00:00This is probably not going to be a popular take here,
00:02but Cab Farrar and I were talking about Barry Bonds and the steroid era.
00:05I'll tell you this, bring it back.
00:07Everybody needs a villain.
00:09And I'll tell you what, Barry Bonds,
00:11I have never seen a better baseball player in my entire life.
00:15I was doing the post-game show for the San Francisco Giants back in the day,
00:18and the guy would come on my show.
00:20Cab, every time I showed up at the ballpark, the guy hit a homer.
00:23He's the only guy with 500 stolen bases and 500-plus home runs.
00:29He's got seven gold gloves.
00:30He's the greatest baseball player that's ever lived.
00:33I don't want to hear anything about steroids,
00:34especially when you had Eric Gagne back in the day who was on Juice himself.
00:38There was no rules against steroids back in the day.
00:43So this is one of my favorite things right here.
00:45I tell everybody that will listen,
00:48Barry Bonds is the greatest hitter of all time.
00:50Hands down, there is no question.
00:51Now, I could make an argument here and say,
00:54and I think you know where I'm going to go with this,
00:57that Shohei Otani is the greatest player to ever play.
00:59I mean, right now, in this very moment,
01:02he's hitting better than Aaron Judge and pitching better than Paul Skeens.
01:06I mean, take that in for just a moment.
01:10Like, right?
01:11Like, I mean, that's so hard to even comprehend
01:14that he's doing that on both sides, right?
01:16But back to Barry Bonds.
01:18He is the greatest hitter of all time,
01:21and I don't care what anybody says.
01:22You look at, like, interviews with Greg Maddox where he says,
01:25the only way you pitch to Barry Bonds is you don't pitch to him, right?
01:28That's one of the greatest of all time, saying,
01:30you flat out just don't throw to the guy.
01:32He is the best hitter of all time.
01:35You know, I tell, and I love this topic, too,
01:38because I'm a huge Bonds guy.
01:41I've always said this about Hall of Fame players.
01:43If you can't tell the story of that sport without bringing that guy's name up,
01:50then you're not really doing it justice to your sport.
01:53You can't tell the story of baseball without Barry Bonds, right?
01:58I mean, if you don't get a little bit nostalgic,
02:00maybe it's me because of my age,
02:02but a little bit nostalgic thinking about, you know,
02:04like the Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, the ESPN cover.
02:08I think it was, who else was on it?
02:11McGuire.
02:12McGuire, yep, yep.
02:14Those three were on the, just like,
02:16it looked like it was a bodybuilding competition.
02:19I mean, come on.
02:20Like you said, there was no rules against it, okay?
02:23So, and go look at, like, an athlete,
02:26like a Raldus Chapman or somebody, something like that,
02:28and I'm not saying he's on steroids because he's not.
02:31There are different things that athletes now take,
02:33and I'm telling you from firsthand experience,
02:36that's what they do.
02:37And I know you probably know that, too.
02:39There are ways around the rules always.
02:41At all times, there are performance-enhancing substances
02:45that are being taken that are not tested for,
02:47and those substances evolve as the game evolves
02:50and the tests evolve.
02:52That's all it is.
02:53Oh, yeah, of course,
02:55because the steroid era ended back then
02:57because there's not new drugs today.
02:59I got it.
03:00Sure.
03:01We have open-heart surgery now.
03:03We have, like, transplants now.
03:05But, hey, we don't have ways of hiding juice today.
03:08Of course not.
03:09And if you give a lot of stuff that stuff
03:09looking at the world.
03:09but we've got to get a lot of it.
03:09Come to come out,
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