00:00We have some new Larkin audio. Really, it's more about Steve Iserman, but it's the latest on this saga involving
00:08the captain and the captain.
00:10Yeah. Elliot Friedman, 32 Thoughts podcast in the wake of the Brady Kachuk trade. Elliot really started thinking about how
00:18this impacts Steve Iserman.
01:13Okay, so what are you going to get back from Minnesota?
01:18That's what we've been saying all along.
01:21There's a lot of suitors for Dylan Larkin.
01:24No question about that.
01:26How many is he going to be willing to go to?
01:28And of those, what are you getting in return?
01:31Who has the best package that they could put together?
01:35I just think we're at a stalemate.
01:38Like Tom asked me off air, I don't know, about a half hour ago.
01:41He's like, NHL drafts this week too.
01:44Friday.
01:44NBA's tonight, but the NHL's this week.
01:46Do you think he's moved this week?
01:48And I said, no, I don't think Larkin's getting moved this week.
01:53No intel, just reading the tea leaves.
01:55It feels like we're at a stalemate.
01:57If Iserman wouldn't do the Kachuk deal, the equivalent of three firsts.
02:03If there aren't players that can contribute to the NHL roster being offered in deals, and
02:07we don't suspect they will be because those teams are going to be contenders, then it
02:11better be a very high pick this year.
02:14But if he doesn't get moved this week, that ship sails, that ship sails too.
02:17But I don't know that teams are trading high picks this year for Larkin or that those are
02:22destinations Larkin will approve by the end of this week.
02:24It feels like we're at a stalemate.
02:26But if they don't make a deal before the draft, then that means, does that take future assets
02:34off the table as the best thing about the deal?
02:38Yes.
02:39You know what I'm saying?
02:39Yes.
02:40The most appealing pieces could be gone this week.
02:44Is that what you're saying?
02:45Like the picks in this year's draft?
02:46Yeah.
02:47If the best case scenario versus getting an established player, like, you know.
02:52Yeah.
02:52Let's say the established unicorn player is not coming back in a deal, then it behooves
02:56Eisman to get a deal done this week.
02:58And if he doesn't get a deal done this week, it puts him further behind the eight ball.
03:01But I don't think he operates from a position of desperation.
03:04And I think he waits all week and may dig this hole even deeper.
03:10Again, Larkin has to give him destinations beyond the three that we've outlined, or there's
03:17no reason to get a deal done this week, right?
03:19If I'm Eisman, Florida doesn't have a top 10 pick anymore.
03:23Vegas doesn't have a top 10 pick anymore, or never did.
03:27Minnesota doesn't have a top 10 pick.
03:28Those deals are going to be there on Saturday and Sunday, right?
03:33Unless Larkin opens up to a few more teams.
03:36But those teams would have to have top 10 picks.
03:38I just don't think it's happening this week.
03:40I mean, I'm not going to argue with you.
03:42I don't think it does either.
03:43In fact, the longer it goes.
03:47It's very frustrating.
03:48I'm listening to you right now, and the fan is coming out in me big time, and I'm just
03:54so frustrated.
03:55And part of it, I think, is linked, too, to what's happened down in Miami the last couple
03:59days.
03:59I mean, there are teams down there, back-to-back days almost here, traded for Brady, Kachuk,
04:04and Giannis.
04:04And we sit here with our teams and just spin the wheels.
04:10It gets frustrating, man.
04:11It's like, you got to take a chance.
04:14So let me ask you this.
04:15That's why it was so big yesterday when I said the thing about the San Jose thing.
04:19I would take that.
04:21The second overall pick as the starting point with the Larkin to San Jose.
04:26I think it's appealing for the Sharks to kickstart their back into the playoffs quicker
04:31timeline.
04:32Is it appealing to Larkin?
04:35It would be if it was him.
04:37Go play with Macklin Celebrini to take the load off your shoulders as being the 1C.
04:42Path to the playoffs is easier in the West.
04:44Yeah.
04:45It's San Jose.
04:46You're in California.
04:47Some people will love California.
04:48Some people will hate paying the California taxes.
04:50I don't know.
04:50I don't know where Larkin's priorities are.
04:53I have mentioned that the longer this goes, I think even though it's the least possible outcome,
05:00is there a chance that he is still on the roster at the beginning of the season?
05:04Let me ask you this.
05:05Is there a chance that this trade hasn't been consummated, even though maybe it will be before
05:11the regular season, but that it's still in limbo at the start of training camp?
05:16How about I answer it this way?
05:17I think it's more likely he's on the roster game one than he's dealt this week.
05:23I can see that, yeah.
05:25That's probably a 50-50.
05:26I just don't, John, in the end, I just don't see how, I think Iserman hurts himself even
05:31more around the league if he's on the roster.
05:33Oh, I agree, but I don't think Iserman is going to give a damn.
05:37Is Iserman going to give, not give a damn so much that he's going to make him take the
05:41ice without the C?
05:42The rest of the league is watching that.
05:44Well, he doesn't have to do that.
05:45He could leave the C on him.
05:46For a guy that just requested and said, I want out of here?
05:49Yeah.
05:49Yeah, to me, what does that say to the locker room then?
05:52It's like he got this whole web.
05:54Oh, I know.
05:56It's messy.
05:58But if he just defaults to, and I'm not even talking soccer.
06:01Why couldn't he just lie like Kachuk and then just get dealt out of nowhere?
06:05Out of thin air?
06:06Yeah.
06:06Yeah, but if I'm Iserman, I feel like I have a certain degree of job security, right or
06:12wrong.
06:13My number's in the rafters.
06:15I'm going to do this the right way.
06:17I'm not going to rush it.
06:18I'm not going to take just picks.
06:21If you believe what Elliott Friedman says, he wouldn't have done that deal.
06:24I'm going to get the right return.
06:25Larkin's got five years left.
06:27If a deal doesn't get made this week, I'll burrow in even more, dig the hole even deeper
06:32and do it my way.
06:36I don't know.
06:37Start playing Sinatra.
06:39That's some stubbornness right there.
06:42Let's get to Heather with the news.
06:43Let's get to the next.
06:45Let's go.
