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00:00high drive to left and out of here
00:06and that's how this game gets started now back to will and dibby on 95 7 the game that was an
00:17interesting follow-up to uh the um quotes and controversy gone yeah that's the best way to uh
00:25and go about it and you know you get into a little bit of a sticky spot and shows like ours weigh in
00:31on what he should or should not have said and he walks it back pre-game at the suggestion i would
00:37imagine of people in public relations saying hey uh yeah that wasn't great let's go ahead and uh
00:42you know walk it back a little bit and then he goes up and gets a bat and on the fourth pitch
00:47go on go on so yeah hey fans uh anybody still mad at me i mean zordon you still mad at me
00:55mr video maker sounded pretty mad it was a lot of potty mouth there was a lot of potty mouth in
01:01there yeah and he works 12 hours a day that was more beeps than a john feliciano interview that's
01:06not bad that's a solid three thank you three for the number of beeps he almost got to so zordon we
01:12played the rant uh zordon morty z morty 94 if you want to follow him he could use you he's only got 143
01:19but he works for one of the oil change places and he as he mentioned he works 12 hours a day
01:25so you get off work and you want to just enjoy your team and yesterday i think he did because i'm
01:32looking at his twitter and uh elliot wants to play now all caps ah yeah giants win baby and that was uh
01:43five hours after the blank you you're done as a giant i'm good if you're not on the team you're a
01:49below average defender with a bad bat and a bad attitude blank off not sincerely us giants fans
01:55five hours later ah yeah so fan is short for fanatic shout out guru but that's what i'm getting at
02:03that's totally what you're getting at what i'm getting at and and so he's about to get a follow
02:08for me we're gonna get him up to 144 okay that's exciting boom i would imagine refresh your page
02:13because you saying it on the radio has got to get him a few more z morty 94 uh i gave him a follow and
02:20he's still at 144 okay well there's a delay anyway um check it again for me in uh 10 minutes uh go
02:28zordon go go zordon go get z mort to 200 by the end of the show darn it i can get to him by 245 if we
02:35wanted to but i i like i just i don't fully think this is real i don't think you hate bob melvin
02:42i don't i don't think you hate bob melvin and i can't speak to all of you at once there's a bunch
02:51of varying opinions and i like i don't 100 think bob is safe i don't think that i don't think bob has
03:00been awesome this year i don't think that but i also don't think that most giants fans are uh in
03:09the streets with pitchforks i just don't i don't feel that way i think that there's two things one
03:15that's the internet and and imagine like you brought up a bunch of platforms and you're on reddit like
03:21imagine this is it's very much like the comp you and i have made to yelp nobody goes to yelp after you
03:27had a good date that's not when you go to yelp you go to yelp when the salmon came out not cooked
03:34that's when you go to yelp when you're mad and so when do you go to the internet to yell at bob
03:41not last night quiet you don't want bob fired anymore well they won they've won two in a row right
03:50there's nothing to bellyache about so a i i i think that this is very very circumstantial and and
03:59and that's fair that's fair you get to ride the wave and all of those things um and the giants have
04:05not played well so let's look at the manager that's kind of the other side of it yeah like i think that
04:11people are looking at the manager because you don't know what else to look at and the giants haven't
04:16really been forthcoming um in terms of what the actual problems are i don't think it's bob
04:23i don't i don't either i mean i i think that it is a problem and i don't think that he's had a
04:30terrific year and there were times where he's left a starter in too long and you know there are times
04:36where you could look at managerial mistakes and you could also look at the coaching staff where
04:42the third base coach matt williams giants legend your boyhood idol that might be too strong but
04:48yeah i mean one of the guys you aspired to be he had a month where he couldn't stop making the wrong
04:55decision at third and whoever the fielding coach is if there is one their defense has been horrendous
05:03so you can look at a number of different people but for me if you want to bullseye the one problem
05:09it's the guys who you're paying nine figures to they've not been consistently good enough to
05:15earn their keep quite frankly yeah a couple things we'd like to play for you first of all scott osler
05:21came on with the joes this morning and here's what he said with regard to the quote that uh that made
05:28the rounds yesterday in his article and again i want to make sure we read that to you here's the
05:33the the quote um and it comes from this question what about the people yelling that they want to
05:39see melvin yelling which yes we love you guru that's you that's you scott like in my opinion
05:46scott osler literally asked elliot a question totally based on guru so scott thank you for
05:52listening to 95 7 the game and steiny and goo because that has often been goose point i want bob
05:58to flip a spread show some energy get mad ramos's quote was outside people don't know anything that's the
06:06type of person bob is that doesn't mean he's not a great manager when we were winning everybody was
06:11on our side now it's like the fans are against us and all that i don't get it we're here and we know
06:17what's going on we know what we're feeling we know what we're working for but fans are going to be fans
06:21we can't do nothing about it okay i didn't really i mean you and i talked a lot about it yesterday
06:27my first initial reaction was this is a young player who probably just chose the wrong word or
06:33two i don't think there's anything malicious here but it's impossible to not have those kinds of
06:37comments anger some fans now here was scott's follow-up comment today you know this is a good
06:43lesson for journalists i'd probably if i was going to write that again i would have nuanced that and
06:48kind of gone into taking more time to explain elliot's comments and you know kind of give more
06:54context for instance you know he said the fans you know the fans really don't know anything
06:58and that sounds kind of like a rip of the fans and that's the san francisco sf gate guy took that
07:04quota and made it sound like elliot's on some big kind of rampage against the fans which was not the
07:10case what he was saying was that the fans don't know anything they don't know what goes on in the
07:16clubhouse they don't really know they're they're criticizing the managers but they don't know
07:19what really goes on right here and we know and so he was it was more much more in defense of bob
07:25melvin than it was any kind of attack on the fans he was basically just just saying look the fans
07:30just don't know what's going on he also said that you know it's he kind of pointed out it's a little
07:34bit puzzling you know when things are going good they were on our side and and now they're kind of
07:39turning on us a little bit and it wasn't really to me a criticism of the fans again i should have
07:44explained this more carefully it was more of a he was puzzled like geez why are they not backing us
07:50now we're we're the same guys we were a month and a half ago how come they're turning on that that's
07:55kind of the part that i still will take issue with first of all it's not puzzling at all you lose every
07:59baseball game at home especially yeah it's not puzzling this is not confusing number one but number
08:05two i still take issue even with the the the concept again not the statement elliot whatever the
08:13quote reads a certain way maybe he meant it a different way and that's fine but i take issue
08:17with even just the concept of i feel like the fans are against us the only way you feel that way
08:24is if you are solely focused on the negative side of the fence um and and i'm not saying the negative
08:33side of the fence is wrong um but again like how can you feel that way when the stands are packed
08:40all week long the weather's beautiful and everybody's there and they're taking in giants
08:47no no no no booze here and there sure i mean welcome to the you live in a big city and you play
08:54in a big team like there's going to be some moans and groans sometimes i i don't i don't know where
08:59you would get the concept to feel like quote the fans are against us that just doesn't feel accurate
09:05to me especially in the ballpark and that is an internet and an online feeling so if he's out
09:12there and he's reading all the different things on reddit mccovey chronicles uh around the foghorn
09:18or whatever else you know sf gate and he mentioned the guy at sf gate and we know the guy at sf gate
09:24and once upon a time sf gate was an offshoot of the chronicle what do you say by the way and you're
09:30talking about alex simon alex simon does articles for the sf gate and tends to walk into quiet rooms
09:37and throw right and it's all an aggregation sensation is what it is just throw fire and
09:43wood all over everything but but yeah so you take a piece like scott osler's piece which uh the
09:49headline for the osler piece was giants remain united behind bob melvin quote outside people don't
09:54know anything okay that's osler's headline for his column the sf gate headline is giant player
10:00bashes fans got it amid historic home losing skid yeah yep that sounds like alex you take the one
10:08piece and then you make that the headline and it's definitely eye-catching sure that's how you get that
10:13that's how you get and that's how you do it to your side and so that's what scott was referring to
10:17with the sf gate guy and yeah honestly if you think about giants fans in general in totality
10:26you're frustrated and if you go to the team and you want to know what's exactly wrong like why is
10:32this team falling short and you go to the warriors last postseason why did they lose to minnesota well
10:38the easy answer is you lost your best player and you lost four straight games is it an excuse or a
10:43reason probably both but you can kind of sum it all up in just that it's not a mystery you were
10:50playing great your star got hurt and you lost this is different because why are you losing all these
10:57games your run differential is almost a flat dead zero back to minus one right now right and so i mean
11:04and you're still in it but you're not in it why aren't you better and you have to look at like 12
11:08different things as to why you're not better and so for fans it's easier to just say oh the manager
11:14as opposed to getting into all the nuance and all the weeds of it you know that's fair that's like
11:19i actually don't even think that's unfair like i don't think anybody's crazy if that's where they
11:23want to point that's the nature of being a boss uh when when when things aren't going well let's start
11:29with the boss that's the that's a huge part of it so i don't think that's some sort of a
11:33of a crazy opinion i just think that we're in a spot right now where everything and maybe this is
11:40just because they're this extended home losing streak um if you will everything is sounding and
11:47feeling a way hotter and more controversial than it is i that's how i feel apparently evan has been
11:54out in the streets and everybody is yelling that bob melvin must go and there are chants and whatnot
11:59i'm overstating it but that's the evan says he's having that conversation a lot of places i'm not
12:04again yes i see it on reddit i see it on twitter i hear it on 95 7 the game i do not at my fantasy
12:13draft with with 12 other giants fans no one's like get bob mel right oh i didn't like i don't i don't
12:21hear that people are like oh god this is the whole thing's just disappointing sure i think that's like
12:27and and everyone's confused as to why the giants are the fans are everyone's confused and it's all
12:34of the little things and it's hard to have that conversation and talk about the minutiae of failed
12:40baseball but it's hitting with runners in scoring position it's advancing runners it's making the
12:46simple defensive play to eliminate giving other teams 90 feet it's being able to steal a base and i
12:53don't know if you saw over the weekend i know you were in and out but jung hu lee like running like
12:58his butts on fire like i was stealing everything yep jung hu lee is on the move and catching baseballs
13:04with his legs right i'm into it yeah i think they should do that with all of them now let's entertain
13:09everybody certainly like uh savannah banana style do a cartwheel and then make the play catch it with
13:15your shoe your hat i don't know something these answers though are much harder than uh just blaming
13:21the stars and blaming the manager and the things that make me look to firing a coach or a manager
13:28the number one thing is what happened to kapler where you just you lose the fellas lost the people
13:33lost the people exactly you got jock peterson playing pusoy dose during games and caring more
13:39about a card game than he cared about baseball and you had other players where you know it's like
13:44am i gonna play three innings today skip what am i doing and you know farhan kind of lost his way and
13:49so that one you could kind of smell and you and i were doing it you know august it's like you know
13:54things are things are all right and you got to september and you were talking to some of your sources and
14:00you're like this ain't good either either one of them and by the time we got to mid-september you were
14:04like there gonna be some changes and i was like yeah i mean it didn't happen suddenly but you went from
14:11uh they're teetering maybe to oh no they had to go yeah this could go that way but i don't think it
14:18will it could i don't i don't think that it will either and and there are multiple reasons to move
14:22on from leadership it's not only hey the guys are kind of out on this whole vibe and situation so
14:29yeah i don't have a prediction right now in terms of way the which which way this is going to go
14:34but for those of you listening dibs is 100 like you're right that this is not that nobody in the
14:41clubhouse is like man we need we need this guy out of here we got to do something different um and then
14:47try this on for size this is from our uh our uh our friend eric burns deuces wild podcast he always
14:53has will clark on listen to this conversation with regard to the problems facing the giants
14:59hitting what runs in score position is a skill and you got to practice it you know you can't get all
15:03caught up in the moment you can't panic uh you got to take kind of what comes your way but then
15:08again you also can't drive in runs if nobody's out there the only thing you can do is hit a solo homer
15:12or you become the guy that starts the in and off so you know i love pat burl of death he and i he and
15:17i talk all the time about hitting and about his approach and what he's telling the guys and all that
15:22and believe you coming from me it is extremely solid and so that's that's not the problem here the
15:29problem is not pat burl problem is not bob melvin problem is when you step in between the
15:33executing so there it is he throws in pat burl and that'll probably be an unpopular thing that
15:42will clark just said but i to me that was that maybe even the more interesting part of it he's like
15:48i am talking to pat constantly about hitting and the process that he is using with these hitters is
15:56incredibly strong rock solid okay and i hear from people all the time they want will clark to take
16:03over um look look look just last week on twitter yeah hire will clark as manager and watch this fan
16:12base rally around that will clark is not manager material i don't even think will would want to do
16:18that but like all of these things sort of they attach to some sort of an emotion in us which is
16:27the way i feel when when things are not going well we get frustrated we want someone to yell we want
16:32someone to have a big personality and be out there and this that the other use swear words these are the
16:38things that will does so will is perfect when we're mad okay and bob is perfect when we're happy
16:45so i understand that but to elliot's point that's how we're feeling what matters is is kind of the way
16:53they're feeling and the way they are producing and what would help them do better and so if we're
16:59going to go to process versus result i'm going to take will's word for it a great hitter and a great
17:05giant that the process that's being used is rock solid the execution stinks right that's not bob that's
17:13that's the execution and the people who are asked to execute are guys who are making three of them
17:20are making nine digits and if you throw in jung hu lee that's four guys who are making nine figure
17:25salaries and they're going to be here for a long time and yeah you've got to be able to situational
17:31hit and you can tell players till you're blue in the face what they should do and how you need to go
17:37about doing it but if they don't execute it then your approach can be rock solid but you're not
17:43getting the results and just with runners in scoring position this year 25th in at bats so you
17:49don't have a lot of those at bats with runners in scoring position you're 27th in hits with runners
17:54in scoring position 18th in rbi and 22nd in ops in those situations so you're bottom third bottom
18:03fourth even in opportunities and when you get the opportunities you don't do it well i mean those
18:10are the numbers that i look at where okay if you're fourth in at bats with runners in scoring
18:15position well you can be kind of bad and still succeed because you're getting a lot of those
18:20chances they don't get a lot of chances and when they do they don't deliver they probably need to go
18:26overspend for another player a second baseman would be nice or right fielder sure and i mean yeah
18:34go offer kyle tucker 400 million dollars do it they won't you won't totally no but you're not
18:42wrong they probably do they probably do like i know that that it sounds ridiculous when it's like
18:47dude we got adamas we finally got and then they traded for devers it sounds ridiculous to be like
18:51i think you need one more but i think they need one more that's your oceans 11 yeah you think we need
18:55one more one more i get one more let's get one more yes think about yesterday and that was the
19:00first time in two weeks that they scored four runs or more in an inning you know i chart it
19:04all four of the last times they've done that have been on the road not surprisingly nope considering
19:10they don't score here but yesterday was a perfect example you got four runs via three home runs
19:16and then you had to hold on for dear life you never scored again that's it yeah that was such a
19:21Giants game well and i mean that's baseball i guess what give the pod race pitchers credit they are a
19:27yes all of those things feel free though to get seven runs like you got four early can you scratch
19:33out a couple of five right how about five can you get one more right get one more yeah they almost
19:41needed one more oh they didn't get one more um no i like again that's that's that's the deal this year
19:48and there's two pieces that really concern me the Giants are one of the only teams in baseball
19:53spending big money and not winning more baseball games than they lose that's very concerning number
19:59two you cannot scream from the mountaintops well we were injured no you weren't not really like i okay
20:07chappy missed three weeks whatever it was like uh it's not enough that's not enough to cry foul
20:14you had your you you put your roster together these are your people they played you were 61 and 64
20:21yep and you're not a good hitting team no yeah still and the pitching has come a little bit back
20:27to earth because you traded two of your better relievers and you know your starters have been
20:33it's been a little bit of a rotation because you haven't had everybody up and healthy the whole way
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