00:00Then he threw the pick, and I said, well, what the hell?
00:02Well, then the next drive, he's going to abandon the pockets.
00:09That's going to be a common theme regardless of who the quarterback is this year.
00:12But he got out of there, and it was a give-up play that he almost got picked off on
00:17again by the same dude
00:18when he threw it low right to him across his body with nothing on it.
00:23And I'm like, oh, no.
00:26He doesn't belong on the football field.
00:28I think we're reverting right back.
00:30I will say he did get more comfortable as the game progressed, but it was over.
00:35Yeah, because the game was out of reach, and he knew there was no pressure on him
00:37to actually go out and win anymore.
00:39See, now I'm going to actually get worked up here is because there's a realization here
00:43because I'm like, oh, I can't do this.
00:45Yes, I can, and yes, I will.
00:47I can't do this.
00:48What can I do?
00:50Sit here and talk about bad quarterbacks?
00:51I've talked about bad quarterbacks before.
00:53What can I do?
00:54Because we're going to do this.
00:55We're going to sit here and talk about this guy like he's a sixth-grade middle school quarterback.
01:00I mean, can we play that clip again?
01:04Can we play that clip again?
01:05I know I'm calling it off the fly here, and you can't just magically dial it up.
01:09Listen to this again.
01:11He let that ball rip that was an interception.
01:13He let it rip.
01:14He just didn't see him, or the defender made a great play on it, right?
01:17I mean, I thought he started the game great.
01:19We had a play action to start the game, and they got depth.
01:22He checked it down.
01:23We got a first down.
01:24We had a second down.
01:25He hit KC, right?
01:27And we get a first down.
01:28We get a nice run at second and five, right?
01:30Let's see if we can push the ball down the field and check it down.
01:33Now, that's going to happen.
01:35We set a high bar around here, don't we?
01:39I mean, listen to that.
01:40Owen, is that not something you'd say to your quarterback in sixth grade?
01:43Yeah, when I'm trying to not kill a guy's day because he's 11 years old.
01:47That is something I'd say to Carter Ski at the end of a football game, and he's a sixth
01:56grader.
01:57I'm dead serious.
01:59And so, I'm going to have to deal with this for the rest of the—well, excuse me.
02:03It ain't me.
02:04We're all going to have to deal with it for the rest of the season.
02:08And it's—to me, and I know, Kenny, are you—how could you be surprised?
02:12How could you be surprised?
02:13I'm not surprised.
02:14It's just—it's sinking in that you're going to feel like your intelligence is insulted,
02:20and to a degree it is, because I'm not talking about an 11-year-old middle school quarterback.
02:25I'm talking about a 30-year-old man.
02:27Oh, is it his birthday today?
02:29Is today his birthday, Owen?
02:31Is today Watson's birthday?
02:33Yeah, yeah.
02:33Happy birthday.
02:34What a wonderful day it is.
02:36Happy birthday to you.
02:38What a wonderful day.
02:39I mean, that's what this is.
02:41Like, don't you get it?
02:42Like, this is a realization of how long this is going to be.
02:45I mean, if you're talking about him in that way, I got to tell you, maybe we should just
02:50wait and see if the other guys can develop later on, because this is just an abomination.
02:55So I've left this game—I was confident in one game only that they would win.
03:00And they didn't just not win that game.
03:01They were blown out and looked uncompetitive while they did so.
03:04So I can never pick them again for the rest of the season, and I won't pick them again for
03:08the rest of the season.
03:08And that's a promise.
03:10But if I look at what the coaching staff was, the defense was terrible, the offense was
03:16bad, the only redeeming thing were rookies, and that's about it.
03:20I mean, this is going to be a slog.
03:22And I know what we got into, but there's going to be a time where there's just a realization
03:26how bad and frustrating it is.
03:28Because I got 16 more of these.
03:32And I know that we reach a point where it just washes over us, and we just move on to
03:37the next one.
03:38But while I still feel passion, I got to let that passion out before I just accept what
03:44my situation is.
03:46And our situation—it's ours, it's not mine—is that, yeah, I know what this season—we know
03:51what this season was all set up for.
03:52But living through it, man, sucks.
03:55This sucks.
03:57Go ahead.
03:58You got anything?
03:59Well, I—you know, I—obviously, they had the operational issues, too, which immediately
04:06everybody was like, wait, you told me he was better with operations.
04:09And it's like, that doesn't—that doesn't give us the best—doesn't exactly give us the
04:15most confidence that the next guy—
04:17Either the other guys are Helen Keller, or the head coach isn't seeing it right, or
04:21they are just a little bit behind, and for the love of God, they need to speed up as soon
04:24as possible.
04:25Because I can't—we can't watch this.
04:27This is just—this is an abomination of everything that comes to professional sports
04:31and to the jersey and everything like that.
04:33And I understand it might not mean a lot to guys who are not from here and who just collected
04:37$230 million and are playing out the string of what was once a promising career and
04:43ended up being basically the greatest cautionary tale in the history of professional sports.
04:48But it does still mean something to some fans, does it not?
04:51Does it not?
04:52Am I speaking to the wall?
04:54Go ahead.
04:55Go ahead, please.
04:56So, obviously, those—the first two drives, the first ends up in a disastrous turnover,
05:01and then when they go three and out on the next one, and it—it—again, it looked
05:05like there was no way that was a functioning offense.
05:07So, you get behind immediately, and then they had zero running game to speak of.
05:11And it's been kind of the age-old question that's developed over the last, really, the
05:17year, but we've seen it in other years, too, with the Browns, is when Deshaun is out there,
05:23is it because there's no depth to an aerial attack?
05:27There's no threat of being able to go down the field, so you're never going to be able
05:32to run the ball.
05:32Like, you could have any—pick any of the best backs in the league, but put Gibbs back there.
05:38Anybody could—you know, Derrick Henry, put anybody back there.
05:43Are you ever going to be able to run the football?
05:45Is Judkins ever going to have a way to do it when he's next to Deshaun Watson?
05:50Because how are you supposed to do it if the linebackers are so keyed in on the area of
05:56the field that he presents no threat to—
05:59I knew I wrote that down.
06:00—to throw the football?
06:01I wrote it down in their second offensive drive.
06:04I wrote, already, I think Jacksonville doesn't respect Watson.
06:07It's right there.
06:08I highlighted it, too.
06:10Second drive.
06:10And who was more surprised when he actually went over the top at the end of the game?
06:14Was it the Browns fans or was it the Jacksonville defense?
06:17Did anybody think that there was a chance in hell he could convert any kind of a—
06:23we didn't see it all camp.
06:25We didn't see it all preseason.
06:28So imagine the thought of anybody involved with the Browns that was like,
06:32well, we didn't even know he could do that.
06:33Well, I mean, he's so brittle.
06:34I wonder how many of those he actually still has left in the chamber.
06:37Just because Todd Munkin's a nice guy doesn't mean that you trust him as a head coach.
06:41Because you can trust Kyle Shanahan as your head coach.
06:43You may not like him personally.
06:44You might not want to have beers with the guy.
06:46But you can trust him as a football coach.
06:49Just because you're a good dude doesn't mean I can trust you.
06:52I got nothing here to trust.
06:54Because this is going to continue.
06:55He ain't going to play no better than this.
06:57He's going to turn it on?
06:59When's he going to turn it on?
07:02Nobody believes that.
07:03So he's just going to keep playing poorly, and they're going to keep marching him out there.
07:07Maybe for one more game and that's it.
07:10But if they do that for one more time, that's it.
07:13Kenny, he'll get replaced at half the next week.
07:14Well, you notice that Todd Munkin did not answer the question yesterday when he was asked.
07:18He did not answer that question yesterday.
07:21Now, he might answer it today because I'm going to make a big damn deal of it.
07:24We're going to play that audio when we come back.
07:27But damn it, he did not answer that question yesterday.
07:30And I got something even worse to say because if already you're thinking about it here,
07:34then how much confidence did you even have him in the first place?
07:37Then what was the point of even doing this in the first place?
07:39If we're already discussing this, if we're already doing this,
07:42this is Romeo Cornell flipping coins all over again.
07:44That's what this is.
07:47And so then you start to lead me to believe things like maybe there was a reason why it
07:51took you until 60 years old to be a head coach in the NFL.
07:54I mean, I hate to say it.
07:56He's a good guy.
07:57But if this is what this is going to be and we're already going to willy-nilly make some
08:00changes here, I got to question what's going on at the top.
08:03Do I not?
08:04I think I have to.
08:06Because I'll tell you what, it was bad yesterday.
08:10Something extremely poetic, depending on how you see things,
08:12something poetic could happen next Sunday.
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