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Zach Gelb talks life after Grier for the Dolphins | Says it would be almost impossible to trade Tua
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Infinity Sports Network national radio host - Zach Gelb - discusses the fallout from the Dolphins moving on from General Manager Chris Grier.
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Zach Gelb can be heard nationally afternoons on the Infinity Sports Network and he joins us from
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the WFAN studios in New York City and Gelby we had a bit of an underwhelming NFL trade deadline
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day for the Dolphins yesterday after they fired Chris Greer I was expecting a significant sell-off
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by 4 p.m. yesterday and the only player they ended up moving was Jalen Phillips a couple
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days earlier to Philly and I understand if there were no offers there's no offers but were you
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surprised that a team like the Dolphins who kind of I thought telegraphed hey we're going to make
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some changes we're going to get rid of the general manager and we need someone to be in charge of
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that are you surprised that they didn't have a big sell-off yesterday uh yes and no oh there's a lot
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of that go right there uh there we go we're good all righty uh yes and no uh I when they got rid of
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Chris Greer I said it's either well we all knew that it was time for him to go but in terms of
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why now it's either they didn't want him to make those decisions or he wasn't comfortable in getting
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rid of a lot of those guys and making those decisions to trade off the the assets without
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knowing what his job security was at um I did anticipate they would make more moves uh I thought
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for sure uh Chubb would be gone um Phillips obviously gets traded in terms of Waddle and
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Achan I didn't know what to expect because those guys are still good young players and unless if you
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would have got blown away with an offer which you weren't getting for Devon Achan just because of the
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the position it would be more for Waddle unless if you were getting a sauce Gardner type of offer
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which the Colts giving up two first round picks which was an overpay uh I did not anticipate that
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Waddle would end up getting dealt uh-oh Crowder you're muted Salon actually was saying that too
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where Waddle is a young good receiver like what what would a guy like that go for do you think
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because they're not getting a one for Waddle but would it be like a two like because they were saying
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one one one we need a one for Waddle and I think that was crazy the Dolphins to approach it that way
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I agree with the Dolphins if they weren't getting a one for Jalen Waddle then I wouldn't have traded him
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like you you're gonna have two on this roster next year two is gonna be the starting quarterback you
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would think next year bare minimum just because the way the contract is structured so what are we
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gonna do just throw two out there for the last year with nothing around him and then whenever the the
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next guy takes over they won't have a guy like Jalen Waddle I think Jalen Waddle is an asset I think he
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could be he has potential to be a number one wide receiver in this league that's what I was gonna ask
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you Gal but regarding Tua because we're all just kind of exploring how the Dolphins can get out of his
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contract and then there's this conversation about keeping Mike McDaniel what's the point right
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now when you're trying to lose games but clearly the Dolphins didn't sell off all their players
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they want to win if Tua what does he have to do to maybe garner some interest around the league
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to where they would trade for him obviously the Dolphins would have to cover most of his money next
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season but it would be a win-win I think if another team can get him at a discount and the
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Dolphins can get part of his contract off their books while looking ahead towards the future would
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there be any interest like what does he have to do I understand that people are desperate to get
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quarterbacks and there's a lot of dumb coordinators in this league that don't actually see what is
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happening in a situation they go I could fix that guy with how public and how nationally the injuries
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have played out with Tua I think it's going to be very tough even if he has a solid second half of the
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season which I don't anticipate I think it's going to be very tough because of how much money he's owed
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even if you do jump through some financial hula hoops and you kind of tie up the loose ends I still
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believe it's going to be virtually impossible to to trade to a tongue of I love is that the same
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thing we kind of had this yesterday when we found out Zion Williamson I'll get back to football but I
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was just thinking like Zion to me there's still so much potential there but he's out again with a
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hamstring injury would anybody take a flyer on Zion for any kind of price like or would it have to be
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bargain basement I I I guess he would be easier to trade than Tua um but that's the he's been less
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he's been less durable than Tua he's given you uh one full season or has he given you more than one
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I mean he wasn't the starter this year right and this year yeah yeah but but but back to what I was
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saying you also have to see who else is available like don't get me wrong Tua has been a better
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quarterback than Kyler Murray and both of those guys have contracts but if I am a general manager
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who do I think is easier to fix right now I think it's easier to fix Kyler Murray than Tua and Kyler
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Murray hasn't always been healthy but it's just where the injuries have occurred in the coverage of
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it I think is totally different so that's another thing working against the Dolphins is that Kyler
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is gonna who already got bench he is going to be available and I know he's hurt right now
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in the offseason and I think there's a team more likely to go trade uh like if you're the Raiders
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let's just say are you more likely to trade for Tua or Kyler Murray I think they'd be more likely to
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trade for Kyler wow I I think that would be a mistake but I I understand what you're saying that
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probably would be the prevailing notion well let's be real it's kind of like when you're a kid
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you know would you rather have the asparagus or the broccoli ma I want the effing donut shut up
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there's no there's no winners in that hypothetical what um what do you make unless if you said avocado
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toast if mom's an avocado toast even though I'm allergic to avocado I know hawk would be
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no one's allergic to avocado that's impossible nobody's what are you uh who's guacamole
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can't have guacamole because avocado you're allergic you swell up like my stomach gets very
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tight and uh how can I clean this up on the radio so it's either coming out one or two places that's
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what I'll say to you boys you don't have a tolerance no like I get sick that I get sick
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you can't say you're allergic no you can't say you're allergic to something if all it does is just
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give you the score right I don't think no no no that's how it happens like I I end up on the
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floor in like the fetal position in the feeble position I don't believe you I am it's it's what
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okay invite me over to your house make me mushrooms and an avocado and your beautiful fiance is gonna
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have to clean up along with you my throw up and my diarrhea it says it is possible to have an allergy
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to avocado avocado allergy is a rare but serious condition that can cause a variety of symptoms
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including oral reactions itching swelling burning in the mouth throat or tongue gastrointestinal
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reactions I'm not making this up vomiting diarrhea or abdominal pain and here's the thing I used to love
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when I was a kid like chips and guac I used to love like if my dad made cheesesteaks put mushrooms
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on the cheesesteaks and then for some reason when I was in high school those foods just didn't start
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to agree with me and my mom is the same way they don't agree with her either and my sister so I do
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think that it runs in the family tighten up gelb I mean it's enough you're you're and by the way if
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Len Weiner is listening right now uh my dear dear friend I I may need to get out of the city and
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you may need a job on 560 wqam 104 3fm I was gonna say you want to run out of the city want a job on
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the am I think you can have it I don't know if they're paying you want to be on the f what is
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that radio libre no it's still 560 you just uh it's kind of uh it's kind of just there although
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I saw someone at the gas station today recognized me and he's like I still listen on the am I said good
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for you oh so it's on both the air something about the crackle of the am I love that uh you're in
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New York what what did you make and what are New Yorkers making of what the Jets did yesterday they
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punted on everything kind of had the fire cell that I thought the Dolphins were gonna have
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I thought you were gonna talk about the election there for a second I was like all right I'm gonna
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just close out the chat real quickly um so I think everyone was shocked on Sauce Gardner
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people thought there was a good chance Quinton Williams was gonna get traded the fact that the Jets got
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two first round picks for Sauce who I've been saying this for a year and a half Sauce Gardner
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is a good player a fine player he is not this great player that you saw the first two seasons
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the last year and a half he has been vastly overrated like I remember in New York two years
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ago I said Pat Sertan is better than Sauce Gardner everyone looked at me and said I was crazy and now
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they look at me and they say that I was absolutely right um so the Jets getting two first round picks
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for Sauce is good for Quinton Williams they're totally in a rebuild he's a good player uh so
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they get a first and a second they now have five first round picks in the next two years so
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you could sit here and say okay the Jets which they've been rebuilding my entire life and like
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all right it's a good job by Darren Mouji because this team just absolutely stunk they they got something
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for their resources and now they could fully invest in a rebuild but ultimately they got a hit on
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four of these five first round picks and you I'll give you one mulligan but the one mulligan it can't
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be is on the quarterback and that's the interesting part to me if they take a quarterback this year
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it's either going to be Dante Moore Ty Simpson Fernando Mendoza none of those names we think are highly
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coveted names so do they take a quarterback this year or do they wait for next year but what did
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everyone tell us a year ago oh wait for that 2026 NFL draft class the quarterbacks are going to be
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unbelievable and right now they don't look like they're going to be unbelievable so it's a crap
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shoot in the quarterback drafting business but when Mouji makes the pick he has to get it right
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because if he doesn't then that will be the death of him in New York and they'll be on the other side
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of that trade though so like you said sauce Gardner I I still think he's a very extremely good corner
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hall of fame ability I'll put it that way he has all the tools in his toolbox and then Quentin Williams
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did the Cowboys or the Colts get better with their additions because you obviously trade
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thinking that you're right on the edge of something yeah so the Colts are in better position for this
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year and I look at that and I say okay that means they really believe in Daniel Jones as long as he
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doesn't get hurt that's why they give up the next year first round pick and Daniel Jones is going to be
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back the question is is he back on a franchise tag or is it one of those Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold
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three-year deals for a hundred million dollars I think Quentin Williams is the better of the two
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players between him and sauce Gardner in my opinion and if you're the Cowboys if you factor it in
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with the trade for Micah Parsons let me be clear I'd still rather have Micah than the players about
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to mention but now they have Kenny Clark they have Quentin Williams and then another first round pick
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that they that they got back from the Micah Parsons trade so if they hit on that first round pick
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and this is the thing for the Cowboys their offense is good enough I know it hasn't been great the last
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two weeks but that's you know regardless of what Draymond Green's about to say calling him a bum
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which I I don't get uh but Dak Prescott's a good quarterback CeeDee Lamb's a great wide receiver
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George Pickens he'll be back they'll find the way to get the deal done they have enough on offense
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now it's how do you make a garbage defense just be serviceable if the Cowboys in this offseason
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can get their defense to be serviceable then they can make the postseason next year so
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I still would have kept Micah Parsons but I think between the two I'd rather have Quentin over
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sauce but you're going to see more of the return on sauce in bigger levered spots because of the
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fact the Colts will be in the playoffs and the Cowboys won't be Gelby we're gonna be out of time
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here so I'm just gonna ask you for your prediction on Sunday because I'm fascinated by this Dolphins
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Bills game because the Dolphins they had one good game this season against Atlanta they had another win
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against the Jets but I don't understand how you can somehow muster up something against Buffalo when
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the GM's been fired I mean the the team the front office has said we're we've given up on the season
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everyone was for sale they got rid of Jalen Phillips they didn't sell off anyone else but everyone was
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for sale Mike McDaniel seems like dead man walking it's a disaster how can the Dolphins stick with
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Buffalo Dolphins are nine point home dogs on Sunday would you take that nine I would lay the
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nine with the Buffalo Bills because like what you said it was close the first time they already had
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the rah-rah effort up against the Buffalo Bills it seems like as long as the Bills have a pulse even
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if it isn't pretty they should be able to beat this team by 10 points and if there if it was McDaniel
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that got fired maybe there's an interim boost with Chris Greer the general manager being out I don't
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think there's an interim boost the only way that this game is close is if Josh Allen just becomes
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a turnover machine and that offensive line gets abused by the Dolphins but once again the Dolphins
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just traded Jalen Phillips so it's kind of tough for me to see this Dolphins defense really doing much
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damage up against the Buffalo Bills Zach Gelb from the WFAN studios in New York we will talk to you
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next Wednesday see you Gelby no heat nuggets talk come on Solana nine and a half point dogs
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tonight the heat they have a tough time in Denver I would have spent 30 minutes on the heat versus
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nuggets Gelb you know that play peppers play peppers probably not tonight probably I'm sending my
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resume to uh to Florida now you know I could be on the move all right len.weiner at odyssey.com
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all right see you Gelby later guys
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