00:00But when Malik neighbors went down, I got to tell you guys,
00:03I start thinking about Jerry Judy.
00:05Like I saw the body language stuff.
00:07I saw their people ripping them saying when they scored the game,
00:10when he tore a game, when they went ahead in the game with Blake Whiteheart,
00:14like he's like, he don't even want to be there.
00:16He didn't even celebrate.
00:17Just kind of waltzed off right by him.
00:19And I understand that Jerry Judy,
00:20it can be a cantankerous figure in so many ways.
00:24I don't really want to rip them too crazily because as Lima has pointed out,
00:28all right, you got two really good young wide receivers,
00:32but if you lose one of them, God forbid,
00:34now all of a sudden Jerry Judy has a different role within this offense.
00:38By the way, I know you're not getting a second rounder for Jerry Judy,
00:41so we are abundantly clear with my history of sarcasm being over the last 15 years
00:45just to make sure my boss understands fully that it's a joke
00:49that we could get a second rounder for Jerry Judy.
00:53It's a joke.
00:54We should be getting a first rounder for Jerry Judy.
00:55If you can get a second rounder for Jerry Judy, again, I'm serious.
00:58I'd take a first.
00:59Again, you put the I'm serious with it.
01:02I didn't say I'm serious.
01:04You do that.
01:05We're in an age of AI.
01:06Back then it was funny.
01:07Now it's scary.
01:09I've been looking for the actual play for Caleb Williams to go down,
01:12and I can't find it.
01:13I just find the AI videos.
01:14So last week I got mad.
01:16I didn't get mad.
01:17I was very critical of Todd Munkin for saying something along the lines of,
01:23coolest job in the world, so excited to be a head coach in the NFL,
01:26and he keeps saying it.
01:27Go right ahead, and if you can, go ahead and let everybody back in on that
01:31whole little bit.
01:32Well, you want to hear the one after the loss or after the win?
01:35Because he says it as many times as he can.
01:38Go ahead.
01:39Which one do you want to hear?
01:40Dealer's choice.
01:42Here it is.
01:43Two weeks ago.
01:44I'm not down.
01:45I'm disappointed.
01:46I mean, you're not going to get me down.
01:48I mean, I've waited a long time to be a head coach in this league, man.
01:50It's freaking awesome.
01:52Okay.
01:53You have the one after they win?
01:54Where's the one after they win?
01:56Do you got that one on you?
01:56There you go.
01:57Takes everybody, and I'm super proud of our guys, the week they put in,
02:01because that's all you can do.
02:02All that does is give you a chance.
02:03It doesn't guarantee anything.
02:04But if you don't put in the work and you don't pull your big boy pants up
02:07and fight like hell to fix it, it's not going to work,
02:09and you're not going to get better.
02:11And that's what we're going to continue to do.
02:12I got the greatest job in the world.
02:14I'm the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, for God's sakes.
02:15How cool is that?
02:17So there is a little bit of a difference there.
02:19He's proud of his guys.
02:20There is a difference there.
02:22And I said, you know, after a loss, it just sounds like you're just happy to be there.
02:25And there's two things that it starts to sound like.
02:27One is you're just happy you got the job, and you really don't know how to do the job.
02:32Or two, you took the job, everybody was warning you about the job,
02:35and now you just keep trying to talk yourself into it.
02:37I was critical about that.
02:39You didn't disagree with me about that, right?
02:41Okay?
02:42Owen didn't disagree with me on that either.
02:44They win on Sunday against Tampa Bay.
02:47Todd Munkin then drops this at the end of the press conference,
02:51which had some people talking out and about.
02:55I thought our guys did a great job of hanging together.
02:58We had a couple scuffles Wednesday, which is good.
03:00That's awesome, because guys didn't like it.
03:02They're a little pissed off.
03:03You ought to be a little pissed off.
03:04Played awful.
03:04It wasn't the standard.
03:05Browns are going to Browns.
03:07F*** that.
03:08I think there's a tremendous...
03:09I think the guys took that to heart.
03:10I think there's a tremendous difference here.
03:11And the tremendous difference is one is about his team.
03:14And when he says he's the head coach of the Cleveland Browns,
03:17it's about his team.
03:19That's...
03:19I think that there is a difference there.
03:21There were some people who were like,
03:22I can't believe you didn't go after him for saying that.
03:24I go, I don't need a guy to stand up there
03:28and be laconic and be a politician.
03:30I do think that that words matter.
03:32I think that tenor matters.
03:33As people who talk every single day
03:34and try to put different meanings on things
03:36and get upset that we're taken out of context here and there
03:39and all that other stuff,
03:40I do think that it matters.
03:41And reaching people through the media,
03:44through these press conferences,
03:45reaching your own team through it,
03:47I think that matters.
03:48You know, having that stuck out there,
03:50because I know he tried to like poo-poo it last week
03:54when Mike Tomlin said that for television's sake.
03:56That was something he used all week on them.
03:58100%.
03:58That was something he said all week on them.
04:00I was like a college coach.
04:01That they just think that you're garbage.
04:02They just think you're an also-ran.
04:04You need to come out here this week
04:05against a guy who's planning to stick it to you
04:07and stick it back at him.
04:09Like, that's what I think he was doing.
04:11I think there is a tremendous difference.
04:13And you can hear this week by week with coaches,
04:15and this is where they start to lose it,
04:17where it's about themselves as a verse to it's about their team.
04:20And I think Todd Munkin has tried to do the very best he can
04:23to keep it about teams.
04:24It's only been two weeks,
04:25but I think he's done a very good job.
04:27And that's why, no,
04:28yeah, he cusses at the end of the press conference.
04:30Okay, I've heard worse.
04:32I've heard worse and worse situations.
04:34I didn't find it to be a problem other than,
04:36yeah, you got to be able to dump it
04:37because you're not allowed to air those things.
04:38I've heard Tom Brady say worse on network television
04:41doing football games.
04:43That was a lot.
04:44Twice last week.
04:45He did it twice?
04:46Yeah, yeah.
04:47Well, the one wasn't a curse.
04:48It was just how he described a really nice throw.
04:51Oh, I heard the one.
04:54I heard the one on the Daniels injury.
04:55Yeah, I'm sorry.
04:56Go ahead.
04:57What were you going to say about Todd?
04:58But just look, we're so new into this.
05:01And I know, obviously,
05:03all of our minds went to one and done after that loss.
05:05Even if you're the biggest Todd Munkin fan in the world,
05:08we were all like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
05:11This could not have gotten off to a worse start.
05:13And we weren't expected to be good this year anyway.
05:15And we don't think we really have a quarterback.
05:17So you put all those things together.
05:19It's a perfect storm for a guy to be one and done.
05:21It was nice.
05:23It was nice for Todd, who heard all that stuff.
05:26Because he even admitted to us when he was here in studio with us
05:30that he does pay attention.
05:32And I think it's part of what drives him.
05:33I know you'd never want to pay too much attention
05:35to what everybody is saying.
05:37But you also don't want to live in a bubble
05:39where you don't even know what.
05:41Because you need to be able to anticipate, you know, reaction
05:44and what the dumb media is going to ask you,
05:47you know, at these press conferences.
05:49If we were there, we'd ask the same dumb questions.
05:51Whatever.
05:51That's just the way the job is set up.
05:53So I thought it was cool that, hey, they got the first win.
05:58Every coach hopes to get at least one and have it take off from there.
06:02And he went into this season.
06:04I guarantee you he went into this season
06:06with much higher expectations than most of the fan base.
06:10And so when they came out and he said,
06:13we didn't hit the standard in week one, that gutted him.
06:16He probably could not believe how humiliating that week one was.
06:20I agree wholeheartedly.
06:21But there's also a point where I do think that,
06:25I think that there's people who cannot stand the quarterback.
06:27They cannot stand that he picked the quarterback.
06:29Okay, fine.
06:30But I have to try to be fair.
06:31I have to try to see it and call it down the line as best I can.
06:34And yeah, obviously I'm an excitable person.
06:35So if things start to go the bronze way,
06:37it's going to be hard to keep the alligators down.
06:39And the other thing is with Todd Monk,
06:41because I think that after the loss against Jacksonville,
06:44where it really felt like it was 34 to three,
06:46I know that they put up the touchdown at the end,
06:47but everybody said it was garbage time, including the coach.
06:50I think after the loss to Jacksonville,
06:52it was this feeling of let's get the season over with.
06:54We don't like the quarterback.
06:55We don't like how the coach sounds.
06:57We don't like any of this.
06:58And it's like, I can't keep harping.
07:01If they win this week coming up against Carolina,
07:03am I going to go back to week one and how I felt about week one,
07:06if they're two and one to start the season?
07:08No, I know that a lot of people don't like Deshaun Watson.
07:12I can still say that he was an effective quarterback.
07:15He didn't set the world on fire.
07:16Second half was good.
07:17Second half was good,
07:18but I can still say he did an effective job.
07:20And yeah, I didn't like how Todd Monk can sign it after week one.
07:23All right.
07:24I was alarmed.
07:25I thought, and I did not like that.
07:27They, I didn't like how they tried to do a jet sweep.
07:29Just go get the first down on the first drive.
07:31Okay.
07:31They still were able to fix that.
07:33I didn't like that.
07:34They went forward on fourth down.
07:35I still thought that they did a good job of taking care of the quarterback.
07:39He's afraid to throw the football down the field to start things off.
07:42Fine.
07:43Go ahead and dink and dunk, but you're not able to run the ball that well.
07:46He's a little bit nervous around the offensive line.
07:48Okay.
07:49Let's move the pocket a little around.
07:50I mean,
07:51you're allowed to be a good coach and try your best to help out your player.
07:54You mean coach around weaknesses of a team?
07:56So I'm trying to find,
07:57it's not trying to find the good things about trying to be honest about the good
08:00things that I see.
08:01And just because people don't necessarily care for the quarterback doesn't mean
08:05I'm going to go rip it on Todd Munkin just because he said something.
08:08Yeah.
08:08It's obviously going to stick out to a person like me who likes it when people
08:11cuss and likes it when people show emotion,
08:13especially out there as football coaches.
08:15That speaks to me.
08:16That's fish in a barrel.
08:17So one thing when you're sitting,
08:19it's one thing when you're sitting there and you sound like you're just happy to
08:21be here.
08:22That's whatever.
08:23That just sounds like you won the lottery.
08:25That doesn't help me.
08:26You know,
08:26honestly,
08:27who it does sound like sounds like his old boss,
08:29Freddie kitchens.
08:29I can't have that.
08:30Okay.
08:31I can't have that.
08:32What I can have is you being smart from week to week,
08:37helping,
08:37helping your players.
08:39And then,
08:40yeah,
08:40you want to talk a little bit tough after they just ripped you after you got a
08:43big road win and dealt with all the distractions.
08:47Yeah.
08:47Go ahead and let it ride.
08:49It's not going to mean much in 48 hours,
08:51but go ahead and let it ride.
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