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02:39Mary decides to call when she's five minutes away to let her daughter know that she is close
02:44by.
02:45Mary forgot one thing.
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02:51I don't know.
02:52I really don't know.
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03:20Welcome to Beyond the Tape.
03:37Welcome Trinidad and Tobago.
03:38I'm your host Mark Bassan.
03:39Welcome to our viewers across the globe.
03:42It's Wednesday and of course it's legally speaking Wednesdays.
03:45And with us today is Acting Sergeant Zaheer Ali Atinyat-Law of the Trinidad and Tobago
03:51Police Service.
03:52Welcome sir.
03:53How are you?
03:54Thank you very much for your warm welcome, Mark.
03:55Good evening to you.
03:56Good evening to Jack here and our family members on Beyond the Tape.
04:00Family members on TV6, you know, sometimes I miss them but I want to, you know, recognize
04:04them this afternoon.
04:05The citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, my colleagues, the law enforcement agencies and supporting agencies.
04:12Pleasant good afternoon to you.
04:14Mark, let me begin and share, you know, a comment, you know, with you, you know, leading
04:20the charge on behalf of the media.
04:21I know a couple of days ago, I think it was Saturday, we celebrated International Press
04:27Day.
04:28Yeah, it was Friday.
04:29Friday.
04:30Yes.
04:31And, you know, I want to take this opportunity.
04:32I had the opportunity to read the print media and also, you know, I had the opportunity to
04:38look at some news and, you know, I want to echo the sentiments of Chief Executive Officer
04:45Dawn Thomas.
04:47I had the opportunity to read an article where she spoke about the importance of the freedom
04:52of the press.
04:53And what was very, very revealing, you know, when we speak from a legal context, we talk
05:00about three institutions of the state, which we all are aware of in terms of the parliament,
05:05the executive and the judiciary.
05:08The Chief Executive Officer, Ms. Thomas, you know, identified the press as an institution,
05:13and I was happy and encouraged by that.
05:17And I want to echo the sentiment to you and to all media houses in Trinidad and Tobago and
05:21wish you all, you know, best of luck as you continue to proceed, you know, as journalists,
05:28you know, investigative journalists and generally speaking of members of the media.
05:32I think it's important, you know, and I want to support our call to ensure that we continue
05:36to protect the freedom of the press.
05:39And if even there's room for improving and developing that freedom of the press, you know,
05:43I think we should take the opportunity.
05:44So, on behalf of myself, first off, on behalf of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
05:48and I'm sure on behalf of the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago, they will appreciate how
05:52important that the media is.
05:54Or as they say, the fourth estate.
05:56That's right, as an institution.
05:59And, you know, just recently, you know, we had a general election, and it is evident how
06:06effective the media was utilized for the reference to all the political parties to get their
06:12message to communicate with the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago.
06:16So, Mark, hats off.
06:17I salute members of the media, and I know there's not an easy job, and especially in the line
06:21that you venture sometimes, you know, keep going and keep holding the democracy of Trinidad
06:26and Tobago.
06:26And to Ms. Thomas, you know, I want to salute you this afternoon for those very strong comments.
06:30Yes, certainly, you know, our role and function is extremely important.
06:34And, you know, it's always important that we never lose sight of that for being the watchdogs
06:43of the public and the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago.
06:46Yes.
06:46You know, forget social media and all these things, but making sure that mainstream media
06:50has a place here to stay.
06:53Yes.
06:54And in terms of credibility and checking things and double and triple checking things.
07:00Yes.
07:00Before you post or before you write something that might go viral now.
07:05Yes.
07:05Or even a video, you have to verify if it's a real, authentic video in many instances now
07:11because it's AI and all these things.
07:14That's correct.
07:14You have to be extremely careful and you have to be meticulous.
07:17And I want to impart upon all those young journalists who think with social media and so on that
07:23that is just part of the job, but you also have to be meticulous.
07:27Sometimes getting something first doesn't mean you're right.
07:31That's correct.
07:31And it's important for us as journalists across Trinidad and Tobago and, of course,
07:37the region and the world, that is one common goal.
07:40To always get it right, to be fair, to be objective, and to be truthful in everything that is written.
07:47Well, Mark, you know, you couldn't have said it better.
07:49And when you look at the constitution of Trinidad and Tobago and, you know, we are legally speaking,
07:54and you see that within Section 4, freedom of the press finds itself in Section 4.
08:00It clearly manifests itself that since our independence, it was very clear of the importance of the press.
08:06And I'm happy that you use that word in terms of ensuring that there is careful, or I should say investigative journalism.
08:13The Honorable Chief Executive Officer, Ms. Thomas, she clearly also identified the need for not only promoting the freedom of the press,
08:21but she put into that article, her interview, responsible journalism.
08:27And I think that's, if it's one word that I'd like, you know, to resonate with us, all of us, is the level of responsibility.
08:33Because the press, you know, you always hear it in layman's terms, can make you and can break you.
08:38So, you know, I just want to call on the press, especially now, where there's a lot of public issues that requires ventilating.
08:46And, you know, I'm asking the press to ensure that they continue to promote and uphold the democracy firmly of Trinidad and Tobago.
08:52So I just wanted to begin with that.
08:53And members of the public, you know, that's your avenue.
08:56I remember Mark as a law student, when you're looking at civil remedies, you know, you'll be looking at filing a civil suit, you know, to be able to, you know, to enjoy, you know, some benefit, or I should say, some remedy, I should say that.
09:12And it was very fascinating when my lecturer identified one of your remedies also to invoke the press, so that you get the matter ventilated.
09:21And perhaps those who require to move into action will be forced into action to be able to treat with a particular matter.
09:27So, you know, I want to say that, for the M&B press, members of the public, that's also an important avenue for you.
09:34And I know that there will be evidence of that in a short while.
09:37Yes, most definitely.
09:38Yes.
09:38All right, let's take a look now at our headlines.
09:42So those are some of the headlines within the last.
10:1224 hours.
10:14And, of course, I know on Monday, I think, Mr. Rambrat had told us about the drowning of a 14-year-old boy, or the disappearance, rather.
10:25And I'm very unfortunate that this morning his body was fished out.
10:32This is express photographer Dexter Phillip on the scene here in Mayaro, where the body of Simri Ragbei was recovered.
10:40As family members looked at his body that was removed in the vicinity of Sunset Beach in Mayaro.
10:48There were several other persons there.
10:50You know, the waters looked pretty rough, choppy, and it was really sad that, you know, a young life lost in this way.
11:02Of course, I'm sure it would have been very traumatic for his parents and other relatives that were on the scene.
11:09Well, definitely, Mark, very unfortunate situation.
11:13And my condolences to the family and to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago when we see situations like these.
11:18And, you know, I always like to, you know, take this opportunity to identify that, you know, the beaches in Trinidad and Tobago, you know,
11:27when there's a heightened natural disaster that is coming our way over in the rainy season, you know, sometimes we do not pay attention to the weather forecast.
11:36Yes.
11:36And I like to extend it where even our beaches, maybe from an ODPM context or even from the appropriate ministry,
11:45that we continue to monitor these beaches to ensure that, you know, whether they are changing currents and, you know,
11:51to ensure that we have proper notice, you know, being placed to be able to guide our citizens.
11:55But, again, a very unfortunate situation and condolences to the family, you know, may God give you the peace at this time.
12:05You know, I know that it will also be subject to, you know, some ongoing investigations to really determine the circumstances.
12:11But at this time, you know, a loss of life is significant and, you know, to the family.
12:17Pray on patience at this time.
12:19Yes, indeed.
12:20All right.
12:21One more upbeat note, of course.
12:24Remember, we highlighted a gentleman that went missing in the Port of Spain area yesterday, 77-year-old Renault Waldrop,
12:34went missing around 12.30 p.m.
12:35And we asked anyone with information leading to his whereabouts to, of course, contact the nearest police station as well.
12:43And we are happy to report, I know Mr. Carmichael from Crime Steppers, who was on the show, messaged me yesterday or rather early this morning to say that he was found and was reunited with his family.
12:58So, clearly some good news there on that front.
13:00Well, excellent news.
13:01You know, Mark, if you just put yourself in a situation where one of your loved ones who is expected to be seen or heard from at a time when they're expected to be seen or heard,
13:10you'll realize that immediately, that you're going to a stage of panic, confusion, chaos.
13:17So, you know, only the persons who would have experienced that will understand what it means.
13:22So, you know, that quick recovery, I should say, or prompt recovery.
13:26I'm sure that family is at ease.
13:29But whatever the circumstances, you know, ensure that we continue to act responsibly.
13:33I don't know what is the situation with reference to the gentleman, but for those who are listening to us,
13:37whether we have old age persons, persons who may be mentally ill, our young people,
13:42let us continue to exercise that level of care and protection for these individuals so that we don't end up in a situation where they go wandering around.
13:49And then we are calling to report a missing person.
13:52And then we are, you know, our families are in a state of depression, you know, grief and what's up looking, you know, to what's happening to the individual.
14:01So, again, excellent news.
14:03And, you know, let us continue to go forward as a society in terms of assisting and helping each other.
14:08Yes, certainly.
14:09All right.
14:10We're going to take a short break.
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17:15Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
17:16I'm your host, Mark Bissand, joined today by Acting Sergeant Zaheer Ali, a 10th law of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
17:22And, you know, Mr. Ali, I was in the Arima area today, you know, really nice people in Arima, you know, spent a couple hours there, you know, as we continue to go around the country speaking to persons about crime and what they think can be done to alleviate this situation.
17:40And, you know, there was an incident about two days ago involving a gentleman who apparently robbed a roti shop nearby just around the Arima velodrome area.
17:51And, you know, some photos were sent out about him.
17:54And incidentally today as well, taxi drivers in the area was also, you know, talking about this individual who was also causing some problems.
18:03There was a previous robbery, somebody he had robbed a couple of weeks ago prior to that somewhere in that said area.
18:10Yes.
18:10So we are hopeful with the assistance of the Arima police that this culprit will be brought to justice.
18:17And of course, hopefully tomorrow we can we can show that photo.
18:20Well, Mark, you know, I'm happy that you again, you know, we spoke about highlighting the importance of the media and, you know, your interaction with members of the public.
18:26Yes.
18:27Definitely brought to the table a need, you know, to look at that particular individual or individuals who may be causing distress and putting persons in fear.
18:36And in this case, robbery, taking matters of value from those individuals.
18:40So again, this forum, you know, bringing a life so that the police, you know, you know, can be alerted and take the necessary steps.
18:46Mark, I think it's a good time.
18:49It would be remiss of me if I don't make mention of it as well.
18:52You know, and we are in our commendation mode this afternoon as well.
18:56You know, from the last time, you know, being on the tape, I want to take this opportunity publicly as well, you know, to recognize the newly minted, well, not national security,
19:08but the Homeland Security Minister, Honorable Minister, Mr. Roger D. Alexander, you know, I want to, you know, recognize him, congratulate him and wish him all the best.
19:17And, you know, the fact that you spoke about crime and criminality, you know, on the platform and knowing him, you know,
19:22I'm sure that these things coming to his attention will be definitely treated with urgency and also to, you know, getting the police service, you know, to get involved.
19:30So, you know, I want to salute him this afternoon, wish him the very best and call on his citizenry, you know, to lend the support to be able to deal with crime and criminality in Trinidad and Tobago.
19:40Mark, may I just say one more thing in relation to the missing person?
19:43We have a caller.
19:43Okay.
19:44Just one show.
19:45Yes?
19:45Caller, good evening.
19:48Good evening, caller.
19:50Good evening.
19:51Good evening, Mr. Mark Bassant.
19:54And to your guest who's there, Sergeant Ali.
19:58Good evening, sir.
19:59Sergeant Ali, I'm going to test the PTPS defense this evening.
20:07The prime minister has set a metric for us.
20:12Six months, sir, basically, make citizens like myself feel a little bit safer.
20:22To me, that is not a major challenge.
20:24I'm not into security, policing, anything like that.
20:30An average citizen with average intelligence.
20:32Now, I want to know what the PTPS is doing for us as a country to achieve that.
20:42The prime minister has set the policy, give one of the metrics, the PTPS, which I believe is one of the key stakeholders to realize this objective.
20:55But looking at the PTPS, for my advantage, they are broken.
21:02The PTPS has broken too many issues surrounding this.
21:06And I don't believe the PTPS has come to terms with cleansing itself with respect to parent officers.
21:16They have not done what I call the corrective, the internal corrective and prevented action for me to be comfortable with.
21:24For example, the PTPS detection rate falls short of any imagination whatsoever.
21:35Some of the issue is that, and I've always said it time and time again, the executive has to be looked at in any serious term.
21:45It has to be looked at, if your leadership is poor, then you're not going anywhere fast.
21:51Likewise, in the, the, the, all the ministers, et cetera.
21:56And I have seen too many times that judges have asked for senior officers to be held account.
22:07What are the systems in place for that to happen?
22:11And I'm going to identify a couple of them.
22:13For example, the promotional issue, where we see the promotion is not based on meritocracy.
22:22It's based on friendship.
22:24Nobody passed the exam and they reached to the top.
22:26And we have all those layers questionable.
22:29I want to go back to the day of policing.
22:32That is a damning report.
22:34And a lot of those people who were head of divisions, i.e. the executive.
22:37I want to go back to two years before that, there was a day in question where they abandoned the prime minister and the attorney general.
22:49And everybody, most of the people, particularly second division, said it was blue flu, a virus.
22:58And I'm hoping that the police service now has the vaccine for that.
23:03I would not like a repeat.
23:05And I would like a proper selection based on the merit list.
23:10When it goes to parliament, everything is fleshed out.
23:13And the police service itself and the police service commission understand how citizens like myself feel about it.
23:21Because if we don't correct the misgiving of the TTPS now, that target would have failed and the TTPS would have failed the decision of Trinidad and Tobago and, by example, the leadership of this country.
23:35Good afternoon.
23:36And I hope you would respond to that list not fair.
23:39Thanks, sir.
23:39Kola.
23:40Well, thank you very much, Mark.
23:42And Kola, let me thank you very much, you know, quite a lot.
23:44And I hear the passion in your voice.
23:47Mark, some very significant points.
23:49And I cannot address all because of the interest of time.
23:52But I think a very important matter where great policies can be prejudiced if there is no effective, successful implementation of the policies.
24:03And that's a very significant matter.
24:05And, you know, we need to be frank and open that looking at the institutions, the various public, whether it be the prison service, whether it be the TTPS, whether it be the defense force, whether it be customs, what have you.
24:15Excellent policy from our governmental context.
24:17And if it's not well supported by effective implementation, and when we're speaking implementation, I can go on and on by speaking about it.
24:25The Kola spoke about it in terms of leadership at every rank to ensure that we get the policy implemented and achieve the results.
24:33And, you know, when we give ourselves a timeline, that's a challenge that the Honorable Prime Minister and the government has given to us.
24:40We must embrace it.
24:41And equally, our response is just as important.
24:44So, Kola, your points are well taken.
24:47It is very important.
24:49Just today, as a matter of fact, I was sitting and reflecting to see, you know, where we can make our contribution and implementation seems to be a very significant matter.
24:58And, you know, sometime I go on another platform, Mark.
25:00I spoke about being fit for purpose without being prejudiced, fit for purpose, and looking at putting Trinidad and Tobago first, putting the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago first, and reminding ourselves that we continue to be plagued by crime and criminality.
25:14Just recently, we heard about the home invasion in South, where persons were raped, persons were beaten and robbed.
25:21So, these things are going to continue to manifest itself if we are not effectively responding to these matters.
25:27But, Kola, I thank you very much.
25:28And again, Mark, evidence.
25:31Kola using the media platform on behalf of the citizenry to be able to bring solutions, to be critical of the institutions.
25:38Quickly, Mark, just to go back to the person who was reported missing, and the excellent work of Beyond the Tape in terms of highlighting it.
25:45You know, I just want to say to the citizenry, in a case where your family member or your friend is reported missing, and that person returns home safely, you have a responsibility and a duty to alert the media and to alert the police,
25:58so that we do not waste time and waste the opportunity to be putting persons up who will not be in, when you look at the evidence, they are not missing.
26:08They are not with their family.
26:10So, we need to be able to update the record immediately when persons are reported missing and when they return home.
26:17Because it could be a situation where the police, you might be with your mother or your father, but the police do not know that.
26:23And the police may pull on you because they feel, okay, you have found the missing person.
26:27So, I just want to share with you and Trinidad and Tobago, just as we have a duty to report when the person is missing, when the person comes home or returns home,
26:36we have a responsibility to update the record, media, police, and other avenues.
26:40So, I just wanted to share that this afternoon.
26:42All right. Thanks a lot for that, and thanks for your call, Kola.
26:45We're going to take a short break, and we'll be back.
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31:13Thank you very much.
31:16Thank you very much, Kola.
31:17I mean, uttering a threat on itself is a report to be made.
31:22There's a lot of information, but, you know, in terms of, I don't have the full facts, but
31:27generally speaking, in terms of what you have described, you know, I want us to be looking
31:31in the, and you were right about taking actions early before it manifests itself into a murder.
31:36And she would explain that the person may have already attempted or would have been engaging
31:40through the use of a motor vehicle to be able to inflict harm.
31:43There are many things that we could look at.
31:45We could look at assault.
31:47If there, if the person, and I'm just simply sort of assault, where if a person believe that
31:52through words or actions that there is the likelihood of the unlawful immediate violence
31:59or inflicting violence on a person and there's an immediate apprehension, simply put, that
32:04person can, that can give rise to an assault.
32:07If the victim, you know, gives that sort of evidence on how that victim feels in that
32:10situation.
32:11And then it can go further, where you have assault, occasional, actual bodily harm, in
32:15terms of when there's contact.
32:17Then you could have a situation where harassment, where on several occasions, more than two occasions,
32:22that you are causing a person to be distressed, to be aggrieved, and that sort of thing.
32:28You know, so there are a number of things that could be happened, that could occur in relation
32:31to that state of affairs.
32:33And we are not speaking in terms of wounding and inflicting grievous bodily harm.
32:38Those are the most serious matters.
32:40But in terms of what you have explained, simplicity to assault, and be reminded, an
32:45assault, Mark, do not need contact.
32:47Yeah.
32:48You can, by your words, by your actions, you can cause someone to apprehend the unlawful
32:54violence on their person, which puts them in fear, makes them scared.
32:58That's as an assault.
32:59So when we are speaking about threats to kill, if that is, if that manifests itself, we
33:04have a breach of the criminal law.
33:06And it can, you know, be exaggerated if you have contact, if you have break of the skin,
33:11and it can go up all the way to murder.
33:13So, yes, very serious matters.
33:15And Kola, thank you for bringing it.
33:17That area of harassment, Mark, it appears to me that we have not ventilated that properly
33:23in the public domain.
33:24A lot of people do not recognize that too unwanted engagement with an individual, whether it
33:29be by phone, whether it be following, whether it be going to their place on two or more occasions
33:34where it is not justified, you can be running into a problem where the criminal law is concerned,
33:39and there are also other remedies like other actions that one can take.
33:43So, Kola, thank you very much for your question, and at the same time for the public's information.
33:50All right.
33:51We have another call on the line.
33:52Kola, good evening.
33:53Good evening.
33:54Good evening.
33:55Good evening, sir.
33:56Good evening, Corporal Ali, Acting Sergeant Ali.
34:01I am a retired police officer.
34:04Recently, sometime this week, earlier this week, a friend of mine called me and told me
34:09that he made a report to the Manzanilla Police Station.
34:13The police did not contact him for two weeks.
34:16When he went back to that station to inquire about the status of his report, he was told
34:22that the police officer who is investigating his report is exempted from outdoor duties.
34:30An active police officer is exempted from outdoor duties.
34:35So, my question to you is, how can a police officer be effective in his duties
34:43and perform his duties to his maximum ability by being exempted from outdoor duties?
34:52These police officers who are exempted from outdoor duties should be sent before the medical board
34:58to ascertain their effectiveness to work?
35:01Okay, Kola, hold on one second.
35:03Kola, one second, if you're hearing me.
35:05Kola?
35:06Yes?
35:07Yes?
35:08That's very, very important, and that's why I interjected.
35:10Normally, I wait for the caller to speak, but this is a very serious matter.
35:13Just do me a favor.
35:14Just leave a contact number, or if you do not want to leave a contact number, leave the information
35:19with reference to that particular officer, and I would advise strongly the executive to
35:23pull that file and have an investigation done to see what the circumstances surrounding
35:27that officer, and we will treat with it from there.
35:29So, thank you very much for bringing it, but you continue.
35:35Kola?
35:36Yes, just one more.
35:37It's not happening in that station alone in Eastern Division, you know?
35:41Okay, well, let's start with it in that division, and then we will look at it from a TTPS
35:45so that we can set an example in going forward.
35:47So, please leave the information because I'm very much interested in treating those sort of matters.
35:52Yes, Kola?
35:56Alright, I think Kola has gone.
35:58Obviously, that's a pretty serious situation, an indictment even on the police officer and the police service.
36:08If something like this is happening, you make a report, and two weeks later you try to inquire what's happening,
36:14and then they said, the person that is investigating your particular matter is exempted from outdoor duties.
36:22If something happened within that two-week period, yes, I can understand.
36:26Yes.
36:27But if they just give you a reason I'm exempted from outdoor duties, then there's some question marks there, obviously.
36:33Well, let's go a little bit further, Mark.
36:35I'm not only looking at the context of someone taking a position that they're exempted.
36:39That has to be investigated to see whether, in fact, there's a legitimacy to it, okay?
36:42But I'm looking at the context where if you are calling and you're looking at proper supervision and management and leadership,
36:49in a situation like that, at least someone will be on the case to be able to continue to progress the case.
36:54It is not a situation where you leave something abeyance and someone just go their way and justice is being frustrated.
37:00So, I feel a Kola's pain, and hence why I interjected to get the information,
37:05and I personally will strongly advise the executive in the Eastern Division and as well as the executive of the TTPS
37:12to have a look at that matter because, as the Kola indicated, there may be many matters or many situations prevailing the land of Trinidad and Tobago.
37:19And when you are called or you are asking to serve the people of Trinidad and Tobago to detect crime and other infraction of the law,
37:27that's a very serious responsibility and we want all hands on deck.
37:31So, if there's a legitimate situation, okay, we can allow due process to follow.
37:36But at the same time, that person's matter must not be frustrated with a non-intervention.
37:41So, there must be proper leadership, proper supervision, and let's look and continue to review that file.
37:47And may I say, that Kola, when he spoke about referring the person to the medical board,
37:51it's telling you that members of the public, they are very switched on as to what should be the protocols
37:57when persons are complaining about whether there's a medical situation
38:01because there are policies and there are processes set up.
38:04What we need is enforcement, and it goes back to the first Kola,
38:07who spoke about the importance of ensuring that there's a police service that is highly functional at all levels.
38:14It must definitely be. All right, we're going to take a short break, and we'll be back.
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40:12Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
40:38If I'm here, who is Mark Bassand, it's Legally Speaking Wednesdays, and of course, today
40:42with us, Acting Sergeant Zaheer Ali of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service and the Tenet Law.
40:48We want to remind you of the numbers to call, 623-1711, Extensions 1996 and 1997.
40:56We have a call on the line.
40:58Caller, good evening.
41:01Yeah, hello, good evening.
41:02Good evening, caller.
41:03Go ahead, you're live and beyond the ship.
41:05Yeah, thank you for taking the call.
41:07Good afternoon to everybody in the studio.
41:09I want to find out something about insurance and accidents and stuff.
41:18I got in an accident last week.
41:21A guy ran into the back of my vehicle and I ran up underneath the next vehicle.
41:27And, you know, after talking to some of the people who had previous experiences like that,
41:37they were saying that most of the time the insurance companies do not really give you enough money to fix your vehicle
41:45and you might have come out of pocket to get money to fix back your vehicle after you were,
41:53there wasn't any wrong, traffic was at standstill and this guy just flowed into my, my vehicle.
42:02It had no skid marks, no nothing to show that he tried to stop.
42:05He just ran straight into my and I ran up under a van.
42:08So I want to know if it has any request for somebody like me to try to get,
42:15because I maintain my vehicle, regular check, properly.
42:22And for me to now have to take money out and my pocket to fix back my vehicle,
42:28I find something wrong with that.
42:30So I was wondering, in a situation like that, what kind of redress I could get to probably,
42:38help my situation.
42:40Any advice, Sergeant?
42:42Kuala, I want to advise you on public, leave a number and, you know, I'll communicate with you,
42:47but your circumstances, I'm sure that there's a remedy that can be pursued.
42:51So just leave a number.
42:52So, you know, I don't want to be advising you on public, on television so that we can deal with it,
42:57because I may need to probably ask you some further questions so you can be directed properly.
43:02Yes, Kuala?
43:03Well, all right, so we're hopeful that you leave this, because I know if you're in traffic jam,
43:09and he's caught in the middle, right?
43:12So somebody runs into you, and then you run into somebody else.
43:15What is the standard procedure?
43:17Is it that you have to pay for the person that you hit in front,
43:21and the person that hit you have to pay?
43:24Is that the standard procedure?
43:25I'm just asking in a general sense.
43:26Well, you know, generally speaking, Mark, where you have to start?
43:29You have to start out looking at where there's a road traffic accident.
43:32So I will be interested in looking at the investigation in the first instance.
43:35Right.
43:36And from the investigation, an investigation obviously will look at the certificate of insurance,
43:41the policy that governs that particular vehicle,
43:43and look at the insurance of the other vehicle,
43:46so that it has to look at it in its entirety,
43:48and then now you can have an effective engagement with the insurance companies accordingly
43:53to be able to look at that particular situation.
43:55Because he's explaining a chain that one car hits another,
44:02and then this car goes on to another vehicle.
44:04So there's a lot of issues regarding causation when you're looking at the damages
44:08that the various vehicles will sustain.
44:10So hence why I need some further facts and to have a sight as to exactly what it is revealing,
44:16because had I gone into it, it would have been lengthy in terms of at this stage.
44:19We don't even know whether a police report was made.
44:22We don't know what's the finding of the police investigation,
44:24because you may learn some very strange things, Mark.
44:27That the fact that a vehicle, you know, and I don't want to go into it,
44:30but you're looking at inspection issues, you're looking at, you know,
44:33the way that the person was driving on the road,
44:34you're looking at the, you know, the regulations governing that particular area,
44:38many different things.
44:39So it's best suited to have a discussion, you know, on a one-on-one
44:43so he can be advised and directed accordingly.
44:45All right.
44:45We have another call on the line.
44:46Caller, good evening.
44:48Yeah, good evening.
44:50Go ahead.
44:50You're live.
44:51Yes, sir.
44:52I'm concerned the present documentation,
44:57the gentleman just did there, the 1-1-1.
45:00Due to the accidental light, I just make a report concerning that
45:04the insurance is supposed to have,
45:08so it should be insurance that even to a party or police department.
45:11So he needs to be excused.
45:15Secondly, he must make his report,
45:18the other party must make his report,
45:19so the police at the station would advise them concerning the insurance.
45:24Because normally, when on the road is third party,
45:28primarily highways is a different ticket and parity bus route
45:33is a different special road traffic.
45:35So third party is a risk.
45:39So you have to pay deposit if you're wrong and then,
45:44or if you're right, you must pay deposit and then get a chance at it.
45:49But that's what I can say concerning that one.
45:51That's A.
45:52B.
45:52I want to find out if we still have the children protection program
45:57under the national ministry award.
46:03Under the ministry, right?
46:04I would just like to find out if we still issued for this term coming up
46:18after a brutal election.
46:19Kolar, we're not quite clear on your second question, though.
46:25We have children protection program that was issued recently for nation-wide.
46:31There is not motor vehicle traffic after.
46:33There is internal.
46:34Kolar, thank you very much for supporting that position.
47:04But your second issue, we will deal with it subsequently.
47:07Kolar, you seem to have a good knowledge about involving the accident,
47:11about what is required with the insurance,
47:14the type of insurance, of course.
47:15And then when you go to the station,
47:18what guidance you should receive from the police officers in relation to this.
47:22But we have another Kolar in line.
47:24Kolar, good evening.
47:26Good evening to two eminent young men.
47:28Good evening, sir.
47:29I'm going to raise two points.
47:31Sorry, you will just figure out this one.
47:34Our younger brother was being elevated to member of parliament and no minister.
47:45One of the things I wanted to see, but I saw it recently on a TV,
47:49where the present COP had to greet him.
47:54I didn't get a chance to literally call you, but I saw the greetings.
47:57In a case like that, how would you address the present member of parliament?
48:06Would you address him in his former rank, or would you address him in his present situation?
48:16That is one.
48:17And the other one is that I want to commend the police, because on Saturday night, one of my neighbors went missing.
48:28And I called in Sunday morning.
48:29I think I spoke to a Corporal Khan, and he advised me what documents or what information he would want me to bring.
48:39So I went to the house, and speaking with the people at the house, I got, I think, most of the relevant information.
48:47I really and truly, I'm calling this to explain and to commend the professional attitude that our officer had charged, I don't know what it was about.
49:05But the way they treated me, like I didn't really want to leave this station.
49:09So on Sunday evening, when my nephew was found, I called them from where they were, and I said,
49:16the first thing you have to do is go to the station and report that you are no longer missing.
49:23And then I, fortunately for me, when I called back, I got the same officer charge, I don't know what it was around here.
49:30And I explained to him what had just transpired, and to expect them as an astronaut.
49:35So these are the things I think we need to follow up on.
49:40So in fact, we want the members of the public, in a case like that, to follow a similar pattern.
49:48I will listen to the rest of the day. I thank you.
49:50All right, caller, thanks for those submissions. We're going to respond after this short break. Stay with us.
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50:59Thank you, members of the media. This concludes our weekly press briefing.
51:06As the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service continues to protect and serve with pride,
51:11we are calling on all citizens of Trinidad and Tobago to get on board with us,
51:17to ensure that everyone is able to live in a crime-free society.
51:24Are you on board?
51:27This is my country, and I am on board.
51:31I am on board with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
51:35Let us save the youth of the nation.
51:37Get on board.
51:38Crime affects all of us.
51:40Children, communities, and the country as a whole.
51:43Supporting crime victims and working with the police service, I am on board.
51:49This is my country, and I am on board.
51:53My name is Nikolai Blackmon, and I am on board with the TTPS.
51:58Vision on Mission is proud to partner with the TTPS,
52:02because crime prevention is everybody's business.
52:05We are the National Congress of Incorporated Spiritual Baptist Organizations of Trinidad and Tobago,
52:11and we are on board with the TTPS in its fight against crime.
52:15I am a farmer.
52:16This is my country, and I am on board.
52:19I am Charles Jason Gordon, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Port of Spain.
52:24I am on board in the TTPS fight against crime.
52:28We are all on board.
52:29We are all on board.
52:29We are all on board.
52:29We are all on board.
52:34Welcome back to Beyond the TTPS, my host, Mark Bessant.
52:45It's Legally Speaking Wednesdays, and of course, with us, Acting Sergeant Ziki Yali,
52:49attorney at law of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
52:51and I know you have a couple of questions that you need to answer from the last caller, so go ahead.
52:56Thank you very much, Mark.
52:57Caller, thank you very much for your two issues,
53:01and to deal with them quickly, let me deal with the positive, Mark.
53:03You know, hence why I was so passionate a while ago when I hear members of the public complain about police officers.
53:11But in this case, a positive commendation in relation to the Gaspar River Police,
53:15and I want to salute them, and I hope that that can be contagious, you know,
53:20among the rank and file of the police service.
53:21So, you know, I want to salute you, and thank you very much, Caller, on behalf of the police service.
53:25The other issue with reference to the, referring to the Honorable Minister of Homeland Security,
53:34the Honorable Roger D. Alexander.
53:37I think, you know, my respectful view, if we go back to the oath of office that he took in the President's House,
53:43you'll see exactly where the Honorable Minister of Homeland Security,
53:49so that, as a former police officer, when you resign, from my last recollection,
53:55that rank of senior superintendent remains with the police service.
53:58That do not follow you.
53:59If you're speaking about someone, you can speak about their background and their history and what they did.
54:03But if you're approaching the Honorable Minister, you should be respectful, come to an attention,
54:09and if you're in uniform, you salute the minister.
54:11If you're not in uniform, you come to an attention, and you report Honorable Minister of Homeland Security,
54:17and you proceed.
54:18So I'll answer it like that, but pay particular attention to the oath of office that the individual took,
54:23and you'll recognize that you didn't see anything with senior superintendent attached to the oath of office.
54:27Agreed.
54:29Having said that, the previous caller, I want to, what came to me from the producer,
54:34if we are looking at the Children's Authority in Trinidad and Tobago,
54:36at this time, I should say before, it was placed under the office of the Prime Minister,
54:41with the new dispensation in terms of social development, family services.
54:46I do not know whether it will be shifted to that particular ministry,
54:49but until such time, it's within the office of the Prime Minister,
54:52so we'll wait and see when the different portfolios are clearly enshrined,
54:56or gazetted as the case may be.
54:58And last but not least, Mark, I want to spend this last minute, or last couple seconds.
55:02A mother, a mother is of significance in every aspect,
55:10and we do not have to go into detail in terms of the importance of a mother.
55:14Every single one of us came from a mother,
55:17and we know that the international community,
55:19our national community will be observing Mother's Day on Sunday,
55:22and I want to take this opportunity to urge you to continue to treat your mother every single day
55:28with the respect and the dignity that she requires.
55:31In many scriptures, and I can speak from where I came from,
55:36a mother is considered so deeply that if you treat your mother well,
55:43you can have a door to heaven.
55:45And, you know, I don't have the opportunity to share a story,
55:48but I just want to leave you all by respecting your mother
55:51for your mother's love is of importance,
55:55and when she wish you well, no door can close against you.
55:59So to the mothers in Trinidad and Tobago,
56:01and even those who may not be biological,
56:03you know, I want to wish you happy Mother's Day,
56:05and may God continue to bless each and every one of you all.
56:07Mark?
56:08Yes, well said, well said.
56:09I concur.
56:11Yes.
56:12Most definitely, and, you know, as I said,
56:14we want to wish them a happy Mother's Day in advance, of course, right?
56:20And my mother's love.
56:21There's nothing like a mother's love.
56:22Yes.
56:23All right, we run tonight at 11.30.
56:27Repeat tomorrow at 11 o'clock.
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