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00:00Ladies and gentlemen, Daryl Ryder.
00:02Hi, Daryl.
00:02Hello, boys.
00:03It's good to see you.
00:04It's good to be seen.
00:05I appreciated the sarcasm from Jeff.
00:07You think sarcasm?
00:09I've never heard him do that.
00:10Yeah, there was a little sarcasm in the voice,
00:11but I respect and appreciate it and admire it.
00:14Daryl, I don't know if you caught this or not yesterday.
00:16There's a lot of talk that Deshaun Watson is QB1 right now.
00:19I don't know if you caught that story or not.
00:21I heard a little something-something about that.
00:23I've got to be honest.
00:24Surprised?
00:25Not.
00:26I've been saying it since last year.
00:28I'm telling you, I'm not surprised.
00:30And I've been saying this to you for a year or two,
00:32and I don't think you've ever really –
00:33I don't ever remember having a heated argument.
00:36I had people that wanted to yell and scream at me last year.
00:38I was like, if Deshaun Watson's on the roster and he's healthy,
00:41he's your starting quarterback.
00:42It doesn't matter who else is here.
00:44I don't care who – it doesn't matter what anybody's last name is.
00:47It doesn't matter how good they are.
00:48I know that paycheck that Deshaun Watson picks up
00:50is going to garner him the opportunity to be the starting quarterback
00:54if he's healthy.
00:55Your thoughts?
00:56Yeah.
00:56Well, I've been saying all offseason that Deshaun is going to look like
01:00the better quarterback during practice.
01:02He's got the experience.
01:04He's been through, you know, changes before.
01:07So, in that respect, he does have a leg up on Shador Sanders.
01:12And I do think that there's still some things that Shador Sanders is adapting to
01:16when it comes to NFL life as well.
01:19And, you know, now, it sure sounds like Shador has a much better working relationship
01:25with Todd Munkin than maybe he did with Kevin Stefanski,
01:27or maybe he's just more confident with Todd Munkin or comfortable than he was.
01:32It could just be more out there too, right?
01:34Yeah.
01:35You know, however you want to describe it.
01:37The relationship seems to be a little better with the head coach than last year, right?
01:43And also, too, it helps he's actually getting live practice reps
01:46instead of having to throw to the ball boys during drills and whatnot.
01:49Although the ball boys were giving the starters a run for their money.
01:52Better hands than most of the guys in the wide receiver room.
01:55That's why they drafted a couple wide receivers this year, thankfully.
01:58Well, at the worst case, they'll be ball boys.
02:00Yeah.
02:01But, no, I mean...
02:03That's pretty funny.
02:04I do think that, you know, Deshaun is the odds-on favorite to win that job.
02:11There's no question about it.
02:12So, you know, obviously, hat tip to Mary Kay for her report yesterday.
02:18But not all that surprising to me.
02:23The fantasy football guru, Matthew Berry, he has a newsletter every day.
02:30And it was the headline.
02:33It was like the quarterback position battle that nobody wants.
02:37And then he said...
02:38And then the first line of the story said,
02:41in what seems like more of a threat than an actual report.
02:46I thought, oh, my God, here we go.
02:49Well, I think there's some soft...
02:50There's also, too, like, you've got to soften up the ground with this as well.
02:54We all remember what the scene was like after he ruptured his Achilles.
03:00The smattering of boo-birds throughout the stadium was not a great scene by any stretch of the imagination.
03:06I know there was a lot of conversation about the appropriateness of some of the fan reaction.
03:11I think I would say it was more so a vocal minority than a majority of the stadium.
03:15But it was noticeable.
03:16So, it did become a story.
03:18So, I do think that there's a little bit of a softening of the ground.
03:21Again, I've been trying to prepare people for this eventuality.
03:23I do think he's going to win the job.
03:25If he's healthy, he will be the week one starter.
03:27Do I think that's the right thing to do or the right path?
03:31Absolutely not.
03:32But I also understand why the Browns are doing it.
03:35I just don't have to agree with it.
03:37Might there be anybody else, or is this it?
03:40No, these are your four quarterbacks.
03:43Unless they find somebody, anybody, to take Dylan Gabriel for a couple of canisters of oxygen,
03:49I don't know if they're going to be making any changes.
03:53And Andrew Berry did say during his final NFL draft availability that these are the four quarterbacks.
04:00This is the quarterback room.
04:02But he gave himself the out.
04:03He didn't speak in an absolute.
04:05He said barring anything that would pop up.
04:07So, it's going to be Deshaun Watson, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, and then, of course, the kid they drafted from
04:17Arkansas in the sixth round.
04:19So, that's what they're going to do, at least right now, again, barring some sort of development, as in somebody
04:25actually wants Dylan Gabriel.
04:27All right.
04:27I'm not trying to cause a fight here.
04:29I thought Dan brought up a good question yesterday when he was talking to Jeff as I was listening.
04:33Could the Browns be showcasing Deshaun Watson right now, showing that he's healthy, to see if there's any teams that
04:40might be interested in him?
04:41They can't trade him yet.
04:42After June 1st.
04:44After June 1st, sorry.
04:45Yeah, they can't trade him.
04:46No, but they could cut him.
04:48I don't know that they can do that either.
04:50They can't.
04:50The cut is going to be post-June 1 for next year.
04:53Like, that's their off-ramp to this thing, because they still have to spread his remaining cap charge.
05:00They've got to swallow a cap charge this year.
05:01I forget what the number is, but it's pretty sizable.
05:04Then they've got to get next year's, which is also massive, get that cut in half.
05:09He's not going to come off the salary cap books until 2028.
05:13So, you know, I'm sure there's a way they'd have to open up a tremendous amount of salary cap space
05:22to get rid of him.
05:24This year?
05:24Yeah.
05:25Okay.
05:25And I don't know that if you do that, and you're really trying to win football games this fall, I
05:32don't think you can do both.
05:33Are they trying to win football games this fall?
05:35Yeah.
05:35I'm not going to lie.
05:36Yeah.
05:37I mean, look at the draft they had.
05:38I agree, but you got...
05:40Andy, they're going to win eight games this year.
05:41You know that, right?
05:43You're guaranteeing eight wins, at least eight wins.
05:45I'm not guaranteeing anything.
05:46Well, you just told me they're going to win eight games.
05:47That's a guarantee.
05:48That's not a guarantee.
05:49That is a Daryl Ryder guarantee.
05:51He's just throwing out some thoughts.
05:53No, that smelled like a guarantee.
05:55That's not a guarantee.
05:56I said to you, are they trying to win this year?
05:58Can we play that back, Dan, please?
06:01And you said, they're going to win eight games this year.
06:03They're going to win eight games this year.
06:04That's my belief.
06:05I believe that they're a much better football team than they were a year ago.
06:08So, they felt internally they could have or should have won seven or eight games despite
06:14having an offense averaging 16.4 points per game.
06:17Okay?
06:18So, the water in Berea is a little tainted?
06:21Well, there's a little Kool-Aid in there.
06:23Okay.
06:23It might be a little orange and brown colored there.
06:25But, you know, they should be thinking in those terms.
06:28What?
06:28Are they supposed to be thinking the other way, right?
06:31We're the ones thinking the other way.
06:32I don't think so.
06:33By the way, eight wins is under .500.
06:35So, I'm not – like, if you're –
06:36Eight wins, though, is a dramatic step forward.
06:39Keep that in mind as well.
06:40It's another three.
06:41Okay?
06:41It means your special teams didn't screw up three games then, right?
06:45Yeah.
06:45Your special teams did their job in three games?
06:47Is that asking too much?
06:48Yeah.
06:49They should be able to win the games that they should have won last year but lost.
06:53And there's three of those on the schedule.
06:55And they should have significantly better talent on the offensive side of the ball.
06:58Not only that, but, I mean, you'll look at the schedule this year and some of the opponents.
07:03There should be some winnable games there if they're healthy and they have the pieces and parts available to them.
07:10But, you know, if this draft class, Casey Concepcion, Denzel Boston, Fanon, like, if they can come in and Emmanuel
07:21McNeil-Warren,
07:22like, if those four guys can come in and be productive and be significant contributors, yeah, this is a much
07:30better football team than it was last year.
07:31So, yeah, I don't think – now, do I think – am I going to do – am I going
07:36to go as far as maybe Nick Wilson has said and he thinks they're going to make the playoffs?
07:40I mean, Mack Robinson said the other day, and I suggested he get drug tested for it, but he said
07:45he thinks the Browns can be a top three seed in the AFC and win, like, 12, 13 games.
07:49I think he's off his rocker, but, hey, I mean, everyone's drunk on the draft.
07:52It was that good.
07:53On paper.
07:54Yeah.
07:55On paper.
07:55I agree.
07:56I thought it was outstanding.
07:57I think that if you can turn the page after Thanksgiving and be in the hunt, you've been successful.
08:03Yeah, don't be –
08:04That's a successful season for this.
08:05Don't be eliminated by November 1st, right?
08:07Or December 1st.
08:08December 1st.
08:09No, November.
08:10Like, I mean –
08:10Come on, really?
08:11Yeah, they've been out of it the last couple of years by November.
08:14Like, you know, I mean, there was – when November got here, there was really no hope.
08:18Like, you just want to at least have some hope.
08:21I don't have –
08:22But we got to follow Miles Garrett and see if he was going to break the sack record.
08:25Okay, great.
08:26I mean, that was our Super Bowl last year.
08:27Great.
08:28And good for Miles, and that's great for the Browns as a franchise to have the all-time single-season
08:34sack record holder.
08:35Okay, fantastic.
08:36But what did you win?
08:37Nothing.
08:37So, you know, in the grand – when you look at the big picture, it doesn't matter.
08:41In, you know, when you zoom in, yeah, it does have significance and it matters, but big picture winning and
08:49losing games, it just really did not have –
08:51Remember, he had, what, six sacks against the Patriots and they lost by 30?
08:56Right?
08:57I mean, think about that.
08:59One of the most dominating performances in a game that you will ever see, and you are non-competitive in
09:06that game.
09:07Spencer Fano, from all accounts, was their number one target.
09:11A, do you believe that?
09:13And B, how does this offensive line now shake out?
09:18Who do you see where?
09:20And Parker Burlington from Alabama, do you think he could really start at center, which would free up Elton Jenkins
09:26to go to right guard?
09:26Yeah, I do think that, you know, you hope to get lucky there with him if he can start as
09:33a rookie, and he's what, fifth-round pick?
09:35It was a fifth-rounder, about the same size as Tyler Linderbaum coming out, actually.
09:39Yeah, so if you can get him to be able to start, and you don't have to move Elton Jenkins
09:47to center, like, that's –
09:49That's a better-looking line.
09:50That's a major, major bonus, but, you know, Titus Howard, there was some conversation that they might move him to
09:57left tackle if they weren't able to fill that spot in the draft.
10:00That happened, okay, so Feneau is the left tackle.
10:03They have been very clear in saying they are going to park him at left tackle.
10:07Which I like, by the way.
10:08Right.
10:08I'm glad they said that.
10:09Right now, I think Tevin Jenkins is your right tackle – or right guard, I should say, for now.
10:15He's the guy who could bounce out of that starting line.
10:17Well, Elton Jenkins, I would put him at center right now just because he's the veteran, and then if you
10:24can move him, you do, and then, you know, Zion Johnson at left guard, and then Feneau at left tackle.
10:30But, see, what you saw with this line this offseason, Jeff, and how they constructed it, and I know you
10:36guys have talked extensively about it, is versatility.
10:39They can move all these guys around.
10:42I think what's so great about the Feneau pick is, okay, let's go glass half empty here and say he's
10:49not a left tackle.
10:50That part of it doesn't work out.
10:53Well, he is talented enough and versatile enough.
10:55You can put him somewhere else on the offensive line, and that doesn't become a sunk cost of a first
11:00-round draft pick like Jed Wills was.
11:02Right?
11:02And so, that's the good thing.
11:04You can still get something out of that pick, but versatility, all these guys, Titus Howard, Jenkins, like, all these
11:11guys they brought in this offseason can play multiple positions on the offensive line.
11:14And I think that also, too, and Andrew Berry talked about this because I did ask him about it during
11:19draft weekend.
11:20You know, he wants guys that can play two or more positions on the line because we saw in the
11:26last two years what has happened when they don't have enough of those players with those capabilities.
11:30And that's not their fault.
11:32Well, I mean, they can't help it when guys are getting hurt, right?
11:35But, I mean, it was a merry-go-round last year.
11:37It tackled both when it came to injuries as well as the guys that they put out there, KT Leveston.
11:42Sorry, bud.
11:44That's what the situation was.
11:46So, versatility was very, very important for them this offseason when it came to fill in the offensive line.
11:51DeJuan Jones, does he have a future here?
11:53Yeah, I don't.
11:55It's hard to say.
11:57You've got to get healthy first, right?
11:58We know the physical tools are there, the physical gifts are there.
12:01But, I mean, injuries do take their toll.
12:03So, can he look like the player he looked like for that stretch of games before he got hurt as
12:09a rookie?
12:09Because I would argue during that time he was the best left tackle, in my view, in the NFL.
12:19Then the injury bug hit.
12:21And he's never recovered from that.
12:23And there have been further injuries.
12:25So, I don't think that they're counting on that.
12:29Clearly, they're not.
12:30They drafted Spencer for no.
12:32But, you know.
12:33You could always move him to right tackle in a year or so.
12:36You know, if you want to move on from Titus Howard.
12:38Yeah, I mean, they did make a significant...
12:40Not only did they trade for Titus Howard.
12:42Gave him a lot of money.
12:43They gave him a nice contract.
12:4563 million, 40 guaranteed, something like that.
12:47It's good money if you can get it.
12:48Learn how to block, kids.
12:50Learn how to throw a baseball.
12:52Hit a baseball.
12:53And learn how to block.
12:54Darrell, who was your favorite pick in this last draft?
12:56Like, who was the guy you think has...
12:57McNeil Warren.
12:59No question?
13:00Mostly because I didn't think there was any chance they could get it.
13:03It was interesting on our Tuesday night Browns offseason special that we did.
13:07We talked a lot about, as you can imagine, for weeks and weeks and weeks,
13:12the various names that could end up is Cleveland Browns.
13:15Oh, you said this?
13:16You must have predicted it.
13:17No, this was...
13:18He was in some mocks coming to the Browns at 24.
13:21Yeah.
13:22But the point is, the four guys they picked are all four guys that we said the Browns
13:28should take in the first round.
13:30Okay?
13:31Any combination of those four guys, they should walk away with in the first round.
13:36Casey Concepcion, I think everyone in their final mock drafts had him mocked to the Browns.
13:40So that must have been a worst-kept secret there.
13:44But, you know...
13:45It's okay.
13:45They did their job.
13:46I think there's been a lot of years we thought they didn't do their job.
13:49No, Andy, there's no complaints about this draft.
13:51Like, this is a rarity for me to be able to sit in here and we're talking Browns football
13:54and we're talking about the draft.
13:55And I have nothing to complain about.
13:56I mean, everything they did makes sense.
13:58Everything they did, you hope, works.
14:02And if it works, this team is going to become a contender faster than a lot of folks externally
14:10think that they will.
14:11All right.
14:11Speaking of complaining about, I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people complaining
14:16about what's happening today for the Browns.
14:18All the bigwigs are in town today.
14:20Very excited about that.
14:21Daryl is dressed up.
14:22I didn't even know you owned a button-down shirt, but yet it comes out of the mothballs
14:26today and you're able to wear that as you're able to head out to the new Cleveland Browns
14:34stadium.
14:34And just your thoughts on the groundbreaking today and what we're actually watching after
14:38years of talking about it.
14:40Yeah.
14:41I mean, this is pretty much a decade in the making almost, going back to when they, after
14:47the Haslams bought the team.
14:48Jeff and I will tell you 15 years because we've been asking for it since the day we got
14:52on the air.
14:52Yeah.
14:52Well, when the Haslams renovated that building and Joe Banner put that whole project together
14:57for them.
14:59But no, the governor will be in town, Mike DeWine, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is
15:04going to be on hand for this thing.
15:05We'll hear from all of them at some point today, I'm sure.
15:10But yeah, I mean, this has been a long time coming.
15:12It's been a long process to get this done when they finally, not only to get to settling
15:16on that particular site in Brook Park, but to, you know, get, get the financing together.
15:22The Haslams have upped their investment 1.75 plus billion dollars just for the stadium.
15:29That doesn't include the development that's going to be next to it and privately funded,
15:34but also to, you know, they're going to be covering the cost overruns with that project
15:38as well.
15:39And let's be honest about it.
15:39The next thing that gets built on budget will be the first.
15:43They're usually, they're usually built on time.
15:45I'll tell you this.
15:45You know, what's weird when private money, when there's a lot of private money into these,
15:49these projects, they tend to get built on time.
15:52You know, for me, there's no doubt that they're going to get it.
15:55So nationwide, like nationwide arena, when it was publicly funded, they were talking about
15:58it being, it would have taken forever.
15:59But once they, uh, the McConnells and all the other groups that were down in Columbus at
16:04the time decided they were going to privately fund it, boom, got done ahead of time.
16:09And, uh, you know, ticket prices were a little bit higher because they paid for it.
16:12Yeah.
16:12Well, uh, look at how long it took gateway to get built here.
16:15Right.
16:15You know, when the Indians in the late 80s were looking for a ballpark.
16:19Yeah.
16:19It made it by like 1% of the vote.
16:21I mean, it barely got through, but yeah.
16:23So it'll be a, be a nice event.
16:25Uh, I know obviously the, the Browns are pretty fired up about it.
16:28Browns ownership.
16:30Um, and you know, I'm interested to hear a little more because the NFL tends to reward cities with
16:37new, with new stadiums.
16:39Okay.
16:39And I heard David Jenkins on with Anthony and Ken this morning, uh, president has some
16:44sports group, uh, about the, the prospects of a super bowl.
16:47All I'm going to say this, if Jacksonville can host a super bowl, we can host a super
16:51bowl.
16:52Okay.
16:53You know, they're busting people, the, the, the last super bowl in Santa Clara this year,
16:57they were busting people an hour and 20 minutes away from the stadium.
17:01If you draw an hour and 20 minutes away from Cleveland, Ohio, you're getting outside of
17:05Sandusky to the West.
17:06It's you're getting South of Canton.
17:08You're getting down by Youngstown.
17:10Like it's Republican convention.
17:11No, I understand that too.
17:13Like, so, you know, I think collectively as a region, we can pull this thing off.
17:17I don't know that they need to build a bunch of five-star hotels.
17:20We've got some pretty nice hotels here, but maybe just not the quantity that they want.
17:24But I think that there's a way to pull it off.
17:25Also too, maybe we get a draft back because we got short change coming out of COVID.
17:31All right.
17:31Ask about that today.
17:32Ask him for you.
17:32That's all right.
17:33You know what?
17:33Just text me a list of questions you want me to ask today and I'll see if I can squeeze
17:37him in.
17:37Oh, no, nice.
17:39All right, Daryl.
17:39He's finally working for us.
17:41I see.
17:41Now you, you know where your loyalty is.
17:43You know what?
17:43It's a highlight of my career, Andy, not to work with you, but to work for you.
17:47That's right.
17:4810 to 2, Daryl Ryder works for us.
17:50Working for you.
17:51That might be our new slogan.
17:52Thank you, Daryl Ryder.
17:52You bet, guys.
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