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00:00Former Ohio State, former NFL defensive back Tyvus Powell
00:04to talk about the NFL draft, to talk about the Cleveland Guardians.
00:09And if he got some comments on the Cavaliers, we'll take him too.
00:12By the way, before we get to talking to him about, you know,
00:14his take about Jeremiah Love, I don't know if you know this or not,
00:19but Tyvus really believes in his heart that Stephen Kwan is going to hit
00:2320 home runs this year.
00:2520?
00:2520.
00:2620.
00:27How many did he hit last year?
00:29I don't know, but this is Tyvus' belief, and we got to let him have it.
00:34And if he hits 20, they're going to have to pay him.
00:36We're going to bring him in, Tyvus.
00:37Did I get that right?
00:39That's correct.
00:41I don't see why.
00:42I don't know why Spencer up there acting like, oh, that's out of those words.
00:47It wasn't even 20.
00:48That's right.
00:49The most he's ever hit is 14, and that was two years ago.
00:54I don't know.
00:54It seems a little steep for Kwan, that's all.
00:56Well, let me ask you this.
00:58Are you, do you, you do understand that if you have,
01:02when it's time to get paid, people perform their best.
01:06You do some things that you never thought you could do.
01:09Well, that's why I said, Tyvus, I was like, if he hits 20,
01:11they're going to have to pay him.
01:13Like, they're going to have to be like, all right, we got,
01:14you got your contract.
01:16We're good.
01:17They're not going to pay him, but he will get paid.
01:19I don't know if he'll be by the guard.
01:22He will get paid.
01:24So, Ty, earlier in the show, we had Josh Edwards of CBS Sports on,
01:28and, you know, he said to us that if Jeremiah Love was on the board at six,
01:32he would absolutely hate that to be the pick for the Cleveland Browns.
01:36And you said earlier this week on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show,
01:39you see it differently, that if Jeremiah Love was available at six,
01:43the Browns absolutely had to take him.
01:46Talk to us about why you feel that way and how you see that playing out
01:50if he was available at six.
01:53Well, a lot of people would say that Jeremiah Love is the best player
01:56in this draft, right?
01:57Jeremiah Love is a generational talent.
01:59Jeremiah Love is a blue chipper, right?
02:01And I think that if you look around the league, everybody, the new thing,
02:05one of the most successful offenses, you typically got two running backs,
02:08two real good ones that everybody respects and fears, right?
02:13And I think when you got a young quarterback like Shador Dillon,
02:16or even if Deshaun decides to go back there,
02:17what's the best way to help them out?
02:19Give them a really good run game.
02:21That makes play action a little bit easier.
02:23It makes the reads a little bit easier because those linebackers have to commit
02:26to trying to stop those running backs.
02:28I think the problem is we've really over, you know,
02:32analyzed what the game of football is.
02:34You know, we're trying to get away from what it is.
02:37Run the ball, play good defense.
02:39The Seattle Seahawks just showed you that.
02:41And, yes, Sam Darnold had a really good season.
02:43JSN had a good season.
02:44When they got in the playoffs and we got to the Super Bowl,
02:46who was the guy that everybody was talking about?
02:48Ken Walker III.
02:50So, therefore, to me, I feel like the run game is very important.
02:54And then when you look at when the Browns were most successful,
02:56a lot of their most successful seasons, Nick Chubb's prime years,
03:01years before that, Jim Brown, you always had that good running back.
03:04And I just think that that just kind of goes with the Browns.
03:07You play good defense, you'll be able to run the ball effectively.
03:09I think that that can ultimately get you, you know, to a championship.
03:13A lot of people like to look at the Seahawks, you know, L.O.B.
03:16They had a great defense with Marshawn Lynch, you know, things like that.
03:20The Jaguars in 2017, they had Leonard Fournette in a great defense.
03:24I just feel like that's more of the Browns' recipe of trying to be successful
03:29is being able to run the ball effectively and play dominant defense.
03:34Tyvus, Andrew Barry always talks about maximizing the value of the picks that he has.
03:40So, I guess from your perspective, when you think about six,
03:43and you just talked about why you'd be in on somebody like Jeremiah Love at that pick,
03:48what do you think maximizing the number six pick looks like?
03:52Are you someone, is there a certain player, whether it's Love or somebody else that you really want,
03:56is it trading back?
03:58What's like the ideal outcome with that pick specifically?
04:03I think trading back and getting more picks is always great.
04:07It just depends on if the person that you want is still going to be there at 10.
04:11You know, the thing is, I wish we could put our roster in a position where we don't have to
04:16draft for need,
04:17but we can draft a best player available because the draft is the only place that you're going to get
04:21generational talent for cheap, you know.
04:24So, I wish that we had, I wish that our receiver room was better because if the receiver room was
04:28better,
04:28I feel like people would be more open to this, you know.
04:31If we had more, if Jerry Judy was the actual Jerry Judy that we thought he would be when he
04:37came out,
04:38like, will we be sitting here clamoring for Cardinal Tate or any of the other receivers?
04:42No, you'd be like, we got a pretty good wide receiver.
04:45We got Harold Fanning.
04:46We could go out and get the best player available, right?
04:49If Jed Wills turned out to be a premier left tackle and we had, and he was a franchise guy,
04:54we'd be talking a different tune.
04:55And I feel like it would just change the way people thought about the draft.
04:59But because we got so many holes, quote-unquote, to fill, it makes people scared to take the best player
05:05available,
05:06the generational talent, the guy who could potentially have the Hall of Fame career.
05:10And I just, I don't like that.
05:12So, to maximize six for me would be, obviously, to look at, I don't know who's going to be there
05:17in six.
05:18I don't know.
05:19I don't think Jeremiah Love, I don't think Caleb Downs will be there at six.
05:24I think you'll be having to look at a Cardinal Tate because that would be the next guy who a
05:28lot of people is high on,
05:29or a Sonny Stiles.
05:30I think that would be kind of the debate that you will have there.
05:34So, I think that they would probably end up taking Cardinal Tate at six.
05:37But if you like the other wide receivers better, a Jordan Tyson or McCon Lemon,
05:42and you think they're going to be there, I would be open for them to trade back from six to
05:47ten or twelve
05:48and still get that guy that they want and get extra picks because there's no doubt about it
05:54that this roster still needs, you know, more talent on it.
05:58So, to that point, that kind of leads me to the next question because I know for a fact
06:02that you have spent several weeks breaking down about ten to twelve potential wide receiver draft prospects,
06:10and I know that you have also spent a lot of time diving into Todd Munkin's offense
06:15and some of those key components.
06:16So, a two-part question for you here.
06:18After you've done your own evaluation, who do you see as the top wide receiver in this 2026 draft class?
06:25And then which of these wide receivers, in your opinion, fits Todd Munkin's offense the best?
06:33I think the top wide receiver in this class is Cardinal Tate.
06:36I am getting, I am more, I'm a little more higher than a lot of people are on Jordan Tyson.
06:41I understand the injury history, but you talk about a guy who's just a great athlete
06:46who can do some special things with the ball in his hands, that the injury thing is what set him
06:51back.
06:51If he didn't have the injuries, I think it wouldn't even be close.
06:53I think Jordan Tyson would be the best guy, best receiver in this draft.
06:59But Cardinal Tate, to me, is the guy.
07:01He's the more dependable guy.
07:02He's the more reliable guy.
07:03He's the guy that's going to have the availability.
07:06He's got the big play-making ability.
07:09And I think that the 4-5 thing, a lot of people are talking about he's slow.
07:13Well, if you go watch his tape, all he does is get behind DB.
07:16So, what tells me that he must run some really, really good routes.
07:19And that, to me, is what makes you successful on the NFL, is being able to run really routes.
07:23Forget the speed.
07:24It's about how can I make this DB think I'm doing one thing, boom, run another route.
07:30Or how fast can I get in and out of my cuts to create that separation.
07:34And if you watch his tape, clearly he does that.
07:37So, to me, that would make him the best receiver in this draft, even without the speed.
07:42How does that fit in Todd Munkin's offense?
07:44I mean, to me, I think that the receiver that really is going to be the guy that I'm interested
07:50to see if he takes the next step is Isaiah Bond.
07:54Because he's coming from a guy where he uses Zay Flowers.
07:57Now, Zay Flowers plays inside and outside, but he does a lot of his work on the inside.
08:01And, you know, Shador had a really good relationship with Isaiah Bond.
08:05You know, he obviously was trying to hit him on a lot of the big plays and stuff like that.
08:09So, I'm interested to see what that looks like now with a Todd Munkin coming from a guy who you
08:15had a guy like Zay Flowers.
08:17Can Isaiah Bond become a guy close to Zay Flowers?
08:21Because if that's the case, that makes this offense even better.
08:25You know, hopefully Jerry Judy can become the guy that we all pictured he'd be.
08:29You got Harold Fannin.
08:29Now you put Isaiah Bond in there.
08:31Like, to me, that could take this offense to the next level.
08:34So, yeah, I'm interested to see the development of Isaiah Bond this upcoming season.
08:41Tyvus Powell joining us on the Make It Right Call, Kyle Wright Hotline.
08:44Tyvus, there's been so much variance on Ty Simpson as a prospect and where he could potentially end up going.
08:51We know quarterbacks tend to always be overdrafted to a degree because it's just such an important position.
08:57If the Browns truly were interested in Ty Simpson, which we don't know the full scope of how interested they
09:04are just yet,
09:06where would you be comfortable with them actually selecting him as a potential quarterback?
09:12I think the 24 or the second round.
09:14I mean, I think it'll be fine there.
09:17I just, I think he's one of those guys that, and I think a lot of the league would agree,
09:23he needs to sit a year.
09:24You know, and I say, it's funny because I feel like the Raiders is trying to do the same thing
09:28with Fernando Mendoza.
09:29You know, signing a Kirk Cousins.
09:31You know, it's one of those things that they're putting themselves in a position that you don't have to play
09:35him right away.
09:36Like, if Fernando ain't ready to play week one, we're good with Kirk Cousins.
09:40And I think if you get Ty Simpson with the Browns, there'll be a lot of pressure to get him
09:45to play right away.
09:46But I think that he needs to sit a while.
09:48He needs to learn the game on the NFL level and stuff like that.
09:51Because there's no doubt he's got the ability to make some plays in the NFL, but due to the fact
09:56that he hasn't played a lot, you know, he played, he started one year.
09:59And in that one year, it was moments where I thought he was probably the Heisman winner.
10:04And then in the same season, he went to a guy that, why is he even on the field?
10:09Why ain't the backup in?
10:10So, to me, he's got a lot to learn.
10:12He's got a lot of room to grow.
10:14He's not a guy that I would play right away.
10:17I wouldn't start him year one.
10:18I would definitely try to give him the Patrick Mahomes route where he sits an entire season before I put
10:23him out there so he can understand the ins and outs of the game.
10:26But if the Browns wanted to select him and they truly valued him and felt that, you know, he's more
10:30of the first eight games of his last year's season, his college season, if that's who they think he is
10:36and they can get that for 17-plus games, you know, then you take that guy in the first round.
10:42But if you think that there's a lot to work with, that's more of a project, that's a second round
10:46or later type of guy.
10:49Tyvus, when you look at this upcoming draft and you look at, you know, a lot of people, or some
10:55people, should I say, still are uneasy when it comes to Andrew Barry.
11:00They still don't trust Andrew Barry to acquire the right players, draft the right players to turn this thing around.
11:06I thought A.B. had a phenomenal offseason last year when you talk about the draft and you talk about
11:11the free agents he acquired.
11:13Where are you in real time with Andrew Barry as a general manager of this football team?
11:21I think you said we're at a point where we're going to find out.
11:24I think today, I think a lot of the things have to do with, you know, him and Kevin being
11:31in lockstep and then you had a Paul DeBodesta in the building.
11:35I think that Andrew dealt with a lot.
11:37I think he dealt with, you know, Jimmy giving his input, Paul giving his input, and Kevin giving his input.
11:42I think we're at a point now where the power structure has changed.
11:46It's Jimmy and A.B., you know what I'm saying?
11:48So, to me, I feel like A.B. is getting more leash.
11:53Do your thing.
11:54You hit on last year's draft.
11:56Do your thing.
11:56We're going to trust you.
11:57We got Kevin's not in the building.
11:59You can consult with, you know, with the new coach, Tom Munkin.
12:03But for you, you are, we need to know what you can do because, obviously, this is probably a big
12:09year for him as far as job security.
12:12He hits again, you know, all right, you're here long term.
12:15You're the answer.
12:16You figure things out.
12:17But if you miss, you know, maybe it's going to open up that conversation in the offseason.
12:22Oh, you had two first-round picks.
12:24You missed on those guys.
12:25Are you the guy?
12:26So, you're more so the guy that we've seen prior to last year's draft than actually being the guy from
12:32last year's draft developing and acquiring talent and things like that.
12:36So, to me, I'm at a point where I just need to see it.
12:40I need to see it.
12:40I think that there's no excuses left.
12:42I think that Jimmy has done a great job coming out saying, hey, the reason we kept A.B. is
12:47because he acquired Tyson Campbell and Malik Collins and Andre Smith, and he hit on all the rookies and all
12:53of those things.
12:54So, okay, you got the owner saying that, giving you that vote of confidence.
12:59Do it again.
13:00Let's see.
13:01This is truly who you are.
13:02Because if you do it again, now you're putting the Browns in a perfect situation to actually be one of
13:07those teams competing for Super Bowls.
13:09So, I'm giving A.B. the benefit of the doubt right now.
13:13I'm going to say that he's more so who last year's draft than prior to.
13:20Tyvus, when we had Josh Edwards on earlier, he kind of mentioned, because we noticed in his seven-round mock
13:26draft, that he didn't have the Browns taking even a developmental quarterback.
13:29We know what Andrew Barry said at the annual meetings this week, that if they did add a quarterback to
13:35the room, it would probably skew younger.
13:37The only other way to really do that is probably trading for one.
13:40And so, Josh brought up that he kind of envisions maybe the Browns would do something like that.
13:46And he threw out the names Anthony Richardson, maybe Will Levis even as an option.
13:50Two guys who are former first-round picks, and you're sort of banking on some potential there.
13:55How would you feel if the Browns added, I don't know, either of those guys or somebody who's already in
14:00the NFL to this group and added them to the competition?
14:03And what do you think that would kind of look like?
14:06It wouldn't bother me.
14:08I mean, I'm always here for competition.
14:09I think that that makes everybody better.
14:11It would be interesting to see how it would affect Deshaun Watson.
14:14I think that, to me, if you bring in a veteran quarterback, okay, so now you're telling me Deshaun Watson
14:19is potentially going to be your emergency third guy?
14:22Because, you know, why would you need to do that?
14:24Or are you getting rid of Shadour and Dylan?
14:26Like, what are you doing with that?
14:28So, to me, it would raise my eye on that.
14:31But, like I said, competition-wise, you want to bring a Will Levis or Anthony Richardson in here and compete
14:38with Deshaun and Shadour?
14:40That's fine with me.
14:42I don't have no problem with that.
14:44I'd be interested to see, because they'll probably carry three.
14:47I'm interested to see how they will go about doing that.
14:50You know, are you going to have three guys on the roster?
14:53Are you going to have two guys and then have a practice squad guy serve as the emergency?
14:58But, like, that, to me, it's a lot going on there.
15:01So, I think that can kind of make it kind of tricky.
15:05Typhus, I'll get you out of here on a baseball question.
15:08You know, about six months ago, you had the perfect analogy to the Cleveland Guardians and how they relate to
15:17the city of Cleveland.
15:18What's your early thoughts on Chase DeLaure?
15:23That man, he's box office, ain't he?
15:26He is.
15:26He's made this team so exciting right now to root for.
15:32And, you know, you just, you hear about a guy, I think he fits the city of Cleveland perfectly if
15:37you just look at his story.
15:39You know, this is a guy who was drafted, was a highly touted guy coming out, and everybody, he got
15:46all the hype.
15:47And every time his moment was about to come, some adversity hit.
15:51Boom, he got hit with an injury.
15:52Boom, he got hit with an injury.
15:54But the thing that I respect and admire about him is, you know, a lot of people, you get them
15:58injuries, you know,
16:00you always question, am I ever going to be the same?
16:02And then for it to happen as many times as it did, it's like, you right there, hey, you about
16:06to go to the majors.
16:07You about to hit it, and boom, something happens.
16:10It's like, that can mess with your mind, your psyche.
16:12You know, you could be like, man, it's not just for me.
16:14And you could fold your cards.
16:15And this is a guy who continues to keep pushing and pushing, and he finally gets his moment.
16:20And you see that there is no stage too bright for him, no stage too big for him.
16:25He's taking in full advantage of this opportunity, pretty much carrying the team.
16:30I mean, he's hit so many home runs.
16:33I mean, he had, like, two home runs this year that's, like, actually led to them winning the game.
16:38So, to me, you know, he's made this whole year fun.
16:41It takes the pressure off of a Jose.
16:43It takes the pressure off of Steven Kwan, you know, all these – Manzardo.
16:48Like, we're not even worried about, like, they're not even performing at their best right now.
16:53I know Jose hit a home run a couple days ago.
16:55But, you know, these guys aren't even performing at their best right now.
16:58But it kind of takes the pressure off of those star guys, you know, for them to get acclimated with
17:03the season
17:04and catch their groove.
17:05He's like, this young dude's like, hey, I got you right now.
17:08You know what I'm saying?
17:08If all of us start clicking at the same time, like, that to me is what the fans have been
17:13waiting on.
17:14We've been talking about getting bats and sticks in the lineup, and it's so exciting to see a guy just
17:19come on
17:19and just light it up like he's doing.
17:21So, you know, it makes me really look at Travis Bozano like, hey, now, hey, it's almost your turn.
17:28He's setting the bar pretty high for you.
17:32But I love what he's doing right now.
17:34I love the fact that the Guardians is playing really well right now.
17:37Let's just hope that they can continue to carry this momentum and, you know, make something really happen this post
17:41–
17:41make it to the playoffs and make something happen in the postseason.
17:44There it is, Ty, man.
17:45We appreciate your time this morning.
17:46It's going to be great for the rest of the day.
17:47Thanks, Tyvus.
17:48Y'all as well.
17:49Appreciate y'all.
17:50Go Bucs.
17:50Go Browns.
17:51Go Guards.
17:52Go Cavs.
17:53There it is.
17:54Tyvus Powell on the Make It Right Call Call Right Hotline.
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