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Programa: A la Tarde (conducido por Karina Mazzocco).
Fecha de emisión original: 5 de junio de 2022.
Temática: Revelaciones sobre encuentros cercanos y desclasificación de información.
👽 Intervenciones de Carlos Perciavalle
El actor relató sus experiencias desde una perspectiva de contacto cotidiano y místico:
- El Ser en el Teatro: Describió haber visto a un hombre de casi dos metros vestido de plateado en la primera fila del teatro Arcobaleno (Punta del Este). Afirmó que solo él y el iluminador del teatro pudieron verlo.
- Avistamiento en Victoria: Relató que en Victoria, Entre Ríos, presenció una nave nodriza de gran tamaño de la cual se desprendían naves menores que descendían a los arroyos, según él, para "tomar agua dulce".
- Validación Pública: Mencionó que durante un estreno teatral en la misma zona, se produjo un corte de luz y tanto él como todo el público vieron una nave similar a la de la película Encuentros cercanos del tercer tipo.
✈️ Intervenciones de Jorge Polanco
El excomandante de Aerolíneas Argentinas aportó el testimonio técnico sobre el famoso "Caso Bariloche" de 1995:
- El Encuentro en Vuelo: Mientras pilotaba un Boeing 727 con 140 pasajeros (incluyendo científicos nucleares), fue escoltado por un objeto discoidal de 30 metros de diámetro.
- Fallas Electromagnéticas: Reportó que al acercarse el objeto a la pista de Bariloche, se produjo un apagón total en el aeropuerto. En el avión, los instrumentos fallaron y el sistema de propulsión se aceleró de forma inexplicable.
- Testigos de Autoridad: Confirmó que la torre de control y la tripulación de un avión de Gendarmería Nacional que volaba cerca también observaron el fenómeno.
🔍 Conclusión del Encuentro
El programa destacó el contraste entre el relato anecdótico de Perciavalle y la evidencia técnica de Polanco, coincidiendo ambos en que estos fenómenos suelen manifestarse con interferencias eléctricas y en zonas geográficas específicas de Argentina y Uruguay.
Fecha de emisión original: 5 de junio de 2022.
Temática: Revelaciones sobre encuentros cercanos y desclasificación de información.
👽 Intervenciones de Carlos Perciavalle
El actor relató sus experiencias desde una perspectiva de contacto cotidiano y místico:
- El Ser en el Teatro: Describió haber visto a un hombre de casi dos metros vestido de plateado en la primera fila del teatro Arcobaleno (Punta del Este). Afirmó que solo él y el iluminador del teatro pudieron verlo.
- Avistamiento en Victoria: Relató que en Victoria, Entre Ríos, presenció una nave nodriza de gran tamaño de la cual se desprendían naves menores que descendían a los arroyos, según él, para "tomar agua dulce".
- Validación Pública: Mencionó que durante un estreno teatral en la misma zona, se produjo un corte de luz y tanto él como todo el público vieron una nave similar a la de la película Encuentros cercanos del tercer tipo.
✈️ Intervenciones de Jorge Polanco
El excomandante de Aerolíneas Argentinas aportó el testimonio técnico sobre el famoso "Caso Bariloche" de 1995:
- El Encuentro en Vuelo: Mientras pilotaba un Boeing 727 con 140 pasajeros (incluyendo científicos nucleares), fue escoltado por un objeto discoidal de 30 metros de diámetro.
- Fallas Electromagnéticas: Reportó que al acercarse el objeto a la pista de Bariloche, se produjo un apagón total en el aeropuerto. En el avión, los instrumentos fallaron y el sistema de propulsión se aceleró de forma inexplicable.
- Testigos de Autoridad: Confirmó que la torre de control y la tripulación de un avión de Gendarmería Nacional que volaba cerca también observaron el fenómeno.
🔍 Conclusión del Encuentro
El programa destacó el contraste entre el relato anecdótico de Perciavalle y la evidencia técnica de Polanco, coincidiendo ambos en que estos fenómenos suelen manifestarse con interferencias eléctricas y en zonas geográficas específicas de Argentina y Uruguay.
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00:00Last week, Gustavo Descalzi introduced us to a truly novel experience they were having there in Uruguay.
00:08and which stars a great of show business such as Mr. Carlos Perciabale.
00:14Gustavo, Carlos, we're listening. How are you doing?
00:18I was telling you the other day that in this area where Carlos has his house, which is this one, the lagoon,
00:25This is a magical place, not only because of its aesthetics, but also because of its energy, as many people have said.
00:32One day, my teacher Fabio Serpa told me that there was a kind of vortex that was...
00:37the lagoon,
00:38It was also, it was in the Cerro de las Ánimas, which is behind the Punta del Este airport,
00:43and the other point was in Villa Serrana.
00:46But the one who lives in that place is Carlitos Perciabale, who over so many years has had different types
00:52of meetings
00:53And I'd like us to start recounting some of these encounters you had in the house.
00:57Well, I can tell you about the first one that wasn't at home, but in a theater, Arcobaleno, which...
01:04Sorry, Arcobaleno is in Punta del Este, very close to here.
01:07I'm at the Enjoy now, my friend Mariano, we're about 15 blocks from Arcobaleno.
01:13Exactly, but seen from above Arcobaleno looks like circles and resembles a classic construction, it looks like a ship.
01:23And I was playing ET, the Spielberg one, the extraterrestrial that some people leave behind, a plate, right?
01:34And he makes friends with a little boy and then returns to the ship, the movie.
01:39I was wearing my ET mask and suddenly I saw, the theater was full,
01:45In the front row, a man slightly taller than normal, standing, dressed in silver.
01:53For me, a silver dress is the most normal thing in the world; I've seen all sorts of things, you know.
01:58The entire audience also knows all the colors in the world.
02:01If he had been wearing a suit, shirt, and tie, it would have caught my attention.
02:05But I looked at him and said, "What's wrong, sir? Why are you standing there?"
02:09Did they take your seat?
02:11And all the people in the front row looked in the direction I was speaking.
02:16And then he looked at me as if to say, "Is he crazy? Who is this guy talking to?"
02:20And I was looking at their faces and I said, my God, I'm already materializing my thoughts,
02:26I'm already here, my level of madness is growing.
02:30Then I quickly continued with the monologue of being on Earth.
02:34If there was a strange presence standing in the stands.
02:37Yes, so I continued, I continued the monologue, I finished it, I continued, I did other monologues.
02:44And when I finished the show, Sergio Gómez, who was the lighting designer, and who lives in Buenos Aires
02:51And I've recommended to people several times that they talk to him because he has incredible contacts.
02:58And Sergio Gómez, who was doing the lighting, came to my dressing room and said to me, "Carlos, I also saw what you saw."
03:05you saw,
03:06A guy almost two meters tall, dressed in silver, is an alien.
03:13Carlos.
03:14If you don't tell me, when I hear myself say, when I hear myself say these things,
03:18I want you to know that if I hadn't seen the things I've seen, I would also think I was crazy.
03:25In all honesty, because I'm clear-headed enough to realize that these are fantastic things,
03:33People don't believe it until they see it.
03:34Exactly, Carlos, you know that your story is followed very closely here in Buenos Aires.
03:42by Jorge Polanco, an airline pilot, who also had a very particular encounter.
03:49If you want, you can say hello to him; he's here with us. Carlos Ferguson, who is a researcher, is also here.
03:54Jorge, I don't know if you want to say hello to Carlos.
03:56Yes, I want to say hello and call him.
03:59Hello Carlos, nice to meet you.
04:01Hello Jorge, how are you, dear?
04:03Very good, very good.
04:04How are you? You must have seen the things you saw being a pilot, the things you must have seen.
04:08And well, he was involved in what later became known as the Polanco incident, wasn't he?
04:12He actually called it the Bariloche case, but in reality I had three very important events,
04:22The one in Bariloche was the best, and I want to add something because he was just talking about Spielberg,
04:30And six months after that event in Bariloche, I met with people from NASA,
04:36which they confirmed to me at one point during the back-and-forth of that interrogation,
04:42When I ask them if they really had extraterrestrial beings and ships,
04:48And they tell me, why are we going to talk about what you already know?
04:53He paused and said, "But I'm going to tell you something,"
04:57We gave Spielberg a lot of information for his first film.
05:02Oh, look, look at her age.
05:03We're talking about 26 years ago, which is no small amount of time; I was there for 26 years.
05:08And here is Carlos Ferguson, who is one of the most serious researchers of this phenomenon,
05:14And he just told me that he came back yesterday from Uruguay, precisely,
05:20He is meeting with the people who are seriously investigating this case,
05:23And well, he knows it because he followed him closely and I've been able to talk to him.
05:27And sometimes we can't talk about those things with everyone.
05:30No, of course not.
05:31But there's something that caught my attention.
05:34Carlos, you saw something that not everyone is prepared to see.
05:41Let me try to be clear.
05:43Not everyone will be able to see it.
05:47No, in the room, those who were there that night, the theater was full, Narcobaleno,
05:55I saw it, and only the boy who did the lighting saw it.
05:59The rest of the audience looked towards where I was speaking and saw nothing.
06:03So you need to be prepared, you need to have, I don't know what.
06:06I don't know what, but there's something there.
06:10Are you one of the chosen ones? Do you think you're one of the chosen ones?
06:13And that, I don't know, maybe, maybe, because many things have happened to me since then.
06:20There it is, I understand you saw some ships on top of a water tank, right?
06:26There in the lagoon area, is this correct?
06:29Yes, yes, that in the lagoon, yes, but I'm going to tell you something else that was more important
06:34because it has a lot to do with Spielberg.
06:38I was working a season at a fabulous hotel with casinos and a hotel and everything,
06:50in Victoria, Entre Ríos, on the edge of Victoria.
06:55And all the hotel rooms had terraces and faced the...
07:03You could see the whole countryside, with the freshwater streams that are in Entre Ríos, everything.
07:09And suddenly I was with my dresser, Maria Andrade, and suddenly I see a spaceship,
07:16a rather large, elongated ship, the shape they have.
07:20Well, we already know, those of us who have seen something, know what the ways are.
07:26And I say to Mari,
07:29Mari, are you seeing what I see, or is it just me?
07:33He tells me, no, no, I'm watching too.
07:35And at that moment, several small ships emerge from the ship.
07:40eight, nine, I didn't cost them.
07:42And they went to the streams to drink fresh water; it seems they were looking for fresh water.
07:48Afterwards, I investigated myself, I found out quite a lot, I learned many things
07:53with the passing of years and life.
07:55How amazing, amazing.
07:58That thing you're talking about.
07:59You know that the lagoon, the lagoon where your house is, is freshwater.
08:03Fresh water, completely.
08:05Everyone who lives on the lagoon, all the neighbors of the lagoon,
08:09with whom we have spoken once or twice,
08:12Everyone has seen it, but no one says anything because they say they'll be thought of as crazy.
08:17Anyway, I don't care if they think I'm crazy.
08:21No, that's clear.
08:21Carlito, so that he wants to do one for you...
08:23I don't mind.
08:24I want to ask Agus Rey a question here.
08:26Yes, Carlos, because you too had recounted a very intense episode at the time.
08:30that you had lived with your sisters up on a mountain in San Carlos,
08:34that in addition to ships you had also seen Niumos.
08:36What was that experience like?
08:39Ah, yes.
08:41I'll tell you about that later, after this.
08:44Because after this I see that ship with those things that...
08:49It was the day of my debut at that newly opened venue.
08:54So, the hotel door and the theater door
08:58It was a huge thing, a massive building.
09:01We had to go outside by truck or...
09:04Because walking was too much.
09:06And I left the hotel and went into the theater, which was full.
09:11And the moment I step onto the stage to start speaking
09:14All the power goes out.
09:17All the light disappears from that enormous casino.
09:20So all you can hear is the sound of the coins
09:24And I say, but it can't be.
09:28This place is so fancy, so huge, and so expensive.
09:31Don't they have generators?
09:34Yes, they have three generators.
09:36So what happens then?
09:37And I tell people, let's go outside and see what's going on.
09:42And we went out and up we went...
09:44I'm not saying it's on par with what we saw in Close Encounters...
09:48I hadn't seen her yet in Close Encounters.
09:51But higher up there was a ship seen from below
09:56which was like the one Spielberg made in Close Encounters.
10:00How wonderful, how wonderful.
10:01So I stood there watching along with the audience.
10:06That's documented because there are accounts there.
10:08Oh, no, of course not.
10:09It is documented.
10:10It is documented.
10:11And besides, I realized I couldn't do a show after that.
10:17unless I didn't throw in a joke or something.
10:22So I say, well, when the ship was there for a while and then left.
10:26For a while, you don't even notice.
10:28It must have been just a second.
10:29He went away.
10:31So I said to the people, well, what do you think of the beginning of the show?
10:35If David Copperfield, who was Twiggy's husband,
10:39He made Paris appear in London, London in Paris, I don't remember.
10:43I can also make a ship appear for them.
10:46And people laughed and thought it was a joke of mine.
10:49What do you think of this joke I played on you?
10:52Well, very good, the whole show came, which was divine.
10:56People were very sensitive.
10:58But it was very good.
11:00And after the performance, a lady who was in the audience,
11:05He tells me, it wasn't a trick, Carlos.
11:09I have one here in Victoria, on such and such street,
11:14a kiosk where I keep extraterrestrial objects,
11:19Things I've been collecting, maps of Argentina,
11:23areas where they go down, areas where they don't go down.
11:26That was the one who told me about fresh water.
11:28And then I say, well, I'll visit you tomorrow, ma'am,
11:32Let's see what he's like.
11:34It was a small kiosk.
11:36The next time I went to Victoria, which I've heard about many times,
11:40Because Entre Ríos is a beautiful province,
11:42with a very warm audience, similar to Uruguayans.
11:47Entre Ríos is the only Argentine square where you can see a monument to Artigas.
11:53She's the only one, look.
11:55It's true.
11:58I went to see her, I saw this lady again,
12:02And currently it has, and I ask you,
12:05that they try to go, to ask people who believe or who don't believe,
12:09Let them go, because now he has an apple,
12:11which is a whole apple,
12:15with materials that are not from the earth.
12:17They can tell me this isn't from this land,
12:19And I have to want to...
12:20And of course.
12:21Okay, Carlitos, wait a little bit.
12:23Carlitos, Professor Ferguson is here.
12:26Carlos Ferguson, who is a researcher.
12:28Yeah.
12:29Why Victoria?
12:30Why Uruguay?
12:33Why this entire area?
12:35Well, greetings to Carlos.
12:38I believe that Uruguay...
12:39Hello how are you?
12:41How are you?
12:42In reality, statistics,
12:44I have been dedicated to this subject for 46 years.
12:46strictly in terms of statistics,
12:48to get an X-ray of the phenomenon.
12:53And there are no specific sighting areas,
12:57except temporarily.
13:00It has not been proven that there is a permanent zone
13:03of sightings of this type.
13:05Yes, in Uruguay I want to highlight,
13:07because I just arrived from Uruguay,
13:09A big hello to everyone there.
13:12They have had an official commission since 1979.
13:16since August 7, 1979,
13:18which is the most important and oldest commission
13:21even of the world,
13:22who is seriously committed to gathering all the testimonies.
13:26Therefore, it is important that,
13:28beyond the fact that there is always a prejudice
13:30that they can say such and such about a witness,
13:33It is important that people communicate with CRIDOVNI.
13:35which is the receiving and investigating commission
13:38of UFO reports from Uruguay.
13:39But I mean, it's not crazy, I mean,
13:41This happens, it doesn't manifest itself.
13:43or there is a degree of manifestation that is very particular.
13:45It is undoubtedly a superior science.
13:48Yeah.
13:49Let's see, there are testimonies,
13:51We base our work on testimonies,
13:53where also within the UFO phenomenon
13:55There are 100% of cases,
13:5790% are confusions and frauds.
14:01There remains a remnant of cases,
14:03those that cannot be explained,
14:05which is what the Pentagon has just ratified
14:07such as unknown technological capabilities.
14:10Carlitos?
14:12Exact.
14:13Yes, exactly.
14:15Exact.
14:15He's like, as they say...
14:16In the lagoon, for example,
14:17Who saw them in the lagoon at your house?
14:20Of the people we know,
14:21of the people,
14:22of the hundreds of celebrities who have gone to visit
14:24throughout all these decades to your home.
14:26Who have they seen at your house?
14:28Look, as far as I can remember,
14:30Raúl Taibo,
14:32Emilio Alfaro,
14:34this...
14:35The Tenuta.
14:36Andrés Tenuta, yes.
14:37Andrés Tenuta wanted to convince me one day
14:39that I was crazy.
14:41Look, Carlitos, I love you.
14:43You taught me how to walk.
14:44I had my first hit,
14:46I'll finish you off, and everything.
14:49But you're a bit obsessed with this topic.
14:54Well, Andrés,
14:55Why didn't you ever see it?
14:56Maybe you're like someone who can't see.
14:58He doesn't believe it.
15:00And we were talking about this
15:01when suddenly he appeared
15:04a ship
15:05way up there at the tip
15:07where the pine trees are,
15:09above the water.
15:11And from that moment on
15:12Andrés never said another word to me.
15:14Clear.
15:14He never said anything to me again.
15:16And yes, that's it.
15:17It has left me speechless.
15:20And Susana...
15:20I have nothing to do with it, Andrés.
15:22Are...
15:23Who?
15:24Susana Jiménez.
15:25Susana Jiménez.
15:25I don't know if it's Susana.
15:28Have you ever been at your house?
15:30No, no, I don't remember.
15:31Was there little left?
15:32No, he stayed a long time.
15:34Was he staying long?
15:34Yes a lot.
15:36This one, but...
15:37No, I don't think I remember Susana.
15:39No, no, not Susana.
15:40But...
15:41It's not for everyone, is it?
15:43To have a meeting
15:44It's not for everyone.
15:45As you mentioned,
15:47There were a thousand people in the theater
15:49and only two people saw it.
15:50In other words, it can also be
15:51that this happens in La Laguna.
15:53Sure, maybe.
15:54Of course it can be.
15:55I'm sure there are people
15:57who sees nothing.
15:58Why are you going to tell me
15:59Do they see it if they don't see it?
16:02Clear.
16:03I'm sure this
16:03It's not for everyone.
16:04You have to have a certain degree
16:06of perception to capture...
16:11I don't know, it's a mystery.
16:12It remains a mystery to me.
16:13Wait, Gustavo.
16:14I would like Carlos to tell
16:15What's been happening lately?
16:17which has increased
16:18The activity, right?
16:19Ah, yes, now...
16:20I have photos now.
16:23Photos taken by me
16:24that someday
16:25We're going to show them.
16:26Don't we have the photo here or not?
16:28We cannot...
16:29No, I don't have them.
16:31I did not know
16:32that we were going to talk
16:32on this topic.
16:33What do you see in the photo?
16:34What do you see in the photo?
16:35This saint took me away from home.
16:36What do you see in the photo?
16:37The ships can be seen.
16:38Ah, yes.
16:39I was at the...
16:40You appointed
16:43on a hill in San Carlos
16:46which is called the Hill of Light
16:48which is very popular
16:51and that's very rare
16:52because he was telling me
16:54the one who lives there,
16:56the one who manages this a bit.
17:00He is a very humble man,
17:02very simple
17:02and that I saw many cars
17:05that arrived
17:07and when they arrived
17:08at the door of this place
17:10They didn't get in,
17:11They turned around and left.
17:13And he would tell me
17:14Do you know what's going on?
17:16These are people
17:16of which the ships
17:17They won't let them through.
17:20They influence them
17:21so they don't get in
17:22or because they don't believe
17:24or because it won't be
17:24good advertising.
17:26And at this point
17:27the match
17:28It's so wonderful
17:30all that is mysterious
17:32and the weird thing
17:33And how curious it all is.
17:34excellent,
17:36I said
17:36Oh yes, yes.
17:38I was with my sister
17:39who is a scientist,
17:41physics teacher
17:42which of course
17:43neither.
17:44Didn't you believe me?
17:45No, he didn't believe me.
17:46He said that I...
17:47I don't know what it said.
17:49But he didn't believe me.
17:51She didn't believe it.
17:53Carlos.
17:54And then...
17:55Yes, she did.
17:56No,
17:57And I imagine here
17:57which also
17:59Jorge must be thinking
18:00He's listening to you
18:00that to Jorge
18:01They must have also
18:02believed at one time
18:04when he told
18:05when you got off
18:06or you descended
18:07from the airport
18:08from Bariloche
18:08It won't have happened to you
18:10the same.
18:10Nobody believed you or not.
18:11We're talking
18:1226 years ago
18:14and the concept
18:16and credibility
18:17It was at stake.
18:19Any pilot
18:20that it had
18:21an event of this
18:22and tell it
18:23could be taken
18:25misunderstood
18:26and questioned.
18:28Yeah.
18:28I was lucky
18:29I have to say it
18:30despite the evil
18:32movement that I passed
18:33because I didn't pass it
18:33good at that moment
18:35I was lucky
18:36above me
18:37There was a plane
18:38of the gendarmerie
18:38with two military personnel
18:39high grade
18:40who were the ones who
18:42then they accompanied me
18:43in a pile
18:44of places
18:45to bear witness
18:47and also
18:47with more than 30 people
18:49at the airport
18:51from Bariloche
18:51and also
18:52who
18:55they were driving
18:55what at that moment
18:56It was the energy
18:57from the airport
18:57that to whom it stops
18:59the generating equipment
19:00as he said
19:01good
19:02that turned off
19:03the teams
19:04UFOs
19:05or that type
19:06of demonstrations
19:07It is common
19:08when a ship
19:09It's near
19:10from some generating equipment
19:12sucks
19:13all the energy
19:14for everything
19:14and demagnetizes
19:15all the instruments
19:17clear
19:17Well
19:18I lived it
19:19Yes, wonderful.
19:21I want to be honest
19:22Did you say something?
19:24which is simple
19:26Carlos
19:26Not everyone can see it
19:27Not everyone has
19:28open-mindedness
19:29to be able to see that
19:31It's like standing still at night
19:32on the route
19:33in the dark
19:34And there are people
19:35that will see
19:35the mill
19:38the cows
19:39And there are people
19:40that gets like this
19:40and sees nothing
19:41so
19:42This is the same thing
19:43the head
19:44of each one
19:45He has that power
19:46of perception
19:47or to be able to see
19:48things that others
19:49They will never be able to see
19:53Well
19:54You were lucky
19:55of being with
19:57military
19:57that they had
19:58who accompanied you
19:59and they accompanied you
20:00and they helped you
20:01This was 26 years ago
20:03I am already 81
20:05and I didn't do the math
20:06from when it was
20:07the first time I saw
20:08in the 70s
20:09but
20:09And what do I know?
20:10I remember
20:11so many years ago
20:12that work always
20:13all the
20:14every summer
20:15But I want to tell you
20:16this
20:18when I went to the hill
20:19the one you mentioned
20:21to the hill of light
20:22in San Carlos
20:23that some cars
20:26They don't enter
20:26They turn around
20:27and I went in
20:28and he welcomed me
20:29This boy Miguel
20:30and well
20:31There's a lot of walking involved.
20:33me at that moment
20:34still
20:34I was walking
20:35wonderfully well
20:36I'm coming back now
20:38to walk
20:38again
20:39because I had a period
20:41half
20:42bad
20:43with
20:43my mobility
20:45Well
20:46and we went up
20:47we have to go up
20:47the whole hill
20:48east of the light
20:49which is like it's cut off
20:50with a
20:51with a machine
20:52And then you see
20:54all the lands
20:55of the different colors
20:56The one on top is black
20:58the one below
20:59red stocking
21:00then a half rod
21:02then another gray half-mast
21:04Then there's like a lake
21:06artificial
21:07and one
21:08and a huge
21:09esplanade
21:10of stones
21:12and a quarter
21:13in which
21:14Sometimes people ask
21:16to go and stay
21:17go to sleep
21:17or to have
21:18meditate
21:20meditate
21:20Yeah
21:20so
21:21all this
21:22sign
21:23with this man
21:24charming
21:24which was called
21:26is called
21:26is called
21:27Miguel
21:27and this
21:28and
21:30I was going up
21:31and suddenly
21:32I wanted to sit down
21:34awhile
21:35because it was
21:36a little tired
21:37and
21:39to my astonishment
21:40I saw
21:43some gnomes
21:44Oh look
21:45look
21:45below
21:46Let's see, let's see
21:47Wait for me a little bit
21:48Carlos
21:48Wait for me a little bit
21:49Did you see a gnome?
21:51let's see
21:51a gnome
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