00:00did Munkin tip his hand about Watson having the edge,
00:04according to Mary Kay?
00:06Did he tip the hand?
00:08Did he show you the cards a little bit at all,
00:10according to Mary Kay tone?
00:12Yeah, it was interesting last night.
00:14I sat down to watch season two of Homeland,
00:18and it's off to a rocky start.
00:20I don't know if I'm going to continue with it,
00:21but I noted it.
00:23I got a bunch of texts about it immediately,
00:27and I'm like, oh, this is interesting
00:30because we've all been looking,
00:31as even Mary Kay put it yesterday when she was on our air,
00:34breadcrumbs.
00:35We're looking at breadcrumbs.
00:36Like two days ago, it was the cadence,
00:39and then that ignited a war between the factions,
00:43this war that's being fought daily on social media.
00:47Well, Shador also drew them offsides,
00:50and then that got into a who drew who offsides more,
00:54or what were the drills, whatever.
00:56I'm annoyed by that.
00:58I'm reaching a new level of annoyance.
01:00Anyway, so.
01:00One week until the first preseason game.
01:02I can't wait.
01:03Yeah.
01:04Well, I thought it was interesting.
01:07Yeah, you know, it is funny.
01:08You said it.
01:09Those preseason games are going to be life and death
01:14to these people.
01:15Guys, if you think that they're going to win six games like I do,
01:18or you think they're going to win seven games like Mary Kay,
01:20or five games like Tone,
01:22this is your Super Bowl.
01:24Because the whole season's about figuring out who the quarterback is.
01:27So preseason game one in Chicago,
01:30and then the rest of the preseason, it's your Super Bowl.
01:34I swear to God, it's okay.
01:36We got to find out who the guy is just to make sure.
01:39Because I got to tell you, if it ends up being Deshaun,
01:43and I don't want to be so ghoulish right now.
01:46Everybody knows who I want to start.
01:47But if it ends up being Deshaun,
01:50we got to have a real serious come-to-Jesus moment
01:53with some of the people who are dropping in,
01:55who are hardcore Shador Sanders fans.
01:57Because I'm going, hey, man,
01:59that's two coaches now who hasn't seen the brilliance of the Savior.
02:03And the only other person who's a head coach
02:05that has seen the brilliance of the Savior is his father.
02:09We have to have a serious conversation about how good the Savior is.
02:13Because they don't want to...
02:15Nobody...
02:16There are people who they will never trust ownership,
02:18and I understand that.
02:19That's fine.
02:20Ownership is meant to be kept further than arm's length.
02:23But there's going to be people who say,
02:24well, they're paying him $230 million.
02:26I go, that doesn't matter.
02:27You know it.
02:27I know it.
02:28Owen knows it.
02:29The guy would throw money in the trash.
02:30He would go out there and throw money
02:32to try to cover up some of the manhole covers
02:34that are seeping water right now
02:36because of all the rain that's coming down.
02:37If it meant he could win one more game.
02:41Money is not an object.
02:42Especially in this year of the contract.
02:44You have two owners in this town.
02:45They do not care about spending money.
02:47They'll spend it.
02:48It doesn't matter.
02:49I do not believe they want to play Deshaun Watson.
02:52They don't want to upset the fans.
02:53They don't want to make fans boo him at home.
02:54They did not come into this offseason.
02:56They did not come into this training camp.
02:59Fingers crossed.
03:00I hope we get something out of Deshaun Watson.
03:02No, that's not what they were looking for.
03:03I know Muck had said they're not rebuilding,
03:05and to some degree,
03:06I know people are going to roll their eyes,
03:07but I think I can understand where he's coming from there
03:10because you can't say that as a head coach.
03:11You're trying to win football games.
03:12If anything, they hoped he played well
03:14so they could showcase him,
03:16which you and I laughed at.
03:17Yeah, there's no chance,
03:19but where there's a will, there's a way, right?
03:22But they didn't want him to emerge
03:24so that he would start,
03:26and then what?
03:27We're at home week three?
03:28I'm telling you this.
03:28So he could go out there to a chorus of boos?
03:31And Lima loves to show me that I'm wrong,
03:33and he's never corrected me once
03:35because he knows it, I know it,
03:37and if you don't,
03:38you really should accept the reality of it.
03:41They do not want to play Deshaun Watson.
03:44They don't want to upset you.
03:46It's a season they're trying to get through
03:48to get to 2027.
03:50They don't want to play the guy.
03:51So if they play the guy,
03:53that means that the savior
03:54didn't end up being the savior.
03:56All right?
03:57Now, he might get his chance,
03:59and you do reserve the right
04:01that when he gets his chance,
04:03because I don't believe very much strongly at all
04:05in Deshaun Watson or his talent
04:07or lack thereof.
04:08That was years ago when he had that.
04:10He may get his chance,
04:11and if he goes out there and he plays better
04:13and gets the Browns going again,
04:16you will reserve every single right
04:18to question Todd Munkin
04:19over what is...
04:21Then it is the Browns' problem.
04:22Then it is a functional,
04:25organizational problem.
04:27But I know going in,
04:29they really don't want
04:33Watson to play,
04:34to start,
04:35to upset the fans
04:36or to risk upsetting the fans.
04:38Maybe some people are like,
04:38you know what?
04:40We're looking forward to 2027.
04:41He's got anything.
04:42He's got something.
04:43Fine.
04:43Go ahead and play him.
04:44Maybe they're like that.
04:44Maybe they're open-minded.
04:46But I think, you know,
04:47you hear about people booing him
04:48at training camp for crying out loud.
04:50Like, it's not a really good vibe, man.
04:52Not really good.
04:53All right.
04:53So you have to have a discussion,
04:55an honest discussion about it.
04:56But we'll find out here starting next week.
04:58All right.
04:58Mary Kay includes.
04:59The significant part about the practice yesterday
05:02is that Watson went first
05:03in two seven-on-seven periods,
05:05and Sanders went second
05:07up until day eight.
05:08The quarterback who served
05:09as quarterback one for the day
05:10has gone first
05:11in almost all the seven-on-sevens
05:12and 11-on-elevens.
05:14The fact that Watson got those extra
05:16first-team reps couldn't signal
05:17he's about to unofficially move
05:19into the QB1 role
05:20and get the bulk
05:21of the starting snaps,
05:23which is obviously
05:24what they are going to be
05:25honing in on
05:26now that installation
05:27has come to a close.
05:30So I ran that.
05:32You know what Mary Kay said?
05:33I ran by a bunch of people.
05:36There were some that agreed.
05:38There were some that were like,
05:39yeah, a little too early to tell
05:41because the way that Dylan Gabriel
05:43was getting in some of the reps, too.
05:46But we'll see.
05:47Either way, we are getting closer, right?
05:49And now the question is,
05:51is that, like,
05:52that first preseason game,
05:54we are looking at...
05:55We're going to get here
05:56at some point, buddy.
05:57We are looking at different things,
06:00obviously, than the coaches are.
06:01Like, for us, for the fans,
06:04when they go to,
06:05is it at Chicago,
06:06that first preseason game, Kenny?
06:08We are going to be at home
06:11and we are going to look at that game
06:13and if one plays well
06:15and one doesn't play well,
06:17we don't care who it's against.
06:18We don't care that the Bears
06:20probably are not going to be
06:21playing their starters.
06:22And then whoever goes second
06:23is probably going to have
06:24an easier run,
06:25although whoever goes second
06:26might not have the offensive line.
06:28Whatever.
06:29You know, you're going to...
06:29We're going to have all that context,
06:30but it goes out the window.
06:31Everybody has an excuse.
06:33It quite literally will be
06:34look at the box score
06:35and who had flashier plays
06:37and that should be
06:37the starting quarterback.
06:39Should we caution everybody
06:40to say that's silly?
06:42I've seen Jake DeLome
06:44ball out in the preseason.
06:47No.
06:48You saw Carson Beck yesterday
06:50ball out in the preseason.
06:51Yes.
06:51You saw Haynes King
06:52ball out in the preseason yesterday.
06:54He had it his way.
06:54And these are...
06:57The Carolina Panthers,
06:58they have their quarterback situation
07:00kind of sort of figured out, I guess.
07:02I mean, you know, it's Bryce Young.
07:04Anybody can play
07:05for the Arizona Cardinals right now,
07:07but you're going to assume
07:08it's Jacoby Brissett
07:09to start the year.
07:09So, I mean, these are two teams
07:10that are kind of set.
07:11But when you have these other players
07:13that are there,
07:14you're going to make arguments.
07:15I mean, that's what happens
07:16when you really don't know...
07:18Carolina's Carolina.
07:19I'm going to leave them out.
07:19But like Arizona,
07:20you're going to make arguments.
07:21You're going to say,
07:21hey, are we sure
07:22we don't want this guy to play?
07:23Are we sure
07:24if we're not going to be
07:25that great this year
07:26and we're trying to figure out
07:27where we're at
07:27in the quarterback conversation,
07:28are we sure
07:29that this guy
07:30doesn't have something?
07:31Like, I guarantee it
07:32if they know what the hell
07:33they're doing,
07:33you have to have
07:34a serious conversation
07:35on the air in Arizona
07:38about the Cardinals
07:39and their future quarterback
07:40and whether or not
07:41they want to start it
07:41with Carson Beck
07:42or Keaton Slovis
07:44or anybody like that.
07:45Haynes King out there,
07:46I don't think
07:47you're going to get much
07:48when it comes to Bryce Young,
07:49but then there's a conversation
07:51that you're going to have
07:52if Bryce Young
07:53goes out there to struggle.
07:54But you have this team now
07:59that Tone
08:01every single day
08:03is a campaign
08:05one way or the other
08:06because there are people
08:07who just revile
08:08Shador Sanders.
08:09I think part of it
08:09is because they get attacked
08:11online for being critical
08:12of he's got some wobblers
08:14out there.
08:15There's been times
08:15he's held onto the ball
08:16too long.
08:17There are,
08:18there have been
08:19some under throws.
08:20I've never denied
08:20any of that stuff.
08:21There's been some
08:22really nice passes,
08:23but there's been
08:23some really nice passes
08:24out of both these guys.
08:25Even Dylan Gabriel,
08:26one didn't land
08:28yet from yesterday.
08:29That was a hell
08:30of an overthrow,
08:30but there's been
08:31some nice ones out there.
08:32That was,
08:33hey,
08:34people are wondering
08:34if he could get
08:35the ball there.
08:36He got the ball there.
08:37He got it there.
08:38It went straight up
08:40in the air.
08:40I think he threw
08:41it to Lee Owens Stadium.
08:42Did the wind
08:42get a hold of it?
08:43Lee Owens Stadium.
08:43Lee Trestle Stadium.
08:44Lee Trestle Field.
08:45Sorry.
08:45Lee Owens is a different coach.
08:47Hold on.
08:48It's coming down.
08:50Hope Lee Owens
08:50is doing well.
08:51Good coach.
08:52Always liked him.
08:53Working with him for,
08:54working for him
08:55for two years,
08:55I should say.
08:58Every day
08:58is a referendum.
09:00Every day
09:00is an argument,
09:01but this is going
09:03to be right there.
09:04You can look at it
09:06and say that
09:07they screwed
09:08over our guy
09:10if you're a fan
09:11of one guy
09:11or the other once.
09:12I just don't think
09:13you could do it twice.
09:14They fired people.
09:15They brought in
09:16new staff.
09:17I just don't think
09:19you can do it again.
09:20This is going to be
09:22next week.
09:24Yeah,
09:24there's going to be
09:24some fights.
09:25There's going to be
09:25some arguments.
09:26I'm sure we'll dust off
09:27some of the other stuff
09:28that might collect
09:28some dust over the weekend,
09:30but damn it.
09:31Like next Saturday,
09:32that's where it really begins.
09:34And if one of these guys
09:36go out and struggle
09:37against the Chicago Bears,
09:38it will be probably
09:39playing base cover too
09:41with a blitz here or there,
09:42but nothing really crazy
09:43just to see what
09:44they got out of a guy.
09:46If one of these guys struggle,
09:47well,
09:47Monday is going to be
09:48one hell of a morning
09:50because one way
09:51or the other,
09:52you're going to get
09:53some very strong conversation.
09:55And if both do well,
09:57well,
09:57then we're going to have
09:58a lot more fun
09:59than what I thought
09:59we were going to have
10:00with some of this stuff.
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