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03:07Welcome to Beyond the Tape.
03:28I'm your host, Mark Bassan.
03:29Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago, our global viewers, and of course,
03:34our brothers and sisters in the Isle of Grenada.
03:37It's smack in the middle of the week.
03:39It's Wednesday, and you know what today is.
03:42It's legally speaking Wednesdays.
03:44And with us, it's none other than acting sergeant, Zakir Ali, attorney at law of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
03:51Welcome to you, sir.
03:53Well, as always, Mark, good evening to you.
03:55Thanks for your warm introduction.
03:57Good evening to Jackie and our family members and Beyond the Tape who, you know, give all that support.
04:02You know, on a weekly basis, and to my law enforcement colleagues, Mark, and also, most importantly, the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago.
04:12I know this afternoon, and I should say over the week, I've came across a lot of individuals, again, who have expressed a lot of positivity
04:22in reference to the Beyond the Tape program.
04:24And as a matter of fact, just minutes ago, you know, I was at an establishment, and I was approached by, you know, an individual who, you know,
04:33made a very strong request for us to continue to advocate, you know, for motorists to be responsible on the nation's road.
04:43Yes, certainly.
04:43You know, that was, you know, refreshing, you know, just my way of, you know, reference, you know,
04:51when you think that persons are not paying attention, you know, persons are, in fact, paying attention,
04:56and they find the time to come up to you, to continue to ask you to do the work that you're doing.
05:01So I just wanted to share that to you and Jackie and other family members of Beyond the Tape,
05:05and, you know, to all those, you know, who have come across over the last couple of weeks, over the last couple of months,
05:10and I want to thank you all very much for your support, and let us continue to hold our hands together,
05:15and, you know, progress Trinidad and Tobago in the way that it should be progressed.
05:18Well, certainly there's a lot to speak about, you know, we've had a couple of homicides over the last few days.
05:24Yes.
05:24And for those who have been measuring it since the new government came into office,
05:32it's approximately 170-odd murders or thereabouts that persons are seeing.
05:38And people are, obviously, there are persons that are questioning the state of emergency, the public that is.
05:43Some asking, there was a recent man on the street asking if they thought it was effective in some measure.
05:50Some saying yes, some saying no.
05:52Some saying they really haven't really seen any major shift or change.
05:56But I imagine from a law enforcement perspective, it's extremely important as we continue in this next three months of the state of emergency
06:06that, you know, police officers continue to press on.
06:11And I know it's not always smooth sailing, but officers are engaged in trying to rid this country of criminal elements
06:20and illicit contraband across the country, guns, drugs, you name it.
06:27Well, Mark, you know, you have said a lot.
06:29And it's always important to respect the different perspectives of the various stakeholders.
06:39You know, we have to respect the various perspectives.
06:42And importantly as well, we need to pay attention to the perspectives.
06:46But what I want to say is that crime and criminality has played Trinidad and Topic for a period of time and continues to do so.
06:53And it's important for us with the present state of emergency, the enhanced powers,
06:58and I'm certain over the next couple of days that you may be seeing additional or enhanced emergency powers regulations,
07:06you know, continuous amendments to ensure that, you know, law enforcement is equipped with, you know, deep enforcement powers.
07:13It's important for us to utilize this particular period as effective as possible.
07:19And when I say utilize it effective, I mean utilize it effective in all respects.
07:24So, at this stage, you know, to be doing an assessment, you know, I will want to basically just change the narrative a little bit,
07:33you know, to be urging law enforcement to, you know, continue to pursue the weapon of choice.
07:41And in this case, the high-power rifles, we saw what happened in Penal.
07:44Yes, we did.
07:45A couple of days, I think, over the weekend, if it was.
07:47So, it's important for us to, you know, capitalize on the emergency powers that are afforded to law enforcement.
07:54And this case in point, you know, I'm not going through the regulation, but that power to enter premises without warrant,
08:00where you suspect that persons may be in possession of fire, ammunition, and explosives.
08:05You know, I want to urge the law enforcement agencies, and this is both TTPS and Defense Force and other supporting agencies,
08:11to continue, you know, to enforce those provisions in an effort to be able to retrieve and arrest persons who are in possession,
08:21whether actual or constructive, of these high-power rifles that cause or are causing a prejudice to public safety and security.
08:28Additionally, while we have the powers to enter premises to search for illegal items, firearms, explosives, and ammunition,
08:38you know, I want to also urge them to be able to be looking at building out investigations, even within the state of emergency.
08:45So, it's not a situation where you're just going to be arresting and detaining persons,
08:49but you expect to see some compatibility with the progress of investigations,
08:55so that persons who are involved in gang and gang-related activities,
08:58they are charged and placed before a court of competent jurisdiction.
09:01So, you know, I think it is important for us to continue to be doing a review on a daily basis,
09:08but geared towards ramping up the efforts, because we are still seeing crime and criminality,
09:13you know, in various parts of Trinidad and Tobago, and I think that is, I would not say that I'm surprised,
09:21because I said before, Trinidad and Tobago has been plagued with very serious acts of criminality.
09:25We have seen it within our prison system and out of our prison system.
09:29So, it's important for us to, you know, utilize this particular period with the enhanced powers to be able to deal with crime and criminality.
09:40And also, Mark, it's also important as well, you know, while we're on this topic,
09:43and I know that we have seen this video, clearly a clever demonstration,
09:47where persons who may be associating, enjoying a moment,
09:51you are seeing that the criminal element has no respect for commercial activities or any association,
09:59any gathering when they are bent on committing the acts of criminality.
10:03And, you know, just looking at serious crimes, you know, murders, kidnappings,
10:07possession of firearms, you know, shootings, woundings, and so forth.
10:13So, the point that I'd like to leave is that we need to continue to ramp up the efforts and make use of these regulations.
10:21I know that, you know, a lot has been given to law enforcement, a lot is expected of law enforcement.
10:25And equally, before I close and hand back over to you on this point,
10:28the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago, Mark, we must always recognize that the state of emergency
10:33is not simply powers afforded to the police,
10:36but it's an opportunity for every single citizen to get involved,
10:40to be able to play their role, because it's a state of a public emergency.
10:44We are members of the public.
10:46And may I say to you as well, members of the media,
10:49that we also rely heavily on the media to support us in this juncture.
10:54Well said, Sergeant Ali, of course.
10:57We know that, as you said, the public engagement is equally important
11:01if we are to rid the streets of illicit firearms, drugs,
11:04and persons who are involved in illegal activities going forward.
11:08That's correct.
11:09All right, so this month we had our fourth homicide.
11:15This morning, a 27-year-old man was shot and killed in the Mirage Trace,
11:21Quarry Road, San Juan area.
11:24His alias is Omar.
11:27Apparently, he was found in a drain around 2.30 a.m. this morning.
11:32And this follows the mood of self.
11:34Of course, we had the one on Sunday in Penal.
11:37And then we also had two, one in the Gaspeler area on Monday,
11:42and one in the Lavantel area also on Monday.
11:46That was a photo of, I think his name, we are not sure,
11:50it's a Fasan Sukwa, subject to be confirmed,
11:53confirmed by his alias is Omar, image of him there, shot and killed his body,
11:58found this morning in a drain in the San Juan area.
12:01Well, again, Mark, you know, the statistics, you know, speak for themselves in relation to, you know,
12:06whether incrementally or otherwise.
12:08You're seeing the acts of violence and you're seeing the murder toll, you know, ticking along.
12:14And hence, you know, to reinforce the point that I made in terms of utilizing this particular period,
12:20Mark, if you look at that emergency powers regulation, it's very deep.
12:22You know, we have asked for it and it's important for us to use it to the length and breadth,
12:27you know, in terms of those emergency powers regulations.
12:31But notwithstanding that the emergency powers regulations are there,
12:34there are still other laws that have been existing that we need to also make use of.
12:39And, you know, when you're in a state of emergency as well,
12:41it may be a good time for, for example, other ministries, you know,
12:45to maybe lend their support in relation to what it is that we're experiencing as a nation.
12:50So, yes, law enforcement is leading the fight, but again, it's important for every citizen,
12:54every stakeholder to make their contribution in relation to the position that we're in
12:58and utilize every single law that exists to be able to deal with this crime and criminality that we are facing.
13:05We are heavily dependent on the, as I said before, information and intelligence
13:09from the citizenry to be able to move these processes.
13:13So, when you've seen a shooting that occurred in, in, in Pinal on Saturday,
13:17it is very clear that there are still a number of high-powered rifles within Trinidad and Tobago.
13:23And it's important for us to get our hands on these high-powered rifles.
13:28And also, when we get our hands on them to ensure that the borders are also protected
13:33from firearm and ammunition re-entering Trinidad and Tobago.
13:37So, it's really a task at hand, but it's not an impossible task,
13:41but it calls for commitment, dedication, and decisive decision-making.
13:46Yes.
13:47So, just switching gears a bit, of course, we have been highlighting the missing persons here on this program.
13:54And, of course, there was a candlelight vigil held last, on Monday night, sorry, for Theodore B's gun part.
14:04And I'm sure you would have been familiar.
14:06You know, he went to collect his vehicle at the, the mechanics.
14:10And, uh, since then, he, supposedly missing since July 23rd, very well-known in the Ottawa Marian area.
14:19That's, uh, Nicholas Morris, the MP for the areas there, uh, joining the candlelight vigil,
14:25uh, with the hope that somebody who has information about Mr. Gunpat and his vehicle will come forward to the police.
14:35I, I recall that, um, his family, his relatives were speaking to the media, I believe, yesterday.
14:42And what they said was that he was unable to actually drive a motor vehicle because, uh, some of his toes had been, uh, amputated.
14:51So, we don't know exactly the circumstances surrounding his disappearance.
14:57Uh, the police are still trying to piece that together.
15:00But they, they did speak with, uh, certain persons that would have seen him last.
15:04I think his mechanic said he came, he picked up the vehicle and so on, and he left.
15:08And after that, he seemed to have disappeared into thin air.
15:12Well, Mark, you know, it's just unfortunate, um, and, you know, to that family, you know, that family, you know,
15:16only, you know, only God knows what's, you know, um, they're experiencing.
15:21And, you know, I hope that they, you know, pray and patience at this time for the family.
15:24But, you know, when you see a community and, you know, we, you recognize the member of parliament for, um, Mayaro
15:30and, you know, a member of this government, Nicholas Morrison, you know, it, it is, it is refreshing and inspiring,
15:36you know, to see that, you know, he's joining hands with the community.
15:39And the important part is the statement that this community, community is sending.
15:44You see a community that is coming out to lend that support, you know, to share in that, that, um, that period of, of, of, of concern.
15:53I mean, it's, it's really revealing.
15:55And this is what we want as a nation.
15:57You know, I go back to your favorite person, Sir Robert Peel.
16:02And what they are demonstrating, they are demonstrating making a very strong, it may appear to be silent,
16:06but a very strong representation that we are not going to condone this.
16:12Every human being is important.
16:14Mark, on the last occasion we were here, we spoke about the dignity of the human being.
16:18We spoke about it from an exploitation context, human trafficking context.
16:21But this is a situation that someone is missing.
16:24Someone is unaccounted for.
16:25Someone who should have been, um, someone who's expected to return home at a particular time is not home.
16:31And there's no justification for why that person is not home.
16:34Um, so, you know, it's, it's very, very, um, concerning.
16:38And again, units like the anti-kidnapping unit, um, and even the station district, you know, again, we need to ramp up the efforts.
16:45Um, I know that you all have shown a photograph of the individual, Mark.
16:49And, um, I will urge the family and, you know, all other stakeholders to continue to share that, you know, very wide.
16:55Um, so that, you know, persons, you know, pay attention.
16:57That person could be, that person could be in your community.
17:00Um, that, you could be passing that person and you don't know.
17:03You know, so let us be vigilant and let us share and lend the support to be able to, um, to find this individual and to bring persons who may be responsible if there's acts of criminality to justice as soon as reasonably practicable.
17:15All right.
17:17So we're going to take a quick look now at our figures.
17:21State of emergency, date 20.
17:26So, number of operations, 1,488.
17:29Target prior to offenders, 679.
17:33Searches conducted, 9,451.
17:36Traffic operations, 894.
17:39Total persons arrested thus far, 637.
17:41Traffic offenses detected, 4,924.
17:47Firearms recovered, 30 pistols, 16 revolvers, 8 shotguns, 7 rifles, and 2 air rifles.
17:55421 wrongs of 9mm.
17:5763 wrongs of 12 gauge.
18:0021 wrongs of 0.380.
18:02170 wrongs of 0.5, sorry.
18:0657 wrongs of 0.38.
18:0827 wrongs of 0.40.
18:107 wrongs of 0.35, 721 wrongs of 0.45, and 30 wrongs of 7.62 millimeters.
18:20Dangerous drugs seized thus far 70,320.75 grams of marijuana and 225.8 grams of cocaine.
18:30Well, again, Mark, I always attribute the statistics to the good work of the law enforcement agencies and also to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago who are providing this information to be able to achieve these results.
18:44Now, I always like to do some analysis quickly on the chart.
18:47And when you look at that last caliber of ammunition, 7.62, for those who may not know, you can Google it.
18:56Very, very powerful.
18:5830 wrongs of 0.762 ammunition at the bottom.
19:02The second-to-last, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, very, very, very, very, very, um, impactful when we are talking about prejudicial to public safety and security.
19:15And those 7.62 mark is used in rifles.
19:20So, again, to have 30 wrongs of the street, you know, um, it may appear to be small, but that can cause very significant damage.
19:28And, you know, um, I always like to be critical of the chart.
19:33I spoke about looking at persons who are charged under the state of emergency.
19:36And I also want to speak about another column that we may have to add.
19:40And the other column is that at this time, there are several preventative detention orders that have been issued under the hands of the Honourable Minister of Homeland Security.
19:49And it's important for us to share this with members of the public, because perhaps very soon we may be calling on members of the public to assist us to identify with some of those persons in order to restrict liberty and movement.
20:02Because those persons, according to the law, is persons who the minister is satisfied based on an application that they are acting in a manner that is prejudicial to public safety and security.
20:12So, at this time, we cannot allow those persons to be moving freely around Trinidad and Tobago.
20:16So, again, very important area, um, with reference to bringing to the attention of members of the public that the state of emergency powers, um, is being effectively utilized even by the hands of the Minister of Homeland Security for the granting of preventative detention orders with persons, and I want to repeat, who are acting in a manner prejudicial to public safety.
20:38So, that area that we may have to add, Mark, so that the citizen is aware of the, how we are utilizing the emergency powers regulation for their safety, um, and in order to progress some of the ongoing investigation.
20:53So, again, thank you very much for your reporting of that particular, um, findings.
20:58Well, I imagine, uh, that, that detention order you speak about will be gazetted, so that, uh, the public will be aware, and of course, once it becomes public knowledge, obviously, we will be able to use that here on Beyond the Tape as well.
21:12Well, excellent, Mark, and when you speak about being gazetted, it means that you are following the discussion, and again, this is, this is, this is what we require, you know, persons, you know, being aware of the entire processes, and I'm happy that, you know, I've introduced it, and I'm happy that you have, you know, responded in any way that you have responded, and, you know, I must also take this opportunity, Mark, with the Communications Department of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
21:33You know, sometimes we don't mention them as often, um, Ms. Archie and others, you know, the information they provide, the notices that they provide to Trinidad and Tobago, you know, um, sometimes we tend to downplay the importance of effective communication, and this is where you will understand it better than us.
21:50If you don't bring to the attention of members of the public, they will not know what's happening in Trinidad and Tobago.
21:55If you do not probe, and I, I must commend you of a story I saw with the, um, with the Trillions recently, where an excellent piece of reporting, and you saw a state agency was moved into action to initiate a criminal investigation.
22:08So, um, to the Communications Department, you know, you all may not have been, you all are not on the forefront to say that you all are executing searches, charging, and so forth, but the, the role and functions you all play is educating the public to ensure that we have the trust and confidence of the public
22:23to know what the TTPS is doing. So, Ms. Archie, I salute you and your members of your Communications Department this afternoon.
22:30Yes, special good afternoon to you, Ms. Archie, and, um, continue the good work you'll be doing for so long now.
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26:33Welcome back to Beyond the Tape, I'm your host, Mark Bussan, joined today by Acting Sergeant Saheer Ali, a tenure at law with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
27:00It's legally speaking Wednesdays. Just to bring you up to speed, we understand a short while ago that there was alleged shooting in the Taquerico area where police would have given chase.
27:13We understand that one of our express reporters is on the scene checking it out, and one car thief has been shot dead in the Taquerico area.
27:22And we also were told shortly, a short while ago, within the last hour, hour and a half, that there was also an incident in the Valencia area where two persons were shot and killed, allegedly after opening fire on police officers.
27:36But of course, we'll get more information as it comes to hand.
27:40Well, you know, Mark, I know that that's a development story, and, you know, I want to be very circumspect in terms of my, what should I say, responsible.
27:46Of course, in terms of my commenting on the matter, but, you know, when you report that the police is reverting to a deadly force, it's a perfect example to demonstrate, based on what is reported,
27:59that when we are speaking about policing and we are speaking about crime and criminality, it is clear of the heightened risk that is associated when law enforcement embarks on preventing crime or detecting crime and other interactions of the law.
28:14So, you know, when we're looking at things sometimes, you know, I want us to factor that in, in terms of when we are called upon, when we are, the duty that we have to detect crime and other infraction of the law,
28:26it's not a duty that is conducted, and I say, quote, unquote, in a dolly house.
28:29Yeah.
28:30This is a very high-risk situation.
28:33This is a situation sometimes, based on the intelligence you're receiving, you're actually starting to contemplate, you are steering with the chances of death, in terms of looking to uphold the rule of law.
28:43So, again, a developing story, and we'll see what comes out of that, but, you know, like in everything else, we are governed by the rule of law,
28:53and the rule of law must be applied at all times, including if there's a need to use deadly force in a given circumstance.
28:59The rule of law gives the power to the police and even citizens, when their life is in immediate danger, to respond appropriately or proportionately to the force that is being met.
29:08So, again, the rule of law is existing in every square that we, you know, traverse.
29:13Now, earlier we spoke about homicide in the Gasparilla area.
29:18Yes.
29:19And that person was identified as 42-year-old Everton Andrews, apparently a man with mental health disability.
29:31Mr. Andrews here.
29:32Shot and killed on his mattress while he slept.
29:35And, of course, express journalist Suzanne Mohamed spoke with his sister yesterday.
29:40Let's take a look.
29:43My name is Casey Andrews.
29:46And incidentally took with Everton Andrews.
29:51Last night I was sleeping around about 10 o'clock.
29:55I heard a two loud noise, pox pox, pox.
30:01And I asked my children, what is that noise?
30:04But I told them, do not go outside.
30:07Because it sounded like a gunshot.
30:11But I was so afraid we didn't even went outside or anything to go and see what is this made the case.
30:15Because it sounded so very close to where I stayed downstairs.
30:20His, I remember my brother-in-law, Anthony Thompson, Thomas, came and he saw Everton lying on, lying on his, inside there, his mattress inside there.
30:34Lying on his side there.
30:36Saw him with two gunshot to his head.
30:39That's when they called the police and we police them, called me around six when they came up and stuff.
30:47And they do what I could do there.
30:53To put the tears on what we can investigate.
31:00I don't know where they're going.
31:05But, whatever, Everton is, you know.
31:09Because, he made everybody.
31:12And then, he was going to the police, he was, so I already don't know who, who could do it, who could do that, to him.
31:22Mental disability.
31:24He said, we're going to Ward 1, Sir San Fernando's, and then he might work the same dance, going to how his condition is.
31:32So, the relative of Mr. Andrews speaking there to the media, Suzanne Mohammed, express journalist, really sad, you know, lying in your bed.
31:46And, we could see from the video, there were actually two windows there, some missing louvers, where possibly the person could have just put their hand through and shot Mr. Andrews as he lay in bed.
31:57Well, condolences to the family, Mark.
31:59And, Mark, this brings me to a repeat, you know, a matter that I've repeated before.
32:04And, the victimology of an individual is important to look at.
32:10So, why we may have expressed condolences to this family and other families who have lost their loved ones.
32:15It's important for us to do a victimology, to have an understanding of exactly who is this individual.
32:20And, you know, even persons who are listening, let us start doing some introspection and examining ourselves.
32:29And, if we do that, you might recognize it as a need to desist from sometimes some of the things that we may be engaging in.
32:36And, it's unfortunate that what has been reported at this individual seems to be suffering from some illness.
32:42And, again, it's important for us to recognize that when we are speaking about crime and criminality, a police is not exempted, an individual in whatever circumstances is not exempted, whether it be an adult, whether it be a child, as the case may be, because we have seen young people also met their demise of crime and criminality.
33:00So, Trinidad and Tobago, as I speak to you here this afternoon, you know, let us continue to appreciate that the level of crime and criminality that we have seen in Trinidad and Tobago.
33:10Let us have persons who are moving around us, who might be close to us, who might be in our communities, or who may be coming to our communities, bent on inflicting grievous bodily harm, if not death, who may be bent on coming to take our properties that we have worked hard for.
33:26And, it's important for us to find it within ourselves, to be able to solidly hold hands with law enforcement.
33:33And, you know, as I always said, Mark, and this is where I became passionate, that we have three options.
33:39Three options.
33:41If we have the opportunity to fix or treat with evil, we can fix it, let us fix it with our hands.
33:47If we cannot fix it with our hands, let us speak up on it.
33:51And, if we cannot speak up on it, let us hate it in our heart that we will turn away from it.
33:54And, if you look at those three things that I have spoken about, you will be exercising what?
33:59Using your hands to write and expressing yourself through the media to be able to identify wrongdoing or to attract public authorities to deal with issues.
34:08So, those who are in Trinidad and Tobago in your communities and your household, do not condone acts of crime and criminality.
34:15We need to stand firm and let us stand up against it.
34:18Because, if you don't, it's going to continue to plague your community.
34:22It's going to continue to make you uncomfortable.
34:23And, we have seen that all our constitutional rights are being affected and impacted with crime and criminality.
34:31And, we are in the vacation period.
34:33We have seen, a couple of months ago, where even our educational institutions are impacted with crime and criminality.
34:40If not within the outskirts, sometimes directly within the school compound.
34:44We've seen our health sector being impacted.
34:46So, the citizens, this is our country.
34:50The police service belongs to you.
34:52You know, task them.
34:53And, how do you task the police, Mark?
34:56How do you task the police?
34:57By providing the information and the intelligence to task the police to be able to deal with the situation.
35:03So, my citizens, my brothers and sisters, let us continue to persevere.
35:08And, be persistent in our efforts to deal with crime and criminality.
35:12I could not say it better myself, Sergeant.
35:14And, I think we have our first caller on the line.
35:17Caller, good evening.
35:19Good evening.
35:20Good evening, sir.
35:21Go ahead.
35:22We are live and be on the tape.
35:24Yeah, I'm inside that.
35:25This is, this is, I'm inside that, Ali.
35:28Good evening to you, sir.
35:34Yes, caller, go ahead.
35:35Yes.
35:39You need to lower the volume on your television.
35:44Before you speak with us, so that we can clearly hear you.
35:49If you don't do that, caller, we wouldn't be able to hear you, all right?
35:52Let's, let's try that again.
35:53Caller, good evening.
35:55Yes, caller.
36:00Go ahead.
36:01All right, caller, unfortunately, we are not, we are not able to understand clearly what
36:17you're trying to say.
36:18And, we're going to take a short break and we'll be back.
36:20Stay with us.
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39:05Welcome back to Beyond the Tape, I'm your host Marcus and I'm joined today by acting
39:33Sergeant Zaheer Ali of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service and Attorney at Law and guess
39:38what, your favourite segment, Voice of the People in Shagornos, let's go.
40:03So we present in a state of emergency, do you feel safer?
40:15At the moment, yeah. The reason why I tell her that is that the presence of the police on
40:22the outside, at any or given time, is most exciting. The reason why is, the elements,
40:30we can't stop it but we can try to control it. It's safer for the citizens and business
40:38owners too. As you can see, a lot of businesses are getting targeted right now. When you look
40:43at it, plenty of home invasions, depends on the area.
40:47Do you see a reduction in crime since the state of emergency?
40:51At least seeing, I mean they have to see a reduction but you're seeing, you're seeing
40:58a little, I mean they say you are negative and you are positive. But I feel it. I'm not
41:04against it. You know what I mean?
41:06And you think we need a curfew during the state of emergency? Or no?
41:09No, I don't think we need a curfew. What?
41:13With the police presence at any given time, it's most important.
41:17What are your thoughts on this time, your ground legislation?
41:21Actually, I really didn't take a look at it to really see more about it. But for me as a citizen,
41:29I have no problem with stand my ground. I can defend myself.
41:34Alright. Would you support a proposal to have persons who are held with illegal firearms
41:41given no bail for a hundred and eighty days?
41:44Yeah. And why?
41:47Because a firearm is a very dangerous thing. I see a person with an illegal firearm,
41:53I could lose my life, I could lose my family if I'm looking at me, I drive in a nice little car.
41:58They might know how much I sacrificed to buy a car. I might not have food one day on my table,
42:03but I sacrifice it. And I might like it more than me. Waiters to reach in my door to take it out.
42:11So I have to defend myself.
42:13Yeah. Have you ever been a victim of a scam?
42:16No.
42:17Right. And what advice do you have for people that get caught up in these scams?
42:22Quick money, invest $5, they get $100 tomorrow.
42:26That is always a catch. You see social media, when you're living on social media,
42:31they quick to pop up and say, $5. But the thing is, when you do invest $5,
42:37I have $20, fee to pay down the road.
42:41Now I have a Samsung. I get caught through that. I went on Apple phone.
42:46But I had time for that. I bypassed that. I deleted that one time.
42:53Good advice.
42:55Voice of the people, Sergeant Ali, and they asked me for you, but I say like, you was too busy to come down the road.
43:06Well, Mark, if I comment on this video, you know, it's so, I should say, it's very interesting to see that over the last week,
43:13last week we spoke about, I think we got a call from Mayaro, I think it was.
43:18Guaya Guayari.
43:19Right.
43:20And we were invited to that area, and during this week, several persons reached out, relying on,
43:26or I should say, you know, in law, in public law, there's something called a legitimate expectation.
43:30It appears that the persons in Mayaro and Guaya Guayari, they have a legitimate expectation to see yourself,
43:36and probably the family will be on the tape.
43:38And, you know, persons reached out to me during this week, and, you know, I was like, you know,
43:42when you think that you are treating with an issue, you know, persons out there are listening,
43:48and they are very receptive, and they are anticipating, you know, actions in terms of when we speak.
43:53And, you know, those persons in Mayaro and Guaya Guayari, perhaps, you know, we'll make it our business.
43:59But, again, to this person in the Shaguanas area, Mark, giving a very balanced position,
44:05in terms of the question that you have placed to him.
44:08You have dealt with very significant things.
44:09You have, you know, pointed a question on the standing ground.
44:12You have pointed an issue in terms of the 180 days denial of bail, in particular circumstances.
44:18And you also spoke about the scamming issue.
44:21Yeah.
44:22You know, very significant issues, and I know that those are very relevant issues,
44:25and even the individual have also expressed a concern for home invasion.
44:30Mark, this is an area that continues to, you know, trouble the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago.
44:35And, you know, I want to speak home invasion and the response of the government of Trinidad and Tobago.
44:40I have not commented on it publicly in the way that I would like to as yet, but because, you know, looking at voice of the people.
44:46You know, one thing I really am inspired with is that the government of Trinidad and Tobago have identified that we need to use the rule of law.
44:55We need to use the strength of the rule of law.
44:57We need to use the parliament to be able to give some protection to the citizens.
45:01But what has stood out to me, Mark, you see, affording the opportunity for the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago to participate in the lawmaking process, that is inspiring for me.
45:12And on the last occasion I spoke about it resembles a referendum where you are taking a very sensitive and unique piece of legislation into the citizenry to get their perspective and have them participate actively.
45:26What you normally have is 41 member of parliament will come and speak on their constituency as to what they think may be beneficial.
45:34What you are getting is giving a direct opportunity for every single citizen in every single constituency to comment on this unique legislation.
45:42So I think it's an excellent move in terms of the involvement of the of the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago.
45:47And I want to ask politely to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago to be very responsible, be very mature as we digest this piece of legislation to ensure that we give a meaningful input so that the decision makers can be well informed when they have to make a decision.
46:05But again, just to match the home invasion with the response of the government in relation to where the law is concerned, and I'll close by indicating those who are bent, Mark, on home invasion.
46:17I personally would like to see a greater effort to be able to deal with these organized syndicates that are placing law-abiding citizens in harm and also affecting the enjoyment of their property.
46:30And whatever I can do legally or otherwise to be able to lend that support, I think that we need to deal with it.
46:36So, yes, you may have the law to protect yourself with Stanyagrong, but if we can prevent it by detecting those individuals, prosecuting those individuals, convicting those individuals, I think that we would be in the best position.
46:49Yes, well said.
46:50Well, all right, I just also want to thank my cameraman, Brandon Benma, who's always on the go with me in these areas.
46:56And we expect that the next place we're going to be is San Fernando.
46:59So San Fernando, look out for us.
47:01We're going to be coming there pretty soon.
47:03All right, we're going to take a short break, and we'll be back.
47:05Stay with us.
47:06Good day, Trenton Tobago.
47:08And I'm here to invite you all to come on down to Queen's Park Savannah on Saturday, August the 9th.
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50:49Welcome back to be on the TV
50:52I'm your host Mark Mossad
50:53It's legally speaking Wednesdays with me
51:20Of course, it's acting Sergeant Zaheer Ali
51:22With the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service
51:25Some quick housekeeping matters
51:27Of course
51:27There's a Trinidad and Tobago town meeting
51:30Happening tomorrow
51:32At the Central Division town meeting
51:35August 7th at 6pm
51:38Sorry
51:38At the Coover North Gardens Roystonia Community Centre
51:42So please go out there
51:43And at the same time
51:44In the Southern Division of St. Margaret's Police Station
51:48There's also a town meeting
51:50At 6pm
51:51At the Macaulay Community Centre
51:53Macaulay
51:54So of course
51:54Go out there
51:55Police will be wanting to hear the concerns
51:58Of these various residents
52:01Living in these communities
52:02So we encourage you to go out there tomorrow
52:04Both starting at 6pm
52:07Alright
52:08So we have a caller on the line
52:09Just for you sir
52:10Caller, good evening
52:12Good evening
52:13Good evening Mr. Mark Bassant
52:15And Sergeant Ali
52:16Good evening to you sir
52:17I want to agree
52:20With Sergeant Ali
52:22With respect to
52:24Bigging up the government
52:27On their approach
52:29To crime and criminality
52:31By introducing
52:33And communicating
52:34New legislation
52:36But I have
52:38A board
52:39To
52:41With the
52:43TTPS
52:44WA
52:46The Trinidad and Tobago
52:47Police Service
52:48Wealthy Association
52:49They made a communication
52:52About a week ago
52:54Where
52:55They
52:56Said
52:57To the wider public
52:58Because it was publicized
53:00That
53:01There was no
53:02Consultation
53:04With
53:05The organization
53:07Who represents
53:09The premier law
53:10For the
53:12In Trinidad and Tobago
53:13And I find that
53:15Is insulting
53:16To the government
53:17Because
53:18The newly minted
53:20Commission of Police
53:21Has done
53:22And has already
53:23Given a direction
53:24As to where
53:25The police service
53:26Will be going
53:27He said
53:28As soon as
53:30They came into office
53:31The government
53:32Provide
53:35Policy
53:35And the
53:36TTPS
53:37Implement
53:38Those policies
53:39So that is
53:40An indication
53:41Where his charges
53:42Must go
53:43And they
53:43Must understand
53:45Where he wants
53:46To go
53:46For the
53:47Second division
53:48To now
53:49Come and say
53:49They
53:50Were not
53:51Consulted
53:52That to me
53:53As I said
53:54Is insulting
53:55They could have
53:56Gone
53:56To the numerous
53:58Consultation areas
54:00Numerous
54:01Right to the
54:02Country
54:02And make
54:04Their
54:05Representation
54:06Because we
54:07Have to
54:08Admit
54:09The police
54:10Services
54:11Failing us
54:12In a large
54:12Way
54:13And this
54:14Legislation
54:15This is
54:16What I
54:17Think
54:17This is
54:18To help
54:18The police
54:20Manage
54:21Crime
54:21And criminal
54:22Action
54:22Because let's
54:24Face it
54:24Who are
54:26The people
54:26Who cry out
54:27For the police
54:28And the police
54:30Don't
54:30Respond
54:32In a timely
54:33Manner
54:33It's people
54:34Who have
54:35Something
54:36That the
54:36Criminal
54:36Wants
54:37And most
54:37Of the time
54:38The police
54:39Don't
54:39Respond
54:40So give
54:41These people
54:42An opportunity
54:43To defend
54:43Them
54:44Will
54:45Create an
54:45Opportunity
54:46That the
54:46Police
54:47Can focus
54:48Elsewhere
54:48I mean
54:49They say
54:50That is
54:50Simple
54:50Language
54:51I'm going
54:52Have a nice
54:52Use
54:52Well thanks
54:54So much
54:54For your
54:55Contribution
54:55Sergeant
54:57Ali
54:57Thank you
54:58Very much
54:58Caller
54:58You know
54:59As usual
55:00A very
55:00Strong
55:00Submission
55:00Very critical
55:01And you
55:02Know
55:02Mark
55:02I always
55:02Respect
55:03The opinions
55:03And perspective
55:04Of members
55:05Of the public
55:05And you
55:07Know
55:07When we
55:08Are speaking
55:09About law
55:09Making
55:09This is
55:10Just
55:10For me
55:11Speaking
55:11If you
55:13Have an
55:13Input
55:14You know
55:15There are
55:15Many
55:16Different
55:16Avenues
55:16That you
55:17Can
55:17Utilize
55:17To be
55:18Able
55:18To make
55:18Your
55:18Input
55:19And you
55:20Know
55:20I think
55:21That we
55:21Should be
55:21Excited
55:22You know
55:23To give
55:24Our input
55:24And you
55:24Know
55:24While the
55:25Law
55:25Is still
55:26In its
55:26Embriarch
55:27Stage
55:27Or it's
55:28Still in
55:28A stage
55:29Of
55:29Development
55:29And refining
55:31And so
55:31For
55:32You know
55:32It's not
55:33Really
55:33It's not
55:34Law
55:34It hasn't
55:35Passed
55:35It hasn't
55:36Been
55:36Approved
55:37By parliament
55:37Or proclaimed
55:39By the
55:39President
55:39So it's
55:40Still in
55:40The discussion
55:41Stage
55:41So if
55:41You have
55:42Seen
55:42Something
55:42That may
55:43Be
55:43Important
55:43In that
55:44Legislation
55:44That could
55:45Be for
55:45The public's
55:46Interest
55:46Do not
55:47Hold it
55:47Share it
55:48And there
55:48Are different
55:49Mediums
55:49To share
55:49It
55:49You know
55:50You can
55:50Go through
55:51Your formal
55:51Protocol
55:51Or if
55:52You have
55:52An opportunity
55:53To speak
55:53Even with
55:53Your good
55:54Self
55:54Mark
55:54You know
55:55You all
55:55Can
55:55Highlight
55:55The issues
55:56You know
55:56I am
55:56Very
55:56Excited
55:57And I'm
55:57Very
55:57Patient
55:58But I
55:59Myself
55:59Is
55:59Contemplating
56:01Making
56:01Some
56:02Comments
56:02On
56:02The
56:02Legislation
56:03That will
56:03Get
56:03Towards
56:03Progressing
56:05The
56:05Legislation
56:05In a
56:06Positive
56:06Step
56:07You know
56:07That I'm
56:09Seeing
56:09Something
56:09That you
56:09Know
56:10We can
56:10Speak
56:10About
56:10But again
56:11Caller
56:11Thank you
56:12For
56:12Engaging
56:13Us
56:13For
56:14Entering
56:14The
56:14Discussion
56:14Mark
56:15I know
56:15That we
56:15Are
56:16Running
56:16Close
56:16Now
56:16To
56:17The
56:18End
56:18Of
56:18Time
56:18You know
56:19I just
56:19Want to
56:20Close
56:20This
56:20Afternoon
56:20By
56:20Indicating
56:22To
56:22The
56:22Citizens
56:23Of
56:23Trinidad
56:23And
56:23Tobago
56:23That
56:24We
56:25Continue
56:25To
56:26Exists
56:27Under
56:27State
56:27Of
56:27Emergency
56:28And
56:29Let
56:29Us
56:29Not
56:29Forget
56:30What
56:30The
56:31State
56:31Of
56:32Emergency
56:32Was
56:32Declared
56:33Upon
56:33The
56:34Intelligence
56:35That
56:35Came
56:35That
56:35There
56:35Is
56:35A
56:36Dangerous
56:36Criminal
56:36Syndicate
56:37Quote
56:39Unquote
56:39Alleged
56:39Criminal
56:40Gangs
56:40That
56:40Have
56:41Come
56:41Together
56:41To
56:42Be
56:42Able
56:42To
56:42Impact
56:43Public
56:43Safety
56:44And
56:44Security
56:44And
56:44May
56:44I
56:44Ask
56:45Each
56:45And
56:45Every
56:45One
56:45Of
56:46You
56:46And
56:46Us
56:46When
56:47We
56:47Speak
56:48About
56:48Public
56:48Safety
56:48And
56:49Security
56:49Who
56:49Are
56:49We
56:49Speaking
56:49About
56:50We
56:50Are
56:51Speaking
56:51About
56:51Every
56:51Single
56:52Citizen
56:52Whether
56:53You
56:53In
56:53Your
56:53Home
56:54Whether
56:54You
56:55On
56:55The
56:55Roadway
56:55Whether
56:56You
56:56In
56:56Your
56:56Workplace
56:56Whether
56:57You
56:57In
56:57A
56:57Recreation
56:58Ground
56:58Whether
56:58You
56:58In
56:59A
56:59Religious
56:59Area
56:59Whether
57:00You
57:00On
57:00The
57:00Beach
57:01Whether
57:01You
57:01Are
57:01To
57:01Travel
57:02From
57:02Trinidad
57:02To
57:02Tobago
57:03Whether
57:03You
57:19Of
57:20The
57:20Law
57:20That
57:20Exists
57:21So
57:21Mark
57:21I
57:21Want
57:22To
57:22Thank
57:22You
57:22As
57:22Always
57:22So
57:23Sergeant
57:23I
57:23Also
57:24Want
57:24To
57:24Thank
57:24You
57:25For
57:25Taking
57:25The
57:25Time
57:25To
57:26Come
57:26On
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