit.
09:11They did that before free agency, which I thought was interesting.
09:15And they brought in three or four guys here before free agency.
09:20I think that there's a couple of reasons for that.
09:22One, to inform them, because he is thought of as the second-best quarterback in this class.
09:28He will be the guy that goes off the board at some point after Fernando Mendoza goes No. 1 overall
09:34to Vegas.
09:36So, obviously, there's interest there.
09:40That's why they brought him in, but I also think it's a little bit of a fact-finding mission, Ken,
09:44as you know.
09:46You don't always, you know, have intentions on drafting people you bring in.
09:51Sometimes you want to create a file on them for future reference, whether it's a future trade opportunity comes up,
09:58free agency, whatever.
09:59You sit there and say, hey, you know, when we did our homework on Ty Simpson going into the draft,
10:04let's pull all that out and see if there's something in there that we need to revisit or whatnot.
10:10But, you know, I don't know what Andrew Barry's plans would be there.
10:17I would be absolutely flabbergasted if they drafted him six overall.
10:22I think one of the mock drafters did that where they had him six overall.
10:27And I think that's a little much, maybe at 24, but I just, I really feel like this is not
10:37the year to spend a first-round draft pick on a quarterback.
10:41They should be looking to do that next year.
10:43I was going to ask, Daryl, like, why is it not worth investing in Ty Simpson at 24?
10:47And we do this every year, where next year's draft class looks great, and this year's draft class was supposed
10:53to look great,
10:54and now you've got Fernando Mendoza and a bunch of other guys that I don't know that necessarily anybody else
10:58wants,
10:59and there's no promising that Julian Sane or C.J. Carr or Dante Moore or Arch Manning is going to
11:04be the next guy next year.
11:05But on paper, that looks great.
11:07But why is it not worth investing in a quarterback in the first round or even in the second round
11:11in this year's draft?
11:12Well, it just, it comes down to if you make that pick at 24, Danny, then you are basically moving
11:18on from Shadour Sanders as your starter.
11:22And he jumps basically to the front of the line and becomes your number one investment in that room.
11:29And quite frankly, I just, I don't know that Ty Simpson's worth that.
11:33You know, they already have two projects in that room right now, and that's Shadour Sanders and Dylan Gabriel.
11:40It remains to be seen if one or both make it to September on this roster.
11:46But yeah, if they do draft Ty Simpson, that basically signals, okay, we as an organization,
11:53maybe not so much moving on from Shadour, but they're saying, okay, Shadour cannot do this,
11:57and, you know, we're going to invest our resources into Ty Simpson here.
12:05And again, I just, I'm not sold that that's the right move there.
12:09Darryl Ryder joining us here on the show.
12:11Did you want to ask the other question?
12:12Go ahead and ask him the question you wanted to ask.
12:15If Andrew Barry would have done what Ernie DaCosta did this past week,
12:19where they go back on the trade for Max Crosby after agreeing to it and cancel it at the last
12:24minute,
12:25how would you think of Andrew Barry?
12:28Well, objectively, I think the Baltimore Ravens did what they felt was in the best interest of their franchise.
12:34Now, was it a little shady and underhanded?
12:37In my view, 100% absolutely.
12:40But they didn't do anything illegal.
12:43Maybe they broke some unwritten rules or whatnot,
12:46but because, you know, everyone knew Max Crosby had surgery in January.
12:51It's not like this came out of nowhere.
12:53I mean, there were articles written about it.
12:55He has had, you know, some injury issues here in the recent past.
13:04But also, too, they ended up with a player that, you know, has comparable production
13:08and will cost them $7-8 million less a year.
13:12So, you know, they did what they felt.
13:15And the irony here, by the way, is Sashi Brown is the team president.
13:20Remember, he killed that Hugh Jackson trade with the Cincinnati Bengals, too.
13:24So, you know, I don't know if he was involved in killing this trade.
13:28But I know around the league this is not thought of very well.
13:32And we all know if the Browns did something like this.
13:35I mean, there'd be 24-7, 365 coverage everywhere about what a scumbag Andrew Barry is for doing that
13:41because it's the Browns, right?
13:44The Ravens obviously have a little more, I think, latitude, if you will, when it comes to the national media
13:51because they've won a couple of Super Bowl trophies and they've been a consistent winner there down in Baltimore.
13:56But I do feel like if Andrew Barry had done this, he would just be getting torn apart still.
14:03I kind of feel like this is going to be forgotten here in a couple of days,
14:07whereas if it were the Browns, it'd be a nonstop story.
14:10Daryl, thank you for the hot times.
14:11All the very best to you and yours.
14:12We'll talk to you next week, buddy.
14:13You bet, guys.
14:14Have a great weekend.
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