L'omicidio dei coniugi Maso avvenuto per mano del figlio e dei suoi complici è un caso che ha sconvolto l'Italia e ha scatenato i media. Per i particolari raccapriccianti del delitto, per il carisma di chi lo ha organizzato, Pietro Maso, e perché la provincia, i cui i valori tradizionali erano stati sostituiti dal Dio Denaro, è stata considerata "complice" del duplice omicidio che ha sgomentato l'Italia. Una storia "televisiva", non solo per come il piccolo schermo si è interessato a questo caso, ma anche per il ruolo che ha avuto nella "formazione" di uno degli assassini: Pietro Maso, affascinato da Don Johnson, il celebre interprete di Miami Vice, bello, glamour e a bordo di una Ferrari bianca, vuole essere come lui. I miti imperanti dell'epoca, del resto, sono il successo, il denaro, i beni materiali. È proprio Pietro Maso, in Cronache criminali, a raccontare la sua gioventù priva di ideali e la sua rinascita, iniziata in carcere anche con l'aiuto della fede. Un uomo ben diverso dal giovane sprezzante e spavaldo che tutti hanno visto nelle immagini del processo. Un uomo che oggi chiede di essere dimenticato per il suo passato drammatico e che, nel suo percorso di riqualificazione, ha deciso di dedicare la sua vita ad aiutare i carcerati a reinserirsi nella società.
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00:00:09Our journey into crime news continues through the crimes that have affected us in the
00:00:15deep because they put us in front of disturbing questions about ourselves but
00:00:20especially on the time and era in which we lived and in which these crimes were committed
00:00:25This stage of our journey takes us back to the beginning of the 90s and April 17, 1991.
00:00:33when in the deep Veneto province a 19 year old boy named Pietro Maso kills his father and
00:00:39His mother does it for the money. The Maso family is wealthy and the boy needs money.
00:00:46This
00:00:47at least that's what he'll tell it's a chilling crime is this really the way to
00:00:52entering the 90s we are losing something we are becoming worse
00:01:17There was a moment in the late 80s when the world seemed to change completely
00:01:23of a body the fall of the Berlin Wall the collapse of the Soviet empire the first world war
00:01:28gulf have put us in front of epochal changes and they happened all together after that
00:01:34the 80s were basically a relatively quiet decade there is an Italian crime
00:01:39which is very striking in those years and in the deep Veneto province a father and a mother are killed
00:01:46the town is called montecchia di crozara it is a small town of 4000 souls but a rich town it is
00:01:53country of a territory that has passed in the space of a few years from a peasant economy and all
00:01:59poor added to an industrial explosion to well-being but well-being has also brought something
00:02:07the author of that crime is a 19 year old boy who is dramatic and also tragic.
00:02:14a
00:02:1419 year old boy Pietro Maso is a man today we interviewed him 30 years later
00:02:20reflections of today's man are those on the story of the boy who was yesterday
00:02:43I would have liked to take my dad's hands and say I love you or my mom's hands though
00:02:51they didn't succeed they never succeeded it's something that I suffer from today I miss it miss it
00:03:06the ability to tell people especially my parents that I need them
00:03:20because life itself is difficult I also need to be comforted and I also need to
00:03:28give my values my feelings my emotions no I miss my parents humanly
00:03:35because clearly I would like physical contact but spiritually I am close and this already
00:03:41very last night two spouses Antonio Maso 57 years old were killed in this villa
00:03:50farmer and his wife maria rosa 48 years old housewife it was the son pietro 19 years old who did
00:03:56the macabre discovery the house had just been turned upside down to steal by the same murderers
00:04:04It was a terrible night, a very strong storm was raging, the neighbors informed us that the
00:04:12son returning home found his parents dead we begin to hear the son telling us
00:04:23how he found his parents when he returned home and so we began the inspection to find out
00:04:29what elements were of interest inside the house
00:04:37we found the two bodies that were still dressed and were covered in blood, you could see that they had been
00:04:44hit repeatedly and it was a truly shocking scene
00:04:57the two spouses had been killed on their way back from an evening of prayer of a neocatechumenal group and
00:05:05they had been hit as soon as they climbed the internal stairs that led from the garage to the upper part
00:05:10of the house was an absolutely important event for the area because it had never been
00:05:18nothing so serious or so strong happened
00:05:27I will never forget the morning of April 18, 1991 because early in the morning my photographer called me
00:05:35Costantino Fadda who was always on the ball there were two spouses killed in Montecchia di
00:05:41Dearest, we arrive in Via San Pietro, there is already a small crowd of neighbors commenting on that episode.
00:05:52which at that moment seemed incomprehensible we entered the courtyard of this villa in via san
00:05:59Pietro Costantino Fadda photographer, you are the only one who arrived at the place at seven in the morning
00:06:03of the murder in Montecchia di Cosara saw the mother the lady with a bag in her mouth is a
00:06:10shocking thing this one she made this photo the mask this mask they used
00:06:17to carry out the murder together with the carabinieri the magistrate's son was already there who accompanied
00:06:24at that moment with a calm air the carabinieri indicated the tavern the cellar where there was the
00:06:32car going up the stairs taking them to the first floor where the bodies were still there
00:06:43This boy continues to wander calmly around the courtyard while they arrive
00:06:50the televisions however you found the doors open while not bad immediately of the open doors of the
00:06:56lights on but I didn't arm myself right away I went to see when I was sitting on the stairs I
00:07:02I almost found legs sticking out so I ran away and went to ask
00:07:10help everyone above they said that there was the kidnapping part at least that's what a fury says
00:07:15beast
00:07:19I don't know now just review today the interview of Pietro Maso composed tidy with the hair in
00:07:30order that answers journalists coldly but evades questions about the mysterious attackers well does
00:07:37It really feels like looking at yourself in the inscrutable abyss of human nature, a little step
00:07:45the further you go you are drawn inexorably you fall and you can kill your parents
00:07:50cold blood at the beginning all the hypotheses are evaluated from a burglary gone wrong
00:08:01because perhaps the authors had been discovered and therefore there is always fear of the foreigner
00:08:07gypsy people who are stigmatized as belonging to certain categories therefore
00:08:13we begin to evaluate whether suspicious people had been seen in the area if there was something
00:08:17strangely enough, the first day was spent reconstructing the event and the people who could
00:08:23be of interest to the investigation, the focus is precisely not only on the theft or a robbery but also
00:08:32on the family's financial situation which then represented the real turning point in the story
00:08:41the huge fortune of the Maso family begins to catalyse the investigations and casts the first shadows on
00:08:48one of the couple's sons, 19-year-old Pietro, the same one who had thrown himself into the rain
00:08:53ask for help for now let's stop here we will continue the story of Pietro Maso and the
00:08:59double murder of his parents after the news we are telling the story of
00:09:08Pietro Maso and the double homicide of his parents in Montecchia di Crozare, we must say the investigators
00:09:16they suspect pietro maso quite early now that a son can kill his parents is a hypothesis
00:09:24that no investigator worthy of the name can feel like discarding has happened will happen unfortunately
00:09:31still but for us for normal people it is something inexplicable something monstrous something that
00:09:38It affects profound sacred values and poses tremendous questions about what happens within a family.
00:09:45which like all families before something tragic happens is a normal family and after it is something
00:09:53completely different, perhaps or rather almost certainly, has something to do with that economic boom that we brought with us
00:10:00since the 80s that season of enrichment that river of money that has fallen on the quiet
00:10:08Veneto province and the deeply torn one, changing it and also opening the way to episodes of
00:10:16violence and madness like those of Pietro Maso the story of Pietro Maso in the early 90s
00:10:22welcomes the Venetian society, the society of the north-east but perhaps a little bit our country as a whole in
00:10:30a
00:10:30in a crucial transition that takes it definitively out of poverty substantially
00:10:39from backwardness enters into a modernity which is also in social relations in the way of living this
00:10:47The relationship that the community has with people is also part of this modernization transition.
00:10:57with money what in the Veneto region is called schei no money for decades the local community
00:11:07The
00:11:07Veneto but I would say that industrious Italy makes the acquisition of a certain well-being coincide
00:11:14well-being therefore also the availability of money with work with hard work with the effort of
00:11:21work the generations that came after those who made the escape from poverty from condemnation
00:11:28immigration is not always aware of this difficult process, however a part of these
00:11:37new generations burst onto the scene of local history, of the history of our country, let's say of
00:11:45history in general without not only without awareness but with a determination with a coldness
00:11:55perhaps even with a cynicism and an aggressiveness that in some cases in extreme cases as in the story of
00:12:01Pietro Maso sees himself in a tragically ferociously exemplary way, no, without setting limits, he asks for everything and
00:12:11immediately in the most distorted and ferocious form at the end possible we return to Pietro Maso and the context in which
00:12:20matures his crime we have evoked the schei this occult and diabolical presence to this
00:12:27point, there are the funds behind Pietro Maso's crime, there are the funds that are starting to circulate
00:12:32in this territory where he takes his first steps and they are not easy steps
00:12:47My childhood was quite difficult because I was always sick as a child.
00:12:54with the limits also at the level of being able to attend school, kindergarten, classmates
00:13:02I was diagnosed with mini-trips so I had a very high fever
00:13:09what the story was already minute the priest because I had to die because I couldn't do it and I didn't
00:13:15I had to get through the night and then over the years little by little with the constant medical assistance nearby
00:13:28I have recovered my health fully, let's say
00:13:32it's been a slow process over the years
00:13:43I went to kindergarten twice, in the first years I was there 5 or 6 days a month
00:13:51And
00:13:51for the rest I was always in bed or at the doctor's or in an environment a little protected by my fragility
00:14:00Health
00:14:04there was a time in my life when I had this thought of knowing, discovering, going deeper, I would say
00:14:16also embrace the faith but in a more total way
00:14:23and I signed up for the seminar in Vicenza, I was happy, it was a place that I liked, as a place with as
00:14:31as people as topics if I liked it a lot
00:14:37I remember the episode when the director of the seminary in Vicenza spoke to my parents saying if the
00:14:44he's a good boy too but let's say that at the moment we are looking for priests who have this faith but
00:14:53also ready on a professional and theological level and we recommend that for the good of Peter too
00:15:00the last two years of middle school they did in their country and then later still in these
00:15:07expectations this desire could be re-evaluated precisely the entry into the seminary
00:15:16I suffered, I would say, being removed from the seminary
00:15:22then I myself also moved away
00:15:29I was in the growth phase where I was clearly discovering a man I was discovering girls
00:15:35I was discovering going out in the evening, the first times at the disco, the first times at a bit of everything
00:15:46and I saw that there was always someone within the company who was the leader
00:15:54this was a prerequisite for being considered and seen by the girls and by the classmates themselves
00:16:06I could perhaps afford to pay particular attention to clothing as well
00:16:12perhaps in the choice of the scooter which could have been the one that we observed each other to be
00:16:20the most established one within the group
00:16:27and soon after I became, let's say, the leader of the company
00:16:35without realizing that by taking these first steps I began to build an armor
00:16:41masks upon masks that then led me to completely lose reality
00:16:47to detach myself, no?
00:16:49to live in the third person
00:16:56there were more evenings that I came back with emptiness
00:17:00even when others perhaps asked that having the financial availability
00:17:06having the nice car having the prettiest girl in the group they envied me
00:17:12if I was able to communicate the little that I can today with difficulty, the pain or suffering
00:17:22and the void
00:17:24no one would have envied me even in those moments
00:17:33Maso had a personality with narcissistic traits
00:17:36so almost as if it were an addiction, a dependence
00:17:40of the need for approval and recognition of a leading role
00:17:46he builds this false self, this mask that he wears
00:17:50to relate to the social world which is the opposite of those insecurities he has inside
00:17:58that make him suffer, make him feel incapable of feeling a solid self-esteem
00:18:06Pietro Maso gambles at the casino and wins
00:18:10Pietro Maso begins to make himself known
00:18:12Pietro Maso organizes his small group of friends
00:18:15Pietro Maso attracts attention
00:18:18Pietro Maso becomes a sort of model in the province of Verona
00:18:23a little myth
00:18:28Peter has turned into a character
00:18:31which he himself calls Maso to differentiate him from himself
00:18:35he has now become a prisoner of his own image
00:18:39and is constantly driven by the desire to always appear better
00:18:44to enchant their audience every evening
00:18:49We are at the end of the 80s
00:18:53and also in Montechia di Crosara in the deep province of north-eastern Veneto
00:18:59these new myths take root
00:19:01so the Osteria da Mario, as it was called then, becomes the Jones bar
00:19:06Peter definitely, wanting to show that he is at the forefront
00:19:09he was inspired by the beautiful world of fashion
00:19:14and of the various myths that gravitated around television in that period
00:19:23Meanwhile, everything is really happening in the world
00:19:271991
00:19:29First Gulf War
00:19:31the settling of scores with Saddam Hussein
00:19:33it's only postponed by a dozen years
00:19:36the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
00:19:39which was the only party allowed for 70 years
00:19:42is dissolved
00:19:43Gorbachev who changed history
00:19:46he leaves the scene and we fall in love with a gentleman named Boris Yeltsin
00:19:50we consider him a champion of freedom and democracy
00:19:54we will later find out at our expense that he was preparing the ground for autocracy
00:19:59he is a tsar named Putin
00:20:00Meanwhile, the massacre in the former Yugoslavia is being prepared
00:20:05Meanwhile, something that concerns us very closely
00:20:08the first impressive wave of migration started from those Adriatic coasts
00:20:1227,000 Albanians land on the coasts of Puglia
00:20:16in that summer of 1991
00:20:19Peter Maso
00:20:20Meanwhile, Pietro Maso is following his American dream
00:20:23the true great legacy of the 80s
00:20:25do you remember it was said at the same time as America
00:20:30when Dallas episodes were broadcast
00:20:32well, Dallas ends in 1991
00:20:36but now the ground is plowed
00:20:38Pietro Maso has a legend
00:20:40the American dream for him is embodied in his face and features
00:20:43of a handsome and talented actor
00:20:45Don Johnson
00:20:46the fact that Don Johnson in the Miami Vice series
00:20:50fight crime and drug trafficking
00:20:52Pietro Maso doesn't care at all
00:20:54Pietro Maso is interested in reflective glasses
00:20:58I'm interested in a white jacket like this
00:21:01black t-shirts are of interest
00:21:03Don Johnson's customized Ferrari is of interest
00:21:06because Don Johnson is cool and Pietro Maso is what he wants to be
00:21:10cool and in 1991 it was published in America
00:21:15a highly successful novel
00:21:16it's called American Psycho
00:21:18A 27 year old boy writes this
00:21:20Brett Easton Ellis
00:21:21tells the story of a career iapi
00:21:24a very successful manager in Manhattan
00:21:26but at night he transforms into a ferocious and ruthless killer
00:21:31unscrupulous
00:21:32Pietro Maso certainly hasn't read that novel
00:21:36but inside those pages it's as if there was someone like him
00:21:43at some point I go to work near home
00:21:46there is a supermarket chain
00:21:50and I entered as a simple clerk
00:21:53I gave myself the deal
00:21:54I then also managed to get to the position of salt manager
00:21:58and then to the cash registers
00:22:01then it was a special recording
00:22:04I found that I could balance my end-of-day and end-of-month closing accounts.
00:22:12even though I was going out regularly
00:22:17from 2, 3, 4, 5 million per day
00:22:24in a year and a half I had stolen 250 million lire
00:22:31and this was clearly a very high budget
00:22:36for the age, for the times
00:22:37for the availability I had in comparing myself with the rest of the friends of my country
00:22:45with this money
00:22:46I personalized the imitation
00:22:48I went to the tailor, I didn't buy it anymore
00:22:50or I tried to draw something as I imagined it
00:22:53I had it made by tailors
00:22:55clearly at the age after 18 years
00:22:57I could get cars in a third type
00:23:00I could afford to go to the disco
00:23:03I had 25-30 million
00:23:05I made drinks for the whole disco
00:23:07Unfortunately, I get back here very few people
00:23:10that went beyond
00:23:12because there was nothing left inside anyway
00:23:16if not the attention on myself
00:23:19the money, the cash, the damned money
00:23:22Pietro Maso can never get enough of them
00:23:24it's a frenzy that has infected him
00:23:27to get this damned money he is ready to do anything
00:23:30even to extreme gestures
00:23:31even to kill his parents
00:23:34because he thinks he will be able to inherit his estate
00:23:37Thus begins an incredible sequence of murder attempts
00:23:41with the most absurd methods
00:23:43from undermining the house with gas cylinders
00:23:46to make them explode
00:23:47until hiring a killer
00:23:49to the point of killing his poor parents
00:23:52one at a time
00:23:57he did his calculations
00:23:59according to him by selling the villa and the family lands
00:24:02it can collect one billion and 600 million lire
00:24:05which would guarantee him two years of a good life
00:24:07but to realize this legacy
00:24:10must kill everyone
00:24:10not only the father, not only the mother
00:24:12but also the sisters and even the brother-in-law
00:24:14to carry out this crazy plan
00:24:17he needs accomplices
00:24:20in the village bar where he used to meet with his friends
00:24:23start finding people
00:24:25with which to carry on this experience
00:24:27and first he turns to his best friend
00:24:30with which he would have drawn
00:24:32the greatest profit from this enterprise
00:24:37Giorgio Carbonin
00:24:39he is Peter's best friend
00:24:41a boy who Maso
00:24:43he shaped in his own image and likeness
00:24:45he taught him to dress in a particular way
00:24:48and to dance
00:24:48Giorgio was a shy and insecure boy
00:24:51and for this reason he had asked
00:24:53to his friend Peter to help him become just like him
00:25:00to perfect the criminal plan
00:25:02Coptic Peter two other followers
00:25:05who are Paolo Cavazza and Damiano Burato
00:25:08the minor of the group
00:25:10both were entangled in the luxurious life
00:25:13and from the charisma of Peter
00:25:15Maso, skilled manipulator
00:25:18convinces his three followers
00:25:20to put the criminal plan into action
00:25:22and he succeeds by putting it into play
00:25:25refined manipulation techniques
00:25:28and leveraging what were then weak points
00:25:30of his followers
00:25:32either with me or without me
00:25:34who does not want to participate in the plan
00:25:36is excluded
00:25:41Peter had devised a system
00:25:44which was supposed to allow him to recover 25 million
00:25:49that they had eaten
00:25:51played
00:25:52to jewelry, nightclubs
00:25:55with friend Carbognì
00:26:00for which he had thought
00:26:01to forge the signature
00:26:03on a check
00:26:04with the mother's signature
00:26:06and putting in the amount he needed
00:26:09the situation is getting worse
00:26:11and Peter decided to take action
00:26:13he is aware that by now
00:26:15can no longer hide
00:26:16the withdrawal of 25 million lire
00:26:19from the mother's bank account
00:26:20so on the evening of April 17th
00:26:23meets at Barajon
00:26:24with his followers
00:26:25who express some doubts
00:26:27but once again
00:26:29the pack wins
00:26:30on the will of individuals
00:26:36the plan included
00:26:39that Pietro Maso
00:26:40and the minor
00:26:42they were hiding
00:26:43inside the kitchen
00:26:44while they were supposed to stay out
00:26:47Giorgio Carbognin
00:26:48and Paolo Cavazza
00:26:53Peter was armed
00:26:55of an iron pipe
00:26:56the minor of a pot
00:26:59Paul Cavazza
00:27:01of a steering block
00:27:02and Carbognin
00:27:03of another pot
00:27:04they had also procured the overalls
00:27:07thinking that
00:27:08they would have gotten dirty
00:27:10in the blood
00:27:11and they had also worn
00:27:13devil masks
00:27:18that evening
00:27:20they dress up
00:27:22on stage
00:27:23a kind of carnival
00:27:27he will be the only one
00:27:28not to disguise oneself
00:27:29not to wear masks
00:27:31Peter Maso
00:27:31he says he doesn't want to put
00:27:32that mask
00:27:33because he was
00:27:34the devil himself
00:27:35he didn't need it
00:27:36that mask
00:27:40Peter Maso
00:27:42unscrew the light bulb
00:27:43to leave
00:27:44the climb
00:27:45from the cellar
00:27:46from the garage
00:27:46where the father
00:27:48he parked the car
00:27:50to go up to the kitchen
00:27:51it was completely dark
00:27:55and in fact
00:27:56when the father arrives
00:27:58he goes up the stairs
00:27:59to go looking for
00:28:00of the switch
00:28:00Why
00:28:01think that the storm
00:28:03caused
00:28:04a breakdown
00:28:07and at that moment
00:28:09he gets hit
00:28:10from Peter
00:28:14falls
00:28:15he gets hit again
00:28:19the expert
00:28:21Dr. Alberto
00:28:22he will speak later
00:28:23of four shots
00:28:27the mother
00:28:28that on the stairs
00:28:29hear the commotion
00:28:30salt
00:28:31and gets hit
00:28:33in turn
00:28:34always the expert
00:28:36will find
00:28:36eleven shots
00:28:38on the body
00:28:38of the mother
00:28:40the father
00:28:41he doesn't die immediately
00:28:42and gets hit
00:28:44there is also this gesture
00:28:45of the foot
00:28:47on the head
00:28:48which is atrocious
00:28:49and since the mother
00:28:50she's not dead
00:28:52from the documents
00:28:53it turns out that
00:28:54he tried
00:28:55to suffocate her
00:28:56putting it also
00:28:56a lot of plastic
00:28:59on the head
00:29:03the crime
00:29:04it's done
00:29:05Peter Maso
00:29:06he washes his hands
00:29:07and abandons
00:29:09the little house
00:29:10together with his accomplices
00:29:11he must create an alibi for himself
00:29:13for this reason they reach
00:29:14a nightclub
00:29:15in a location
00:29:16far away
00:29:16they don't let them in
00:29:18they don't let them in
00:29:19because there's a party
00:29:20private
00:29:20but to them
00:29:21it doesn't matter
00:29:22it doesn't matter
00:29:23why it's important
00:29:24let them show themselves
00:29:25it's the way to build yourself
00:29:27an alibi
00:29:28but it's a crude alibi
00:29:29it holds very little
00:29:31and almost immediately
00:29:32Peter Maso
00:29:33he is nailed
00:29:37there were situations
00:29:39recent
00:29:40with respect to the event
00:29:41that were playing
00:29:43shrill
00:29:44respect
00:29:45to the context
00:29:46in which
00:29:47it had occurred
00:29:48the whole story
00:29:50we can understand
00:29:52the whole group
00:29:53of people
00:29:54which acted
00:29:55in concert
00:29:57and then
00:29:57as each one
00:29:59had given
00:29:59the alibi
00:30:00and provided
00:30:00the alibi
00:30:01in favor
00:30:02of the other
00:30:03from day one
00:30:04in which
00:30:05we had involved them
00:30:06it was clear
00:30:07that all four
00:30:08they had participated
00:30:12let's start too
00:30:13to evaluate
00:30:14the aspects
00:30:14that they were
00:30:15those who had us
00:30:16hit
00:30:16from the beginning
00:30:17Therefore
00:30:18having found it
00:30:19traces of blood
00:30:20in the sink
00:30:22of the house
00:30:23at home
00:30:23which was incongruent
00:30:24with the place
00:30:25having found it
00:30:26traces of blood
00:30:27in the closet
00:30:27among the clothes
00:30:28which was incongruent
00:30:31so they were elements
00:30:33that played for us
00:30:34like fakes
00:30:34with respect to the event
00:30:36and then
00:30:37we took them to the barracks
00:30:38and we heard them
00:30:40separately
00:30:41because one
00:30:42that was it
00:30:42which provided
00:30:43the alibi
00:30:43to the other
00:30:45the doubts
00:30:46they are born
00:30:47When
00:30:48the sister
00:30:49Laura
00:30:49find again
00:30:51at home
00:30:51the test
00:30:53of the exercise
00:30:55of the signature
00:30:56of the mother
00:30:57and a number
00:30:58written
00:30:59which was 25 million
00:31:00there he becomes annoyed
00:31:02is heard
00:31:03several times
00:31:05Peter Maso
00:31:06and in the end
00:31:08confess
00:31:12he said
00:31:12give me a glass of water
00:31:13and I'll tell you
00:31:14the truth
00:31:14and this was
00:31:15the moment
00:31:16topical
00:31:17let's say so
00:31:18to discover
00:31:19the event
00:31:20in his
00:31:21entirety
00:31:31awareness
00:31:33of that
00:31:33which is
00:31:34the real one
00:31:35or reality
00:31:36it was totally
00:31:37absent
00:31:43as if I
00:31:45I had seen
00:31:46a movie
00:31:46there wasn't
00:31:47feeling
00:31:48or one
00:31:50wickedness
00:31:50or
00:31:51a condition
00:31:52true
00:31:53of gravity
00:31:54I was
00:31:55absent
00:32:02it's not an excuse
00:32:05it's a statement
00:32:06I
00:32:07I was
00:32:07absent
00:32:08a body
00:32:09without
00:32:10mind
00:32:10without
00:32:11soul
00:32:12a body
00:32:13so
00:32:13with his
00:32:14Force
00:32:14with his
00:32:14possibility
00:32:15to move
00:32:16that I was looking for
00:32:18to feed
00:32:19through
00:32:19having it
00:32:20the more
00:32:21also sense
00:32:22of freedom
00:32:23not having
00:32:24the parents
00:32:25also sense
00:32:26to be able to
00:32:26to own
00:32:27their part
00:32:28so
00:32:29economic
00:32:29this
00:32:31absence
00:32:31total
00:32:32and not
00:32:33perception
00:32:34of reality
00:32:35And
00:32:36moving
00:32:38of how
00:32:40he has me
00:32:40permit
00:32:41arrive
00:32:41to accomplish
00:32:42the gesture
00:32:43what I did
00:32:47when it opens
00:32:48the process
00:32:49to Pietro Maso
00:32:50is defined
00:32:51the process
00:32:52of the year
00:32:53and this
00:32:54it is also
00:32:54understandable
00:32:55less understandable
00:32:56it's the sort
00:32:57of delirium
00:32:58collective
00:32:59what a soul
00:32:59many boys
00:33:00that they see
00:33:01in Pietro Maso
00:33:02a sort
00:33:02of idol
00:33:03there is a girl
00:33:05for example
00:33:05who is resigning
00:33:06from his work
00:33:06of commission
00:33:07in the booth
00:33:08to go
00:33:10in prison
00:33:11and introduce yourself
00:33:11as a girlfriend
00:33:12by Pietro Maso
00:33:13actually
00:33:14it's nothing new
00:33:15absolute
00:33:15it had happened
00:33:16in France
00:33:16in the 30s
00:33:17when Violet Nozier
00:33:18a girl
00:33:19like many others
00:33:20had killed
00:33:21the stepfather
00:33:21and attempted
00:33:22to kill
00:33:23the mother
00:33:24in the assize court
00:33:25she told
00:33:26a story
00:33:26tearful
00:33:27the father
00:33:28had abused
00:33:29her
00:33:30the mother
00:33:30he was an accomplice
00:33:31actually
00:33:31Violet acted
00:33:33in agreement
00:33:34with a debauched man
00:33:35even worse
00:33:36her
00:33:38to take possession
00:33:39a little money
00:33:40of the parents
00:33:41it's a story
00:33:42then photocopy
00:33:43of that
00:33:44by Pietro Maso
00:33:45for Pietro Maso
00:33:47there were
00:33:48ultra chants
00:33:49there was even one
00:33:51a Pietro Maso
00:33:52fan club
00:33:52and the interest
00:33:54of two great journalists
00:33:56Gad Lerner
00:33:57and Michele Santoro
00:33:58for this crime
00:33:59which was a bit
00:34:00the spy
00:34:01of a disturbing time
00:34:03it is possible
00:34:05keep separate
00:34:06the honest ones
00:34:07from the bad guys
00:34:09impression
00:34:10to see them like this
00:34:11they made these
00:34:11the carabinieri
00:34:12the photos
00:34:12the views?
00:34:13who did you know best?
00:34:14their teas?
00:34:15more than three
00:34:16they seemed like normal kids
00:34:18I know them very well
00:34:20we went to the bar together
00:34:22Like this
00:34:22and we all stayed
00:34:25astonished
00:34:26from what happened
00:34:28a tough start
00:34:29for the deep north
00:34:30that you want to take care of
00:34:32of young people
00:34:32between violence
00:34:33and well-being
00:34:35they are not crazy
00:34:36for money
00:34:37you can kill
00:34:37the father too
00:34:39and the mother?
00:34:40the god of money
00:34:41he imposed himself
00:34:42in this province
00:34:43too quickly
00:34:48Peter Maso
00:34:49she would do it again
00:34:50what he did
00:34:50he thought about it
00:34:52Very
00:34:52he lowered his head
00:34:54in the end
00:34:54but he didn't answer
00:34:55in the style no
00:34:59also for Lerner
00:35:00also for Santoro
00:35:02so
00:35:02it's the context
00:35:04the most problematic aspect
00:35:05but that too
00:35:06which helps us best
00:35:07to understand
00:35:08the crime
00:35:09by Pietro Maso
00:35:10but for the judges
00:35:11for the process
00:35:12let's go back to Pietro Maso
00:35:14and we follow
00:35:15the news
00:35:15of this legal matter
00:35:17Freddo
00:35:18with a firm voice
00:35:19Peter Maso
00:35:20he told
00:35:20in the classroom in Verona
00:35:21how and why
00:35:22killed
00:35:23their parents
00:35:24together with some
00:35:25his friends
00:35:25confirmed
00:35:27I did it
00:35:27to have
00:35:28faster cars
00:35:32during the hearings
00:35:33of my process
00:35:34I clearly
00:35:36I know I have to have
00:35:37I apologize
00:35:38provoked
00:35:39who on the other side
00:35:40he saw me
00:35:41that I am behind bars
00:35:42I was smiling
00:35:43but
00:35:43the truth
00:35:45it's that there was a void
00:35:46and a person alone
00:35:47that he had to face
00:35:48all this
00:35:51the clothing
00:35:53that was going on
00:35:53from the old man
00:35:54Wardrobe
00:35:55who had
00:35:58because after
00:35:59during the pardon
00:36:00it's not that I
00:36:01I could go out
00:36:01take my clothes
00:36:02therefore also
00:36:03during the process
00:36:04I saw myself
00:36:05that same one
00:36:06clothing
00:36:07that I used
00:36:08to go out in the evening
00:36:09to go to the disco
00:36:11and my own
00:36:12smile
00:36:13caused
00:36:14rightly
00:36:14even irritation
00:36:15and this
00:36:17I am sorry
00:36:18Very
00:36:20above all
00:36:21my smile
00:36:22it was to mask
00:36:23all the loneliness
00:36:25or my fears
00:36:28in front of
00:36:29to reality
00:36:29which was very
00:36:30bigger than me
00:36:36at the trial
00:36:37in the assize court
00:36:38Peter introduces himself
00:36:40carrying
00:36:41his image
00:36:43known up to that point
00:36:45Therefore
00:36:45combed
00:36:46by Don Johnson
00:36:47clean the neck
00:36:49with white dots
00:36:50double-breasted
00:36:51smile on the lips
00:36:53and the thing
00:36:55it shocks
00:36:56naturally
00:36:57all of us
00:36:58that we are witnessing
00:36:59to this one
00:36:59to this story
00:37:02in the phase
00:37:03in the process phase
00:37:04Maso
00:37:04it becomes almost
00:37:06an icon
00:37:06for the area
00:37:09he introduced himself
00:37:10in hearing
00:37:11with an attitude
00:37:13let's say
00:37:14from star
00:37:15this is that
00:37:15That
00:37:16emerged
00:37:17in the media
00:37:18of the time
00:37:19and above all
00:37:20in those days
00:37:20there
00:37:22him
00:37:23I had
00:37:25achieved
00:37:25notoriety
00:37:26not already
00:37:27and only
00:37:28for the event
00:37:29but how much
00:37:29for the
00:37:30notoriety
00:37:31who had
00:37:31obtained
00:37:33with these
00:37:33attitudes
00:37:37Peter Maso
00:37:38attracts
00:37:38because anyway
00:37:39he always
00:37:40maintains
00:37:40this status
00:37:41of damned beauty
00:37:43of character
00:37:44well dressed
00:37:45with muscles
00:37:46tanned
00:37:47strong
00:37:48because anyway
00:37:49has impressed
00:37:50that image
00:37:51by Pietro Maso
00:37:52that maybe
00:37:53will take place
00:37:53always behind
00:37:54Peter Maso
00:37:57every process
00:37:58it's a battle
00:37:59it's the classroom
00:37:59it's the ring
00:38:00on which
00:38:01we fight
00:38:02for freedom
00:38:03the attitude
00:38:04by Pietro Maso
00:38:05her look
00:38:06his swagger
00:38:07they confirm it
00:38:07hero
00:38:08in black
00:38:09of this terrible
00:38:10story
00:38:11they are very impressive
00:38:12public opinion
00:38:13and the media
00:38:14of the time
00:38:15but this is also
00:38:16a process
00:38:16in which we know
00:38:17who was it
00:38:18to kill
00:38:19and then
00:38:20the real object
00:38:21of the dispute
00:38:21it's not the responsibility
00:38:23the battle
00:38:24we fight
00:38:25around the appraisals
00:38:26psychiatric
00:38:27in the morning
00:38:29it was heard
00:38:30the consultant
00:38:31of the prosecution
00:38:32the professor
00:38:32Victorino Andreoli
00:38:33which he traced
00:38:34the psychological profile
00:38:36of the three young people
00:38:37at the procedural level
00:38:39the diagnostic question
00:38:41was
00:38:41the question
00:38:42most relevant
00:38:44Why
00:38:44from the moment in which
00:38:46Maso
00:38:46he declared himself
00:38:47I confess
00:38:48what it was
00:38:49it is necessary to understand
00:38:51it was the actual
00:38:51condition
00:38:52psychopathological
00:38:53of the defendants
00:38:57the process
00:38:58will be characterized
00:38:59for the difference
00:39:00between the consultancy
00:39:01arranged by the public
00:39:03ministry
00:39:03who had commissioned
00:39:05the professor
00:39:05Victorino Andreoli
00:39:06and that one
00:39:07entrusted
00:39:08from the defense
00:39:09to the professor
00:39:10Carlo Andrea Robotti
00:39:11and to the professor
00:39:11Ivan Galliani
00:39:13if both
00:39:14they will agree
00:39:15in recognizing
00:39:16the disorder
00:39:17narcissistic
00:39:18of personality
00:39:19Professor Robotti
00:39:20goes beyond
00:39:21and diagnostics
00:39:22a disorder
00:39:23even deeper
00:39:26we gave two things
00:39:28that they suffered from us
00:39:30put in order
00:39:31in one position
00:39:33of discomfort
00:39:33the first
00:39:34was that
00:39:35somehow
00:39:36he had a lot
00:39:38the impression
00:39:38that he suffered
00:39:40our intervention
00:39:42rather than see
00:39:44in the experts
00:39:45of his lawyer
00:39:46defender
00:39:46of people
00:39:47that they could have
00:39:49help
00:39:49to understand better
00:39:50what had happened
00:39:52and the other thing
00:39:53that we saw
00:39:54it was the one that we
00:39:55in technical terms
00:39:57we call
00:39:57lack of affection
00:39:58which we could translate
00:40:00like a difficulty
00:40:02or at least
00:40:03an inability
00:40:04to express
00:40:05emotions
00:40:06directly
00:40:07in front of us
00:40:08we had
00:40:09the impression
00:40:10that he
00:40:10he couldn't succeed
00:40:12to express
00:40:13himself
00:40:13he almost needed it
00:40:15to have
00:40:15a mask
00:40:17and somehow
00:40:19there was a character
00:40:21that he did
00:40:22the actions
00:40:22which then are
00:40:23those that are
00:40:24you happen
00:40:27and this
00:40:28for us
00:40:29it's a signal
00:40:30of disturbance
00:40:30of conscience
00:40:33not only
00:40:34of personality
00:40:36the disorder
00:40:37of conscience
00:40:38becomes such
00:40:38at the level
00:40:39psychiatric
00:40:40forensic
00:40:41to be constituted
00:40:41reason
00:40:42of infirmity
00:40:43mental
00:40:43in this case
00:40:44of seeds
00:40:44infirmity
00:40:45mental
00:40:47and we arrived
00:40:48at the conclusion
00:40:49that there was
00:40:50a disorder
00:40:51narcissistic
00:40:52of personality
00:40:55the consultancy
00:40:57of the prosecution
00:40:58coincides with
00:40:59that of the defense
00:41:00in recognizing
00:41:01in Pietro Maso
00:41:02a disorder
00:41:03narcissistic
00:41:04of personality
00:41:05but if the professor
00:41:06Robots
00:41:07talks about
00:41:08seeds
00:41:08infirmity
00:41:09mental
00:41:10for the professor
00:41:11Andreoli
00:41:12the boys
00:41:13they were capable
00:41:14to understand
00:41:14to want
00:41:18the expertise
00:41:19of the professor
00:41:20Andreoli
00:41:21taking note
00:41:22first of all
00:41:22on the figure
00:41:23by Pietro Maso
00:41:25he was speaking
00:41:26in the end
00:41:26of disturbance
00:41:28narcissistic
00:41:29of personality
00:41:30but the part
00:41:32what he did
00:41:32Very
00:41:33to get angry
00:41:34Montecchia
00:41:35it was the analysis
00:41:37that he
00:41:37he did
00:41:38of the country
00:41:39of the country
00:41:42talking about
00:41:44hypocrisy
00:41:45of false myths
00:41:47of importance
00:41:48which is given
00:41:49to money
00:41:49and the sentence
00:41:50who made them
00:41:51to jump
00:41:52it was
00:41:52in this territory
00:41:54the pig
00:41:55counts more
00:41:56of the wife
00:41:59Certain
00:42:00that of the professor
00:42:01Victorino Andreoli
00:42:02it seems
00:42:03a provocation
00:42:05at least as such
00:42:05is welcomed
00:42:07Why
00:42:08an account
00:42:09is to download
00:42:10the crime
00:42:11on madness
00:42:12something that
00:42:13we can't
00:42:13check
00:42:14an expression
00:42:15so generic
00:42:16and also at the bottom
00:42:17reassuring
00:42:18another account
00:42:19is to say that
00:42:20the context
00:42:21that the environment
00:42:22that the spirit
00:42:23of the time
00:42:24they had
00:42:24a flu
00:42:25a flu
00:42:26also decisive
00:42:27on the gesture
00:42:28terrible
00:42:29by Pietro Maso
00:42:29and his accomplices
00:42:31and in fact
00:42:31the sentence
00:42:33first degree
00:42:33arouses
00:42:34many controversies
00:42:45controversies
00:42:45after the sentence
00:42:46of the court
00:42:47of Verona
00:42:47who saved
00:42:48life imprisonment
00:42:49to Pietro Maso
00:42:49and gave 26 years
00:42:50of imprisonment
00:42:51to his two accomplices
00:42:53Good evening
00:42:54surprise
00:42:55and indignation
00:42:56for the sentence
00:42:57of the court
00:42:57of Verona
00:42:58at the trial
00:42:58for the murder
00:42:59by Econio Gimaso
00:43:00judgment
00:43:00by many
00:43:01withholding tax
00:43:01excessively
00:43:02mild
00:43:03towards whom
00:43:03with impressive
00:43:05coldness
00:43:05and without a shadow
00:43:06of repentance
00:43:07he committed
00:43:08a crime
00:43:08so atrocious
00:43:09Peter Maso
00:43:10the main one
00:43:11defendant
00:43:11convicted
00:43:12at 30 years old
00:43:12will come out
00:43:13from prison
00:43:13probably
00:43:14much earlier
00:43:14as well as
00:43:15the young accomplices
00:43:19the sentence
00:43:20of castation
00:43:21in his
00:43:22simplicity
00:43:22confirmed
00:43:23the sentence
00:43:25of appeal
00:43:26and then
00:43:26the sentence
00:43:28definitive
00:43:28at 30 years old
00:43:29of imprisonment
00:43:31I just wanted
00:43:32for the first time
00:43:33to express my feelings
00:43:35and what I
00:43:36I really feel
00:43:36I am ashamed
00:43:37of that
00:43:38what I did
00:43:38these are the first ones
00:43:40phrases by Pietro Maso
00:43:41he pronounced
00:43:41before the court
00:43:42of assizes
00:43:42of appeal
00:43:43of Venice
00:43:43that today
00:43:44will have to issue
00:43:44the sentence
00:43:45a Pietro Maso
00:43:46moved
00:43:47trembling
00:43:47who accepted
00:43:48for the first time
00:43:49at a distance
00:43:50two years old
00:43:50from the murder
00:43:51of his parents
00:43:52to explain himself
00:43:53to repent
00:43:54and he did it
00:43:54reading a text
00:43:55who wrote
00:43:56I think of my parents
00:43:58that I killed
00:43:58in the ugliest way
00:43:59terrible and shameful
00:44:00possible
00:44:01these things
00:44:02these thoughts
00:44:03these sufferings
00:44:04they forced me
00:44:05convincing me
00:44:06to have one's own
00:44:06that respect
00:44:07towards
00:44:08of my parents
00:44:08to come here
00:44:09in front of you
00:44:10so as not to ask
00:44:11clemency
00:44:12so as not to ask
00:44:12compassion
00:44:17during the imprisonment
00:44:18especially at the beginning
00:44:19I thought
00:44:21which was better
00:44:22that I would end it
00:44:23and I was trying to commit suicide
00:44:25the next day
00:44:26the sentence
00:44:27which happened
00:44:28late at night
00:44:29after 8.30pm
00:44:31getting up in bed
00:44:32before wearing
00:44:33the shoes
00:44:34he said
00:44:35Today
00:44:36you get up
00:44:37you will always get back up
00:44:38and you will look for
00:44:40a better person
00:44:41or
00:44:42today itself
00:44:43it's the last day
00:44:45that day
00:44:46I put on my shoes
00:44:47put on shoes
00:44:48and now I'm here
00:44:49after the hour
00:44:50I have never again
00:44:51thought
00:44:52to take my life
00:44:59the personality
00:45:01of someone like Pietro Maso
00:45:02it's difficult
00:45:03to be seized
00:45:03especially
00:45:04for someone like him
00:45:05which is so influenced
00:45:06from the media world
00:45:08from fiction
00:45:09someone who covers himself
00:45:11continuously
00:45:12and constantly
00:45:12of masks
00:45:13to demonstrate
00:45:14to always be
00:45:15and constantly
00:45:16someone different
00:45:18from that
00:45:18which is actually
00:45:23the diagnosis
00:45:24by Pietro Maso
00:45:25of disturbance
00:45:27narcissistic
00:45:27of personality
00:45:28actually
00:45:30can be
00:45:31better read
00:45:32as a condition
00:45:34of psychopathy
00:45:35psychopathy
00:45:37it's a construct
00:45:38mental
00:45:39complex
00:45:40where however
00:45:41the central aspect
00:45:43it is the use
00:45:44of the others
00:45:45like things
00:45:47for which
00:45:49it is indisputable
00:45:51that Maso
00:45:51I thought
00:45:53his parents
00:45:54as objects
00:45:55which prevented him
00:45:57the achievement
00:45:58of a goal
00:45:59economic
00:46:00and as such
00:46:01has decided
00:46:02to eliminate them
00:46:03like us
00:46:03we will eliminate
00:46:04a piece of furniture
00:46:04that hinders us
00:46:08the Maso case
00:46:10Certainly
00:46:12mark
00:46:13the passage
00:46:14from an era
00:46:14in which
00:46:15also actions
00:46:17tremendous
00:46:18like murder
00:46:19they are linked
00:46:20to
00:46:21some perspectives
00:46:23values
00:46:24of a certain kind
00:46:25to a situation
00:46:26Where
00:46:27precisely
00:46:28the murder
00:46:29becomes
00:46:29expression
00:46:30of a
00:46:31wanting to appear
00:46:33in a certain way
00:46:36Maso
00:46:36he was a person
00:46:37Very
00:46:38Very
00:46:38concentrated
00:46:40on being
00:46:42in a certain way
00:46:42on being dressed
00:46:43in a certain way
00:46:44on giving
00:46:45a certain type
00:46:46of image
00:46:46which then
00:46:47if we think about it
00:46:48that's it
00:46:49which then
00:46:49it has become
00:46:51socially
00:46:52a sharing
00:46:54that today
00:46:55like today
00:46:55then he expresses himself
00:46:56in a manner
00:46:57absolute
00:46:58on social media
00:47:00what
00:47:01once
00:47:03it could appear
00:47:04a shape
00:47:05of vanity
00:47:06pathological
00:47:07Today
00:47:08it has become
00:47:09social custom
00:47:10like everyone else
00:47:11we see
00:47:12and we know
00:47:13so much so that it is true
00:47:14That
00:47:15the same manuals
00:47:17statistici
00:47:18and diagnostic
00:47:19like the DSM
00:47:20the famous manual
00:47:21of psychiatry
00:47:23curtains
00:47:24to
00:47:27to depathologize
00:47:27the conditions
00:47:29like the disorder
00:47:30narcissistic
00:47:31of personality
00:47:31because now
00:47:32have become
00:47:33so
00:47:34so frequent
00:47:35which is difficult
00:47:37consider them
00:47:38as an expression
00:47:39of pathology
00:47:40and this
00:47:42In my opinion
00:47:42it is also
00:47:42a reflection
00:47:44what can we do
00:47:44our personalities
00:47:46they tend to change
00:47:47in relation
00:47:48in the historical era
00:47:49in which we live
00:47:58in prison
00:47:59Peter Maso
00:48:00he plays sports
00:48:01he sunbathes
00:48:02but it begins
00:48:04even to study
00:48:05abandon
00:48:06the fake myths
00:48:07start
00:48:08a path
00:48:09of re-education
00:48:10which then
00:48:10that's it
00:48:11to which it should be
00:48:11serve prison time
00:48:12discovers faith
00:48:13it begins
00:48:15to dialogue
00:48:16to correspond
00:48:17with a priest
00:48:17start
00:48:18to change
00:48:24religion
00:48:25let's say
00:48:26in the center
00:48:27of life
00:48:27by Pietro Maso
00:48:28or at least
00:48:28of family life
00:48:30the sisters
00:48:30they are very devoted
00:48:31they are very religious
00:48:34and it will be religion
00:48:35that will help
00:48:36precisely the sisters
00:48:37to forgive Maso
00:48:38it will be them
00:48:39to go to prison
00:48:41to talk to him
00:48:42through the figure
00:48:43by Don Guido
00:48:44Doctor Deschini
00:48:45what will be then
00:48:46the spiritual father
00:48:47by Pietro Maso
00:48:48where Pietro Maso
00:48:49will go among other things
00:48:50to work
00:48:50immediately after release from prison
00:48:52in the broadcaster
00:48:53Telepace television
00:48:55Don Guido
00:48:55Doctor Deschini
00:48:56will help both
00:48:57Peter Maso
00:48:57to understand
00:48:59what he did
00:49:00that the sisters
00:49:00to forgive
00:49:01Pietro Maso himself
00:49:08me one evening
00:49:10like many others
00:49:11I was listening
00:49:13a little music
00:49:14to try to escape
00:49:16from that dark reality
00:49:17of the prison
00:49:18and of the sensation
00:49:20of loneliness
00:49:21what's inside me
00:49:22and I heard
00:49:24like many other times
00:49:25my name
00:49:26a name
00:49:27that lately
00:49:29is pronounced
00:49:30Alone
00:49:31IMHO
00:49:33to make news
00:49:34but this time
00:49:36I hear a voice
00:49:38what he wants
00:49:39my news
00:49:41and wishes
00:49:42a letter from me
00:49:43this voice
00:49:44it's not from a journalist
00:49:46but of a person
00:49:48what he wants
00:49:48at least I hope so
00:49:50get to know me
00:49:51as a person
00:49:53and not for that
00:49:54what I did
00:49:55dear Don Guido
00:50:00it's difficult for me
00:50:03convince me
00:50:04that there are still
00:50:06people
00:50:06that they think
00:50:08to me as a boy
00:50:10anyone
00:50:10to a boy
00:50:11that despite everything
00:50:13still needs
00:50:15to feel nothing
00:50:17like a friendship
00:50:19and affectionate gestures
00:50:20from those
00:50:22who surrounded him
00:50:23and many
00:50:25many times
00:50:26he wonders
00:50:27if one day
00:50:28will still be able to
00:50:30feel the heat
00:50:31of a friendship
00:50:32or the sweet taste
00:50:33of a gesture
00:50:34of affection
00:50:35of love
00:50:39dear Don Guido
00:50:40perhaps this letter of mine
00:50:42it will last
00:50:43but I feel
00:50:45the need
00:50:45to continue
00:50:47to move forward
00:50:48to have someone
00:50:49that it is for me
00:50:49truly a friend
00:50:51and help me
00:50:52to face
00:50:53and rejoice
00:50:54of that little
00:50:55that the future
00:50:56Perhaps
00:50:57will reserve for me
00:50:58Peter Maso
00:51:02it looks all right
00:51:04of an awakening
00:51:05the parable
00:51:06by Pietro Maso
00:51:08a rebirth
00:51:09it brings to mind
00:51:11an old story
00:51:12another story
00:51:13atrocious
00:51:141919
00:51:16and in Munich
00:51:18a boy
00:51:18is called
00:51:19Jakob Apfelbock
00:51:21he is 16 years old
00:51:22kills with gunshots
00:51:23the father and the mother
00:51:24and then for three weeks
00:51:26he watches over it
00:51:27the corpses in the house
00:51:28it's a story
00:51:29tremendous
00:51:30like all these stories
00:51:31that we are telling
00:51:33but it's very impressive
00:51:35a young man
00:51:36Bertolt Brecht
00:51:36who writes
00:51:38one of his
00:51:38most beautiful ballads
00:51:39the Lily of the Fields
00:51:40I would like to hear it
00:51:42a small fragment
00:51:43interpreted
00:51:44from the great Milva
00:51:45and the newsagent
00:51:47that comes
00:51:48about me
00:51:49he said what a smell
00:51:51there's a smell in here
00:51:52in no light
00:51:54Jakob Apfelbock
00:51:56said the linen
00:51:59in the chest of drawers
00:51:59and the milkmaid
00:52:01that comes
00:52:02of of
00:52:03he said what a smell
00:52:05there's a smell
00:52:06of dead here
00:52:07in united light
00:52:09Jakob Apfelbock
00:52:10said the calf
00:52:12broken down
00:52:13in the chest of drawers
00:52:14and when one day
00:52:16they peeked
00:52:17in the chest of drawers
00:52:19as you have seen
00:52:20we interviewed
00:52:21long
00:52:22Peter Maso
00:52:23he told us
00:52:25his story
00:52:25he told us
00:52:26his reflections
00:52:28he spoke
00:52:29of anguish
00:52:30to bring
00:52:32on me
00:52:33the weight
00:52:33of a name
00:52:34so cumbersome
00:52:35it seemed
00:52:36to invoke
00:52:36the right
00:52:37to oblivion
00:52:37can
00:52:38who committed the crime
00:52:39a crime
00:52:40so atrocious
00:52:40to invoke
00:52:41the right
00:52:41to oblivion
00:52:50Peter
00:52:52today
00:52:53it's hard
00:52:55because there is suffering
00:52:57because there is a past
00:52:58of suffering
00:53:05it's the last one
00:53:07interview
00:53:08that I will release
00:53:11I thought
00:53:12appropriate
00:53:13when I went out
00:53:14make some
00:53:15because everyone
00:53:16they talked about me
00:53:18and it seemed to me
00:53:19Right
00:53:19also to ask
00:53:20publicly
00:53:21pardon
00:53:22my path
00:53:24of change
00:53:24he came
00:53:25very slow
00:53:26I chose
00:53:28to live
00:53:29I chose
00:53:30to face it
00:53:33the grip
00:53:34Of
00:53:37judgment
00:53:40and of
00:53:42assessment
00:53:44at that moment
00:53:45I tried
00:53:46to suspend it
00:53:47Why
00:53:48I went
00:53:49in contrast
00:53:50strongly
00:53:50in contrast
00:53:51with that
00:53:52that I
00:53:53I wanted
00:53:54look for
00:53:55to understand
00:53:56as
00:53:57I am
00:53:57successful
00:53:58as
00:53:59it was possible
00:54:00happen
00:54:08what I am
00:54:10it was earned
00:54:12on suffering
00:54:14on loneliness
00:54:15on living
00:54:16their own
00:54:17emotions
00:54:19and not being able to
00:54:20external
00:54:22I succeeded
00:54:24to arrive
00:54:24up to here
00:54:26and as I say
00:54:28Also
00:54:28to others
00:54:29Well
00:54:29if we have arrived
00:54:30up to here
00:54:31you can go
00:54:31beyond
00:54:38I look at life
00:54:40and I'm looking
00:54:41to collect
00:54:42collect things
00:54:43true
00:54:45once upon a time
00:54:46I was collecting
00:54:47trivial things
00:54:48a dress
00:54:50in addition
00:54:50more money
00:54:51a machine
00:54:52improve
00:54:52Today
00:54:53the research
00:54:55in another
00:54:56direction
00:54:56Exactly
00:54:57opposite
00:54:58to that one
00:54:58that I
00:55:00until
00:55:00at a certain age
00:55:02I tried
00:55:05I have a weight
00:55:06that I'm carrying
00:55:07which is that
00:55:08of the lack
00:55:08that I used
00:55:09my parents
00:55:10but I don't have
00:55:11no weight
00:55:12that it was
00:55:13tied up
00:55:14to my imprisonment
00:55:14to bring
00:55:15I don't hear
00:55:16that I have been
00:55:17closed
00:55:18and that was given to me
00:55:18removed
00:55:19the possibility
00:55:20to move
00:55:21to have
00:55:23it seems like it is
00:55:24been in prison
00:55:26at least
00:55:27Perhaps
00:55:27is
00:55:28about ten
00:55:28of days
00:55:29I don't give
00:55:30the weight
00:55:31of 20
00:55:31of years
00:55:32it is not
00:55:34inside me
00:55:44I
00:55:44to go back
00:55:46in my life
00:55:46to give life
00:55:48to my parents
00:55:58I would like to be
00:56:00forgotten
00:56:02I would like
00:56:03have
00:56:04that
00:56:04little
00:56:06space
00:56:06that allows me
00:56:07to be able to do
00:56:08this thing
00:56:10that for me
00:56:10it's very important
00:56:12Today
00:56:13together with other people
00:56:16I'm dedicating myself
00:56:18in time
00:56:18full
00:56:21through
00:56:22an ONS
00:56:22that we founded
00:56:23what is called
00:56:24the rejected stone
00:56:25upon insertion
00:56:27working
00:56:30and social
00:56:30to the inmates
00:56:33that are
00:56:34atoning
00:56:36the right one
00:56:37penalty
00:56:41it is the element
00:56:43where ours
00:56:44ONS
00:56:46it is based
00:56:48it's on the
00:56:49the consideration
00:56:51not of us
00:56:53but of the person
00:56:54which is welcomed
00:56:55with
00:56:56the utmost respect
00:56:58and with the utmost
00:57:00Attention
00:57:01to his little ones
00:57:02and large
00:57:03problems
00:57:07I
00:57:09measuring
00:57:10myself
00:57:11measuring that little
00:57:12that I gave
00:57:12to others
00:57:14it came back to me
00:57:16a hundred times
00:57:17moreover
00:57:18and this value
00:57:19I consider it
00:57:20undeservedly
00:57:21in the sense that
00:57:22but really
00:57:23I did so little
00:57:24and I received so much
00:57:26When
00:57:27seeing life
00:57:28listening
00:57:31stories
00:57:31lived
00:57:32of these people
00:57:33I know they have
00:57:34done a lot
00:57:35And
00:57:35but you know
00:57:36being that they have received
00:57:38little
00:57:40too
00:57:40I received
00:57:41comparison
00:57:42what I gave
00:57:44I try to do
00:57:46Today
00:57:47to give
00:57:47much more
00:57:49try to
00:57:50get closer
00:57:51In short
00:57:51to what I received
00:58:00thanks to you
00:58:00and sorry if
00:58:01once again
00:58:02I entered
00:58:03in your life
00:58:05I hope this is the last one
00:58:06on my part
00:58:10these are strong words
00:58:12these by Pietro Maso
00:58:13even touching
00:58:15for a certain aspect
00:58:17after serving his sentence
00:58:18Peter Maso
00:58:19he got married
00:58:21he had a relapse
00:58:22in cocaine
00:58:22from which he emerged
00:58:23thanks to a detox
00:58:25in a psychiatric clinic
00:58:27he works today
00:58:27in one
00:58:28non-profit organization
00:58:29that he himself
00:58:30he founded
00:58:31can it be changed?
00:58:33Violet Nosier
00:58:34do you remember it?
00:58:35Violet Nosier
00:58:36he had the penalty
00:58:36to death
00:58:37switched
00:58:38in prison
00:58:39served a certain amount
00:58:40number of years
00:58:41he went out
00:58:41he reconciled
00:58:42with the mother
00:58:43he got married
00:58:44he had children
00:58:45changed
00:58:46really changed
00:58:47Peter Maso
00:58:48today he says
00:58:48I have changed
00:58:49and we want
00:58:50believe him
00:58:51today we leave each other
00:58:52at the end of this episode
00:58:54with a song
00:58:55who photographs
00:58:56the spirit of the times
00:58:57of 1991
00:58:58but of that other time
00:59:00of what did not belong
00:59:02to Pietro Maso
00:59:03of then
00:59:03of that
00:59:04of the young people
00:59:05who looked to the future
00:59:06with great hope
00:59:07and a great desire to do
00:59:08the song is called
00:59:09A dancing tribe
00:59:10Lorenzo Cherubini
00:59:11in art
00:59:12young men
00:59:14Attention
00:59:19my name is
00:59:20Maurizio Cocciolone
00:59:27Martina Colombari
00:59:34if we are together
00:59:37there will be because
00:59:38the first place winner
00:59:40And
00:59:56Authorities and ordinary citizens
00:59:58they have today
00:59:58paid homage
00:59:59to the body
01:00:00by Libero Grassi
01:00:01evils grown
01:00:01to hear speeches
01:00:03of the fathers
01:00:03barricaded behind walls
01:00:04in this world
01:00:05of art
01:00:05who have as idols
01:00:07money and bosses
01:00:08and evaluate a man
01:00:09based on how many millions
01:00:10millions of cassatas
01:00:11billions of billions
01:00:13and we will be stupid
01:00:14but we are not lied to
01:00:15because I say it to your face
01:00:16there is no problem
01:00:17because under my feet
01:00:18the floor is shaking
01:00:19and I don't have an earthquake
01:00:21I don't have the epidemic
01:00:22not even a storm
01:00:23not even a famine
01:00:24it's a tribe that dances
01:00:26it's a tribe that dances
01:00:28the case of the Moby Prince
01:00:30that at the exit of the port of Livorno
01:00:31the evening of April 10, 1991
01:00:34it's a tribe that dances
01:00:36it's a tribe that dances
01:00:38and look for a reason
01:00:39for whom there is a land
01:00:40and there is no longer one nation
01:00:41made up of boys
01:00:42and from the people
01:00:43of belief, of color
01:00:44and of different culture
01:00:46because it's the only way
01:00:47and it's the only certainty
01:00:48because in our hearts
01:00:49let the bitterness end
01:00:56I'm Romano Carancini
01:00:58city of Macerata
01:01:00I ask everyone
01:01:01to stay
01:01:02in suitable places
01:01:04why in the city
01:01:06a madman is walking around
01:01:08that shoots
01:01:16initially we were talking about
01:01:18of a settling of scores
01:01:19between Nigerian gangs
01:01:27people are panicking
01:01:29there was an alarm
01:01:31generalized
01:01:39the telephone lines
01:01:41of the operations center
01:01:42they were stormed
01:01:44Carabinieri Macerata
01:01:47we are here in Cortocairelli
01:01:49you're welcome to stay
01:01:51and there's a girl on the ground
01:01:53so mine wasn't
01:01:54a laugh
01:01:56purely racial
01:01:57but the fact that everyone
01:01:58drug dealers are black
01:02:03I started to live
01:02:04three days ago
01:02:05when I freed myself
01:02:06from all over the sea
01:02:07it's a dream
01:02:07city
01:02:08centralization
01:02:08one last one
01:02:13he supports
01:02:14insidenore
01:02:14crossing
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