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00:02:42 Good afternoon Trinidad and Tobago and welcome to Beyond the Tape.
00:02:45 It is Friday the 23rd of February and we welcome you.
00:02:49 And just a quick reminder or just to let you all know what will be taking place from next week.
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00:03:01 Along with a discussion of home invasions that will be discussed by some of the officers to give us more information.
00:03:08 And how we could protect ourselves especially from the criminal element.
00:03:13 At this time no stranger he's back with us acting ASP Steve McKenzie who is with us this afternoon.
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00:03:22 Good afternoon Trinidad and Tobago.
00:03:24 Good afternoon viewers of TV6 and Beyond the Tape.
00:03:27 Once again it's my pleasure to be here.
00:03:29 Yes, I know it is Friday so the weekend is upon us.
00:03:32 Oh thank God it's Friday.
00:03:33 So many things will be happening but before we dive into the weekend of course and allowing the people the opportunity to receive the information.
00:03:42 To protect themselves during the weekend and every day not just for the weekend but moving forward.
00:03:47 Let's touch a little bit more on the detection and evidence when it comes to the TTPS.
00:03:53 So I think worldwide law enforcement is judged when we speak about detection rate primarily as it relates to homicide detection.
00:04:02 Now there are a number of crimes that one can commit and of course there are different categories of crime.
00:04:10 Murder being probably as we refer to them as a number one.
00:04:13 It's the number one crime in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:04:16 For the year thus far I can tell you that we have 73 murders thus far for the year.
00:04:25 Now it's not ideal but it's better than 2023.
00:04:31 In 2023 at this present time we would have had 93 murders.
00:04:35 Also for the month of February thus far we would have had a I don't have that figure with me sorry.
00:04:43 So as it relates to our detection rate with crime with murder sorry.
00:04:49 For the year thus far we have solved 16 of those homicides and we have 17 persons who are arrested for homicides.
00:04:57 Of that 16 homicides solved 8 is from previous years.
00:05:02 So again we wish to thank the men and women of the Homicide Bureau who continue to give a lot of their time a lot of their efforts and sacrifices.
00:05:13 Sacrificing their family time their lives because I can tell you as a former homicide investigator myself.
00:05:21 Your first 72 hours is critical in relation to solving of a homicide.
00:05:30 It means that as an investigator or as part of an investigative team involving conducting investigations in relation to a singular homicide.
00:05:42 A lot of effort has to be done within that first couple hours that first couple days.
00:05:48 While the information is fresh and persons are willing to cooperate.
00:05:53 And of course in many instances some of the evidence is also fragile or can be lost.
00:06:00 And an example of that is some of our technological evidence camera footage as an example.
00:06:09 So the team of investigators has to continue to hit the ground around the clock for that first period.
00:06:17 So let me just walk you through it if you don't mind.
00:06:20 So when a homicide occurs as law enforcement one of the first things we need to do is preserve that crime scene.
00:06:28 So the first responders those police officers who get to that area first.
00:06:33 They have a responsibility in ensuring that evidence on the crime scene is preserved.
00:06:38 They also have a responsibility to ensure that persons who are a witness to that particular crime.
00:06:43 At least the basic information in relation to who you are is also recorded.
00:06:48 So that when the investigators actually arrive they can continue those investigations.
00:06:53 There are some pieces of evidence that are very very important to capture as early as we can.
00:07:00 So there may be the need for officers then and then to take or record statements.
00:07:05 There's something referred to as a dying declaration.
00:07:08 So that if someone is shot and possibly leave that they may be dying or so.
00:07:12 There's a procedure by which a police officer can capture that information before the person passes.
00:07:18 As to who would have committed the act under the circumstances that of course that has to be captured before his death.
00:07:25 Of course he has to be able to be in a certain mental state as well.
00:07:31 So once that crime scene is secure we have the investigators on board who would canvas the area.
00:07:38 As I said before they would look for any form of evidence that be available.
00:07:44 As simple as anything that is in the area that you consider to be of a material interest in investigation.
00:07:52 Blood, projectiles, deformed, anything, gunpowder residue on someone's hand, a bottle, a cigarette, a piece of clothing, video footage.
00:08:05 Anything that is of any evidential value.
00:08:08 That team of investigators has to be able to capture that evidence and package it accordingly for presentation in court.
00:08:16 To say this especially to the public citizens as well, especially when a crime has taken place and you're witnessing or maybe you're shooting and someone dies.
00:08:25 Many times people will run to the scene because the natural reaction for most is to try to preserve that person's life.
00:08:32 So they will contaminate the scene obviously, you will have prints of the persons and stuff may fall from that person or persons or they may kick away evidence that was once there.
00:08:43 Before we go further I want to touch on a situation that really happened literally some hours ago, yesterday 24 hours ago with an 11 year old.
00:08:56 This is disturbing because it seems like the shootings started back.
00:09:03 It started back in a way that is taking the lives of our young people.
00:09:07 Now 11 year old school boy was killed and his father injured following a drive by shooting in East Port of Spain yesterday.
00:09:15 And of course you can hear the gunshots raining out.
00:09:24 Sounds like someone is bawling in the background as well.
00:09:27 Persons, no regard for life.
00:09:31 And this happened around 4.30pm and the target of the shooting according to the police was Akel Fairbairn, a 39 year old and his son Ezekiel, which is not the target.
00:09:45 He was with his dad at the time, Ezekiel Huggins, 11 and his 15 year old sister.
00:09:51 They were being driven by their father in his car through Laventale Road, East Dry River and unknown to him, two other vehicles were following his car.
00:10:02 Police also stated that Fairbairn slowed his car near to the shop and occupants of one of the vehicles opened fire on his vehicle and both cars sped off.
00:10:14 Of course you can see the scene here where police are now involved and the fast action of the TTPS, they were able to apprehend two individuals who were driving one of the vehicles, a Corolla.
00:10:29 And they found also a 9mm pistol and 1kg of marijuana in that said vehicle.
00:10:38 But Ezekiel died after police tried to rush him to the hospital and this is a situation where it is clear the shootings started back.
00:10:55 Yes, I want to personally wish or express my condolences to the deceased, in particular the 11 year old.
00:11:06 That is hard to imagine that an 11 year old would have died in such a circumstance.
00:11:11 Earlier today the Commissioner of Police would have had a media release also expressing her condolences and the organization's condolences.
00:11:20 Of course this matter is under police investigation so there would be very little that I would want to say so as not to prejudice the investigation.
00:11:30 I can tell you that there are two persons who are in police custody at this time as a result of good policing from members of the Port of Spain Division Task Force as well as the Port of Spain Division Gang Intelligence Unit.
00:11:44 Swift work led to the apprehension of these two suspects and of course once the proper investigations are done and the facts are brought before the Director of Public Prosecution probably,
00:11:59 then we can determine or he can determine whether or not these persons should go before court to answer any possible charges that may arise should even these persons be the actual suspects.
00:12:11 Now ASP with regards to the shootings that are taking place now and the drive-by shootings that we are witnessing and the ammunition that they are using,
00:12:23 clearly any gun you have is deadly but this is war-like ammunition that we are seeing here.
00:12:28 The detection when it comes to these drive-by shootings, where is the TTPS at this time with the detection rate with the shootings that are taking place that we are seeing now?
00:12:40 The organization continues to be very proactive as it relates to crime and violent crime and that.
00:12:46 Starting since the days of Mr. McDonnell Jacob, he had a very strong passion for that great patrol initiative and the great patrol more or less is ensuring that the division,
00:12:59 those hotspots, those areas of interest are broken down into areas of patrol so that we'll have a police presence in a particular grid and of course that map will be widened over our expanse piece of land.
00:13:17 That initiative continues and of course because of that initiative we have a greater responsiveness to crime so that the idea is to have that omnipresence throughout the length and breadth of the organization.
00:13:32 I mean it's impossible to have a police officer everywhere in Trinidad and Tobago but as far as possible we need to appear as if we are everywhere in Trinidad and Tobago by beauty of our presence,
00:13:44 by beauty of our patrolling, by beauty of us just appearing from nowhere as well as sometimes we need to have those static patrols that remain at one particular point.
00:13:58 In relation to the issue at hand as it relates to firearms and the ammunition of choice, we've recognized that over the years the criminal elements,
00:14:10 the ammunition of choice is the 9mm ammunition which serves for pistols which are small hand-held firearms and also it can be used in some semi-automatic weapons.
00:14:23 The difference is one can shoot single shots one after the other and each time you have to pull the trigger whereas the semi-automatic you can squeeze the trigger and rungs discharge one after the other very rapidly,
00:14:38 sometimes as much as 30 rounds in a very very short space of time as little as a second.
00:14:44 Yes, let me ask you this because it seems like yes it's when the opportunity comes around that these criminals themselves who are involved in gangs and they see maybe their rival gang member,
00:15:01 they will take the opportunity but I hate to use the word hotspot but that is what is labeled to areas that may have a lot of gang activity or activities taking place.
00:15:13 What could the TTPS do knowing because I'm sure you will have the intelligence that is showing that these areas are known as gang areas
00:15:25 and some of these areas they are clearly marking and targeting persons they consider their enemies.
00:15:33 Yes.
00:15:34 So wouldn't it make sense to at least have officers stationed in some of these areas that we know or I shouldn't say we know but the TTPS may have information on there's high gang activity taking place in these areas
00:15:51 and there are known gang shootings in these areas than to then say okay we can't be everywhere but the intelligence is showing and as you said the data is showing and all the detection rates are showing that in these set areas these activities are what's taking place.
00:16:10 Yes.
00:16:11 So that strategy you just spoke about is actually an operational reality in the organization.
00:16:17 The intelligence task force led by our very own Mr. Alexander actually they are responsible for that particular type of strategy in the Port of Spain district in particular.
00:16:29 It's called saturation so we saturate the environment with police and of course the logic behind is if we have a high visibility of police in that high crime area in that targeted hotspot area
00:16:44 then the opportunity for crime is reduced. Remember we talk about crime and opportunities.
00:16:48 Yes.
00:16:49 So the intention is to reduce the opportunity for criminal elements or warring elements or warring factions to reprise once against the other or commit acts of violence one against the other.
00:17:03 Of course it has to be intelligence led as well. So even while we have police officers on the ground whether it be on foot or mobile we also have that active policing initiative that allows the officers to gather the necessary intelligence so that we always continue to reinvent ourselves.
00:17:23 We always continue to be very strategic in terms of what we do because if we don't do that the criminal element will always have that one up on us and of course we'll have all the presence but no strategy in place and of course they'll just walk rings around us.
00:17:37 What do you say with, I don't know if you ever heard this conversation or it is thrown in your direction where there are officers who are part of the TTPS, they are gang members, they are involved and they run in a block.
00:17:53 Do you ever hear that conversation because I get it a lot where policing is true when officers are coming and trying to get the information to solve crime and they say but all they are involved in this, all they are running the block is all they are in charge, you are the real gang members.
00:18:09 What do you say to that because this is really a reality of a conversation that is circulating on the ground and persons are saying that I can tell you but they can't really say a name but they're saying I can say that there's police officers who run in blocks.
00:18:25 I've heard it myself as a police officer over the years, I've never actually had evidence that would support the allegation so I can't speak to it directly.
00:18:35 Even as a matter of fact, Hollywood kind of portrays that as part of some policing disciplines or some of the things that corrupt police officers would do and practice.
00:18:48 So to say that Trinidad is totally isolated and that would not happen here would be probably something that may not be true but as I said before I do not have any personal information nor have I ever had any personal information that could put me in a position to say with a level of certainty that I know Officer John, Officer Harry, Officer Dick as the case may be was someone who had a block or run in a block or that kind of stuff.
00:19:14 It's something that the organization continues to frown upon once we recognize that police officers engaged in any form of indiscipline or any form of corrupt practices or practice that is not in keeping with the goals and ideologies of the organization.
00:19:31 It's something again we very often when we find officers are foul or below we set the standard by making examples and of course showing that we are intent on ensuring that the organization do exactly what we're supposed to do in terms of maintain a level of integrity, maintain a level of professionalism that is demanded of us as law enforcement.
00:19:55 And when we find officers in breach of law we charge them, we arrest them and we put them before a court to answer the allegations that are levied against them and let the court decide as the case may be whether or not the allegation has any merit to it.
00:20:13 And there's also a policy in the organization that if an officer is charged with a criminal charge he would be suspended. So his powers as a police officer, his operations as a police officer, it is suspended until the determination of the matter.
00:20:29 So if the person is not guilty of the matter this officer could then return to his or her duties? Yes. I mean yes it's proven before the court that they're not guilty.
00:20:41 Yes, because anyone that goes before the court is innocent until proven guilty. So the presumption is that the person is innocent. It's our responsibility as law enforcement even in the case of a murder to present the evidence that we have.
00:20:57 So we talk about just now preserving the crime scene and preserving evidence. We have to be able to transfer that evidence that is there on that crime scene into a package that can be presented before a competent court of jurisdiction.
00:21:14 And of course there are ways in which you have to be able to admit those pieces of evidence before the court and of course there are steps in which you have to preserve the integrity of the evidence as well.
00:21:26 Because if you do not it doesn't mean that the person before the court is not the actual shooter or wasn't the person who actually committed the crime.
00:21:38 But we have to be able to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that that person did in fact commit the crime.
00:21:45 And if of course the court finds that person not guilty then there's nothing we can do other than accept the court's decision.
00:21:54 And of course because of the fact that you're not guilty then you're entitled to the benefits and everything else that you would have had before the charges were instituted.
00:22:03 Now what would you say to your colleagues who may have encounters with other colleagues and they show some form or actions of corruption.
00:22:13 They are corrupt officers among their batch or their team.
00:22:18 What would be that next step for a let's say a very young officer who's just entering into the service.
00:22:27 He's very green and you know sometimes there is an order that is unspoken sometimes.
00:22:34 And I am a civilian so I may not know what order that may be.
00:22:38 I am just putting that scenario out there.
00:22:42 But if there are signs that the person is not upholding the code and ethics of the TTPS.
00:22:48 What could that officer then do without being tarnished internally and labeled as we say a rat.
00:22:54 Because he's saying that I am here to do my job and this is what we stand for and what these personal persons are doing.
00:23:00 It is not right.
00:23:02 We have a lot of those police officers in the organization who would stand for the right thing because it is the right thing to do.
00:23:10 Those officers are persons who are very high on integrity and it doesn't matter if we would have been partners for an extensive period of time.
00:23:18 Or I know you beyond the organization and we have a personal relationship.
00:23:24 But by virtue of your actions I have no other choice but to do what I have to do as an officer.
00:23:30 That is ideally what we need as law enforcement.
00:23:35 So if you and I are police officers and we are on patrol in a particular area.
00:23:43 And we see someone acting suspicious and we have to search the person of that individual.
00:23:49 And Mrs. Burns I see you take the person's phone and put it in your, let's not say phone, the person's jewelry and put it in your pocket.
00:23:59 I have a responsibility then and then to caution you.
00:24:03 I have a responsibility then and then to let you know of the offense that you would have committed.
00:24:07 I have a responsibility then, provided of course you did not return the item, to arrest you.
00:24:13 At the moment.
00:24:14 At the moment.
00:24:15 Or report you for the consideration to be given that charges should be preferred against you for an offense that probably you would have committed.
00:24:22 So it goes back to the issue of integrity as law enforcement.
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00:26:53 With me is acting ASP Steve McKenzie and of course we're discussing detection and many other things that have been taking place from the days gone by.
00:27:03 Before we move forward, we just have some information that we want to give to the public.
00:27:09 So we just want to clarify that in relation to the shooting of the 11 year old that he was not in the vehicle nor did he have any relation to the individual we mentioned before.
00:27:22 So we just want to ensure that if there was any misleading information presented we want to correct that.
00:27:27 Yes, thank you for that. Let's take a look at an incident that happened yesterday where we showed a clip of a school bus being damaged.
00:27:36 Now we want you all to take a look at this and where it began.
00:27:40 Now this is what we showed yesterday, but we want to show you where it all started.
00:27:45 So at this time you can see what is taking place with the same vehicle that was damaged and the students who are now coming and damaging the vehicle, the school bus that is there.
00:28:03 And of course we are not showing the identities of these children because they are underage and I am sure investigation will be taking place with this situation that took place yesterday.
00:28:14 That took place yesterday, sorry.
00:28:16 Well, based on the footage that I'm seeing, I can tell you there is a question to be asked as to whether or not criminal offenses would have been committed.
00:28:27 Based on my observation, the offense of malicious damage is one that has to be considered.
00:28:34 And this is a situation where this person now has been placed in an inconvenient situation because these students have damaged the school bus.
00:28:51 School violence is one that we recognize as a nation. We have been challenged with more so within recent times.
00:28:58 I think even when I was in school, we had school violence.
00:29:01 In today's world we have social media.
00:29:05 But it seems like it is not just true in FIS.
00:29:09 We are seeing weapons now being used in schools because you're seeing right now the fights continue in the classrooms and also outside of the classroom.
00:29:18 And it is just getting worse every single day.
00:29:23 So as an organization, we continue to do what we believe we need to do to minimize, again, opportunities for crime and violence.
00:29:33 So the commissioners of present and of past would have ensured that we have the community police section that actually visits schools, does school intervention.
00:29:45 We have, again, from that community police section, we have persons who actually go to different schools and are monitored to ensure that there are no children who are idle or just not going to school as they should.
00:30:02 And of course we see it. But this here, it goes to show where it doesn't matter if it's a female or male.
00:30:10 The young men are being so aggressive to our female.
00:30:15 This is a young lady being attacked by a young man, a young boy who is just saying I need to attack her and he is not letting go.
00:30:26 This is now a situation or situations that we are seeing that is not just you talk about my mother in school and you happen to throw a little blue.
00:30:37 This is what they are seeing on a daily. Why your first reaction is to attack, stab, shoot.
00:30:45 Because there was another incident with a school in Port of Spain off of a vaping device. A young man got stabbed about three times for a vaping device.
00:30:56 And then the students who are around, no one is stopping it. Everyone wants to go viral. Everybody wants to ray and make noise and yeah boy, yeah girl, get him.
00:31:06 But is it a sign of where we are as a society?
00:31:09 Yeah, we are angry people.
00:31:11 We are angry people.
00:31:13 And the adults operate just like this?
00:31:17 This is what we need to curb in relation to violence. It starts in the schools, it starts in the home.
00:31:24 In terms of our parenting, when we need to control murders, it doesn't start necessarily at the end after the person dies.
00:31:34 It starts with our interventions, our parent intervention, our schools. We need to lend support to the initiatives that take children away from a life of crime.
00:31:46 Carried Force, Girl Guides, Cub Scouts, My Lat. And the list goes on. Sporting activities, we drive around to them, we look at football fields and it's just empty.
00:31:58 But that is my point. Is it that the children know, are they really interested in that? Or the parents are showing them another way, do the parents have time?
00:32:07 We have a call. We will touch on this a little bit more. Hello, good evening.
00:32:11 Good evening, Ms. Osmond.
00:32:13 Good evening, Sue.
00:32:14 Good evening, ASP.
00:32:17 Yes, McKenzie.
00:32:18 Good evening Sue.
00:32:19 Good evening Sue.
00:32:20 I want to say something. I have experience from here, from Sydney Data Bowls.
00:32:24 Now, every day we have a list program, actually we hear the same thing over and over. School getting on, gang getting on.
00:32:32 I want to make some outlines. First of all, you see those schools? ASP. I remember when I would go to school, you had more male teachers.
00:32:42 And I won. And those people might not like that.
00:32:46 Secondly, the corporal punishment was in school. And it's discipline from the house. The second discipline you could get is in the school.
00:32:58 Because if anything goes wrong in the school, and you go home and they tell the parents, they beat the new ass too.
00:33:04 But now, the parents will go home, go in the school with a class and gone, where is my child for?
00:33:11 So, discipline, moral standards have gone down. So, the school, what you get in there now is what we saw after 15, I already said about 15 years, we saw it now.
00:33:23 We repeat now. I am not enhancing it. Oh, glad what's happening. But I'm telling you the cause has taken place.
00:33:29 So, it's, I don't believe in causing women, sorry, for men, it's the women, or young boys, it's the women.
00:33:36 All of them get the same thing. They get to be able to say, "them young girls, sometimes on the road, I see them and say, what you doing outside?
00:33:44 Yeah, that's all right, go, mind your own business." So, it's things. That's the one part.
00:33:50 Secondly, the crime in Trinidad, ASP. Since I was a little boy, I was 17, you know, gangs, I know gangs. So, they have gangs.
00:34:00 So, this thing about gangs, now the gangs advance because they use AR and all these types of drugs.
00:34:07 Now, the thing about it, to get this settled, you all as police, you can't be everywhere at the same time.
00:34:14 The only thought to solve this problem, you have to do like the Marcos in the Philippines.
00:34:21 You have to have a young gang, and in the process, you know what will happen. I'm not saying it.
00:34:25 Because you can preach that from tomorrow to next year, those gangs are changing.
00:34:30 And they're getting worse and worse because they're used to shooting at night, and in the evening, now, ASP, they're shooting in the day.
00:34:37 You, yourself, as a police, you have to hold your fear to yourself now.
00:34:40 So, what I'm saying is, Captain, Julianna, in 1994-95, changed the whole of New York with 40 million people.
00:34:49 And he changed the law. The law is for the lawless, unless you have stringent law.
00:34:55 The judiciary, acting fast, and everything, nothing will change. Bless you.
00:35:00 So, this is it. But thanks for the program. But I hear the same program every day and every day.
00:35:05 Gang, gang, gang, gang. Who is gang? Who is gang? We could get rid of any gang.
00:35:09 Thank you so much, Kola. Very strong points from the Kola there.
00:35:13 I think some of what he said, I have to agree with. In relation to corporal punishment, one can argue that with the change in the law, as it relates to who can administer corporal punishment,
00:35:27 I think over time, we saw some changes in behavior in relation to children.
00:35:31 Just for clarity, just in case persons are actually wondering, we can still institute corporal punishment.
00:35:39 The question is, who has the authority to institute corporal punishment?
00:35:43 So, as a parent or guardian, you can institute corporal punishment on your child.
00:35:47 Just, of course, that punishment has to be reasonable.
00:35:52 Yes, not abuse.
00:35:53 That's right. The big difference.
00:35:54 So, if you give a teacher permission to discipline your child in school.
00:36:00 Right. So, the teacher has permission to discipline your child or to punish your child.
00:36:05 Right.
00:36:06 Not corporal punishment.
00:36:08 So, the parent could use corporal punishment.
00:36:10 The parent could use.
00:36:11 To a certain extent.
00:36:12 That's right.
00:36:13 But the teacher cannot.
00:36:14 The teacher cannot.
00:36:15 What if I gave the teacher permission?
00:36:16 The law doesn't permit the teacher to exercise corporal punishment.
00:36:20 The teacher can use some innovative ways to punish the child, for indiscipline or so.
00:36:27 But the teacher cannot execute corporal punishment on the child.
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00:38:53 And we are back, SB Mackenzie.
00:38:55 Let's talk a little bit about the detection rate in some of the areas that may be a bit challenging for the TTPs.
00:39:03 You may have some challenges in some areas where you're trying to solve a lot of criminal activities taking place.
00:39:11 Give me a little bit more if there are any challenges at all.
00:39:14 I mean, I think just about every crime area we have challenges in relation to where we need to be in terms of our detection rate.
00:39:24 The challenges are wide and varying, of course.
00:39:29 We often see on many different programs, as often as we can, we encourage the public to, if you see something, say something.
00:39:38 We have so many hotlines and so many ways and by means for you members of the public to reach out to us as police officers to provide that level of support that is needed in relation to assisting us in detecting crime.
00:39:52 Of course, I said before, they were saying, "He who alleges must prove."
00:39:57 And if we allege that persons are responsible for committing crime, then we must be in a position to prove that those persons are responsible for committing crime.
00:40:11 As it relates to our detection rate, to solve a crime, to solve a crime to be specific means that someone is arrested and charged or the crime has been detected.
00:40:23 Not necessarily arrested and charged in all circumstances, but the crime has been detected.
00:40:28 For the instances where the matter goes before the court, it means, of course, there's a need for support from victims.
00:40:38 Of course.
00:40:40 Because think about a rape, think about a burglary.
00:40:45 A murder.
00:40:46 A murder.
00:40:47 Lastly, a robbery.
00:40:49 Those types of crime, if you as the victim are not supportive of the police in relation to solving the crime, then that's just another crime that we have on record that is unsolved.
00:41:02 So speaking of unsolved, talk to me a little bit about dark figures of crime in Trinidad and Tobago where some of the crimes may not have been reported.
00:41:14 And of course, you want to have your stats and the detection rate and all these things.
00:41:20 Where is the TTPS when it comes to that dark figure that we call the criminal activities or crimes that were committed that was not reported?
00:41:31 Well, the fact that it wasn't reported means that we're in a difficult position to say exactly what was not reported.
00:41:38 We know that in some communities, some persons tend to treat with their own criminal activity and something we try to guard against.
00:41:49 Because if the crimes are not reported, then we have no means of measuring.
00:41:57 Vigilante justice.
00:41:58 Yeah, that's the vigilante justice we're trying to not support, to move away from.
00:42:02 But if the crime is not reported, then we have nothing measurable.
00:42:07 There's nothing that can guide us as a law enforcement to know what type of interventions that are needed, what type of patrols to decrease the...
00:42:16 Yes.
00:42:17 Whatever we need to do to treat with that issue of crime.
00:42:21 As an organization, we often have meetings with our stakeholders in some communities.
00:42:28 We have meetings with town councils and station council meetings.
00:42:35 Anything that would cause or create masses of persons or groups of stakeholders to come together with police to brainstorm on ways we can fix crime within a particular community.
00:42:46 We're receiving that.
00:42:47 Yeah, we would do so.
00:42:48 And that might be an opportunity again to hear from persons.
00:42:54 Concerns.
00:42:55 Sometimes.
00:42:56 Yeah, apart from the concerns, sometimes the areas that affect the community is the most.
00:43:01 Okay.
00:43:02 You see, some people believe as police officers, we know it all.
00:43:07 We have all the answers.
00:43:09 We don't.
00:43:11 We depend on you.
00:43:14 We do the public.
00:43:15 Just as much as you depend on us.
00:43:17 As a matter of fact, as police officers ourselves, we are also members of society.
00:43:22 We're also members of the community.
00:43:24 So today I can be a police officer investigating on a crime, and tonight I can be a victim of crime.
00:43:30 Which we don't want to hear at all.
00:43:32 Which we don't want to hear at all.
00:43:33 So we depend on each other.
00:43:34 Yes.
00:43:35 We have a call.
00:43:36 Hello, good evening.
00:43:37 Hello, good afternoon.
00:43:38 Hi, good evening.
00:43:39 You're live.
00:43:40 Yes, my husband, Corporal.
00:43:43 I just have one comment.
00:43:45 I want to take a little pitch out to the last caller's comments and talk a little bit about morality and cultural behavior as a society.
00:43:56 So I'll just reflect a little bit on that.
00:43:58 You know, when I was a young kid, my mom used to carry us, all the kids, to look at math.
00:44:05 You know, I mean, it was every year, and we enjoyed it a lot as kids.
00:44:10 And now I can't even sit in front of the television with my nephew and sit.
00:44:16 It's deplorable.
00:44:19 I don't know where we're going as a society.
00:44:22 I hear a lot of Facebook posts talking about our carnival.
00:44:27 And my question is really, do we have nudity laws?
00:44:33 I mean, do those things exist anymore?
00:44:37 I mean, it's just a losing essence of our society.
00:44:42 And it really starts there.
00:44:43 What our children see, what our kids see, they emulate.
00:44:48 And it's really, for want of a better word, it's really disgusting to look at.
00:44:56 Even our music, I sense what we have.
00:45:00 I know that there was a society that used to censor what programs, censor music that, you know, we would be able to listen to.
00:45:14 I don't know if there's still censorship laws in place for the organization.
00:45:19 But something is fundamentally going wrong.
00:45:23 And as a society, I'm seeing lots of people saying they're not going to come to our carnival anymore.
00:45:28 We need to do something about it.
00:45:30 We're losing the essence of even making masks and showing us.
00:45:35 All right. Thank you.
00:45:37 Thank you so much, Kola.
00:45:38 I mean, it is a crime show.
00:45:41 But with that being said, I hear what you're saying.
00:45:46 But at the end of the day, we still have the responsibility as adults to make sure that we have control of what we expose our children to.
00:45:53 I am also hearing what you're saying, where, yes, you want to experience masks, but it's supposed to be for everyone.
00:45:59 And sometimes us as the adults take it very far when it comes to exposing ourselves in public and behaving in a certain way.
00:46:10 That's very deplorable at times.
00:46:12 And I'm not going to stand here and make excuses for it.
00:46:16 But it all boils back down to the person's morals and values, as you mentioned before, and what they see as OK and not a big deal.
00:46:26 So you often ask me questions.
00:46:28 Allow me to ask you one.
00:46:31 With our continual erosion of moral and values in society, I think it's worthwhile.
00:46:38 Let's deal with society. What's your opinion as it relates to how impactful that is from your perception of crime in Trinidad and Tobago?
00:46:46 It is in a major way because it is giving the OK to, and I always say we start at home.
00:46:53 That is the first space that we are in that we learn most of the things that we know and that we are exposed to.
00:47:03 And if our homes, it's placed in a place of hostility and anger and aggression.
00:47:11 And to get things done a certain way, you need to commit a crime that it seems to be because the government and society has a problem.
00:47:22 Yes. And they hate it on us that our go to is to take something from someone because I deserve it or because I don't have it.
00:47:31 And I am suffering right now. You need to feel what I'm going through.
00:47:34 And there are homes like that. Just as simple as a sibling who will see something another sibling may get and go in the room and take it without even asking.
00:47:43 Not stealing, but because I want it and I deserve it. Take what is yours. You know, we have a call on the line. Hello. Good evening.
00:47:52 Yes. Good evening. Good evening. Yes. It is very nice to see people from India work on this program.
00:48:01 This is very nice. I want to say something. Yesterday I was trying to get on the program. I was talking about the response.
00:48:15 Now, response. I know that we need some time to release. The police might need to step up and get a response. But response is something you, no matter what you do, you need staff.
00:48:33 And if you need staff, you have to have a response team in Guwahar, Guwahati. And you have something happening in Port of Speed.
00:48:45 You have to have a team closer than that in Guwahati, Osaki, Grandee to reach into Port of Speed. You have to have a team closer from Port of Speed to reach San Fernando, Osaxana, to Port of Speed.
00:49:00 So staffing is important. I think when we try to say that the police is not on time all the time, I think we are a bit, I think we are a bit stretching it a little bit too far.
00:49:14 Because the kind of staff you need for that kind of operation, it is not an easy thing. Because I don't know what you feel when I'm not a police or anything like that.
00:49:24 I don't know what you feel. That is not very important. You have to have a staff stand by. Because you have people, something will happen here now.
00:49:35 And if it happens here now, the next 10, 15 minutes, something happens here, what are you going to do with the staff that you have here to go there?
00:49:42 So this is the thing. So we have to be very lenient with the police. Not that it might need a little more tuning up, but we have to take into consideration that that means plenty, plenty, plenty, plenty staffing.
00:49:58 Thank you.
00:49:59 Thank you. We'll take a break and answer your, or respond to what you were asking us when we come back.
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00:52:20 And we are back of course to respond to the caller. You were speaking about your response time.
00:52:24 And at least as you mentioned earlier as well, having officers at strategic locations is somewhat impossible because they can't be everywhere at the same time.
00:52:36 But the Minister of National Security, the Honorable Hines, stated that in January 2024 that they will have an increase of recruitment for officers for the intake into the TTPS.
00:52:48 Would that really assist in a major way because these are young minds, they're green, they're very fresh.
00:52:53 And it is almost for me throwing them into the sea with the sharks immediately for them to get up to par with everything
00:53:03 and understand that we need more hands on deck.
00:53:07 We definitely do need additional support from our human resource.
00:53:12 And every day we have persons who retire from the organization, persons who resign from the organizations, persons who are suspended, persons who fall sick.
00:53:22 And the list goes on in terms of why we have persons who are actually not active police officers.
00:53:30 So whenever we have a batch of recruits that add to the pool of police officers, it's a welcome.
00:53:40 More so you'll find persons who work in the station districts where those officers tend to find themselves.
00:53:46 But in the worst part, they breed us a relief because let me tell you that that station environment without sufficient human resource is a challenge.
00:53:56 It's difficult.
00:53:57 Yeah, in relation to what the caller was speaking about as well, staffing.
00:54:02 Because of the climate in Trinidad and Tobago, again because of who we are as a society and the violent nature of who we are becoming as a society,
00:54:15 we can't do as some of our foreign counterparts and see one police officer in a police car patrolling and treating with defaulters of the law.
00:54:27 In Trinidad and Tobago, our protocols are a bit different.
00:54:32 We have teams of officers.
00:54:34 You may see two officers, three officers, four officers, depending on the circumstance, depending on the nature of the inquiry or the nature of the duty to perform.
00:54:44 So if you have four officers in one vehicle as opposed to one officer in four vehicles, of course that would impact upon your visibility.
00:54:52 And of course there's another concern.
00:54:54 That's right.
00:54:55 The other concern is the conversation that we hear.
00:55:01 I was trying to find a nice way to say that.
00:55:03 The conversation we hear so often, vehicles.
00:55:07 Because even if we have four officers to put in four vehicles, do we have sufficient vehicles to put four officers in?
00:55:13 So staffing is definitely something that we continue to look at.
00:55:18 And of course as we ease, because we expect that we must get a handle on this crime situation.
00:55:25 But it's not about the police alone.
00:55:28 I'm just changing gears here again.
00:55:31 Fixing crime is not the TTPS alone.
00:55:34 We need all persons to help us.
00:55:36 You know some people hate to hear what you're saying.
00:55:39 I know, I know.
00:55:40 Because they say that's why you all need, but how else would they get information, right?
00:55:44 But it's not only that.
00:55:45 You see, as law enforcement, our responsibility is to detect crime, detect infractions of the law, take persons before the court.
00:55:53 We go beyond that to ensure that we encourage persons to not commit crime, create deterrence, create hard targets.
00:56:02 We do hot spot policing and the list goes on.
00:56:04 We do community intervention.
00:56:06 And the list of things that law enforcement, and I'm not speaking to Triantafigo Police alone,
00:56:13 generally they do in order to ensure that crime and violence is controlled.
00:56:19 But it's not the responsibility of police alone.
00:56:23 It's the responsibility of the state.
00:56:25 It's the responsibility of the non-state.
00:56:27 We need support from the private sector as well as we need support from the public sector.
00:56:32 We need support from all those ministries and divisions and stuff that are charged with certain responsibilities to support us.
00:56:40 As it relates to transforming the culture, transforming the mindset, looking at that target group of the ages between 12 and what, say 29.
00:56:50 Those males that we need to get in the minds of and find a way so that we can have changed behavior.
00:56:58 Recently, Trinidad music is a topic of discussion.
00:57:02 Simple things like how do we as a society, not how do we as the TTPS, how do we as a society find a way.
00:57:14 Now I would like to touch on an incident that happened last week.
00:57:19 This was an incident that took place with a woman who was killed.
00:57:23 My apologies.
00:57:25 This was on yesterday.
00:57:26 This took place yesterday and this was a situation where a woman was killed as a SUV slammed into a bus shed.
00:57:36 Now, as you can see here, many persons got stuck in some serious traffic because of this.
00:57:43 And the latest incident is a 45 year old woman was killed in a road traffic incident in California yesterday while waiting under a shed for a bus.
00:57:55 Primiti Lattu of Railway Road, California, was said to be waiting under a bus shed along the old Southern Main Road in the vicinity of VTEC Credit Union around 1.27 p.m.
00:58:11 when a black Suzuki Vitara plunged into the structure.
00:58:15 Lattu and a woman who was nearby, they were struck.
00:58:19 A minor narrowly avoided the injury as well.
00:58:23 And the 35 year old driver of the SUV stopped, rendered assistance and notified the police.
00:58:30 He told the police he was driving along the western side of the roadway when he lost control and crashed into the bus shed on the eastern side.
00:58:40 Lattu died on the scene.
00:58:42 So condolences to the Lattu family and to the driver as well.
00:58:49 You know, some persons may panic and decide to leave the scene of an incident like this, a tragic incident like this because a life was lost.
00:58:58 But he stayed and explained everything that happened to the police and it just shows that the person valued life as well.
00:59:05 And we're not that desensitized as many people think we may be.
00:59:10 Now, before we go to break, I want to put this out there for you, SP McKenzie.
00:59:15 When it comes to persons who are on social media, basically admitting to doing criminal activity and they're saying I did that.
00:59:26 Where does the TTPS enter that chat?
00:59:30 I want to know after the break. We'll be back.
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01:01:48 And we are back as I mentioned before we are entering the chat with the TTPS with the question I asked before we went to the break which I will repeat.
01:01:56 Where persons will go on social media, the criminals themselves, and they will state openly, yeah I committed that crime.
01:02:04 So for instance, I am on a live with someone else and they say well it's you the other day, you was in the supermarket and I see you hold up the individual and they took their money and they took certain items.
01:02:16 And my response is well yeah, nobody here did.
01:02:20 I, you know, I'm just saying like that is how or where we are at with some of the criminals where they want to be boasting with it and let people know that I did that.
01:02:29 Where does the TTPS come in and deal with persons admitting to criminal activity?
01:02:37 The TTPS is also technology driven as it relates to solving crime. Within the organization we have a unit that deals with social media.
01:02:49 So for me to your surprise we have a team of officers that are designated that treats with issues that would arise on social media.
01:03:01 And of course the function of that team of officers is to convert that information into evidence that would assist an investigator to formulate a charge or cause a person to be charged for an offense.
01:03:19 Once of course we can determine that an offense has been committed and of course we can identify the persons and everything line up as I say, the docks are in a row.
01:03:30 Again simply we also recognize that like once upon a time when persons would have been obstructing officers and inciting other obstructing officers and that kind of stuff and the officers leave the scene.
01:03:45 There was generally no follow up. Today we thank those persons who choose to record the activities of the officers because there is follow up.
01:03:58 And some persons end up before the court for obstruction, incitement and assaults and that kind of stuff.
01:04:05 Because it gave the energy that persons could obstruct officers and nothing will happen to them.
01:04:11 If I feel you doing something that is bothering me and upsetting me I could come and deal with you accordingly.
01:04:18 And many times we probably wouldn't put plenty of those after actions in the public domain but probably something we could probably look at so that we could change that mindset of persons that believe that nothing happens because things actually do.
01:04:33 Okay well you heard it from ASP Mackenzie. Let's head to a video here from social media of course.
01:04:42 So let's take a look at this. A police at location where an attempted arrest has taken place.
01:04:48 As we mentioned before, obstruction.
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01:06:05 Now this was retrieved from social media and we are seeing that officers were attempting to conduct an arrest.
01:06:13 But again, as a civilian, we will never know what is the reason why officers may be coming to arrest someone.
01:06:23 Correct. And of course we have plenty of Bush lawyers who believe that they know. Bush lawyers.
01:06:33 Persons who believe for some reason or the other they are very intimate with the law and sometimes they are actually not.
01:06:39 Who believe that as a male officer, you can ask such a female. And the list goes on in terms of what the do's and don'ts are in terms of policing.
01:06:48 I want to advise members of the public whenever police officers engage in the act of arresting persons, do not do anything that would make the officer's job more difficult.
01:07:06 Your action might amount to an obstruction. Do not encourage persons to obstruct the officers.
01:07:14 There may be times when the officer would caution persons to desist from some of the actions in terms of the incitement, in terms of the obstruction and things like that.
01:07:26 After the caution, then the officers may be entitled to effect arrest with persons who are within their space and obstructing them from the execution of their duty.
01:07:41 Or as I said, causing others. And we've heard and seen so many times someone in the background shouting and yelling.
01:07:49 We just saw that. We saw that there. But my thing is that the way in which he was arrested, was that the right way to arrest someone?
01:08:01 Even though at times they may be resisting or that was the best way to de-escalate the situation, get him in handcuffs and move him out of the space where persons were becoming a bit hostile?
01:08:12 It depends on the situation. So just the bare words of the under arrest would suffice in terms of effecting an arrest.
01:08:21 But of course there may be times when you have to physically hold that person and of course when the circumstance becomes necessary, you may have to put on handcuffs and that kind of stuff.
01:08:34 So if you are known that I am here to arrest you, Whitney, right?
01:08:39 Yeah, I can't deal with myself. It's like oil and water. I'm not working. But I am saying, what are you coming to arrest me for?
01:08:47 Yes.
01:08:48 Because you are known that you are here and I guess you will state the reason why. Am I right or wrong?
01:08:54 Are you stating why you are arresting me or you can just state that I'm here to arrest you?
01:08:58 I would start by identifying myself first. I would identify myself to you. I would tell you of the offence you would have committed.
01:09:05 And after doing that I would tell you that you are under arrest.
01:09:09 Which other people would not hear when it is announced by... I'm just saying because of this situation, they are just seeing some officers showed up, arrest a man and they are wicked and he is sick.
01:09:19 I'm sick, he is sick, that cab read. So we just have to be clear because remember this is what people are seeing, that short snippet that is released on social media.
01:09:29 But we have to also bear in mind that it depends on the situation because if someone is violent and resistant, then the protocol would change so that you would inform the person of some of the offence you would have committed.
01:09:46 Immediately after, you would caution the person because there is a caution that we have to administer to persons who are arrested after.
01:09:55 So it depends on the circumstance.
01:09:57 So what you are saying, if you show up for me and you identify yourself and I'm saying okay, well I'm here because this is stated I have to detain you.
01:10:12 Right.
01:10:13 And my response is for what?
01:10:15 Right. You are entitled to ask for what.
01:10:17 And you will say?
01:10:18 I'll tell you for what.
01:10:20 Right. And then you will proceed to arrest me. But I don't want to be arrested so I start to...
01:10:25 And that's resisting.
01:10:26 Okay.
01:10:27 So apart from the offence of which I came to arrest you, you have now committed another offence by resisting my attempt to arrest you.
01:10:37 So all what he was doing there on the ground was forms of resisting all the officers.
01:10:41 Once you are resisting the arrest, you are resisting. Of course, just as you said, you can be resisting the person who is charging you or an officer has the power to call to his assistance, a member of the public as well, to aid in the arrest.
01:10:59 So if I'm alone and I'm trying to effect an arrest and I call a member of the public to my aid, to help me, and you assault that person or resist that person or obstruct that person, you can also be charged for the offences in relation to that person.
01:11:16 Yeah.
01:11:17 Yeah?
01:11:18 But it seems like some of our civilians are very strong because sometimes we see so many officers trying to detain one individual. But I guess they just don't want to be arrested so they put in all their strength in it.
01:11:27 But at this point, people will feel aware you're being arrested so they will react.
01:11:33 Yeah.
01:11:34 Not the way you expect. But we have to take a break. We'll come back with more after this.
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01:13:57 And we are back. Of course, remember you can give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1992, 1993, 1996, and 1997.
01:14:09 Now, ASP Mackenzie, I want you to take a look at this video that we are about to play here, where a TTPS bus was on the nation's roadway.
01:14:20 And as you can see, there's no major traffic. It's moving, driving like everyone else. Not sure if he or she had somewhere to go.
01:14:30 But this is what happened when the same driver of the TTPS bus came up to some traffic.
01:14:41 Some traffic ahead. Passing the MP flyover here.
01:14:49 He is approaching the traffic and on seeing the traffic, he realizes, maybe I don't want to sit here in this traffic.
01:15:15 Feel your way. Abuse your power.
01:15:19 Now this is a conversation that is ongoing all the time where persons, once they hear police siren, are sure they have nowhere to go.
01:15:28 Nowhere. They're just making us try to squeeze out of this traffic, squeeze into a lane.
01:15:35 And all the time they were driving without the siren. And as they approached the traffic, the siren came on because I need to get out of here.
01:15:43 But let me deal with the video first. I'm a bit confused as to what is the issue.
01:15:48 The issue with the person who is recording is basically saying the driver is abusing his or her power because initially the siren wasn't on.
01:15:57 And as he approached or she approached the traffic, they decided to switch on the siren to get out of the traffic immediately.
01:16:04 Okay, so let me deal with this in different ways. The driver spoke about the driver of the bus possibly using the bus route as an option.
01:16:13 We have units along the Bitame Highway that have buses and often use buses.
01:16:18 The Traffic and Highway Patrol Branch, the Guardian Emergency Branch, the IATF and others that are away or west of the closest exit point, which is the Gambaza intersection to the bus route.
01:16:32 So that by itself is a bit questionable.
01:16:37 I observed that the bus was occupying or driving just over the broken lines between the center lane and the left lane.
01:16:49 That suggests to me that the bus was driving as if he was using his siren intermittently.
01:16:58 So you could do that based on what?
01:17:02 I mean that the driver is using his discussion day and then rather than having his siren on blaring continuously and there is no obstruction.
01:17:10 And as he approaches the obstruction, he puts back on his siren to run continuously.
01:17:17 I see nothing that I would say is against the law.
01:17:22 When the driver approaches the congestion, then he puts on his siren, he maintains the same path and he goes through the traffic to me lawfully.
01:17:32 The question as to whether or not it's an emergency is something that I cannot treat with because I do not know what was the nature of the duty in relation to the officer.
01:17:42 And in relation to what is probably the bigger question, are officers guilty of doing or committing similar acts in the past?
01:17:53 Because many times we will see officers picking up their children at schools with the TTPS vehicle and I don't think that is something that you should do.
01:18:04 So in relation to the officers who are sometimes guilty of using the siren illegally, the organization has taken an approach over the years to treat with that and it's something we have seen minimized tremendously.
01:18:24 Because policing is a job that is very fluid, you can never tell when an officer has reason to switch on his siren and to get from one area to another swiftly.
01:18:42 So when we hear persons judging based on their perception, sometimes we judge wrongfully. Sometimes. And of course there are times when officers are wrong as well.
01:18:55 Alright, at least you're admitting to certain situations. We have a call on the line. Hello, good evening.
01:19:01 Good evening, I'm the KFP.
01:19:05 Good evening.
01:19:06 I have some ideas for you. One, I'm a volunteer. And every time I see school violence going on, it disturbs me.
01:19:18 I would like us to have students who are the two political leaders of this country, to get serious.
01:19:27 If they don't want to be involved, at least instruct their subordinates who are part of the electoral college to put things in place.
01:19:37 Because are we waiting to hear two or three children die because of this violence? That is one issue.
01:19:45 The other is to the AFP. Can you tell the public exactly what is the policy, procedure or protocol for placing handcuffs on someone who is deemed as under arrest?
01:20:01 How would you solve it?
01:20:04 A policy of someone being?
01:20:05 Under arrest.
01:20:06 Under arrest, okay.
01:20:07 Thank you, caller. This year's school violence is one we would have dealt with, I think, before.
01:20:14 He is now calling for the persons in authority, those persons who are charged with the responsibility of creating laws that could aid in relation to curbing violence.
01:20:27 I support your call. And of course, as law enforcement, any amount of support we get as it relates to minimizing crime and the opportunity for crime, we welcome, even if by way of changes in legislation.
01:20:40 In relation to the use of handcuffs as police officers, the protocol is to use handcuffs only when it is necessary.
01:20:48 So, if someone is under arrest and they are compliant and there is no need to use a handcuff, then we would not.
01:20:57 But of course, if someone is violent or the perception that the person may be violent, they may be a harm to themselves, they may be a harm to the officer,
01:21:04 then we would use handcuffs on the persons to prevent anything that might escalate or anything that might happen to the officer or the person themselves.
01:21:13 We take a break and we come back and we wrap things up.
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01:21:53 This is Mary.
01:21:55 Mary has bills to pay and takes a chance parking in front of the building at the no parking sign.
01:22:02 Mary returns to her car and this is what happens.
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01:22:13 Mary decides to call when she is five minutes away to let her daughter know that she is close by.
01:22:19 But Mary forgot one thing.
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01:22:28 After two tickets, Mary just isn't paying attention to her speed.
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01:22:48 Don't be like Mary.
01:22:50 Obey the laws of the road.
01:22:52 A message from the TTPS.
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01:23:06 And we are back. Some quick information to the public.
01:23:09 I remember anyone, if you like, you could also go to the community center that I'm going to mention now.
01:23:17 So the Northeastern Division at Blanchie Shares Community Center, Parry and Main Road, Blanchie Shares on Saturday,
01:23:24 which is this Saturday, tomorrow the 24th, from 8am to 1pm.
01:23:29 And also in the Southwestern Division at Cedrus Community Center, Bonas Village, Cedrus, from 8am to 1pm on Saturday, which is tomorrow.
01:23:40 Feel free to go and participate. Ask questions that you need to ask.
01:23:47 And of course, in the Southern Division as well, Southwestern Division as well.
01:23:52 And get the information that you need to know. Don't be ignorant to the fact.
01:23:56 And it's always good to get more info and knowledge about things that are happening in our communities.
01:24:01 To ASP McKenzie, before we wrap things up, I know we were talking a lot about the detection and detection rate and what's going on.
01:24:13 And the movement or movements forward for the TTPS. Anything you'd like to say before we wrap things up?
01:24:20 Yeah, I think I want to encourage us as a law enforcement body to continue our strive.
01:24:27 We have been very successful at recovering a number of illegal firearms of the nations of the streets.
01:24:36 And the weapon of choice as it relates to homicide continues to be the firearm.
01:24:41 So, I mean, it could be, it's something that I think could work to our advantage if we rid our streets of illegal firearms.
01:24:50 So I encourage you to continue your efforts. And to Mr. Rishi Singh, who is the senior superintendent in charge of the Homicide Bureau.
01:24:58 I encourage you guys to continue to keep pushing towards that mark, towards your target, towards your goal of your reduction in crime.
01:25:08 And as it relates to our community policing efforts and even our saturated efforts and our patrols.
01:25:14 Every person who has a responsibility as it relates to the execution of our objectives.
01:25:21 I encourage you to continue doing what you have to do so that we can continue to make sure to be safe.
01:25:27 Just off topic, but I was asked to say a happy birthday.
01:25:30 A happy 75th birthday to one of the stalwarts of the organization.
01:25:35 As a matter of fact, when I joined the organization, this individual was an instructor in the police academy.
01:25:42 He's very well known within the circles of the TTPS.
01:25:45 He's none other than Mr. Franklin Archie.
01:25:48 So Mr. Archie, on behalf of the organization, on behalf of us here today, happy 75th birthday to you.
01:25:53 Happy birthday. And remember, we start from Monday from 6 p.m.
01:25:57 And we'll be discussing home invasions for the rest of the week.
01:26:00 So stay tuned for that and more on behalf of the entire team TNT.
01:26:04 Be safe until next week, Monday.
01:26:06 Up next, we get ready for news at 7 o'clock.
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