00:01triple for riley green who fell a double short of the cycle named an all-star for the third time
00:07over the weekend he deserves it he does deserve it tigers with three all-stars all hitters well
00:14you would have told me that before the season i would have thought 10 over 500 not 10 under 500
00:18probably um and the pitching hasn't been the issue no the starting pitching hasn't been the issue
00:23that's a good good and it goes back to i think i was here with you a few weeks ago
00:27we were debating
00:28what's the most disappointing thing about the team uh the hitting or the bullpen and lately with the
00:34exception of montero gov was all about the bullpen and it turns out you look like you're right i mean
00:40hitting has been a little better in the bullpen except for montero has been really weak did you
00:46say we were debating the offense of the bullpen two weeks ago or two years ago because i feel like
00:50it's been ongoing for two years that's true i know at one point last week they were 15 out of
00:5535 and
00:56save opportunities wow give me five of those yeah and you're five under 500 right now you're
01:01striking distance but i've said my fear is that this team is going to do just enough
01:05to where they don't sell but we know they're not going to double down and buy they didn't buy last
01:10year as a front-running first place squad so they thought they were good enough that's that was the
01:15problem well i i don't know i i really don't know what to make of of this but i do
01:19think we're headed
01:20towards no man's land so it is my fear and i wanted to know from people if it's founded if
01:24it's
01:24unfounded 248-539-9797 good franchises don't let their superstars walk but you can create a bidding
01:32war and really maximize your return with mlb ready talent then i think scott has to trade scoobel it's
01:38unfortunate but it's just the situation we're in do you think the possibility of no next year being a
01:45severely shortened or completely washed away season anyway has anything to do with anything
01:52i would like to think it would because i'm trying to imagine if we were one of these good teams
01:57with
01:57good records right would we be saying stoney i'm not sure we're going to get baseball next year let's
02:02go for it i think that's what we would be saying yeah so so i would think but i don't
02:08know if general
02:08managers and president of baseball ops and other cities generally just kind of tune that out i have no
02:14idea it's fair i mean i think dombrowski's always trying to win the world series he's going to be
02:19in town this week to tom's point put on a showcase for him you get scoobel uh final game before
02:23the
02:24all-star break uh any chance jv gets healthy we give him montero's role and let montero start
02:32jacob and oxford well then you're sitting there trying to fix something that doesn't need fixed
02:38no but if you traded scoobel montero would come to the bull but would come from the bullpen to the
02:43rotation and then although unless they expect joe to be back by the trading deadline yeah did i hear
02:50some reporter you're throwing 100 miles an hour yes all right looking that's not something i'm
02:55counting on but i mean would you rather have joe or verlander you're starting rotation
03:01i think joe yeah well let's say montero could go in your rotation right and both joe and verlander
03:07are options for the bullpen then true but they i still don't understand why they sent their
03:14arguably their second best bullpen de jesus down that's to jesus yes exactly this team man i'm
03:22telling you what i just sit back here and listen you guys and it's like costa nailed it last week
03:28they're bipolar like you're on one side of this and you're saying good and then the negatives are
03:33over here and it's just like a cat chasing its tail yes you're just like like going in a circle
03:39talking in a circle all the time well that's why we can they continue it's like just when you were
03:43ready to kill them after losing three out of four they go win five go five and one against two
03:48playoff teams but you know what's weird rangers they swept at new york they swept at tampa in this
03:53stretch yep i mean this team it's i mean it's a cliche it's baseball oh it's this team it's this
04:00team
04:01but if you follow some of these other teams that are going through similar you know the marlins
04:07the mariners started off horrible now they're back to being good philly goes up and down atlanta was
04:12like going to run away with it now they're you know struggling to you know still lead the division
04:17i mean there's all sorts of crazy stuff to tom's point the bipolar and we're all over chasing our tail
04:23we did get a text that said please don't spend more than 10 minutes on the tigers today so we've
04:27already used our allotted time but is what it is i know we got a lot to do today valigan
04:31talk coming
04:32up at 6 35 he's back and the united states playing monday night football against belgium there's a lot
04:38of confidence in this studio maybe a little too much confidence before we get into it it's a taboo
04:44in the world of hockey but um doesn't stop it from happening the offer sheet phenomenon stony
04:50leo carlson of the anaheim ducks 21 years old former number two overall pick he was taken second
04:58behind bedard right sounds correct i'm not mistaken carlson's a very good hockey player yes the flyers
05:05have offered him an nhl record 18 million dollars a season as a restricted free agent he has accepted
05:12this offer correct which now triggers the offer sheet so for people who aren't up on puck this is how
05:18it
05:18works the flyers to get carlson will have to pay him the 18 million a season and give up four
05:24first round picks in the next four drafts yeah if anaheim declines to match first of all you're talking
05:33about a probable superstar is that too strong for carlson i think that's fair okay so out of those
05:41four picks that philly would have chances are they'd be in the high teens or the high teens the mid
05:4720s
05:48yeah i mean how many of them are going to be as good as carlson probably none of them which
05:52is why
05:53philly does it without batting an eye even though it's the most money a hockey player has ever made
05:57right because things are going to change because in probably years two the caps going up and how else
06:01would they have access to a player this good this young they're taking a swing but it's taboo in
06:07hockey and for a while it wasn't really all that possible because the cap was frozen for three
06:11seasons around covet so there really he couldn't i think if the cap wasn't frozen we would have been at
06:16the at the risk of it happening with cider or raymond oh yeah because eiserman like verbeek is
06:21one of these like hard nose well it's funny you mention get a penny here save a nickel there it's
06:27funny you mention that because everybody around here and rightfully so you know we hear the stories
06:31that eyes have been so difficult to deal with and from agents yada yada players whatever but i saw this
06:37this weekend there was like a poll taken a little while ago i think it was the athletic but i'm
06:42not 100
06:43sure the general manager that is the worst to like play for for all these and verbeek running away
06:49with number one where did verbeek learn his chops eiserman so there's a bunch of little wrinkles
06:54to this stony but i think you had just a very basic question i think actually we all did in
06:58separate
06:58emails ahead of the show but dart is still out there as a restricted free agent shouldn't eiserman do
07:04this rather than be the verbeek be the flyers be the briere yes the wings offer the next four
07:12first round picks to add connor bedard and get their true number one c pay through the nose and do
07:17it
07:17here's the problem yes they should i talked about this on saturday when i was here and i was very
07:21adamant that it should be bedard more realistically i thought fantilly of columbus might be more realistic
07:29but when you look at everything it's almost impossible for the red wings to do it because
07:34they have i believe right now like 18 million dollars available in the cap and that's before
07:39they re-sign evansson correct and there's also the risk someone could do this to them with evansson
07:46exactly so they don't even have the money to make that ridiculous offer stony you know how they could
07:54free up 8.7 million dollars yes trading larkin but again it circles back to he's mismanaged this so
08:00bad right but if you're going to trade larkin you and for for players that aren't going to affect the
08:06salary cap you don't want that either you want real players right the point is he's all mangled up yes
08:11the problem look i'm do these things shake up the hockey world make bedard and then figure it out
08:18later yeah that sounds all great but it's really difficult for them to do cap wise unless they say
08:25all right we'll just leave we won't re-sign evansson well which they're not going to do of course not
08:30no what they need to do is get evansson locked up yesterday yes because someone could offer sheet
08:35evansson as the cap goes up and other teams are sitting on it they could say hey evansson you're
08:39probably worth what do you think he ends up signing for eight eight and a half yeah someone could say
08:43here's ten and a half eyes you choke on it exactly i mean that's that's the world we're living in
08:47as
08:47the taboo was broken and i'm saying why don't you get in while everybody's being messy and get in
08:53on this yeah so you gotta lock up evansson and then fantilly might be more in the price range but
08:59if you could figure out your larkin thing and you had already figured out ahead of time you'd be
09:02better positioned to chase a bedard and i believe columbus has very little cap room so i don't know
09:08what they're gonna can you imagine the wild offering evansson yeah i don't know their cap sheet but
09:14if they could they would after the whole hughes thing and they wouldn't give them up to get
09:18oh you won't give evansson up in the hughes trip we'll get both i'll say this i don't call you
09:22said
09:22about columbus i i don't know how you keep warinski and then you let him walk no you know they
09:29there
09:30has to be some commitment so the blue jackets would probably find a way to match no matter what yes
09:35by the way bedard's looking for 17 million a year and word on the street is is that the red
09:40wings
09:41would have to offer five years and 100 million dollars 20 a year i would do it but they have
09:48to
09:48they have to figure out a way cap wise for they can't even fit it that's the problem i will
09:54say
09:54this i think this offer sheet could be a blessing for the red wings in terms of the value that
10:00dylan
10:01larkin larkin has at his contract of 8.7 a year oh no doubt put that in context uh dylan
10:07larkin makes
10:08what 40 some percent of what carlson's gonna get right and he's at least half the player leo
10:14carlson is i mean you could make an argument that the ducks should just let him walk and they should
10:18come charging for larkin because of the value the verbeek has the eiserman's blood in him yeah but
10:27let's play that game out here for a second i see we're up against it if they offered us
10:33two of the firsts from the flyers right that doesn't really do it for us those are going to
10:38be late first if they offered us three of the first from the flyers they're still late first
10:43and at that point they're chipping in pretty aggressively from what they i mean so what carlson
10:50okay for larkin in a first i don't think they would do that deal so so i really don't think
10:55they're
10:55going to be in the business of doing that bigger bigger deal is is that eiserman slow playing this
11:01larkin's value is more than it was at the beginning agreed because yes his contract is so
11:08desirable considering what the what's changing in the league right now which means eiserman's
11:14probably going to dig in even deeper to get the return he wants all while everybody else is doing
11:19fun things to try to improve their hockey team we just sit here with our arms folded
11:25no and no well if he does be able to pull it off we'll get a real player you know
11:30he'll be right
11:31but with the value of larkin he should be able to get a real player 248-539-9797 balligan's back
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