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00:00Did Deshaun Watson tip off that he already knows who won the quarterback job?
00:04I'm serious. I'm very serious about that.
00:08He might have tipped you off yesterday.
00:10It's the first time you heard from him in 20 months, which as Lyman always said, and Lyman was right,
00:15no matter the sport, no matter the city, no matter the team,
00:19when it comes to post-practice press conferences, you will always hear a truck backing up.
00:23We had a trifecta yesterday.
00:25There was rain during Deshaun Watson's press conference as well as lawn machinery and a truck backing up.
00:32First time in 20 months, it's all going to happen.
00:34It doesn't matter.
00:35You could be a Barcelona.
00:37You're going to hear a truck backing up at a post-practice press conference.
00:40It's impossible not.
00:41Next time there will be a marching band.
00:42Yes. Anything at all.
00:45When it comes to baseball, when it comes to baseball, post-game there's always dishes being thrown around somewhere,
00:50music in the background if it's in a clubhouse.
00:52There's always something in the background to take away from it.
00:55One-man band.
00:58Joel Batonio was great with us.
00:59I did like the answer about the rotation.
01:02I brought up with you guys last year.
01:04That was one of the things I could not stand.
01:08Guys, yeah, I like Kevin.
01:10Lyman likes me, and I like Lyman.
01:12You think we don't sit there and criticize each other?
01:14We criticize each other behind each other's backs,
01:16and we certainly have no problem doing it toward each other's faces.
01:18So, yeah, he's the head coach of my favorite football team,
01:20or he was the head coach of my favorite football team.
01:22I was going to be critical of that.
01:23I thought he handled the offensive line like garbage last year.
01:26I thought it was ridiculous, and if I were a Falcon fan, I'd be looking at that very closely,
01:29because I hated that.
01:30And when Joel said what he said about, well, you can't just with an offensive line, you know,
01:34you got a defensive lineman out there, 15, 20 snaps, you can rotate it.
01:38When it comes to an offensive lineman, he's like, you can't just really do that.
01:41I go, exactly right.
01:42They don't do that.
01:43As Joel had said in the interview with us just moments ago.
01:47And the hard part is, like, you see these D linemen that play, like, 20 years,
01:50and by the end of their career, they're going to play, like, 20 snaps a game.
01:53But if you're an offensive lineman and you want to be a guy, a starter,
01:56like, you're still playing 60 to 70 snaps a game.
01:58There's never any time you can just be like, all right, I'm going to rotate out for a series here
02:02or there.
02:02So I could never just be fully committed again, and that was kind of the decision.
02:07Yeah, to do that was asinine last year,
02:09and I thought it was an indication of what they really thought of the quarterbacks
02:11because you wouldn't do that in front of Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes,
02:14no matter where they were in their careers.
02:16You wouldn't have done that in front of Baker Mayfield in his career
02:19unless you absolutely had to because you were forced to because of injuries
02:22and the backups weren't that good, but the guy who was starting was good enough
02:25to go for at least a little bit of time.
02:27But that dead horse is beaten to death.
02:28I hope everybody knows about that, so we move right on.
02:32Neither quarterback have been good.
02:34Neither quarterback have been good, according to a lot of the pundits who've been there.
02:41Shador Sanders was asked a question about it.
02:43I like the answer, even though it raised a lot of meaty eyebrows.
02:46I like the answer about this quarterback competition where he considers it just practice.
02:52I think the way how y'all look at things is different than how we look at things.
02:55We look at coming to practice every day being the best player we can be as an individual.
03:00And as a good teammate.
03:02Y'all look at it as like a competition.
03:04It's like I don't really, that's not really nothing I'm just focused on.
03:07I'm focused on developing as a player, like doing everything, getting as comfortable as I can
03:12in the offense, in the scheme, and playing with that confidence I had.
03:16So I think that's all I'm really looking for and trying to improve every day,
03:20whether it's mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually.
03:24See, like, I'm just trying to be a better person every day.
03:27And wherever that falls into place, he'll fall into place.
03:30You have J.J. McCarthy up there in Minnesota, who's meaner than a rattlesnake when it comes
03:34to this conversation about him competing with Kyler Murray.
03:38And he's been downright nasty, it seems, to the media about the competition with Kyler Murray.
03:42See, there's a difference here.
03:44Because I know that some of the people get on and go, well, here goes Ken making excuses
03:47for Shador.
03:48Of course it's a competition.
03:49What do you mean?
03:49You don't want to compete?
03:50No, no, no, no.
03:51You've got to remember.
03:53Deshaun Watson, it was out of sight, out of mind for us last year.
03:56He was not really around it.
03:58For him, we had had Mary Kay write about it.
04:01Multiple people wrote about it.
04:02He's in the locker room.
04:04He's traveling with the team now.
04:06He's working with Shador.
04:09He knew he wasn't going to play at all last year.
04:11He was working with Shador, helping Shador.
04:14Shador's not just going to turn that off.
04:16Yes, it is.
04:17I know what he's saying, and I know that we look at it and go, hey, only one can play
04:22the position, friend.
04:23Only one.
04:23There's only one quarterback out there.
04:25So it's either you or him.
04:26So it's a competition.
04:27It's pro football.
04:28But for him, I don't think he sees it that way.
04:30I think he sees him as a buddy, a teammate, a guy who helped him last year as best he
04:35could,
04:36and that he's not going to sit there and turn this all of a sudden into something nasty
04:40if he can help it.
04:41J.J. McCarthy, he didn't know Kyler Murray before all this.
04:44J.J. McCarthy's been there for two years.
04:46Two years or three years?
04:47Two years going into year three, and they've brought in Kyler Murray, and he's mad about
04:52all this stuff.
04:53That's a competition.
04:54That's nasty.
04:55Guys who you bring in, that can be nasty.
05:00Shador has a relationship with this guy.
05:02So I can't, I can understand where he's saying, yeah, you guys call it a competition for us
05:08as practice.
05:09But for Daryl and a lot of other people, like Zach's been on the station.
05:12Daryl's been on the station.
05:14Petrack's been on the station.
05:15All of the people who've been there.
05:16Mary Kay, she's coming on again today at 820.
05:18And they've said, well, you know, neither quarterback has really stood out, and maybe
05:23Shador has gotten himself back into the mix here because Deshaun Watson has struggled
05:26so much, even though I think Deshaun might have tipped his hand on some things coming up,
05:30and we'll play that at 722.
05:32And my first thought was, man, if they're both bad, just play the kid.
05:35Just play Shador.
05:37Is that putting him in the best spot?
05:40I want Shador to know the offense as best as possible.
05:43It's never going to be perfect.
05:45I want Shador to be in the best position possible for this because it is easier.
05:52We talked about this a few weeks ago.
05:54It's easier to go from the veteran to the young guy in a season than it is to go from
05:58the young guy to the veteran because it's going to be very, very hard unless there's an
06:02injury to go back to the young guy.
06:05So if they're both struggling, I actually think if I didn't care about Shador Sanders
06:12and some people don't, they just go, you know what?
06:14I don't want to see Deshaun or I just want to be entertained.
06:16Just put him out there.
06:17Fair.
06:18But if I care about trying to develop any sort of a quarterback, we can't be so hung up
06:23on it.
06:23I'm going to make a lot of the Shador fans upset.
06:25You can't just be so hung up on he has to be the starter week one.
06:28He has to be the starter week one.
06:30You can get to week one and say Deshaun's the starter and have the best interest
06:34of Shador in mind.
06:36There's been a lot of change in a short period of time.
06:39And remember, they did not prepare him for the season last year.
06:43So he's still playing catch up here.
06:45You got him caught up as best you could with the offense.
06:48He got caught up as best he could with the offense.
06:50Then you're changing the offense and changing the coaching staff around on.
06:54It's continuously trying to catch up with everything.
06:57And if neither of them have been very good, now in my own eyes, we'll get to see it.
07:01But if neither of them have been very good, I'd rather take care of Shador instead of,
07:07well, throw him out there.
07:08Why?
07:08I demand to be entertained.
07:09We ain't going anywhere anyway, so I might as well be entertained and I don't like talking
07:12about Deshaun Watson.
07:15That's, I know in my heart that's not right of me to say.
07:17Well, I think what he said was, to me, very, very healthy response.
07:22Like, I had no problem with the way he answered that question at all.
07:25I don't know how anybody would.
07:27Like, did you want him to come out and just sound like, you know, vicious competitor right
07:34now at this stage?
07:34Maybe when we get into training camp, maybe it's different.
07:37If it's a legitimate competition.
07:38Oh, if there's some sort of a falling out or anything like that, I have no idea.
07:41Well, no, no.
07:42I'm not saying that.
07:43I'm saying once we get closer, this is still OTAs.
07:45They're not even wearing pads.
07:46They're not even really facing a pass rush.
07:49It's not like we've got the joint practices going yet.
07:52You know, when that happens, like, I need my guys to start envisioning themselves as
07:57a starting quarterback.
07:58That's how that works.
07:59Right now, we're still so far from it.
08:01What, they have how many weeks off after this?
08:04Five, six weeks?
08:05Somewhere in there.
08:05Five and a half.
08:06So this is very different.
08:07I thought that was healthy.
08:09I think if you're going nuts right now, like, I know there'll be some people say, I want
08:13my guy to be a competitor.
08:14Well, we don't really know what's in Shador's heart.
08:17I think he said the right thing for that occasion.
08:22Yeah.
08:23Obviously, we know the people that are around him that are tweeting every day and live on
08:29social media.
08:29They think it's a competition, and they are making it a competition, and they are doing
08:33everything they can to denigrate every last throw of Deshaun Watson's and prop up every
08:38single moment of Shador.
08:41That's not him.
08:43Now, I'm assuming they're working independent of him, and so I thought what I heard yesterday
08:48was great.
08:49He had another comment where he, I think he was a little preemptive and a little quick
08:53on the draw going after the media.
08:55We'll get to that.
08:55But what I heard there was totally fine and, to me, healthy.
08:59If they both struggle, who should start?
09:03You know, I've said all along that the tie should go to Shador just because he's younger.
09:08But in the same, I don't want to make it sound like I can talk out both sides of my
09:11mouth.
09:11I've also said, like, and be consistent that I think it would be better for Shador to come
09:15off the bench with the new starting offensive line.
09:19such a young, stable of weapons.
09:22Like, they're probably going to look worse at the start of the year than they will at
09:26the end of the year.
09:27Further along.
09:27Yeah, that's true.
09:28So I think it would be healthier for Shador to come off the bench.
09:31I know nobody wants to hear that because they want the Jackson Dart story from last year.
09:36Like, they want, oh, hit the ground running.
09:39But he didn't start at the beginning of last year.
09:41So, you know, his coach obviously got canned and his weapons got injured.
09:46But I think they want, like, the people in his corner, they want him to just be the starter
09:54because they never think he's going to relinquish yet.
09:56No.
09:57You and I have seen enough Browns football and bad teams where we just assume he would
10:00relinquish yet.
10:01And once he gives up that job, because if he were to struggle, once he gives up that job,
10:05again, it's so hard to go back.
10:08And you can go back.
10:10Heck, you can do it, but I think it makes it harder.
10:12I think it's easier considering the change that's been done if I hear there.
10:16But, like, I will be honest.
10:18When I hear about Deshaun struggling, I go, good.
10:20I want Shador to be the guy.
10:22I want Shador to be.
10:23That's my first visceral reaction.
10:24Not a good reaction.
10:25I understand that.
10:26But that's my first.
10:27Well, you want him to seize it.
10:28My first reaction.
10:29But I, exactly.
10:30I want him to take it.
10:32Not just get it by default because, well, you know, he's a younger guy and they're both
10:36struggling.
10:37That's not what I want.
10:38Does anybody disagree with us?
10:40Deshaun Watson talking about his headspace.
10:42First time we've heard from him in 20 months.
10:44What'd you think?
10:45Thought it was fine.
10:48I had no big nastiness.
10:52No anger.
10:53No vitriol.
10:54No happiness.
10:56There was one little thing, though, that I thought that he might have given away there.
11:00Here's Deshaun Watson.
11:02And I want to know if you picked up the same thing.
11:06Some internal conversations about Deshaun.
11:09I know you said that you didn't have any doubts in your mind that, oh, you're worried about
11:14never playing again.
11:15But I guess, were there any doubts about if you would get another chance in Cleveland
11:19to be the starting quarterback?
11:21Um, no.
11:23And that's just from internal conversations.
11:26Did he just tell people he's going to start this year?
11:30Well, I didn't say week one.
11:32I just, I mean, we'll find out.
11:33But maybe he did say week one there.
11:36What do you think he meant by that?
11:38Internal conversations.
11:39See, that's the thing.
11:39I mean, it is so damn vague.
11:41It is vague.
11:42The way he used it there.
11:43And we got plenty of time to chew the fat.
11:45I know.
11:45A lot of people just jumped to, did they tell him he was going to start?
11:48And I just can't picture a world where it would make sense to tell him he would start.
11:53He was saying he has the chance to start is what he was trying to say.
11:56We could play it again if you want to.
11:58Yeah, play it again.
11:58We'll get that lined up just here in a second.
12:00Okay, here we go.
12:01Hit it.
12:01You said that you didn't have any doubts in your mind that, oh, you're worried about
12:06never playing again.
12:07But I guess, were there any doubts about if you would get another chance in Cleveland
12:11to be the starting quarterback?
12:13Um, no.
12:15And that's just from internal conversations.
12:18Never a doubt.
12:19See, it's so weird because what we do know is Jimmy Haslam, you know,
12:23has been on record talking about, you know, what a disaster the trade was.
12:28And obviously, we know they took down all the signs.
12:30He was asked about that yesterday, too.
12:32Here's his answer to the swing and miss from Haslam.
12:35I mean, the relationship is great.
12:37I mean, D, Jimmy, they're at my wedding.
12:40We talk all the time.
12:41He calls me whenever.
12:42You know, it happens and things like that.
12:45You know, one of my favorite baseball players that I've been watching is Bryce Harper.
12:48Sometimes he swings, but he stands back up and he gets an opportunity and he hits
12:52his own run.
12:52So you never know what the opportunity might show up.
12:55And that's what I have right now.
12:56Was it ironic at all that there was a truck backing up and was making the beat while he
13:00was talking about something that Jimmy Haslam said a while ago and how he might end up being
13:04the starter now this year?
13:05Just pointing that out.
13:06Might have to walk it back.
13:08So I didn't take it as he's been guaranteed anything.
13:11I think it's exactly what it is.
13:13The opportunity.
13:14He's got the chance to start again.
13:16And look at the quarterback room.
13:18Why wouldn't he have the chance to start again?
13:21It's not like he's not competing with Josh Allen here.
13:23He's not competing with Patrick Mahomes.
13:25He's not competing with Caleb Williams.
13:27Like Nate, start naming quarterbacks.
13:29Like it's it's should or who was a fifth round pick and who struggled big time last year,
13:35even though he showed signs.
13:35But like, of course, he's going to get the opportunity.
13:38But where do you think he's hearing that from?
13:39Because, you know, he's talking to Todd every day.
13:41You assume he's talking to Andrew quite, quite often.
13:44And we've heard from, you know, Miles and now Joel saying that they talk to Andrew a ton.
13:49Right.
13:49But he just came out and said, I talk to the owner all the time.
13:53We text all the time.
13:54He came to my wedding.
13:55I think he talks to all three.
13:56I think he talks to all three.
13:57Is he getting that confidence from all three?
13:59Because to get it from the owner is one thing.
14:01And, yeah, that's the big backing.
14:03But at some point, if the head coach could just be like, hey, it's a competition.
14:08We'll see.
14:09If the owner's telling you, you're going to get in there.
14:11Don't worry about it.
14:12I can go back to the phone.
14:13I told you that when they hired Todd, one of the first things we got, we go over the shows.
14:17The first text we were getting is that he likes Watson.
14:21I don't think he got the job because he likes Watson.
14:24But he likes Watson.
14:25He's going to try to make something of him.
14:26That was the first thing that we got texted.
14:28Two segments ago, you said, oh, you don't think Taylon Green's going to get in?
14:33That's probably where the confidence stems from.
14:35Look at the quarterback room.
14:37He knows.
14:38He, in his mind, and this is how anybody would feel if they've been really good at something.
14:44In his mind, he still thinks he has a chance to be a top five quarterback in the NFL.
14:48Well, and Anthony, you've brought up the guys you're talking to that are out there every day.
14:51His athleticism seems to be back.
14:54So, given that, like, even he probably assumes, yeah, I'll just, I'll work on the mechanics.
14:59I'll get that back.
15:00We've got plenty of time to get everything back in gear because he's talked about his shoulder and, you know,
15:05it's not been close to 100% in a long time.
15:08And now it kind of seems like he's saying, now, he did admit, too, he's not the exact same player
15:13he was.
15:13So, I thought that was, I honestly, just if we're talking, I know so many of you have just turned
15:18the page on Watson, so you don't care.
15:20But you do have to have, there's, like, delusion that you have to have to play in the NFL, but
15:25you can't also, at the same time, be completely unhinged on it.
15:30And he did admit he's not the same player he was.
15:33That's probably important for him.
15:34That probably mentally is important.
15:38You can't just go out there thinking you're the exact same guy or that'll mess with you, that'll mess with
15:44your brain in so many ways.
15:45Well, physically things have changed so much.
15:46I think that's a great point because physically things have changed so much for him.
15:49I think mentally the game has changed.
15:50I mean, he says he's an introvert now, so he's clearly had to change the type of person he is.
15:54I mean, for the love of God, I mean, let's be honest, I don't think that there's been a lot
15:57of people very happy to see him show up in the area, out there, everywhere.
16:03He says he's had to be an introvert.
16:05So, yeah, I think he's probably had to make a lot of changes.
16:08He was a pariah.
16:10There were country clubs that wouldn't take his money.
16:12Think about that.
16:13A guy that had everything thrown at him, whatever he wanted at any time, to his detriment, he could make
16:20anything happen.
16:22He was maybe going to be one of the faces of the NFL.
16:25And then you're a pariah.
16:28Think about mentally, and he did it to himself.
16:31So let's be clear.
16:32He's not a victim in this.
16:35But imagine that.
16:36Just go from having everything at your disposal to nothing at your disposal, and you don't even have the gifts
16:43that you once had that you thought you'd have for life.
16:46That has to be taxing on you mentally.
16:50Again, we have the clip going on.
16:51And I said, if they're both going to struggle, you know, let's – I would always like to say the
16:57tie goes to Shador, but I don't believe that in my heart to be the right way to take care
17:01of it.
17:01But you just said it right there.
17:02I mean, let's call it what it is.
17:04People say, well, you're freaking out over one practice.
17:05No, I'm not freaking out over anything.
17:07I'm looking at this where every single beat reporter has told us, and every single person who's been a deserver
17:13of practice has said, yeah, there's been some – a couple of good days, but there's been a lot of
17:17not-so-good days for both of these guys that we're considering the two competitors for the starter.
17:22But you have Deshaun Watson, who now has to change the type of quarterback he is.
17:26He just admitted it right there, as you just said.
17:29And then you've got Shador Sanders having to do all the things that I just explained to everybody in the
17:33last segment, where you went from behind the eight ball last year to now you've fired that coaching staff.
17:38You've fired that coach.
17:39You're putting in a new offense with a new coach and a new system, and you have to do that
17:44in a relatively short amount of time.
17:45Oh, and you have to compete.
17:46I mean, these are two quarterbacks that are finding out exactly who they are.
17:50I think Deshaun Watson has to re-center himself and figure out a new type of him.
17:56And for Shador, I think a lot of things are probably just spinning going, how could they not?
18:01You've had so many different things you've had to deal with here.
18:03And furthermore, for Shador.
18:03Two quarterbacks that are not in a great spot right now.
18:05When's the last time Shador had to compete?
18:09When's the last time in his life he's actually had competition?
18:13I mean, he's been better than Jackson State.
18:16It was easily he was the number one.
18:19Colorado, probably Trinity High School down there is what it was.
18:24That's rewind.
18:24Yeah.
18:25The Texas one, not the one down the road.
18:28In high school, it was probably the last time he had to compete.
18:30Because it's just been like, hey, you're the best guy.
18:32You go out and you play it.
18:34So now your competition is against the defenses you play.
18:37For all we know, this could be the first competition.
18:39I don't know what he was coming in as a freshman.
18:41I think it's probably, his dad was his offensive coordinator in high school too.
18:45So.
18:46So.
18:46I don't know that he had to compete that much for that, really.
18:50So this might be his first internal competition.
18:52Yeah.
18:53I think it goes without saying that that's a distinct possibility.
18:56I think that's why we heard the whole, we're just practicing thing.
19:00Because this is the first time that he's ever been in anything like that.
19:03I think there was more that, I think he's friends with Deshaun.
19:06Oh, I think he's friends with Deshaun.
19:08And I think maybe Deshaun is friendly with him.
19:12Well, clearly he wants to get his job.
19:14One of those guys is an NFL professional that's been that for quite a long time.
19:17The other guy's been around locker rooms his whole life.
19:19He's not had to go out and be that NFL professional.
19:23Think of this too.
19:24Wouldn't this be Deshaun's first competition?
19:26Well, no.
19:26Since when?
19:27College?
19:27Since early Clemson?
19:28When he arrived at Clemson, he was not the starter.
19:30There was a starter.
19:32Who the hell was that?
19:33That'd be a hell of a trivia question.
19:33He did not start his first in the NFL when he first got to the NFL.
19:37Yeah.
19:38And then at halftime, he made a change.
19:40Yeah.
19:42But that's why it's been different.
19:45It's been a different experience for Shador.
19:47For both of them, honestly.
19:48And so, yeah.
19:49You know, I'm telling you, like I said, I thought Shador's response was very healthy.
19:52I think if he's going to get serious about being the starting quarterback of the Browns,
19:57I think it doesn't have to be nasty.
19:58Don't get me wrong.
20:00It doesn't need to go in that direction.
20:03I expect to see a little bit more of a different competitor demeanor once training camp starts.
20:11Because now everything, remember, Todd Munkin's got to be observing everything.
20:15And we know a quarterback has to act differently.
20:18They can't be the friendliest guy on the team with everybody.
20:23You can't be trying to win a popularity contest.
20:25To be a quarterback, you've got to piss some people off.
20:28Like, that's part of it.
20:29Because you're supposed to know what's better.
20:30It's not about being happy with everybody.
20:32It's about leading them forward.
20:33And there are times you've got to chew somebody's head off.
20:35I don't know that Shador's ever had to do that.
20:37You know, I don't know.
20:39Maybe the people of Colorado who've been watching him closer can tell me and give me examples.
20:42But now you're at a professional level, and you're not, you know, it's not like Shador's the highest paid guy
20:48on the team or anything.
20:49So you've got to start to exude it.
20:51Because it's not just going to be, oh, he's the quarterback, he's the leader.
20:53No, you've got to exude all that stuff and walk and talk like a quarterback.
20:59And I'll be, honestly, I'll be very interested to see, you know, how he handles that.
21:03Because he's been such a popular guy.
21:05The quarterback is not always the most popular.
21:07Russell Wilson was not always the most popular guy in a locker room.
21:10In fact, people hated his guts.
21:13But sometimes leaders are hated.
21:15I hate, you know, who hates Shador?
21:17I don't think he's a great, I don't think he's a great example.
21:19I would, I would use one of the better ones that are out there.
21:21Well, Tom Brady.
21:22I think it's been proven here over the last few years.
21:25Tom Brady wasn't the most popular guy in every locker room.
21:26There you go.
21:27There were some people that hated his guts.
21:28That's perfectly said.
21:29Because I think there's a lot of guys where.
21:32Aaron Rodgers.
21:32Like, we could do this.
21:34Much better.
21:34You don't, it doesn't have to be a popularity contest.
21:36I think Richard Sherman's side so much on that one.
21:38I don't want to bog you down there.
21:40I'm sorry.
21:40I know what you're trying to do.
21:41All I'm saying is, everything I see out of Shador, he's so, he's such like an inspirational
21:46figure.
21:47Like, every time I see him, I'm like, oh my God, if this football thing doesn't pan out,
21:53tomorrow he could do so many different avenues of showing, you know.
21:59He exudes positivity.
22:01Yes.
22:01Well, all that said.
22:01Yeah, kind of like Tim Tebow.
22:03Honestly, he's been compared to Tebow before.
22:04All that pointed out that if they're both struggling, I'm just going to assume that Shador's eventually
22:09going to get the job.
22:10If they're both struggling, then I'd rather him just have a little bit more time then.
22:15I don't think that much is going to be done, and I do think it's a waste of time with
22:18Deshaun
22:19Watson out there.
22:20The only way it's not a waste of time with Deshaun Watson out there is if it gives Shador
22:25more time to get ready to show what he can do so we can make ourselves an informed decision
22:30getting ready for next offseason.
22:32That's what I think it's about.
22:34Because if they're both struggling, I just don't think it's very responsible to take the
22:38younger guy out there who's had to deal with all these different things and put him out
22:42there week one and say, hey, go save our, go, go, not win, save our season, go win and
22:46go change and go change the culture of this franchise right now and do it.
22:49Because if you would have done that, you would have just handed him the job, and that's the
22:53way it would have been.
22:54Instead, you're in a competition.
22:55So if you're in a competition, quote unquote, I'm still going to want to do what's best
22:59for him and best for the overall franchise.
23:02So if Deshaun Watson just goes out there and he is horrific throughout training camp, then
23:06yeah, I guess I got to do what I got to do, and I'll play Shador Sanders.
23:09But if it's close and they're both, you know, they got the grip, but they don't, and there's
23:13a couple things here we got to do differently because they might be both behind.
23:17I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to let Deshaun take the brunt of that beating.
23:23Coming up at the beginning of the season.
23:25Remember, we're only looking at the cut-ups and the throws.
23:28Being a quarterback is more than that.
23:30That's important.
23:31You've got to be able to do that stuff.
23:33But it's also being able to take the coaching.
23:36Like, how is that being handled?
23:37Like yesterday, Todd Munkin, I guess he completely lost his voice screaming at Shador to start
23:44practice yesterday and didn't have his voice the rest of the rest of the rest.
23:46Like, what is he screaming about?
23:48We know Shador can make a nice deep throw.
23:50We know he can do that.
23:51Todd Munkin's seen that.
23:52It's on tape from last year.
23:54That's not quarterbacking.
23:55There's so much more to the art of quarterbacking.
23:58I know people are noting, wait, you guys are, there was a competition last year for Shador.
24:02No, there wasn't.
24:03He was a four-string quarterback.
24:04That's not the type of competition we are talking about.
24:06Like, he was competing for the backup job.
24:08They held him back last year.
24:09That wasn't a real competition last year.
24:10This is the first time in Shador's life it's actually been a real competition.
24:14No, they said it, and that was a complete farce.
24:16You had him throwing a ball, boys.
24:17That's not a competition.
24:19Nobody's serious on that.
24:20Hell, that's part of the reason why Stefanski ain't here anymore.
24:22Mary Kay, 820 this morning.
24:24Andrew Barry is.
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