00:00if we're going to be talking about losing games all right if you're just not good enough you're
00:04just not good enough but you just can't have guys roll over and die it's a tough needle to thread
00:09man i agree but you know just these things tend to work and work its way out the way they're
00:14supposed to now look if shador comes in in week three or at halftime of week two and it's like
00:21whoa okay he has absolutely taken a step forward and developed you're not going to hear me say
00:27every week well i'd rather have the number one pick like i'm just i i know there will be people
00:31that'll say that because they don't think they don't believe in shador i i at least will give
00:35him the shot and if he looks like he's a totally different player in year two then okay we'll have
00:41totally different conversations i'm looking at it from today from the standpoint of yeah it's not
00:47great that i'm hearing this deshaun watson was better than shador that's not great that doesn't
00:54mean it's over for shador it doesn't mean everything's doomed forever but it's just not
00:58good today i'm open to having to having this change to having this reality change throughout
01:03the year well i think we're gonna have to because even the even the most uh anti-shador person out
01:09there probably looks at and goes yeah we're probably gonna see some shador sanders here this year
01:13probably sooner than later which brings you to another point oh by the way any conversation we have
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01:26with the cavaliers coming up tomorrow but it's a big day obviously for the football team in town which
01:31do we have a lot of those big days and usually they're not very positive however let me ask you
01:36this they're not playing shador on thursday and i asked mike tannenbaum he said well that's a valid
01:42question to ask because i'm going you're saying the reasons that he's not able to play or able to start
01:47is operations deshaun watson knows the offense better knows where people are supposed to go
01:53better okay what helps shador more is it standing on the sidelines or is it actually going into a
02:01huddle and playing and getting the information out and having more experience getting the information
02:07out to players what's going to help shador more probably playing right i think it's bizarre that he's
02:13not playing okay that's what tannenbaum and tannenbaum agreed with me earlier today at 720
02:19you think it's bizarre too which now conspiracies are flying because my first thought was all right
02:24a lot of people think that this is jimmy's call could this and i you and i disagree with that
02:28could
02:29this anthony prove that this is jimmy's call not jimmy's call where and this is conspiracy the total
02:36conspiracy where it's like hey you want to start deshaun watson you're gonna have a lot of fans upset with
02:43us fine but you better not get the guy who they're actually going to want to come see hurt and
02:47maybe
02:48he wouldn't play on thursday to where john heard what i said where i was kind of i'm fishing i'm
02:54throwing it out throwing out of line to see if anything bites on that because conspiracy conspiracy
03:00is tough and it takes me a while to get to these things the other thing that john brought up
03:04making
03:06ended up being a fish that i didn't really want to catch was he goes well you saw some things
03:11that
03:12were good from him against buffalo last week would this preserve any trade scenario for him
03:19and i asked mike tannenbaum that and he said that there would there possibly would be a trade market
03:24for chador sanders now he said because the browns are so not good that they would probably it would
03:29behoove them to just hold on to him and to see what he has considering it's a quarterback league and
03:34they need one and you want to kick the tires on him do you think that that's a possibility
03:40i i not i know you don't think that there's any sort of a market i have to ask the
03:44question
03:45yeah i don't think there's much of a market at all as of today you know it was nice how
03:50he played in
03:50that in that game against buffalo um i did see there was like a film guru guy who we've seen
03:56before and
03:56i know he's been on our station win ted win and he said you know at second second glance the
04:02chador performance wasn't as good as he thought after looking at the film because he was slow on
04:06everything i saw a guy that looked composed and was even on the one third down he went there was
04:13it a fourth down he went through all the progressions and you know landed the completion i thought he
04:18looked really really good even the interception was whatever but i told you and i i see potential
04:23interceptions every time every quarterback plays now so whatever um i'm sure todd monkey might disagree
04:30but i just don't see a market for him right now i don't either and then you know i'm sorry
04:36it just
04:36doesn't help that it the his inner circle is threatening to assault people in the media like
04:41i clean that up yesterday yeah i know but you guys can say that doesn't matter like teams aren't stupid
04:46they know about all this stuff the browns know about it i mean they they were not happy about that
04:51stuff over the weekend well what type of market would i get would i get a seventh rounder for him
04:54if we
04:55were actually going to talk something like that maybe because if it's like well if he's not good
04:58enough to start for a guy that is a pariah to the fan base or a guy and if he's
05:04not just a pariah to
05:05the fan base he's just not good anymore because he hasn't been and he was terrible back on saturday
05:09just awful dreadful every word you could find for not good if he can't beat that guy what am i
05:16going to
05:16give you to bring him in shador and then all the things that you just mentioned because again it's not
05:21just him like even though i think shador has been has i thought he's been great if anything this this
05:26deshaun thing is is hate to say it it's awesome commercial or comparing yes i know everybody's
05:32like oh but but he didn't win okay but the fans are now picking if fans were on the fence
05:38before
05:39they're not on the fence anymore they want shador like at least for this year well they want somebody
05:43they're least interested in yeah you're curious like nobody's curious about deshaun watson
05:49they're curious about shador sanders whether that you think that i'm a cult leader or not
05:54ain't about that it's a curiosity i'm not curious to see deshaun watson whatsoever but i'm asking
06:00about the trade market i don't think that there's any juice for a trademark there's some juice though
06:04with shador every time he's out there i know you're you're you're you're waiting to see is the
06:09catastrophic mistake gonna happen however but that's that's deshaun every snap now let me ask you
06:15another question before i get to these phones if you you don't think the season's going to go
06:20very well no so are you looking for something you're interested in yeah would you in turn be
06:25mad if they traded deshaun or shador sanders i think a lot of people be excited if they were
06:29able to trade deshaun watson would you in turn you know where i'm going would you be mad if they
06:33traded deshaun shador sanders this weekend and they're like well you've left me with nothing
06:37now i've got nothing i'm not jazzed to see dylan gabriel no maybe i can start to get myself going
06:42over
06:42taylor green but i haven't seen taylor green until thursday night against new england and the other
06:47person is a guy that nobody wants to see and that they're putting signs on statues right now in
06:51protest of him playing in the football you're you're you're 100 right if i'm only going to get
06:56a six or seventh round pick honestly i'd rather hold on to him just just to see whether or not
07:00he's got
07:00anything and i you know what i've had some fun with his fan base i know that so that's part
07:07of it
07:07though you know part of it's just some nice sparring and some nice fun on the internet well
07:12some have gotten weird about they're passionate they're loyal and they're at least making a case
07:17i don't even see deshaun watson people making a case anymore no because there is no case you saw
07:22what happened on saturday and that goes to with it as well i didn't go through all this watching you
07:27get into it with people and all the other stuff and i'm like man some of this some of this
07:32is pretty
07:32crazy out here that's just a fan i didn't i don't want to go through all this just to trade
07:37them away for what a seventh round pick that's not going to turn into very much look i i guess
07:42i
07:42could use it as extra capital for what if i give up enough i might be able to get a
07:46six round pick
07:46like that's where you're at meanwhile meanwhile um if we're going to talk about the the people in
07:51chador's corner i can't i kind of mentioned quincy avery who was at the joint practice and was on the
07:57field talking to todd munkin and now he's back on social media bragging about how rich he is for
08:02anybody that comes after him and then he's going after writers that are bringing up any of deshaun
08:06watson's issues like this is this is quincy avery who has real clients in the nfl and he's out there
08:13on social media like people cannot help themselves you're not helping your guy's cause either like
08:18and i don't know have you seen his mechanics get any better like i i have said like even if
08:23quincy avery is really good at his job and there are guys that swear by him like maybe it's not
08:28right
08:29for should up for for deshaun anymore maybe there needs to be a break there i said that a month
08:33ago
08:33like what what is with these guys and their teams like how tone deaf and oblivious are they like i
08:41didn't know that oh yeah i don't father it was all day yesterday i don't follow anybody and this
08:47and this father i don't father him either yeah yeah i got any of these guys learn at some point
08:52like flashing the money you make that doesn't go over well with fans and it never will it never will
08:59it never will it never will i don't know that if you think that makes you feel better but then
09:04you
09:04wonder what are you really projecting if you have to bring up how much money you have all the time
09:07flashing money is in as a sign of insecurity of course it is
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