La Linea D'ombra 01.01_ Stevanin - Il killer delle prostitute
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00:00:19Thank you all
00:00:50Thank you all
00:01:00When I reached my fourth year my mother was pregnant again.
00:01:04A high-risk pregnancy
00:01:07I played and socialized with everyone, invariably, male and female, children or adults.
00:01:12Then, in third grade, I was sent to a boarding school run by nuns.
00:01:17I don't know if it was a good thing, but it was probably from this moment that my family changed.
00:01:24My family was me
00:01:26In this shelter there was a death and my class and I were taken to what had been
00:01:31set up as a chapel of rest
00:01:34I remember being shocked to feel that skin so cold
00:01:42These are the words of Gianfranco Stevanin, a serial killer who killed from 1989 to 1994
00:01:49He hit six prostitutes
00:01:51For him the exact definition is that of a murderer for lust
00:01:55Robert Ressler, founder of the FBI's Behavioral Sciences Unit
00:01:59It has another term, that of social chameleon
00:02:02An unsuspecting person, a person who no one would ever imagine to be a serial killer.
00:02:06I had the opportunity to meet Gianfranco Stevanin on a couple of occasions
00:02:12We did not talk in detail, but to our questions
00:02:19He has always been available to collaborate, we have never had any problems
00:02:28The meeting with Stevanin was born because there was a fundamental interest
00:02:34Which is to try to understand the personality of this subject, which is not just any subject.
00:02:41It made me understand what resignation and patience mean.
00:02:44The serial killer is ego-syntonic and therefore that behavior is fine for him.
00:02:49He abstains from prison because he lacks raw materials
00:02:53The children, the women
00:02:56And as he comes out, he finds children and women again and starts again
00:02:59Nature can do good or evil
00:03:02Sometimes we say when faced with the desperation of a person who has seen a loved one murdered
00:03:10Not at all, just a delirium, right?
00:03:12And he despairs
00:03:14And I try to make this person understand
00:03:16Look, it's like she's walking on a meadow and a lightning strike comes.
00:03:22Kill her
00:03:22Who is he trying to blame?
00:03:32To commit a crime you essentially have to not realize
00:03:36Because it's not easy to kill
00:03:38It's not easy at all
00:03:41It's a very difficult thing
00:03:43And I'm not just saying this for those who commit crimes.
00:03:46I also say this for the soldiers who go to war
00:03:48Wars have always been fought by drugging soldiers.
00:03:52Why is it hard to kill?
00:03:54And when you then take a killing practice
00:03:58As in the case of belligerents, of the military who wage wars
00:04:03These then return substantially psychologically disturbed.
00:04:06And they end up committing suicide or taking drugs
00:04:10Or in any case they become substantially asocial beings
00:04:14Gianfranco Stevani really seems like a quiet country boy
00:04:18Discreet, always kind to everyone
00:04:20An unsuspected
00:04:21Even though there are a couple of robberies with a toy gun in his past
00:04:25A manslaughter, a bad accident, hits and kills a woman on a bicycle
00:04:30And then one day he is stopped in his car
00:04:33Strange objects were found in the trunk
00:04:36A fake license plate, power to be a handle, scissors, cameras, shoelaces
00:04:41But for everyone these are just pranks, things that happen
00:04:44His mother, omnipresent and protective
00:04:46It reassures him and justifies him against everyone and everything
00:04:49And finally an event, a still incident
00:04:52At 16, Stefanin fell and hit his head violently
00:04:58A fact that influenced my entire subsequent life
00:05:01One of the consequences of that accident was epilepsy.
00:05:05I felt changed
00:05:07I was thinking differently
00:05:09I was behaving differently
00:05:11My sexuality had also changed
00:05:14Then one night
00:05:16The night between November 15 and 16, 1994
00:05:21In Vicenza
00:05:22The evening of November 15, 1994
00:05:25Where I met the girl who got me arrested
00:05:29I was feeling sicker than usual
00:05:30I had seen my father practically dead
00:05:34I was looking for a contact, a friendship
00:05:36A little human warmth
00:05:37I saw a girl who could give me some of the human warmth I was looking for.
00:05:41Even if it means paying for it
00:05:42The suggestion to take some photos would have helped me break the ice.
00:05:46And to escape reality a little
00:05:47The rest is history.
00:05:49The girl, an Austrian prostitute
00:05:52Her name is Gabriella Mosgero
00:05:55Stefanin pulls over to the side of the road
00:05:57He asks her how much she wants
00:05:58He convinces her to get into his car
00:06:01He tells her that he is a professional photographer
00:06:04Looking for hard artistic images
00:06:07The girl accepts
00:06:09He's asking for a million lire
00:06:10On one condition
00:06:12He doesn't want to be recognizable
00:06:14These are the rules of the game
00:06:16Gabriella Mosgero arrives at the manor house
00:06:20That November evening
00:06:22November 16, 1994
00:06:24And Stefanin, already inside the living room
00:06:27He had set up a photographic set
00:06:30The two arrive at Terrazzo
00:06:32The two arrive at Terrazzo
00:06:33Near Legnago
00:06:33In Stefanin's family villa
00:06:35The girl asks to be paid
00:06:37But all he gets is a refusal
00:06:40And the vague promise of being paid
00:06:42From another person
00:06:43That he would buy the photos
00:06:45She then asks to be taken back
00:06:48The moment this girl realizes
00:06:52That behind this person's actions there are negative intentions
00:06:57She tries to rebel
00:06:59And then Stefanin becomes aggressive
00:07:02Stefanin moves away out of bounds
00:07:04Then he retraces his steps screaming
00:07:07If you don't want to do it, let's do it anyway
00:07:09He points a gun at her
00:07:11He makes her undress
00:07:12He forces her to wear a blue jumpsuit
00:07:15He makes her wear a necklace of fake turquoises
00:07:17He orders her to sit on his lap
00:07:20Take some photos with the selfie stick
00:07:23At some point this girl realizes
00:07:26That the only way out
00:07:28It could be that of pretending to be submissive to Gianfranco Stefanin
00:07:33And then simulate this submission
00:07:36He even agrees to sexual intercourse
00:07:39He takes it all the way
00:07:40The girl is terrified
00:07:43Alone
00:07:43In a life lost in nothingness
00:07:45No one can hear her screams
00:07:48No one can help her
00:07:50Yet he manages to take his time
00:07:52He says he has some savings
00:07:54Hidden in his home in Vicenza
00:07:57Offers 25 million lire
00:07:59In exchange for his freedom
00:08:01She asks to go to the bathroom
00:08:03He tries to escape in vain
00:08:05But the window is blocked
00:08:07Stefanin rushes to the bathroom
00:08:09Drag the girl out
00:08:11The door to the bedroom
00:08:13It's an unequal fight
00:08:16Stefanin is a big, strong man
00:08:18She is forced to suffer
00:08:21It hits her
00:08:22Stefanin rapes Gabriella Musger
00:08:25In his mother's room
00:08:29When it's all over
00:08:30The girl gets dressed
00:08:32She convinces him to walk her home
00:08:35His freedom in exchange for 25 million
00:08:39He accepts
00:08:40They get into the car
00:08:42She accompanies him throughout the journey
00:08:45Towards Vicenza
00:08:46But when we reach the toll booth
00:08:47Take advantage of a moment of distraction from Stefanin
00:08:51She throws herself out of the car
00:08:53He runs towards a police car.
00:08:55The officers search the car
00:08:58They find the gun
00:08:59They arrest him
00:09:00And Gabriella Musger reports the violence she suffered
00:09:03It all starts like this
00:09:04On the night between November 15th and 16th
00:09:08From 1994
00:09:10This is how Gianfranco Stefanin is unmasked
00:09:13He is exposed thanks to the tenacity of this girl
00:09:17Thanks to the courage she finds
00:09:19And so this scenario
00:09:23Let's say
00:09:24This scene
00:09:25Opens
00:09:26Raise the curtain
00:09:27On what will then be defined
00:09:29The horrors of the terrace
00:09:31The Horrors of the Monster
00:09:32Gianfranco Stefanin is tried and sentenced
00:09:36Three years and four months
00:09:38Sexual violence
00:09:39Kidnapping
00:09:40Attempted extortion
00:09:42Then on July 3, 1995
00:09:46Stefanin is about to leave prison
00:09:50It's a Monday morning
00:09:52A farmhand is laying a ditch inside the Stefanin property
00:09:57His face gets caught in something strange
00:10:00A jute sack
00:10:02Inside another bag
00:10:04And in this bag
00:10:05The trunk of a human body
00:10:09It is stated in the Carabinieri report
00:10:12A rib cage
00:10:13Extended portion of the sacred
00:10:15Extended portion of ileum
00:10:17Ischio and pub
00:10:18A woman's body
00:10:21Stefanin is held in prison
00:10:24Searches begin in his homes
00:10:27The villa at Via Torrano 41 in Terrazzo
00:10:30The old farmhouse on Via Brazzetto
00:10:32Investigators seize
00:10:34Hundreds of pornographic magazines and photographs
00:10:37Bags full of public feet
00:10:40The Carabinieri also found the documents of two women
00:10:43Iliana Pavlovich
00:10:4525-year-old Serbian waitress
00:10:47Of which there has been no news since August 1994
00:10:51Claudia Puleio
00:10:5329 years old
00:10:54Drug addict from Regnago
00:10:56Disappeared on January 15 of the same year
00:10:59The searches continue
00:11:02Letters addressed to girlfriends and erotic playmates
00:11:06Girls' profiles with measurements and performances indicated
00:11:09Pornographic magazines mixed with Padre Pio holy cards
00:11:15For a serial killer, keeping trophies and souvenirs of the victim is a fundamental activity
00:11:20And the relationship between his religiosity and his crimes should not surprise us either.
00:11:25Instead, it tells us a lot about his strange morality.
00:11:29The fetishism that consists in preserving objects
00:11:32We see it often in these multiple murders that take objects
00:11:37They keep them, they have collections
00:11:40It serves to maintain control over people forever
00:11:46Fetishism is the part for the whole
00:11:50I'm keeping this, since I can't keep this corpse forever
00:11:55I keep a part and I always will and it will always be mine
00:12:10Fetishism has a protective value
00:12:14We see it very well in children
00:12:16Who go to bed with their little doll
00:12:21Absolutely irreplaceable
00:12:22So who should replace it with another?
00:12:26Creepy scenes happen
00:12:29So the fetish is a protective configuration
00:12:33Through which I feel safe
00:12:35From the unpredictable, the threatening and the looming
00:12:39Primitive humanity has always advanced through fetishes.
00:12:43But the fetishism isn't over
00:12:45And he didn't just express himself in the sexual sphere.
00:12:48The meaning of which is this
00:12:50The woman scares me so much
00:12:53That I cling to these fetishes
00:12:55Which can be a whip
00:12:57It could be a stocking holder
00:12:59And we also find this configuration in many fields
00:13:03Even in religious ones
00:13:05Let's think about all the little pictures that one carries in one's wallet.
00:13:09The images of Padre Pio
00:13:10They are protective configurations
00:13:12Fetish is not a tragic thing
00:13:15It is a basic form of defense against the unpredictable
00:13:18Searches at Stefanin's homes have ended.
00:13:23Maria Grazia Omboni enters the scene
00:13:25The public prosecutor of Padua
00:13:27He works in collaboration with the Carabinieri
00:13:30The first to arrive at the site of the findings
00:13:34Stefanin, now under investigation for voluntary homicide
00:13:37And concealment of a corpse
00:13:39He was transferred to the maximum security prison of Verona-Montorio
00:13:44Meanwhile the bulldozers arrive on the terrace
00:13:47November 12, 1995
00:13:50A new macabre scenario comes to light
00:13:54Land on the Stefanin family farm
00:13:57The Carabinieri are digging
00:13:58And at 80 centimeters deep
00:14:01They found the body of a young woman bent in half
00:14:05Wrapped in a sheet
00:14:06DNA evidence establishes that the girl is Biljana Pavlovich
00:14:11His documents were found in Stefanin's house
00:14:15Our involvement in the Stefanin case
00:14:19It started in 1995
00:14:22And it ended with the latest findings in 1997
00:14:27That morning we had a surprise there
00:14:31We found a package
00:14:35About 10 meters from the tamaio
00:14:38Buried about a meter underground
00:14:41A nylon casing
00:14:45We opened it
00:14:46And we found a whole body
00:14:50Now in the process of decomposing
00:14:53This corpse then from the autopsy examination
00:14:56It was found to belong to Pavlovich Biljana
00:15:01Gianfranco Stefanin likes extreme sex
00:15:04For him, transgression is never enough
00:15:06Torture
00:15:07And finally during sexual intercourse
00:15:09Kills
00:15:10A serial killer like Gianfranco Stefanin
00:15:12It represents the perfect combination of sex and death
00:15:16The case of Biljana Pavlovich had this very peculiar feature
00:15:25The body was substantially well preserved
00:15:29This significant harm existed
00:15:34That from the perineal region
00:15:37Let's say from the vaginal region
00:15:40It arrived, it crossed the iliac area
00:15:48This continuous solution
00:15:52Big solution of continuity
00:15:54It caused the penetration of putrefactive bacteria
00:16:00Therefore the perineal region of this body
00:16:06It was destroyed
00:16:08We cannot say whether the uterus had been removed.
00:16:12Or simply went post mortem to meet destruction
00:16:18Certainly the uterus is normally one of the structures
00:16:22Which are preserved longer in the corpse
00:16:25And in this case we didn't find it
00:16:28December 1, 1995
00:16:31A third body comes to light
00:16:33This one is also wrapped in nylon
00:16:38The body is mummified
00:16:40Between one layer of film and another
00:16:42There are newspaper sheets
00:16:44The name of the victim
00:16:46Claudia Puleio
00:16:47His documents too
00:16:49They were found in the Stevanin house
00:16:55A victim's body can tell a lot to an experienced investigator.
00:16:59There may be signs of mutilation
00:17:01Of fragmentation
00:17:02This can happen because the killer has a sadistic and perverse need to cut the flesh.
00:17:07Or everything can be instrumental
00:17:10The dismantling can only serve to get rid of a corpse
00:17:13In the case of Puleio the cause of death has been hypothesized
00:17:20That of a suffocation
00:17:24Puleio also had a bag on her head
00:17:27And this burdon being highlightable for the sake of body conservation
00:17:37Direct signs of asphyxia
00:17:40This was certainly a very important clue towards asphyxiation death.
00:17:47Between December 1995 and June 1996
00:17:51A fierce battle of nerves begins between Maria Grazia Omboni and Gianfranco Stevanin
00:17:57Meetings, interviews, interrogations
00:18:01More and more malignant details continue to emerge.
00:18:04More than 7,000 shots from the seized photos
00:18:07It emerges that at least two other girls were killed during sadistic and perverse sexual acts
00:18:14One of the two is identified
00:18:16She is an Austrian prostitute
00:18:18Roswitha Dallassinger
00:18:20She has been photographed many times
00:18:22The murders contested in Stevanin
00:18:24Now there are five
00:18:25Two alleged and three confirmed
00:18:28Gianfranco Stevanin's Obsession with Sex
00:18:32It is documented by photos, magazines, objects
00:18:36Stevanin loves to tie up his victims
00:18:39He wants to exercise absolute power over them.
00:18:42Power and terror
00:18:44This makes him strong
00:18:46This makes him vulnerable
00:18:48Stevanin loves taking photographs
00:18:51Photos of special women usceni
00:18:54Keep everything
00:18:55A kind of terrible collection
00:18:57A sort of unbreakable bond
00:19:01With the women he met
00:19:02Who paid for sex
00:19:04Which has, in some cases, killed
00:19:16The photos that investigators found in the farmhouse of horrors
00:19:20They help us understand something about the killer's motive.
00:19:22The women portrayed are handcuffed
00:19:25Tortured
00:19:26It is understood that Gianfranco Stevanin
00:19:28He takes particular pleasure in dominating
00:19:30In checking
00:19:31They are all prostitutes anyway
00:19:33Victims at very high risk
00:19:35We need to think about a fact
00:19:36We are in the early 90s
00:19:38The use of cell phones is not yet widespread
00:19:40It's not like today
00:19:41That when a prostitute walks away with a client
00:19:44She is always in touch with another
00:19:46For Gianfranco Stevanin
00:19:47These victims are easy victims to isolate
00:19:50No one will go looking for them
00:19:51This is such a strategy
00:19:55Very clever
00:19:57Very purposeful
00:20:00Non-EU prostitutes
00:20:03That come and that go
00:20:04Without homeland or part
00:20:06It is more difficult to find the person responsible
00:20:09Because they are nameless and faceless women
00:20:12As you say
00:20:13And so it's easier to find
00:20:15They are guys who are like this
00:20:17In the middle of the street
00:20:19Which have just arrived
00:20:20And so
00:20:21What do I know?
00:20:22Maybe I wasn't even registered
00:20:25The police don't even know they exist
00:20:26They are those people
00:20:28Not people in practice
00:20:29Who do not have their own social identity
00:20:33In practice
00:20:34So it's easier
00:20:34Take these
00:20:36And do on them
00:20:39Atrocities of various kinds
00:20:54The prostitute is one of the favorite objects
00:20:57On the part of serial killers
00:20:59Let's talk about objects from their point of view
00:21:02In the sense that
00:21:02Serial killers treat people
00:21:05As if they were things
00:21:07And what the good Freud said is unleashed
00:21:10He called you fusion of impulses
00:21:12What are sexuality and aggression?
00:21:14These two drives in themselves
00:21:15They are always fused together
00:21:17If a child were to see
00:21:19Father and mother making love
00:21:20They would say
00:21:22He would say that
00:21:23Dad is beating mom
00:21:26In the sense of the image
00:21:27Now these two impulses
00:21:29They are very intertwined with each other.
00:21:31And when unbridled sexuality
00:21:34Objectify the person
00:21:36At that moment aggression is unleashed
00:21:39And it destroys the object of love
00:21:41Which also happens to us
00:21:43On another level
00:21:44Why we shouldn't think
00:21:45That the crimes
00:21:46They are different things
00:21:46From our normal behaviors
00:21:49There is only one difference
00:21:50Of quantity and intensity
00:21:52We also deal with
00:21:53Our objects of love
00:21:54With ambivalence
00:21:55Of love and hate
00:21:56In the same way
00:21:57When you go beyond
00:21:58The feeling
00:21:59We move on to the gesture
00:22:00Then the crime happens
00:22:01In this mode
00:22:05The great desire
00:22:07Of a heart in stone
00:22:09It is to own
00:22:10Endlessly
00:22:12The creature who loves
00:22:14Or to be able to immerse it
00:22:16When he came
00:22:18The time of absence
00:22:19In a dreamless sleep
00:22:22That it may not end
00:22:43Biliana Pavlovich
00:22:4425 years old
00:22:46Camerì in reserve
00:22:48Stefanin approaches her
00:22:50The door to his cottage
00:22:51The two have extreme sex
00:22:53Sexual pleasure
00:22:55It's proportional
00:22:56The risk of death
00:22:57Eros et thanatos
00:22:59Love and Death
00:23:00Sex and Death
00:23:01Or rather
00:23:02Violence and death
00:23:04During sexual intercourse
00:23:06Stefanin
00:23:07Put a plastic bag in it
00:23:09On the girl's head
00:23:11And he suffocates her
00:23:12Already other times
00:23:14We had done it together
00:23:15Extreme sex
00:23:17And that evening
00:23:18At the farmhouse
00:23:18We decide to try
00:23:19Something different
00:23:23I made her undress
00:23:27I tied her hands
00:23:28Behind the back
00:23:32Then I put them on
00:23:33A nylon bag
00:23:34On the head
00:23:35To try
00:23:36A more intense pleasure
00:23:48But once it's finished
00:23:50Of making love
00:23:50I realized she was dead
00:24:02I took the body
00:24:03I folded it in half
00:24:03I wrapped it in a tarpaulin
00:24:05Light blue color
00:24:06I took him to the garden
00:24:07And I left him not far away
00:24:08Inside a hollow
00:24:12Then
00:24:13You cover it with earth
00:24:14With the shovel
00:24:15I burned the clothes
00:24:16And the handbag
00:24:20July 19th
00:24:21August 23, 1996
00:24:23In his own way
00:24:25Stefanin confesses
00:24:27Four crimes
00:24:28Four girls
00:24:29They died for him
00:24:30In the arms
00:24:31Three during
00:24:33Extreme sexual intercourse
00:24:34A
00:24:35For heroin overdose
00:24:37Tells
00:24:38In the form
00:24:39Of deductions
00:24:40Oh flash
00:24:41As if
00:24:42If it were just dreams
00:24:44Of having dissected
00:24:45The corpse
00:24:46Until it is hidden
00:24:47Of having cut
00:24:48Limbs first
00:24:49The legs
00:24:50And then the arms
00:24:51Obtaining two pieces
00:24:53For every limb
00:24:53Then he adds
00:24:55Details
00:24:55A girl
00:24:57He was young
00:24:57And she had beautiful hair
00:24:59Blondes
00:25:00Also remember
00:25:01Of having vomited
00:25:02Once
00:25:03While cutting
00:25:04Of a corpse
00:25:05Because
00:25:06Of a strong smell
00:25:07Of blood
00:25:12The strongest memory
00:25:13What do I have?
00:25:14It's blood
00:25:20The wickedness
00:25:22It's that state
00:25:24Of codes
00:25:25Consciousness
00:25:25So
00:25:26The individual
00:25:27He has nothing left
00:25:28The reason
00:25:29It was suppressed
00:25:30In short
00:25:31They are the instincts
00:25:32That are unleashed
00:25:33After that
00:25:35There is even
00:25:36The taste
00:25:36Of doing evil
00:25:38The operations
00:25:39Let's say
00:25:40How to say
00:25:42Funeral
00:25:43And it produces pleasure
00:25:45It produces pleasure
00:25:47And I believe
00:25:47A part
00:25:48Intense
00:25:49Pleased to meet you
00:25:50Which is part
00:25:51Always
00:25:52In this
00:25:52His
00:25:54Check
00:25:55Total
00:25:55Of the other
00:25:56Until death
00:25:58No?
00:25:58For India
00:25:59Corpse
00:26:00Meaning what
00:26:00Even after death
00:26:02No?
00:26:03He owns
00:26:04Totally
00:26:05This body
00:26:06He buries him
00:26:07And it does
00:26:08Etc
00:26:08So
00:26:09Here it is
00:26:10The sadist
00:26:11Murderer
00:26:11It's not just
00:26:13Sadistic
00:26:13But
00:26:15He also has
00:26:16Another one
00:26:17No?
00:26:18Share
00:26:19Another one too
00:26:19Type of perversion
00:26:21What is the
00:26:22Necrophilia
00:26:23Tells
00:26:24Of a night
00:26:25On the shore
00:26:25Of a wide canal
00:26:26From which he would have
00:26:28The body was thrown away
00:26:29Of not having
00:26:30No memory
00:26:30Of the face
00:26:31Of the girl
00:26:33It's like I
00:26:34If I saw a face
00:26:34Blurred to the max
00:26:37Then
00:26:38At a later time
00:26:40Of having found
00:26:41In a room
00:26:41Of the farmhouse
00:26:42Something wrapped up
00:26:44In nylon
00:26:45Transparent
00:26:46A dark mass
00:26:47That
00:26:49It could have been
00:26:50Of a sheep
00:26:50But also the body
00:26:51Of a person
00:26:52Folded in two
00:26:54And he repeats
00:26:55Obsessively
00:26:58That probably
00:26:59It was a human body
00:27:00It's me
00:27:01Which I wish it were
00:27:02Something else
00:27:02Actually
00:27:05The analyses
00:27:05On that corpse
00:27:06Found on November 12th
00:27:091995
00:27:10They speak
00:27:12Of signs of violence
00:27:13Of terrible mutilations
00:27:18Terrace
00:27:19Small municipality
00:27:20In the lower Veronese area
00:27:22It's the scenario
00:27:23In which
00:27:24Gianfranco Stevanena
00:27:25I acted
00:27:26The physical location
00:27:27Of his murderous madness
00:27:29In these lands
00:27:30Immersed in the fog
00:27:32Where the noises
00:27:33They seem to disappear
00:27:35Into nothingness
00:27:35And the people
00:27:37They are reserved
00:27:38And introverted
00:27:39That one is found
00:27:40Which is defined
00:27:41The House of Horrors
00:27:43The owned houses
00:27:44Of the family
00:27:45Stevanin
00:27:46There are two
00:27:46A
00:27:47The little house
00:27:48Where he lived
00:27:48With parents
00:27:49In Brazzano Street
00:27:5041
00:27:51And an old man
00:27:52Farmhouse
00:27:52Unused
00:27:53In the countryside
00:27:54The little house
00:27:55Of the parents
00:27:55It's a house
00:27:56Country
00:27:57It's far away
00:27:57From other homes
00:27:59Surrounded
00:28:00From plots
00:28:01Wide
00:28:01Of land
00:28:02It's a house
00:28:03Great
00:28:03Dignified
00:28:04But somehow
00:28:06Neglected
00:28:07Mute
00:28:07Testimony
00:28:09Of disinterest
00:28:10Of the whole family
00:28:11For relationships
00:28:13Social
00:28:14Not far away
00:28:15But completely
00:28:15Isolated
00:28:16It stands
00:28:17A farmhouse
00:28:18Like many others
00:28:19Of the used ones
00:28:20For agricultural purposes
00:28:21The farmhouse
00:28:24It's his place
00:28:25By choice
00:28:26Here he can stay alone
00:28:28Take us undisturbed
00:28:30Who wants
00:28:31Here
00:28:32Gianfranco Stefanin
00:28:33He goes aside
00:28:34With the girls
00:28:35That hooks
00:28:36On the street
00:28:37All bodies
00:28:38Found again
00:28:38During the investigations
00:28:40They have emerged
00:28:41From these lands
00:28:45The place
00:28:46Where the serial killer
00:28:47He killed
00:28:48It's a real one
00:28:49Room of Horrors
00:28:50The same horrors
00:28:51Who live
00:28:51The rooms
00:28:52Of his mind
00:28:52A mind
00:28:53Maybe sick
00:28:54Certainly
00:28:55His brain
00:28:56It was damaged
00:28:57From a terrible accident
00:28:58Of the road
00:29:05The legal battle
00:29:07About Stefanin
00:29:08It is essentially
00:29:08A battle of expertise
00:29:10The point
00:29:10It is not to be established
00:29:11Who caused it?
00:29:12Death
00:29:13Some girls
00:29:14But if he did it
00:29:16Intentionally
00:29:16And consciously
00:29:18Or not
00:29:18For gifts
00:29:19Of the defense
00:29:20Cesare Dalmaso
00:29:21Daniele Aceppi
00:29:22And Lino Roetta
00:29:23Stefanin
00:29:24He is not able
00:29:24To intend to want
00:29:26Due to the very serious accident
00:29:28On a motorcycle
00:29:28Happened
00:29:29When he was 16 years old
00:29:30Head trauma
00:29:32Fractures
00:29:32To the orbits
00:29:33And on the forehead
00:29:35He remains in a coma
00:29:36For a month
00:29:36Then
00:29:37After a series
00:29:38Of operations
00:29:39He is saved
00:29:39But it remains
00:29:40An epileptic outbreak
00:29:42What does it get him?
00:29:43Various crises
00:29:44The serious damage
00:29:45Neurological
00:29:46It caused
00:29:47Numerous changes
00:29:48In his life
00:29:49In the sexual sphere
00:29:51In behaviors
00:29:52In relationships
00:29:53With people
00:29:54A slow one
00:29:55But it's obvious
00:29:56Change
00:29:57Of his character
00:29:58Observed
00:29:59From everyone
00:29:59But this event
00:30:02Traumatic
00:30:03He determined
00:30:04A mental illness
00:30:05Stefanin
00:30:07It was or it wasn't
00:30:08Able
00:30:08To understand
00:30:09Want
00:30:10In the moment
00:30:10In which he acted
00:30:11On the one hand
00:30:13The defense lawyers
00:30:14They try
00:30:15The line
00:30:16Of infirmity
00:30:16But in the end
00:30:17About the process
00:30:18Long
00:30:19And it's full
00:30:19Of shots
00:30:20On stage
00:30:20Prevails
00:30:21The thesis
00:30:21Of the prosecution
00:30:22The killer
00:30:23He knew very well
00:30:25What was he doing?
00:30:26And he also knew
00:30:28The consequences
00:30:29Of his gestures
00:30:31But what is it?
00:30:32A psychiatric assessment?
00:30:33In conclusion
00:30:34It's just
00:30:34A technical opinion
00:30:35A technical opinion
00:30:36Motivated
00:30:37That a judge
00:30:38Ask an expert
00:30:39It's about understanding
00:30:40If at the moment
00:30:41Of the fact
00:30:41The moment
00:30:42Of the crime
00:30:42The person
00:30:43Who committed it
00:30:44He was capable
00:30:45To understand
00:30:45Of wanting
00:30:46If he knew
00:30:47What he was doing
00:30:47If he could resist
00:30:49On impulse
00:30:49To kill
00:30:50I take myself as an example
00:30:51As
00:30:52So I'm neutral
00:30:53I can have
00:30:57So many beautiful fantasies
00:30:59Etc
00:30:59I can pass by
00:31:01What do I know?
00:31:02In front of
00:31:03To one
00:31:05Rotisserie
00:31:06Being hungry
00:31:06Or a jewelry store
00:31:07Or I can see
00:31:08Some beautiful ladies
00:31:09On the street
00:31:10And make a series
00:31:11Of thoughts
00:31:12But I could skip it
00:31:13On
00:31:14See
00:31:14Very good
00:31:15But
00:31:16I don't do them
00:31:18I can hold back
00:31:20I can keep myself
00:31:21If I have an injury
00:31:23Of this type
00:31:24With more difficulty
00:31:25I'm holding back
00:31:26But in my opinion
00:31:27Even with this
00:31:29No
00:31:30This instance has been reduced
00:31:32But the possibility
00:31:34Not to pass by
00:31:35From the imagination
00:31:36From above
00:31:37There was still
00:31:38It was possible
00:31:59Man is the mind
00:32:00What should he tell him?
00:32:01And he has to do it to him
00:32:02As a rule
00:32:02The rule
00:32:04It was written
00:32:04In the mind
00:32:05And that mind
00:32:06The mind
00:32:07What rule?
00:32:08The actions
00:32:09They call her
00:32:09The conscience
00:32:11Awareness
00:32:12Of that
00:32:12What are you doing
00:32:13You know what to do
00:32:15That
00:32:15Do you know if it's right?
00:32:16It's not fair
00:32:17If it's good
00:32:17If it's bad
00:32:18There are people
00:32:19Very bad
00:32:20What they commit
00:32:22Terrible things
00:32:22And that they are capable
00:32:24To understand
00:32:24Of wanting
00:32:25Breast
00:32:26I could
00:32:27Taking Hitler
00:32:28And say
00:32:28But he did a lot of things
00:32:30What was it?
00:32:30It wasn't like that
00:32:31Era
00:32:32He was capable
00:32:33To understand
00:32:34Of wanting
00:32:34He has always been
00:32:35Chopped
00:32:36I don't remember
00:32:38Attaching
00:32:39Head trauma
00:32:41AND
00:32:41There
00:32:42The lesion
00:32:44What he had had
00:32:45Of course
00:32:45Serious
00:32:45Around 7-8 years old
00:32:46While he was driving
00:32:47A motorcycle
00:32:48The road greaser
00:32:50He had reported
00:32:51A lesion
00:32:51Temporal front
00:32:53Right
00:32:53Yes
00:32:54With a loss
00:32:57Of substance
00:32:57Of the lobe
00:32:59Front
00:32:59Right
00:33:00And he
00:33:01On this
00:33:03In our opinion
00:33:04He was playing
00:33:05Of amnesias
00:33:06That actually
00:33:07They were very
00:33:09Very
00:33:10Functional
00:33:11To his
00:33:12Defensive strategy
00:33:14In short
00:33:14They were just
00:33:15Used
00:33:15Very good
00:33:16Mental infirmity
00:33:17It's a comfortable one
00:33:18Expression
00:33:19Legal
00:33:20Not to mention
00:33:21What instead
00:33:22It should be said
00:33:23And that is
00:33:24That the judgments
00:33:25Which are fulfilled
00:33:26In court
00:33:27They regulate themselves
00:33:27On the capacity
00:33:28To understand
00:33:29And to want
00:33:30Now
00:33:31In all those
00:33:32What they commit
00:33:33Crimes
00:33:33We see
00:33:34An enormous capacity
00:33:35To understand
00:33:36A great lucidity
00:33:37In the description
00:33:39About what happened
00:33:40A capacity
00:33:41To hold up
00:33:41The comparison
00:33:42So their mind
00:33:44Works
00:33:44They also have
00:33:46A perfect awareness
00:33:47Of voluntariness
00:33:48Of their gesture
00:33:49What's missing
00:33:50They
00:33:50It is the ability
00:33:51To hear
00:33:52Meaning what
00:33:52That emotional resonance
00:33:54Which makes him feel
00:33:55That their gesture
00:33:56It's a gesture
00:33:56Outside the rules
00:33:57It's a serious gesture
00:33:58It's a murderous gesture
00:34:21That their gesture
00:34:47October 6, 1997
00:34:50The process begins
00:34:51The Assize Court
00:34:52From Verona
00:34:53January 28th
00:34:551998
00:34:56The Assize Court
00:34:58First degree
00:34:59Of the court
00:34:59From Verona
00:35:00Condemnation
00:35:00Gianfranco Stefanini
00:35:02To the penalty
00:35:02Of life imprisonment
00:35:03With insulation
00:35:04By day
00:35:05For the first three years
00:35:06Beyond
00:35:06Upon payment
00:35:07Of the penalties
00:35:08Procedural
00:35:09And maintenance
00:35:10In prison
00:35:10During custody
00:35:12He will take care
00:35:13In the name of the Italian people
00:35:15The Assize Court
00:35:16From Verona
00:35:16He pronounced
00:35:17The following sentence
00:35:19In the process
00:35:19Charged
00:35:20By Stefanin Gianfranco
00:35:21Declare
00:35:22Gianfranco Stefanin
00:35:24Responsible
00:35:25Of all crimes
00:35:25Subscribed to him
00:35:26And it is considered
00:35:27The continuation
00:35:28Among the same
00:35:29Considered more serious
00:35:30Each of the crimes
00:35:31Of voluntary homicide
00:35:32He condemns it
00:35:34To the penalty
00:35:34Of life imprisonment
00:35:35With insulation
00:35:37By day
00:35:37For the duration
00:35:38Three years old
00:35:51The second degree trial
00:35:53Of the Assize Court
00:35:54On appeal
00:35:55Of the court
00:35:55Of Venice
00:35:56Overturn the sentence
00:35:58Incapable of wanting
00:36:00Because
00:36:00About the accident
00:36:01The court acquits him
00:36:03For the murders
00:36:03And he condemns him
00:36:04For the concealment
00:36:05Of a corpse
00:36:06And piecemeal
00:36:07Of the bodies
00:36:08Ten years
00:36:09And six months
00:36:10Of internment
00:36:11And immediate hospitalization
00:36:12Of the accused
00:36:13In a hospital
00:36:14Psychiatric
00:36:15Judicial
00:36:16For the duration
00:36:17Minimum
00:36:17Ten years old
00:36:26They called me
00:36:28Crazy
00:36:29But it's not clear yet
00:36:31If madness
00:36:31Whether or not
00:36:32The highest degree
00:36:33Of the intellect
00:36:34If most
00:36:36Of what is glorious
00:36:38If all this
00:36:39That is deep
00:36:40Don't be born
00:36:40From an illness
00:36:41Of the mind
00:36:42From states
00:36:43Of exaltation
00:36:44Of the mind
00:36:45At the expense
00:36:46Of the intellect
00:36:47In general
00:36:55The work
00:36:55Some psychiatric experts
00:36:56It's not for nothing
00:36:57Simple
00:36:58They must determine
00:36:59Exactly
00:37:00The responsibility
00:37:01By Gianfranco
00:37:01Stevanino
00:37:02During the second
00:37:04Level of judgment
00:37:05There are those who claim
00:37:06That he has not had
00:37:07No liability
00:37:08In the murders
00:37:09The accident
00:37:10Of the road
00:37:10He brought it to him
00:37:11A brain injury
00:37:12And then
00:37:12An epileptic syndrome
00:37:14So what?
00:37:14He would have
00:37:15Tortured
00:37:16Selected
00:37:17Killed
00:37:17During a crisis
00:37:19Epileptic
00:37:19To then wake up
00:37:20And hide
00:37:21The corpse
00:37:22So what?
00:37:23Precisely for this reason
00:37:24He is sentenced
00:37:25Only
00:37:25For the concealment
00:37:26Of the corpse
00:37:27In the first degree
00:37:28Really
00:37:29With the case of Stevanino
00:37:30If I remember correctly
00:37:31There was one thing
00:37:32Extraordinary
00:37:33It was considered
00:37:35Unable
00:37:35To understand
00:37:36Of wanting
00:37:37And so
00:37:38It seems to me
00:37:38Not attributable
00:37:39For the murders
00:37:40But then
00:37:41He was a convict
00:37:42At ten years old
00:37:43It seems to me
00:37:43For contempt
00:37:44Of a corpse
00:37:46She understands
00:37:47Which is one thing
00:37:48That doesn't fit together
00:37:49In short
00:37:50No like
00:37:50This is condemned
00:37:52At ten years old
00:37:53Why did he quarter
00:37:54The corpse
00:37:54Of people
00:37:54Who killed
00:37:55When he killed
00:37:57It was okay
00:37:57And when
00:37:58When he was quartering
00:37:59The corpse
00:38:00In conclusion
00:38:01He was doing
00:38:02The anatomist
00:38:03Pathologist
00:38:03At that point
00:38:04No
00:38:05July 14th
00:38:071999
00:38:09Stevanino
00:38:09He is transferred
00:38:10In the hospital
00:38:11Psychiatric
00:38:12Judicial
00:38:13From Montelupo
00:38:14Florentine
00:38:14After being
00:38:15Inmate
00:38:16In prison
00:38:17From Verona
00:38:17Montorio
00:38:18From November 13th
00:38:19From 1995
00:38:21On July 7th
00:38:22From 1999
00:38:25May 2000
00:38:26The prosecutor
00:38:28General
00:38:28Of Venice
00:38:29Augustus Nepi
00:38:30Appeal the sentence
00:38:32By approach
00:38:32Methodological
00:38:34Incorrect
00:38:35March 23, 2001
00:38:38A new sentence
00:38:40Second degree
00:38:41Overturn the precedent
00:38:42Having said
00:38:42Confirms the sentence
00:38:44To life imprisonment
00:38:45With insulation
00:38:45Daytime
00:38:46Of the first degree
00:38:47For effect
00:38:48Of this sentence
00:38:49Stevanino
00:38:49It comes again
00:38:50Transferred
00:38:51From the hospital
00:38:52Psychiatric
00:38:53Judicial
00:38:54To prison
00:38:54To the judicial prison
00:39:01Gianfranco Stevanino
00:39:03A young man
00:39:03Enough
00:39:04Giato
00:39:04Son of
00:39:05Direct accountants
00:39:06With discreet
00:39:07Possessions
00:39:08From the behavior
00:39:09Reserved
00:39:10And that's correct.
00:39:11Lover
00:39:11Of loneliness
00:39:13Deprived
00:39:13Of friendships
00:39:14And with some
00:39:15Love story
00:39:20Note
00:39:21I was never alone
00:39:23I was always with my parents
00:39:25Or with the workers
00:39:26Or play
00:39:27The wash
00:39:27Or I was learning to drive
00:39:29The tractor
00:39:29Which was my passion
00:39:31We also had
00:39:32Some cows
00:39:32We have always had
00:39:34Even poultry
00:39:34From the courtyard
00:39:35We kept it to ourselves
00:39:36He was dad
00:39:37Who killed beasts
00:39:38To eat them
00:39:38I have never done it
00:39:40Because it bothered me
00:39:41The idea of killing
00:39:42The chickens
00:39:42When I saw
00:39:43My father kill
00:39:44Puglia and chickens
00:39:45He didn't give me
00:39:45A good impression
00:39:46I have always been against it
00:39:48On the hunt
00:39:50When mom
00:39:51He had problems
00:39:52With pregnancy
00:39:53I was put
00:39:54In college
00:39:56I had four
00:39:57Five years
00:40:00All serials
00:40:02What I saw
00:40:02They told me
00:40:04This story
00:40:05Meaning what
00:40:06In their life
00:40:06There was
00:40:07One moment
00:40:08Of abandonment
00:40:10From
00:40:11Yes
00:40:12From
00:40:14From
00:40:15Of emptiness
00:40:16Of anguish
00:40:16Of insignificances
00:40:17In short
00:40:18As if they
00:40:18Had they fallen
00:40:20In a black hole
00:40:20From which
00:40:22They didn't know
00:40:23How to get out
00:40:24And what
00:40:25He accompanied himself
00:40:26Of a rage
00:40:27Terrible
00:40:28A rage
00:40:29Narcissistic type
00:40:30A rage
00:40:31Of the injured person
00:40:32In short
00:40:32That I'm offended
00:40:34Of the type
00:40:34Like you too
00:40:35You left me
00:40:36How you leave me
00:40:37I who do a lot
00:40:39That I give so much good
00:40:40And you abandon me
00:40:41In this way
00:40:41Here you are
00:40:42So
00:40:43On the one hand
00:40:45It was born in him
00:40:46This feeling
00:40:48From
00:40:48Then I'm worthless
00:40:49That life
00:40:50It has no meaning
00:40:51It doesn't make sense
00:40:52I don't make sense
00:40:53What
00:40:54Where do I end up?
00:40:56Which
00:40:56My destiny
00:40:58In short
00:40:58No
00:40:58On the other
00:40:59Anger
00:41:01Curse
00:41:02Damned
00:41:03The female figure
00:41:05Damned
00:41:05The woman
00:41:06That
00:41:07Leaving me like this
00:41:09It makes me suffer
00:41:10It makes me feel bad
00:41:11In short
00:41:13He remains in college
00:41:14For all middle schools
00:41:15And the first year
00:41:16Of the high schools
00:41:17Back home
00:41:18Continue your studies
00:41:20At the state school
00:41:21From Legnago
00:41:22But he finds himself forced
00:41:23To interrupt her
00:41:24The severe neurological damage
00:41:27Caused by a fall from a motorbike
00:41:29It induces a slow
00:41:30But it's obvious
00:41:31Character change
00:41:32Due to the numerous
00:41:34Epileptic seizures
00:41:35And severe migraines
00:41:37He is forced to leave school
00:41:38He has lost all ability
00:41:40Of concentration
00:41:41Between 1978
00:41:43And it's 1979
00:41:46He completes a series
00:41:47Of petty crimes
00:41:48In 1983
00:41:50It overwhelms and kills
00:41:52A woman on a bicycle
00:41:53He is sentenced
00:41:54For manslaughter
00:41:55In 1989
00:41:58Seize
00:41:59And he rapes a woman
00:42:01Tells
00:42:01Of having discovered sex
00:42:03At 13 years old
00:42:04With a married girl
00:42:07She used me
00:42:08And I didn't mind
00:42:10I met like this
00:42:11The progression
00:42:12Tenderness
00:42:12Preliminaries
00:42:13Relationship
00:42:14Everything I learned there
00:42:16I never forgot it
00:42:17All in all
00:42:18For what he did
00:42:20And the way he did it
00:42:21I think I have to be
00:42:23Much obliged
00:42:24To this woman
00:42:25Even if his intentions
00:42:26They weren't just educational
00:42:29His love affair
00:42:31Longer and more significant
00:42:32He is between 20 and 25 years old
00:42:35With a girl of her age
00:42:36It tells of an intense
00:42:38And daily sexual activity
00:42:40But the relationship
00:42:41It ends because
00:42:43Of his mother
00:42:45After the end of the story
00:42:47With the girl
00:42:48They become frequent
00:42:49Casual relationships
00:42:50Of just one night
00:42:51Often paid
00:42:53Stefanin
00:42:54He's a man
00:42:55Dissatisfied
00:42:56And frustrated
00:42:57But for everyone
00:42:58Despite it all
00:43:00He's a good man
00:43:01Especially for his mother
00:43:02Key figure
00:43:04In his life
00:43:06The mother was a lady
00:43:08She is a lady
00:43:09Very polite
00:43:12Very good
00:43:13A hard worker
00:43:14A very serious one
00:43:17Very proud
00:43:22A lady
00:43:24She was born in the countryside
00:43:31But in predictor
00:43:34What was it?
00:43:36And I think it still is.
00:43:38Now
00:43:39Mother in all respects
00:43:41Because like a lioness
00:43:43He defended
00:43:45And defends
00:43:46The son
00:43:50Needy
00:43:51He lived
00:43:52In existential checkmate
00:43:53With his mother
00:43:54His mother
00:43:55It was a figure
00:43:56Powerful
00:43:57Powerful
00:44:01Pervasive
00:44:02Cold
00:44:02That surely
00:44:04He managed it
00:44:05For all his
00:44:06Childhood
00:44:07And youth
00:44:08No?
00:44:09He had a great
00:44:10Awe
00:44:11Of the mother
00:44:12I remember that once
00:44:13We had him at the interview
00:44:13We were talking
00:44:14Between us
00:44:14And here comes mommy
00:44:17Then the guard
00:44:18He says
00:44:19Can you stop for a moment?
00:44:20Why did she arrive?
00:44:21Stevanin's love
00:44:22And he goes
00:44:24To do the interview
00:44:25With mom
00:44:25No?
00:44:26And he told me
00:44:26Of course
00:44:27There is no problem
00:44:27He got up
00:44:28And he went to the interview
00:44:29With mom
00:44:30After an hour
00:44:31He's back
00:44:31And everything had changed
00:44:33Of clothes
00:44:34Of dress
00:44:35No?
00:44:35This means
00:44:36That he first
00:44:36He went to see his mother
00:44:38He had gone up to the cell
00:44:39Yes, it was all
00:44:40Washed
00:44:41Clean
00:44:42Tidied up
00:44:42To go and find
00:44:43His mother
00:44:44The meeting had taken place
00:44:45With mom
00:44:45But he had come back to us
00:44:46Without having
00:44:47Put the suit back on
00:44:48He came to us
00:44:48With the suit
00:44:50No?
00:44:50This says a lot
00:44:52What I can say
00:44:53It's that with the mother
00:44:54There was something
00:44:55Sure it wasn't going well
00:44:56In the end the mother
00:44:58No?
00:44:59He did the cleaning
00:45:00The cleaning
00:45:02Of the place
00:45:03Where they came from
00:45:04The corpses were cut up
00:45:05And this
00:45:06We have to say
00:45:07That at least
00:45:08We can say
00:45:09That we are here
00:45:11In front of
00:45:11To people
00:45:12Quite unique
00:45:13My mother
00:45:15It was worse
00:45:16Of a 007
00:45:17It was practically
00:45:18Impossible
00:45:19Throwing my mother off the scent
00:45:20It was worse
00:45:21Of a hound
00:45:22Meaning what
00:45:22Truly
00:45:23It wasn't possible
00:45:24Managing to throw her off track
00:45:25Practically
00:45:27He made me say
00:45:27What in reality
00:45:28I wanted them
00:45:29Keep hidden
00:45:31He could make me say
00:45:32The things I didn't mean to say
00:45:33The crime scene
00:45:35Of a serial killer
00:45:36It can be presented
00:45:37In two ways
00:45:37It could be a scene
00:45:39Disorganized
00:45:40Or organized
00:45:41To each of the two
00:45:42Matches a profile
00:45:43Killer specific
00:45:44Organized killers
00:45:46The disorganized
00:45:47The first ones plan
00:45:48The crimes
00:45:48With all the details
00:45:50The second courses
00:45:51Evidently
00:45:52They don't do this
00:45:53The serial killer is a specific person
00:45:55He is a punctual person
00:45:59Who does things well
00:46:00It's not a person
00:46:02That
00:46:02That
00:46:04That
00:46:06Meditate
00:46:07In his fantasies
00:46:09That are extremely fervent
00:46:11And in his projects
00:46:12That
00:46:13Make a mess
00:46:15He's one who
00:46:17Calculate everything
00:46:18He builds everything
00:46:20Then they take refuge
00:46:23Behind
00:46:23In theory
00:46:23Of the irresistible
00:46:24Impulse
00:46:25So
00:46:25The bites
00:46:26As
00:46:27The sudden impulse
00:46:27No
00:46:29Fantasy
00:46:29It is not true
00:46:30Because then you do it
00:46:31The reverse proof
00:46:32And you say
00:46:32But if it had passed
00:46:34The machine
00:46:34The police
00:46:35What would you have done?
00:46:36I would have left
00:46:37They answer
00:46:38Or
00:46:39In many cases
00:46:40The girls
00:46:42They were saved
00:46:43Why
00:46:43Coincidentally
00:46:44They intervened
00:46:45Others
00:46:46There were others
00:46:46No
00:46:46So
00:46:49They prepare
00:46:49With extreme care
00:46:51Their crime
00:46:52It's not that
00:46:53Let it be one thing
00:46:55What's happening?
00:46:56Why
00:46:56Passing by the street
00:46:58They see
00:46:58A woman
00:47:00This woman likes
00:47:01They take it
00:47:01They take her away
00:47:02Why
00:47:02Or I say
00:47:03Close to any
00:47:04About us
00:47:04Do this operation
00:47:05Here
00:47:05We get arrested
00:47:07Ipso facto
00:47:08Or shortly after
00:47:09No
00:47:09So
00:47:10They prepare very well
00:47:11Their
00:47:12Crime
00:47:13They lure
00:47:14It's the spider
00:47:15What a head the gnatela
00:47:16Then there is a certain courtship
00:47:18There is a rapprochement
00:47:20Progressive
00:47:21But
00:47:21The approach
00:47:23To the female figure
00:47:24Or at least to the victim
00:47:27It's an approach
00:47:28Made by one person
00:47:30Who never plays
00:47:31His emotions
00:47:32He can't allow us
00:47:34His emotions
00:47:35If he plays his emotions
00:47:37Risk of losing the game
00:47:38So
00:47:39Stefanin first
00:47:41He always has
00:47:41He had an approach
00:47:43Extremely cold
00:47:44Calculated
00:47:45Polished
00:47:46Meditated
00:47:47Premeditated
00:47:50Through
00:47:51Kindnesses
00:47:52Courtships
00:47:53Various genres
00:47:53Until it falls
00:47:55The girl
00:47:56In the net
00:47:57The reiteration
00:47:58Of the crime
00:47:59It's a lot
00:48:00Possible
00:48:02So much
00:48:02Let's say
00:48:03Achievable
00:48:04In certain people
00:48:05The more
00:48:07The crime
00:48:08It is inserted
00:48:09In a narrative
00:48:10Precise and continuous
00:48:11Meaning what
00:48:12It makes sense
00:48:13In a concept
00:48:15Which has a common denominator
00:48:17A common thread
00:48:18For example
00:48:20All women
00:48:22Do it a certain way
00:48:23That they do certain things
00:48:24And then you can have it
00:48:25The reiteration
00:48:26For example
00:48:28Let's say
00:48:28There are terrible crimes
00:48:30As
00:48:31Matricide
00:48:33Which are never repeated
00:48:35Meaning what
00:48:36It is not repeated
00:48:37Mom
00:48:37There is only one
00:48:38So more than one
00:48:38You can't kill it
00:48:39But then
00:48:40It doesn't even come
00:48:41Repeated
00:48:42The murder
00:48:43Why there is
00:48:45The iteration
00:48:46Of the murder
00:48:46There must be
00:48:47An internal narrative
00:48:49And insert
00:48:51This murder
00:48:52Into something
00:48:53To whom murder serves
00:48:54Or where it makes sense
00:48:56For example
00:48:57Kill all the people
00:48:59What do they think?
00:49:00In a certain way
00:49:01Do it a certain way
00:49:02That yes
00:49:03At a certain time
00:49:05A certain
00:49:05Here you are
00:49:06In short
00:49:06We need a narrative
00:49:08What precedes
00:49:09And the other murderer
00:49:10Gianfranco Stefanin
00:49:13He's a killer
00:49:14That kills
00:49:15For sexual purposes
00:49:16And in an organized way
00:49:18An organized killer
00:49:20He is a person
00:49:21What plans
00:49:22His own murders
00:49:24Select
00:49:25His victims
00:49:26Shows great control
00:49:28At the crime scene
00:49:29He is a person
00:49:30Ordered
00:49:32And it is precise
00:49:33The chosen victims
00:49:35They are selected
00:49:36With care
00:49:37They have to answer
00:49:38To certain
00:49:39Common criteria
00:49:40The power
00:49:41It's the concept
00:49:42Cardine
00:49:43On which it revolves
00:49:44Mental life
00:49:45Of the killer
00:49:46Another way
00:49:47To continue
00:49:48To exercise power
00:49:49Once captured
00:49:50That's it
00:49:51To take part
00:49:52To the investigations
00:49:53In a cooperative way
00:49:54Offering false information
00:49:56This attitude
00:49:57It has two main purposes
00:49:58Check
00:49:59The status of the investigation
00:50:01Reliving the crime
00:50:05February 7, 2002
00:50:07The Court of Cassation
00:50:08Confirms the sentence
00:50:09Of the Assize Court
00:50:10Court of Appeal of Venice
00:50:11Which has inflicted
00:50:12To Stefanin
00:50:13Life imprisonment
00:50:14It ends like this
00:50:15This sensational
00:50:16Legal case
00:50:17It started almost by chance
00:50:19In November
00:50:20From 1994
00:50:22The Supreme Court
00:50:23He claims that
00:50:24The route
00:50:25Followed by the judge
00:50:27Upon sending
00:50:27It's consistent
00:50:28Logical
00:50:29And it doesn't present
00:50:30Shortcomings
00:50:31And contradictions
00:50:33Motivational
00:50:34Stefanin
00:50:34It's perfectly
00:50:35Able
00:50:36Not only
00:50:36To pre-order
00:50:37But to organize
00:50:39Minutely
00:50:39In operational details
00:50:41The crimes
00:50:42That give him pleasure
00:50:43Keeping
00:50:44An interval
00:50:45Of appreciable time
00:50:46Between the conception
00:50:47And the execution
00:50:48About the purpose
00:50:49Criminal
00:50:50In the course
00:50:51Of which
00:50:51He not only
00:50:52He consolidated
00:50:53And he was reporting
00:50:54His intentions
00:50:55But he studied
00:50:56The modalities
00:50:57And he arranged
00:50:58The means
00:50:59For the implementation
00:51:00Concrete
00:51:01Of his plans
00:51:02Paraphilics
00:51:03It was definitely
00:51:04Able
00:51:05So
00:51:05To understand
00:51:06Want
00:51:07Moved by
00:51:08Degeneration
00:51:09Of instinct
00:51:10Sexual
00:51:11But what does it mean?
00:51:13Ability to understand
00:51:14Of wanting
00:51:15A subject
00:51:16He has the ability
00:51:16To understand
00:51:17When he succeeds
00:51:18To seize
00:51:18The meaning
00:51:19The value
00:51:20Or the disvalue
00:51:21Of one's own actions
00:51:22And then there is
00:51:23The capacity
00:51:23Of wanting
00:51:24Self-determination
00:51:25In sight
00:51:26Of a purpose
00:51:27We don't say
00:51:28Which in this specific case
00:51:30We never wrote
00:51:31What a Stefanin
00:51:32He is sane
00:51:33We wrote
00:51:34What a Stefanin
00:51:34He is capable
00:51:35To understand
00:51:36Of wanting
00:51:36One more thing
00:51:38Why one
00:51:39Can be
00:51:39A carrier
00:51:40Of a disorder
00:51:40Of personality
00:51:41Of a pathology
00:51:43And this pathology
00:51:45It does not infer
00:51:47On behavior
00:51:48Delinquent
00:51:49So what?
00:51:50At this point
00:51:51If there is not
00:51:51This link
00:51:53This link
00:51:55There is no
00:51:55The vice of the mind
00:51:56Why the crime
00:51:57It must be
00:51:58Of a subject
00:51:59What has
00:52:00A disturbance
00:52:01Mental
00:52:01Serious
00:52:02It's not enough
00:52:04Let it be
00:52:04A crime
00:52:05In a
00:52:06Subject
00:52:07A disturbance
00:52:07Severe mental
00:52:08It is essential
00:52:09Forensic psychiatry
00:52:10That's all there is to it
00:52:10He knew very well
00:52:12That shouldn't have been done
00:52:13That thing
00:52:14What was he doing?
00:52:15He knew very well
00:52:17What with that
00:52:18Him
00:52:18How to say
00:52:19He found a
00:52:21Satisfaction
00:52:22Of one of his impulses
00:52:23Deep
00:52:24Very great
00:52:25Huge
00:52:26But what with all this
00:52:27It couldn't be done
00:52:29It shouldn't have been done
00:52:30And the other person
00:52:32He was suffering
00:52:33Capable
00:52:34To understand
00:52:35Of wanting
00:52:36You consider yourself
00:52:37A subject
00:52:39Dangerous
00:52:41Absolutely
00:52:42No
00:52:42I always have
00:52:44Searched for
00:52:44From
00:52:45In any case
00:52:46Situation
00:52:47To solve
00:52:49Any
00:52:50Problem
00:52:51With
00:52:53Diplomacy
00:52:54Who took it?
00:52:56The decision
00:52:56Improve
00:52:57The court
00:52:57Of assizes
00:52:58On appeal
00:52:58Of Venice
00:52:59Or the court
00:53:00Of assizes
00:53:01From Verona
00:53:03Where
00:53:03It had been
00:53:04Sentenced
00:53:04Life imprisonment
00:53:05For then
00:53:05To have been
00:53:06Acquitted
00:53:06In court
00:53:07Of assizes
00:53:07On appeal
00:53:08In Venice
00:53:09For then
00:53:09To have been
00:53:10Re-convicted
00:53:11For the court
00:53:12Of assizes
00:53:12Another section
00:53:14Who took it?
00:53:16I have mine
00:53:17Convention
00:53:17About this thing
00:53:19But definitely
00:53:21No
00:53:23Surely
00:53:28Not
00:53:29Here you are
00:53:30The truth
00:53:30Procedural
00:53:31This is it
00:53:32The truth
00:53:34Procedural
00:53:34This is it
00:53:35From now on
00:53:37The sentence
00:53:38Definitive
00:53:39The studies
00:53:40Scientific
00:53:41On serial killers
00:53:42They begin
00:53:43Over the years
00:53:43Seventy
00:53:44A murderer
00:53:45Serial
00:53:45It's a subject
00:53:46That kills
00:53:47At least
00:53:47Three times
00:53:48In times
00:53:49And places
00:53:49Different
00:53:50Between a crime
00:53:51And the next one
00:53:51There is a period
00:53:52Is called
00:53:52Cooling
00:53:53Of Period
00:53:54A period
00:53:54Cooling down
00:53:55Emotional
00:53:56But there are
00:53:57Of the phases
00:53:58Well specific
00:53:59What they bring
00:54:00The killer
00:54:00To kill
00:54:01There is a phase
00:54:02In which he
00:54:03He lives
00:54:03The situation
00:54:04In fantasy
00:54:05Then he chooses
00:54:06His victim
00:54:07The pawn
00:54:07The capture
00:54:08And puts into action
00:54:09All this
00:54:10Who fantasized
00:54:11Then there is the moment
00:54:13In which you have to
00:54:14Dispose of the body
00:54:15And to all this
00:54:16A phase begins
00:54:16Of depression
00:54:17That slowly slowly
00:54:18Leave the space
00:54:19Again
00:54:19To sadistic fantasies
00:54:20Perverse
00:54:23Gianfranco
00:54:24Stevanin
00:54:25It's a perfect
00:54:27Assassin
00:54:27Organized
00:54:29His murders
00:54:30I am always
00:54:31For sexual purposes
00:54:32They are organized
00:54:33Down to the smallest details
00:54:34They are characterized
00:54:35From desire
00:54:36To impose oneself
00:54:37To submit
00:54:38Humiliate
00:54:39Completely
00:54:40The victim
00:54:40Mental life
00:54:41By Stevanin
00:54:42It revolves around
00:54:43To anomalous fantasies
00:54:44First Buaierism
00:54:46Photo
00:54:47Magazines
00:54:47Pornographic publications
00:54:49Then
00:54:50Around designs
00:54:52Of sadistic rituals
00:54:54Well
00:54:55Sex
00:54:56It's the leitmotif
00:54:58It's the motive
00:55:00Which is the basis
00:55:01Of all the crimes
00:55:02What a clerk
00:55:03Stevanin
00:55:03They called him
00:55:05The man
00:55:05With the ball
00:55:06About sex
00:55:10All people
00:55:11Normal
00:55:12They once had
00:55:14To the other
00:55:14Desired
00:55:16Death
00:55:16Of those
00:55:17Who love
00:55:18The man
00:55:19It is the only creature
00:55:22Who refuses
00:55:23To be
00:55:23What is
00:55:24The drive
00:55:26The drive
00:55:52Sexual
00:55:54It's not an instinct
00:55:54Give me a goal
00:55:55Non-sexual
00:55:56As in the case
00:55:57For example
00:55:57To make a work of art
00:55:59Or write a poem
00:56:00The men
00:56:01We need to recognize this.
00:56:02This
00:56:03Let's say it
00:56:03They have no instincts
00:56:05Because instinct
00:56:06It's a rigid answer
00:56:08To a stimulus
00:56:08If I show
00:56:10A piece of meat
00:56:11To a cow
00:56:11The cow
00:56:12He doesn't see it
00:56:12As food
00:56:13If I show him
00:56:14Some hay
00:56:14He eats it
00:56:15We don't have
00:56:16Rigid answers
00:56:17We have generic pushes
00:56:19With an undetermined destination
00:56:20So what?
00:56:21Even the size
00:56:22Sexual
00:56:22It should be considered
00:56:23Like a generic push
00:56:24With an undetermined destination
00:56:26Nothing instinctive
00:56:28So
00:56:29I am not determined
00:56:30In front of
00:56:31To a sexual drive
00:56:32While a dog
00:56:33Jump on me
00:56:33To another dog
00:56:34Not necessarily
00:56:35I jump on
00:56:36To a beautiful girl
00:56:37In the subway
00:56:40The origin
00:56:41Of these behaviors
00:56:42Pathological
00:56:43It can be found
00:56:45Digging it up
00:56:45In his past
00:56:46Analyzing
00:56:47The delicate relationship
00:56:49With his mother
00:56:49On the one hand
00:56:51The woman
00:56:52With his presence
00:56:53It made it easier
00:56:54Everything
00:56:54It made it possible
00:56:56The impossible
00:57:06Stefanin claims
00:57:07Of not being
00:57:09Never succeeded
00:57:10To have
00:57:11Relations
00:57:12Long-lasting
00:57:12With the girls
00:57:13Because
00:57:14Of the continuous ones
00:57:15Interferences
00:57:16Of the mother
00:57:16The woman
00:57:17He can't give it to me
00:57:18Spontaneously
00:57:19And selflessly
00:57:20What he gave me
00:57:21My mother
00:57:50For Stefanin
00:57:52Pleasure through
00:57:53The humiliation
00:57:54It's a daffodil
00:57:55He needs
00:57:56Of admiration
00:57:57Of the others
00:57:57But he despises them
00:57:59Don't tolerate
00:58:00The waste
00:58:02The psychiatrists
00:58:03They asked me
00:58:04To describe myself
00:58:04In two words
00:58:05You think
00:58:06To be able to
00:58:06Recognize
00:58:07In one sentence
00:58:07What I read
00:58:08In a magazine
00:58:08Elegant
00:58:09Refined
00:58:10Always with a hint
00:58:12Of that good smell
00:58:13And perfectly shaved
00:58:14To him
00:58:15The woman
00:58:15Pleases
00:58:15Nature
00:58:16In a miniskirt
00:58:17Without panties
00:58:19No tights
00:58:20AND
00:58:20Why not
00:58:21Shaved
00:58:24The psychiatrists
00:58:25However, they have
00:58:26Taking into consideration
00:58:27Much more
00:58:28That my description
00:58:31Him today
00:58:31He's the winner
00:58:32Psychologically speaking
00:58:34Because we do not forget
00:58:36What a Stefanin
00:58:36It is true
00:58:37That there is a prison
00:58:38To be discounted
00:58:38But
00:58:39He won it
00:58:40On the judges
00:58:41Nobody knows
00:58:41How many murders did he commit?
00:58:43How many women did he kill?
00:58:44And all of them
00:58:45I am like this
00:58:46Their victory
00:58:47It's at that level there
00:58:47So
00:58:48Sometimes
00:58:49They tell you
00:58:50What they want to tell you
00:58:51They don't tell you
00:58:51What
00:58:52They actually did
00:58:53The light ratio
00:58:54Shadow
00:58:55It's a relationship
00:58:55Essential
00:58:56Perhaps
00:58:57We should
00:58:58Also introject
00:58:59A bit'
00:58:59Our shadow
00:59:00And show it
00:59:02A painting
00:59:02It's not a painting
00:59:03If there are no shadows
00:59:05A man
00:59:05He is not a man
00:59:06If it doesn't have its shadow
00:59:07The problem
00:59:08It is to recognize it
00:59:09Because if I recognize
00:59:10My shadow
00:59:11Automatically
00:59:12I know how to handle it
00:59:13I know how to relate
00:59:16Jung even said
00:59:17That the shadow
00:59:17One's own shadow
00:59:18It should even be loved
00:59:19In this way
00:59:21He gives in to us
00:59:21Of energy
00:59:22While if we do
00:59:23The war in the shadow
00:59:25To our bad side
00:59:27All in all
00:59:28This one gets ferocious
00:59:29And from the rest
00:59:31In a certain sense
00:59:33The balance
00:59:34Self-possession
00:59:35It is acquired
00:59:36Taking on one's own shadow
00:59:38And saying to themselves
00:59:40Yes, I am this too
00:59:41So what?
00:59:42At this point
00:59:43I show up with a clean face
00:59:45Of those who have seen his shadow
00:59:46And the delivery to others
00:59:48While those who defend themselves
00:59:49They are the ones who
00:59:50When you touch them
00:59:51They feel stung to the quick
00:59:52That living thing is the shadow
00:59:54And their bad side
00:59:55What they hide
00:59:56But that's not the case
00:59:57Of waging war on oneself
00:59:58Even the shadow must be welcomed
01:00:00Gianfranco Stevanin
01:00:01He carefully
01:00:02He planned his crimes
01:00:04He selected the victims
01:00:05Then he brought them
01:00:06In an isolated place
01:00:07He tortured them
01:00:08He killed them
01:00:09It fell apart
01:00:10Of their bodies
01:00:11Tearing them apart
01:00:12During the process
01:00:13For him
01:00:14It was not recognized
01:00:15Any inability
01:00:16To understand and to want
01:00:17He killed only
01:00:18To satisfy
01:00:19A pleasure of its own
01:00:20Sadistic and sexual
01:00:22Gianfranco Stevanin
01:00:23He crossed the shadow line
01:00:24What do you expect?
01:00:27From the judges?
01:00:32I don't know what to tell her
01:00:34Why here?
01:00:37We have to see
01:00:39Person by person
01:00:40What idea did you get of me?
01:00:42But how do you consider yourself?
01:00:44How do I consider myself?
01:00:46Yes
01:00:50As he said
01:00:51My lawyer
01:00:54Probably sick
01:01:07What has happened to me?
01:01:49Thanks for watching
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