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00:00Would you trade Kyle Shanahan for anyone?
00:04I made this statement earlier this year.
00:07I stand by it.
00:08It's been a fascinating day listening to the shows talk a little bit about Kyle.
00:13I didn't catch a lot of what was originally said.
00:17Did Shasky today say that they'd need to give him a contract extension
00:21or something like that?
00:23And then Steini and Goo were talking about it.
00:25Guru, lifetime deal, or five-year extension, run him through 2030.
00:30Steini was kind of like, I don't know why you would do that.
00:32You don't have to do that.
00:34I'm less about when that needs to happen or whatever.
00:38I'm not thinking contract right now.
00:41I'm just thinking as a fan.
00:43And you all know that I've been a Shanahan fan for a very, very long time.
00:48I'm on a victory lap this year because he's having a hell of a year.
00:51He's going to get coach of the year votes.
00:53He won't win, but he's going to be on that list, short list, probably top five.
00:58And I would love to hear where people are at on this.
01:01I would trade Kyle Shanahan for no one.
01:04And by no one, you mean no coach or no player, no anybody?
01:08No coach.
01:10No coach.
01:11If you asked me, 49er fan, you could swap Kyle out for any other coach in America right now.
01:19You can go Andy Reid.
01:21You can go McVay.
01:24You can go Vrabel.
01:26You could do Tomlin.
01:29Sirianni.
01:30Whatever name you want, my answer is no.
01:35No.
01:36I would like to hold.
01:39That's it.
01:40I would trade him for no one.
01:42But I wonder, I know that most 49er fans, especially this year, you're going to think,
01:46oh, he's a really good coach and we're happy with him.
01:49But do you feel that way?
01:51Would you trade him for anyone?
01:53Like any coach?
01:54Any coach.
01:55I mean, you had me thinking about any player.
01:57And the first name I thought of was Miles Garrett.
02:00Like if you could trade.
02:01Yeah, that's different.
02:02No, no, no.
02:02I do think that's more interesting.
02:04I mean, because yes, you're not going to trade him for either Harbaugh or Tomlin, who may
02:10or may not be back, although he seemed to have bought himself more time on Sunday.
02:14He'll be back.
02:14Andy Reid.
02:15Sean McDermott is also as tenured as he is.
02:18Sean McVay.
02:19Beyond that, you've got guys who have not been on the job as long.
02:22And of all those guys, like Zach Taylor and Matt LaFleur, these are guys who are similar
02:28to Kyle Shanahan and they haven't won the big one either.
02:33And Dan Campbell, who I love, he's a great soundbite, but I would not want him in charge
02:38of my fourth down.
02:39So no, I would not trade him for anyone.
02:42But I also agree with what Stiney said about the whole idea of an extension.
02:46If he's got the rest of this year and then all of next year and then I believe one more
02:51year as well, you're in no rush to extend anyone.
02:55No, unless he comes in and says, I would like one.
02:58Then it's not that you're not, that doesn't make you in a rush, but it will make you uncomfortable.
03:04It makes you uncomfortable.
03:05Yeah.
03:06I mean, if he wants to make it uncomfortable.
03:07I mean, you don't want to, you don't want to say no to your best employees.
03:15You don't want to do, you can, you can, but you always run the risk.
03:21If it is sort of taken personally by people, do they hold that and then get you back sometime
03:30down the road?
03:31It happens.
03:31It doesn't happen often.
03:33Weren't we all surprised when Madison Bumgarner signed with the Diamondbacks?
03:38They're like, why'd you leave?
03:39And he's like, well, I'm ticked at the Giants from eight years ago.
03:42Not this regime, but the previous regime.
03:45I'm mad at them.
03:46I didn't like what they said to me.
03:47Right.
03:48Eight years ago.
03:49Somehow.
03:50And he was kind of an odd dude.
03:52Yeah.
03:52And he's a hero.
03:53So like, whatever.
03:54But I guess that's the risk you run if Kyle Shanahan says no.
04:00Like, and again, we don't know where this year goes.
04:03What if something really special happens?
04:06There's no doubt that you would go in and ask for a contract extension.
04:09What if he wins the Super Bowl?
04:11He totally would go ask for an extension.
04:13And I think in that scenario, you'd be crazy to not give it to him, right?
04:18Probably.
04:19And, you know, by the time you get into October of next year, he will have coached more games
04:24as the Niner head coach than anyone ever in the organization.
04:28At the end of this year, he's going to be four games behind Bill Walsh as far as games
04:32coached as a Niner head coach.
04:34So he's already going to be the most tenured Niner coach ever.
04:38And so there's no doubt that you like him.
04:40You already have him signed for two and a half more years.
04:43So if he gets to a spot where, you know, this year they go 12 and five, they win a
04:48playoff game, then they lose.
04:50And the consensus is, oh, my God, what a year.
04:53Shanahan and Salah and Gus Bradley and all the whole staff like, wow, you made something
04:59out of virtually nothing.
05:01We love you.
05:02And he says, yeah, I'd like to get two or three more years on top.
05:05Then maybe you go there and say, OK, we'll figure out a way to extend you.
05:09But I don't think that he will do that.
05:11And I don't think that the organization is going to feel that much pressure to do that.
05:16But to your point, if that's what Kyle wants and Kyle does what he's kind of already done
05:21this year, which is you're nine and four without a lot of your stars and still you're going to
05:27be a playoff team and you're going to be a real threat to do big things.
05:31Because, yeah, you want to keep him around, of course.
05:33I mean, yeah, that's not in question.
05:35I just wondered if, you know, this is a mythical conversation.
05:39I just wonder where 49er fans are on Kyle Shanahan after what we've seen in these 13 games.
05:47Because a lot of these games also, you know, not every win is the same with regard to how
05:51you feel about a coach.
05:53Some of them feel really schemey, you know what I mean?
05:56Where like, ooh, that was a Kyle game.
05:58Like, I can look at a bunch of these.
06:00I felt that way in the win in Seattle.
06:03Definitely everybody felt that way when they won in L.A. on a Thursday night.
06:08That felt beautifully schemed up.
06:1014-0 before a lot of people are even fully in their seats.
06:15I thought that the Cleveland game last week was super schemey.
06:18I thought the win on Sunday night football against the Falcons when George Kittle came
06:22back and they ran the ball like crazy was a nice scheme win for Kyle Shanahan.
06:28It has clearly been a great year for him.
06:33He is among, wouldn't you agree with me, probably among the top five most polarizing sports personalities
06:43in the Bay.
06:46I don't know who's more polarizing.
06:47Than Kyle Shanahan or Jonathan Kaminga.
06:51Sure.
06:51Jonathan Kaminga is like, I guess my top five.
06:54I mean, Steve Kerr, for some reason, people think that he's polarizing.
06:57I don't really get it.
06:59I'm with you.
06:59And I heard Pat Spencer earlier today with Steini and Goo talk about, yeah, I mean, Steve's
07:05got nine rings.
07:05So, you know, I'm going to go ahead and kind of trust.
07:08And I'm paraphrasing, but, you know, Steve's got the nine.
07:11I mean, so, you know, if Steve wants me to be out of the rotation or be a stay ready
07:15guy or start or come off the bench, I'm going to kind of go ahead and give him a pass.
07:19And I'm paraphrasing.
07:21But, yeah, I heard that.
07:22I'm like, how can anyone think that Steve Kerr is otherwise?
07:25But he's polarizing for some.
07:27Yeah, yeah, we sit here at 95.7 and we take your calls and see your texts and your engagement
07:31every day about Steve Kerr.
07:33And whether or not some of you are doing it for effect or for attention or if you just
07:39truly believe that Steve Kerr is a problem, I get it.
07:42It's sports.
07:43We can find just about every opinion.
07:46But, yeah, I think, like, and I'm just doing this off the top of my head, most polarizing
07:51sports figures in the bay right now have to be Kerr, Kaminga, Purdy, Shanahan, and then
08:00the fifth spot is currently up for grabs.
08:03You know, it used to be Farhan, and then it was Gabe.
08:07Right.
08:07And I guess right now it's up for grabs.
08:10It's not Buster.
08:11It's not Buster.
08:12I'm trying to think what other giant would even be.
08:14I mean, it might be Pods.
08:17Not bad, yeah.
08:18It might honestly be Pods.
08:20I was thinking Patrick Bailey, but I don't think that he moves the needle enough as
08:24a, you know, your number nine hitter and your framer, your catcher.
08:27I don't think there's another giant who you look at and go, man, he's polarizing.
08:33I'm trying to think, yeah, bouncing around the diamond at different parts of the year.
08:37It could have been Devers or Adamas when they were underperforming or whatever.
08:41But, yeah, I mean, Bomell, like, a lot of people had feelings on Bomell at the end of
08:46the year, and he got it, you know?
08:48So, maybe Dunleavy, but I think Pods is probably the best guy to put there as the end of our
08:56starting five.
08:57Yeah, and by the way, for the three players, I totally get that.
09:01I get why Kaminga is polarizing, I get why Purdy is polarizing, and I get why Pods is
09:06polarizing.
09:07I do not get why Kerr and Shanahan are polarizing.
09:09I never have.
09:10I've never understood it.
09:12Kyle Shanahan is flipping brilliant.
09:14You can be so mad at the little decisions here and there that he has made, and no one
09:20is perfect.
09:22But the league will tell you every year he's one of the hardest people to go against, and
09:27similar to what Pat Spencer says when he answers about Steve Kerr, it's like, that's just the
09:34way I view it.
09:35I look at both these guys, and again, Kerr's got all the hardware and Kyle doesn't.
09:38But there's so much evidence to the effectiveness of these people as coaches, I can only think
09:46that they get questioned and criticized as often as they do, because that's just the
09:49job.
09:50That's the job.
09:51Yeah, and the standard for the Niners, for those of us who've been around a little while,
09:55the standard is set at Bill Walsh.
09:58And I mean, you don't have to reach that bar, but he's gotten to the Super Bowl twice
10:03and not won.
10:04Harbaugh did the same.
10:05He got there once and didn't win.
10:06So for those of us who are Niner fans who are, I don't know, older than 30 years old,
10:11you're getting a little bit itchy.
10:13And yeah, I always wonder about that part of it.
10:16So you want Shanahan out.
10:18Okay.
10:18You want him out.
10:20Who do you want in?
10:22And you can think about all the people who might be able to step in and coach, like Robert
10:28Sala.
10:28You want him instead of Shanahan?
10:30Someone actually sent that in.
10:31You want Gus Bradley instead of Shanahan.
10:33Gus Bradley's been a head coach in the NFL.
10:35Do you want the Notre Dame coach, who is rumored to be a hot candidate for the New York Giants,
10:40like Chip Kelly?
10:42He's out there again.
10:43And you bring back Chip.
10:44Oh, God.
10:45Chip 2.0.
10:46So if you want to, like, play the game of I want him out, you also have to say who you
10:51want in.
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11:27Before we go to the phones and Nick Friedle in about 10 or 12 minutes, a couple text names
11:33that came in.
11:34Boxer and Gerson work injury attorneys text line that are interesting.
11:36415 says Draymond is one of the most polarizing sports figures in the Bay.
11:42That's probably true.
11:43And 707 says, how about Brandon Ayuk for being No. 5?
11:47Yeah.
11:47I'd say he was last summer.
11:48For sure.
11:49Last summer he was.
11:50I think now it's kind of like, it's kind of a wrap.
11:53I mean, I don't think that he's going to play for the Niners again.
11:55And I don't know how many people are saying, if they had Ayuk this year, they'd be a Super Bowl team.
12:01I've heard zero tears.
12:02Right.
12:03Not a one.
12:03Not one person has said, man, they've got to get Ayuk back.
12:06Nobody has said that.
12:09Which Brandon should know, by the way.
12:13Oh, I'm sure he does know.
12:14He has.
12:15I just think he's cratered his, he's potentially cratered his career, is my opinion.
12:20That was a different conversation for a different day, probably.
12:23Mike in Fremont.
12:25Thanks for calling Willie and Debbie.
12:26What's up, Mike?
12:27Hey, guys.
12:29Happy Tuesday.
12:31I think Kyle's actually grown as a coach this year.
12:35Because of all the injuries, it's made him have to be more creative and, like you said, more schemey.
12:41As opposed to, like, oh, no, I have to do it a certain way because I have all these superstars and that's what we do.
12:47And sometimes, you know, his decision making was so rigid and he just had to stick with it.
12:52Now it just seems like it free flows a little bit more.
12:55And from game to game, it could be a passing game.
12:58It could be a running game.
12:59It's going to be a defensive game.
13:01I think he's actually grown more.
13:03And because he's grown more, he's actually a better coach than he has been, even in some of those Super Bowl years.
13:09Yeah, Mike, that's an interesting take.
13:10I mean, I guess in all forms of life, when a bunch of adversity is thrown at you, you're forced to open up a little bit and do things a different way.
13:19I can't really speak to how different Kyle has been.
13:24It's just been that he's been able to be successful so far this year with a bunch of different scenarios.
13:30Like, the whole rigidity idea, I think Kyle is pretty damn rigid all the time.
13:35I think that he's scheming all night, every day, game week, like all the time.
13:41I just think that's the way he's wired.
13:43But this season has called for a bunch of different things.
13:47You know, from different quarterbacks.
13:49We got Kittle, we don't have Kittle, whatever.
13:51And he's made a bunch of different things work.
13:53So, that's a fair way to kind of compliment it.
13:57I guess, but I think about this year, and for me, it's not disrespect to Kyle, but it's less about Kyle, and it's more about the entire staff.
14:05Because Brent Boyer, special teams, they've gone from worst to not first, but the special teams is now a plus unit across the board.
14:15And you brought back Robert Sala, and he's been able to make a defense without his two best players be good.
14:21Not great, but good enough.
14:23And I look at all the other position coaches, and we talked to John Feliciano about that, and Chris Furster, and the O-line, and you've got the D-line with Kasarek, and you've got all these other coaches.
14:34I do believe that his staff is also having an amazing year.
14:38But to your point, you've had to win games this year in many different ways.
14:43Where, okay, Mac Jones, not as mobile, what are we going to do?
14:47And no Kittle, alright, Tonjes, go out there and, I don't know, catch the ball in the end zone, and win us a game, and all the rest of it.
14:54So, I do think that, from that standpoint, Shanahan's been awesome in scheming, as you say.
15:00A scheming season, for sure.
15:02But also, the one thing that's made his job easy, is he's had No. 23 all year long.
15:10There's no doubt.
15:10There's no doubt.
15:11So, like, I'm not saying that he's not scheming McCaffrey up in an elite way, but a lot of his schemes are, huh, let's find a way to get 23 the ball.
15:20No doubt.
15:21Half the plays.
15:21I like your point, though, about the staff and Sala as well.
15:24Like, I'd argue, as much as I think it's been a great year for Shanahan, the gap between what the world thought of Shanahan at the beginning of the year to now is smaller than the gap of what the world thought about Robert Sala at the beginning of the year to now.
15:39He has, unfortunately for the Niners, he has repositioned himself to be in the head coaching cycle.
15:46He's been that good.
15:47And that's also largely because of what's happened in other recent defensive coordinators since D'Amico Ryan's departure.
15:55It's been a disaster at that position.
15:57And he came back in and totally stabilized it.
15:59Lost his two best players, and they're still hanging in there.
16:02It's incredible.
16:03You know what I mean?
16:04Like, if Kyle's the offensive head coach and Robert is the defensive head coach, yeah, they've all been through adversity.
16:11Robert's been through more.
16:12His players are season-ending injuries.
16:14Kyle's are just, you know, six-week tweak, and you'll be back.
16:18Right.
16:19And also, I mean, you were able to go from Brock Purdy to Mac Jones, which is, I think, a smaller drop than going from Nick Bosa to Keon White or Cleland Furrell.
16:29For sure.
16:30But also, I think that that small drop from Brock Purdy to Mac Jones is a credit to Kyle.
16:37That's a huge credit to Kyle Shanahan.
16:39Yeah, and it's also a credit to John Lynch, because I think, and you go back to the offseason, and it was a day one signing in the offseason when the new year started.
16:48They went out and they signed a backup quarterback.
16:51And we did this yesterday.
16:52We ran through all the other backups who have started games, and they have a winning percentage of about 250 on every other team.
16:59Yet the Niners prioritized a backup, not thinking that Brock would have turf toe, but just in case.
17:06Let's have a good backup.
17:07And so they went out and they paid their backup.
17:09They gave him a two-year deal with guaranteed money, thinking just in case.
17:14And, well, just in case happened, and you had a guy who could go out there and not only be serviceable, but good enough to win games.
17:21Bob in the city is next.
17:22Hi, Bob.
17:22Thank you for the call.
17:23What's up?
17:25Hey, guys.
17:25I really like the show.
17:26Did anybody mention Mike McDaniel?
17:30We did not.
17:31Right?
17:32We did not.
17:32Right.
17:34Okay, good.
17:35No, I'm just kidding.
17:36No, I like Mike McDaniel.
17:38He's a good coach.
17:39But anyway, if I were going to do a straight trade, and it didn't matter what sport, I would trade him for Steve Kerr, for sure.
17:48But, you know, he doesn't know football, obviously.
17:51You're basically, what you're saying, though, is that, like, Steve, in your mind, what?
17:58He's been more successful at his sport than Kyle has been at his?
18:02And, I mean, there's an obvious way to answer that with the hardware, but I think there's nuance that takes the conversation beyond that.
18:08Oh, yeah, for sure.
18:11I totally agree with that.
18:12I would love, you know, Shanahan's too young, unlike Walsh and Seifert, but I would love to see Sala take over.
18:20And I'd like to see him stick around a few more years instead of just, you know, being a head coach again.
18:25But, hey, how can you stop progress, right?
18:28Bob, thanks.
18:29Appreciate that.
18:30Like, I love Robert Sala, too, but that's an interesting comment.
18:35Like, I don't want anyone to take over for Kyle Shanahan.
18:40Kyle Shanahan can be the coach for a long time, as far as I'm concerned.
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