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02:40Good evening Trinidad and Tobago and welcome to Beyond the Tape.
02:42It is Tuesday the 30th of April.
02:45My name is Whitney Husbands and we welcome you.
02:47Now I know most of you may be wondering what is happening in Port of Spain
02:50because we are seeing a thick smoke that is of course covering certain parts of Port of Spain
02:57and you're not sure by where you're seeing the smoke coming from
03:01and then there's traffic restrictions taking place as well in the city.
03:04Now two vehicles were caught on fire today which was opposite the cathedral,
03:09a short while ago opposite the cathedral and it's close to the express building
03:14and that is why you're seeing right in front of you right now what transpired earlier,
03:19well not earlier today but a few hours ago in the Port of Spain area causing the traffic to be diverted in a different direction
03:27but persons are not harmed.
03:29Persons who are obviously in the area as well, no one was injured from reports that we received
03:35and of course we'll keep you all updated but from this video to now we are not seeing the vehicles obviously on fire
03:41but they are damaged, both vehicles are damaged and of course with that we'll give you more information
03:46of what caused the fire with those two vehicles in Port of Spain.
03:55So as we see what is taking place in the Port of Spain area and of course throughout Trinidad and Tobago
04:01we continue the discussion of community engagement with the TTPS
04:06and this evening I have the honor to have Inspector Kurt Callender of the Eastern Division here with us
04:13to speak a little bit more about the community engagement and the importance of us helping the TTPS
04:19in fighting crime in Trinidad and Tobago, good evening.
04:23Good evening to you Whitney and good evening to all our viewers and listeners in Trinidad and Tobago
04:28and wherever you are around the world, it is a pleasure to be here once again
04:33representing the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service and to speak to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago
04:40as it relates to the community engagement and partnership that the TTPS has been undertaking
04:46to assist in its fight against crime and to make every place in Trinidad and Tobago safe.
04:52Yes definitely, of course we will touch more on that with the community engagement
04:56especially in your division and how things are going but right now let's take a look at the headlines.
05:03The Trinidad and Tobago Police Department has released a statement to the Trinidad and Tobago Police Department
05:09stating that the Department of Trinidad and Tobago Police Department is committed to working with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Department
05:15to assist in the fight against crime in Trinidad and Tobago.
05:19The Department of Trinidad and Tobago Police Department is committed to working with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Department
05:25to assist in the fight against crime in Trinidad and Tobago.
05:29The Trinidad and Tobago Police Department is committed to working with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Department
05:34to assist in the fight against crime in Trinidad and Tobago.
05:36I remember you could give us a call at 623-1711 extension 1992, 1993, 1996 and 1997.
05:45Now I want to take a look at a video here that took place at East Dry River.
05:49A photo that is, my apologies, at East Dry River.
05:52Let's take a look at this where a man was shot and killed in the East Dry River area earlier this afternoon.
06:02And of course the investigation continues here.
06:05And this took place specifically in Jackson Hill in East Dry River.
06:10And as more, of course, stories come in that we see not just on Beyond the Tee but also on social media,
06:16I want to find out from you Inspector a little bit more what's taking place in your community, your division,
06:21where the TTPS is concerned, from the last time you were here.
06:24Well, from the last time that I was here till now, a lot has been happening in the Eastern Division.
06:30As ASP Janki would have mentioned yesterday, the Matlut, Matura and Toko areas, my community,
06:37are the three stations that I have responsibility for.
06:40And we had town meetings both in the Matlut district as well as the Matura district.
06:47And arising out of those town meetings, we are going to narrow it down and become more personal with the community
06:55by doing follow-ups in what is referred to as station council meetings.
07:01One of the things that I was happy about in the town meeting in Matura is that they have a functioning village council.
07:08And once a community has a functioning village council,
07:12there are a lot of things that we can do with that village council to assist them to address many of the social ills
07:21that exist within that community.
07:24And I think Matlut also has a community group as well.
07:28So it is our intention to continue to partner with not only those three communities but all the communities in Eastern Division.
07:38Last week, Thursday, there was a career fair arising out of the Northeastern Educational District,
07:45that are primary schools from Matura to Matlut.
07:50That was held in the Toko district, which I am responsible for.
07:54Thirteen primary schools, over 385 children, so to speak, came out.
07:59There were a number of persons partnered with them, including the TTPs, the Fire Service, the Ministry of Finance, the Air Guard,
08:10the Life Guard persons came out as well.
08:15There was even a funeral home at Akarede.
08:18It was the first time I ever went to Akarede and I saw a funeral agency there.
08:24They indicated that, well, yes, somebody has to build the corpse, somebody has to do the make-up of the deceased, their finances and all that kind of stuff.
08:33So the children were exposed to a number of different career opportunities or options.
08:40And of course, for the TTPs, we had the mounted and canine branches there.
08:44Which is always exciting for the children.
08:46Yes, the horses and the dogs stole the show as usual.
08:49Well, they came last year and I was told they stole the show.
08:52But I indicated to the organisers, the coordinator, look, once the horse and the dog touch down...
08:57That's it.
08:58Yes, that's it.
08:59And that is exactly what happened.
09:01You had the Guard and the Emergency Branch was there as well.
09:03And persons from the Traffic Branch, the CSI team, the Crime Team, they also have been a favourite for the children as well.
09:11And you also had the community-oriented policing section.
09:15Okay, understood.
09:16Now, we're speaking of children and the engagement that the TTPs has with the children in your community, your division.
09:24I am seeing now that there is, I don't want to say a trend because it is not so much there yet.
09:30But where children are bringing in edibles into schools.
09:36And it's serious now because it's coming, it's trickling in.
09:40And it's either gum, gummies, it could be chocolate, you name it.
09:46And I want to know if you all know about these things that's happening in some of these schools where the children may be knowingly bringing in the edibles into these schools.
09:56Or they think it's something that the parents engage in as in because they have a sweet tooth and not knowing is laced with some sort of drug-like substance.
10:04Well, it is a combination of both some of the children bringing it in but some of the children who are bringing it in and some of the children who are consuming it,
10:14it is unknown to them that it actually contains those hallucinogens as they are called.
10:22And I think today there is something circulating on social media but it is unconfirmed.
10:27Yes.
10:28A particular school in East Trinidad and some of the children had to be hospitalized.
10:33Yes, because they thought it was gum.
10:35Right.
10:36Normal gum.
10:37They thought it was gum.
10:39So the police in that division, that investigation is presently taking place.
10:45But what we usually do to prevent things like this is we have the SIU, which was formerly the Organized Crime and Narcotics Bureau.
10:55They usually engage along with officers of the community-oriented policing section and other officers.
11:01We go into the schools and we do our best to educate them as it relates to these edibles.
11:07Of course, to the untrained eye, it is not so easy to detect, to determine, well, what is edibles as opposed to the one that could be consumed.
11:19So therein lies the challenge.
11:23But we would continue to do the best that we can to educate and to protect our nation's children because they are the future of our nation.
11:31And these things, of course, it is mind-altering.
11:35And you can find children doing strange things, even placing themselves and others in danger.
11:43You understand?
11:44So it is a very serious cause for concern with me and it is definitely engaging the attention of the TTPs at this time.
11:51How are we going to deal with this then, especially with the parents?
11:54Because the parents are exposing our children to these edibles that are accessible, easily accessible,
12:05where the children can get it if they need and use it in school, carry it for a friend.
12:11Where are we going to make the parents understand by their actions are causing serious harm to children?
12:20Even theirs, when they have these items in their homes?
12:24Well, the truth be told, once those edibles contain narcotics, it is illegal.
12:31Now we have to be mindful now that one can be in possession of 30 grams of marijuana or less.
12:37So we also have to factor that in.
12:41And once our investigation leads us to the source or the sources, because when you are speaking about the 30 grams or less,
12:50it does not speak to school premises.
12:54Yes.
12:55And kindergarten schools, daycare centers, primary, secondary, and tertiary institutions,
13:01or any building or ground that is used or maintained by an educational institution is considered a school premises.
13:14Correct.
13:15And the weight of the narcotic does not apply at all.
13:20It is still an offense because of the fact that children need to be protected.
13:25So once our investigation leads us in a particular direction where we know who are the persons that are culpable,
13:34we are going to take the necessary action to ensure those persons are brought to justice.
13:40But that, of course, that investigation has to be ongoing for us to arrive at that place.
13:46So it's early days yet as it relates to who brought it and how much they brought and where they got it from and all that kind of stuff.
13:52But you can rest assured that we would get to the bottom of that.
13:57And it is our intention to pursue this matter and bring persons to justice to the fullest extent of the law.
14:04Most definitely.
14:05I think parents, too, you have to pay attention to your children and try to also inform them not to take things.
14:10Even though it's their friends, you don't know what the children are bringing to school from home to protect your children.
14:16I know that's the scariest thing to think about that.
14:19You know, your child is in school and you're thinking that a friend offers him a snack and you don't know if it's laced or not.
14:25So we have to speak to our children when it comes to accepting snacks from other children in the school.
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17:33Remember, you could give us a call at 623-1711.
17:36And we could give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1992, 1993, 1996, and 1997.
17:44If you're now joining us, we have Inspector Kalinda, who is here with us from the Eastern Division.
17:50But I want to speak to the officers yesterday who, by their quick actions, were able to apprehend individuals who tried or they committed a robbery.
18:00But of course, the officers were on them and was able to apprehend them in this matter.
18:05This happened in the Kanupia area, the Central Division, where four men are now assisting police with inquiries following a report of robbery with aggravation, robbery with violence.
18:18Where officers found and seized a firearm and ammunition during an anti-crime exercise yesterday.
18:25So hats off to the officers with their quick action.
18:28And even while this report we are reporting here right now, we got it yesterday.
18:34It was quick action.
18:35It was everything was happening so quickly.
18:37And many times we're not able to let the public know what the officers are doing.
18:42Yes, yes.
18:43Really excellent work by the officers there.
18:46They were able to catch the perpetrators in the act.
18:50Most definitely.
18:51Not only catch them, but also recover and seize their firearm with ammunition.
18:56So there is no telling what could have happened had the police officers not acted swiftly and intervened in that regard.
19:03Because a firearm, as we are fully aware, is not a perishable item.
19:07You cannot use it to commit crimes after crimes after crimes.
19:11It doesn't even have to be loaded.
19:13Exactly.
19:14So really excellent work.
19:15I mean, some commendation definitely is in order there.
19:17And of course, let's head to the Southern Division now where the Southern Division officers arrested a liberal and seized a firearm in that area.
19:26A 43-year-old liberal was arrested for possession of firearm and ammunition yesterday during an anti-crime exercise conducted in the St. Mary's Police District.
19:36Officers also seized the firearm and a quantity of ammunition.
19:41Again, the officers...
19:42Yes, ma'am.
19:43More excellent work again by the officers there.
19:45Of course, that is because of intelligence-led policing.
19:49Of course.
19:50So that is another firearm that we have taken off the streets as well as ammunition.
19:55And we want to send a strong message to the criminal elements that once they continue with their nefarious ways, well, we would not be relenting anytime soon.
20:05And we would continue to be in pursuit of the criminal elements.
20:08Yes.
20:09We have a call on the line.
20:10Let's take that call.
20:11Hello.
20:12Good evening.
20:13Good evening.
20:14Good evening to the Acting Inspector, Kurt Kalendere.
20:16Good afternoon, sir.
20:17I would want to make two contributions as a former police officer.
20:23Back in my time, we had serious supervision whereby I was attached to the criminal department.
20:30And we had an inspector who used to...
20:32Every week, we used to have to produce a court list.
20:35And we had to have warrants and so forth on exercise.
20:40And I think two things that are happening right now in combination to the officers who would have done an excellent job on the street center and bus and so forth.
20:50But I think one of the weaknesses right now in the police division or district in the charge room is the supervision of the corporal in the charge room.
21:04Because when somebody comes to make a report and is entered in the diary, the responsibility of the corporal is to ensure that report is followed up.
21:14If it's a crime, it must be entered in the relevant registers, followed by an investigation.
21:20If there's action to be taken, statement recorded.
21:24If not, right of the crime by an FBA.
21:28But I'm not seeing that happening with the supervision of the seniors in the station.
21:38And that is, Mr. Kalenda would know something called CYA, right?
21:44And I think most of the time, the police officers in Trinidad and Tobago are facing something that because they're not doing what they're supposed to do, their matters are dismissed.
21:55They face the court because of the lack of supervision by the senior and the junior.
22:02A lot of them don't know how to take a statement, record, and they are not making cases.
22:09Since we arrived now finally, since we arrived now on virtual hearing, officers are not, whether it's domestic violence, minor crime, minor offense, they are not making cases.
22:21They come to Rupini Station, they go to get a double, they get a soft drink, and they remain in the station.
22:28Rarely do you see people on patrol.
22:31And I think as a measure of being proactive as a former police officer, we used to visit schools, business places, stores, and walk in the community and build that bond.
22:44But that has out the window.
22:46Thank you very much, everybody.
22:47I wish your contribution.
22:48Thank you.
22:49Thank you very much, Koala.
22:50The Koala made some very salient, put it in points, as it relates to supervision at the middle management level.
22:58Yes.
22:59From the level of the corporals, the sergeants, and the inspectors.
23:03And he is correct.
23:05If there is no proper supervision at that level, then things are going to fall apart as it relates to the proper recording of the crimes, the proper classification of the crime, and of course, following up, appointing an investigator to do that investigation, and you the corporal, the sergeant, or the inspector doing that follow-up.
23:26Because it seems like that is something that we are faced with in most of the different divisions in Trinidad and Tobago where persons will go on and they're asking, you know, what is going on with the matter?
23:37They always have to reach out.
23:39Officers are not reaching out to victims with reports made.
23:43Sometimes they can't find the report.
23:45They don't know where they placed the report.
23:47And this is something that is not new.
23:49No, it's not.
23:50And that is what the Koala was speaking about, the supervision.
23:53Once that supervision is there, the corporal's responsibility, the sergeant and the inspector's responsibility is to follow up with that investigator.
24:03What is happening with that report?
24:05And we have standing orders that tells us when certain reports ought to be submitted by.
24:11And once you know that you did not receive, you as the corporal or the sergeant or the inspector, didn't receive a particular report by a particular time, then you have to go and inquire, what is happening with this report, corporal?
24:22What is happening with this report, sergeant?
24:24And we do have disciplinary procedures in place to treat with the middle managers or anyone for that matter who failed to perform their role and functions in accordance with the set guidelines of the TTP.
24:39That is why we have disciplinary tribunals that take place on a daily basis.
24:43We have another call.
24:44Let's take that call.
24:45Hello.
24:46Good evening.
24:47Good evening, Whitney.
24:48Good evening.
24:49And good evening to Mr. Kalinda.
24:50Good evening, sir.
24:51As usual, Whitney, you look beautiful this evening.
24:54Mr. Kalinda.
24:55Yes, sir.
24:56You are complimented, Whitney, this evening with your appearance and to note your attire.
25:01Thank you, sir.
25:02This is what I like to see officers.
25:04This is how I like to see officers present themselves to the public.
25:10And I commend you.
25:12I love your diction, Mr. Kalinda.
25:15I'm familiar with you as well.
25:17And you seem to be an officer with a lot of information and a lot of knowledge of profession.
25:24And that seems to be something that could be contagious, yeah, once we have these things.
25:31I like the fact that, you know, you brought on the community policing aspect.
25:35And also I heard about you reaching out to encourage more persons to come in, you know, to the organization.
25:42But the appearance, Mr. Kalinda, is what stands out this evening.
25:47If I may, just on an off note, I don't know if you know Mr. Curtis Lloyd.
25:51Maybe you may have been exposed to the service back then.
25:54Yes, sir.
25:55He's still around with us.
25:56And I just wanted to extend to him birthday greetings and bright and shining 77.
26:03You know, it's good to see that, you know, officers could also enjoy that retirement as well.
26:09So I want to extend a happy birthday greetings to him.
26:12It was yesterday.
26:14And so you may be familiar with him as a lecturer in the barracks back then.
26:19Yes.
26:20And I'm sure he is proud to see that, you know, his work is continuing and we have officers like you shining the light for the, you know, for the public as well.
26:29Take care, Mr. Kalinda.
26:31Be safe.
26:32Thank you very much, Koala, for those glowing compliments and tributes.
26:37And I want to also extend happy belated birthday to Mr. Curtis Lloyd.
26:40I knew him very well.
26:41I was a trainee in the academy in 1997.
26:44I think he was the superintendent in charge of the academy at the time.
26:48Yes.
26:49Very knowledgeable gentleman.
26:51So, I mean, the public is seeing definitely what you all are doing.
26:53So we'll take a break.
26:54When we come back, we'll continue with more after this.
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29:00And we're back.
29:02And remember, you can give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1992, 1993, 1996 and 1997.
29:11We have Inspector Kalinda, of course, from the Eastern Division.
29:15And I want to talk more about the community engagement.
29:17And I understand that you all had a career fair that took place as well.
29:21Let us know a little bit more what happened there.
29:25And, of course, the engagement with the community and what you're trying to get from doing these career fairs.
29:32Oh, absolutely.
29:33So last week, Thursday, the Northeastern Educational District had 13 primary schools where they had a career fair for them.
29:42And that involved primary schools from Matura to Matlut.
29:48And this is where a number of stakeholders come together to demonstrate to the children what some of their career options can be.
29:58And so we had, as I mentioned earlier, in addition to the TTPs, we had the Fire Service, the Ministry of Finance, Guardian Life was there, Guardian Group.
30:10We had Life Guard. We had the Air Guard. We had the Fire Service.
30:17We even had a funeral home, as I would have mentioned earlier.
30:21And that is my officer there from Togo looking very sad, Corporal Bagan.
30:25And from the TTPs, we had the Mounted and Canine Branch, where when the horses and the dogs touched down, Whitney will.
30:33That is it there.
30:34We also had persons from the Traffic Branch.
30:36The CSI team was also a big hit, as I would have mentioned.
30:40And also the Traffic Branch with the bike.
30:43The children love to take pictures on the bike and so on.
30:46So out of these initiatives, and of course this is in keeping with our strategic pillar number one, which speaks to community partnership.
30:54And strategic pillar number two, public safety.
30:57We take opportunities like this to partner with the community so that we can engage the children.
31:03Because they are the future of our nation.
31:06So in addition to them going around riding the horses and so on, the thing within the thing, if you want to call it that, is to let them know,
31:13look, you do not have to fall prey to the criminal elements.
31:17There are a number of career options that are available to you.
31:21Once you remain in primary school and you are successful in your SAE, you graduate onto secondary school.
31:29That's me there.
31:30You graduate onto secondary school and you get your passes.
31:34There are a number of career options available to you where you can make an honest living.
31:39So you do not have to fall prey to those criminal elements at all.
31:43And it was an overwhelming success, if I may say so.
31:47Now, the caller previously spoke about the foot patrol.
31:50Yes.
31:51And in your division, does that work?
31:53Is it allowing the persons in the community to see who some of the officers are from your division and interact with the officers?
32:01Does the foot patrol work?
32:03Well, yes.
32:04I think as ASP Janki would have mentioned, the foot patrol has its advantages and disadvantages as well as the mobile.
32:10One of the great advantages of a foot patrol, you get that one-on-one and personal touch with the members of your community
32:20so you can relate and interact with them on a one-on-one basis.
32:23You can get to know them better and they can get to know you better.
32:27And you can find out from them, okay, what are some of your concerns in the community?
32:32So that foot patrol is really, really good.
32:35It continues to work wonders.
32:38Of course, there are some terrains that are not easily accessible by foot.
32:42Of course.
32:43So you have to use mobile or bicycles and so on.
32:46But the foot patrol has been working very well in the three states and districts that I am a part of,
32:54especially when you go on a foot patrol in the schools.
32:57I mean, the children love to see the presence of the police, interact with the police and stuff like that.
33:02We even do community walkabouts as well where we engage with the members of the public
33:08so that they can see that police presence, that police visibility,
33:12which from time immemorial till now would continue to act as a deterrent to crime
33:17because when people see the police, the criminal elements, they may think twice now as it relates to crime.
33:23We have a call on the line.
33:24So let's take that call.
33:25Hello.
33:26Good evening.
33:27Hello.
33:28Hello.
33:29Yes, you're live.
33:30Go ahead, sir.
33:31Yes, thank you.
33:32Good evening, Inspector Callender and Ms. Husband.
33:36Good evening.
33:37And, Inspector, I want to join with the other person and persons who called to commend you
33:43and your department and how you addressed for the program.
33:49I've often found it interesting that even from the level of corporal to executive members of the police service,
33:58they don't seem to be – well, have pride in coming on this program wearing their uniform.
34:08And it looks so good seeing you there because I already called in communities years ago
34:14when we see a policeman in uniform, how everybody would look up to that person and commend them and obey them.
34:22But now on a program like Beyond the Tip where you have police officers, as I said,
34:29from the level of corporal up to the executive officers who don't seem to take pride in coming on the program with their uniforms.
34:39So even when you have community exercises, the young people in the community,
34:45they look forward to seeing someone in uniform.
34:49And if they are coming here on this program and they can't wear a uniform, then I'm so disappointed.
34:56On the other hand, I want to highly commend – there was a constable at the Iruka Police Station two Sundays ago
35:06who responded to a call from the community about a person who had recently moved into a Twin City area who plays loud music.
35:18Because despite numerous attempts to contact the sergeant in charge who is with the Iruka Police Council,
35:28he's either never available or in a meeting or some sort and does not seem to show the interest that should be shown at the community level.
35:39So I want to commend that constable. He did not identify himself as an acting corporal or anything,
35:46but he said he was the senior constable on the shift at that time.
35:51And within 10 to 15 minutes, there was a patrol response to the area that we spoke about,
36:01and the problem was dealt with immediately after today's.
36:06So out of Iruka Police, where I know they get a lot of bashing,
36:11I want to say that that constable did a remarkable job for the police service.
36:19Stay home, sir. Inspector, sir, that your people can come on this program with their uniform.
36:28If they're not proud about it, oh gosh, please stay home.
36:32Thank you and have a pleasant afternoon.
36:35Thank you. Thank you once again, Kola, for your sentiments, for your compliments. I do appreciate that.
36:41And I would echo your sentiments as it relates to the constable in the Iruka Police Station,
36:46to his inspector, who I know quite well, so that that could be trickled down to the constable as well,
36:53because we are speaking about operational excellence.
36:56Yes, that one letter indicating good work or excellent work could go a long way in improving the moral of not only that police officer,
37:05but to the other officers on his shift or in the station as well.
37:08And I mean, a little goes a long way.
37:11Now, we have to go to a break shortly, but this seems like a conversation that irks some persons,
37:19but even viewing some of the officers on the show with uniform, but it seems like there is the officers who come here.
37:26I don't see any sort of alterations on the uniform other than some of them that the sleeves could roll to a three quarter.
37:35Yes, the tactical way. Yes, there is it.
37:38There are actually provisions for persons to roll it up and pin it somewhere around here where you can wear it with a long sleeve.
37:47Some people choose to wear it with a long sleeve. Some people choose to roll it up because there's a button.
37:51There's something that they are provisional for that.
37:53For that. So clearly, sometimes I'm guessing some of the viewers may not know that.
37:58No, they may not. But that is only for the tactical way.
38:01Well, of course, this is short. No, no. Well, yes, I know that.
38:04But I think that there are changes to the uniform as time goes by, times things are evolving.
38:10So things that may you may have known before, you may not know now, but the changes in the uniform.
38:16So I don't think the officers are coming here to disrespect the uniform in any way.
38:19I don't think so. But I mean, I take the caller's point that you must wear the uniform with pride.
38:25Yes. We take a break. We'll be back.
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40:20Inspector, I want to find out from you, how do you all measure the success from the community engagement in your division?
40:28That is a quite interesting question.
40:30So every Monday morning, we have something called the Divisional CompStat.
40:36And the CAPA, which is the Crime and Problem Analysis Branch,
40:40they come to us and let us know the areas that we are doing well in and the areas that we need to improve in.
40:49And some of those areas that we are doing well in is what you call success stories.
40:54So arising out of these community initiatives, some of our success stories is on Wednesday, the 17th of April, 2024.
41:03An intelligence-led operation was conducted in the San Miguel Grande Police District,
41:07where a team of officers proceeded three miles into the forest, a forested area in Grande,
41:13and they proceeded to destroy marijuana and marijuana, over $10 million worth.
41:19Well, close to $11 million worth of marijuana and equipment was destroyed on three acres of forested land.
41:27And that is, of course, as a result of, because of the fact that the initiatives that we undertook in the past,
41:34because the trust that we were able to build didn't happen overnight.
41:41And those persons were able to pass on certain information to us, which we converted into intelligence-led policing.
41:49The other success story, which is in one of my station districts, I'm not tooting my own horn here,
41:54the Matua Station District, on Thursday, the 18th of April, 2024, they would have arrested,
42:00they would have stopped their vehicle and searched the vehicle along with five occupants,
42:04and several counterfeit notes were found in their possession.
42:10And they were actually farming it off on unsuspecting small businesses.
42:14To purchase items?
42:16Yes, in the Matua and the Topo District.
42:19And an exercise was undertaken by a number of the officers, including myself,
42:25and five persons were arrested and eventually charged for altering those counterfeit bills,
42:31as well as being in possession of them.
42:33So is that something that you're seeing a lot of in your division,
42:37where persons are using counterfeit monies to purchase items,
42:42so of course they're doing it in a way where they will get back the authentic?
42:47This is the first one we have gotten for the year.
42:50But further investigation has revealed that, I don't know if it is the same person,
42:54but there were reports of a similar nature in the Central Division and other divisions as well.
43:00Because it appears to be a well-knit criminal enterprise that has been ongoing for quite some time,
43:08and without divulging too much, even though five persons were charged,
43:12the investigation is still ongoing.
43:14So we want to appeal to the business community,
43:18be mindful of the counterfeit, the $100 that you are receiving,
43:23and they are very cost-effective tools that one can buy to determine the authenticity of a $100.
43:31So looking up to the ceiling, towards the light,
43:35putting the bill towards the light is not really a sufficient way of getting it?
43:38No, no it's not. I would have seen both US and TT money counterfeit,
43:43and I stood there looking at it for 15, 20 minutes and I still could not tell the difference.
43:49So you have the devices that are reasonable?
43:52Some people use the pen, as the banks do,
43:56because some persons, that might be the only sale that they may make for the day.
44:04And they give up their hard-earned change to end up with counterfeit money.
44:10And that's terrible. We have a call on the line, let's take that call. Hello, good evening.
44:13Hello, good evening.
44:15Yes, go ahead.
44:17Yes, good evening.
44:20The initiative that we are asking for,
44:26the initiative that we put in place,
44:31when you see something,
44:34I think, while that is good,
44:39I think the issue lies with what happens after you see something.
44:46Because I've seen something, and I've said something,
44:51and subsequently, there was a time I began to feel as though I was harassing the officer.
44:58You know?
45:00There's a matter I reported, and two years have gone by,
45:05and not one thing has been done.
45:09Now, it's not that we don't want to see something and say something,
45:15to prepare to say something,
45:17but after we say something, nothing happens.
45:21And that is discouraging.
45:23So that aspect of it needs to be looked at.
45:25When you're already covered the basics,
45:27you just see something and say something, yes, you encourage people.
45:30But you set that.
45:33What is something that that initiative already blocks from?
45:37Because after you say something, nothing happens.
45:41Right?
45:43So I think that aspect of the initiative you need to look at,
45:46and you need to develop it.
45:48Thank you.
45:49Thank you.
45:50The second caller.
45:51Well, Whitney, that is a very...
45:53A report.
45:54Yes, it is interesting that the caller asks,
45:57what happens after we say something?
45:59I want to give the caller the assurance,
46:01and the rest of Trinidad and Tobago,
46:04Every time you see something and you say something,
46:07that information does not fall on deaf ears.
46:11We may not have the sufficient evidence
46:15to arrest that person or those persons
46:18before a charge or charge is against them.
46:21But that information is stored in a database.
46:23That person or those persons are now on the police radar.
46:27So it is not simply a case,
46:29well, I didn't see the man get locked up.
46:31Now the information you give us,
46:33we have to convert it into evidence.
46:35Understand?
46:36Because it must reach the threshold
46:38for us to perform a charge or charge against someone.
46:42But he said it was two years.
46:44Well, I don't know the nature and the extent of what he said,
46:48but I can tell you that many of the persons
46:52who call the station in relation to giving us certain information,
46:56it requires painstaking, in-depth inquiry
47:00for us to unearth that evidence.
47:03It also requires us to have certain persons under surveillance.
47:06We may very well have taken out and searched their houses.
47:10We didn't get anything.
47:12We might have searched their persons,
47:14searched their vehicles.
47:15We didn't get anything.
47:16But guess what?
47:17They are on the police radar.
47:18It is not necessarily a case
47:21that you give the information and nothing happens.
47:24Behind the scenes, a number of things may be taking place.
47:27Now mind you,
47:28some of these persons might be calling anonymously,
47:31800-555-800-TIPS and so on.
47:34We do not have any way and means of contacting that person
47:38to give them a feedback.
47:39In addition to that,
47:40giving them a feedback could even put their life in danger.
47:44So it may not be wise,
47:45based on the sensitive nature of this investigation,
47:48to show up by your house or call your phone,
47:50which you may call anonymously,
47:53to say, well, Ms. Mitley,
47:54in relation to your neighbor,
47:56who you reported have drugs and guns and so on.
48:00We searched their house,
48:01but we didn't get anything.
48:02Just showing up by your house could put your life at risk.
48:05We may call your phone the wrong time.
48:08So they might know the station number.
48:10So we have to be very careful
48:13and treat with every information that comes to us
48:17rather sensitively and in a professional manner.
48:20But I want to give the call out
48:22and the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago
48:24to continue saying something when you see something
48:28because the information would not be falling on deaf ears.
48:31It would not be in vain.
48:33Yeah, but it just seems like a track record for us
48:36as civilians out here seeing and making reports.
48:39And as you say, you get the information.
48:42Sometimes citizens can't even get a copy of the report
48:45because they can't find it.
48:47So if I made a report,
48:48like in the instance of this gentleman,
48:50and something I saw,
48:52and I see the person not in his case,
48:542 years, nothing happening,
48:56which is to say that they have the report still
48:58to say it is in the database.
49:00So sometimes I guess what the caller
49:03and the previous caller is also saying
49:05is that the officers need to be a little more hands-on
49:09and efficient with when receiving information
49:12and reports are given,
49:14it gives somewhat lazy behavior.
49:18Not saying all officers do that,
49:20but the interaction that some persons get
49:22when they're trying to say something
49:25from seeing something causes them to say,
49:27well, you know what, I'm not going to say nothing.
49:29Again, because it seems like, you know,
49:31it's not falling on deaf ears,
49:33but it's not followed through.
49:35The report on the incident or whatever has been reported
49:38is not dealt with properly.
49:41Well, Whitney, you are correct,
49:43and the caller is also correct.
49:45We have been tardy in many instances
49:48as it relates to follow-up and feedback
49:51where some basic trivial reporting or reports are concerned,
49:56and the last time I was on this program,
49:58I had to apologize to one of the callers who called.
50:01So as much as we are not where we want to be,
50:05we are definitely not where we used to be,
50:07and customer service training is something that is ongoing,
50:11and we continue to assess ourselves
50:14and we're also asking you to continue to hold us accountable
50:18as members of the public, Whitney,
50:20so that we would know where we are falling short
50:23and where we need to improve.
50:26Yes, we have to take a break.
50:27When we come back, we will wrap things up.
50:29We'll be back.
50:30We'll be back.
51:01CAPITÃO CAPU
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51:11Likely you already carry the virus that causes shingles.
51:14If you are 50 or older, ask your doctor about shingles.
51:22What's up, guys? This is Capitão Capu,
51:25and I'm very happy to be back in Trinidad
51:28for this game on May 10, Friday.
51:31As the 2002 World Cup champion,
51:35I'm very excited to return to this wonderful country, Trinidad and Tobago.
51:41You have no idea how happy I am to be part of this select team
51:46that on May 10, Friday, will be playing this game,
51:50entertaining us, entertaining the public.
51:53So, Trinidad and Tobago, Capitão Capu, I'm coming!
51:57I'm coming!
52:06So, you have big plans for the year, right?
52:09A trip in July, birthday in November,
52:12and fet after fet this carnival.
52:15But you know where to stop plans?
52:18A $22,500 fine.
52:22You know what else could really stop your plans?
52:25Five years imprisonment,
52:27and suspension on your license for three years.
52:30Don't drink and drive.
52:43And we are back, and of course, we're here at our final segment for this evening.
52:48And Inspector, the floor is yours to, of course, speak to the public
52:51and let them know more of what you're doing in your division.
52:54Well, I want to take this opportunity at this time, Whitney,
52:57to really say thank you to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago
53:02for imposing their trust in us
53:05and to operationalize many of the anti-crime operations
53:10consistent with our crime plans.
53:12And many times, you know, we would have the naysayers and so on,
53:17don't trust the police and so on.
53:19Similarly, what the gentleman said, he said,
53:21when we see something, what happens?
53:23Well, we really want to thank all the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago,
53:27even persons who are residing here,
53:29as well as persons who are residing here,
53:31for partnering with the police
53:33and being a part of all our anti-crime initiatives
53:37as well as our community outreach initiatives,
53:40because we cannot do it on our own.
53:42We need that support from you.
53:44We need that information from you.
53:46So to you, the citizenry, and the persons that reside here,
53:50we want to say thank you, thank you, thank you,
53:52so very much for partnering with us,
53:54and we want to encourage you to continue to partner with us,
53:57continue to give up that information.
53:59That one firearm that we take up the streets because of you
54:05could very well turn around and save your life,
54:08your children's lives, somebody close to your life.
54:11So do not say that you are fed up in giving the information
54:15with me and the other citizens.
54:18We need that information.
54:19We need it to keep you safe.
54:21So continue to put your trust in us,
54:25and we would continue to give you results.
54:28Give us the information with me and citizens,
54:31and we would continue to give you that positive result.
54:35One firearm taken up the street,
54:37one wrong, the narcotics and so on,
54:41it does save lives because guns and drugs go together.
54:44It is a very lethal combination,
54:47and we want to ask citizens, as I mentioned, partner with us.
54:52You do your part in giving us the information,
54:57and we are going to do our part in giving you those results
55:02so that together we would form a symbiotic relationship
55:06to make every place in Trinidad and Tobago safe.
55:09Yes.
55:10So, of course, with your community that is there,
55:14you really have interest for your officers in your division.
55:17What could you tell the other officers in different divisions
55:21when it comes to community engagement before we close off?
55:25Well, I would really encourage the officers in the other nine divisions
55:29to make that of very paramount importance
55:33because the public and the police have to work together.
55:38There has to be a symbiotic relationship
55:40between the police and the public.
55:42So make that your priority to have community engagements,
55:46go out, meet the people, hold your town meetings,
55:50hold your station council meetings,
55:52have activities for the youth,
55:54get involved in working alongside the police youth clubs
55:58that engage young people between the age of 5 to 29 years,
56:02engage the village council and what other community groups
56:06that it have in the community.
56:09Once you engage them, you are going to touch all ages
56:13because youth club is 5 to 29,
56:15you have the village council,
56:17you have the community groups and so on.
56:19And you are going to build that trust
56:22between the police and the public,
56:24bringing the public closer to the police
56:27so that you would get the necessary information
56:29and the assistance that you need
56:31because in every relationship, if there is no trust,
56:34well, the relationship is not going to last.
56:38So I want to encourage all my officers out there,
56:41engage the members of the public every day of the week,
56:44Saturdays and Sundays,
56:46so that they could know who you are,
56:49they could get to know you better,
56:51they could build that level of trust in you
56:53and that symbiotic relationship would be formed
56:57so that the criminal element
56:59should have no other choice but to flee.
57:01Of course.
57:02We'd like to thank you so much, Inspector Kirk Callender
57:04of the Eastern Division for being here with us
57:06and, of course, persons in the Port of Spain area.
57:08I'm sure there's an ease-up now
57:10and you're able to have a proper flow
57:12with the traffic coming into the beautiful city of Port of Spain
57:15because of the fire happening earlier today.
57:18Get ready for news coming up next at 7 o'clock.
57:21We'll be back tomorrow.
57:22It's Wednesday tomorrow, so it's Illegal Minds.
57:24TNT, get ready for your news coming up next.
57:27God bless. We're out.
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