Il 13 novembre 2004, alle cinque del mattino, viene trovato il corpo senza vita di una giovane ragazza di 14 anni sulla spiaggia di Manfredonia. I pantaloni sono abbassati, le gambe aperte, la testa fracassata. La ragazza si chiama Giusy Potenza e a ritrovarne il corpo sono i genitori, aiutati da alcuni amici, dopo averla cercata in lungo e in largo per tutta la notte. Un mese dopo la Polizia fa scattare lo stato di fermo per un uomo con lo stesso cognome della vittima, un cugino del padre. L'uomo Giovanni Potenza, poco dopo il fermo, crolla e confessa. Racconta che aveva una storia con Giusy, che quel giorno erano andati sulla spiaggia per avere un rapporto sessuale ma che lei lo aveva minacciato di rivelare tutto alla moglie. È stato a quel punto che avrebbe preso un sasso e colpito la ragazza. Pino Rinaldi ripercorre le indagini che hanno portato alla condanna dell'uomo a 30 anni di carcere con il Vice Questore della Polizia di Stato, il Dottore Marco Mastrangelo.
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00:02It was November 13, 2004, when around 12:50 pm the police received an anonymous phone call.
00:15It is a man who does not identify himself, he says he is calling on behalf of a friend and reports the presence of
00:20a young girl dead on the cliff.
00:24It was Giussi, who was only 15 years old. Her death became a choral tragedy that destroyed
00:32an entire family and even today, twenty years later, it is capable of shaking the consciences of all of us.
00:42My team and I arrived on the spot and indeed on this ground there was the body of a young girl lying
00:5115-14 years old, completely disfigured in the face and was unrecognizable.
01:02Some teeth were missing, and his hands were over his face, almost as if to defend himself from his attacker.
01:09There was also some vomit on the side. The pants were half-lowered, with only socks visible.
01:42Good evening and welcome to Detective, the RA program created in collaboration with the State Police that tells crime stories
01:49resolved and unresolved.
01:52This evening's story is a terrible one that has shocked an entire community that still today is united in
02:00memory of little Giussi.
02:01After twenty years, Giussi's name still resonates throughout Italy. Hers was labeled the first femicide.
02:12media.
02:13To understand, beyond the investigations, to make sense of what you will see and hear, we have with us
02:21our experts.
02:23Professor Anna Maria Giannini, good evening.
02:26Good evening.
02:26Psychologist and criminologist.
02:30And Professor Arijantinori, good evening, Professor.
02:34Good evening.
02:35Criminologist and sociologist of deviance.
02:40So, let's go back to Manfredonia, where a 15-year-old girl was found dead, just a child.
02:51But who was he?
02:52Giussi Potenza.
02:57Giussi was a 15 year old girl and like all girls of that age she had the will to live,
03:04She liked music, she liked being with friends.
03:08Everyone who knew her described her as a truly lively girl.
03:14Giussi already had her social and emotional life.
03:20He had many friends, many girlfriends, he had an excellent relationship with his parents, with his family.
03:26She also had a boyfriend since the beginning of October, who I listened to, he was a very nice, very young guy.
03:35Giussi lived in this apartment with her father, Carlo, who was a fisherman, and with her mother, Grazia, who was
03:41a housewife.
03:43She was very close to both her father and mother.
03:48Carlo, her father, compared her a bit to Pinocchio, because she had a very thin and long nose.
03:56Her mother checked her homework and also asked about her friends she was hanging out with.
04:05even though lately he had restricted her curfew a bit and she had to be home by 10am
04:11in the evening.
04:14Giussi, with his mother, were always inside my house.
04:16Five children, however, from the mother's family, Giussi, were attached to my mother, to their grandmother and to me too.
04:24It was a wonderful thing.
04:29Certainly a girl who had many possibilities,
04:32who unfortunately had a very sad fate, which no one deserves,
04:36but in particular it cannot be deserved by a 15 year old girl.
04:43What we will tell this evening is a terrible story, an atrocious murder,
04:48an unacceptable loss that has triggered, I think, a series of tragic events,
04:54destroying an entire family.
04:57The investigation into Giussi Potenza's death was meticulous,
05:02which did not leave out any of the paths that were gradually opening up.
05:09Doctor Mastrangelo, let's start from the beginning, from that day.
05:15It was November 13, 2004.
05:18At around 1pm, the Manfredonia police station received an anonymous phone call.
05:22There is talk of a girl's body lying on a cliff.
05:28The police rush to the scene and indeed find themselves faced with a gruesome scene.
05:33The body of a young woman with her head smashed in.
05:37Terrible wounds and around the body two rocks, two boulders, two very large stones,
05:44they are found still smeared with blood.
05:47The size of these stones and their weight suggests an extremely strong person,
05:53capable of using it as a weapon, or of several people, of a pack?
05:58Both policies are possible, but what immediately catches our eye
06:03it's also the fact that the girl's jeans are down.
06:07This makes us think of a sexual aspect.
06:12Another element that is immediately visible is the fact that from the girl's mouth
06:18some teeth are missing, which were not found next to the body.
06:23Again, and this is very important, the victim's clothes are full of sand,
06:29even though the place where he finds the body is the first one.
06:33So what does this mean?
06:34That the body has been moved.
06:36Did you give this girl a name?
06:37Yes, Giuseppina Potenza, known as Giussi, a 15 year old girl,
06:42whose disappearance had been reported by his parents the evening before.
06:47What are you doing? What are you starting to do?
06:49We start listening to all the people close to the girl,
06:52all the people who know the girl, on the one hand.
06:55On the other hand, through the autopsy, we try to understand the exact cause of death.
07:01and the possible presence of traces of the murderer.
07:05Immediately after the murder, what hypotheses began to be made?
07:09Who and why had killed this poor girl?
07:21It's hard not to talk openly about murder,
07:24of a nasty and brutal crime that casts light on Manfredoni
07:28in the disturbing shadow of a maniac's presence.
07:32All the TV shows start talking about the gang killing,
07:38of the serial killer, even of satanic sects.
07:44We would like justice, we would like to know as soon as possible what really happened,
07:48who took her away, who dragged her away, how many people were there.
07:53Giuse was an outgoing girl, very beautiful for her age.
08:00A witness says that because of her beauty she stole boyfriends from her friends.
08:09and so in recent times he was hanging out with another circle of friends
08:13who met in front of the Holy Family parish.
08:19I think Giuse was a particularly beautiful girl,
08:23of great strength of character and intelligence.
08:26It had a certain fascination for some people,
08:29as in other cases, perhaps being envied or hated.
08:33It is clear that for other girls of her age she could have seemed like an antagonist.
08:40Did you hear?
08:42Yes.
08:42Could these have been the motives for such a crime?
08:46Of course, at the beginning no hypolysis was excluded,
08:49that could also have been one of the motives for this murder.
08:52In these cases, the key thing is to reconstruct the last hours before the crime.
08:58Yes, we reconstruct through the testimonies of people close to Giuse
09:02the last hours of his life.
09:04A picture of absolute normality emerges,
09:07the girl was with her friends, went out, then came back home
09:11and she stayed at home to do her homework,
09:14until her mother asked her to go on an errand,
09:17to buy some CDs.
09:19So, Giuse went out only to go to the stationery shop, under the house,
09:24to buy these CDs that the mother needed.
09:29We know that she entered, paid, but then all trace of her was lost.
09:42Giuse goes out as she is dressed, with a ponytail, without makeup,
09:46to show that he only had to run the errand and go home early.
09:51She had also told her boyfriend that day that she wouldn't go out.
09:56because he had a lot of homework to do.
09:59It is certain that Giuse is leaving to return.
10:04The mother gets worried and after a few dozen minutes she immediately goes to the Bernini shop
10:09to look for his daughter.
10:11His tracks are lost here, next to this shop in Manfredonia.
10:16She goes to the Corona bar where her husband hangs out with friends.
10:20and precisely alarmed she tells her
10:21look I can't find Giuse.
10:23Together they go out to continue this research
10:27and late at night they come back
10:31and on the way back
10:33they find the umbrella right in front of the Bernini shop.
10:37An umbrella that they think is the same umbrella
10:41with whom Giuse had left the house a few hours earlier.
10:46Was this umbrella his or not?
10:49It will never be fully ascertained.
10:52So Giuse goes to this stationery shop
10:56do you buy these CDs?
10:58Buy CDs
10:58The testimony of the owner of the stationery shop supports this view.
11:02That is, the owner actually tells you
11:04she went in to buy the CDs
11:06what does he tell you after that?
11:07And he tells us something else
11:08he tells us that Giuse spoke with a peer of his
11:12a boy present there.
11:13Which was present in the stationery shop.
11:16Do you talk to this guy?
11:18Yes.
11:18And he tells us that he saw Giuse buying these CDs
11:21and don't add anything else.
11:23And then it came out of the stationery shop
11:25there is no point in adding anything else.
11:28There is something in this story, however.
11:31it is told to you
11:33and that doesn't match what this guy says.
11:38Yes, because the owner of the stationery shop
11:40He tells us that Giuse and the boy did indeed talk.
11:43they talked for a few minutes.
11:45Let's hear the testimony
11:47of the owner of the stationery shop.
11:52He met a friend while he was going out, I think.
11:58I listen to it again and he gives me some more details.
12:02When they go out, he turns left, she turns right.
12:06He follows her with his gaze
12:08and he notices the girl approaching a green Fiat Punto.
12:13In this Fiat there are two friends of the girl
12:14that he knew.
12:16driver and passenger, he recognizes them both.
12:18As Giuse approaches the car
12:20they set it in motion.
12:21He doesn't follow the other movements,
12:23he doesn't know if she got into the car,
12:25he doesn't know if they have moved away.
12:31For a story like this, every detail becomes important.
12:35Even the most banal things,
12:37normal behavior like the one described.
12:40Giuse enters a shop,
12:42he buys the CDs, then goes out and reaches a car
12:44where he presumably talks to someone he knows.
12:49Just curious, will the CDs ever be found?
12:54So there's this guy,
12:55this witness who tells you that Giuse starts talking
12:58with two girls who are present,
13:02I'm on board this machine.
13:05Is that so?
13:05Yes, it even identifies them.
13:07Who am I?
13:08They are two girls older than Giuse.
13:10The witness says they are friends of the sister,
13:13I'm dating a sister.
13:14They are girls related to local criminals.
13:21Another witness adds a detail.
13:25There is a man sitting in the back of your car.
13:29There is also the presence of a man, of a male subject.
13:32These testimonials, based on the data you are collecting,
13:36Are they in harmony or do they make some red lights go off in your head?
13:42I am opening a new scenario because from all the testimonies collected up to now,
13:47Giuse hung out with girls her own age.
13:50The mother and father tell us about the normal life of a girl who hung out with girls her own age.
13:54And maybe not the possibility of getting close to a car
13:58where there are girls older than her and even a man behind her.
14:02What is beginning to emerge is a lifestyle,
14:07Giuse's is certainly not suitable for a 15 year old girl.
14:14They are not two friends of mine, but they were just two acquaintances.
14:17My sister didn't tell me anything.
14:21Giuse had probably taken an incorrect path without his parents' knowledge.
14:28We were able to understand the girl's standard of living.
14:31He had multiple cell phones and dressed well.
14:36Some witnesses say that she often offered food to her friends when they went out.
14:43and she had also given a cell phone to her boyfriend.
14:47a somewhat unusual story for a 15-year-old girl.
14:52We were able to ascertain that the girl was seeing some friends
14:57belonging to criminal families in the area.
15:02I hope the whole truth comes out.
15:04That's what I want.
15:05Because my sister is not what she is said to be.
15:12Professor Antinori, let's try to explain reality.
15:16where Giuse Potenza lives and grows up.
15:21The city of Manfredonia represents a particularly complex context.
15:27A city that lives mainly from fishing,
15:30where there is growing unemployment
15:33and where obviously organised criminal phenomena come into play,
15:37in particular the Sacra Corona Unita,
15:39who therefore governs some of the city's traffic and dark sides.
15:46So we are in the presence of something that is visible
15:50and something else that is not visible at all.
15:53Obviously all this very vulnerable tissue
15:57it can constitute a critical element
15:59for both adults and young people
16:01who can run into unpleasant situations.
16:07Professor Giannini,
16:10How can a little girl get this far?
16:13For a teenager certain behaviors
16:16they can represent elements of transgression,
16:19of opposition to the adult world,
16:21way of defining certain aspects of one's identity
16:25and on the other hand they can also constitute an illusory mechanism
16:29to gain some advantage,
16:32to be a kind of heroine towards her friends,
16:35of the people around, of the reference group
16:38and therefore they are put into effect absolutely
16:40not with the same frame of reference as an adult,
16:44but with a slightly extreme intent,
16:47living the body and sexuality in certain ways.
16:50These are naturally transitional phases.
16:52and very often, with a certain frequency,
16:55occur in adolescents.
16:57Thank you, professor.
16:59The certain fact is that
17:03when Giussi Potenza is seen speaking
17:07with these people who are on board this Fiat Punto Verde,
17:13It's the last time Giussi is seen alive.
17:19Certainly the investigation on this particular,
17:23the presence of these people on board that car
17:26represents an important moment in the investigation,
17:29but in the meantime forensic medicine is doing its job.
17:35The autopsy finally arrives.
17:37What does it tell you?
17:38He tells us that the girl had sexual intercourse,
17:41because seminal fluid was found on his body.
17:44Had she been raped?
17:46Traces of the injuries are found
17:49in the private parts
17:51which could be compatible with sexual violence,
17:54but perhaps even more so
17:56they are compatible with an uncomfortable relationship.
17:59These biological traces
18:01they are nothing but the signature of the murderer.
18:04And since then, to this point,
18:05the investigations pass into the hands
18:07of the Scientific Police of Rome.
18:09It is their task to give
18:12at least a genetic code to the killer.
18:21First card, the scientific findings
18:24performed once again this morning.
18:28I'm in the scientific laboratories in Rome
18:30the fragments found under the nails
18:32could reveal the DNA of at least one attacker.
18:37Sampling allowed in the laboratory
18:40to extract a complete DNA profile.
18:45The DNA test was compared
18:48with a circle of potential suspects
18:50and the result was negative.
18:54The test excluded everyone.
18:59So, the DNA identified
19:02does not match any of the profiles
19:04of the men heard
19:06and identified so far by the Police.
19:09The man who had
19:10one last sexual intercourse
19:12with Giussi, a girl of just 15 years old,
19:16and that probably
19:17he is her murderer,
19:19It doesn't have a face yet.
19:21Doctor Mastrangelo,
19:23at this stage of the investigation
19:25we have a DNA
19:28but we don't know who it belongs to
19:31and then we have a witness
19:35who says that on board that car
19:39there is a man
19:40who is sitting behind,
19:43in front are these two girls.
19:45These two pieces of information,
19:47the DNA of the unknown
19:48and this unknown man too
19:51up to now,
19:53do you put them together?
19:55Absolutely yes.
19:57We try to identify
19:59the man sitting behind the car
20:01and to do this
20:02the only tool we have
20:04is to hear the girls.
20:05The girls deny having seen Giussi
20:07that evening
20:08and deny having been
20:09in front of the stationery shop at that time.
20:10So they completely contradict
20:12as stated
20:13from these two witnesses
20:15which essentially represent
20:17the only track
20:18what do you have.
20:21What happens then?
20:23What are you doing?
20:24Let's listen again
20:25the boy who spoke to Giussi
20:28in stationery
20:28and he specifies a fact to us.
20:31The girl came out of the stationery shop
20:33because he was waiting for her
20:34the father's cousin.
20:36This thing at the beginning
20:37he hadn't said it.
20:40It is an extremely important element
20:42the fact that she had to meet
20:43this relative of his.
20:47I ask you
20:48but this relative of his
20:49this man
20:51he is the man who
20:51was he on board that car?
20:54This is not evident from the investigations.
20:58It is an element though
20:59that drives us
21:00to investigate
21:01towards the father's family
21:03by Giussi Potenza.
21:04At this point the investigations
21:06they change direction.
21:08It's important
21:10this machine
21:11but it's even more important
21:14the testimony
21:15that this boy
21:17he finally gave.
21:18But why?
21:19hadn't he said it before?
21:20Probably
21:21because he was afraid
21:22of the reaction
21:22of the city
21:24because probably
21:25he was afraid
21:25he didn't want to be pulled
21:26in the midst of this circumstance
21:28to this ugly fact
21:29what had happened in the city.
21:31What do you do at this point?
21:32At this point
21:33another fact comes into play.
21:35we receive the anonymous phone call
21:37what does he say?
21:38who killed
21:39by Giussi
21:39he was a relative of the father.
21:41These two facts
21:42they push us
21:44to investigate
21:45about the Potenza family.
21:47The father
21:47by Giussi Potenza
21:49he has many cousins.
21:50Us
21:50one by one
21:51we hear them
21:52we call
21:52all male relatives
21:54of Giussi's father
21:56and we have to understand
21:56who are these people
21:57and get us
21:58their genetic profile
21:59so you can compare it
22:01with that
22:02that the scientific police
22:04he isolated.
22:04So you start
22:05to work
22:06in tune
22:07with that
22:08what Rome is doing.
22:09We are back in 2004
22:11and the Manfredonia police
22:13already prepares
22:14a real one
22:15withdrawal
22:16of DNA
22:16across the board.
22:18In short
22:19they are real
22:20and its pioneers.
22:25The next step
22:28it was just that
22:29to apply
22:29for the first time
22:30a further analysis
22:32of DNA
22:32which was not routine
22:33that is, that one
22:34of the analysis
22:35of the Y chromosome
22:36which allows
22:38to see
22:39the parental line
22:40male
22:41to which it is linked
22:42the person
22:42who left
22:43that track
22:44and this was
22:45the intuition
22:45which was a bit
22:47the keystone
22:47Why
22:48the first result
22:50it was
22:50it's the same
22:51to the father's DNA.
22:56Doctor Biondo
22:58talk about the first result
22:59but he says
23:00which is the father's DNA.
23:02Was he the father?
23:03It was the father
23:03to kill
23:04Joseph Potenza?
23:04It wasn't the father
23:05why another series
23:07of objective circumstances
23:08takes us
23:09the father in the shield
23:10to have committed
23:11this murder.
23:12It's someone
23:13related to the father.
23:15It's a moment
23:16difficult
23:17for the Potenza family
23:19which continues
23:20to knock
23:20insistently
23:22at the door
23:23of the investigators.
23:24In the village
23:25they turn
23:26confused voices
23:27but the police
23:28doesn't leave
23:29nothing leaks out.
23:31The father
23:32and the mother
23:33by Joseph
23:34they ask
23:34desperate
23:35to know
23:37the truth.
23:43During the investigations
23:44the pressure
23:46media
23:46he was strong
23:47he was strong
23:48but much stronger
23:49it was the pressure
23:49of the parents
23:50that they wanted
23:51at all costs
23:51have some news
23:53in addition
23:53that could
23:55reassure them.
23:56We would like to know
23:57who and how
23:58he did
23:59this massacre.
24:00And make it clear
24:02that we were
24:03on the right track
24:04and that
24:04the author
24:05of the murder
24:06his days were numbered.
24:09It's so true
24:10that in one
24:11of those times
24:12in which the father
24:13he was coming
24:13in front of
24:14at my door
24:17of the office
24:17I told him
24:19textually
24:20that before Christmas
24:21I would have found them
24:23the author
24:24of the murder
24:25of the daughter
24:27and so it happened.
24:32In short
24:33Joseph's father
24:33he tore
24:35to the investigators
24:36this promise
24:37a promise
24:38what will be
24:38maintained
24:39and here it is
24:41what's happening
24:42that December 23rd
24:43close to
24:44own
24:44on the eve
24:45of Christmas.
24:49From Rome
24:50it reaches me
24:51the news
24:51That
24:52DNA
24:53which was
24:54extrapolated
24:55from the body
24:55by Joseph
24:56Power
24:56belonged
24:57to a relative of his.
25:00In the afternoon
25:01there was
25:02a turning point
25:02in the investigations
25:03for death
25:04of the fifteen-year-old
25:05from Manfredonia
25:05a crime
25:07matured
25:08in the family
25:08apparently
25:09and the solution
25:10it's passed
25:11for Molise.
25:14It was one
25:15who worked
25:16on trawlers
25:17a sailor
25:19and at that moment
25:20he was located
25:21out
25:22Manfredonia
25:22and exactly
25:23in Termoli.
25:27Doctor Mastrangelo
25:29the police
25:30it has arrived
25:31finally
25:32to discover
25:33the truth
25:33on this crime
25:34who is
25:36this relative?
25:37John Potenza
25:38a person
25:40at the time
25:40of the facts
25:4127 years old
25:42cousin
25:42of the father
25:42by Joseph
25:43working
25:45on fishing boats
25:47at that moment
25:47it's in Termoli
25:48and we go
25:50to take
25:51because we want it
25:52feel
25:52him
25:54the vessel
25:56at our request
25:57to return
25:58in port
25:59he procrastinates
26:00it doesn't fit
26:01finally
26:02arrives in port
26:03but he
26:03try to jump
26:05on the platform
26:06then he sees
26:07the rough sea
26:09and it exists
26:10it goes down
26:11and we take it
26:12which is why it fails
26:13to escape
26:13he can't escape
26:14and already in the car
26:15already when we take it away
26:17start doing
26:18of the statements
26:18against himself
26:19he begins to confess
26:20his right
26:21but who is he really?
26:23John Potenza
26:24and why
26:25that day in November
26:28he decided
26:29to kill
26:30Joseph
26:34we meet
26:36in Campanile Street
26:37behind
26:37he lived
26:38John Potenza
26:40he was a person
26:42normal
26:43he had a family
26:44he was married
26:45he had two children
26:46a hard worker
26:48and very often
26:49he was out
26:49just for
26:50his business
26:51working
26:52John Potenza
26:54he is a person
26:55very simple
26:55in his interrogation
26:57he says that
26:58from the middle
26:59of the month of September
27:00had had
27:01a frequentation
27:02with Giuse Potenza
27:03How many times
27:05have you met?
27:05he said
27:066-7 times
27:066-7 times
27:08no more
27:08I don't remember exactly
27:10most
27:11sometimes
27:11you made an appointment
27:12by voice
27:14to which you had
27:15under the school
27:41they met
27:42only once
27:43per week
27:44on Friday
27:45when he came back
27:46from work
27:46they saw each other
27:47to consume
27:49a sexual relationship
27:51after which
27:51Enough
27:52we were talking about it
27:52the following week
27:54I saw it
27:56the night
27:56of the interrogation
27:58it seemed to me
27:59a boy
28:0027 years old
28:01with a normal life
28:02behind
28:03a normal family
28:04a young boy
28:05he was working precisely
28:06often away from home
28:07because he was busy
28:08at sea
28:09a normal person
28:14it looks like a person
28:15absolutely normal
28:17they are the words
28:18of the magistrate
28:19and yet he
28:20he is the murderer
28:21I confess
28:22of this terrible
28:23homocide
28:24to the detriment
28:25of a girl
28:26just 15 years old
28:28what it says
28:30in front of
28:32to the police
28:33John Potenza
28:35after confessing
28:36to be him
28:37the killer
28:38he says
28:39tells
28:40of having had
28:41to have woven
28:42a romantic relationship
28:44with this girl
28:46to frequent her
28:47for a few months now
28:48it's a relationship
28:49which is substantiated
28:50in weekly meetings
28:52in one meeting a week
28:53usually on Fridays
28:54during which
28:55they have sexual intercourse
28:57ends in themselves
28:58this is what it says
29:01this John
29:05and how come it arrives
29:07to commit
29:08a murder of this kind
29:10because always
29:11according to his version
29:12the girl
29:14Giussi
29:14he makes a request to him
29:16specification
29:17to leave
29:18wives and children
29:18and to live
29:19a story
29:20in the sunlight
29:21with her
29:22so this John
29:23who is married
29:24he has children
29:24he frequented
29:26this granddaughter
29:27let's call it that
29:28and the granddaughter
29:29at a certain point
29:30wants
29:31that history
29:32let's make it official
29:33he's not there
29:35this is that
29:36what does he say?
29:38for him
29:39has a relationship
29:40Like this
29:40a story
29:41insignificant
29:42but there is one detail
29:43that strikes me
29:44is found
29:46of the liquid
29:46seminal
29:47within
29:48of the body
29:49let's say
29:50of sex
29:51by Giussi Potenza
29:53it's not a contradiction
29:54he wasn't afraid
29:55Of
29:56get her pregnant
29:58him
29:59gives an explanation
30:00to this one too
30:01circumstance
30:02and says that the girl
30:03he always reassured him
30:04on the fact
30:05to take on
30:05contraceptives
30:06for which he
30:07he lived this
30:08his sexuality
30:09in a calm manner
30:10he is free
30:11has these relationships
30:12but then
30:13that evening
30:16Giussi
30:16according to him
30:17De Duco
30:19express
30:20an attitude
30:21more decisive
30:23wants
30:25be with him
30:26in the sunlight
30:27and threatens him
30:28what he tells him
30:29always according to his story
30:32for the umpteenth time
30:33in a strong way
30:33Giussi
30:34he asks him
30:35to leave
30:36the wife
30:37and in the opposite case
30:39threat
30:39to reveal
30:40the truth
30:40to the woman
30:41At that time
30:42according to the version
30:43by Giovanni Potenza
30:45this story
30:47for him
30:48it was of little importance
30:50but for the girl
30:52it was instead
30:52very important
30:54from that
30:54that you discover
30:55feeling
30:56the friends
30:57friends
30:59of this relationship
31:01Giussi
31:02had he ever talked about it
31:05she had confided in
31:06with someone
31:07there is no trace
31:08of this relationship
31:10nor from
31:11Giussi's diary
31:13nor from confidences
31:15who makes friends
31:16much less
31:17from technical activity
31:19which was carried out
31:20John Potenza
31:21tells
31:22of having called
31:23Giussi
31:24in some circumstances
31:25from a telephone booth
31:27on a telephone number
31:28by Giussi
31:29the tables
31:30they deny
31:30this statement
31:31there has never been
31:32call
31:33by
31:33John Potenza
31:34to Giuseppina
31:35for which
31:37the version
31:38that he tells
31:39could be
31:41totally invented
31:43and that evening
31:44could be
31:45something happened
31:46of extremely
31:47particular
31:48extraordinary
31:50At that time
31:52Giussi Potenza
31:54to say about his killer
31:56it would have been
31:58so in love
32:01to want
32:04tell
32:04to the world
32:05his love
32:06for this uncle of his
32:08much bigger
32:09her
32:10nevertheless
32:11doesn't leave
32:12to leak
32:12Nothing
32:13with no one
32:14maybe not even
32:15with herself
32:17everything
32:18it turns out quite well
32:19strange
32:20among the shadows
32:22among the doubts
32:24that still
32:24today they remain
32:26there is only one
32:27certainty
32:29John Potenza
32:30he is the murderer
32:32of the little one
32:33Giussi
32:34and killed her
32:36with unheard of
32:37violence
32:41John Potenza
32:43who says
32:43exactly this
32:45the discussion
32:46it becomes lit
32:47she goes out
32:48from the car
32:49he goes out
32:50in the dark
32:51he doesn't notice
32:52of the cliff
32:52falls
32:53he goes
32:54to recover it
32:55the door above
32:56with great difficulty
32:58why the cliff
32:59it's tall
33:01there is a ladder
33:02that helps
33:04this effort
33:04superhuman
33:05he puts it on the ground
33:06because he has to recover
33:07from this effort
33:08superhuman
33:09he goes towards the car
33:10because he intends
33:11to bring her
33:12in the hospital
33:13but Giussi Potenza
33:15he says harsh words
33:17towards him
33:19he says to make it clear
33:21and to make known
33:22this relationship
33:23to the father
33:23and to all family members
33:30some time ago
33:32the Potenza couple
33:34had
33:34some problems
33:35conjugal
33:36this sentence
33:38and he
33:38has
33:39an echo
33:40wider
33:41When
33:42Giussi Potenza
33:43he tells him
33:44for the last time
33:45I'll tell you everything
33:46I'll tell you everything
33:47that's the spark
33:48that sets fire
33:49to the straw
33:52and makes everything explode
34:00John Potenza
34:01taken
34:02from panic
34:03take the first boulder
34:04he crushes it
34:05on the head
34:06take more rocks
34:07and continues
34:08this operation
34:08of destruction
34:09I took the stone
34:10and I threw it away
34:11so you got closer
34:13you bent over
34:14you are getting closer
34:14but you're much closer
34:15In my opinion
34:16I don't remember
34:16you thought
34:18that I was dead?
34:20Obviously
34:21I'm saying
34:22me in that moment
34:24I didn't understand anything
34:26and then you left
34:27why did you leave?
34:29fear
34:30he does a lot
34:31afraid of what?
34:35Don't worry
34:36so simple
34:37huh?
34:38so simple
34:40here
34:40I did
34:42the advent
34:43it was a thing
34:44that I didn't want to do
34:45they are not
34:46they are not
34:48capable of doing it
34:49but
34:50I did it
34:52because it's an animal
34:53the beast
34:54I think that
34:54the beasts are missing
34:55that's what you do
34:55what they did
34:56my sister
35:02Who is Giovanni Potenza?
35:03a murderer
35:05a murderer
35:06which has never
35:08advanced
35:09neither
35:09a word
35:10of forgiveness
35:14John Potenza
35:16he accomplished
35:17a murder
35:17serious
35:18and wounded
35:19and with this
35:22awareness
35:23we went
35:25before the judges
35:26there is never any
35:26dreamed
35:27to undertake
35:29the road
35:30of infirmity
35:31mental
35:31by Giovanni Potenza
35:32we have never
35:33asked
35:34the solution
35:36never
35:40the most terrible thing
35:42is that it was
35:43killed
35:45as a final act
35:47eliminating her face
35:49with a boulder
35:50seven kilos
35:51that is, the murderer
35:53he wanted
35:53eliminate
35:54the face
35:56and the image
35:56of this little girl
35:5715 years old
35:58forever
36:11Professor Giannini
36:13let's try to enter
36:14in the mind
36:14of the murderer
36:17how to explain
36:20that action
36:21that of erasing
36:22the face
36:23of that little girl
36:26the killer acted
36:28with extreme cruelty
36:29concentrating revenge
36:32desire to prevent them
36:33to speak
36:34anger
36:35an extreme anger
36:36and he got angry
36:37on the victim's body
36:39lifting
36:40very heavy stones
36:42in what can be done
36:43define overkilling
36:44that is, he insisted
36:46in all actions
36:47then using
36:48a modus operandi
36:49really extreme
36:50and arriving
36:51to disfigure his face
36:53which is an act
36:54truly terrible
36:55not only is she killed
36:57the victim
36:57dehumanizing her
36:58depriving her
36:59of every shape
37:00of humanity
37:01and possibilities
37:02to continue to exist
37:03but it will no longer exist
37:04not even a trace
37:05of his appearance
37:06in a human being
37:08the face
37:08it's the most important part
37:09on the social level
37:10it is the one that activates
37:12emotionally
37:13look into the face
37:14a person
37:15and kill her
37:15it's already an act
37:16of extreme difficulty
37:18disfigure her
37:19and erase his face
37:20it means exactly
37:21don't want anymore
37:22that it exists
37:23at no level
37:24hate is truly
37:25extreme
37:26and the person
37:26he didn't kill
37:28on the push
37:29of a sudden impulse
37:29evidently
37:30but with everything
37:31what it is
37:32a procedure
37:33perfectly
37:34wanted
37:35and with self-determination
37:36extreme
37:38from the terrible murder
37:39by Giussi Potenza
37:41they have passed
37:41twenty years
37:42and of things
37:43luckily
37:44have changed
37:44if we didn't talk before
37:46of femicide
37:47Today
37:48we go down
37:49in the square
37:50Professor Antinori
37:52at what point
37:53we are
37:54in the fight
37:55to femicide
37:56let's say
37:58that we are
37:58at twenty years old
37:59from the socket
38:00of awareness
38:01of necessity
38:02to pay attention
38:03at the level
38:04regulatory
38:05on this
38:06phenomenon
38:07and then
38:07recognize it
38:08Italian law
38:09on femicide
38:10It's from 2013
38:11Therefore
38:12let's say
38:12that we have
38:14accomplished
38:14steps forward
38:15but surely
38:16there is a lot to do
38:17above all
38:17on the front
38:18of education
38:19which is fundamental
38:21to constitute
38:21then those
38:22all those factors
38:24of protection
38:24with regard to
38:26the size
38:27socio-relational
38:28of gender
38:30and then
38:31and then
38:31prevent
38:32the pipelines
38:33which then can
38:34determine
38:35these actions
38:36of the plural
38:36Thank you
38:40the police
38:41she succeeded
38:43to arrive
38:44to the truth
38:46to give
38:47a name
38:48a face
38:49to the murderer
38:50of this poor
38:52lass
38:56Dr. Mastrangelo
38:58in his opinion
38:59what happened
39:01it's something
39:03of premeditated
39:07or
39:08a sudden fit of rage
39:10an action
39:13sudden
39:14this is one
39:16of the elements
39:17one of the facts
39:18to which one cannot give
39:20an answer
39:21the answer
39:22he only knows her
39:23the killer
39:24it is certain that
39:26the inconsistencies
39:28of his story
39:29there are many
39:29and also
39:30in the sentences
39:32of condemnation
39:33by Giovanni Potenza
39:34is highlighted
39:36how it was
39:37his story
39:38it was
39:39in part
39:39not congruent
39:41with reality
39:42of the facts
39:42for example
39:43what are the elements
39:44that don't come back?
39:47first of all
39:47the speech
39:48of the relative
39:50to the relationship
39:50with the girl
39:51which we talked about
39:52already before
39:52widely
39:54Then
39:55it still has to be done
39:56it wasn't asked well
39:58the circumstance
39:59of the Green Point
40:01they were not found
40:03the CDs
40:03that the girl
40:04she had gone to buy
40:05and which actually has
40:06bought
40:06as they tell us
40:07the testimonies
40:08clear
40:09his shoes
40:10they have not been
40:11never found
40:12Here you are
40:13these circumstances
40:15they still remain
40:15some dark spots
40:17in this
40:17tragic story
40:18these things
40:20they could also
40:21explain
40:22and tell
40:22another truth
40:23different from that one
40:24what he wants
40:25make Giovanni known
40:27that is, that it was
40:28everything
40:29let's say
40:30agreed
40:32with the victim
40:33that is the fact
40:34that he frequented her
40:35and that they did
40:36love
40:36if this
40:37it wasn't the truth
40:39if they
40:40they were not
40:41lovers
40:41that afternoon
40:43could be
40:44happened
40:44something else
40:45that is, a meeting
40:47random
40:48then flowed out
40:49in death
40:51Of
40:52Giussi
40:53Power
40:54but this
40:56enormous pain
40:58this
40:58tragedy
41:00has produced
41:01more pain
41:03and it's a tragedy
41:06in the
41:07tragedy
41:08what's happening
41:09to parents
41:11by Giussi
41:12Power
41:12to mom
41:13and to the father
41:14this tragic
41:15episode
41:16this tragic
41:16event
41:17brought
41:18further
41:18consequences
41:19the dad
41:19by Giussi
41:20some time
41:21After
41:22in public
41:24street
41:25stabs
41:26the dad
41:26of a
41:27of the girls
41:28that they were
41:28at the wheel
41:29of the famous
41:29Green Dot
41:30kills him
41:30or hurts him
41:31he hurts him
41:31only
41:32fortunately
41:33and what
41:33even more
41:34tragic
41:34after a few
41:35time
41:35the mother
41:36by Giussi
41:36that in that
41:37moment
41:37he was waiting
41:38of a son
41:39decide
41:40to take off
41:41life
41:41an ending
41:43from tragedy
41:44Greek
41:49it's a story
41:51that beyond
41:51of cruelty
41:53of cruelty
41:54of the gesture
41:55mortal
41:56he has his own
41:58an epilogue
41:58tragic
41:59choral
41:59why he invests
42:00all the others
42:01figures
42:01the mother
42:03the father
42:03so a story
42:05of great
42:05pain
42:09the act
42:11by John
42:11Power
42:12was
42:13an act
42:13terrible
42:14who had
42:14consequences
42:15not only
42:16on the
42:17poor creature
42:19that he
42:19he suppressed
42:20in that
42:21manner
42:21horrible
42:22but also
42:23on the whole
42:23the family
42:26above all
42:26on Grace
42:28Why
42:28this poor one
42:29mom
42:30at a certain point
42:31point
42:31he started
42:32not to
42:33accept
42:34not even anymore
42:35the possibility
42:35to live
42:36without
42:37his daughter
42:44it's so true
42:46which unfortunately
42:46she died
42:48in that way
42:49terrible
42:57they killed me
42:59my niece
42:59they killed me
43:01the mother
43:02Now
43:03I lost
43:03even the grandmother
43:04by Giusto
43:06I would like
43:06a bit
43:06of tranquility
43:27this was the story
43:28by Giussi Potenza
43:29and his murderer
43:30John Potenza
43:32Thank you
43:33Dr. Mastrangelo
43:34Thank you
43:35to the teacher
43:36Giannini
43:37to the professor
43:37Antinori
43:38before saying goodbye
43:40I remind you
43:40our email
43:41detective
43:41schiocciolarai.it
43:44write to us
43:45if you have
43:45of the reports
43:47to do
43:47on this
43:48and above all
43:49the other cases
43:50what we deal with
43:52we have arrived
43:53to the last episode
43:54of this season
43:55by Detective
43:57I'll meet you
43:58for the next one
43:59season
44:00with a new series
44:01of crimes
44:02solved
44:03and unresolved
44:04thank you for being
44:06been with us
44:07Good evening everyone
44:14Thank you
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