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Miami Dolphins columnist Omar Kelly says he knows there are head coaches in the NFL currently interested in Tua. Plus, his take on the Dolphins decision to keep Mike McDaniel following the firing of GM Chris Grier.
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00:00And I texted Omar this morning.
00:02I said, hey, I want to talk about the Tua situation.
00:05Talk is off, but I'd like you to join Crowder and I.
00:08And I was telling everybody earlier in the show, Omar,
00:10he joins us on the Toyota Hollywood Hotline, Miami Dolphins columnist,
00:14covering the team for the Miami Herald.
00:17Yesterday, I had asked Zach Gelb, who joins us.
00:19He's a national talk show host.
00:20We were just kind of asking him his national perspective on the Dolphins.
00:24He's not geared in like you are, obviously, around the team,
00:26but he's got a good pulse of what's going on, Omar.
00:28And we asked him what he thought the interest around the league would be
00:34for Tua Tungabailoa this offseason or what he would have to do to garner interest.
00:39And he said his opinion that he thinks it would be virtually impossible
00:44for the Dolphins to trade Tua at the end of the season.
00:47And I clicked it and I posted it on social media.
00:50This morning, I'm just looking at the comments.
00:52And Caleb Smith commented on Facebook, according to Omar Kelly,
00:57there's a huge market for Tua.
00:59They don't say huge.
01:01Well, and he said, so why don't y'all get him on this topic?
01:05I said, okay, Caleb.
01:06All right.
01:07I'll get Omar on this topic then.
01:09I want to be free and fair here.
01:11I'll get Omar on this topic.
01:12So, Omar, I would like to ask you, you know,
01:16beyond everything else from today, you were at practice.
01:20You spoke to some of the players.
01:21I see there's no more Papa shot, which I can't wait to talk to you about.
01:26What do you really think the market would be for Tua?
01:30Or does he have to play a certain way this final stretch,
01:34final half of the season in order to bolster the idea of somebody trading for him?
01:40I want you to know that you inspired my column that will be in today's Miami Herald,
01:45where the whole bottom portion explains what's remaining on Tua's contract.
01:52It's probably the most complicated situation to sum up to anybody.
01:58But the bottom line is Tua is getting $55 million from the Dolphins
02:03or somebody else next year.
02:05Who pays it?
02:06Who knows?
02:08And if you cut him, then you're basically having a dead cap of $99 million.
02:12So, he's playing in the NFL unless he retires and cashes out an injury settlement.
02:19And I think that that's a slim possibility.
02:21Now, when I said that there are teams that were interested in Tua,
02:24that was based on me talking, reporting.
02:27And I know head coaches that are definitely interested in Tua.
02:31One of them does have a quarterback now.
02:33And then one of them, it depends on the situation, how the season plays out.
02:38He might not have a quarterback.
02:40He might have a quarterback.
02:41Then you look at the New Orleans Saints.
02:43You telling me that if they don't end up with one of these hopeful quarterbacks,
02:47that they're not going to be interested in Tua and putting him in the dome situation?
02:52I find that hard to believe, especially considering his head coach is a lefty and just like him.
02:59So, obviously, you know, there's some commonalities there.
03:03There will be interest in Tua.
03:05The contract is not ideal.
03:07It's really going to be a turnoff to everybody.
03:10But that's the reality of the situation.
03:12I mean, Tua, but I have a hard time believing that he's not going to be here next year.
03:18And, oh, to that point, or just to the attention he's getting or the interest he'll have,
03:23my thing is Tua can play football in this league.
03:25That's not what I'm saying when I say, you know, low interest.
03:28Because is somebody going to hand him the reins again?
03:32He's our franchise.
03:33Like, it's Tua, because I think, I don't know if you heard me, O.
03:36I think 2023, he's coming up.
03:39He's moving.
03:39He hit 2023.
03:40I think we hit the bell curve and he's going back down or at least plateauing.
03:44I don't think we're going to see a better Tua than 2023.
03:46Listen, even Tua said, and this is part of the column, he's trying to get back to where I was.
03:53I don't understand why my game has changed and why I'm not feeling as comfortable as I am.
04:00I know why.
04:00But, you know, I'm not feeling as comfortable.
04:03My footwork isn't right.
04:05You know, I'm trying to get back to that old form.
04:07And I'm thinking to myself, what receivers?
04:10I'm thinking to myself, what offensive line?
04:14You know, he's, and this is not to make excuses for him.
04:18He does not look like the same quarterback.
04:20He is, you know, he got that Jay Cutler disease where if you're coming close to him,
04:25mm-mm, mm-mm, I'm throwing the ball away.
04:28Like, mm-mm, it's out of my hand.
04:29Like, don't hit him.
04:31But he's also instructed to do this.
04:34He's instructed to play this way.
04:36Because everybody hammered in his brain,
04:38just keep yourself available to the team.
04:40Okay.
04:41Well, it's altered his game a little bit, slightly.
04:44Just a little bit.
04:46What?
04:46Oh, to that point.
04:47So, I think you're a little higher on Tua than me.
04:51Yeah.
04:51But we talked about it where, like, the Lions offense,
04:55that play action having two hellified running backs,
04:57you can run the ball and win games.
04:58Now you have the deep ball play action.
05:01Tua's arm, I don't think, can thrive in that deep ball offense.
05:05He can't play in the Ravens offense or the Bills offense.
05:08He's not athletic enough.
05:09Like, what kind of offense does Tua have to play in?
05:12Does it have to be timing and throwing the windows?
05:14Yeah.
05:14But he thrived in that offense,
05:16and he thrived throwing the deep balls in 22 and 23.
05:19We just haven't seen it in 24.
05:21Now, has the arm slightly decreased?
05:25I don't know.
05:25Maybe.
05:25But I've seen Tua throw a 45 yards on a rope.
05:29That's not his strength.
05:31But that wasn't Ryan Tannehill's strength.
05:32And he played, what, 10 seasons, if not more,
05:36as a starter in the NFL, I don't think it's the deep ball.
05:40I mean, and realistically, I saw Jalen Walter,
05:42who are you throwing the deep ball to on this team?
05:46I don't necessarily think.
05:47Alec Ingold.
05:47Apparently Alec Ingold, Omar.
05:51I do think he needs a little bit more targets,
05:54but that's a whole.
05:55Stop.
05:55Stop.
05:56Listen.
05:57Listen, nobody ever defends Alec Ingold.
05:59Think about it.
06:00They always assume he's blocking.
06:02And what's supposed to be face blocks and goes out for a route.
06:06You know what I'm saying?
06:07On somebody like Channing Crowder, he'd probably be open.
06:10Wow.
06:10We got you for 11 yards.
06:13Now you can't base no offense around that.
06:17I mean, what you want.
06:19Listen, it's funny I say this, Crowder, you could understand.
06:23Do you realize that their best offense is six offensive linemen on the field
06:27and four targets?
06:28It's like they said, forget the fifth target.
06:31We can play well if we can protect the quarterback.
06:35Think about that for a little bit.
06:37If you run the ball better and you protect the quarterback
06:40and he really don't need five outlets,
06:43why wouldn't you think about just going with six offensive linemen?
06:46Just think about it a little bit.
06:48It works.
06:49Omar, if Crowder could have been on the field as a linebacker
06:53going up against a team that had Larry Borum
06:55and Greg Dulcich as the two tight ends, you'd still be in the league.
06:59Pro Bowler.
07:00You'd still be in the league.
07:02What?
07:03I could lock down Borum.
07:05It's so cold.
07:08Oh, but listen, you're right, too.
07:11The sixth offensive lineman thing.
07:12They're going to figure that out.
07:14They're going to know Fat Boy.
07:14Yeah, they will figure it out.
07:15They're going to start doubling people.
07:17Like that was the thing about Mike McDaniel's stuff.
07:19And Arande Gaston called it years ago.
07:21So if his stuff works, it works.
07:24If they got him, he can't turn a page over.
07:30There's no plan B is what we kept calling.
07:32It seemed like the sixth offensive lineman was a plan B,
07:36but the plan B didn't hit until three weeks ago.
07:38Hell, yeah, we're four years in.
07:40I was begging them the year three when they couldn't run the ball
07:43to go to a jumbo package.
07:45But, you know, that's besides the point.
07:49Right now they're problem solving.
07:50They don't have Darren Waller.
07:52They don't have Tyreek Hill.
07:54You really, I mean, who is your second best weapon?
07:56Malik Washington?
07:58Like, you know, Devon A. Chan is catching,
08:02probably going to catch more balls than any back in team history
08:05at this point.
08:07You know, you have two legit weapons on this team.
08:10Who in the NFL can you beat with two legit weapons?
08:15Obviously the Falcons.
08:16They just caught him sleeping on that sixth offensive lineman.
08:25Omar, before we let you go, I know you have a busy day ahead of you.
08:34The plan right now from the front office, they let go of Chris Greer.
08:37I don't think anybody's very surprised that that was the move.
08:41But I do think there's people who are surprised Mike McDaniel is sticking around here.
08:46The plan moving forward where we're reading reports that Mike McDaniel might still have
08:51a job next season, depending on how he does this year.
08:54What do you make of the whole thing?
08:55I mean, I see you laughing.
08:57What do you make of this entire situation?
08:59You keep Greer, but are you, you let go of Greer, but not McDaniel.
09:02Like, how is this going to work out?
09:02Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me counter your reports, which is, I mean, what else
09:07are they going to say to, let me counter your reports.
09:11Crowder, you remember when Joey stepped up in the, in the meeting room and basically
09:14it was like, uh, Cam Cameron, you don't know what you're doing.
09:18Yeah.
09:19Right next to him.
09:21I was grabbing, I was grabbing his, his pant leg, like a little kid trying to keep daddy
09:24home.
09:26Sit down.
09:28Man, you full of bleep.
09:29You don't know what the hell's going on.
09:31Yeah.
09:31Yeah.
09:32Listen, the minute the locker room is, you don't know what's going on.
09:37You can't fix it.
09:39And like, we are doomed and they start checking out.
09:43You're done.
09:44You're done as a head coach.
09:46Gase tried to change the entire locker room.
09:49Who was it?
09:50Was it Gase or Joe Philbin?
09:51Joe Philbin.
09:52I think Joe Philbin tried to change the entire locker room too.
09:55It doesn't matter when they check out, they check out and they not coming back.
09:58Like, there's nothing you could do as long as one or two players is there.
10:04They'll sit there in the meeting room and be like, this guy, this dude, they don't know
10:07what he's doing.
10:08Yeah.
10:08Yeah.
10:09So all these people were saying, Mike safe, Mike safe.
10:13Mike safe.
10:13If they start winning games, maybe.
10:16But, but think about it from Steve Ross's perspective.
10:18How can you sell this team to a fan base?
10:22If you bring Mike back, exactly.
10:24What do you say?
10:25What do you do?
10:26This fan base is they've done.
10:28They're like, no more this.
10:30I'm good.
10:31I'm tapping out.
10:32And I really don't know if you could do anything other than massive change up to get their interest
10:40again.
10:41And it's, it's, it's, it's going to be a tough uphill battle for this Dolphins organization.
10:45They took out the Papa shot.
10:48Yeah.
10:49They were interested in Papa shot.
10:51Now they're not thinking about Papa.
10:53They're getting ready for Buffalo.
10:54Omar.
10:55Right.
10:56Listen, it was taken over their mind.
10:58Listen, it's so funny because it's a Papa shot and a basketball rim.
11:03But they took out both of them.
11:05And those things must've taken so many shots.
11:09The Papa shot been broken like four times already.
11:12We are on week nine.
11:13The Papa shot has been broken like four times.
11:16We're in the locker room.
11:18There might be 300, 300, 400 shots taken, you know, from the Papa shot.
11:24You walk into the shower, Papa shot, Papa shot.
11:27You try, you try, you know, you know how it is, Crowder.
11:31It's, you know what?
11:33It's, it was a gathering thing.
11:35It was a meeting place.
11:36It was a bonding thing.
11:38I guess they figured week nine, we done bonded.
11:40We good.
11:40So, so the Papa shot was, uh, was a distraction.
11:47What's the care?
11:48Me and Salah talked about this earlier.
11:50You're talking about motivation or people checking out on McDaniel.
11:53What is the carrot that you're checking?
11:55What's the carrot that they're, I guess, what are they selling the players as that carrot
11:59that they're chasing?
11:59Uh, it's funny cause Bradley Chubb called, he's like, I might be delusional, but I still
12:05think we got a shot at winning the game.
12:07And I'll be like, okay, Bradley, you are indeed delusional.
12:11Um, people are playing for their futures, NFL futures for their future roles, for their
12:17future contracts, for their future employer, maybe for their future head coach.
12:20Um, this is, this is really about, you know, this is when you get the, the, the repeated
12:26to you, the eye in the sky.
12:28Don't lie.
12:29I got to put good stuff on film because that's going to be my resume.
12:32Like, you know, you cannot quit on a team.
12:35It makes it very hard on you when you do quit on a team and people are not going to want
12:40to employ you.
12:42Omar, do you eat nachos?
12:44No, I just, geez, why would I do that?
12:48I knew, I knew that because you don't eat sandwiches.
12:51Today's national nachos day.
12:52I figured nachos, there's just too much going on on a, on a plate for you.
12:56It's the cheese component.
12:58I'll eat the chips with some picadillo.
13:01I mean, I'll pick a deal.
13:02Salsa.
13:02Um, I forget what people.
13:05You eat guac?
13:07No.
13:07Like guac and chips?
13:08You don't eat guacamole?
13:09No.
13:10I will, I will eat it in a, in a, in a roll, but I'll be like, but I'll survive with it
13:18in a roll, but I'm, I'm not enjoying it.
13:21No, I know.
13:21I don't enjoy guac.
13:23Wow.
13:23Crazy.
13:24Y'all grown men don't eat.
13:26You don't eat like mozzarella sticks.
13:29Oh, I do eat mozzarella.
13:30If it's mozzarella, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll give it a try.
13:32Oh, it's fried.
13:33He likes fried cheese.
13:33You like fried cheese.
13:35Pizza and mozzarella sticks is probably about the, the, the extent of my cheese experience.
13:40But, but I mean, if I eat cheese, you, whoever's around me going to pay the consequences.
13:44It's not just that I don't like it.
13:47You got that milk.
13:48Yeah.
13:49Cheese don't like me either.
13:50You, you, you, you, you've been vegan for a hot minute.
13:53You, you know, when you stop eating all that stuff.
13:55Oh man.
13:56This guy, any TikTok trend, Omar, this guy is taking down prebiotic, probiotic, kombucha.
14:04He spent $75 on some health vitamins downstairs.
14:08And meanwhile, he, he threw down 7,000 calories of sushi in between each of those kombuchas.
14:14Hey, oh, you're getting on your peptides and your collagen.
14:16You got to get your peptide collagen in you.
14:19You know what?
14:20The collagen, I do need to research it.
14:22Like, yeah.
14:24All the, all them old cougars, they, they real big on the collagen.
14:28You know what I'm saying?
14:28It keeps me young.
14:29Look at, he looks all sick and, and, and, and meagely.
14:32What do you guys know about that collagen?
14:34He's TikTok health guy, final boss.
14:38Omar Kelly, read his work.
14:40By the way, it looks like our show inspired a column tonight.
14:42That's pretty cool.
14:43Read it.
14:44Miamiherald.com.
14:45Omar, we love you, man.
14:46Thank you so much.
14:47I guess.
14:48All right.
14:49Omar Kelly, ladies and gentlemen.
14:50I knew, I knew Omar, the nachos question.
14:53I had it written down.
14:54I'm like, no way he eats nachos.
14:55I just knew it.
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