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Este video es un episodio emblemático del programa "El otro lado", conducido por el periodista Fabián Polosecki, emitido originalmente por el canal estatal ATC (Argentina Televisora Color).
En esta entrega, Polosecki explora el fenómeno de los Objetos Voladores No Identificados (OVNIs) en Argentina desde una perspectiva documental y urbana, característica de su estilo.
Los participantes destacados incluyen:
- Alejandro Agostinelli: Periodista especializado en ufología con una visión escéptica y científica.
- Dante Franch: Investigador y contactista, conocido por sus relatos sobre experiencias directas con seres de otros mundos.
- Eduardo Marrazzi: Periodista de la revista Flash, quien aportó el enfoque más sensacionalista o popular de la época.
El programa es recordado por su estética nocturna y su capacidad para dar voz a testimonios de personas comunes que aseguraban haber tenido encuentros cercanos, sin juzgarlos, permitiendo que el espectador sacara sus propias conclusiones.
En esta entrega, Polosecki explora el fenómeno de los Objetos Voladores No Identificados (OVNIs) en Argentina desde una perspectiva documental y urbana, característica de su estilo.
Los participantes destacados incluyen:
- Alejandro Agostinelli: Periodista especializado en ufología con una visión escéptica y científica.
- Dante Franch: Investigador y contactista, conocido por sus relatos sobre experiencias directas con seres de otros mundos.
- Eduardo Marrazzi: Periodista de la revista Flash, quien aportó el enfoque más sensacionalista o popular de la época.
El programa es recordado por su estética nocturna y su capacidad para dar voz a testimonios de personas comunes que aseguraban haber tenido encuentros cercanos, sin juzgarlos, permitiendo que el espectador sacara sus propias conclusiones.
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00:03Hello, capital, fatso, it costs 40 pesos for half an hour for a share.
00:11And the police were coming from 200 meters away to kill us.
00:18I follow him to the circus.
00:20When I die someday, my body will disappear and the silicone will remain intact.
00:37I believe the owner 50% and the worst one 50%.
00:42So that I call myself by people, that where there is a hole sticking.
00:51I have breasts, that excites me.
01:04It's not the cost of traveling with the lady.
01:52The city is a place of such small orbits that one ends up forgetting that one lives on a planet.
01:59There are people, however, who do not forget it and remain attentive to the affairs of heaven.
02:05What they say is so extraordinary that it almost catches our attention.
02:14I believe that I am somehow in contact with him through the psychography of his drawing that I have made at some point.
02:20moment.
02:21What's that?
02:22Psychography is drawing with the mind.
02:24I suddenly feel here, like a dictation.
02:29It's like having a hearing aid, but here.
02:32And I start to write something or draw something that I don't know where it comes from and that scares me.
02:47My personal opinion is that there is none, there really is no evidence of extraterrestrials in any of this data.
02:58To this day there is no evidence.
03:00It does not mean that it does not exist, or that it is not detected.
03:03There is no clue that would allow us to infer anything like that.
03:08I think that nowadays many people have information and keep it to themselves.
03:13Political and religious sectors have really solid information about the presence of extraterrestrial ships in antiquity and they remain silent.
03:36Yes, will there be a ship around here?
03:43You know, any star can be a spaceship.
03:46Sometimes spaceships are mistaken for stars.
03:52But come on, come on!
03:53There is no precise time.
03:55Sometimes I go to bed at 2 or 3 in the morning, I pass by the window, I call myself
03:58I look out the window and see the ships.
04:00Sometimes it's 8 pm.
04:02There isn't a specific, key time when they appear.
04:05Is tonight a good night to look at the sky?
04:08Yes, she's beautiful.
04:10From what I can see, there are hearts in violet, which is the color of transmuting blue and gold, right?
04:23And where do you see it?
04:24There it is, right in front of me, four colorful hearts, huh?
04:55Amarrasi, working as a journalist, had allowed him to connect the world of television stars with the stars of
05:01darling.
05:01For some reason, close encounters among celebrities had recently multiplied, as if extraterrestrials preferred them to be famous.
05:11I'm very interested in looking at the sky, that's for sure, I see a lot, I look at the sky, I look, especially at
05:16evening.
05:17But I look around because I've had surprises when I least expected them in the most unusual places in the country, no
05:22always in the same place.
05:23I had the opportunity to see UFOs 7 times in 7 different places in the country and in 7 different situations.
05:29Why is that? Is it because you pay more attention than other people, or because, well,
05:33Have you already started seeing UFOs, and are they revealing themselves to you for some reason?
05:37And that's a topic I tend to avoid because, for example, Mirta de Gran is a person
05:45who has given me the opportunity to go on the show twice, but she rebels because she never saw anything.
05:50Then he revealed himself and said to me, "Why did you see me 7 times and I never saw anything?"
05:54And that question that Mirta asked me is one that everyone asks me.
05:56What's more, they ask you if you're one of the chosen ones, and that word seems too big for you.
06:00Yes, I do believe I'm lucky, but...
06:04But somewhere in your heart you feel that you are one of the chosen ones.
06:08There's something, there's something special because it can't be that there are people who, yes, there are people who are interested
06:16This topic without ever having seen anything, from reading, from paying attention to what is happening, from listening to the radio
06:21And then they look and look and look at the sky and never see anything.
06:25Others who started paying attention after some event and who had the opportunity to see something,
06:30such as the case of Zulma Fayad.
06:32And there are people—I say artists because they're the ones I deal with most, because it's my job in journalism—
06:37But I'm about to write a second book with testimonies from people ranging from a bricklayer to a member of parliament.
06:45the nation, who have ever seen something.
06:50Spielberg is considered one of the great contactees with beings from other places in the world.
06:58Spielberg just won 10 Oscars and it's no coincidence.
07:05Spielberg is making a movie called Magic 12, which is his next film.
07:09What do the Oscars have to do with UFOs?
07:12Spielberg is going to be recognized worldwide even more than he is now after all this
07:18time, because they know for sure that something is happening with him at this level.
07:25Who knows?
07:26The rulers.
07:27The United States is now going to give him a film that they have had stored away since 1947.
07:33At the Pentagon they filmed, they hid a ship with four beings, like the ones they send to this American magazine.
07:42But you're saying Spielberg...
07:44Spielberg is going to make a movie called Magic 12.
07:47But that you are contacting extraterrestrials.
07:50Yes, he's been saying that since he was a kid.
07:53This being, which is a photo of a being that is at NASA, is very similar, look, to the E
07:59.T. from his movie.
08:00And he had been seeing it since he was four years old, E.T. in his house, and his parents didn't believe him.
08:04nor the brothers.
08:05But are you saying that E.T. was in Spielberg's house?
08:07That's what Spielberg says in an autobiography I read.
08:11But beyond that...
08:12And he was playing games with her and all that with the movie?
08:16That's what he says, that he made E.T. to prove to the world, to his family first, to his
08:20friends later and out into the world.
08:21In general, what happened to him when he was a kid.
08:23He says he's going to make this film; he said so recently to the international news agency ANSA.
08:30where they will allow him to film, they will allow him to use the footage of the ship and the beings that
08:35They fell in 1947 in New Mexico,
08:37in the same place where he made Close Encounter,
08:41so that the world may have a definitive revelation of what the UFO phenomenon is.
08:48Spielberg receives ideas for his films through telepathic contact.
08:52There are people who make music, many people who make music.
08:57Here in Argentina there are people right now, Daniel Fumega is one of them,
09:04Well, there are people abroad who send cassettes from Spain, Italy, and Germany.
09:09For example, many people are distributing cassettes here,
09:12received in this type of trance, types who sit on an organ and make a compact of one.
09:18For example, then Spielberg's situation could be that they're sending things like...
09:23I think Spielberg lets things unfold gradually.
09:26I think he's giving orders little by little, and it could be that they're inducing him to send things.
09:31little by little,
09:31Because I've seen Close Encounter six times, and every time I see it I find new things.
09:36underlying messages, direct or indirect, of things that later happened or occurred.
09:43In a way, Marrase was thus inaugurating a new style of film criticism.
09:49Among the films with messages, Spielberg's might be the most profound.
09:53They contained nothing less than an extraterrestrial message.
10:27Alejandro Agostinelli had chased UFOs for many years, but now he was back.
10:33He was a journalist specializing in pseudoscience phenomena.
10:37With the same fervor with which he had previously searched for lights in the sky,
10:41Now he dedicated himself to interrogating those who claimed to have seen flying saucers.
10:44to demystify their views.
10:47Whether she was on one side or the other of the faith, UFOs had not abandoned her.
10:54And did you used to believe in UFOs?
10:57Look, in general, when one starts out, people who are involved in the UFO phenomenon
11:03It always starts with believing, doesn't it?
11:05Believing that there is something transcendent, that there is something beyond the stories
11:11And the stories that are told, right?
11:14Yes, I did. When I first became interested in this topic around the year 1977,
11:21I even started to integrate myself into groups dedicated to UFO research
11:26and to create groups dedicated to UFO research,
11:30I had an attitude of belief, let's say, that there were extraterrestrials visiting us and so on.
11:36This trend, right?
11:37Which was somewhat the view I subscribed to when I first started on the UFO topic
11:41That's why I can understand her perfectly.
11:43and I even sympathize with many of the people who still have that way of seeing the issue
11:50In fact, I was one of them
11:52That's exactly what it's about, isn't it?
11:57a preconceived belief and not conducting a serious, objective investigation
12:03without the prejudice that they are extraterrestrials.
12:07And what did your friends say to you?
12:10It's just that all my friends were ufologists at that time
12:13In other words, throughout that entire period
12:15I was practically surrounded by people who were also studying the subject, right?
12:20Many of those friends are still...
12:22I don't have many left today, do I?
12:24Because today many of those friends are criticizing me, aren't they?
12:28The fact that they see me as a kind of traitor, right?
12:31That I was involved in the UFO movement
12:34and that now from the outside
12:36From, let's say, my perspective, which is that of journalism
12:40when I write something about the topic
12:43What I write is to demystify
12:46And they don't like that because
12:48Obviously because I know the subject, right?
12:52And I know what I'm talking about
12:53And they know I know what I'm talking about, right?
12:55That might be partly why
12:58that...
12:59In other words, I'm not one of those skeptics who go out
13:02from the outside and what they say
13:03Ah, you're all nonsense.
13:05what people believe
13:06And well, we should forget about that because it's not important at all.
13:09No, I say I was
13:12within that movement of believers in extraterrestrials
13:15which I was able to realize over time
13:18that it was all a big myth
13:20which was a great fable
13:21that there were many interested people
13:22that we would continue to believe in extraterrestrials
13:26so they can continue selling their books and magazines
13:29his films and so on
13:32and that, well, and that
13:34Now, from another place
13:36I can say some things I couldn't say before.
13:38because it was imbued with all that belief
13:41And maybe that's what's seen as something messed up, right?
13:46Someone from outside comes and tells you
13:48everything I believed
13:51They were just silly things, weren't they?
13:53And have you personally ever gone to look at UFOs?
13:56Well, what I did do was
13:58research a lot
13:59I still do it occasionally today.
14:03interview witnesses to these experiences
14:05to try to understand
14:06What happened at the place
14:08Yes, me, especially during the 80s
14:12I did a lot of field research
14:14interviewing witnesses
14:16even going to places where
14:18They were supposed to appear
14:20in birds
14:21For example, I was at the Aurora
14:23I was in Capilla del Monte
14:24And well, for example
14:26in Aurora, in the Aurora residence
14:28I had my first UFO experience
14:29No?
14:30I was with a friend who is a ufologist, Alejandro Cionetti.
14:32in that place, in that room of the Aurora
14:35at that time it was very popular
14:37the idea that there were sightings there
14:40in such a way, more or less recurrently
14:43also related to previous experiences
14:45that the owner of the ranch had had
14:47a tall one
14:49and well, and one night
14:51with my friend Cionetti
14:54We were there
14:56waiting for something to happen
14:58suddenly we started to give
14:59from searching so much
15:00We found a little light that was moving.
15:02a series of strange little lights
15:04over the horizon
15:05and we at that moment
15:07we thought it was something
15:08really strange
15:09above all
15:12my friend
15:12who was much more religious
15:13that I
15:14and what he was telling me
15:14yes
15:15that we were
15:16then
15:17we were in the middle
15:18of
15:18of
15:19of
15:19of
15:20a chessboard
15:21and that intelligence
15:23of the phenomenon
15:24He was manipulating us
15:25then we were
15:27we fed off each other
15:28suggestion
15:29No?
15:29And what did you say to him?
15:30And I was telling him
15:31that for the hand
15:32brother
15:33We need to see clearly
15:34Let's see what that's about.
15:35I was using binoculars
15:35no
15:37and this
15:37and well
15:38And I saw that in reality
15:39there was no
15:40a great
15:41a really very strange thing
15:42But what could it be?
15:43No?
15:44something unusual
15:45especially after the stories
15:46that the owner had told us
15:47of the stay
15:48No?
15:48probably
15:49without the stories
15:50that the owner had told us
15:51of the stay
15:52we would never have noticed
15:53in those lights
15:53the next day
16:03we discovered
16:04surely
16:04what we saw
16:05It was the lights
16:06of the cars
16:06that passed
16:07and a fixed light
16:07which also
16:08likely
16:09It was from a house
16:10that could be seen in the distance
16:12How much time passed
16:13since you saw
16:14those lights
16:15in the sky
16:16in that room
16:17and
16:17to discover
16:19for you
16:19which were
16:20cars?
16:22No
16:22We discovered that
16:23at the moment
16:24the next day
16:25What were they walking on?
16:27in that direction?
16:27clear
16:27the next day
16:28us
16:28this
16:30I
16:30more interested
16:31that my friend
16:32who looked convinced
16:33that he was an alien
16:34or that it was something strange
16:35this
16:36I found out
16:37And I realized
16:37yes
16:38that perfectly
16:39we went to the place
16:40where supposedly
16:41were
16:41these lights
16:43and
16:43this
16:44and we discovered
16:44that there was a
16:45And that night
16:46What did you think?
16:47And I that night
16:48I thought
16:48that
16:49that
16:49had
16:51fear
16:52I was afraid
16:53I remember
16:54that he was afraid
16:54I mean
16:55the night before
16:55I was afraid
16:56I was afraid
16:57that
16:57those lights
16:58they would approach
16:59us
16:59and
17:00and they kidnapped us
17:02For example
17:02that
17:03this
17:03which was an idea
17:04quite frequent
17:06No?
17:06And what is it that attracts you?
17:07so much still
17:08about that
17:09What if you no longer believe?
17:09Like I was saying before
17:10what is
17:11he
17:11the myth
17:13No?
17:14even
17:14the religious dimension
17:16of that myth
17:17all the
17:18the
17:18the
17:19the
17:20the ingredients
17:21magical
17:22folkloric
17:23and sociological
17:24psychological
17:24There are so many interesting things.
17:26for
17:26investigate
17:27not only
17:28in cases
17:29of UFOs
17:29in cases
17:29of appearances
17:30of the Virgin Mary
17:31in cases
17:32of appearances
17:33of beings
17:34extraordinary
17:34of the mink
17:35in cases
17:36this
17:37of any other
17:38entity
17:39magic
17:41in a time
17:41he put
17:42fashionable
17:43the cat man
17:44are
17:44urban legends
17:46clear
17:46They are folklores
17:47pure
17:48No?
17:48that what is changing
17:49It's the label
17:50depending on the context
17:51cultural
17:51in a very religious area
17:52They are going to see the Virgin Mary
17:54in a more influenced area
17:55on television
17:56and through the media
17:56They're going to see an alien.
18:25to see UFOs
18:26some were traveling
18:27to distant mountains
18:29others, however
18:30They didn't need to go out
18:31from his house
18:33I was the director
18:34from a group of actors
18:35dedicated to doing
18:36mystical theatre
18:37whose viewers
18:39main
18:39They were in another galaxy
18:44Here in this window
18:45Are you looking?
18:46here in this window
18:47Yeah
18:47many times
18:49I saw it here once
18:50And what are they like?
18:53and well
18:54the biggest
18:55that I saw
18:55It was a
18:56which was
18:57really
18:58very large
18:59Spielberg type
19:00with
19:02many lights
19:03a
19:03really strong
19:05above
19:05two on the sides
19:07In which area?
19:09like up in the tree
19:10Do you see that tree?
19:11What's there?
19:11Yeah
19:11like up in that tree
19:13I saw her
19:14me at the beginning
19:14I thought it was an antenna
19:15that a neighbor had put
19:16way back
19:17of those antennas
19:18that they put
19:19so for
19:19I don't know
19:20someone who dedicates
19:21that
19:23and then I saw that the antenna
19:24it was moving
19:25and made strange movements
19:26so I said
19:27No
19:27This is an antenna
19:28it's not
19:29And I saw this
19:30after a meditation
19:31the dogs
19:32They were barking
19:33for the ship
19:34directly
19:35looking like that
19:36barking at those lights
19:37and a vibration was felt
19:39that vibrated
19:40the whole house
19:40which would be 3 in the morning
19:42more or less
19:43then
19:44we were
19:45meditating
19:46As I was saying
19:46with the boys
19:47and I called them
19:48We all came here
19:50and we turned off the lights
19:51then
19:52Turn off the lights
19:53that ship
19:54and it's clearly visible
19:55who has a little skirt
19:56of colored lights
19:57and he was going there
20:00He turned off the lights
20:01when we turn off
20:02we the lights
20:02guy
20:04sign
20:05Well, that's true
20:06I see it almost every night
20:07They are lights
20:08colored lights
20:10that are put
20:11re big
20:11then they get smaller
20:13and they do
20:14Other lights are coming
20:15and they do something like a dance
20:16among them
20:16with a few movements
20:17extremely rare
20:18and disappear
20:21and
20:21and you see her
20:21Only you see that
20:23or are you with someone
20:24all
20:24all of us who are here
20:25whenever I see that
20:26They see them
20:27all
20:28all
20:29You're around there somewhere
20:30What can I tell you?
20:30an astral
20:31many
20:31that I'm going to look
20:32and
20:33smoked
20:34the other one doesn't see her
20:36but this experience
20:37of the large ship
20:38It was two years ago.
20:39Now he's coming
20:40Now I would feel encouraged.
20:41the window attracts me
20:43and I say
20:43I'm going to look out the window
20:44And there are the ships
20:46And they are
20:47that attract you
20:47Do you think?
20:49Hey
20:49It is an energy
20:51that attracts me
20:51It's obvious
20:53because sometimes
20:54I don't know
20:54I'm around here
20:55say
20:55I'm going to see
20:56I look
20:56and there is nothing
20:58but sometimes
20:59I am drawn to energy
20:59in a way
21:00I'm going to the window
21:01And there they are.
21:03Sometimes there is a
21:04two
21:05three
21:05four
21:06Sometimes there are many
21:07an incredible thing
21:08like dances
21:09do
21:18And the first ship
21:20When did you see her?
21:21the first ship
21:23I saw her in '88
21:27not the big ship
21:29this one I'm telling you about
21:29No
21:29those other ships
21:31that I saw
21:31three ships together
21:32golden
21:33which were
21:34type of suns
21:36but spherical
21:37And I saw those.
21:38over the river
21:39of the silver
21:40And you didn't hesitate
21:42So
21:42which could be
21:43a reflection
21:44or something like that?
21:45No
21:46No
21:46because this
21:47wine with everything
21:48a spiritual message
21:50I mean
21:51It was an experience
21:52mysticism that I had
21:53which lasted me
21:54quite a few days
21:55months
21:56It didn't happen overnight
21:57for the other
21:58It is knowledge
21:59that I already
22:00brought
22:00and after
22:02I don't know
22:03in certain books
22:04or to chat
22:06with people
22:06It was the same
22:08that I felt
22:08the same
22:09what they said
22:09the books
22:10or the same
22:10who spoke
22:11people
22:11and I said
22:12Well
22:13so crazy
22:14I am not
22:14exists
22:15all this
22:15Did you think
22:16that you were crazy
22:17in a moment?
22:17Yeah
22:17at a moment
22:18Yeah
22:18completely
22:20When did you see
22:21the ships
22:21There in the river?
22:23And when I saw the ships
22:24and when I was a girl
22:25also
22:25that I always felt
22:27how strange
22:28strange
22:29I didn't feel like I recognized myself.
22:30with my family
22:32I felt it too
22:32that melancholy
22:34of having lost
22:35of my home
22:36something like that
22:36and it says
22:38But I'm at home.
22:39with my parents
22:40and all
22:40and yet
22:41I feel like I'm not at home
22:43It seemed to me like a thing
22:45quite rare and strong
22:47No?
22:47until finally
22:48I understood that it was all that
22:50And it was a relief.
22:51immense
22:52and that's when
22:54I found my home again
22:55my spiritual home
22:57Had you spoken to me?
22:59to work or...?
23:01No
23:02because
23:02I mean
23:03I never got touched
23:04go out to work
23:05Did you never work?
23:06No
23:07I always dedicated myself
23:08to art
23:08I never had to go out
23:10so let's get to work
23:11in office
23:12and so?
23:13So that
23:14Did your parents help you?
23:15to live?
23:16Yeah
23:17Let's say I had
23:18like a species
23:20luckily
23:21in quotation marks
23:22No?
23:22at the economic level
23:23and well
23:25That helped me too.
23:26at least
23:26I made contact with the earth
23:28then all the activities
23:30body
23:31get more contact
23:33with my body
23:33It helped me a lot
23:36to be more
23:37I don't?
23:38more armed
23:39more my energy
23:40aligned
23:40and well
23:42more united
23:43heaven and earth
23:45And your dad
23:46what does it tell you
23:46of all this?
23:48and my dad
23:51believes
23:51more or less
23:53what thing?
23:54in all this
23:55in extraterrestrials
23:57and he's somewhat incredulous
23:58like everyone else
23:59from that time
24:00No?
24:01but I also feel
24:02which is a little
24:03open
24:04Let's see this new stuff
24:05that is opening
24:06because he sees that there are many people
24:07that talks about the topic
24:09this topic
24:10of the extraterrestrials
24:11How will you be able to
24:13explain?
24:14there comes a time
24:16in which one
24:18loses track
24:19of what it is
24:19inside
24:20and what is outside
24:21No?
24:21I mean
24:22where is
24:23The alien?
24:24Is it inside?
24:24of one
24:25Or is it outside?
24:26or is inside
24:26and it's outside
24:27also
24:28then if we see it
24:29as
24:29like everything
24:31It's part of everything
24:32and if
24:33could be
24:33also inspired
24:34by extraterrestrials
24:35or else
24:36by our
24:37superior self
24:37or our spiritual side
24:41a ship
24:42It's like a spaceship
24:43No?
24:44a ship
24:44It's like a spaceship
24:45Yeah
24:46but also
24:47We have a ship
24:48in the heart
24:49A spaceship?
24:50clear
24:50Why a spaceship?
24:51and because life
24:52It's a journey
24:55a trip
24:56a trip
24:57lifetime
24:58It's a journey
25:05Come on guys
25:07You know?
25:08We're almost there
25:09to the energy center
25:11It is one of the seven centers
25:13of energy powers
25:15where ships appear
25:16the largest on the planet
25:30Yes, give it a try
25:31give it
25:32Because wait for me
25:37watch out here
25:38I think we've arrived
25:42Let's try
25:43with the pendulum
25:44this one I made
25:45Look at the energy
25:47it moves
25:48Yeah
25:49it moves
25:49What does that mean?
25:51This is the energy center
25:52Spaceships will appear here
26:16a child's gaze
26:20in a greeting
26:22in our hearts
26:25universal love is found there
26:28that manifests
26:30in infinite ways
26:32throughout all creation
26:34throughout all creation
26:35That is true love
26:37that transcends everything
26:39religions
26:41cultures
26:42languages
26:43fears
26:47just as it did hundreds of centuries ago
26:50the Lord
26:51The Lord sent his angels
26:53to our galaxy
26:56He's doing it here
26:58now with all of us
27:27as it did hundreds of centuries ago
27:41If I suddenly really believed that extraterrestrials were out there
27:45Every act, every daily gesture had to change its meaning forever.
27:52According to some ufologists, we weren't as alone here as it seemed either.
27:56They were not only looking for extraterrestrials in the sky, but also on Earth.
28:08In his books and through a foundation he ran
28:13Dante Franch had revealed the existence of Erx
28:16An underground city of aliens
28:20I have had the opportunity to see them and to photograph them in some cases
28:24And what are they like?
28:26The cases I've dealt with, I'll tell you about two extremes
28:29On one occasion I had contact with beings who did not reveal their origin.
28:35They don't tell me where they're from, but they were 3 meters tall.
28:38They were encased as if they were wearing some kind of diving suit.
28:42Like something out of The Musketeers
28:46In other words, you couldn't see the face, just an oval-shaped casing
28:49And brownish in color and an opaque uniform
28:52They didn't have...
28:53The footprints they left were round; limbs or hands were not visible.
28:57But they convey that they were at that moment collecting seaweed and fish eggs.
29:04At the Salazanes dam
29:06Because with that they formed a food for beings that were with them in the underground cities
29:12And that these beings, in some cases, were even human beings.
29:15Which underground cities?
29:17This is about the topic, in this case, of Capilla del Monte.
29:21That is, from the areas bordering Uritorco
29:26Below Cerro Uritorco, between Huertas Malas and Los Terrones
29:30There is a concavity at an average depth of about 500 meters.
29:35Which is partly natural and partly shaped by the Intergalactic Confederation
29:41And there's an underground base in that location.
29:44Where the Confederation uses it as an intermediate base
29:49Even using gravitational vectors that exist in that area
29:55Complex?
29:55Did they take that off you?
29:57No, not just me
29:58In other words, this is a concept used worldwide.
30:02When I am going to give a series of lectures between Rawson and Madryn
30:06At one of the conferences in Madryn, I asked to be taken to the Valdés Peninsula.
30:09I'm being driven by someone whose name I can't remember right now.
30:12He lived there, and he's a mechanic.
30:15And I'm staying in a place called Loguerías
30:17It's located a little before the Peninsula
30:20In a shelter that there is
30:23It's a very small building
30:28After an hour of being there alone
30:30Because this other person moves about 500 meters away from the place
30:32And he leaves me alone
30:33It's coming like a bright green sphere
30:37He's coming towards where I was.
30:38It passes by, it heads back towards the sea.
30:41And after half an hour
30:43A platform rises from the sea
30:45It was about 50 meters in diameter
30:48With spheres around
30:50As if they were lampposts and spheres of light
30:53That illuminated that platform
30:55And he stayed for about 15 minutes
30:58On the water, only to sink again
31:00Leaving a phosphorescent tint on the water
31:04That's what you saw
31:05I saw him physically
31:06I was transmitting a type of knowledge
31:09Very deep
31:11Regarding the ships of the Intergalactic Confederation
31:13Within the Cosmic Plan for Earth
31:17And it seems they had to give an approval
31:20In other words, it's different from a place where one
31:22It's like they go and guarantee
31:24What you're saying
31:26They are supporting what one transmits
31:27They're monitoring what you're saying to me.
31:30In what way?
31:31They monitor it through sensors
31:33I call those sensors
31:35Caneplas
31:35Although the terminology may have another origin
31:38But the sensor itself is a kind of
31:40What is a caneplas?
31:41It's a small ball, like a tennis ball.
31:45Or a little bigger
31:49That's a sensor they use to monitor you.
31:52You may be filming, recording, capturing your vibrational frequency
31:57Your heart and brain sequence
32:01They are doing absolute and total monitoring of your physical body
32:05Right here, at this very moment
32:06They may be doing it right now.
32:08And why not us?
32:10With the three-dimensional eye you can't see them
32:12Because?
32:13Because we perceive according to a frequency
32:15It goes from infrared to ultraviolet
32:17And it is within the light capture spectrum
32:20It's very, very small.
32:21Only certain mobility patterns need to change
32:24From the atomic structure that makes up that object
32:26Or any other object
32:28So that it is not visible to the human eye
32:30And did they explain that to you?
32:31They explained that to me.
32:32Or from the canopy?
32:34Canepla, not on the term
32:36I came up with that term instead of calling it a little ball of light
32:38And what is canepla?
32:40Canepla is what I'm talking about.
32:42But what is the word, I ask?
32:44Nothing, is a word that
32:45You invented
32:46No, it's a word that another contact
32:48Who is Sisto Paz, from Peru?
32:49He called it, I think, caneplas
32:51To some spheres through which he entered
32:53And for which he could be transferred
32:55To other points, let's say, in space
32:57Or of places
32:58I call these spheres caneplas
33:01And to the translation teams
33:06I call them disintegrators
33:08Because that term is indeed conveyed to me.
33:09And that ship is a ship of the Intergalactic Confederation
33:13In other words, it's not a spaceship from a planet.
33:15Or from an X system
33:16It is a Confederation ship
33:18It has a solid, metallic structure.
33:21And why the confederation?
33:22Well, this is a transmission
33:23That they have given me
33:24And they've given it to other contacts around the world
33:26This ship is not from a planet.
33:27Or of a star system
33:28That has been built
33:31As a means of transport
33:32For planetary systems
33:34That they have not accessed what is called
33:37Hyperspace technology
33:39Would you be like some kind of ambassador?
33:42From the intergalactic confederation?
33:44No ambassador
33:45They simply established contact with me.
33:47I have been given information
33:48And well, I haven't gone delirious.
33:50In other words, the contact
33:51Or people who have had experiences
33:53There are many
33:53But the vast majority are delirious
33:55Or he starts to believe he's one of the chosen ones
33:58A reincarnation of an apostle
34:02Or other things
34:02In other words, the danger in this
34:04It's not about having the lived experience
34:06Otherwise, it's delusional.
34:09Perhaps having knowledge
34:11Of such momentous matters
34:12It must have seriously disturbed people
34:15It would have happened to me.
34:17I didn't know if Maria
34:18That she was a disciple of Franch
34:20She had also experienced it
34:32In addition to investigating UFOs
34:34Dante Franch
34:35He was a kind of spiritual guide
34:36For a group of initiates
34:39I arranged to meet Maria.
34:40One of her disciples
34:42I wanted to know what discipline was necessary.
34:45To enjoy that class
34:46And extraterrestrial contacts
34:50So what is it like?
34:51Are you asking him?
34:51I ask
34:52He asks her out loud
34:53Yes, I'm talking to myself
34:54How is?
34:55And I tell him
34:56This...
34:57Brother
34:58We call them superior brothers
35:00Superior Brothers
35:01Whenever you want to come and get me
35:03Whenever you want to come and get me
35:04I'm ready
35:04I would like to go
35:06I would like to take a trip
35:08I would like to meet
35:10And to prepare myself further
35:13And to be able to help the whole planet
35:16Earth, for example
35:17I tell you
35:18Now, I'll remain silent.
35:21I prayed before.
35:24Prayer is the rosary
35:25Rosary
35:26So, I do three a day
35:28And I have prayed the rosary
35:31It's like preparing
35:32It is entering spiritually
35:38Enter into harmony
35:39Then
35:41No?
35:41And yes, they answer me.
35:44But it's a buzzing sound
35:45So
35:46From here
35:47What is the buzzing?
35:49Here
35:49So
35:51They tune in to me
35:52It's tuning in just like a radio.
35:55And then they answer me.
35:57That's an answer.
35:58Do they tune his head?
36:00Yeah
36:00The ear
36:01No, not the head.
36:02The ear
36:03Well, the one from...
36:03Yeah
36:04It's like a...
36:05I tune into a radio
36:07And that I don't take the wave well.
36:08The ear does...
36:10Does he do that to you?
36:11It does this
36:12Does the roller do that?
36:13Yeah
36:15So
36:15Like this, like this, like this
36:17Wave like that
36:17That's the answer.
36:19What do they give?
36:20And do you understand?
36:21That buzzing sound?
36:22Yes, I understand the buzzing
36:23Because...
36:24And how does he understand the buzzing?
36:25The buzzing is because
36:26We do...
36:28Me 25 years ago
36:30And 4 years ago
36:31I'm with Dante.
36:32And Dante gives us that lesson.
36:35Any explanation for the buzzing?
36:36Yeah
36:36Yeah
36:38And what does the buzzing mean?
36:40What did you hear?
36:41And what did they answer me?
36:42That I didn't speak
36:44That she wasn't alone
36:45That they are...
36:46They are there
37:14And how long do we have to wait, more or less?
37:16One night
37:17Until they appear
37:18Okay, here
37:20It's more difficult
37:21But if he goes to Córdoba
37:23With a group
37:24May it be spiritual
37:26Let them pray
37:27Let them do
37:28The OM
37:31And the OM
37:31What needs to be done?
37:32Yeah
37:32It's a mantra
37:35This...
37:37He sees them
37:38But we must pray
37:40This morning
37:41Like every day
37:43I pray 3 rosaries
37:44That's 150 Hail Marys
37:48Yeah
37:48So that?
37:50That's for...
37:51It's already...
37:52It's part of life now
37:54No, you're not in another one anymore.
37:57Like before, for example, right?
37:59One changes
38:00And grow spiritually
38:02And the OM
38:03How should it be done?
38:04So that the OMs may come?
38:05The OM?
38:06Yeah
38:07Well
38:09That...
38:09Okay, should I do it?
38:12This...
38:13You breathe, right?
38:14Thus
38:21I find myself
38:22Forehead
38:24To a being
38:252 meters high
38:27This being is standing still
38:30Then
38:32Look at them one by one.
38:35It does this
38:35I thought I was counting them
38:38Then I thought I was energizing them
38:41Giving it warmth
38:42Which for me was giving them warmth
38:45And were you the only person who saw him?
38:47Now I'll tell you
38:48In that...
38:49Then
38:52This...
38:53I'm still standing
38:54I can't...
38:55I couldn't manage it
38:56Fold the blanket in four
38:59There's a cassette
39:01Of the...
39:02Hail Mary
39:03Dante guided the meditation
39:06And he hadn't even begun to speak
39:09So
39:09I had to be very quiet.
39:12Why bother?
39:14Because it is...
39:15The music is such...
39:17It's for harmonization
39:19To the whole group
39:20There were many of us.
39:23Then I was silent.
39:25I look at this being
39:27And I ask him
39:28Why is it stopped?
39:30Why is it stopped?
39:31Why is it stopped?
39:33And why was he standing still?
39:34And why didn't he belong to the...
39:38To meditate...
39:39To the...
39:39To meditation?
39:42No...
39:42He came to...
39:44I don't know what he came for
39:46Well
39:46It doesn't move its mouth
39:48And he never answered me.
39:50And why doesn't he sit down?
39:52And why doesn't he sit down?
39:53So when
39:54He finishes looking at them one by one.
39:57He looks at me again
39:59He tells me
39:59Is everything all right
40:00Sit down
40:01I sit down, I look around
40:04It's all dark
40:05Did he say that to her?
40:07Yes, no, no
40:08I feel...
40:10That's telepathic.
40:11How is he telepathic?
40:13I did telepathy
40:14In...
40:15In it...
40:16In the fupé with Dante
40:18So I know what talking is.
40:20Listen telepathically
40:21I heard
40:22How is it that...
40:24How do you hear telepathically?
40:26I can explain it in my own words.
40:27It's the last thing left between here and here
40:30And it remains
40:31This...
40:33Everything is there...
40:33Is everything all right
40:34Sit down
40:35Did he say it to her in Spanish?
40:38Yeah
40:38Yeah
40:40In Spanish
40:41If I don't know how to speak English
40:44Then he told me
40:45Yeah
40:45Me...
40:46I look a little bit
40:47I turn my body around
40:49Nothing else
40:49I'm standing still
40:50I turn around like this
40:51To see
40:52The...
40:53My chair
40:54EITHER...
40:54My chair
40:56AND...
40:56And me...
40:57I face it again
40:59To continue the conversation
41:00AND...
41:01And he wasn't there.
41:01He disappeared
41:03How did you ask him the questions?
41:06Why is it stopped?
41:07Why is it...
41:08Why is it stopped?
41:09Why is it stopped?
41:10And why was he talking like that?
41:12Because...
41:13Dante
41:13It can't be done
41:16To disturb a meditation
41:18AND...
41:19But it came from the extraterrestrial.
41:21No
41:22This...
41:23You cannot disturb
41:24Even if the alien comes
41:26Meditation cannot be interrupted
41:27No
41:28Meditation is not
41:29Dante sits down
41:30And they're all there.
41:32This is the position
41:33They're wearing hoods
41:35The blankets
41:35The ponchos
41:36They're all like this
41:38Hey...
41:39Hey...
41:39If I speak loudly
41:41Dante
41:42This is laughable
41:44But it's true
41:44Dante has a flashlight like that
41:47And it lights up the face
41:48AND...
41:49Quietly
41:50Don't disturb
41:52And it shouldn't be done
41:54That's true
41:54So, um...
41:57Ah...
41:58All the people
41:59Not all
42:00One said she was cold
42:02The others say
42:02That...
42:04Hey...
42:04They energized
42:05That...
42:06They warmed up.
42:07That they had a lot
42:08They were hot
42:10Do you think, Maria, that one day they're going to take you away?
42:13No, but I would like to
42:15No...
42:16I don't think they'll take me.
42:17But I would like to
42:19I feel...
42:21I'm ready
42:22I wouldn't be afraid.
42:25I did breathing exercises in the FUPED
42:28Because?
42:29Because we Argentinians
42:30EITHER...
42:31Or planet Earth doesn't know how to breathe
42:33Breathe through your mouth
42:35Breathe as best you can
42:36But he doesn't know
42:37No...
42:38We don't know, eh
42:39Now I've learned
42:41Otherwise, I can't get OM to work.
42:42I had to...
42:43I studied for that
42:45With Mrs. Dante
42:46And did you study that so you could travel?
42:50Well, that falls under the study of a UFO researcher
42:56And if they need it...
42:58We need to travel
42:59We are ready
43:01And where would you like to go?
43:02I would like to go to a planet
43:04In other words, the planet Venus
43:06EITHER...
43:07Or wherever they want...
43:08But on Venus, it seems there's nobody.
43:11Yes, there are
43:11Yeah?
43:13Yeah
43:13I'd be surprised here
43:15To your home
43:15At your feet
43:16To her daughter
43:18No, because there's a lot of...
43:22Already from planet Earth up
43:24Oh, really?
43:25Clear
43:25It wouldn't be the first time.
43:27And that's where they prepare us for that.
43:31So that?
43:32To live up high
43:33They are preparing us
43:34First they open the eighth gland here
43:38And then, if our third eye is very closed...
43:42Well, they're preparing us
43:43They help us
43:44But that...
43:46That's something else entirely.
44:02There were no UFOs that night.
44:06All those people
44:08They waited in places marked by their cosmic maps
44:11The arrival of beings from the sky
44:14Maybe
44:15For a moment
44:16Their problems were crushed
44:17By the light of another world
44:21They surely felt
44:22The dark certainty
44:23To have it in their hands
44:24A truth that everyone else
44:25For some reason
44:26They are denied
44:29They were looking for proof
44:30That it could withstand wear and tear
44:31Of so many other illusions
44:33Everything could disappoint
44:34Except for the sky
45:02Except for the sky
45:07First they open up here for us
45:08And after having
45:23From the light of another world
45:31And after having
45:33Neither
45:33Neither
45:46Thanks for watching the video.
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