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El caso de Julio Platner es uno de los incidentes de presunta abducción más emblemáticos de la ufología argentina, ocurrido originalmente el 17 de noviembre de 1983 en Winifreda, La Pampa.
En el fragmento del programa "Contra reloj" de 1997, se produce un cruce histórico entre el testigo y figuras centrales de la investigación paranormal:
- Julio Platner: Relata su experiencia tras 14 años del suceso. Según su testimonio original, fue absorbido por una luz mientras cerraba una tranquera y apareció horas después en un lugar distante, con marcas en el cuerpo y recuerdos de haber estado en una sala con seres antropomórficos.
- Jorge Pizarro: Conductor del ciclo, conocido por su estilo periodístico incisivo, quien facilita la comunicación telefónica para analizar el caso en vivo.
- Sixto Paz Wells: Investigador y autor peruano, referente del contacto extraterrestre (Misión RAMA), aporta su perspectiva sobre la naturaleza de los "guías" y la posibilidad de comunicación interdimensional.
- Héctor Pico: Investigador argentino de larga trayectoria, quien abordaba este caso desde una perspectiva particular.

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00:00Sixto Passwell, right? Do you have a monitor handy?
00:04Yes, I'm seeing it, I'm seeing it right now, but I can't make out the face, let's say.
00:08I can't make out the face very well.
00:10Let's see if we can give you another close-up photograph.
00:14Yeah.
00:18So?
00:21Yes, correctly, yes.
00:23They are similar to the eyes of the being above, aren't they?
00:28But they were rounder, they were rounder, they weren't oval like this one.
00:34Did they have any special outfits or not, Sixto?
00:37Yes, yes, the suit was, let's say, a greenish, grayish color, something like that.
00:45But it was a suit, not skin.
00:48Well, I want to believe it was a suit, I can't say for sure, but it was there, it covered his face.
00:53It covered his entire body, his hands, his feet, everything.
00:56Hey Sixto, do you want to ask Julio something?
00:59Yes, well, it's already an honor to meet someone who, like many others in the world,
01:05because we claim to have had similar experiences.
01:07On that occasion, what I remember experiencing was an hour.
01:11Afterwards, when the ship landed, they left landing footprints at the site.
01:16The area was subsequently cordoned off by the Peruvian Armed Forces and is currently inaccessible.
01:21that place.
01:22I mean, if it really was a desert, I mean, no... and it's very close to a populated area.
01:28No, but what I want you to do when you talk to him is to specify that we can be spectators of assets.
01:34The experience is very similar because, firstly, when I enter the room,
01:38It was a hexagonal room with a series of inverted pyramids on the ceiling
01:44and there was something like two large cylinders
01:46And a hatch opened in front and five beings appeared.
01:49I mean, sorry, four beings the first time.
01:51There were four beings, one of whom was about six feet tall and quite robust,
01:55and three others very small and thin with large heads.
01:57Then the tallest one came walking towards me; he was wearing a bright suit that only revealed his face.
02:02the hands.
02:03His appearance was like that of an oriental, a wide face, but he could pass for a Mongolian, an oriental, a Korean.
02:08Now, those who came behind him were smaller and thinner beings,
02:12with a much larger head, the face was as white as milk,
02:15His eyes were bulging, or rather, they practically jumped out, dark, sunken in his face, almost filling it...
02:20Is it the same or more or less similar? Tell us.
02:26Sixto, I mean, Julio, can you hear me?
02:28Yes, I hear it, yes.
02:29Is what you saw and experienced the same as what Sixto recounts?
02:33No, no, what I saw, I mean, the eyes were black, let's say, they were dark black,
02:41let's say.
02:42And, well, the head was normal, the head was normal like any other being that's covered with something, right?
02:48it's true?
02:48You couldn't distinguish, for example, let's say, the nose, as if it were, let's say, a very small nose
02:57and a very small mouth as if it were postponed for some reason, let's say.
03:02Hector Pico, a scientific researcher, is with us.
03:05Hector, what certainty can you give from a scientific point of view to all this that you have heard?
03:13The account of two people who claim to have been in places belonging to spaceships,
03:20Sixto explains it clearly, the way in which he arrives,
03:23The doctors, psychiatrists who point out that Sixto didn't say it while drunk,
03:28They testify that he was in his right mind.
03:32What scientific rigor can you bring to all this?
03:35Look, Jorge, I see you every morning at 6.30 and you're like an old friend.
03:39I believe, at this point in time, that cases like that of Julio Planer are absolutely irreproachable.
03:47I'm also from that area; I came from there in 1974, so we were neighbors without knowing each other.
03:53and through great researchers like Sergio Soria, like Dr. Cerizale de Cerizano,
03:59who have thoroughly investigated the case of Julio Planer, and his personal conduct,
04:04Because Dr. Hallen Heine, who was a master of all that, said that the invaluable element of the investigation
04:10He is the witness.
04:11If the witness is ethically sound, any account, however fantastical it may seem, is real.
04:19But I, as a researcher, Jorge, brought here the magazine that is out of print,
04:23In other words, I'm not engaging in trade, the destruction of planet Earth,
04:25Published in August 1993, I am particularly concerned about all this flood prevention,
04:34where even the maps coincide, and where, more than anything, I produced, let's say,
04:39the publication of work such as that of Dr. Terrera since 1985, purely scientific,
04:44And something else worries me: that the most proven extraterrestrial contact there is,
04:49which is the one from June 16, 1956, when the extraterrestrials, who I clarify are quite terrestrial,
04:58They extracted a man named William from a plane flying from Louisville to Faddesville in the United States
05:03Brody,
05:03And from that I can later bring the report from the ICAO, the International Civil Aviation Organization of Toronto,
05:09which supports that strange case of airplane hijacking, that they, the so-called extraterrestrials, spoke to us very clearly,
05:16that we had to modify the fuel consumption systems so that these things,
05:21And another, more serious one, which you don't have to be a prophet to know, you don't have to play the mysterious card,
05:25that one receives a message, a prophecy; I am a man who met them twice.
05:30And that they drew blood from me in '78, but I never talk about those things because they are a personal anecdote of mine.
05:35My concern is not to gather crowds, but to sound this alarm.
05:39I already left what's coming in my magazine with a production person.
05:44that in September of 1992, we tried to draw people's attention,
05:48and above all to produce concrete facts, such as making a UFO,
05:52Engineer Jorge Marcelo Ferro, who has never seen a UFO and is not a ufologist, proposed,
05:57And there in the magazine is even the plea he made to the authorities about the UFO.
06:02not to change fuel consumption systems, but the greenhouse effect
06:06This planet is ending.
06:07Wait, you, let's pause for a moment, but can you tell me?
06:11that all this that is punishing us today, such as the issue of floods,
06:16It was predicted, it could have been foreseen in some way,
06:20if we had maintained more fluid contact with the extraterrestrial,
06:23He'll tell me after the break, we'll be right back.
06:46We have one minute left, let's try for the next broadcasts of our program
06:50to show them film footage, a UFO over buildings, testimonies from people who saw it,
06:57and in broad daylight.
06:5830 seconds for you, 30 seconds I'm done, one question had been raised.
07:02Yes, 500 objects observed over the city of Cuenca during the day in full sunlight.
07:06And apart from that, we're also going to release all these images on May 2nd.
07:10at the Bowen Hotel, at Corriente 1830.
07:13Alright.
07:13You, Hector, could have done this, what is happening to us now specifically, the floods,
07:19Could it have been avoided, yes or no?
07:20But of course it could have been avoided, and what will continue to happen could be avoided.
07:24But that's not because of a divine curse or anything,
07:26It is precisely by outsourcing knowledge that large-scale calls for proposals are made.
07:32Speak to me simply, tell me, they can tell us how, and why not...
07:36We know it through common sense, we don't want to do it because it hurts interests.
07:39Here, the common good doesn't prevail, and the interests of a small group do, isn't that right?
07:43And I published in Crónica on September 1, 1995, and here I'm going to share it with Sisto Paz
07:47-Wels,
07:48a request for my contacts to show me a UFO in broad daylight,
07:52Because they always show nocturnal UFOs, and that makes me feel strange...
07:55No, these are daytime images that we have brought this time.
07:57Well, the controversy remains open.
07:59Tomorrow at 2 pm, Contrarreloj, they continue discussing all the current events at 2 pm.
08:05Have a good afternoon and for America.
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