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Este documental es un clásico de la ufología argentina. Emitido originalmente por el recordado Canal Infinito, captura el auge del fenómeno en Victoria, Entre Ríos, durante los años 90.
Aquí te resumo los puntos clave de esta investigación:
- El epicentro: La Laguna del Pescado es señalada como el lugar de mayor actividad, con relatos de luces que entran y salen del agua.
Fenomenología: El documental registra testimonios sobre el "flashado" (luces intensas), objetos físicos que dejan huellas en el suelo y el comportamiento inusual de la fauna local.
En la segunda parte se cuenta con los testimonios del Dr. Cesar Breto, Guillermo Aldunati, comisario Guillermo Urreaga, abad Carlos Martín Oberti, Silvia Pérez Simondini, Oscar Mendoza, Pablo Puchet, Ricardo Núñez, Ricardo Guzman, Benito Passadore, Domingo R. Montero, periodista Ramón Pereyra, Laura (contactada), Andrea Pérez Simondini, piloto aeronáutico Juan C. Gauna, Elena Galli (madre de Silvia).
Aquí te resumo los puntos clave de esta investigación:
- El epicentro: La Laguna del Pescado es señalada como el lugar de mayor actividad, con relatos de luces que entran y salen del agua.
Fenomenología: El documental registra testimonios sobre el "flashado" (luces intensas), objetos físicos que dejan huellas en el suelo y el comportamiento inusual de la fauna local.
En la segunda parte se cuenta con los testimonios del Dr. Cesar Breto, Guillermo Aldunati, comisario Guillermo Urreaga, abad Carlos Martín Oberti, Silvia Pérez Simondini, Oscar Mendoza, Pablo Puchet, Ricardo Núñez, Ricardo Guzman, Benito Passadore, Domingo R. Montero, periodista Ramón Pereyra, Laura (contactada), Andrea Pérez Simondini, piloto aeronáutico Juan C. Gauna, Elena Galli (madre de Silvia).
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00:00This is a landing card for 28, 30 ships.
00:03This went up, understandably, and at some point, it went down.
00:09Hey, this is just an example from the beginning, as there are stories from the beginning of the century and earlier as well.
00:13The enormous vertical climbs.
00:16What are they? I don't know.
00:19But there are.
00:37Victoria is a city that has a very large island department.
00:43It is 360,000 hectares of virgin islands.
00:47A truly impressive delta for its flora, its fauna and also because of its vast expanse of islands and fields
00:57there are no people,
00:58of very few people, of very few inhabitants, only those who live off the house of the neutria and who
01:04They live off the lash.
01:05They are ideal places because of their truly unspoiled nature and, well, because of the beauty that comes with being there.
01:13in direct contact with nature
01:15And the nights are truly spectacular.
01:21Because, let's say, one gets the idea that one is closer to the stars, that one is closer
01:28from the sky.
01:29Perhaps that's why it's one of the places where the best and most incredible sightings truly exist.
01:38of ships.
01:45The countless events that occur in the Argentine city of Victoria, located in the province of Entre Ríos,
01:52They have attracted the attention of many researchers dedicated to the UFO subject in recent years.
01:58One of them, Silvia Pérez Simondini, decided to settle here in 1991 and form a research team whose purpose is
02:08to uncover the origin of the mysterious events.
02:12These lights that appear in this area are truly mysterious; we'd love to find out what they are.
02:21this technology that they use.
02:24It's luminous, of course, but why the change of colors? Why the change of shapes?
02:30It's something that really has us quite absorbed because we can't definitively determine if what we're seeing is what it is.
02:41which is commonly called a flying saucer
02:44Because the sizes are different. Sometimes they're very large, sometimes medium, sometimes very small, sometimes
02:51They come in formation
02:53and they give us the impression that they are tiny spheres of light that, just as suddenly as we see them as small,
03:02at another time they become of an incredible dimension
03:05And we can't understand it. Therefore, we think it's an energy that perhaps nature itself provides.
03:13We cannot know.
03:14But we can understand that nature provides us with absolutely everything, because it provides everything to human beings.
03:24Surely in space, surely in space there is energy that can be harnessed by someone who knows about
03:33this topic
03:33And we haven't reached it yet.
03:36One of the first people to begin observing the phenomenon continuously is Ricardo Guzmán
03:42when he was working as a night caretaker at a local establishment in 1985.
03:49What I have concluded is that, based on testimonies from many years ago,
03:57This is an ancestral practice; they practically coexist with us or have always coexisted with us.
04:07And what I conclude from what I have experienced is that in this last
04:12time
04:13They have manifested themselves more due to one or another factual issue.
04:19These things that are happening to me are like they have to happen because I always knew that Victoria is
04:26special.
04:29The question is, what is the nature of the phenomenon we are seeing?
04:33And why in Victoria?
04:35Or why in Proximity to Victoria?
04:38That's when I say, we have several mysteries inside each other, like the games of the houses.
04:44The intrinsic mystery of the UFO alone, isolated there, which is the thing that is and we don't know who.
04:52The mystery of human behavior in the face of that thing, because if we're going to talk about mystery,
04:58The behavior of the establishment is also mysterious; it tells us nothing and informs us nothing.
05:03Specifically about what they are, what they could be, to bring a measure of reassurance to the population
05:09which is informal.
05:14Meanwhile, each researcher has their own theories, developing their own working methodology.
05:21that leads him to the approach of some topical conclusion.
05:26Our working methodology is perhaps simple for the rest of the people who know about our movements.
05:35At first there was observation.
05:37The observation of what was happening in the sky, what was happening in the river, because normally in principle
05:46we manage
05:47going to what is very well known here, which is the Cerro de la Matanza.
05:52We have figured out and found out the flight schedules, for example, the directions they take,
06:00The different manifestations of the fishermen, and the moonless nights are the nights where the phenomenon best manifests itself.
06:10Therefore, we already had some parameters to keep us up all night.
06:17In this way, many of the phenomena that occur in Victoria have been recorded, and which even today have not been documented.
06:24explanation.
06:29Other researchers are solely dedicated to observation, trying to discover what is hidden behind these lights.
06:37and at the same time be able to clearly differentiate whether such a manifestation is known or not.
06:45These are the unknowns that, even using conventional instruments, there are lights that resist being identified.
06:54And speaking of lights, huh?
06:56When a UFO appears above us, perfectly circular, illuminating the road and the fields, we know that's what we're seeing.
07:04A UFO, an object up there, unidentified, absolutely incredible.
07:10That's clear.
07:13Those distant lights are what raise the question of what we are seeing.
07:19because you also see lights that look like airplanes but aren't.
07:25A glance through binoculars reveals that they are not airplanes.
07:29Because of their behavior, their appearance, and the way they move.
07:34And we have clearly seen those things in Victoria.
07:37What do we have there in the sun?
07:38A bowling pin.
07:41Look, according to this, we have a flight in Richardson.
07:49A Richardson flight.
07:53Leave the airport area and live.
07:56I haven't had the opportunity to talk to an airplane myself, because it transmits and receives.
08:02But I must confess that I have overheard conversations between airplanes, reporting to each other, traffic, that is, a supposed airplane, or pirate.
08:14unknown, or drug trafficker, or UFO,
08:18And I was desperately searching for it all over where I had it, because they don't give the orders from which it
08:23come.
08:24They ask each other, "Is there traffic at such and such a time?"
08:27When the clock strikes, then to the window.
08:30Do you have this?
08:31And when you want to remember, you've already lost track of it.
08:34Look, look how it illuminates.
08:35Look, Pipo, how it lights up.
08:37And an airplane doesn't shine its lights from behind.
08:38And the same phenomenon showed us that it absolutely happens, and first of all, that it is our impulse to
08:49research on the river, and then, of course, the field.
09:01Benito Pasadores owns a field with cattle near Victoria.
09:06As usual, he went to check on the animals and the mill.
09:11Upon arrival, he observes with astonishment that about 40,000 liters of water were missing from the pond, for no apparent reason.
09:19And that's why I thought it was the drinking trough, the drinking trough that's over there.
09:23It had emptied out there, the float was there, it wasn't covered, but no, there was no water and
09:28The water didn't go that way.
09:29Upon inspecting the mill, he manages to spot, to his great surprise,
09:33that strange circular footprints appeared drawn in the field.
09:39And I tell you, when we entered like that, my horse stopped, and I saw a circle, or the first one I ever saw.
09:46The diameter was inserted, one like this, more or less 50 centimeters.
09:52I kept going, I found another one and another and another, I gave up.
09:56And then comes, I think there were 31.
10:00This was a runway for 28, 30 ships.
10:04I don't know where they came from, or when they came from.
10:09That circle was the last one, he said, in the burnt grass.
10:14And then they appeared.
10:19It looks like, I mean, I was talking here, in this field of those years, that's how my night looks.
10:24It seems they were passing by like that, it seems you get lost, and they were talking on my night, I mean, with the aunt.
10:29They weren't stars, or anything like that.
10:30They appeared like this.
10:34I didn't do it.
10:36I don't know who made it, who made them.
10:40Something exists.
10:49A few kilometers from Victoria,
10:51a foreman and his group of employees
10:53They lived through another incredible anomalous experience,
10:56but with different characteristics.
10:59The importance of this case,
11:01Regarding the wide variety of events that occurred in Victoria,
11:04arises from the evidence
11:06which allowed for a technical analysis
11:09by an official body,
11:11and the video recording,
11:13obtained shortly afterwards,
11:15of what happened at the event.
11:16Well, it was about six o'clock,
11:18twenty minutes to seven in the morning,
11:21when the boys were milking there at the dairy,
11:24and they saw a very big light
11:25on that mountain.
11:28And they called me to come see her.
11:31And he came and stood there,
11:33about two hundred meters from here.
11:36That orange light was a big light.
11:40And at that moment it became like a finite edge of light,
11:46but nice and breezy,
11:47It was already breezing.
11:49And well, we thought someone was going to get off,
11:52because it was dark.
11:55And well, suddenly,
11:57It felt like a flash of light,
12:00so a loud crash,
12:01but very strong,
12:02and a light that rose up.
12:07When already,
12:09It possibly combined with stress,
12:11I don't know,
12:12But after a few seconds, a small light remained.
12:15red,
12:17and we never saw her again.
12:20Once the events were over,
12:22Montel and his companions
12:24They went to the scene of the events.
12:26There they discovered that two of the wires,
12:28the first and the last of those that made up the encirclement,
12:31They were completely melted.
12:34His photo posts,
12:35and in the surrounding area,
12:37three areas of burned vegetation,
12:39apparently,
12:40product of a powerful electrical discharge,
12:43like a lightning bolt.
12:44No,
12:46No,
12:47not a lightning bolt
12:48The origin of lightning is unknown.
12:52It's completely different,
12:53I have seen lightning strike,
12:55but,
12:57lightning strikes,
12:59It's a lightning flash first,
13:01then the noise,
13:03And this was from the bottom up,
13:08It's completely different,
13:09nothing to do with it.
13:14Thanks to the opportunity we had
13:17through contact with an official body,
13:20we were able to do analysis
13:22never before obtained in UFO research,
13:25at least in our country.
13:31There are several things that caught our attention in this case,
13:35For example,
13:36that at the moment it occurred
13:37that tremendous burning
13:39that is determining us
13:41which was above 4,200 degrees Celsius,
13:44microwave energy is known as
13:47That's also what the analysis came from,
13:50The strange thing,
13:52I find it strange,
13:52It was that 3 meters burned completely,
13:55in a flash,
13:56over a length of 15 meters,
13:58But 3 meters disappeared.
14:00on the first wire,
14:02and then the other one that burned
14:04It was the fifth,
14:05the one who was at the very bottom,
14:07those who were the three in the middle,
14:09were totally,
14:11as if they hadn't existed for the phenomenon,
14:14They didn't touch each other.
14:15And another thing
14:16which also caught our attention,
14:19two footprints remained
14:21on one side of the wire,
14:22and only one on this other side.
14:25Therefore,
14:26It is showing us
14:27that this was floating in the air,
14:30that at no point did it land,
14:32And if he did,
14:33It had 3 long legs,
14:35And if they weren't legs,
14:37There were 3 lightning strikes.
14:41In my opinion,
14:43what happens here
14:44is that the projection of these devices
14:46at the microwave level
14:49affect,
14:51or destroy,
14:52the metallic,
14:52the fencing disintegrates,
14:54it melts,
14:55as happens in a microwave,
14:57a metal,
14:58and at the same time,
14:59The low-lying grass dehydrates it.
15:01It doesn't burn it.
15:03That is to say,
15:03who is not an agent
15:04like fire,
15:05that,
15:06Let's suppose,
15:06would burn the wire,
15:08and the grass would burn it too.
15:09In this case,
15:10No,
15:10The grass dehydrates it,
15:12while the wire
15:13melts it,
15:14as happens
15:15in a microwave oven,
15:16or as also happens
15:19in warm-up techniques
15:20by radio frequency in that location.
15:24Despite the existence of precedents
15:27from the beginning of the cycle,
15:28It was in 1991
15:30when as a result of a series
15:32of striking facts
15:33and strange apparitions of lights,
15:35the fish lagoon
15:37gains fame,
15:38generating commotion
15:39in the town of Victoria.
15:41Then,
15:43the Buenos Aires press
15:44the news is being reported
15:48Do you believe in UFOs?
15:50He doesn't believe it,
15:51I don't know,
15:51But they do exist.
15:52There are some.
15:52Look at the report,
15:53the new report
15:54that we did in Victoria
15:55and the marks they left.
16:08During a day in July
16:10of 1991,
16:12Bebi Basaldúa
16:13and her maid,
16:13Rule,
16:14come for the first time
16:15a singular light
16:17who disguised himself in the sky.
16:20In the following days,
16:21They looked at her again.
16:23at the same time,
16:24but with different trajectories,
16:26whereby,
16:27Bebi decided to comment on the fact
16:29to a local journalist.
16:33who was disguising himself at the same time
16:34And so it was that at 8 p.m.
16:35We arrived around 30
16:37and at that very moment
16:38the cameraman who was with me,
16:41that came with the technical device
16:43Available now
16:44to begin capturing
16:45any type of phenomena,
16:48He looks startled
16:49when I ask him
16:50to take the first pictures
16:52of what had happened.
16:53After 10 minutes
16:55that he was arriving
16:56with his cameraman,
16:57Rule,
16:58who was with his caboose
16:59in the park
17:00looking to see
17:01If I were to take the English train,
17:03he tells me,
17:04ma'am, ma'am,
17:06The lights are on.
17:07It was the displacement
17:08from a luminous object
17:10that was moving
17:11at a very low height
17:12and crossing the field
17:13and the owner
17:16of the stay
17:16from Viva Saldúa
17:17He asks for the binoculars,
17:21binoculars
17:21and I request it
17:24to be able to appreciate it better
17:25the body
17:26that was asking for that light
17:27and I can appreciate with awe
17:30a flying saucer.
17:32And he tells me,
17:32lady,
17:33It's a dish
17:34because of the way it moves.
17:36Well,
17:37this continued to rise
17:38and at a given moment
17:39It turned off,
17:41disappeared
17:42as if there had been a gust of wind.
17:44We're all baffled.
17:47Where is the greeting?
17:48What happened?
17:49Where did he go?
17:50The surprise was enormous.
17:52We were in a situation
17:53practically inexplicable.
17:57It was an experience
17:58that up until that moment
18:01There were no words to describe it.
18:03My skin reacted.
18:04because we were
18:07to capture bad lights
18:08of the so-called bad lights
18:10from the countryside
18:10and we met
18:12with this phenomenon
18:13that from then on
18:15in more
18:15it began to be seen
18:16more continuously
18:18and practically
18:19what was rated
18:20at some point
18:21practically
18:22an invasion
18:23in history.
18:24and it impressed him so much
18:25to which we were
18:27We were trembling there
18:28in the cold
18:29and the excitement we felt
18:31that the boy
18:33Norma's son
18:34who was a child
18:35who was 9 years old
18:36then
18:36the next day
18:38He handed it to her
18:39a drawing
18:40of the scene
18:42where we witnessed
18:44that the willow
18:46I was going
18:46towards the end
18:47and in the drawing
18:49it shows
18:50the astonishment
18:51portrayed
18:52in the gestures
18:53that we had
18:54everyone with their hands
18:55up
18:55shows astonishment
18:57the impression
18:59what we were
19:13abductions
19:14are common
19:15everywhere
19:16of the world
19:16many remember
19:18that lost time
19:19and they tell
19:20that have been
19:20kidnapped
19:21by extraterrestrials
19:22and subjected
19:23to traumatic
19:24studies
19:25and operations
19:25from these
19:28encounters
19:28some people
19:29they say they become
19:30in what is known
19:32as
19:32contacted
19:41Carmela and Laura
19:43They are two nurses
19:44Spanish
19:44that were passing
19:45a comfortable life
19:47in the edition
19:50we didn't know
19:51to Argentina
19:53so
19:54we are told
19:55that we were coming
19:57to Victoria
19:58to a place
19:59that it wasn't Victoria
19:59the first time
20:00who went to a place
20:00that Victoria was taking
20:01And there we were
20:02we are looking for
20:03the first
20:03vacation we had
20:05in the year 71
20:06we came
20:07touring
20:07the country
20:08And we were looking for Victoria
20:09We were looking for maps
20:10from
20:11from a meeting
20:12from a meeting
20:12with a UFO
20:13in Spain
20:13they begin to receive
20:14strangers
20:15of life
20:16That's right
20:17that abandon
20:18all their old
20:19to install
20:20on the other side
20:21of the world
20:21your choice
20:23code
20:24to people
20:27needy
20:38the superior brothers
20:40I specifically
20:42I can refer
20:43to my guide
20:44but they are
20:45a series of identities
20:46evolved beings
20:48Some are physicists
20:49and others are not physical
20:51and they are helping
20:52to humanity
20:52always
20:53and they are watching
20:54because of his plan
20:55evolutionary
20:57follow
20:58the path
20:59that the creator
21:02expects
21:02they are
21:03its executors
21:04how do you say
21:04us
21:07simply
21:07We see it
21:08more than coherent
21:09We see it as logical
21:10and around
21:11if we don't see it as logical
21:12and we asked
21:12They clarify for us
21:13the doubts
21:14that we can have
21:14and it was
21:16somehow
21:17I'm not saying mandate.
21:19but if
21:19a provision
21:20which had been a while ago
21:21we had shown
21:23of
21:23that not search
21:26as the hours passed
21:28the conversation
21:29had generated
21:31an emotional bond
21:32very narrow
21:36that night
21:37upon leaving
21:38they would experience an event
21:40so special
21:40that would secure
21:42even more
21:42this relationship
21:45when we said goodbye
21:46Carmila and Laura's
21:48tonight
21:48the first thing I do
21:50It's calling Victoria
21:52to my mother
21:52via cell phone
21:53and I tell him
21:54that we were already
21:55returning to Victoria
21:57We got in the car
21:59and we tried
22:00to do
22:01more or less
22:02in 40 minutes
22:03the distance
22:04that separates us
22:06by Hernández
22:07to Victoria
22:08which is a path
22:08of land
22:10but more than 50 minutes
22:12we couldn't delay
22:17that night
22:18the path
22:19It was pretty good.
22:20and this
22:22in theory
22:23we should have
22:24delayed
22:24no more than 45 minutes
22:26in making the journey
22:28we took the road
22:30We were very happy
22:31quite happy
22:32we were coming
22:33commenting
22:34what we had
22:35been talking
22:36with these two
22:37wonderful women
22:39and suddenly
22:40we stop
22:41on the way
22:42observe some lights
22:44I'll get off
22:45with the binoculars
22:47and because it was very cold
22:49in wintertime
22:51practically in May
22:55I'm getting off
22:56and I observe
22:56apart from those lights
22:58in front of the car
22:59about 20 meters
23:00a horse
23:02with a rider
23:02the fact
23:03more anecdotal
23:05from this experience
23:06It's that Pablo
23:07at a certain point
23:09he tells me
23:09Turn on the lights
23:10to see the rider
23:11if the rider comes
23:12and when I turn on the lights
23:14there was nothing
23:14and there was something like a mist
23:17that was progressing
23:19towards the side of the car
23:20But the truth is
23:20I turned on the lights
23:21and in front of the car
23:22there was nothing
23:23nor rider
23:24nor horse
23:24or anything
23:25that resembled him
23:26that I could do
23:27that noise
23:27or in fact it was
23:29we all believed
23:30that we had seen
23:31come or heard
23:32a rider is coming
23:33on horseback
23:34but he never appeared
23:35so
23:35How could that be?
23:36if there was no
23:37no approach
23:38there was no
23:38no gate
23:39nothing where
23:41that person
23:42could have left
23:46we were just talking about
23:47that the whole stop
23:48what did we do
23:50when we arrived
23:51to Victoria
23:51to my house
23:54my mother was amazed
23:55says
23:56What happened to them?
23:58we tell them
23:59nothing
23:59because?
24:00What was the time like?
24:02Did you call me?
24:02at 10 pm?
24:04indeed
24:05It was 1:00 in the morning
24:07and it could not have been
24:09never
24:10I looked at my watch
24:11Andrea looked at hers
24:12Pablo looked at his
24:13Yes, it was 1 o'clock in the morning
24:15Where had we gone?
24:17So long?
24:18if we
24:19that's all we did
24:20we were able to
24:21to have been
24:2215, 20 minutes
24:24Let's say half an hour
24:26analyzing the case
24:27from the famous cinema
24:28the fact is
24:30that we
24:31we lost
24:31much more than two hours
24:32and we hadn't
24:34arrived in Victoria
24:35Where did they go?
24:36these two hours
24:38a few days later
24:40Laura and Carmela
24:41They claim to have the explanation.
24:43of what happened
24:44his spiritual days
24:46they would have been informed
24:48that during their trip
24:49had been abducted
24:52So, well
24:53it remained as
24:54what many researchers
24:56consider
24:56a missing time
24:57And I think we
24:59tonight
24:59we were part of it
25:00from an experience
25:00of those characteristics
25:04the collection of stories
25:06and experiences
25:07They vary in all
25:08its aspects
25:09It was this year
25:10not too long ago
25:11in circumstances
25:13who was in the area
25:13from the hospital
25:14by one person
25:14who had entered
25:15deceased
25:16waiting for the relatives
25:17they will have been
25:18between the 2
25:19and 3 in the morning
25:20I was on the corner
25:21from the hospital
25:22I remember now
25:23and fell
25:25something like a cylinder
25:26green like that
25:27but just a few blocks away
25:294 blocks
25:30more or less
25:30and where there is a house
25:31family
25:31And I thought
25:33that they were going to call
25:33that something was going to happen
25:34that the family
25:35he would have been scared
25:37or comment on something
25:39and yet
25:39Nothing happened
25:40and I saw him fall
25:41And another one arrived
25:42where was
25:43a family home
25:44For example
25:44I don't know which family home
25:45Because, as I've already told you
25:46they will have been
25:473 or 4 blocks
25:48where it fell
25:49But it was clear as day.
25:50because the hospital
25:50It is at a height
25:51For example
25:52and I would stop at the corner
25:53and I saw that
25:54It's very clear.
25:54fall this
25:55a species
25:56green cylinder
25:57So
25:57to put it one way
26:01Well
26:02we were
26:04inside the tent
26:05and there was noise
26:07like something
26:08rose
26:08the tent
26:09or the grass
26:11and well
26:12me every time
26:13You could feel that touch
26:15in the tent
26:16I used to hit him
26:18to the tent
26:19and it could be heard
26:19that something was running
26:22among the crooks
26:23and after a while he returned
26:24and then
26:24go out
26:26we couldn't leave
26:27because in the place
26:28where the tent was
26:29first
26:29we didn't have electricity
26:31and second
26:31that there was
26:32a snack
26:32very high
26:34that had
26:35one meter
26:36seventy
26:37one meter seventy
26:37And since there was no light
26:38was
26:38so for sure
26:39I was going all the way here
26:42and well
26:43after a while
26:44to make noise
26:45and that followed
26:46I turned around
26:47and I looked in the tent
26:48and it was a fraction
26:50second
26:50that I saw
26:51something
26:52what would you tell me
26:53one meter ten
26:54one meter
26:55more or less
26:57very small
26:58of small concept
26:59and well
27:01the part that would have
27:02that be
27:02the head
27:03which would have to be
27:04something normal
27:04something round
27:05It was something cellular.
27:11to make a ship
27:13Yes, that's what I was reading.
27:14of a ship
27:14likes
27:15but he likes it
27:16whoever
27:16of a ship
27:17but
27:17It was something
27:18which was totally
27:20transparent
27:21It wasn't a
27:23something that would see her
27:24I live in a neighborhood
27:25of department
27:25And this happened
27:26above
27:27from the neighborhood
27:27of department
27:29And I watched
27:30and I saw
27:32moving
27:32very slowly
27:33and it seemed
27:35that through
27:35of them
27:37they were
27:38stargazing
27:39That was what
27:39It caught my attention
27:40that part
27:41things were
27:42extremely
27:43immense
27:45with so many witnesses
27:47and evidence
27:47Why doesn't it exist?
27:49a response
27:49scientific and rational
27:51that explains
27:52satisfactorily
27:53all these phenomena?
27:55What are we seeing?
27:57we are seeing
27:57exactly
27:58natural phenomena
28:00physical phenomena
28:01atmospheric
28:02meteorological
28:03spatial phenomena
28:05infrequent
28:07little known
28:08or we are looking
28:10in quotation marks
28:11ships
28:11occupied
28:12to intelligent beings
28:13and at the time
28:15to answer us
28:15we know exactly
28:16what is it that we
28:18drives
28:19to look for those things
28:20something without a job
28:22that guy
28:24of phenomena
28:25has a behavior
28:26which seems
28:27which seems
28:28intelligent
28:29because I don't know
28:31aerolytic
28:31follow the cars
28:33I don't know
28:34an aerolithic
28:34that he defends himself
28:35suddenly
28:36I don't know
28:37of satellites
28:38that they leave
28:38to the meeting
28:39stop
28:39back off
28:40and continue
28:40marching
28:42I don't know
28:43of one sun
28:44let him come
28:44from the horizon
28:45at a speed
28:45dreadful
28:46and it stops
28:47suddenly
28:48illuminating
28:48the whole place
28:49as if it were
28:50by day
28:52And you're going to turn
28:53the head
28:53to look for it
28:54again
28:54and he's gone now
28:59phenomenology
29:00UFO-light
29:01of victory
29:02it seemed to lack
29:03of a pattern
29:04certain
29:06the large concentration
29:07of phenomena
29:08strangers
29:09focuses
29:09mostly
29:10within a
29:11imaginary triangle
29:12plot on
29:14this big one
29:14eternal
29:15means
29:16that this triangle
29:16In fact
29:17this
29:18one could say
29:19constituted
29:20in phenomenology
29:21UFO
29:21for victory
29:22rosary
29:23and Saint Nicholas
29:25or boatyard
29:25but actually
29:26Those are epicenters
29:27of the UFO phenomenon
29:29since it is the center
29:30of activity
29:31by observation
29:32for larger quantity
29:32of adicants
29:33and so on
29:34about this triangle
29:35also
29:36effects act
29:37that not necessarily
29:39are related
29:40per se
29:41with the UFO phenomenon
29:41that is to say
29:42with the light
29:42with that sphere seen
29:45For example
29:46There is a case
29:46very particular
29:47that to me
29:48I'm very attracted to it
29:49by the level
29:50of people
29:51who tell it
29:52and at the moment
29:53in which it appears
29:53It was a long time
29:54after it happened
29:56and at a dinner
29:56of friends
29:57the story
29:58two pilots
30:00that very
30:01They are two pilots
30:01highly experienced
30:02in the area
30:03that made the flight
30:04Pueblo-Ester
30:05Victory
30:06Victoria-Pueblo-Ester
30:07very commonly
30:08three or four times
30:08per week
30:09on a plane
30:10It's a 172
30:12a Cessna-162
30:13with the type
30:14navigation
30:14including GPS
30:16edge
30:17average axis
30:18and on a flight
30:20which is not very necessary
30:21but for training
30:22They had been using it
30:24that had come out
30:24Victoria
30:25towards Pueblo-Ester
30:26they were being controlled
30:27with the airport
30:28by Cesarton
30:29and with all
30:31the system
30:31navigation
30:32expanding
30:32It's a flight
30:33that on that plane
30:34lasts approximately
30:36at most
30:3728 minutes
30:3826 minutes
30:3930 minutes
30:40at most
30:40They had been talking
30:42calm
30:43yet
30:44a normal flight
30:44clear sky
30:45by day
30:46It was 5 in the afternoon
30:47summer
30:48Very smooth flight
30:49and it began to happen
30:51time
30:51and they didn't come
30:52the coast of Rosario
30:53they kept flying
30:55already when they were
30:56in '54
30:5795 minutes
30:58flight
30:59They were worried
31:00But they began to see
31:01the coast
31:02They began to approach
31:03but with the surprise
31:04that when they approached
31:05to the coast
31:06they realized
31:07from the entrance
31:08when they saw
31:08which was not
31:09the coast of Pueblo-Ester
31:10It was the coast of Victoria
31:12and the plane
31:13at no time
31:13accused
31:14no turning
31:15no movement
31:17nothing
31:18the story
31:19It's a two-pilot movie.
31:20completely
31:21experienced
31:22It's like
31:23that the planet
31:24would have turned around
31:41the phenomenon
31:42it masks
31:44mutually
31:45among the population
31:46But the important thing
31:46from this
31:47It's not just
31:47see the light
31:48see the UFO
31:50This is not identified
31:52I don't know what it is
31:53but that no one can confirm
31:54currently
31:55what's that
31:56But the important thing
31:57This is
31:58know what he's doing
31:59in this area
32:00why it interacts
32:02with the man
32:02here in this area
32:04Dauna and Albinati
32:05They study the UFO phenomenon
32:07from the city of Rosario
32:08located on the west coast
32:10of the great Paraná River
32:12They investigate
32:14mostly
32:14the causes
32:16that produce
32:16said phenomenon
32:17and their interrelationship
32:18with the man
32:20we in Cegos
32:21that trip
32:22what have we done to Victoria
32:23and that this concomitance
32:25we can see it too
32:26on this side
32:27of the province
32:28from Santa Fe
32:29especially in the area
32:30No way.
32:31from Rosario
32:32towards San Nicolás
32:33Where are they?
32:34the famous
32:34multinational companies
32:36where the phenomenon
32:37it also manifests
32:38in that place
32:39Punta Alviar
32:40Oster Village
32:41Villa Gobernador
32:42Galvez
32:43where there are phenomena
32:44where there is an interrelationship
32:45among the witnesses
32:47the people who live
32:49in that place
32:49and the UFO phenomenon
32:51Many things have happened
32:52many elements
32:54that we take us
32:55to think
32:56that there is a species
32:57relationship
32:59maybe
33:00why not?
33:00a manipulation
33:02of the phenomenon
33:02towards certain human beings
33:04that are dedicated
33:05in this witness
33:09There are many cases
33:10of ablution
33:11There are many cases
33:11physical contact
33:13in the area
33:14from Oster Village
33:14towards Arroyo Seco
33:16There are many fishermen
33:17of the area
33:18that manifest
33:19inclusive
33:21contacts a little
33:22traumatic
33:23with these objects
33:25unidentified flying objects
33:26They have very low flights
33:28in a way that greatly affects
33:29including some
33:30even with disappearances
33:32And I think there are
33:34an interaction
33:34between the phenomenon
33:35researcher
33:36as there is
33:36with the phenomenon
33:37with any citizen
33:38that it has at the moment
33:40an experience
33:40the difference
33:41among the average citizen
33:43who has an experience
33:44and the researcher
33:45is the researcher
33:46on top of that, she's looking for it
33:48during the routine
33:49observational
33:50and in the eagerness
33:51to discover
33:51the secrets
33:52of this phenomenology
33:53one night
33:54experienced
33:55an event
33:57disturbing
33:59we decided to go
34:00to the hill
34:01of the Virgin
34:02It's a hill
34:03Okay, now
34:04It's different.
34:04but at that moment
34:05there was a small
34:07hermitage
34:07with a little Virgin Mary
34:09and this
34:10It was a space
34:12quite small
34:13where it was not possible
34:15maneuver too much
34:16with a vehicle
34:17we decided to arrive
34:18there
34:19to observe
34:20the river
34:20from that site
34:22the night was
34:23very cold
34:24a winter night
34:26tremendous
34:27as we went
34:29arriving
34:30us
34:31in my case
34:33I could swear
34:35that there was no
34:35nobody
34:36on the hill
34:37they only saw each other
34:39the two little trees
34:39that they were there
34:40and there was no
34:42nothing
34:42nor person
34:43nor vehicles
34:44only
34:45us
34:46that we were going
34:47arriving
34:49I remember that
34:50when we arrived
34:51to the hill
34:53of the Virgin
34:54I parked
34:55I was driving
34:56I parked
34:57looking
34:58to the costalero
34:59I remember that
35:00we began to observe
35:02with the binoculars
35:02as usual
35:03binoculars
35:03I had them
35:04and was watching
35:06the entire horizon
35:07that
35:07It made me think
35:08that there was a storm
35:10about Rosario
35:11and this
35:12also within a few minutes
35:14I can't say for sure.
35:14how many minutes
35:15but not
35:16not much time passes
35:17I feel like someone
35:18comments about the car
35:19behind
35:19I see
35:21a car
35:23say
35:24How can that be?
35:25that behind
35:25of our car
35:26there is a car
35:28if when just
35:29we were
35:29there was no
35:30absolutely
35:31nobody
35:31us
35:32we were
35:33looking at a river
35:34and the car
35:35was
35:36the other car
35:36looking
35:37towards the part
35:39behind
35:39to the trunk
35:40of our vehicle
35:41scarce
35:41one and a half meters
35:43no more
35:46We turned around
35:47all together
35:48we look
35:49and today
35:50It catches our attention
35:51It was our same car
35:53the one who was
35:53behind us
35:54How is it understood
35:55that?
35:56I don't know
35:56none of the others
35:58we were able to discern
35:59What was this about?
36:00the only difference
36:01that there was
36:02between a car
36:03and the other
36:03was that
36:04that car
36:05a stranger
36:06I didn't have
36:07patents
36:08but they were
36:09similar
36:10color
36:10dark
36:13the entire feature
36:15of the car
36:16that we
36:16we mobilize
36:17except
36:18about what
36:18I didn't have
36:19patents
36:20I start to look
36:21inside
36:22of the car
36:22and even the same
36:23upholstered
36:24had
36:24not observed
36:25motion
36:26of people
36:26we thought
36:28in getting off
36:29in touching them
36:30because inside
36:31with the binoculars
36:32that we were
36:33observing
36:34there was no
36:34absolutely
36:35nobody
36:38Ricardo Guzmán
36:39open the door
36:40to get off
36:43I turned around
36:44from behind
36:45from the trunk
36:46I didn't love myself
36:46approximate
36:47because
36:49I felt
36:49resentment
36:50or fear
36:51I don't know
36:52what to call it
36:52something
36:54about the unknown
36:56had realized
36:57that I already had
36:59a low experience
37:00on this
37:00he went in
37:01very quickly
37:02again
37:03to the vehicle
37:04and me for the first time
37:06I can assure you
37:07that was fear
37:08because
37:09It was like
37:10He was warning me
37:11that that was something
37:12supernatural
37:13It wasn't
37:13something
37:14normal
37:15above all
37:16because of the shape
37:17in which it appeared
37:18Well
37:18after all this
37:19we stayed
37:20quite shocked
37:21with that fear
37:22internal
37:23that one sometimes
37:23He doesn't know how to explain it.
37:25with an experience
37:26strange
37:26and soon after
37:29we started to stay
37:31as if asleep
37:32all
37:32It was at that moment
37:34that
37:35that I felt
37:37like a drowsiness
37:38and
37:38I fell asleep
37:40and in one of those
37:42I stayed
37:43asleep
37:45next to me
37:46was
37:46Ricardo Guzmán
37:48he stayed
37:49asleep
37:51was
37:52Andreita
37:53he stayed
37:54asleep
37:55and then
37:57apparently
37:57maybe
37:58She fell asleep
37:59also
37:59I look at the clock
38:00that just
38:01It's one
38:02a.m.
38:02And that's it.
38:04asleep
38:06at what point
38:07I don't know
38:07that's true
38:08I can
38:09but absolutely
38:10It happened to me
38:11loss of consciousness
38:12undoubtedly
38:13I fell asleep
38:14me too
38:15I don't know
38:16who
38:16because it has happened
38:17in one of those
38:18I woke up
38:19and I told him
38:21to Silvia
38:21and I say
38:23Silvia
38:24everything is there
38:25dark
38:25how dark
38:26everything is there
38:27I wake up
38:28and he tells me
38:29everything is black
38:30I look around
38:31indeed
38:32There were no lights
38:33on the waterfront
38:34because the hill
38:35of the old
38:35is found
38:36right in front
38:37to the waterfront
38:37and suddenly
38:39It's like
38:40everything
38:41dissipated
38:43again
38:44The lights were on.
38:44normal
38:45Everything was fine.
38:46they began
38:47to be discarded
38:48all
38:48and on top of that
38:48first
38:49look at the car
38:50I wasn't there
38:51the car
38:53I wasn't there
38:53I really
38:55I felt
38:57queer
38:58inside me
38:59because it is a
39:00experience
39:00unforgettable
39:01was
39:03an experience
39:05that
39:05really
39:06supernatural
39:07when I look at the clock
39:09It was 1:35
39:10whereby
39:11I
39:12personally
39:13I fell asleep
39:14exactly
39:1535 minutes
39:16at the moment
39:17that my mother
39:18It wakes me up
39:20I think that
39:21then
39:23of our dream
39:24something happened
39:26something I have
39:27my doubts
39:28until the day
39:28today
39:29since
39:31I have not submitted
39:33nothing
39:33I say that I
39:35I always have
39:36the doubt
39:36of what happened
39:36tonight
39:37HE
39:38that
39:39no car
39:40could have
39:40go in there
39:41if I hadn't
39:42the child moved
39:43beyond that
39:45I would have liked
39:46try
39:47through another access
39:47It was impossible
39:48because it was everything
39:49cliff
39:50the way back
39:51It was broken
39:52It was impossible
39:52that entered
39:53even a machine
39:54not even
39:54so
39:55It was impossible
39:56than a car
39:56was there
39:57if I hadn't
39:57the child moved
39:58mine
39:59I didn't move it
40:00and then
40:00just as it appeared
40:01disappeared
40:02and that experience
40:03I will never forget her
40:05Is there an interrelationship?
40:07among these people
40:08And the phenomenon?
40:10or the continuous search
40:13of answers
40:13They lead them
40:15to the ground
40:15of the management?
40:16above all
40:17the researchers
40:18from the countryside
40:18are
40:19more exposed
40:21to
40:21the contact
40:22with the phenomenon
40:23in fact
40:24the instance
40:26to go and look
40:26the phenomenon
40:28statistically
40:29it brings you closer
40:30to have
40:30experiences
40:32or encounters
40:32with the phenomenon
40:33same
40:33It's not time anymore
40:35that officially
40:37the OASIS
40:39or the International Union
40:42with authority
40:43and legislative power
40:45about the rest
40:46of the nations
40:47deal with the issue
40:48of these phenomena
40:50phenomena
40:50I think that's it.
40:52the stable
40:53I can't
40:54remove the phenomenon
40:55we can no longer
40:56cover the colpo
40:57In a place
40:58humanity
40:59She's crazy
41:00because of everything
41:00if the other humanity
41:01it is agreed
41:02because she doesn't see it
41:03I believe in this
41:04must be avoided
41:04like two
41:05two extremes
41:06one end
41:07I would be
41:08the one of
41:08a total
41:09skepticism
41:10almost one
41:12already
41:15entry
41:16So
41:16a priori
41:19emits as
41:21a trial
41:22discarding
41:23rejecting
41:24rejecting
41:25completely
41:25all that
41:26could be
41:26a phenomenon
41:30that goes
41:31beyond
41:31of the
41:32let's say
41:33of the
41:34natural
41:34or what
41:36we consider
41:37like more
41:37normal
41:39or that can
41:40explain
41:40from a point
41:41from a view
41:42scientist
41:43or the observable
41:46and on the other hand
41:48sometimes
41:50the other extreme
41:51would be
41:51in an attitude
41:53which is characterized
41:55by
41:56not only
41:57believe in everything
41:59So
42:00uncritically
42:01but
42:02sometimes
42:02as if it's being sought
42:03it isn't true?
42:05and somehow
42:05it can be projected
42:07something
42:07that is
42:08in one
42:10and in this
42:11we know
42:11that occurs
42:12very easily
42:13the call
42:14collective psychosis
42:15which gives as
42:15a contagion
42:25the mystery
42:26Victoria
42:27obviously
42:28extends
42:29beyond
42:30of the fact
42:30to observe
42:31simple
42:31things
42:33probably
42:34at this very moment
42:35is being produced
42:37another phenomenon
42:38inexplicable
42:39Look at what
42:40that's what it says
42:41please
42:42but
42:43what is
42:44what happens?
42:45Can they evaporate?
42:47during one night
42:4840,000 liters
42:50water
42:51without leaving a trace?
42:53What are they responding to?
42:54the circular footprints
42:55appeared
42:56in the vicinity?
43:00if it wasn't
43:01product
43:02from a lightning bolt
43:02What phenomenon
43:04natural
43:04caused
43:05the destruction
43:06of the fencing
43:06and the vegetation
43:07nearby?
43:10the creation
43:11of the referee
43:12is related
43:13with some
43:13possible event
43:14future?
43:15And why?
43:16victory?
43:18Abductions
43:20occur
43:21in reality
43:22or only
43:24In dreams?
43:26Can four
43:27people
43:28hallucinate
43:29an image
43:29virtual
43:30and at the same time
43:31fall asleep
43:32at the same time?
43:38of all these
43:40stories
43:41and events
43:41detach
43:42various
43:43conceptions
43:44the unknowns
43:46There are many
43:46But the reality
43:48It is a
43:49the strange ones
43:51victory lights
43:52there are
43:53and they are not
43:54product
43:55none
43:56human activity
43:57to a million
43:59known
44:00You know?
44:02You know?
44:05You know?
44:09You know?
44:14You know?
44:18You know?
44:19You know?
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