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COURTROOM DRAMA "Scottish nationalist campaigners Hamish Stewart-Mackenzie and Davidina McLeod stand charged with the theft of an oil tanker that was taken from Services near Kendal. The Prosecution allege that Stewart-Mackenzie drove the vehicle away after Miss McLeod had distracted the driver Peter Telfer who had been giving her a lift. " IMDB Starring Anthony Nicholls, Robert Flemyng, Richard Wilson, Malcolm Rennie, Virgina Stark, Miriam Margoyles
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00:00:54Davidina MacLeod and Hamish Stuart McKenzie,
00:00:58you are both indicted and charged with theft,
00:01:01contrary to Section 1 of the Theft Act 1968.
00:01:05The particulars of this offence being that you,
00:01:08on the 23rd of November 1975,
00:01:11stole a vehicle, a land oil tanker,
00:01:14the property of Polestar Petroleum.
00:01:17To this indictment, do you plead guilty or not guilty?
00:01:21Davidina MacLeod?
00:01:23Not guilty.
00:01:24Hamish Stuart McKenzie?
00:01:26Not guilty.
00:01:40Now, before this hearing begins,
00:01:42I would like to say something.
00:01:45I recall once reading in,
00:01:47well, in what was otherwise an excessively boring book,
00:01:50that anything may become a symbol at any time.
00:01:54And this would seem to apply to the cases in the court today.
00:01:59It has apparently acquired a character
00:02:03that transcends a merely simple case of theft.
00:02:08Nevertheless,
00:02:08I am determined that this case will be conducted
00:02:11in a proper and seemly fashion.
00:02:14And I shall deal severely with any interruptions
00:02:18or attempted demonstrations.
00:02:22The jury in this trial has been selected
00:02:25from members of the public,
00:02:26whose names appear on the electoral register
00:02:28and who are eligible for jury service.
00:02:31Mr. Latimore.
00:02:33My Lord.
00:02:33I call Marilyn Monroe.
00:02:55Take the Bible in your right hand.
00:02:57Read aloud the words on the card.
00:02:59I swear by almighty God
00:03:01that the evidence I shall give
00:03:02shall be the truth, the whole truth,
00:03:04and nothing but the truth.
00:03:07Now, is your full name Marilyn Monroe?
00:03:10Yes, it is.
00:03:11Yes, and you live at Fourth View,
00:03:12Nicholson Street, Grangemouth,
00:03:14Stirlingshire, Scotland.
00:03:15That's correct.
00:03:16And what is your occupation, Miss Monroe?
00:03:19I'm a telephonist in the Grangemouth office
00:03:22of Polestar Petroleum.
00:03:23And how long have you worked there?
00:03:25For about four years.
00:03:26Yes.
00:03:27Now, Miss Monroe,
00:03:27were you on duty on the morning
00:03:28of the 22nd of November, 1975?
00:03:32I was.
00:03:33And do you remember receiving
00:03:34a certain telephone call?
00:03:36Yes, quite clearly.
00:03:37Yes.
00:03:37Now, could you give the court
00:03:38more details about that telephone call?
00:03:41Well, it came in at precisely 11.27.
00:03:44Now, Miss Monroe,
00:03:45why are you able to pinpoint
00:03:46the time so accurately?
00:03:48Well, it was such a weird call
00:03:50that I made a note of the time.
00:03:51Yes, I see.
00:03:52Now, was the caller a man or a woman?
00:03:54It was a woman.
00:03:55What did this woman say?
00:03:57She said,
00:03:59Target, tanker.
00:04:01Tomorrow, termites.
00:04:03And what action did you take
00:04:04in response to this cryptic message?
00:04:07I contacted our head of security.
00:04:09Thank you, Miss Monroe.
00:04:11Miss Monroe,
00:04:12have you been a telephonist how long?
00:04:14Oh, for about,
00:04:16since I left school,
00:04:17for about 10 years.
00:04:18I should imagine
00:04:19all that experience makes you,
00:04:20whether you know it or not,
00:04:21an expert in human voices.
00:04:23Well, you know,
00:04:24you're so right.
00:04:25Yes.
00:04:25And accents, perhaps.
00:04:27Oh, yes,
00:04:27you get all of that,
00:04:29especially since all this
00:04:29tirry-y about the oil.
00:04:31Yes.
00:04:31Now, Miss Monroe,
00:04:32the woman who made this call to you,
00:04:34can you describe her accent?
00:04:37Well,
00:04:38was she Scotch?
00:04:40No.
00:04:43Scotch is whiskey.
00:04:44The woman who made the call
00:04:45was Scottish.
00:04:47Yes,
00:04:48my apologies,
00:04:49Miss Monroe.
00:04:50What can you tell us
00:04:51about her accent?
00:04:52It was a lowland accent.
00:04:54Yes.
00:04:55And sort of,
00:04:57well,
00:04:57sort of pan loaf.
00:04:59Ah,
00:05:00well,
00:05:00do you think you could
00:05:01explain that term for the court,
00:05:03Miss Monroe?
00:05:04Ah,
00:05:06oh,
00:05:06Jack,
00:05:07your hat's bashed flat.
00:05:12Miss Monroe?
00:05:13Well,
00:05:14that was someone saying,
00:05:15oh,
00:05:15Jack,
00:05:15your hat's bashed flat
00:05:17in a pan loaf accent.
00:05:18Ah,
00:05:19I see.
00:05:20Thank you,
00:05:20Miss Monroe.
00:05:21My Lord,
00:05:22with your permission,
00:05:23I'd like it to be possible
00:05:24that Miss Monroe
00:05:25should hear the defendant's
00:05:27Davideena MacLeod speak.
00:05:29Mr. Latimer?
00:05:30No objection,
00:05:30my Lord.
00:05:32Ah,
00:05:32Miss MacLeod,
00:05:33if you'll be so kind.
00:05:36The rose of all the world
00:05:37is not for me.
00:05:38I want for my part
00:05:40only the little white rose
00:05:41of Scotland
00:05:42that smells sharp and sweet
00:05:44and breaks the heart.
00:05:52I thought I had made myself
00:05:54abundantly clear
00:05:56in my opening remarks
00:05:57about this kind of interruption.
00:05:59Now,
00:05:59if it happens again,
00:06:01I shall immediately
00:06:02get to clear the court.
00:06:05Mr. Parsons.
00:06:07My Lord,
00:06:07now,
00:06:07Miss Monroe,
00:06:08you listened to Miss MacLeod
00:06:09carefully,
00:06:10didn't you?
00:06:10Yes,
00:06:11I did.
00:06:11Now,
00:06:12was there any resemblance
00:06:13between her voice
00:06:14and the voice of the woman
00:06:15who passed on the message
00:06:16to you?
00:06:17I would say
00:06:18none at all.
00:06:19Yes.
00:06:20Thank you,
00:06:20Miss Monroe.
00:06:21My Lord,
00:06:22I would like to avail myself
00:06:23of the permission
00:06:24already granted
00:06:25to my learned friend
00:06:26by asking the defendant,
00:06:29Davideena MacLeod,
00:06:30to speak once more.
00:06:31Very well.
00:06:32Miss MacLeod?
00:06:33Miss, yes.
00:06:35Now,
00:06:35would you mind
00:06:36saying something
00:06:37in what has been described
00:06:38in this court
00:06:39as a pan-loaf accent?
00:06:41Had you anything specific
00:06:42in mind?
00:06:43Well,
00:06:43actually,
00:06:44I hadn't,
00:06:44but now that you mention it,
00:06:45why not repeat the message
00:06:47that Miss Monroe received?
00:06:49Gladly,
00:06:49if you'll tell me what is.
00:06:51Target,
00:06:53tanker,
00:06:54tomorrow,
00:06:54termite.
00:06:56Target,
00:06:57tanker,
00:06:58tomorrow,
00:07:00termites.
00:07:01Yes,
00:07:02thank you.
00:07:03Well,
00:07:04Miss Monroe?
00:07:05Well,
00:07:06the accent's a bit much,
00:07:08perhaps.
00:07:09Yes,
00:07:09but did that sound
00:07:10like your mysterious caller?
00:07:14Yes,
00:07:14it did.
00:07:15Thank you very much,
00:07:16Miss Monroe.
00:07:17I call
00:07:18Peter Telfer.
00:07:24Peter Telfer.
00:07:35Take the Bible
00:07:35in your right hand,
00:07:37and read it out
00:07:37the words on the card.
00:07:39I swear by almighty God
00:07:40that the evidence
00:07:41I shall give
00:07:41shall be the truth,
00:07:42the whole truth
00:07:42and nothing but the truth.
00:07:44Your name is Peter
00:07:46Aloysius Telfer.
00:07:47Is that right?
00:07:49That's right.
00:07:50Sir?
00:07:51Yes.
00:07:52And you live at 115 Keir Hardie Road,
00:07:54Grangemouth,
00:07:55Stirlingshire in Scotland.
00:07:56Yes.
00:07:56What is your profession,
00:07:57Mr Telfer?
00:07:58I'm a long-distance lorry driver.
00:08:00And you are employed with
00:08:01Polestar Petroleum,
00:08:02are you not?
00:08:03I've been with him five and a half years,
00:08:04next Burns Night.
00:08:05Yes,
00:08:05now,
00:08:06Mr Telfer.
00:08:0625th of January to you.
00:08:10Yes,
00:08:10quite.
00:08:11Now,
00:08:11Mr Telfer,
00:08:12were you working on Tuesday,
00:08:14the 22nd of November,
00:08:161975?
00:08:17Yes,
00:08:17I was.
00:08:18I was taking one of the big tankers
00:08:19from Grangemouth to Fullchester.
00:08:21And did you leave Grangemouth
00:08:22at 2.15pm?
00:08:24On the dot,
00:08:25Jimmy.
00:08:26Mr Telfer,
00:08:28you will please address counsel
00:08:29in a more dignified manner.
00:08:32Well,
00:08:32everybody in Glasgow calls
00:08:33everybody else,
00:08:34Jimmy.
00:08:35That may very well be the case,
00:08:36but other parts of the country
00:08:38may not yet be ready
00:08:39for such a
00:08:41blatant democracy.
00:08:43Aye,
00:08:43okay,
00:08:44Judge.
00:08:45Thank you,
00:08:46my Lord.
00:08:47Mr Telfer,
00:08:49did you break your journey
00:08:50in Glasgow?
00:08:51Yes,
00:08:51I did.
00:08:52Always do.
00:08:53Go to an old mate of mine
00:08:54on Minerva Street.
00:08:55Jimmy Doherty.
00:08:56Used to drive the big motors
00:08:57till they got brewed up
00:08:58in a six-car pile-up.
00:08:59Now,
00:09:00was there a girl present
00:09:00at Mr Doherty's
00:09:01on that occasion?
00:09:02Aye,
00:09:02there was a wee bird present.
00:09:04Yes,
00:09:04now,
00:09:04can you see that wee bird
00:09:06here in court today?
00:09:08There she's sitting up there,
00:09:09next to Jackie Stewart.
00:09:11Jackie Stewart?
00:09:12That band part
00:09:12that smashed my motor up.
00:09:14Now,
00:09:14did your friend,
00:09:15Mr Doherty,
00:09:17ask you to do something
00:09:18for this girl?
00:09:19Yes,
00:09:19he asked me to give her a lift.
00:09:21Said she was a folk singer
00:09:22and that there was a gig
00:09:23waiting for her in Kendal
00:09:24if she could get there.
00:09:25Wee bird was brassic lint.
00:09:27Huh?
00:09:28Skint.
00:09:28Ah,
00:09:29yes,
00:09:29quite.
00:09:30Now,
00:09:30did you agree
00:09:31to give her a lift?
00:09:32Yes,
00:09:32I did.
00:09:33She was a friend
00:09:33of Teresa Gibson's.
00:09:35Well,
00:09:35I used to work
00:09:35for Teresa's old man.
00:09:37Yes,
00:09:37well,
00:09:37Mr Doherty,
00:09:37during your journey
00:09:38from Glasgow,
00:09:39did you have a conversation
00:09:40with Miss MacLeod.
00:09:41Ah,
00:09:42that's why you give folks lifts.
00:09:43Well,
00:09:44what subjects did you discuss?
00:09:46The bundle.
00:09:46I mean,
00:09:47you name it,
00:09:47we talked about it.
00:09:48Well,
00:09:48did you,
00:09:48for example,
00:09:49discuss politics?
00:09:50That's the one subject
00:09:51that everybody in Scotland
00:09:52is an expert on.
00:09:53Yes.
00:09:54Can you remember anything
00:09:56that Miss MacLeod said?
00:09:57Well,
00:09:58she was very heavy
00:09:59on the English.
00:10:00Said she hated to see
00:10:01an Englishman
00:10:02with a white woman.
00:10:05Really?
00:10:06Can you remember
00:10:07anything else?
00:10:08Yeah,
00:10:09she got all
00:10:10het up about oil.
00:10:11It was Scotland's oil,
00:10:12she said,
00:10:13and here was I
00:10:14driving it south
00:10:14to save England
00:10:15for going broke.
00:10:17Then she said,
00:10:18if I gave you the fee
00:10:19that I'm getting
00:10:20from this gig,
00:10:21would you turn your lorry
00:10:22round and take the oil
00:10:22back where it belongs?
00:10:24I told her to go
00:10:25and get raffled.
00:10:27Yes,
00:10:27Mr Selber,
00:10:28during the course
00:10:28of the journey,
00:10:29was there any further
00:10:29mention of
00:10:31Teresa Gibson?
00:10:32Yes.
00:10:33She said that
00:10:34Teresa Gibson
00:10:35was the Queen
00:10:36of the Catholic Mafia
00:10:37in Glasgow.
00:10:38Was that all
00:10:39she said about her?
00:10:40Yes.
00:10:41I think I discouraged her
00:10:42when I told her
00:10:43my middle name
00:10:44was Aloysius.
00:10:45Yeah.
00:10:46Now,
00:10:47Mr Selber,
00:10:47did you,
00:10:48that same night,
00:10:49about 9.15,
00:10:50stop for your second break?
00:10:52That's right.
00:10:53We stopped
00:10:53at Big Mabel's Cafe
00:10:54on the Kendall side
00:10:55of Shapp.
00:10:56Can you tell us
00:10:56what happened there?
00:10:58Well,
00:10:59I parked the motor
00:11:00and me and her
00:11:01went into the cafe
00:11:02and I asked her
00:11:03did she want
00:11:04something to eat
00:11:04and she said anything.
00:11:06But first,
00:11:06she had to go
00:11:07for a pee.
00:11:09Did the young lady
00:11:10fail to return
00:11:11and to rejoin you?
00:11:12Well,
00:11:13that's just what happened.
00:11:14I waited and waited,
00:11:15no joy.
00:11:17So I asked one
00:11:17of the waitresses
00:11:18to go and check
00:11:19in case she needed
00:11:19a plumber or something.
00:11:21You are saying,
00:11:22in fact,
00:11:22that she was away
00:11:23for an inordinate time?
00:11:25Yes.
00:11:25What did you then do,
00:11:27Mr Telfer?
00:11:28Went back to my
00:11:28bangers and chips.
00:11:29Mr Telfer?
00:11:31You seem to have
00:11:32accepted the disappearance
00:11:33of this young lady
00:11:34very calmly.
00:11:36Oh,
00:11:36well,
00:11:36you see,
00:11:37Your Honour,
00:11:37I mean,
00:11:38these skippers
00:11:39are headbangers.
00:11:41Skippers?
00:11:42Aye,
00:11:43we tats that travel
00:11:44up and down
00:11:44the motorway.
00:11:45The lads all call
00:11:45them skippers.
00:11:47Is that a new term
00:11:48for hitchhikers?
00:11:49Oh,
00:11:50no,
00:11:50sir,
00:11:50definitely not.
00:11:51I mean,
00:11:52no way.
00:11:52Oh,
00:11:52in what way
00:11:54does it differ?
00:11:55Well,
00:11:56to let you understand,
00:11:57Your Honour,
00:11:57you see,
00:11:58a hitchhiker
00:11:59is always going
00:11:59somewhere.
00:12:00I mean,
00:12:01you see them
00:12:01standing there
00:12:01by the roadside
00:12:02holding up a big
00:12:03chunk of cardboard
00:12:04with where they're going,
00:12:05written on it,
00:12:05you know,
00:12:06London,
00:12:07Inverness,
00:12:07Gary Salaam,
00:12:08or whatever.
00:12:09And this does not
00:12:10apply to skippers?
00:12:12Right.
00:12:13No,
00:12:13no,
00:12:13no.
00:12:13A skipper will get
00:12:14a lift from,
00:12:15say,
00:12:16Aberdeen to
00:12:16Southampton.
00:12:17Then she'll maybe
00:12:18pick up another lift
00:12:19to Bristol,
00:12:20and then maybe
00:12:21Bristol to Liverpool
00:12:22and so on.
00:12:23They spend their lives
00:12:24travelling in
00:12:25the lorry cabins.
00:12:28Extraordinary.
00:12:33Oh,
00:12:33I am so sorry.
00:12:35Oh,
00:12:36no.
00:12:36Now,
00:12:37Mr Silver,
00:12:38having had your
00:12:38second break,
00:12:40did you then
00:12:41leave the cafe
00:12:42in order to resume
00:12:43your journey?
00:12:44Well,
00:12:44that was intentions
00:12:45right enough.
00:12:46Yes,
00:12:46did something happen
00:12:46to prevent you
00:12:47from carrying out
00:12:48that intention?
00:12:49Aye,
00:12:50near lorry.
00:12:51Someone had taken
00:12:52your vehicle,
00:12:52is that correct?
00:12:53Correct.
00:12:53What did
00:12:54you then do?
00:12:55Phoned the police.
00:12:57Now,
00:12:57for how long
00:12:58had you left
00:12:59your vehicle
00:12:59unattended?
00:13:00Eh,
00:13:01half an hour,
00:13:02near enough.
00:13:03Tell me,
00:13:04Mr Silver,
00:13:04how far could
00:13:05your vehicle
00:13:06have travelled
00:13:07during the half hour
00:13:08in which you
00:13:08were absent?
00:13:09Oh,
00:13:10about 20 miles.
00:13:12Thank you,
00:13:12Mr Silver.
00:13:16Mr Telfar.
00:13:18Um,
00:13:21if you were asked
00:13:22to pick a girl
00:13:23as a decoy,
00:13:25what sort of qualities
00:13:26would you look for?
00:13:28Eh,
00:13:29well,
00:13:30first she'd have
00:13:31to be a looker,
00:13:32right?
00:13:32Well,
00:13:32I think we can
00:13:33take that for granted.
00:13:34And,
00:13:35eh,
00:13:36well,
00:13:37I think she'd have
00:13:38to be a hard wee cookie.
00:13:39Yes,
00:13:40what precisely
00:13:40do you mean by hard?
00:13:41Well,
00:13:42able to handle herself,
00:13:43you know.
00:13:44Anything else?
00:13:45Well,
00:13:46I,
00:13:47I mean,
00:13:47eh,
00:13:49do you think
00:13:49these qualities fit
00:13:50Ms McLeod?
00:13:51No.
00:13:52Eh,
00:13:52yes.
00:13:54No,
00:13:55and yes.
00:13:57I see.
00:13:59Now,
00:14:00Mr Telfar,
00:14:00I believe that
00:14:01lorry drivers
00:14:02as a group
00:14:02regard themselves
00:14:03as knights
00:14:04of the road.
00:14:06Some of us do,
00:14:07yes.
00:14:07Now,
00:14:07Mr Telfar,
00:14:08in the nightly circles
00:14:09you frequent,
00:14:10what's an artificial leg?
00:14:16Mr Telfar,
00:14:18you must answer
00:14:20the question.
00:14:22Well,
00:14:23an artificial leg
00:14:25is a,
00:14:25is a piece of wood
00:14:27that we sometimes
00:14:28use to keep
00:14:29the accelerator jammed down.
00:14:30On what occasions
00:14:31would it be used?
00:14:35Would it be used,
00:14:36for example,
00:14:37to release a driver,
00:14:39shall we say,
00:14:41being serviced
00:14:42by one of those
00:14:42Madonnas of the motorway,
00:14:43a skipper working
00:14:44her passage?
00:14:45What has that
00:14:46got to do with it?
00:14:47Mr Telfar,
00:14:48is it not the case
00:14:48that during the journey
00:14:49from Glasgow
00:14:50you behaved towards
00:14:51Ms McLeod
00:14:52as you'd have behaved
00:14:52towards the lowest
00:14:53of skippers?
00:14:55Did you not insult her,
00:14:56both physically
00:14:57and verbally?
00:14:59Did you not
00:15:00force your attentions
00:15:01upon her to the extent
00:15:02she took the first
00:15:02available opportunity
00:15:03of running away?
00:15:04She did not run away.
00:15:05It was all part
00:15:06of the plan
00:15:06between her
00:15:07and Stuart Mackenzie.
00:15:09Now,
00:15:09let me refresh
00:15:09your memory
00:15:10for a moment,
00:15:11Mr Telfar.
00:15:11You said that
00:15:12Ms McLeod
00:15:12was absent
00:15:13for half an hour.
00:15:14Aye,
00:15:14near enough.
00:15:15Yes.
00:15:15How long are you
00:15:15allowed for your break?
00:15:17Half an hour?
00:15:18Yes.
00:15:18So that when you
00:15:18went back to your lorry,
00:15:20you were acting
00:15:20the same way
00:15:21as you would have done
00:15:22had Ms McLeod
00:15:22not been a passenger.
00:15:24What do you mean?
00:15:25What I'm trying
00:15:26to put to you
00:15:26is this,
00:15:27Mr Telfar.
00:15:27If you took
00:15:28your normal
00:15:28half-hour break,
00:15:29you could in no way
00:15:30have been suspicious
00:15:31of Ms McLeod.
00:15:32So how can you
00:15:33then say
00:15:33that you believed
00:15:34she was acting
00:15:34as a decoy?
00:15:39Oh,
00:15:40come on,
00:15:40do you think
00:15:40my bloody heat
00:15:41buttons up the back
00:15:42or something,
00:15:42Jimmy?
00:15:42Mr Telfar.
00:15:49TV lawyers.
00:15:57You are
00:15:58Police Constable
00:15:59Ian Murdoch Alcock
00:16:01of the Cumberland Police
00:16:02stationed in Kenville.
00:16:03That is correct, sir.
00:16:04And in the early morning
00:16:05of November the 23rd, 1975,
00:16:07you were on duty
00:16:08in Pandacar XBC 1003.
00:16:12At approximately 0045 hours
00:16:14on the 23rd of November 1975,
00:16:16I had reached
00:16:17in the course of my patrol
00:16:18a spot known
00:16:19to local ornithologists
00:16:20as Hoverhawk Hill.
00:16:21Yes, now,
00:16:22from this position,
00:16:23did you notice
00:16:23something unusual?
00:16:25Yes,
00:16:25a tremendous red glow
00:16:26in the sky
00:16:27to the northwest,
00:16:28a huge fire of some sort.
00:16:29Can you describe
00:16:30before the court
00:16:31what you saw?
00:16:32Well, sir,
00:16:33it was most impressive.
00:16:34There was an area
00:16:36roughly circular
00:16:37about 50 yards
00:16:38in diameter
00:16:38that was one great
00:16:39sheet of flames.
00:16:40In the centre
00:16:41was a white-hot mass
00:16:42which could be identified
00:16:43as a large articulated lorry
00:16:46which had finally
00:16:46come to rest
00:16:47upside down.
00:16:48There was a horrible
00:16:49smell of burning oil
00:16:50and a disgusting stench
00:16:52of roasting flesh
00:16:53and burning wool.
00:16:54Roasting flesh
00:16:56and burning wool?
00:16:58The lorry had landed
00:16:59among a flock
00:16:59of sheep, my lord.
00:17:00Now, Constable Alcock,
00:17:02did you form any opinion
00:17:03as to the cause
00:17:04of the accident?
00:17:05Well, the 100 yards
00:17:07before the scene
00:17:08of the accident
00:17:09is downhill, sir.
00:17:11The road's
00:17:11in a shocking state.
00:17:12It's bounded
00:17:13on either side
00:17:14by dry stone dikes
00:17:15and the landscape
00:17:17falls away
00:17:18sharply downwards.
00:17:19This creates
00:17:19a sort of optical illusion
00:17:21which makes
00:17:22the downward gradient
00:17:23of the road
00:17:23appear much less
00:17:24than it really is.
00:17:25Well, go on, please.
00:17:26Well, it seemed to me, sir,
00:17:27this was the primary
00:17:28cause of the accident.
00:17:30These monstrous machines
00:17:31require specialist handling.
00:17:33They have to break
00:17:34far sooner
00:17:35than ordinary lorries
00:17:36because of the movement
00:17:37of the liquid
00:17:38in the tanks.
00:17:39Why do you describe
00:17:40these vehicles
00:17:40as monstrous machines?
00:17:43Because, my lord,
00:17:43that is what I believe
00:17:44them to be.
00:17:46Aesthetically,
00:17:47ecologically,
00:17:48in a very possible way.
00:17:50Oh.
00:17:50You feel strongly
00:17:52on the subject, constable.
00:17:53Yes, my lord.
00:17:54I believe that
00:17:55small is beautiful.
00:17:56If you believe that,
00:17:57you hypocrite,
00:17:58why aren't you back home
00:17:59fighting for Scotland?
00:18:03Pirates in court!
00:18:04Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
00:18:07your position
00:18:08as defendant
00:18:09does not exclude you
00:18:11from the warning
00:18:11I have already issued
00:18:13in this court.
00:18:17Mr. Lattermore.
00:18:18My lord.
00:18:19Constable,
00:18:19did you eventually decide
00:18:21to take up your position
00:18:22at the top of this hill
00:18:23which you have described?
00:18:24Yes, sir.
00:18:25My idea was to forewarn
00:18:26the others coming
00:18:27of the danger
00:18:28which I have also described.
00:18:29Yes, quite.
00:18:30Now, did something happen
00:18:31as you were driving
00:18:32up the hill?
00:18:32Yes, sir.
00:18:33I had a sudden impression
00:18:34of movement
00:18:35on the other side
00:18:35of the dry stone dike
00:18:36on the right-hand side
00:18:37of the car.
00:18:38I immediately
00:18:39stopped the vehicle
00:18:40and went over
00:18:41and looked over the wall.
00:18:42A man was
00:18:43cowering down behind it.
00:18:45Do you recognise
00:18:45that man here
00:18:46in court today?
00:18:47Yes, sir.
00:18:47The defendant,
00:18:48Stuart McKenzie.
00:18:49Did you say anything
00:18:49to him?
00:18:50Yes, sir.
00:18:51I said,
00:18:52did you have anything
00:18:53to do with that
00:18:53blazing lorry down there?
00:18:55Did he reply?
00:18:56Yes.
00:18:56He said,
00:18:57piss off,
00:18:57I've broken my ankle.
00:19:01Now, Constable Alcock,
00:19:03you were alone
00:19:04with Stuart McKenzie
00:19:05for some time,
00:19:06were you not?
00:19:06Twenty-three and a half minutes, sir.
00:19:08What happened
00:19:09during that time?
00:19:10Well, initially,
00:19:11Stuart McKenzie
00:19:12was in some pain,
00:19:13but once I'd administered
00:19:14first aid to his ankle,
00:19:15he was disposed
00:19:17to conversation.
00:19:18Yes, well,
00:19:18tell us about that
00:19:19conversation, Constable.
00:19:20Well, sir,
00:19:20the first thing he said was,
00:19:22do you realise
00:19:23that perhaps
00:19:24four hundred years ago
00:19:25on a night such as this,
00:19:26our ancestors
00:19:27were probably taken
00:19:28and stolen English cattle
00:19:29along this very place
00:19:31we're sitting in.
00:19:32And then he embarked
00:19:33on a monologue.
00:19:34He began with
00:19:35Edward I,
00:19:36Longshanks,
00:19:37and his cruel,
00:19:39bitter,
00:19:39and ultimately
00:19:40unsuccessful attempts
00:19:41to subjugate the Scots.
00:19:43He said that
00:19:43Edward I,
00:19:44who did not speak English,
00:19:46formed the English
00:19:47ruling class mind,
00:19:48arrogant,
00:19:49cunning rather than clever,
00:19:50and above all,
00:19:51legalistic.
00:19:53Edward used to
00:19:53forge documents
00:19:54which gave him
00:19:55legal rights
00:19:56to illegal usurpations.
00:19:58Well,
00:19:58Stuart McKenzie said
00:19:59that this argued
00:20:00a rudimentary conscience
00:20:01which the English
00:20:02had since lost.
00:20:03Nowadays,
00:20:04irrespective of their politics,
00:20:06they are still thieves,
00:20:07colonial thieves,
00:20:08and everyone knew
00:20:10that people in power
00:20:11never gave up the power
00:20:12without violence,
00:20:13and that therefore
00:20:14the Scots would have
00:20:14to fight to keep their oil
00:20:16as they had to fight
00:20:17to keep any sense
00:20:18of identity
00:20:18for centuries past.
00:20:20Constable,
00:20:21is all that on
00:20:22one page
00:20:23of your notebook?
00:20:25My handwriting's
00:20:26very small,
00:20:26formal law.
00:20:28Constable,
00:20:29did you say anything
00:20:30in reply
00:20:31to all that?
00:20:33I said, sir,
00:20:34that I could not
00:20:35find it in my heart
00:20:37to disagree with him.
00:20:40Thank you,
00:20:40Constable.
00:20:42Constable Alcott,
00:20:43there was a rather
00:20:44macabre moment
00:20:45in your evidence-in-chief
00:20:46when you mentioned
00:20:47the roasting flesh
00:20:48and burning wool.
00:20:49Oh, yes,
00:20:50the sheep, sir.
00:20:50Yes, you mentioned
00:20:51the blazing lorry
00:20:52had landed in
00:20:53among a flock of sheep.
00:20:54Is that correct?
00:20:55That is correct, sir.
00:20:56Was the entire flock
00:20:58killed instantaneously?
00:21:00By no means, sir.
00:21:01What actually happened?
00:21:03Well, sir,
00:21:04some of them
00:21:04were killed outright,
00:21:05of course,
00:21:06but others
00:21:07were running around
00:21:08blazing all over the place.
00:21:10So,
00:21:11I put a shot
00:21:12into the poor beasts.
00:21:14You were armed?
00:21:17Yes,
00:21:18with a shotgun.
00:21:20My own private property
00:21:21happened to be
00:21:22in the back
00:21:23of my vehicle.
00:21:24And, of course,
00:21:25not for your protection,
00:21:26Constable.
00:21:26Oh, no, my lord,
00:21:27for rabbits and hares.
00:21:29And other things
00:21:30that are small
00:21:32and beautiful?
00:21:39Mr. Parsons.
00:21:40Constable Alcott,
00:21:41you made absolutely
00:21:42no mention
00:21:43of the plight
00:21:43of these poor creatures
00:21:44when you reported
00:21:45back to headquarters.
00:21:46A question of priorities, sir.
00:21:48What precisely
00:21:48were those priorities?
00:21:51I'm sorry,
00:21:52I don't understand, sir.
00:21:53I'm suggesting to you,
00:21:54you were not carrying
00:21:55that gun
00:21:55for rabbits and hares,
00:21:57but because you've been told
00:21:58there might be
00:21:59bigger game afoot
00:22:00that night.
00:22:01No, sir.
00:22:02And that you knew
00:22:03that the constables
00:22:03who were coming
00:22:04to join you
00:22:05were armed as well.
00:22:07I knew nothing
00:22:07of the sort, sir.
00:22:15One moment,
00:22:16Mr. Parsons.
00:22:17Mm-hmm.
00:22:27Ladies and gentlemen,
00:22:28I have just received
00:22:29a message
00:22:30that a bomb warning
00:22:32is in operation.
00:22:34I shall therefore ask you
00:22:35to clear the court.
00:22:37We will dispense
00:22:38with customary ritual.
00:22:41Take down the defendant.
00:22:46Now, my dear Collins,
00:22:49we cannot have
00:22:50one of her majesty's justices
00:22:52seen to be the first
00:22:53to abandon ship.
00:22:54Now, will members
00:22:55of the jury
00:22:56please file out?
00:23:00Now, members
00:23:01of the public
00:23:11will all officers
00:23:13of the court
00:23:13please leave?
00:24:04The cases in Forchester are fictitious.
00:24:07Join us tomorrow when the Queen against MacLeod and Mackenzie
00:24:10will be resumed in the Crown Court.
00:24:26My name is Raymond Cornelius Burdenbank.
00:24:28I'm a superintendent in the special branch, Strathclyde Police.
00:24:32I'm stationed in Glasgow.
00:24:42Davidino MacLeod and Hamish Stewart Mackenzie
00:24:44are charged with stealing an oil tanker lorry.
00:24:47Evidence for the prosecution is still being given.
00:24:50The jury in this trial has been selected from members of the public,
00:24:53whose names appear on the electoral register
00:24:55and who are eligible for jury service.
00:24:57It's quite a tough area in which to serve.
00:24:59Now, superintendent, what was the situation
00:25:02on the morning of the 22nd of November, 1975?
00:25:06The situation was that we knew a tanker was going to be attacked.
00:25:09We knew the organisation that had planned the attack
00:25:12and we even knew the people that were going to carry out the attack.
00:25:15How did you know that, superintendent?
00:25:18Information received, my lord.
00:25:20Hmm.
00:25:21Mr. Lattimore Banker, my lord.
00:25:23Now, you say, superintendent, that you knew who the people were
00:25:27who were going to carry out this attack.
00:25:28Yes, sir.
00:25:29Can you see those people here in court today?
00:25:32I really must object, my lord.
00:25:33If my learned friend is going to establish identity at this early stage,
00:25:37surely he must establish a pattern of event information and deduction
00:25:41pointing in the direction of that identity.
00:25:42I am inclined to agree, Mr. Varsen.
00:25:45Well, as your lordship pleases.
00:25:48Now, on the night we have mentioned, superintendent,
00:25:50who was in charge of the anti-hijack operation?
00:25:53I was.
00:25:54Where were you operating from?
00:25:55Police station Kendall.
00:25:57At what time did things begin to happen?
00:25:59About quarter to one in the morning.
00:26:00Well, what was the sequence of events?
00:26:02Well, I suppose the kick-off was when Constable Alcock phoned in
00:26:06reporting a crashed tanker in flames
00:26:09at the foot of a place known as Hoverhawk Hill.
00:26:11Well, on that report, what action did you take?
00:26:13I immediately set off in a police car.
00:26:16And when I got to the scene,
00:26:17Constable Alcock was standing beside a man who was seated in the grass.
00:26:21The man's right leg was sticking out straight in front of him.
00:26:25And his right ankle had been roughly splintered.
00:26:28Yes.
00:26:28Now, is the man you saw here in court today?
00:26:32Yes.
00:26:32The defendant, Hamish Stuart McKenzie.
00:26:35Did he say something to you that evening?
00:26:37He said, look at me, busy bee.
00:26:40I fell off the back of a lorry.
00:26:43Yes.
00:26:43Now, did you later on that same evening interview
00:26:47the accused Hamish Stuart McKenzie?
00:26:49I did.
00:26:50Where did this interview take place?
00:26:52Ward 7 of the Cottage Hospital in Kendall.
00:26:54Now, on that occasion, did you charge Hamish Stuart McKenzie?
00:26:57I did.
00:26:59He then said he wished to make a statement.
00:27:00So I wrote the caution at the top of the statement,
00:27:03which he then signed.
00:27:04Now, will you please read that statement to the court,
00:27:06Exhibit 4, please?
00:27:15Astonishingly, I find myself charged
00:27:16by Superintendent Raymond Burnbank
00:27:18with the crime of theft.
00:27:20I am at a loss to understand this,
00:27:22since all I did was simply to repossess Scottish oil,
00:27:26which had been arbitrarily and illegally taken away
00:27:29from the Scottish people
00:27:30without due property,
00:27:32without proper authority or cause.
00:27:34Now, after he made that statement,
00:27:36did you ask him if he wished to alter it in any way?
00:27:39I did, and he said no, and he then signed it.
00:27:41Now, can you now tell us what happened
00:27:43with regard to the other accused, Davidina MacLeod?
00:27:46Well, at about 11.20 on the 23rd of November,
00:27:50I received a telephone call
00:27:52from the Marine Division Police Station in Glasgow,
00:27:54telling me that Miss MacLeod had returned to the city.
00:27:57As a result of this call, what did you do?
00:27:59I went straight to Glasgow,
00:28:00went to the flat where Miss MacLeod lives,
00:28:02but I had to knock several times in the door
00:28:04before she answered.
00:28:05Well, when she finally opened the door,
00:28:07did she say anything?
00:28:08She said,
00:28:10Christ, Burnbank,
00:28:11you have been reading your Gestapo manual again.
00:28:13It's four o'clock in the bloody morning.
00:28:15Yes, now, what in actual fact was the time?
00:28:19Oh, just about 2 a.m.
00:28:20Did you then take her into custody?
00:28:22I did.
00:28:23Has Miss MacLeod also made a statement?
00:28:25She has.
00:28:26Where was this statement made?
00:28:27Marine Division Police Station in Glasgow.
00:28:30After she was charged?
00:28:31Yes.
00:28:32After she was charged,
00:28:33she said she would like to make a statement.
00:28:34So I wrote the caution at the top of the statement,
00:28:38which she then signed.
00:28:39Yes, now, will you please read that statement to the court?
00:28:41Exhibit 5, please.
00:28:46I wish to deny emphatically
00:28:48being in any way involved
00:28:50in the so-called theft of an oil tanker lorry
00:28:52from outside the motorway cafe
00:28:55called Big Mabel's on the outskirts of Kendall.
00:28:58My presence there at the time of the incident
00:29:00was purely coincidental.
00:29:01The occurrences arising from the fact
00:29:04they had actually hitchhiked south
00:29:06in the actual lorry that was later taken away.
00:29:08The reason for my journey south
00:29:10was to fulfil an engagement
00:29:11which had been offered to me
00:29:13by Mrs. Theresa Gibson
00:29:14and which subsequently turned out
00:29:16never to have existed.
00:29:18Well, after she made the statement,
00:29:20I asked her if she wanted to change it in any way.
00:29:22She said no.
00:29:23She then signed the statement.
00:29:24Yes.
00:29:24My lord, the Mrs. Theresa Gibson
00:29:26referred to in the statement
00:29:27will be giving evidence later.
00:29:29Now, Superintendent Burnback,
00:29:32how would you describe the accused,
00:29:34Hamish Stuart McKenzie?
00:29:36I would describe him
00:29:37as a highly dangerous subversive.
00:29:40Yes.
00:29:40And the accused, Damadina MacLeod?
00:29:43In the same category.
00:29:44My lord, up until now,
00:29:46we've had the trial of two people
00:29:48with certain political ideas
00:29:50and a charge of theft.
00:29:52The introduction of Superintendent Burnback's opinions
00:29:56is a dangerous tendency
00:29:57to alter the whole course and nature
00:29:59of these proceedings
00:30:00to result in two people
00:30:02with certain political ideas
00:30:03being tried for holding
00:30:05these political ideas.
00:30:06Well, I would respectfully submit,
00:30:09my lord,
00:30:10that any change in the character
00:30:11of this trial,
00:30:12if indeed there has been a change,
00:30:14comes less from what my learned friend
00:30:16calls Superintendent Burnback's opinions
00:30:18than from the opinions
00:30:20of my learned friend's client,
00:30:21Hamish Stuart McKenzie,
00:30:23on the exclusively Scottish ownership
00:30:26of North Sea Oil.
00:30:27Hmm.
00:30:28I can see merit in both arguments.
00:30:32My own feeling is
00:30:34that we have here
00:30:35a delicate balance
00:30:36which it is a matter
00:30:37for the jury to consider.
00:30:40That being so,
00:30:41I am prepared to uphold
00:30:43the line taken
00:30:44by the prosecuting counsel.
00:30:47Would you like to please this?
00:30:48Thank you, my lord.
00:30:50Now, Superintendent,
00:30:51you have described
00:30:51Hamish Stuart McKenzie
00:30:52as a highly dangerous subversive.
00:30:55Can you tell us why?
00:30:56Well, he's openly a Republican
00:30:58and anti-monarchist.
00:31:00On two occasions,
00:31:01he has visited
00:31:01the Chinese embassy in London.
00:31:03He keeps open house
00:31:05for known Breton extremists
00:31:07and he publishes
00:31:08a sort of broadsheet
00:31:10called The Trustees,
00:31:12which he's declared
00:31:12to be the voice
00:31:13of the national anarchist.
00:31:15Yes, quite.
00:31:16Now, in which way
00:31:17is Davidina MacLeod
00:31:19inclined politically?
00:31:21In the special branch,
00:31:22we call her Trilby.
00:31:24Well, would you please
00:31:24explain that reference?
00:31:26Well, Trilby's a character,
00:31:28a heroine in a novel,
00:31:29a Victorian novel,
00:31:30I think.
00:31:31She wasn't a very clever girl,
00:31:33but she became a great singer
00:31:35through the evil genius
00:31:36of a man called Svengali.
00:31:39Well, without him,
00:31:41she was nothing.
00:31:42Are you saying
00:31:43that Miss MacLeod
00:31:45was Trilby
00:31:46to Mr Stuart McKenzie's
00:31:48Svengali
00:31:49and that without him
00:31:51she was nothing?
00:31:53Well, I would prefer
00:31:54to look at it
00:31:55from another angle,
00:31:55my lord.
00:31:57And what angle
00:31:57is that, Superintendent?
00:31:59But while she is with him,
00:32:01she's a very,
00:32:02very dangerous woman.
00:32:03Oh, thank you, Superintendent.
00:32:05Mr Latton?
00:32:06I have no more questions,
00:32:07my lord.
00:32:09Superintendent,
00:32:10you have made
00:32:11what I can only call
00:32:12a sort of blanket accusation
00:32:14against Mr Stuart McKenzie.
00:32:17I'd like to take
00:32:18the various accusations
00:32:19one by one,
00:32:19if I may.
00:32:21You said, first of all,
00:32:22that Mr Stuart McKenzie
00:32:24was openly Republican
00:32:25and anti-monarchy.
00:32:27Is that right?
00:32:27That is right.
00:32:28The Superintendent,
00:32:29a recent poll
00:32:30in one of the Scottish papers
00:32:31says that 40% of the Scots
00:32:33now want independence.
00:32:35All the other polls
00:32:36agree that the figure
00:32:37is 22%.
00:32:39Well, whatever
00:32:40the actual figure,
00:32:41the independence
00:32:42carries with it
00:32:43the democratic idea.
00:32:45Now, you're not going
00:32:46to label, what,
00:32:47a million or so
00:32:48of your fellow countrymen
00:32:50subversives.
00:32:51Obviously not.
00:32:52But surely Mr Stuart McKenzie
00:32:55is one of that
00:32:55million or so people.
00:33:01Now, on two occasions
00:33:03he has visited
00:33:04the Chinese embassy
00:33:05in London.
00:33:07Now, is it not true,
00:33:08Superintendent,
00:33:09that on the first occasion
00:33:10Mr Stuart McKenzie
00:33:11was accepting
00:33:12on behalf of a dead friend
00:33:14an award for service
00:33:15to the Chinese community
00:33:17in Glasgow?
00:33:19Are the Chinese in Glasgow
00:33:20subversive to a man?
00:33:22I should imagine not.
00:33:25I'm afraid, Superintendent,
00:33:26you imagine too much.
00:33:30The second visit
00:33:31to the Chinese embassy
00:33:33was as a member
00:33:33of the Scottish-Chinese
00:33:35Friendship Society.
00:33:36Now, another member
00:33:37of that delegation
00:33:38was the Lord Provost
00:33:39of Glasgow.
00:33:40I'm not suggesting
00:33:41the Lord Provost
00:33:42of Glasgow
00:33:42as a subversive.
00:33:44No, sir.
00:33:47Open house
00:33:48for Breton extremists.
00:33:50Do you know
00:33:50a man in Glasgow
00:33:51called Jacques Pilou?
00:33:53Oh, I know the man.
00:33:54Yes.
00:33:55What do you know
00:33:55about him?
00:33:56He's a member
00:33:57of the Free Breton Society.
00:33:59Yes.
00:33:59Is he an active member?
00:34:01They have no
00:34:02inactive members.
00:34:03Has he ever
00:34:03been in trouble?
00:34:05Never been able
00:34:06to probably prove
00:34:06anything against them.
00:34:08Hmm.
00:34:08I suppose that's
00:34:09a special branch
00:34:10way of saying no.
00:34:11My Lord, I protest
00:34:12that is a most
00:34:13improper remark.
00:34:14I thoroughly agree.
00:34:16Mr Parsons,
00:34:17would you please
00:34:18refrain from
00:34:19making provocative
00:34:21comments?
00:34:22Very good, my Lord.
00:34:24Superintendent Burnback,
00:34:26what is Pilou's
00:34:27connection with
00:34:27Hamish Stuart Mackenzie?
00:34:29Oh, they're
00:34:30frequently in each
00:34:30other's company.
00:34:31They visit each
00:34:32other's houses.
00:34:33They share
00:34:34public platforms
00:34:35together.
00:34:36Yes.
00:34:36Is Jacques Pilou
00:34:37married?
00:34:38Yes.
00:34:39Do you know
00:34:40his wife's maiden
00:34:41name?
00:34:44Well, do you,
00:34:45Superintendent?
00:34:46I do, yes.
00:34:47Will you please
00:34:48tell the court
00:34:49what it is?
00:34:50Ursula Stuart Mackenzie.
00:34:54Is she an activist?
00:34:57You could say that.
00:34:58She's got nine children.
00:35:03Well, that leaves
00:35:03only one thing
00:35:04in your list
00:35:05of Hamish Stuart
00:35:05Mackenzie's transgression,
00:35:07sir.
00:35:07His broadsheet called
00:35:08a trustee.
00:35:09I have here
00:35:11two issues of it,
00:35:12exhibits two and
00:35:13three.
00:35:14Are you familiar
00:35:15with this publication,
00:35:16Superintendent Burnback?
00:35:18Oh, I wouldn't miss
00:35:19a single one
00:35:19of its erratic
00:35:20appearances.
00:35:21Good.
00:35:21Well, I'd like you
00:35:22to look at the one
00:35:22that is marked
00:35:24exhibit three.
00:35:25Yes.
00:35:26On page five,
00:35:27there's a column there
00:35:28I had it drops
00:35:29from the eaves.
00:35:29Do you see it?
00:35:31I see it, yes.
00:35:32Yes.
00:35:33It's almost like
00:35:33a gossip column
00:35:34in a more conventional
00:35:35magazine.
00:35:36Would you agree?
00:35:37Almost, yes.
00:35:38Yes.
00:35:38Now, I'm going to read
00:35:39out the third item.
00:35:41It says,
00:35:43Promotion to Superintendent
00:35:44is announced
00:35:45for Special Branch
00:35:46Hardman
00:35:46Chief Inspector
00:35:47Burnbank.
00:35:48Busy B,
00:35:49as he is known,
00:35:50is one of the late
00:35:51ex-province Malone's
00:35:52altar boys.
00:35:54Old Bugsy Malone,
00:35:56probably Glasgow's
00:35:57greatest ever
00:35:57political gymnast,
00:35:58was said to be able
00:36:00to kick people
00:36:00upstairs while
00:36:02they were kissing
00:36:02his arse.
00:36:05Now, have you
00:36:06any comment to make
00:36:07on that, Superintendent?
00:36:11Only that, uh,
00:36:13I would like to see
00:36:14whoever wrote
00:36:15the scene
00:36:15at home alone's face.
00:36:17Yes, but the
00:36:18inference is that
00:36:19he was using
00:36:19his influence
00:36:20to further your career.
00:36:22Well, he was
00:36:23very kind to me,
00:36:24but I certainly
00:36:25was never one
00:36:25of his, uh,
00:36:26altar boys.
00:36:28Yes.
00:36:29I see.
00:36:32Now, Superintendent,
00:36:33in, uh,
00:36:35Daffodina MacLeod's
00:36:36statement,
00:36:37there is a mention
00:36:38of a Mrs.
00:36:39Theresa Gibson.
00:36:40Ah, there is.
00:36:41Now, is Mrs.
00:36:42Theresa Gibson
00:36:43the daughter
00:36:43of the late
00:36:44ex-province Malone?
00:36:45Ah, she is.
00:36:46Yes.
00:36:47And is she
00:36:47a very close friend
00:36:48of yours?
00:36:50Yes.
00:36:51Yes.
00:36:52Thank you,
00:36:53Superintendent.
00:36:55Now, Superintendent,
00:36:56there are such things
00:36:57as front
00:36:58organisations,
00:36:59are there not?
00:37:00Oh, indeed, yes.
00:37:01How would you define one?
00:37:03Well, a front organisation
00:37:04is an organisation
00:37:05on the surface
00:37:07engaged in legal
00:37:08and even praiseworthy
00:37:09activities.
00:37:11But the real business
00:37:12goes on in the bike shop
00:37:13and it's neither legal
00:37:15nor praiseworthy.
00:37:16Yes, quite.
00:37:16Right, and the Scottish
00:37:17Chinese Friendship Society
00:37:19could fall into that
00:37:20category, could it not?
00:37:21Ah, quite easily.
00:37:23And would you agree
00:37:23that the million or so
00:37:24Scots who allegedly
00:37:26want independence
00:37:27are not all running
00:37:28about stealing
00:37:29and wrecking lorries?
00:37:31No, they are not.
00:37:32And you are convinced
00:37:33that Hamish Stuart
00:37:34Mackenzie
00:37:35is a dangerous
00:37:36subversive?
00:37:38I am.
00:37:39And a man is known
00:37:40by the company
00:37:41he keeps.
00:37:42Thank you,
00:37:43Superintendent.
00:37:45Superintendent Birnbank,
00:37:46would you not agree
00:37:47that the oil
00:37:48in the
00:37:50Polestar Petroleum
00:37:51lorry tanker
00:37:53belong to
00:37:53the Scottish people?
00:37:56Well, whoever
00:37:57it belongs to
00:37:57certainly doesn't
00:37:59belong to
00:38:00Hamish Stuart
00:38:01Mackenzie.
00:38:13I call
00:38:15Mary Teresa
00:38:16Gibson.
00:38:18Mary Teresa
00:38:19Gibson.
00:38:30Take the Bible
00:38:31in your right hand.
00:38:32Read aloud the words
00:38:33on the card.
00:38:34I swear by
00:38:35Almighty God
00:38:36that the evidence
00:38:36I shall give
00:38:37shall be the truth,
00:38:38the whole truth,
00:38:39and nothing but the truth.
00:38:41Is your full name
00:38:43Mary Teresa Gibson?
00:38:45Yes.
00:38:45And you live at
00:38:46Flat 34
00:38:47Lyster Court,
00:38:48Glasgow 2,
00:38:48in Scotland?
00:38:49Yes, I do.
00:38:49Are you married
00:38:50or single?
00:38:51Married,
00:38:52but I'm separated
00:38:53from my husband.
00:38:54And how do you
00:38:54earn your living,
00:38:55Mrs Gibson?
00:38:56Well, now,
00:38:57that's quite a question.
00:38:59I deal extensively
00:39:01in antiques,
00:39:02I run a model agency,
00:39:04and one that
00:39:04handles entertainers.
00:39:06And as if that
00:39:07wasn't enough,
00:39:08I'm also very active
00:39:09in local politics.
00:39:11And do you hold
00:39:12any position
00:39:12in local government?
00:39:14Not at the moment.
00:39:15No, you can
00:39:15hold the point
00:39:16that was so long.
00:39:17Thanks.
00:39:19Are you, um,
00:39:21are you acquainted
00:39:21with the defendants,
00:39:23Mrs Gibson?
00:39:24I am.
00:39:24Are you particularly
00:39:25acquainted with
00:39:26Davidina MacLeod?
00:39:28Well, I did tend
00:39:29to see more of her
00:39:30than of Mr Stuart Mackenzie,
00:39:32because of me running
00:39:33the entertainment agency.
00:39:34Yes, quite.
00:39:35Was she a client of yours?
00:39:36Well, actually, no.
00:39:39I mean,
00:39:39I don't normally
00:39:41handle folk singers.
00:39:42Can't stand them,
00:39:43actually.
00:39:44Most of them
00:39:45aren't singers,
00:39:46and some of them
00:39:47aren't even folk.
00:39:49Well, please go on.
00:39:50Well, frankly,
00:39:52speaking as a businesswoman,
00:39:54Davidina just isn't commercial.
00:39:56I mean,
00:39:57she restricts herself
00:39:58to such dreary material,
00:40:00old Scottish songs
00:40:01that nobody understands anymore,
00:40:03and all that political stuff.
00:40:06Political songs?
00:40:08I think protest
00:40:09is the word they use.
00:40:11She writes a lot
00:40:12of her own songs,
00:40:13and some of them
00:40:14are outrageous.
00:40:16Then again,
00:40:17she has a very small voice.
00:40:19Quite good, you know,
00:40:21but small.
00:40:22And she's absolutely
00:40:23no sense
00:40:24of how to present herself.
00:40:26Just stands there
00:40:27and sings,
00:40:29with her hair blinding her,
00:40:31and her clothes
00:40:32looking like she got them
00:40:33secondhand from a tatty bogle.
00:40:36Still,
00:40:37I did manage
00:40:38to put the occasional
00:40:39wee job her way.
00:40:40Yes, now, Mrs Gibson,
00:40:41Davidina MacLeod has said
00:40:42in a statement
00:40:43read before this court
00:40:45that on the night
00:40:46of the 22nd of November 1975,
00:40:48she was in Kendall
00:40:50as a result
00:40:51of being offered
00:40:52a job by you.
00:40:54Now, did you, in fact,
00:40:55ever offer her
00:40:56any such engagement?
00:40:58That is utter fantasy.
00:41:02Yes.
00:41:02Thank you, Mrs Gibson.
00:41:04Mrs Gibson,
00:41:05it would be almost true
00:41:07to say, would it not,
00:41:08that you are a member
00:41:09of a political dynasty.
00:41:12Yes.
00:41:13Almost like the Kennedys
00:41:15in America.
00:41:17Well, I hope not
00:41:18to like them.
00:41:20Now, your father
00:41:21was Lord Provost
00:41:22of Glasgow at one time.
00:41:23And a right old
00:41:24chanty-rassler he was too,
00:41:25Mr Telford.
00:41:28My father
00:41:30was Lord Provost Malone,
00:41:31a fine,
00:41:32highly respected man.
00:41:34Oh, come on.
00:41:35I'll work for him.
00:41:36He was so bloody big,
00:41:37he had front and rear lights.
00:41:38Remove that man at once.
00:41:41Eh?
00:41:52I'm not disturbed,
00:41:53Mrs Gibson.
00:41:54How long did you yourself
00:41:55hold public office?
00:41:57I was a ward councillor
00:41:58for Garangad East
00:42:00in Glasgow
00:42:00for five years.
00:42:02Yes.
00:42:02Until when,
00:42:03Mrs Gibson?
00:42:03Up until the last
00:42:04local elections.
00:42:05Yes.
00:42:05And did you lose
00:42:06your seat then
00:42:07to the candidate
00:42:07who represented
00:42:08the Scottish National Party?
00:42:10After three recounts.
00:42:11Quite.
00:42:12The Scottish National Party
00:42:13has been doing remarkably well
00:42:15in local elections recently,
00:42:16has it not?
00:42:17They've been quite successful.
00:42:19The newspaper comment
00:42:20sees it as making
00:42:21significant breakthroughs
00:42:22in the Industrial Belt,
00:42:24previously dominated
00:42:24by your party.
00:42:25There's a strong feeling
00:42:27that your party
00:42:28is running scarce.
00:42:29There's a Glasgow saying,
00:42:30if you believe
00:42:32all you read
00:42:32in the papers,
00:42:33you'll eat
00:42:34all you see.
00:42:36Couldn't you ask me
00:42:37something about antiques?
00:42:39Well, perhaps.
00:42:41That's what I am doing.
00:42:44Now, Mrs Gibson,
00:42:45are you familiar
00:42:45with this publication
00:42:46called The Trustee?
00:42:48I am.
00:42:49It's sold round
00:42:49the pubs in Glasgow.
00:42:51More accurately,
00:42:52certain pubs in Glasgow.
00:42:54Well, I'd like you
00:42:55to look at page four
00:42:56on this issue,
00:42:57Exhibit two.
00:42:58Now, there's a column
00:42:59there headed
00:43:02drops from the eaves.
00:43:04The second last item.
00:43:07Mrs Theresa Gibson,
00:43:09filler dealer,
00:43:10party hack,
00:43:11and perverter of flesh
00:43:11with the media,
00:43:12is opening a new
00:43:13antique shop in Edinburgh.
00:43:16Appropriately enough,
00:43:17it's in the grass market.
00:43:19Very cheap
00:43:19and very nasty.
00:43:21Yes.
00:43:21Now, grass market confers
00:43:22that you are a police informer,
00:43:24does it not, Mrs Gibson?
00:43:25I suppose so.
00:43:26People like myself
00:43:28are always the target
00:43:29of stuff like that.
00:43:30Yes.
00:43:31Now, Mrs Gibson,
00:43:33is Superintendent
00:43:33Burnbank a friend
00:43:35of your family's?
00:43:36Yes,
00:43:37and has been
00:43:37ever since I was
00:43:38quite young.
00:43:39Yes.
00:43:40And did your father
00:43:40use his influence
00:43:41to further his career?
00:43:43Not really.
00:43:44My father was
00:43:45a firm believer
00:43:46in people helping themselves.
00:43:48How do you want
00:43:49helping other
00:43:50patients?
00:43:51And I ask you,
00:43:54who are you laughing at,
00:43:55you bastard?
00:43:57Aye, you, Stuart McKenzie,
00:43:58you double-barreled twit.
00:44:00It's you that writes
00:44:00all the rubbish
00:44:01for the stinking rags.
00:44:03We know all about you,
00:44:04Stuart McKenzie,
00:44:05and that wee tart beside you.
00:44:07We'll sort you both out.
00:44:08Now, control yourself,
00:44:09Mrs Gibson.
00:44:15I beg the court's
00:44:16pardon, my lord.
00:44:18So you should.
00:44:21When you are ready,
00:44:22Mr Parson.
00:44:23My lord,
00:44:24Mrs Gibson,
00:44:25you made a statement
00:44:25just now.
00:44:26We'll sort you both out.
00:44:28Who did you mean
00:44:29by we?
00:44:30I meant myself
00:44:32and the people
00:44:32of the party
00:44:33I belong to.
00:44:34Yes, you didn't perhaps
00:44:34mean Superintendent
00:44:35Burnbank and yourself.
00:44:37Certainly not.
00:44:40Thank God.
00:44:45Mr Lattimore better
00:44:46than that.
00:44:48Mr Gibson,
00:44:48I believe you're on record
00:44:49as saying that if Scotland
00:44:50gains its independence,
00:44:51you will go into exile.
00:44:52Is that correct?
00:44:53Yes.
00:44:54I am one of thousands
00:44:55of Scots who feel like that.
00:44:56Surely that argues
00:44:57a tremendous hatred
00:44:58for the nationalist cause.
00:45:00I hate it
00:45:02because I think it is evil.
00:45:04And perhaps because
00:45:05it threatens a small,
00:45:06cosy political empire.
00:45:09and to be all
00:45:09thank you,
00:45:10Mrs Gibson.
00:45:11No further questions,
00:45:12my lord.
00:45:13Thank you,
00:45:13Mrs Gibson.
00:45:19Usher,
00:45:20would you please
00:45:21give that to his lordship?
00:45:23Yes.
00:45:24Is this the net
00:45:25I saw being passed
00:45:26by someone in the court?
00:45:27It is,
00:45:27my lord.
00:45:30Well,
00:45:31do you wish me to
00:45:32do something about this,
00:45:34Mr...
00:45:35Well,
00:45:35with your permission,
00:45:35my lord,
00:45:36I feel I have no option
00:45:37but to recall
00:45:38Miss Marilyn Monroe
00:45:40to the witness stand.
00:45:42Very well.
00:45:43Thank you,
00:45:44my lord.
00:45:44Marilyn Monroe...
00:45:49Miss Monroe,
00:45:51Miss Monroe,
00:45:53would you mind
00:45:54telling us
00:45:55what you wrote
00:45:56in that note?
00:45:57I wrote
00:45:58that Mrs Gibson's voice
00:45:59was the voice
00:46:00I heard on the telephone.
00:46:02Now,
00:46:02at what point
00:46:02in Mrs Gibson's evidence
00:46:04did you receive
00:46:05this sudden
00:46:06flash of illumination?
00:46:08It was where she said,
00:46:10this is utter fantasy.
00:46:12Please go on.
00:46:13Right,
00:46:14when I heard that
00:46:15I thought,
00:46:16aha,
00:46:16so I listened
00:46:17very carefully
00:46:18and then I heard
00:46:19the very word.
00:46:20What word was that?
00:46:21Target.
00:46:23She said,
00:46:24people like myself
00:46:25are always a target.
00:46:27Yes,
00:46:27but now,
00:46:27Miss Monroe,
00:46:28you have had already
00:46:29two rather
00:46:31inconclusive
00:46:31identifications
00:46:32to your credit,
00:46:33have you not?
00:46:34This is different.
00:46:35Miss Monroe,
00:46:37can you now
00:46:38say positively
00:46:39that the voice
00:46:40you heard
00:46:41was that
00:46:42of Mrs Therese's
00:46:43Sir Gibson?
00:46:45Well,
00:46:46I wouldn't go
00:46:47as far as that,
00:46:48Your Honour.
00:46:48I'm afraid
00:46:49you will have to
00:46:50go as far as that,
00:46:51otherwise you're
00:46:52wasting the court's time.
00:46:55Well,
00:46:57it could just as well
00:46:58have been her voice.
00:46:59No stronger than that.
00:47:02Miss Monroe,
00:47:03did you hear
00:47:04what I said?
00:47:06Yes,
00:47:07Your Honour,
00:47:08but I just
00:47:09don't think
00:47:10Davidina MacLeod
00:47:11did it.
00:47:36The cases in
00:47:40are fictitious.
00:47:41Join us tomorrow
00:47:41when the Queen
00:47:42against MacLeod
00:47:43and Mackenzie
00:47:43will be concluded
00:47:44in the Crown Court.
00:48:07Davidina MacLeod
00:48:08and Hamish
00:48:08Stewart
00:48:09McKenzie
00:48:09are accused
00:48:10of stealing
00:48:10an oil tanker lorry.
00:48:12The trial
00:48:12is in its final day
00:48:13and the defence
00:48:14is about to present
00:48:15its case.
00:48:16The jury in this trial
00:48:17has been selected
00:48:18from members of the public
00:48:19whose names appeared
00:48:20on the electoral register
00:48:21and who are eligible
00:48:22for jury service.
00:48:25Your name is
00:48:26Davidina Esther MacLeod.
00:48:27Yes.
00:48:28And you live
00:48:29at 25 Rothman Terrace,
00:48:30Glasgow.
00:48:31Yes.
00:48:32Now what do you do
00:48:32for a living,
00:48:33Miss MacLeod?
00:48:34I'm a professional
00:48:34folk singer.
00:48:35Yes.
00:48:36Do you handle
00:48:37your own business affairs
00:48:38or do you work
00:48:39through an agent?
00:48:39I handle my own affairs.
00:48:41Yes.
00:48:41Were you offered
00:48:42any professional engagement
00:48:44on the 22nd of November
00:48:451975?
00:48:47Yes, I was.
00:48:48Yes.
00:48:48Can you remember
00:48:49who offered you
00:48:49that engagement?
00:48:50Mrs. Teresa Gibson.
00:48:52Yes.
00:48:53And what were the details
00:48:54of the engagement?
00:48:55It was a folk concert
00:48:56in Kendall
00:48:57at the Methodist Church Hall.
00:48:58Yes.
00:48:59Now, Mrs. Gibson
00:49:00offered you this engagement
00:49:01although I believe
00:49:02she detests
00:49:03your politics.
00:49:05Mrs. Gibson's
00:49:06own politics
00:49:06have a sort of
00:49:07chameleon quality.
00:49:09Put them on top
00:49:09of a bank note
00:49:10and they turn the colour
00:49:11of money.
00:49:12Yes.
00:49:14Mr. Glad,
00:49:15how long have you
00:49:15known Mrs. Gibson?
00:49:17Nearly seven years.
00:49:18Can you remember
00:49:18the first time
00:49:19you met her?
00:49:20Yes, it was
00:49:21at a local branch
00:49:22meeting of the Labour Party.
00:49:23Yes.
00:49:24Can you remember
00:49:24a conversation
00:49:25you had with her
00:49:25that night?
00:49:26Yes, it was about
00:49:27the great need
00:49:28the party had
00:49:29for all the bright
00:49:30young people like me
00:49:31and the golden
00:49:32opportunities it offered
00:49:33to bright young people
00:49:34like me,
00:49:35blah, blah, blah.
00:49:36The man who drove
00:49:37me home that night
00:49:38was more direct.
00:49:38He said Teresa
00:49:40can make her
00:49:41break you
00:49:41in this town.
00:49:42Yes.
00:49:43Now, who was that
00:49:43man, Mrs. Maclyde?
00:49:46Superintendent Burnbank.
00:49:48Yes.
00:49:49Now, Mrs. Maclyde,
00:49:49can we get back
00:49:50to this engagement
00:49:51that Mrs. Gibson
00:49:51offered you?
00:49:52What happened
00:49:53after you had
00:49:54accepted it?
00:49:55Well, I had to
00:49:56get there somehow.
00:49:57I was a bit
00:49:57strapped for money
00:49:58so I decided
00:49:59to try and hitchhike.
00:50:01Yes.
00:50:01And when you were
00:50:02hitchhiking,
00:50:02Mrs. Maclyde,
00:50:03did you suffer
00:50:04an unpleasant experience
00:50:05at the hands
00:50:05of a Mr. Telfer?
00:50:07Hands is right.
00:50:08When we reached
00:50:09the cafe,
00:50:09I was out
00:50:10of that cabin
00:50:10before the tanker
00:50:11had stopped rolling.
00:50:12My first instinct
00:50:14was to get
00:50:14to where there
00:50:14were people.
00:50:15Is that why
00:50:16you ran inside
00:50:16the cafe?
00:50:17Yes.
00:50:18Then when I got
00:50:19inside,
00:50:19they were all
00:50:20sitting around
00:50:20there and they
00:50:21looked up and,
00:50:22Jesus,
00:50:22they were all
00:50:23Telfer's.
00:50:24So I sort of
00:50:25panicked again
00:50:26and went and
00:50:26shut myself
00:50:27in the bog.
00:50:27Yes.
00:50:28And then what
00:50:29happened,
00:50:29Mrs. Maclyde?
00:50:30Well, I told
00:50:31myself to calm
00:50:32down and I
00:50:32sorted my hair
00:50:33and slipped
00:50:34quietly out of
00:50:35the loo
00:50:35and started
00:50:36to suss the
00:50:36place out.
00:50:38There was a
00:50:38passage filled
00:50:39with crates
00:50:39of empty
00:50:40milk bottles.
00:50:41It led to
00:50:42the back
00:50:42of the
00:50:42calf,
00:50:43fields stretching
00:50:44away,
00:50:45lights in the
00:50:46distance.
00:50:47I just kept
00:50:47walking.
00:50:49To Kendall?
00:50:50Yes.
00:50:51I found the
00:50:52Methodist Church
00:50:53Hall.
00:50:54They'd never
00:50:54heard of any
00:50:55concert.
00:50:56Yes.
00:50:56So what did
00:50:57you do then,
00:50:58Miss Maclyde?
00:50:59I tried to
00:50:59phone Mrs. Gibson.
00:51:00Yes.
00:51:01Were you able
00:51:01to contact her?
00:51:02No.
00:51:05And did you
00:51:06then go back
00:51:06to Glasgow?
00:51:07No.
00:51:08I'd asked
00:51:08down the night
00:51:08in a hostel.
00:51:09The next day
00:51:10I walked back
00:51:11to Big Mabel's
00:51:11and waited for a
00:51:12lift.
00:51:12I see.
00:51:13When did you
00:51:13get back to
00:51:14Glasgow?
00:51:15I got home
00:51:16about half
00:51:17past eleven.
00:51:18I was in bed
00:51:18and asleep
00:51:19before midnight.
00:51:20Yes.
00:51:20And what
00:51:20happened then,
00:51:21Miss Maclyde?
00:51:22I was wakened
00:51:23by somebody
00:51:24pounding on
00:51:25my door.
00:51:26I opened up
00:51:26and there was
00:51:27busy being
00:51:28another policeman.
00:51:29Yes.
00:51:29Did you say
00:51:30something to
00:51:31Superintendent
00:51:31Birnbank?
00:51:32I said
00:51:33something to
00:51:34him about
00:51:34the Gestapo.
00:51:35He told me
00:51:35to get dressed
00:51:36that he was
00:51:37taking me in.
00:51:37Yes.
00:51:38What else
00:51:38did he say
00:51:38to you?
00:51:39When the
00:51:40other policeman
00:51:40was out
00:51:41of the room
00:51:41he said
00:51:42we've got
00:51:42the boy
00:51:43with a
00:51:43hyphen
00:51:43too.
00:51:44Now,
00:51:45meaning
00:51:45Mr Stuart
00:51:45Mackenzie?
00:51:47Yes.
00:51:47Did you
00:51:48reply to
00:51:48that?
00:51:49Yeah,
00:51:50I said
00:51:50this is
00:51:50a fit
00:51:51up
00:51:51Birnbank.
00:51:52You're
00:51:52fitting
00:51:52me
00:51:52up.
00:51:53You
00:51:53and
00:51:53that
00:51:54bloody
00:51:54Catholic
00:51:54mafia
00:51:55bird
00:51:55of
00:51:55yours
00:51:55are
00:51:56fitting
00:51:56me
00:51:56up.
00:52:01Now,
00:52:02Miss Maclyde,
00:52:03what reason
00:52:04do you have
00:52:04for making
00:52:05the accusation
00:52:06you've just
00:52:06made
00:52:06against
00:52:07Mrs Theresa
00:52:07Gibson?
00:52:08She
00:52:09hates
00:52:09my guts.
00:52:10Why?
00:52:11Because
00:52:11she thinks
00:52:11I was the
00:52:12cause of
00:52:12her being
00:52:13bombed out
00:52:13the last
00:52:14local
00:52:14elections.
00:52:15Can you
00:52:16explain that
00:52:16to the
00:52:17court?
00:52:18Long before
00:52:18polling day,
00:52:19all the young
00:52:20people in the
00:52:20party,
00:52:21people like
00:52:22myself,
00:52:23the bright-eyed,
00:52:24bushy-tailed
00:52:24youngsters Mrs Gibson
00:52:25wanted to
00:52:26encourage and open
00:52:27golden doors for,
00:52:29well, we were all
00:52:30pissed off with
00:52:31Mrs Gibson and our
00:52:32gang, so we got
00:52:33together and made
00:52:34a plan.
00:52:35And what was the
00:52:36plan?
00:52:37The day before
00:52:38polling day, we
00:52:39called a press
00:52:39conference.
00:52:40There were eight
00:52:41of us and we
00:52:42announced that
00:52:42we were resigning
00:52:43from the party
00:52:44because we no
00:52:45longer felt it
00:52:45was a democratic
00:52:46party and it
00:52:48had become
00:52:48simply a caucus
00:52:49dedicated to
00:52:50preserving its
00:52:50own power and
00:52:51nothing else.
00:52:53We accused it
00:52:54of graft,
00:52:55mismanagement,
00:52:56the lot.
00:52:57We said we
00:52:58were prepared to
00:52:58provide chapter
00:52:59and verse to
00:53:00substantiate our
00:53:01accusations.
00:53:02The papers
00:53:03played it up
00:53:04big the next
00:53:04day.
00:53:05Yes, and do
00:53:06you think that
00:53:06as a result of
00:53:07these activities
00:53:08Mrs Gibson lost
00:53:09the election?
00:53:10I do.
00:53:11And what are
00:53:12you suggesting
00:53:12was her reaction?
00:53:14Well, you heard
00:53:15her say in this
00:53:16courtroom that she
00:53:17regarded herself as
00:53:18a member of a
00:53:19political dynasty.
00:53:20I saw her Glasgow
00:53:22Kennedy clan.
00:53:23So what had
00:53:24happened to her was
00:53:24a kind of blasphemy
00:53:26and she wasn't
00:53:27going to forget
00:53:27the ringleader,
00:53:28me.
00:53:29Say, Miss MacLeod,
00:53:30will you tell the
00:53:30court what you
00:53:31think she did?
00:53:32I think she
00:53:33trumped up this
00:53:34whole case against
00:53:35me.
00:53:36I think the people
00:53:37responsible are
00:53:38Superintendent Burnbank
00:53:39and Mrs Theresa
00:53:40Gibson.
00:53:41Yes.
00:53:42Thank you,
00:53:42Miss MacLeod.
00:53:43Miss MacLeod,
00:53:44you are now a
00:53:45member of another
00:53:46political party,
00:53:47are you not?
00:53:48I am.
00:53:49What is the name
00:53:50of that party?
00:53:51It's called
00:53:52Trustees for
00:53:52Scotland.
00:53:53And would that
00:53:54trusteeship include
00:53:55the question of
00:53:56North Sea Oil?
00:53:58Scottish Oil.
00:54:00Scottish Oil?
00:54:01The oil's Scottish
00:54:02and should stay in
00:54:03Scotland.
00:54:04And if it does
00:54:05not, then people
00:54:06like you will
00:54:06fetch it back.
00:54:08You've heard my
00:54:09statement.
00:54:10My presence at the
00:54:11cath that night
00:54:12was pure coincidence.
00:54:13As my experience,
00:54:14Miss MacLeod tends
00:54:15to suggest that
00:54:16most pure
00:54:17coincidences,
00:54:18when examined
00:54:19closely, turn out
00:54:20to be impure
00:54:21falsehoods.
00:54:23Now, the
00:54:24trustees for
00:54:25Scotland.
00:54:26Is Hamish
00:54:27Stuart McKenzie
00:54:27also a member
00:54:28of that organisation?
00:54:30Yes.
00:54:31Is he the leader
00:54:31of the organisation?
00:54:33We don't have
00:54:34leaders.
00:54:35We are structured
00:54:35latterly, not
00:54:36vertically.
00:54:37That doesn't
00:54:38mean you have
00:54:38to lie down
00:54:39in your sight
00:54:39to question us.
00:54:40I'm grateful
00:54:41for the concession.
00:54:42Now, Miss MacLeod,
00:54:44what are the
00:54:44avowed aims
00:54:45of your organisation?
00:54:46There's only one
00:54:47aim, complete
00:54:48independence for
00:54:49Scotland.
00:54:50And Scottish
00:54:50Oil for
00:54:51Scottish people.
00:54:53Yes, that too.
00:54:55Now, you
00:54:56are a folk
00:54:57singer, Miss
00:54:58MacLeod, are
00:54:58you not?
00:54:59I am.
00:55:00And show
00:55:00business is a
00:55:01harsh, competitive
00:55:02world.
00:55:03It can be.
00:55:04To survive in it,
00:55:05you have to have
00:55:05your wits about
00:55:06you.
00:55:06Yes.
00:55:07There are a lot
00:55:07of sharks around.
00:55:09Yes.
00:55:10And yet, you
00:55:11have successfully
00:55:11managed to survive
00:55:12in this world for
00:55:13several years, Miss
00:55:14MacLeod, have you
00:55:15not?
00:55:15Yes.
00:55:16And you now ask
00:55:17us to believe that
00:55:18you shot off to
00:55:19Kendall on receipt
00:55:20of an alleged
00:55:21telephone call
00:55:22without checking
00:55:22out one single
00:55:24item?
00:55:24I do.
00:55:26Extraordinary.
00:55:27Especially when
00:55:27the alleged
00:55:28telephone call
00:55:28came from a
00:55:29woman whom, on
00:55:30your own
00:55:31statement, you
00:55:32had every reason
00:55:33to distrust and
00:55:34suspect.
00:55:35Now, Miss
00:55:36MacLeod, let us
00:55:37turn to your
00:55:38escape from a
00:55:39fate worse than
00:55:40death at the
00:55:41hands of Peter
00:55:42Telfer, the
00:55:42lorry driver.
00:55:43You say that you
00:55:44were very upset
00:55:45by this experience.
00:55:46And so I was.
00:55:48And yet, just
00:55:49over 12 hours
00:55:50after this
00:55:50devastating
00:55:51experience, you
00:55:53are back at the
00:55:53cafe and trying
00:55:54to hitch a return
00:55:55lift to Glasgow.
00:55:56Yes.
00:55:57Well, I think that
00:55:58shows an almost
00:55:59incredible resilience
00:56:00on your part,
00:56:01Miss MacLeod.
00:56:01Would you not
00:56:02agree?
00:56:02No.
00:56:03Or perhaps it
00:56:04merely shows the
00:56:06qualities of being
00:56:06the hard wee
00:56:08cookie which Peter
00:56:09Telfer, the lorry
00:56:10driver, referred to
00:56:11as being essential,
00:56:12in his opinion, for
00:56:14the role of a
00:56:14successful decoy.
00:56:17No way.
00:56:17I suggest, Miss
00:56:19MacLeod, that when
00:56:20you went out to the
00:56:21back of the cafe, you
00:56:22contacted Hamish
00:56:23Stuart McKenzie, and
00:56:24as soon as he and
00:56:25the lorry had gone,
00:56:26you then decided that
00:56:28your role as a decoy
00:56:29was no longer
00:56:30necessary, and you
00:56:31set off to Kendall.
00:56:32That's nonsense.
00:56:33Yes, I think you may
00:56:34well be a connoisseur of
00:56:35nonsense, Miss MacLeod.
00:56:37For instance, this
00:56:38allegation that
00:56:39Superintendent
00:56:39Birnbank and
00:56:41Mrs. Gibson
00:56:41decided to fit you
00:56:43up, as you call it,
00:56:44is also nonsense.
00:56:47No!
00:56:47I suggest that it is a
00:56:50smear tactic against two
00:56:52people who represent
00:56:53twin enemies, the
00:56:55police and your
00:56:56political opposition.
00:56:57I deny that.
00:56:59A smear tactic which
00:57:00you saw as a useful,
00:57:01if somewhat melodramatic,
00:57:03redheading to divert
00:57:04attention from yourself,
00:57:06from Hamish Stuart
00:57:07McKenzie, and from the
00:57:08theft of a tanker filled
00:57:10with oil.
00:57:10Ho-hum!
00:57:25I call Hamish Stuart
00:57:27McKenzie.
00:57:38Take the Bible in your
00:57:39right hand.
00:57:40You allow the words on
00:57:41the card.
00:57:42I swear by Almighty God
00:57:43that the evidence I shall
00:57:44give shall be the truth,
00:57:45the whole truth, and
00:57:46nothing but the truth.
00:57:49Your name is Hamish
00:57:50Charles Stuart McKenzie?
00:57:52It is.
00:57:53And you live at 57
00:57:53Robertson Avenue, Glasgow?
00:57:55I do.
00:57:56What is your profession,
00:57:57Mr. Stuart McKenzie?
00:57:58I'm a writer and
00:57:59freelance journalist.
00:58:00Yes.
00:58:01Now, Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
00:58:02you have made a statement
00:58:03which was read out in
00:58:04court, have you not?
00:58:05Yes.
00:58:06And in that statement
00:58:07you say that you are
00:58:07astonished to find
00:58:08yourself in a charge of
00:58:10theft, am I right?
00:58:11You are.
00:58:12Why are you astonished,
00:58:13Mr. Stuart McKenzie?
00:58:15The trouble with
00:58:16Scotland is that God
00:58:17created it upside down.
00:58:19You have read Buckle,
00:58:21haven't you?
00:58:22Um, I'm afraid not.
00:58:24George Bernard Shaw
00:58:25was right.
00:58:26The English do not
00:58:27deserve to have
00:58:27great men.
00:58:29Well, it might be
00:58:30better, Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
00:58:31if we stick to one point
00:58:32at a time.
00:58:33I've every intention
00:58:34of doing that,
00:58:35I assure you.
00:58:36And can we return
00:58:37to your astonishment
00:58:37at finding yourself
00:58:38on this charge?
00:58:39No, let's return
00:58:41to Buckle first.
00:58:42I'm sure the court
00:58:43would like to know
00:58:43why he wrote in
00:58:44one of his books
00:58:45that Scotland was
00:58:46unfortunate in being
00:58:47upside down.
00:58:48Well, I...
00:58:49His thesis was
00:58:50that most countries
00:58:50have natural boundaries
00:58:52which tend also
00:58:53to become natural
00:58:54defences,
00:58:55mountains,
00:58:56rivers, etc.
00:58:57And within these
00:58:58defences,
00:58:59a national culture
00:59:00and economy
00:59:01can develop
00:59:01with a minimum
00:59:02of hindrance
00:59:03and interference.
00:59:05Unfortunately,
00:59:06in the case of Scotland,
00:59:08the mountains
00:59:08which should be
00:59:09the barrier
00:59:09are all in the north,
00:59:11and the south,
00:59:12with its fertile plains
00:59:13and resources,
00:59:14is left totally
00:59:15defenceless
00:59:16against an aggressive
00:59:17and avaricious neighbour
00:59:19with ten times
00:59:20the population.
00:59:21Mr Stuart McKenzie,
00:59:22how far back
00:59:24is your defence
00:59:25liable to take us
00:59:26into the mists
00:59:27of history?
00:59:29I am not here
00:59:30defending myself,
00:59:32my lord.
00:59:32I do not acknowledge
00:59:33having committed
00:59:34any crime,
00:59:35and therefore
00:59:36no defence is necessary.
00:59:38However,
00:59:39if I were to be
00:59:39defending myself,
00:59:41I have always understood
00:59:42that the best defence
00:59:43is defence in depth.
00:59:45That is a sound
00:59:47military precept,
00:59:49Mr Stuart McKenzie,
00:59:50but the law
00:59:51is apt to lay
00:59:52more stress
00:59:52on the simple
00:59:53issue of relevance.
00:59:55Am I to infer
00:59:57from that,
00:59:58my lord,
00:59:58that you are imposing
00:59:59something like
01:00:00a guillotine procedure
01:00:01in Parliament?
01:00:02I am as little
01:00:04in favour
01:00:04of guillotine procedures
01:00:06as I am
01:00:07of filibusters.
01:00:09And I must point out
01:00:11to you,
01:00:11Mr Stuart McKenzie,
01:00:12that you are doing
01:00:13your case
01:00:13little or no good
01:00:14by adopting
01:00:16this attitude.
01:00:16The last reason
01:00:18of the king
01:00:18is always the sword.
01:00:21Yes.
01:00:22And, um,
01:00:24patriotism,
01:00:24Mr Stuart McKenzie,
01:00:26has been defined
01:00:28as the last refuge
01:00:30of a scoundrel.
01:00:31Now, that was said
01:00:32by an Englishman,
01:00:33my lord,
01:00:33and no doubt
01:00:35reflects the English
01:00:36experience.
01:00:38Hmm.
01:00:40Proceed,
01:00:41Mr Parson.
01:00:42Thank you,
01:00:42my lord.
01:00:43Mr Stuart McKenzie,
01:00:43am I right in thinking
01:00:44it is your contention
01:00:46that this court
01:00:46has neither validity
01:00:47nor authority
01:00:48to try this present case?
01:00:50That is my firm conviction.
01:00:52On what grounds
01:00:53do you base
01:00:54this conviction?
01:00:55On the grounds
01:00:56that this court
01:00:56is pre-empting
01:00:57a decision
01:00:58upon a claim
01:00:59that should first of all
01:01:00be passed upon
01:01:01by a higher court.
01:01:02What court is that,
01:01:03Mr Stuart McKenzie?
01:01:04The Court of Human Rights
01:01:05and the Hague.
01:01:06And can you tell us
01:01:07what that claim is?
01:01:08That Scotland ceased
01:01:09to be part
01:01:10of the United Kingdom
01:01:11250 years ago
01:01:12and has since been
01:01:14a separate
01:01:15and independent nation.
01:01:16Yes.
01:01:17What is that claim founded?
01:01:19On persistent
01:01:20and flagrant breaches
01:01:21of the Act of Union
01:01:221707.
01:01:25I see.
01:01:26Ah, Mrs Stuart McKenzie,
01:01:28could you then
01:01:28detail for the court
01:01:30what you consider
01:01:31to be the actual
01:01:32breaches
01:01:33of this treaty?
01:01:34The Scottish Mint.
01:01:36Mint?
01:01:36Mint.
01:01:37The only place
01:01:38you can be sure
01:01:38of making money?
01:01:39Yes, of course.
01:01:40Article 16 of the Treaty
01:01:41of Union stipulated
01:01:42that a mint
01:01:43shall be continued
01:01:44in Scotland
01:01:44under the same rules
01:01:46as applied
01:01:46to the mint
01:01:47in England.
01:01:48Yes.
01:01:48And this was not
01:01:49adhered to?
01:01:49The Edinburgh Mint
01:01:50did not produce
01:01:51one single coin
01:01:52after 1710,
01:01:53three years after
01:01:54the Union.
01:01:55And the English Parliament
01:01:56finally abolished it
01:01:57in 1817.
01:01:59Yes.
01:01:59Are there any other
01:02:00instances to put forward,
01:02:01Mr Stuart McKenzie?
01:02:02Article 20.
01:02:03What did that deal
01:02:04with?
01:02:05Heritable rights
01:02:05and jurisdiction.
01:02:07And what exactly
01:02:07were they,
01:02:08Mr Stuart McKenzie?
01:02:09Well, they were
01:02:09feudal courts.
01:02:10No big noble
01:02:11was complete
01:02:12without them.
01:02:13They were his own
01:02:14law courts
01:02:14where he or his
01:02:15representative
01:02:16could try cases
01:02:17and announce
01:02:18new estate laws.
01:02:19Yes.
01:02:20How extensive
01:02:20were the powers
01:02:21of these feudal courts?
01:02:22Oh, how extensive
01:02:23can you get?
01:02:24They had what was
01:02:25called the right
01:02:25of pit and gallows.
01:02:27The right of pit
01:02:28meant that they could
01:02:29lock you up
01:02:29and throw away the key.
01:02:30And the gallows bit
01:02:31is self-explanatory,
01:02:32is it not?
01:02:33It is.
01:02:35Now, what did
01:02:36Article 20 have to say
01:02:38about these feudal courts?
01:02:40That notwithstanding
01:02:41the treaty,
01:02:41they were to be
01:02:42reserved to their
01:02:43owners as rights
01:02:44of property.
01:02:45And these rights,
01:02:46I take it,
01:02:47were abolished?
01:02:48In 1747.
01:02:51The 1745 rebellion
01:02:52scared London,
01:02:53you see.
01:02:53Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
01:02:55I do not want
01:02:56the jury to get
01:02:57the impression
01:02:58that you are
01:02:58deploring the
01:03:00passing of
01:03:01these feudal practices.
01:03:03I take it, of course,
01:03:04that you do not.
01:03:05I think we were
01:03:06well rid of them,
01:03:06my lord.
01:03:10My lord.
01:03:11Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
01:03:12so far we have
01:03:13alleged breaches
01:03:13of Article 16
01:03:15and Article 20.
01:03:16Have you any
01:03:16further examples?
01:03:18I think we've got enough.
01:03:19Enough?
01:03:20For what?
01:03:20Enough to show
01:03:21the contract's been broken.
01:03:22You don't believe
01:03:23in the adage,
01:03:24Mrs. Stuart McKenzie,
01:03:25the more the merrier.
01:03:26I could throw in
01:03:27the treason act.
01:03:28Yes.
01:03:29The English scrapped
01:03:30ours and gave us
01:03:30theirs.
01:03:31Now, there was
01:03:31a sweet little number,
01:03:32specially invented
01:03:33by Edward I
01:03:34to deal with
01:03:35William Wallace.
01:03:35Did you know that?
01:03:36Actually, I didn't.
01:03:37Well, I'll give you
01:03:38the recipe to take home.
01:03:39First, catch your patriot,
01:03:41then hang him
01:03:42for a wee while,
01:03:43but not too fatally.
01:03:45Then cut him down,
01:03:46and with a good
01:03:47sharp knife,
01:03:47remove the intestines.
01:03:49Let's stand
01:03:50for a wee while,
01:03:51and then cut him
01:03:52to quarters.
01:03:53This innovation
01:03:54became known
01:03:54as being hung,
01:03:55drawn, and quartered.
01:03:57Yes, well,
01:03:58perhaps you were right,
01:03:59Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
01:04:00when you said
01:04:00enough is enough.
01:04:01Shall we sum up?
01:04:02Why not?
01:04:03It is your
01:04:05assertion that,
01:04:05because of various
01:04:06breaches of the
01:04:07Treaty of Union,
01:04:081707,
01:04:09that that treaty
01:04:10is now,
01:04:10and has been,
01:04:12for the past
01:04:13250 years,
01:04:14null and void.
01:04:15Well, exactly.
01:04:16And I'm saying
01:04:17that from the very
01:04:18first breach,
01:04:19the contract
01:04:20was broken,
01:04:21and Scotland
01:04:22reverted to its
01:04:23previous status
01:04:24as a separate
01:04:25and independent nation.
01:04:26And has remained
01:04:27in that state
01:04:28until the present day.
01:04:29Right.
01:04:30And because of that,
01:04:31this whole question
01:04:32of theft
01:04:33just does not arise.
01:04:34The oil is,
01:04:36beyond all
01:04:36contradictions,
01:04:37Scottish.
01:04:38And as a trustee
01:04:39for Scotland,
01:04:40I had a duty
01:04:41to repossess it.
01:04:42Yes.
01:04:43And the lorry,
01:04:45Mrs. Sturk-McKenzie?
01:04:46The lorry was part
01:04:47of the theft
01:04:47from Scotland.
01:04:49It, too,
01:04:49had naturally
01:04:50to be impounded.
01:04:51Yes.
01:04:52Is there anything
01:04:53further you'd like
01:04:54to say to the court,
01:04:55Mrs. Sturk-McKenzie?
01:04:56Yes.
01:05:02I resent,
01:05:03with everything
01:05:04I am capable of,
01:05:05these 250 years.
01:05:08I resent
01:05:09every wounded
01:05:10Highlander,
01:05:11who had his throat
01:05:12cut by the English
01:05:13soldiers at Culloden.
01:05:16I resent the Scotsmen,
01:05:18the friends
01:05:19of the people
01:05:19who were transported
01:05:20to Botany Bay.
01:05:23I resent the Weavers,
01:05:25who in 1820
01:05:26were hanged
01:05:27for taking part
01:05:28in a fictitious rebellion
01:05:29set up
01:05:30by an English agent.
01:05:33I resent Mrs. McCray,
01:05:36who had her
01:05:37two-month-old baby
01:05:38seized on the
01:05:39island of Skye
01:05:40for non-payment
01:05:41of rent.
01:05:43The baby was valued
01:05:44at sixpence.
01:05:47I resent the unknown
01:05:49men
01:05:49who were bundled
01:05:51into the emigrant ships
01:05:52during the clearances.
01:05:55I resent every
01:05:57miner who died
01:05:58in a Scottish pit.
01:06:01I resent
01:06:03every Scottish
01:06:03soldier,
01:06:04sailor,
01:06:06or airman
01:06:07who ever died
01:06:08in an English war.
01:06:11I resent
01:06:13the Scottish men
01:06:13and women,
01:06:15the bright ones,
01:06:17the clever ones,
01:06:19who had to take
01:06:20their brightness
01:06:20and their cleverness
01:06:22further
01:06:23of Scotland.
01:06:29my lord,
01:06:32at the Act of Union,
01:06:34the English paid us
01:06:35a sum of
01:06:38£398,085,10 shillings,
01:06:41a sum known
01:06:42as the equivalent,
01:06:44as compensation
01:06:45for the loss
01:06:46of our parliament.
01:06:50after 250 years,
01:06:53what do you owe us now?
01:07:12my lord,
01:07:13that is the case
01:07:14of the defence.
01:07:17Mr. Stuart McKenzie,
01:07:19did you take a tanker
01:07:21belonging to Polestar Petroleum
01:07:23from outside
01:07:24a transport cafe?
01:07:25I did.
01:07:27Did you do this
01:07:27with the assistance
01:07:28of Davadina MacLeod?
01:07:31No,
01:07:32I did it alone.
01:07:33Did you take it away
01:07:35and thus
01:07:35steal it?
01:07:37I took it away.
01:07:39I did not steal it.
01:07:50Members of the jury,
01:07:52you have heard
01:07:53all the evidence.
01:07:56It is now up to you
01:07:57to consider this evidence
01:07:59and to come to a decision.
01:08:01Now, this has been
01:08:02in many ways
01:08:03a complex case.
01:08:06There have been
01:08:07side issues raised.
01:08:09There have been
01:08:10undertones
01:08:11of personal rancour.
01:08:14Now,
01:08:14some of these undertones
01:08:16may be relevant.
01:08:18some of them
01:08:19you may feel
01:08:19should merely
01:08:20be taken at their
01:08:21face value
01:08:21and nothing more.
01:08:22One thing,
01:08:23however,
01:08:24I do want you
01:08:24to remember
01:08:25and it is most important
01:08:26that you should
01:08:27keep this
01:08:28in the forefront
01:08:29of your minds.
01:08:31You
01:08:32are the judges
01:08:34of fact
01:08:36and the basic fact
01:08:38in this case
01:08:38is that
01:08:39a theft
01:08:40was committed.
01:08:42It is now
01:08:43for you
01:08:44to decide
01:08:44by whom
01:08:46it was committed.
01:08:47By both
01:08:49the defendants
01:08:50or by one of them?
01:08:52Amy Stewart McKenzie
01:08:54has admitted
01:08:55taking the tanker.
01:08:57Did
01:08:58Davideena
01:08:59MacLeod
01:09:00assist him
01:09:01knowing
01:09:02that an offence
01:09:03was to be
01:09:04committed?
01:09:06Now,
01:09:07one final thing
01:09:07for you to bear in mind.
01:09:09The defendants
01:09:10are not required
01:09:11to prove
01:09:12their innocence.
01:09:14The prosecution
01:09:15has to prove
01:09:17the guilt
01:09:17of each one
01:09:19and you
01:09:20must be satisfied
01:09:22that it has
01:09:23been proved
01:09:23beyond all
01:09:25reasonable
01:09:27doubt.
01:09:29Now,
01:09:30that is all.
01:09:31You will now
01:09:32retire
01:09:33and consider
01:09:34your verdict.
01:09:39Will the foreman
01:09:40please stand?
01:09:42Just answer
01:09:43this question
01:09:43yes or no.
01:09:45Have you reached
01:09:45a verdict
01:09:46on which you
01:09:46are all agreed?
01:09:47Yes.
01:09:48On the charge
01:09:49of stealing
01:09:49a lorry,
01:09:50property of the
01:09:51Polestar Petroleum
01:09:52Company,
01:09:52how do you find
01:09:53the defendants?
01:09:55Davideena
01:09:55MacLeod?
01:09:56Guilty.
01:09:58Hamish
01:09:58Stuart McKenzie?
01:10:00Guilty.
01:10:01And are those
01:10:02the verdicts
01:10:02of you all?
01:10:03Yes.
01:10:10Hamish
01:10:11Stuart McKenzie,
01:10:13the offence
01:10:14for which you
01:10:14have been
01:10:15convicted
01:10:15is serious
01:10:16enough in itself.
01:10:18It is even
01:10:19more serious
01:10:20in that it is
01:10:21liable to
01:10:22touch off
01:10:23crimes
01:10:23of an
01:10:24imitative
01:10:25nature.
01:10:26The sentence
01:10:27of this
01:10:27court is
01:10:28six months
01:10:30imprisonment
01:10:31suspended
01:10:32for two
01:10:33years.
01:10:35Davideena
01:10:36MacLeod,
01:10:36I am satisfied
01:10:37you shared
01:10:38Stuart McKenzie's
01:10:40views.
01:10:42You now
01:10:43share his
01:10:43guilt.
01:10:45You will
01:10:46also share
01:10:47his sentence
01:10:47which is
01:10:49six months
01:10:50imprisonment
01:10:51suspended
01:10:52for two
01:10:54years.
01:11:06You
01:11:36CHOIR SINGS
01:11:46CHOIR SINGS
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