00:00Can we do it and not call it a competition, or do we have to call it a competition?
00:03It's 100% a competition.
00:05Unless, by the way, you think it's been a sham all along, and I know some people have said that.
00:11Can I clarify something?
00:12I'm getting destroyed, thanks to Joey and Keith, for a clip.
00:16Guys, I'm in the camp.
00:18I'm going by what Daryl said.
00:19Excuse me, I don't want to throw Daryl under the bus.
00:21I'm going by multiple reports.
00:24They said they have both struggled.
00:26Zach is doing the dime, what is it called?
00:28The dimes and the...
00:29Dimes to ducks ratio.
00:31Dimes to ducks ratio, yeah.
00:32I'm going by what's reported.
00:33I was at a different football camp the last three days.
00:36I was watching a totally different group of football players the last three days.
00:41I'm going by the report.
00:42Nobody has their mind made up.
00:44My point that was simply said is that if you're telling me that they're both struggling,
00:50and both guys aren't doing so well,
00:53I don't think it's responsible to just put Shador in there and say,
00:59well, I just want Shador to win the job.
01:01It might satiate me in who I want to see,
01:04but it might not be the most responsible thing for Shador Sanders.
01:09That's my point.
01:11I haven't been there.
01:12I haven't seen it.
01:15So relax.
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01:26Oh, and I am so happy right now.
01:27Go ahead.
01:28Why are you happy?
01:28I am so happy.
01:29Why are you happy?
01:30For the first, I don't know, three years of this show,
01:33I was the bad guy.
01:34Ken was the good guy.
01:35And any time Ken gets to be the bad guy for a little bit,
01:38I have to enjoy it.
01:39I have to enjoy it.
01:40Apparently I'm the bad boy.
01:41Because I don't think Ken deals with it very well.
01:45What do you mean?
01:46Ken, what have you been doing?
01:47What have you been doing the last five minutes?
01:49I don't...
01:49No, I don't deal with it very well.
01:52I'll admit that.
01:52Because I don't set out to piss everybody off.
01:55No, you don't.
01:55No, you do not.
01:56That's the whole thing.
01:57Like, when you guys sit there going,
01:58Cleveland Media this and Cleveland Media that.
02:01Hey, I can't...
02:02I'm not going to sit there and answer for...
02:04Ken has elevated himself above the fray when it comes to that.
02:07No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:08He would never devolve.
02:11Okay, the guy who asked the question yesterday
02:13that Shador Sanders said was divisive,
02:15you think I want looped in with that guy?
02:17No.
02:18Have we played that yet?
02:20Are we laying our cards here on the table?
02:21We have not played that yet.
02:21You think I want to be looped in with that?
02:23You think I want to be looped in with that?
02:25You had a problem with that question?
02:28I thought it was a divisive question, yeah.
02:30Really?
02:31Yes!
02:32Really?
02:32What do you think he was doing by asking that?
02:34Fine, fire the question off.
02:36Oh, boy, we're going to end up in a meet today.
02:38We're going to end up in a meet today.
02:40Exact same question that's been asked in every quarterback competition I've ever heard.
02:44Forget Barry.
02:45Forget all...
02:46No, that was not the same exact question.
02:48No, it wasn't.
02:49Okay.
02:49Wait a minute.
02:50Working out with Deshaun Watson or doing your own thing?
02:53Yeah.
02:53You had a problem with somebody?
02:55You had a problem with him saying that that's a divisive question?
02:58You had a problem with them, if anybody in the media is trying to find out what they're
03:04going to be doing over the next six weeks and how they're going to be handling their
03:07off time?
03:08Especially after Shadour had just said, it's not a competition.
03:11We're all just hanging out.
03:12Yeah.
03:12If they're just hanging out, why can't you ask about that?
03:15Maybe they'll be hanging out in the next five weeks together.
03:19Wait a minute.
03:20So, the person who asked the question, who we can't name the name or we will end up
03:23in a meeting.
03:25The person who asked the question, you're telling me that that guy has not been asked
03:31by Shadour Sanders about negativity before?
03:33Because he has.
03:34And then former quarterbacks have asked him about negativity before.
03:38Which you don't have to be positive all the time.
03:41Play the question.
03:42Go right on ahead.
03:43Do you plan on hosting a workout prior to training camp with teammates or are you going
03:50to attend Deshaun's?
03:51What do you mean attend Deshaun's?
03:53How do you think he's having a workout for teammates in soft form?
03:58I just think that was just a question to try to start something, honestly.
04:01It really isn't.
04:03I think we're a team.
04:04If one of us chooses to do something, we all going to do it together as a team.
04:07It's not no individual thing.
04:09So, that's the thing.
04:09Like, the quarterback room, like, we all connected.
04:11We all cool.
04:12That's the difference.
04:13Like, we all cool.
04:14We all communicate with each other.
04:15Hey, there's nobody's single individual idea because that creates separation with, okay,
04:19now what receiver's going to show up for this guy?
04:21Nah, we all a team.
04:22We all going to come as one.
04:24We all going to get together as one team and get things done.
04:27Because then that's what separate.
04:29That causes separation and just a messed up vibe.
04:33And it's like, that's not really what we own this year.
04:35We own, like, being a great team.
04:37He knows if he says something different that that could end up being a problem.
04:41He wants to be a team member.
04:42Well, he gets...
04:43And he has been...
04:44He gets to clarify that.
04:45That's why you ask the question.
04:47This is why I use...
04:48No, because when you ask, are you doing something by yourself?
04:50Are you going to work out with him?
04:51Well, why is he not working out with him?
04:52Do we have something to hide here?
04:54And he gets to explain that.
04:56And he just did.
04:57And if you ask...
04:57So, what's the problem?
04:58But because there is a history.
04:59If you ask the question, or certainly I ask the question, or some of the other people ask
05:03the question, it may be taken differently by Shador Sanders.
05:06But because that question was asked by that person, it's going to be taken in that way
05:10by him.
05:10Did fans not find it notable which wide receivers were working with which quarterback?
05:15Has that not been very newsworthy throughout?
05:18That has been newsworthy.
05:18We did that with Baker.
05:20We've done that with every quarterback, right?
05:21Yes.
05:21So, why would you have a problem with somebody asking, hey, well, Deshaun's been having these
05:27workouts.
05:28Are you going to be a part of that?
05:29Are you going to be doing your own thing?
05:31What is...
05:31Isn't that something fans want to know?
05:33Don't fans find that to be interesting and information that they file away?
05:39But again, I brought up the history.
05:41Oh, so you're just saying it's him asking the question.
05:43If I asked that question, if I were there, which I wasn't, if I asked that question, how
05:49is it taken?
05:51And probably not the way he just said it, okay?
05:53If Owen goes there and asks that question, okay?
05:56Or if Daryl asks that question, I mean, Daryl's not a divisive person, but you say I have a
06:01problem.
06:01Yeah.
06:02Yeah.
06:03Because I'm like, of all the things I am, and I am a lot of things, I am not negative.
06:10I want them to win.
06:11When they don't win, I get mad.
06:15But I don't set out for them to, oh my God, yeah, they're going to suck.
06:18And that's going to be great.
06:19Guys, we're not allowed to talk about ratings on the air.
06:22I wish I could, but I can tell you this much.
06:25When they were really, really bad, we have told people this before, when back in 16 and
06:2917, it was the lowest numbers we ever had.
06:33Why?
06:33Because they were 1 in 31.
06:35People didn't want to hear about them.
06:37So why on earth would I set out business-wise and my own well-being for them to be bad
06:43and
06:43have all this dissension in the ranks?
06:45Yeah.
06:46I just think in general, and I praised Chidor for how he handled the other question.
06:52I think this is like the third time that he has kind of jumped the gun on assuming the
06:58worst.
06:59He does again.
07:00And I don't...
07:02How many times do I jump the gun on you when I think that you're going to set me up
07:05for
07:05failure?
07:05Or set me up to look like an idiot?
07:07Because you'd lay traps for me all the time.
07:09You probably are now.
07:10I think this is where he should be very thankful he's not in New York or Philly because he
07:15would get 30 more of these every single press conference than he's getting in Cleveland.
07:20I think the Cleveland media has been pretty graceful to his situation.
07:25There's a lot of guys rooting for him.
07:26I mean, he has outright cheerleaders in the media too here.
07:29So, I mean, that's not happening in New York.
07:32The flat out doesn't...
07:33Unless you're good.
07:33I mean, unless you're really, really good.
07:35But he's obviously in a competition.
07:36He was a fifth-round pick.
07:37So, I think he should be very thankful the type of questions and the exposure he's been
07:43getting here.
07:44Okay.
07:452-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
07:47I don't know if he should be just thankful for the exposure.
07:49I mean, there's some guys with pom-poms at these things.
07:51But, Tone, you understand he does...
07:52I mean, some of these guys...
07:53They've made it their whole identity to cater to the Shador fans.
07:56I'm not trying to be that way.
07:58I'm just trying to be a little bit more understanding to this because we've talked about this before
08:01and you've agreed with me on this before.
08:03You know, they come from areas where, at Colorado, you had no success whatsoever and then you
08:09have great success.
08:10People are going to be pretty damn nice to you if you've had some success.
08:12And they did.
08:13It's the same thing down at Ohio State.
08:15How many people are really trying to stick it to the Buckeyes players down there?
08:18Nobody.
08:19And then they get into this area and they can't believe...
08:22Like, they go, good God almighty.
08:23Some people...
08:24Yeah, some people got a little bit of a burr on their ass in some of the cities because
08:28they're going to a situation...
08:29I've heard from them.
08:30...where they haven't been great.
08:31And I do think that our media, if I am talking about the media now, I do think our media
08:35has
08:36been nicer than a lot of other places they could be.
08:38That, I'll go halfway with you on that.
08:41But again, when there's a history there, when you've been told that certain, certain people
08:45out there are going to try to do it, and I brought it over myself, how many times do
08:48I overreact to something you're saying because of so many times before you've tried to set
08:53a trap for me to make me look like an idiot in our arguments?
08:571,000?
08:581,010?
09:00So many times.
09:01So I don't necessarily blame him for that reaction.
09:05Just like if it doesn't work out with him, the next quarterback is probably going to have
09:08a preconceived notion about that guy.
09:10Yeah.
09:11It all started...
09:11Hey, Baker was really nice at first.
09:14And then, you know, it just took a few years of losing.
09:16There you go.
09:182-1-6-4-7-4-0-92.
09:20So what is the...
09:21I'm telling people to call.
09:23I'll get to you guys.
09:23I'm going to get to Mary Kay at 820.
09:25So what is it?
09:25Is it a knock?
09:26Are you knocking on me for being sensitive to this?
09:29I think that's...
09:30If I got to tell people bad news, I'll tell people bad news.
09:33But I'm pointing out the whole point of them saying if they're going to be bad, then I
09:38don't want to go with the guy who's younger because I don't think that's putting them
09:42in the right spot.
09:43But at no point why I'm upset about it, at no point did it come out of my mouth that
09:50they've been bad.
09:52I don't know if they've been bad.
09:53I haven't seen them be bad.
09:55I'm responding to the reports of them being bad.
09:59That's what I'm responding to.
10:02I don't go out of my way to get everybody in Cleveland all pissed off.
10:05I just don't like that.
10:07It's never been my thing in 15 years.
10:09Ken does not like it.
10:11I can speak firsthand.
10:12Well, if I think it's better for everybody, yeah, I'll tell people bad news.
10:15But I'm not trying to make everybody's warning worse by saying nasty things to get the,
10:19oh, I like my interaction.
10:21No, because of that, the hell are you talking about?
10:26You done?
10:27Yeah.
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