Roberto Klinger, noto diabetologo e medico sociale della "Grande Inter" di Helenio Herrera, ha 67 anni quando viene freddato a colpi di pistola sotto casa sua a Milano. Le prime indagini si concentrano su un altro medico, tale Alessandro Luca Pieretti, che in qualità di paziente aveva avuto dei problemi con la clinica nella quale Klinger lavorava. Pieretti, che soffre di disturbi della personalità, viene indagato. Nel 1995 però, grazie a un bravo avvocato e ad un alibi che sembra consolidato, viene prosciolto. Tante le teorie e le ipotesi, ma l'unica cosa certa è che, ad oggi, quello del medico della "Grande Inter" resta un delitto irrisolto. Le indagini di questo complesso caso di cronaca nera attraverso il racconto del Vice Questore della Polizia di Stato, la dottoressa Pamela Franconieri. In studio, per l'analisi del caso dal punto di vista psicologico e sociologico, la Professoressa Annamaria Giannini e il Professor Arije Antinori.
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00:08Roberto Kringer is a 67 year old man, he is an internationally renowned doctor, but above all
00:15he was the doctor of the great Inter and of Cantù basketball.
00:23For everyone, he's the professor. It's 1992, a year that turned Italy upside down. The story
00:32What I'm going to tell you is the story of a man and his tragic fate. But it's also a true
00:40and it's a real mystery. Who killed Roberto Kringer?
01:08Good evening and welcome to Detective. Detective is the RAI program produced in collaboration with
01:14with the State Police reporting on solved and unsolved crimes. This evening's crime
01:20It's the story of an unsolved crime. It's the story of a man, a father,
01:26a respectable doctor who one morning 32 years ago leaves home to go to work in
01:34a special day, February 18, 1992. This evening they will help us understand better
01:44This story is about two professionals. Professor Anna Maia Giannini, good evening, Professor.
01:52Good evening.
01:52And Professor Arige Antinori.
01:55Good evening.
01:56So, we're in Milan and it's a February that seems apparently quiet. Do you remember?
02:05the date I told you before? Now you will remember how important that date is for our country.
02:14date.
02:21He was reportedly arrested in flagrante delicto while withdrawing a periodic installment of money.
02:26from an entrepreneur who owns a cleaning company.
02:28On the morning of February 18, 1992, the newspapers came out with a story that would
02:37Italy changed. It was the news of the arrest of Mario Chiesa, the president of the most important hotel
02:48Trivulzio and Milanese known as Baggina. The investigation, coordinated by the deputy prosecutor of the
02:55Republic Antonio Di Pietro, had left, explained this morning the head of the prosecutor's office
02:59Milanese Borrelli, following a very recent complaint against the same
03:05Church.
03:06This arrest will start the season of Tangentopoli and Mani Pulite and therefore even
03:14to a political change from the First to the Second Republic.
03:22Professor Roberto Klinger lives in Porta Romana, at Via Muratori 29.
03:29On the morning of February 18, 1992, he leaves home to get into his light blue Panda
03:37and go, as he did every day, to work at the San Pio X clinic, the one run by the Camigliani fathers.
03:45We talked about the arrest of the socialist Mario Chiesa and the outbreak of Tangentopoli.
03:51Professor Klinger will not have time to read the news in the newspapers.
04:02I was in the hospital and quite early in the morning I received a phone call from my wife
04:09who told me that the police were looking for me for something concerning my father.
04:17When we arrived there was this car, a Panda, which was parked on a sidewalk,
04:25a block away from the building where the professor lived.
04:30He barely has time to sit in the driver's seat and he hasn't even closed the door yet,
04:37still the left leg out of the door with the foot on the pavement.
04:44When he is hit by three bullets, two in the temple, one in the chest.
04:50The victim, Professor Roberto Klinger, head of the diabetology department at the Pio X clinic.
04:56I rushed home to try to understand what had happened, the story and then the news.
05:07This evening here on Detective, good evening, we have Dr. Pamela Franconieri.
05:15She works at the SCO, the central operations service, and deals with crimes against persons.
05:21When these crimes are ancient, as this crime is ancient,
05:27well, his office changes its name and becomes UDI, unit, crimes, unsolved.
05:36This man, Roberto Klinger, was killed under his home,
05:41but above all this man has a particular, prestigious past.
05:56Roberto Klinger, in the 1960s, was the doctor of the great Inter of Moratti and Herrera.
06:06Inter Milan, winner of the ninth edition of the Champions Cup.
06:16At that time, Inter was already creating a club that had to become a little more modern, even from a medical perspective,
06:25and then he came to make the footballer's nutrition more scientific.
06:32Then a very friendly, very nice relationship was created,
06:38also because Dr. Klinger was a very affable person, very kind, very precise, very professional.
06:52Loved by its president, who was Angelo Moratti, and carrying many memories of him,
06:57we have cups, cups, medals, watches at home,
07:00that the president gave to everyone without distinction,
07:04but up to the masseurs, I think of the warehouse workers.
07:07That is, the great Inter was truly a cohesive group.
07:10I knew the Klinger family well, I knew Roberto well.
07:15The VIP doctor was not at all like the newspapers wrote,
07:19because he also cared for many poor people with a humanitarian spirit,
07:24without any profit motive, with generosity.
07:29It was the first company that managed itself so well.
07:32The results rewarded Moratti and dad,
07:35because they have proven themselves by winning Scudetti, Champions Cups, and Trecontinental Cups.
07:42In addition to being the doctor of the great Inter,
07:45he was also the nutritionist for Cantù basketball.
07:50With 36 seconds left, Martorati crosses half court.
07:54So, Roberto Klinger from Cantù arrived in 68,
07:57I think it was precisely on this occasion, just before the first Scudetto.
08:00We have competed at European level,
08:03winning four Cup Winners' Cups, four Courage Cups,
08:06two Intercontinental Cups and two European Cups.
08:14He was a bit of, let's say, an internist,
08:18he also devoted himself above all to nutrition,
08:20It wasn't the doctor, it was our dad.
08:29Dr. Franconieri, where do we want to start?
08:32Well, let's immerse ourselves in the investigative reality of the time.
08:35There are very few cameras on city streets
08:38and in the case of the professor, around the crime scene,
08:43there is nothing, there is not even a video recording.
08:46There are no cell phones today that tell us where people are.
08:51and then we focus on the scientific findings.
08:56Here, let's start with the modality.
08:59What comes out?
09:01It is a very violent, direct attack
09:04and investigators do not exclude that it could have been a robbery,
09:09initially, but from a careful reconnaissance
09:11of what's in the professor's car,
09:15it is clear that nothing was removed,
09:18His wallet is still there, his notes are still there.
09:21So what do his colleagues at the time do?
09:25We start from the road,
09:27we try to understand if someone saw or heard something.
09:31We go door to door
09:33and some witnesses come out,
09:37but not directed by the murder,
09:38No one saw who shot Klinger.
09:42There are two students
09:44who are going to school
09:46who say that after the shots
09:48they saw him go away
09:50from the car
09:52on which the professor was found
09:56a young man, they describe him like this,
09:59tall, about six feet tall,
10:02with curly hair,
10:04maybe with gel on your hair,
10:06who wore a brown or green coat.
10:11Then there's another girl,
10:13she is a student, a university student.
10:15She sees a person
10:17that moves away quickly
10:19from the crime scene,
10:21as if he were running away.
10:23And he describes him as a man,
10:26a little less tall,
10:29about one meter and seventy-five,
10:31and he was wearing a coat too,
10:34a dark jacket.
10:35Thirty years later,
10:37these remain the only testimonies
10:40of that morning.
10:42How come a person like Klinger,
10:45who they tell us had no enemies,
10:50was she killed in this way?
11:00Investigators say that usually
11:02to every investigation
11:03something about the victims comes out,
11:07a little skeleton in the closet
11:09everyone has it.
11:10Professor Roberto Klinger no.
11:15There could only have been an exchange of people.
11:19Actually, some people were found
11:23who lived in the same neighborhood
11:25who could resemble the professor
11:28and that they might have had some problems
11:33instead with crime.
11:38The cleaning lady told the investigators
11:42who he often met on the street
11:44this gentleman magistrate
11:46and that he mistook him for the professor when greeting him.
11:51Only then he realized
11:53that the professor had already left the house
11:55for at least an hour.
11:59The investigators contacted him
12:02and in their opinion
12:05he didn't look like Professor Klinger
12:09and also he had some timetables
12:11not compatible with those of the professor.
12:17Professor Giannini
12:19in an investigation it is of fundamental importance
12:23understand who the victim is.
12:28Technically in the investigations
12:29it is absolutely essential
12:31explore the victim's life
12:32to delve deeper into the victimological perspective
12:35to trace those elements
12:37that can shed light
12:38precisely on the dynamics.
12:40In this case we have seen
12:42that he is an irreproachable person
12:44who has a family life
12:46full of affection
12:47highly appreciated in the workplace
12:50and there is even an element
12:52in which it could be considered
12:53that he had a so-called double
12:55which was later seen not to be the case
12:57precisely in the depth
12:59of all aspects
13:00which concerned his private life.
13:02Meanwhile, however, the pain of the loss
13:04It's impossible to explain the professor's
13:07just as the embrace is infinite
13:10that Milan has in store for him
13:11on the day of his funeral.
13:18I went to pick up dad
13:20with amber
13:21and once assisted dad
13:24with the funeral
13:25I brought him back to church
13:26coming with him
13:27and it had struck me
13:29this multitude of people
13:31which seems to have already happened
13:33to attend funerals
13:34of important people.
13:40it's true there were the Inter champions
13:42but beyond the champions
13:43there was a sad atmosphere
13:46because he had no differences
13:49between the champion and the last to arrive.
13:52I remember the applause
13:54at my dad's bar
13:55which has become innovative
13:56almost a frequent thing
13:59the fact that a bar comes out
14:00of a person perhaps much loved
14:02and that it be applauded
14:04from those who are in the square.
14:09Doctor
14:10in the following days
14:13how far have they come?
14:15his colleagues
14:16in the investigations?
14:17At this point you need to concentrate
14:19on the framework of relations
14:21personal and professional
14:23of the professor
14:23who had it in for him?
14:26In those days
14:28immediately following the crime
14:30to the Milan editorial team
14:31from the Corriere della Sera
14:32and to the Anza Agency
14:34a resale is coming
14:36of the indication of the murder.
14:44one of the oddities of this story
14:46it is also the fact that
14:47in the Klinger murder
14:49the armed phalanx appears
14:51with a phone call
14:53to the newspapers
14:54a couple of days later
14:56from the murder
14:57making a bizarre reference
15:00to the Lombard League
15:01with which precisely
15:02Professor Klinger
15:04he had no contact whatsoever
15:06and also a flyer
15:08which had been sent
15:10to newspaper editorial offices
15:16a man with a northern accent
15:19he would have said
15:19the execution
15:20by Professor Klinger
15:22it didn't happen
15:23nor by chance
15:23nor by mistake
15:24we pass by
15:25this part
15:27of the investigation
15:28at DICOS
15:29that not
15:29which did not achieve results
15:36well yes
15:37I'm starting to talk
15:38of armed phalanx
15:39the armed phalanx
15:41it's an organization
15:42terrorist
15:43which is active
15:45in Italy
15:45in the 90s
15:47doctor
15:48Franconiers
15:49it's credible
15:50this track
15:51what they discover
15:52his colleagues
15:53the DICOS
15:54gives us back
15:55of information
15:56that make us understand
15:57that the track
15:58it's not the right one
15:59Why
15:59because the professor
16:02he doesn't have
16:03contingencies
16:04with political circles
16:05and also
16:07in a flyer
16:08of claim
16:09emerge
16:10to the eye
16:10two gross errors
16:12the first
16:14That
16:14he comes
16:16pointed out
16:16the professor
16:17as neighbor
16:17to the Lombard League
16:19but we are in 92
16:20in 92
16:21it's now
16:22Northern League
16:23and then there is
16:24another mistake
16:25more coarse
16:26it is done
16:28the name
16:28on the flyer
16:29by Michele Serra
16:31probably
16:32confused
16:33with the ex
16:34Police Chief of Milan
16:35Achille Serra
16:37Michael Serra
16:38he is a journalist
16:39While
16:40Achille Serra
16:42he was a great policeman
16:44about this
16:45I wait
16:45that of the armed phalanx
16:47let's go from
16:48our experts
16:50Exactly
16:51from
16:51Arigia Antinori
16:55Professor Antinori
16:57what is it
16:58this
16:59armed phalanx
17:00the armed phalanx
17:02constitutes one
17:02of the darkest moments
17:04of history
17:04of our Republic
17:05as
17:06project
17:07subversive
17:08of the order
17:08democratic
17:10operationally
17:11active
17:12between 90
17:13and the 94
17:1595
17:15in particular
17:16with
17:17an intense
17:18activity
17:19of claim
17:20both in the middle
17:21telephone
17:22that through
17:23flyer
17:23I would like to clarify
17:25as far as
17:25concerns
17:26communication
17:27strategic
17:27of these
17:28entity
17:29and in particular
17:30the document
17:31of claim
17:32of the murder
17:32Klinger
17:33that beyond
17:34of the obvious
17:36errors
17:36already underlined
17:37it does not emerge
17:39that it is
17:40online
17:41or compliant
17:42with the previous ones
17:43documents
17:44considering the fact
17:45which appears
17:46a document
17:47of claim
17:47absolutely isolated
17:49while a peculiarity
17:50of the group itself
17:51that's it
17:52to proceed
17:53in a way
17:53serialized
17:55through
17:55the claim
17:56but there is
17:57another blow
17:58on stage
17:58jump out
18:00that a month
18:01before the crime
18:02it happened
18:03something
18:03very special
18:11a month
18:13Before
18:13of the murder
18:14of the professor
18:15Klinger
18:16a person
18:18she had introduced herself
18:19in the study
18:20where they worked
18:21both Roberto Klinger
18:23that his son Marco
18:24and he had asked
18:25of the professor
18:29the professor wasn't there
18:31this person
18:32suddenly
18:33he took out
18:33a gun
18:34and churches
18:36some money
18:40I had opened
18:42my door
18:42because I had heard
18:43suddenly
18:44from Borussia
18:44what was there before
18:45silence
18:46who was a person
18:47army
18:49I took the wallet
18:50how maybe
18:50this person
18:51instead it was expected
18:52I supported it
18:53on the table
18:54he took it
18:55and he went away
19:00at the moment
19:01they thought
19:02that it was
19:03a robbery
19:05but in the light
19:06of that
19:07what happened
19:08After
19:08certainly an episode
19:09quite disturbing
19:11and which poses
19:12some questions
19:13who was this person
19:14why she showed up
19:15with a gun
19:16and above all
19:16because he was looking for
19:17Professor Klinger
19:21I had called
19:23my father
19:23to tell him
19:24what had happened
19:25it hadn't been for me
19:26worried
19:27not at all
19:27according to investigators
19:28could be
19:29also been
19:29a first attempt
19:30to kill
19:31Professor Klinger
19:40this robbery
19:42simply
19:43a robbery
19:45any
19:45or
19:46it's a bit
19:48the preview
19:49of that
19:50which would be
19:50success
19:51after a little while
19:52Well
19:53Surely
19:54it's a fact
19:56to be analyzed
19:58and to be understood well
19:59Klinger
20:01he wasn't worried
20:02he had not shown himself
20:03worried
20:04of that event
20:05but maybe
20:06it was not to
20:07worry
20:07his family
20:08or maybe
20:09he had no idea
20:10of who it could be
20:12for sure
20:14the doubt
20:15that that attempt
20:16could be
20:18the first attempt
20:20to kill Klinger
20:22stay
20:23this robbery
20:24it's the first
20:27significant
20:29peculiarity
20:31of this investigation
20:32but really
20:33in this context
20:36it also emerges
20:37another
20:38particular
20:39important
20:40what is discovered?
20:42in research
20:43of the context
20:45where he lived
20:46Klinger
20:47are analyzed
20:47his things
20:48his cards
20:49is found
20:50at home
20:51a letter
20:52it's a letter
20:54very particular
20:55that the investigators
20:56they look
20:57with absolute
20:57Attention
20:58and it is
20:59the letter
21:00of a person
21:01who asks
21:02to the professor
21:03to testify
21:04in a lawsuit
21:05you can read us
21:06what is written
21:07in this letter?
21:08the letter says this
21:10you won't let me lose
21:13the possibility
21:14to be compensated
21:16I will be there
21:17to listen
21:18what you will say
21:19inside you
21:20there will be pleasure
21:21of having done
21:22you too justice
21:23a pleasure
21:24that will last you
21:25all my life
21:26they are particular words
21:29We see
21:30the video
21:40and it was the request
21:41a testimony
21:42my father
21:43not for a question
21:44of life or death
21:45I remember
21:46but for something
21:47that somehow
21:48could put
21:48a little in difficulty
21:49Pope
21:50as if he forced him
21:51to say something
21:52on the contrary
21:53to what they thought
21:54of the other colleagues
21:55which he was fond of
21:56rather than not
21:57the same structure
21:58who he worked for
22:01in a week
22:03from the Klinger murder
22:05he introduces himself
22:06at the police station
22:06a colleague
22:08of the professor
22:09the psychiatrist
22:10Zarattini
22:11which had been
22:12on a skiing holiday
22:13and then
22:14he didn't have
22:15Understood
22:16what had happened
22:19he says I know
22:20who killed
22:21Klinger
22:22he killed him
22:25Dr. Piretti
22:28Luca
22:33Doctor
22:34to things
22:35they start to move
22:36in a manner
22:37also important
22:39when it is heard
22:41Franco Zarattini
22:42what does he say
22:44Exactly
22:45to his colleagues?
22:47Franco Zarattini
22:48he is the director
22:49of Pius X
22:50which is the clinic
22:51where Klinger worked
22:52so friend
22:53and collaborator
22:54by Klinger
22:55what does he say?
22:57Explain that
22:58Alessandro Luca
23:00Pieretti
23:00an orthopedist
23:02that both
23:03they knew
23:04and that at that moment
23:05at that time
23:06worked at the CTO
23:08had attempted
23:09a cause
23:10against the clinic
23:11Pius X
23:12Why?
23:13because according to him
23:14he had been treated
23:15in an inadequate manner
23:16inappropriate
23:17had reported
23:18of the damages
23:18and then he asked
23:20a compensation
23:21with a civil suit
23:22of as much as 3 billion lire
23:24and wanted Professor Klinger
23:26he went to testify
23:28in court
23:29for him
23:29At that time
23:30this Alessandro Luca
23:32Pieretti
23:34he writes
23:35in that letter
23:36to Klinger
23:38a sentence
23:39of this tenor
23:40you won't do it to me
23:42LOSE
23:43the possibility
23:44to be
23:44compensated
23:47In short
23:48it's a sentence
23:49who says things
23:50he says things
23:51at this point
23:53but
23:53it's important
23:54know
23:54what intention
23:56what intention
23:58I had
23:58had Klinger
24:00would have testified
24:02we don't know
24:04if Professor Klinger
24:05would have testified
24:07or less
24:08in that process
24:09but it's clear
24:11That
24:12that letter
24:14and let's go back to that letter
24:15he says
24:17you
24:17you will come to testify
24:20it's like he's encouraging it
24:21somehow
24:21this situation
24:23can constitute
24:25the motive
24:26of this crime
24:28certainly
24:29a refusal
24:30on a cause
24:32attempted
24:33for 3 billion lire
24:34could be
24:36a good reason
24:37of resentment
24:39and then
24:40at this point
24:41you have to understand
24:42just one thing
24:43who is
24:44Alexander
24:45Luca Pieretti
24:47this big man
24:48middle aged
24:49high
24:501.90
24:51practically bald
24:52comes from the province
24:55but he moved
24:56in Milan
24:56pushed
24:57from many ambitions
24:59professional
25:04Dr. Pieretti
25:07was originally from
25:08from Suvereto
25:09the father
25:10he was the owner
25:11of the cinema
25:12from Suvereto
25:13and he
25:15study
25:16medicine
25:17the personality
25:20he was a personality
25:21of a man
25:22vement
25:22aggressive
25:24Certain
25:25verbally
25:26I'm talking
25:30I had become
25:32a doctor
25:32orthopedic
25:33to the CTO
25:34of Milan
25:34which is an institution
25:36Truly
25:36important
25:41at a certain point
25:43he started
25:44to give signs
25:45of imbalance
25:46and to have
25:47a breakdown
25:48nervous
25:51who knew him
25:53he was telling
25:54that this
25:55its
25:55oddity
25:57it had begun
25:58in the moment
25:59in which
25:59he had not succeeded
26:00to become
26:01primary
26:06At that time
26:07Pieretti
26:08has a personality
26:09aggressive
26:10and it is also
26:12a lover
26:13of weapons
26:14it turns out
26:15who has it
26:16registered
26:16about sixty
26:17not only
26:18frequents
26:20a polygon
26:21of shooting
26:21and then
26:22he also knows
26:23shoot
26:26doctor
26:27What
26:27they find
26:28his colleagues
26:29when they go
26:30to search
26:32his
26:32dwelling
26:33we are looking for
26:34immediately
26:34the weapons
26:35and the weapons
26:36they are not here
26:37Why
26:37they are not here
26:38Why
26:39I am
26:40already been
26:41seized
26:41time
26:43Before
26:43following
26:45of an episode
26:46in which
26:47Professor Pieretti
26:48I had
26:49threatened
26:50a woman
26:51in a park
26:51which gun
26:53I had
26:54killed
26:55Roberto Klinger
26:57what a model
26:58what caliber
26:59At that time
27:00on the scene
27:01of the crime
27:02we find
27:03the shells
27:06and the ammunition
27:08I am
27:08caliber
27:097.65
27:09Browning
27:10and I am
27:11compatible
27:12with
27:13a
27:14Beretta
27:15a
27:16Beretta
27:17or
27:18and they will tell us
27:19Then
27:19the various
27:21appraisals
27:21Also
27:22with a
27:23pistol
27:23Very
27:24particular
27:25which is a
27:25molgora
27:26which is a
27:27pistol
27:27toy
27:28that shoots
27:29blanks
27:30but what is it
27:30specially
27:32modified
27:33from someone
27:35who knows how to do it
27:36or who makes it happen
27:37can become
27:38a weapon
27:39lethal
27:40it can explode
27:40shots
27:40that kill
27:41there's more
27:43that you discover
27:43on this subject
27:44of erect
27:45look
27:47of the 61 weapons
27:49that he held
27:51legally
27:51is being rebuilt
27:53the path
27:54except for two
27:55a rifle
27:57and one
27:59Beretta
27:59a Beretta
28:00that could
28:02explode
28:02ammunition
28:04caliber
28:057.65
28:06on the weapon
28:07I say again
28:08This
28:08that of the
28:09Beretta
28:10the professor
28:12Pieretti
28:13when he feels like it
28:13asked
28:14he can't give
28:15an explanation
28:16of which one it is
28:17his current one
28:18destination
28:19and then
28:21at this point
28:22what remains
28:24to understand
28:25it's just
28:26one thing
28:27the alibi
28:28of this
28:30Dr. Pieretti
28:31where it was located
28:33in the morning
28:34of the murder
28:40at a certain point
28:41Dr. Pieretti
28:42is heard
28:44from the police
28:45who asks him
28:47where it was
28:47that day
28:48in which
28:49Professor Kling
28:50it had been
28:52killed
28:54him of course
28:56he said
28:56I was here
28:57to the hospital
28:58he showed him
28:58the card
28:59of work
29:00regularly
29:01stamped
29:06Therefore
29:06the investigators
29:07they went away
29:08and the next day
29:10Dr. Pieretti
29:12he introduces himself
29:13from the police
29:14saying
29:14I was wrong
29:15I told you
29:16a lie
29:17actually
29:17I went out yesterday
29:19I have not been
29:21at work
29:21I went
29:22to defend
29:23the mother
29:25of my girlfriend
29:26in the tax commission
29:28and then
29:29change
29:30the alibi
29:33the girlfriend
29:35he says it's true
29:36that they had
29:36an appointment
29:37at 8 in the morning
29:39to then go
29:39in the tax commission
29:42the mother
29:43of the girlfriend
29:44Instead
29:44says something completely different
29:46says that Pieretti
29:47he doesn't see it
29:48for at least a year
29:48that would never be the case
29:49came to mind
29:50to take it with you
29:52for a matter
29:53of his money
29:54and that therefore
29:56that morning
29:57of the crime
29:58absolutely
29:59he didn't see Pieretti
30:05In short
30:06the position
30:07by Pieretti
30:08becomes
30:08a little more complicated
30:10a little more difficult
30:11our orthopedist
30:13he has no alibi
30:14Well
30:16the alibi
30:17actually
30:18at the start
30:18it's shaky
30:19but there is another
30:20plot twist
30:21in this story
30:22some time later
30:24the mother-in-law
30:25retrace his steps
30:27and he remembers
30:28suddenly
30:29that day
30:30the day of the murder
30:32actually
30:33Pieretti
30:34he accompanied her
30:35in the tax commission
30:37Pieretti defends himself
30:39how can it
30:40but the doubts
30:41of the investigators
30:42and the judiciary
30:43remain
30:43that's the track
30:46to the state
30:47of the investigations
30:49after a while
30:50it comes out
30:51a new testimony
30:52that we consider
30:54very relevant
30:55it is the testimony
30:56of a salomier
30:57working
30:58in a supermarket
30:59of Porta Romana
31:00which is the neighborhood
31:02where he lived
31:02Professor Klinger
31:03this salomiere
31:05he's going to tell
31:07to the investigators
31:08That
31:09days before
31:10of the murder
31:11he had noticed
31:12a man
31:13very tall
31:15bald
31:16to stop
31:18insistently
31:20nearby
31:22of the house
31:23by Professor Klinger
31:24as if he were lying in wait
31:27the salomiere
31:28is brought
31:29at the police station
31:29is shown to him
31:31the photography
31:31of Pieretti
31:32and recognizes it
31:34like the man on the lookout
31:35and will confirm
31:37this thing
31:38Also
31:40to a comparison
31:41direct
31:42that is done
31:42right with the figure
31:43of Pieretti
31:44which is conducted
31:44at the police station
31:45me at this point
31:47I ask again
31:48help
31:49to our experts
31:55At that time
31:59Professor Giannini
32:01I don't hide them
32:03that are enough
32:04curious
32:05interested
32:06to know
32:06the profile
32:08that she
32:10from
32:11of this person
32:12this Pieretti
32:13this orthopedic surgeon
32:15it was done
32:16an expert opinion
32:17in-depth
32:18which gives us back
32:19the painting
32:19of a person
32:20with a certain dose
32:22of aggression
32:23very interested
32:24to arms
32:24moreover
32:25he had suffered
32:26a strong disappointment
32:28professional
32:29and often
32:30frustrations
32:31very intense
32:31in paintings
32:32personological
32:33of this kind
32:34they even increase
32:35the share
32:36of aggression
32:37that the person
32:38can provide
32:39towards the outside
32:40in various ways
32:41but it must be said
32:42that this
32:43it doesn't match
32:44automatically
32:45with a conclusion
32:47let it go
32:48in the direction
32:49univocal
32:50of the fact
32:50that it may be
32:51it was him
32:51to kill
32:52even the ideas
32:53paranoid
32:54that come
32:55highlighted
32:55in the expertise
32:56they tell us
32:57what can there be
32:57a compatibility
32:58but surely
33:00we can't
33:00automatically close
33:02that it is him
33:02the perpetrator of the crime
33:03at the time of the facts
33:06but the testimony
33:07of the saluniere
33:09it seems to be
33:11extremely
33:12important
33:14and even
33:18leads
33:19to an action
33:22specification
33:23by
33:23of the public
33:24of the public
33:25ministry
33:25What
33:26decides to do
33:28the doctor
33:29Claudio Gittardi
33:31the doctor
33:32Claudio Gittardi
33:33asks
33:34the measure
33:35of custody
33:36precautionary
33:37for Pieretti
33:37but by the way
33:39of testimonies
33:40what they had said
33:42those three students
33:43that in the morning
33:44they were found
33:45not far away
33:47from where
33:48the professor
33:49Klinger
33:50he was killed
33:52all three
33:53they return
33:54a description
33:55of this subject
33:56that was wandering around
33:57at the crime scene
33:58different
33:59compared to physiognomy
34:01of the doctor
34:02Pieretti
34:02because they describe
34:04a young man
34:04with hair
34:06lowest
34:07of Pieretti
34:08about tall
34:09one meter
34:09seventy-five
34:10one meter
34:10eighty
34:11that goes away
34:12quickly
34:12and we have
34:13another element
34:14which is important
34:15and of which
34:16you have to anyway
34:17take into account
34:18that in that period
34:19Dr. Pieretti
34:21he was limping
34:22precisely because of
34:23of the intervention
34:24which he had suffered
34:24so he couldn't have
34:26to move away
34:27quickly
34:28and then there's another one
34:29particular still
34:30that of the hair
34:31if I'm not mistaken
34:32Dr. Pieretti
34:33he didn't have them
34:34Exactly
34:35while the young man
34:37which is described
34:38to move away
34:38from the crime scene
34:39is described
34:40with hair
34:41dark and curly
34:42to the light
34:43of these
34:44differences
34:45in the description
34:46of man
34:48who was on site
34:49of the crime
34:49and the professor
34:51Pieretti
34:52the request
34:54of the public prosecutor
34:55is rejected
34:55because they do not exist
34:57serious
34:58precise
34:59and concordant
34:59evidence of a crime
35:00towards him
35:01the certain fact
35:02is that
35:02there are only clues
35:04no evidence
35:06towards the orthopedist
35:07the accusation however
35:08he wants it
35:09under arrest
35:10and at a certain point
35:12it seems
35:12to take
35:13the revenge
35:14When
35:15this time
35:16addressing
35:17to the court
35:18of the exam
35:19gets
35:20an ordinance
35:21of imprisonment
35:23doctor
35:25Franconians
35:25Dr. Pieretti
35:27it ends
35:27in prison?
35:29No
35:30the lawyers
35:32they leave
35:32on the counterattack
35:33insisting
35:35on one
35:35of the points
35:36vowels
35:37of the request
35:38of pre-trial detention
35:39the motive
35:40we hear
35:41at this point
35:42what do they say
35:43the lawyers
35:43by Pieretti
35:52Dr. Pieretti
35:53he had the intention
35:55he had to keep him alive
35:56because it was the test
35:57quoted by him
35:59and if he had demonstrated
36:00the opposite
36:01to say that
36:02that he
36:02he didn't hope
36:03that he said
36:04would have if anything
36:05given up
36:06to the witness
36:06and it all ended like this
36:07much cheaper
36:09to give up a test
36:10than to kill him
36:13and Professor Klinger
36:15should have
36:16to testify
36:16on a circumstance
36:17now favorable
36:24effectively
36:25the motive
36:26it creaks
36:27Klinger
36:28he never said
36:29openly
36:30from what we know
36:31to Pieretti
36:33that it wouldn't be
36:34left
36:34to testify
36:36what they say
36:37the lawyers
36:37it's quite clear
36:38Yes
36:39the motive
36:40maybe it's not that strong
36:41but surely
36:42it has an aura of ambiguity
36:45let's remember the letter
36:47we are at a decisive step
36:49of the story
36:50in the end though
36:51the Court of Cassation
36:52which is called
36:53to decide
36:54or less
36:54on pre-trial detention
36:57of Pieretti
36:58but the only element
37:00that remains standing
37:01it seems to be
37:03that Beretta
37:04of which
37:05the Pieretti
37:06he can't explain
37:07and that maybe
37:09can be compatible
37:11with the weapon
37:12who killed
37:13Roberto Klinger
37:20I noticed precisely
37:22that that gun
37:23had been sold
37:25through the police station
37:27from La Spezia
37:28to a Spezzino
37:29to a buyer
37:30two years ago
37:34this topic
37:35but it was decisive
37:36if there was no gun
37:38and this was
37:39the only clue
37:40gentlemen
37:40this provision
37:42it must be rejected
37:52after two years
37:53Despite
37:54all the clues
37:56that they carried
37:57to Pieretti
37:58as a murderer
37:59by Klinger
38:00the last judge
38:03Anyway
38:04he doesn't feel like it
38:05to arrest him
38:08Dr. Pieretti
38:10he's definitely leaving
38:11on stage
38:17but the story
38:18it doesn't end here
38:19in 1995
38:21there is a new one
38:23resounding
38:24plot twist
38:28for the Klinger murder
38:29now there is an anonymous
38:30who accuses himself
38:31and writes a letter
38:32to the prosecutor
38:33Saverio Borrelli
38:34I waited for everything
38:35this time
38:35before writing
38:36to avoid any risk
38:37it is read in the text
38:38but today I can say it
38:39I killed Klinger
38:41and he deserved it
38:42that end
38:42the anonymous
38:44he writes
38:45to be
38:46the killer
38:47by Professor Klinger
38:48and having killed him
38:50why Professor Klinger
38:51he was a good soul
38:52a soul
38:53which therefore
38:54he was hiding
38:55a secret
38:57unspeakable
39:03Doctor
39:04and you found out
39:05this secret?
39:06From work
39:06what they did
39:07the investigators
39:08it did not emerge
39:08no secrets
39:09confessable
39:10or unspeakable
39:13As we have seen
39:14in this
39:15dramatic story
39:17they intertwined
39:18the big facts
39:20of ours
39:21recent history
39:23there are many
39:24the coincidences
39:25false leads
39:27or maybe
39:28work of braggarts
39:31the Klinger case
39:32it seems to end
39:33into oblivion
39:35for over
39:36twenty years
39:40a source of mine
39:41in 2018
39:42he contacted me
39:44to report me
39:46the presence
39:47of the name of Klinger
39:48in these judicial documents
39:50of the Bologna massacre
39:52and also of the Brescia massacre
39:53in which Klinger
39:55he didn't have to
39:55absolutely be there
39:59in 1999
40:01the Carabinieri of the Red
40:03they had searched
40:04Siegfried Battaini
40:05which was considered
40:06the Milanese exponent
40:08prominent
40:09of the ring
40:10in a couple
40:13of telephone directories
40:14there were indeed
40:16these references
40:17to Roberto Klinger
40:22until 2018
40:24the murder
40:25by Roberto Klinger
40:27remains
40:28shrouded in mystery
40:29Then
40:30a new light
40:31could be
40:33hidden
40:33precisely in these documents
40:35what they would do
40:36emerge
40:36connections
40:38between the murdered doctor
40:39and the men
40:40of the ring
40:41the secret service
40:43occult
40:44and parallel
40:45born in function
40:47anti-communist
40:48in the second
40:48post-war
40:49there are exactly
40:50two notes
40:52the indication
40:53KL
40:54which can make you think
40:55to Klinger
40:56and then
40:57in a second column
40:58it is indicated
41:00in full
41:00the name Klinger
41:02with the number
41:03telephone
41:04of his study
41:05which corresponds
41:06still
41:07to the number
41:07of the medical office
41:09of his son Marco
41:10according to some rumors
41:12the ring
41:14would have created
41:14a list
41:15of professionals
41:16as possible
41:18collaborators
41:19of the structure
41:20professor
41:22Antinori
41:23for this one
41:24organization
41:26the figure
41:27of doctors
41:29it would have been
41:30important
41:31have them available
41:33Well
41:33the scenario
41:34represented by her
41:35it's plausible
41:35that a structure
41:36of this type
41:37needed
41:38of a support
41:39of doctors
41:40in this sense
41:41the Klinger
41:42it could have been
41:44to be
41:45recruited
41:46or approached
41:48or be put
41:49aware
41:50of elements
41:51which then
41:52they could have
41:53determine
41:55the necessity
41:56to eliminate
41:57the same
41:57but this is a hypothesis
41:59taking into account
42:00of that too
42:01which is
42:01the profile
42:03mirrored
42:04of Klinger
42:05I do not believe
42:05that would have
42:06joined
42:07to a project
42:08so hidden
42:09Professor Giannini
42:10we have arrived
42:11in the end
42:12of the episode
42:13I ask you
42:14the profile
42:15of the murderer
42:17by Roberto
42:17Klinger
42:18he's a killer
42:20a psychopath
42:22or what?
42:24wanting to outline
42:25a profile
42:26we can say
42:26what is it about
42:27of a person
42:27very safe
42:28of himself
42:29with great
42:30emotional self-control
42:31able
42:32to explode
42:33three shots
42:34with precision
42:35in the distance
42:35close-up
42:36from the victim
42:37with the victim
42:38it's about
42:39Furthermore
42:39of a person
42:40which also has
42:41a lot of control
42:41of the environment
42:42he moved away
42:43quickly
42:44could be
42:45someone
42:46that he hated
42:47the professor
42:48in a very strong way
42:49and then
42:50intense hatred
42:51allowed him
42:52this type
42:53of operation
42:53or
42:54a killer
42:54that answering
42:56to an education
42:57he had everything
42:57the interest
42:58Anyway
42:59to kill
43:00the professor
43:00because in some way
43:01how he got it
43:02some income
43:03then we have
43:04searched
43:05during
43:06this episode
43:08to retrace
43:09all the hypotheses
43:11made
43:11to explain
43:12this murder
43:13to this day
43:14unpaid
43:15it has arrived
43:17but the moment
43:18to tell
43:19an aspect
43:19a little special
43:20by Roberto
43:21Kringer
43:23he had
43:24a soul
43:25very artistic
43:26and creative
43:27was
43:29Also
43:29a great painter
43:31himself
43:32he said
43:32to be
43:33a painter
43:34what he was doing
43:35the doctor
43:36think
43:37and not vice versa
43:39and if someone
43:40he told him
43:40that that
43:41of painting
43:42it was a hobby
43:42Well
43:43he got angry
43:48I always have
43:49judged
43:49my father
43:50a painter
43:50not on Sunday
43:51but a painter
43:52very busy
43:53that is, he lived
43:54with clippings
43:55and inspirations
43:56that he kept in his pocket
43:57For
43:58to imagine
43:59the following paintings
44:03I know that dad
44:04he has it next to him
44:05but it helps
44:05for sure
44:06I have to help
44:07all the others
44:11this was
44:13the last brush stroke
44:14to describe
44:16that
44:17which was
44:18the story
44:19of the professor
44:20Roberto Klinger
44:21I thank you
44:22the doctor
44:24Franconiers
44:25I thank you
44:26Anna Maria Giannini
44:28and the professor
44:29Arige Antinori
44:31and before saying goodbye
44:33I remind you
44:34our email
44:35if someone
44:37he wanted to say something
44:39had
44:40some secrets
44:42which he never revealed
44:43he can do it
44:45addressing
44:46directly
44:46to a police station
44:47of the police
44:48or by writing
44:49to
44:49detectives
44:52chiocciolarai.it
44:54we'll see each other
44:56next week
44:57with a new one
44:59investigation
44:59by Detective
45:00Have a good evening
45:01to everyone
45:02Thank you
45:08thank you all
45:11thank you all
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