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00:00Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:30It was so unexpected.
00:33They said,
00:35you should investigate Dr. Phil.
00:38We were like, what the f*** is that?
00:40I mean, like, that's ridiculous.
00:41We're serious people and we are not going to investigate Dr. Phil
00:44because that is not a serious thing to investigate.
00:48We were wrong.
00:55We haven't asked you to do this anonymously.
00:58This is at your request, is that correct?
01:02Yes.
01:03I hear the ratings are huge, so you must be like, yeah, I'm the man.
01:09Well, if you're going to do it, do it right, I suppose.
01:11But really, I'm proud of what we've done.
01:13I truly think that it's the highest and best use of television.
01:21I would like for people to have a real idea about Dr. Phil.
01:28They are there to get you in and out so fast.
01:31Have a taxi cab literally sitting out there.
01:33I pulled my eyes out in that cab.
01:38They're set up to fail.
01:40They're manipulated.
01:43We had to do absolutely everything that we could to get them there.
01:48I had no say in anything at all the entire time we were there.
01:53My traumatic experiences were seen as entertainment.
01:58Fear is permanent every day.
02:02It was a cult.
02:03You feel like you're working for the devil.
02:06Technically, he's not a real doctor, but, like, he's Dr. Phil.
02:10That's his whole brand.
02:12He is no stranger to controversy,
02:14and television's Dr. Phil is under fire once again today.
02:18He's the most successful guy on television.
02:20What happens to this guy?
02:21Who can touch him?
02:22I'm never surprised now when somebody comes out
02:26and says that Dr. Phil exploited them.
02:40When it comes to talk shows in the sort of 90s,
02:44how was America engaging in its problems on national TV, would you say?
02:49Wow.
02:50Okay.
02:52Throughout the 80s, the talk show began to become a bigger and bigger thing,
02:57where it would be a family in crisis,
03:00and the host would talk to them,
03:02and maybe they'd bring out an expert,
03:03and Oprah Winfrey very quickly became the queen of daytime television.
03:14She brought a whole bunch of people on at the same time.
03:17Uh, Dr. Oz, who is now working for the federal government,
03:23and then Dr. Phil.
03:24My next guest is here to help lead you in the right direction.
03:27I've chosen him because he is the person who helped me the most getting through my trial.
03:33Oprah got to know Dr. Phil from using the business that he had built before he became a TV shrink.
03:40Opening statements are set for today in the Texas Cattlemen's lawsuit against Oprah Winfrey.
03:45Oprah and her production company knew they needed help, so they called Dr. Phil McGraw at courtroom sciences.
03:52When you get on the witness stand, it can rock you back on your heels, and you can be less
03:57effective than you might be otherwise.
03:59Oprah really liked his manner, so she started bringing him on.
04:03Dr. Phil is here. He's definitely all wound up and ready for action.
04:06He was speaking kind of truth in a way that felt good and felt kind of emotionally satisfying.
04:13You can't be romantic enough for her to want to have sex three times a day, okay?
04:19Dr. Phil was a breakout star.
04:21Dr. Phil went from being an occasional guest on the show to being a regular guest on the show to
04:25being a fixture on the show.
04:27Now to a man known to tens of millions of television viewers as simply Dr. Phil.
04:31He's emerged as a top contender for the eyes and ears of advice-starved Americans.
04:36Within a couple years, they gave him his own show, and immediately, like, his face was suddenly everywhere.
04:42Man, are you making a splash. Your show is what? The number two daytime show after Oprah.
04:48He became like Oprah in that you don't need a last name. And then when she left, he was on
04:55top.
04:55The addiction treatment industry.
04:57We were starting to get a lot of tips, and it was sort of through that that we got the
05:03tip about the Dr. Phil show.
05:06Ain't life just grand? It's lots of hard work. It truly is. But really, it is pretty damn glamorous and
05:14exciting.
05:15First, we just started watching the show. Like, we watched a lot of Dr. Phil.
05:22In the early days of Dr. Phil, the segments are funnier. They're lighter.
05:27No running water in the bathroom?
05:29Whoa! Whoa!
05:31I shook y'all's hands when you came up here.
05:33The next clip shows he was a straight-talking Texas guy cutting through the bullshit
05:40because he cares about you, and he's gonna tell you the truth, and it's like a truth that you need
05:44to hear.
05:44You teach people how to treat you, okay? You need to stand your ground and start the negotiation over,
05:52because you got some help now. You got me. All right?
05:57Later, there was a turning point where the tone really shifted.
06:05With every step of investigation that we did, the picture got bigger and darker.
06:13This was the first time that I had ever watched the Dr. Phil show with my full attention and with
06:19any critical thought.
06:21In the first four years of the show, he still was a licensed psychologist.
06:27Because I feel like I've been given a very powerful platform, and I need to be a good steward of
06:34that influence.
06:35And so I weigh very carefully what I say before I say it, because I know millions of people the
06:40world over are watching him.
06:41But then we found that in 2006, he let his license lapse, which means that he's not a licensed doctor.
06:52After that, you can see yourself. The show became more sensational, more disturbing.
06:59She claims her father is a violent, dangerous psychopath.
07:03It goes from, like, mom's on the edge to my daughter thinks she's pregnant with baby Jesus. What will the
07:10ultrasound show?
07:11I am pregnant.
07:14And it is Jesus.
07:16It is so outrageous.
07:18He presents himself as this trustworthy, straight-talking doctor. That's his whole brand.
07:28But the reality is so at odds with the thing they are pretending to be.
07:36I just don't understand why people go on the show.
07:55I was 16 in high school.
07:59That's when I wound up finding out that I was pregnant.
08:04Me and my boyfriend broke up about a month into the pregnancy.
08:12I didn't really feel comfortable with, like, abortion.
08:15I felt that it was the right choice to take care of it and hold myself responsible.
08:23Everybody was very conflicted.
08:25My stepfather did not feel confident in my decision.
08:30My mom just wanted to support me.
08:34Her and my stepfather were fighting nonstop.
08:36She was just desperate.
08:37She didn't want to have to choose between her husband and her child.
08:43So she wrote in to the Dr. Phil show.
08:51The night before flying out, I said to my mom,
08:55please don't make me go on the show.
08:57And that is when she had told me that, you know, if you care about your family,
09:02then you're going to go on the show.
09:04And despite not wanting to go, I went.
09:20When I first talked to the Dr. Phil show, I was reached out to. I didn't ask for help.
09:25Investigators say Cassandra Taruga wanted to kill a pregnant friend and then steal her baby by performing a C-section.
09:33In 2011, I was 18 and pregnant when my friend asked to come over to my house.
09:38According to court paperwork, Taruga came over with two large butcher knives and a pair of scissors.
09:44She told me that there was this gift that she wanted to give me.
09:49She told me to turn around and close my eyes.
09:51She just says one, two.
09:54And right when she says three, I felt like there was a knife to my back.
10:00I stood up as fast as I could, ran and turned the light on.
10:04911 was called, the cops were there.
10:06They could all see two large butcher knives.
10:10They also found scissors, disinfectant, a baby onesie, a newborn blanket.
10:15That's when I started to realize she had plotted to kill me and perform a C-section on my body
10:20to take my unborn child.
10:25The next day, I had every news station sitting outside my house.
10:31Everybody wanted to have an interview with me, but they wanted to change my story to make their own narrative
10:37of what had happened.
10:39So I declined everybody.
10:44Until I received an email from a producer from the Dr. Phil show.
10:50They were just kind of different.
10:54They wanted to give me that platform to tell my story and they would be honored to be able to
10:59do this.
11:01They said that specifically.
11:02Specifically, they wanted to give me a platform.
11:06I just trusted what the producers were saying.
11:10The Dr. Phil show was like royalty.
11:12There was nothing but good things that anybody said about him.
11:18At least that's what it seemed like.
11:27I grew up watching Dr. Phil.
11:30And I was happy to be there.
11:33At the start.
11:36There was no standards around the content that we would produce.
11:41It was never about how can we help this person.
11:46I think I would describe Dr. Phil as something of a manipulative egomaniac.
11:53The guests don't realize how personal they're going to get and how bad it makes them look.
12:01We had to do absolutely everything that we could to get them there.
12:07We were told to tell them that it's going to be life changing, that he's going to help them, that
12:11they're going to get resources that they would never otherwise get.
12:14I would tell many, many other lies.
12:18Everybody believed that he was a real doctor and that, you know, he had the best of intentions for that.
12:23It really wasn't until they actually like got on stage that it all sort of started to fall apart.
12:29I mean, it was really brutal.
12:39They flew me out there.
12:41The producers were super nice.
12:43They sent a cab to come get me and my baby.
12:46They even bought a car seat for him.
12:49I was actually really excited for the whole thing.
12:55I was told to make sure that they were taken care of.
12:59That was my job as a travel coordinator, to make sure that it was flawless from door to door.
13:05Your hotel is going to be paid for, your meals, you'll take care of all of it.
13:11Was that the brief that you were told to make them feel like sort of stars?
13:16Yeah.
13:19We did get picked up by a very large limo.
13:24They gave us a five-star hotel.
13:29The hotel room was very, very nice.
13:32We got $150 of room service a day.
13:35Having somebody come and get me things, especially being a mom, I was like, wow.
13:40This is nice.
13:44You're in the glitz of Hollywood.
13:47There's a sedan picking you up and taking them to the studio.
13:51Right into the iconic entrance to Paramount Pictures.
13:57I mean, your head is spinning.
14:00So there was a lot of love bombing, basically.
14:04Yes.
14:05By the people working to get these people on the show.
14:13When you were in it, did you enjoy it?
14:18No.
14:20No.
14:23It was an open area.
14:26Call it the bullpen.
14:27Where all the producers and APs and PAs all sat.
14:33The anxiety just was everywhere in that office.
14:42What was Phil like?
14:47He was an intimidating person.
14:51He was a very tall, big guy.
14:55It's a sort of direct, booming voice coming at you.
15:00And the way Dr. Phil treated the producers created an environment of fear.
15:07You don't want to end up in a room with Dr. Phil being screamed at.
15:13Fear is permanent anxiety every day.
15:20The producers were high-strung and erotic.
15:23They didn't seem like broken people.
15:26They were just awful people.
15:35I never felt I could go to someone about what was going on.
15:41It's a place of control.
15:45The audience, they don't know the true man behind the persona and the name.
15:52That's all made up.
15:53It's a lie.
16:08I was only 17 when my mom wrote the show.
16:15Our family was very broken.
16:19My brother had molested me when we were younger, twice.
16:24He was taken out of the home by family services and my mom signed away her parental rights to him.
16:33But when he was in custody of the state, he never actually finished any kind of sexual offender program.
16:40When he turned 18, they let him go and he moved in with my dad.
16:45He was doing whatever he wanted.
16:49He was just really messed up.
16:55My mom was scared that he was going to re-offend.
16:59She knew he still needed that help.
17:03That's why she wrote the show.
17:07My mom was like, a Dr. Phil show answered me and, you know, we're going to get help.
17:12I had been in therapy for years, but my mom didn't want me to be re-traumatized.
17:19But the Dr. Phil producers said that either I went or they weren't going to do it at all.
17:26You know, he was still my brother.
17:29I thought it would be good for everybody.
17:39When we first got to the studio, the producer that I had been working with from day one was like,
17:44Hi, Angelique. Like, it's so nice to see you.
17:47They start treating you like royalty, making you feel like you're important.
17:50Like, everything about you is amazing.
17:53And it gives you that little bit of trust where you're just like, man, like, I'm so excited for this.
18:02So we started to reach out to guests who had been on the show.
18:05We started to hear the same story again and again.
18:09People described sort of feeling pressure from the producers.
18:14A little bit entrapped almost, like they didn't know how to get out anymore.
18:18And that was when some people described feeling like, maybe I don't want to do this.
18:26We drove to Paramount.
18:30We went to this little area with a bush, kind of hidden.
18:34It was like a little door.
18:35And in there was all of the interview rooms.
18:40They were very passionate in saying, he wants to help you guys so much.
18:44Like, it's going to be this life changing thing.
18:47And my parents believed this.
18:51So despite going, I was very vocal to the staff that I didn't want to be there.
18:56And they told me that I was being a difficult child and that I just had to do what I
18:59was told.
19:02It actually got to a point where they attempted to coerce me into doing it by telling me that maybe,
19:09you know, if you record your interviews, maybe we can have Dr. Phil help you get your boyfriend back.
19:20When we went to do the interviews, they separated my mom and I.
19:27Once we started filming, one of the producers wanted me to talk in detail about my brother molesting me for
19:37about four hours.
19:39They wanted specific details.
19:42Set in certain ways.
19:46I was kind of forced into that.
19:48And I realized, I want to go home.
19:52When I told the producer, I don't want to do this, she looked directly at me and she said, if
19:57you don't film this episode tomorrow, we won't pay for your way home.
20:05We were a low income family.
20:07We didn't have the money to pay for a plane ride back for all four of us.
20:13So there wasn't really anything we could do about it.
20:17Did you feel in any way in control, like you had agency?
20:22Oh, no, I had, I had no say in anything at all.
20:28I was only 17.
20:31I had no idea what I was getting myself into.
20:36I was just a kid, a very naive, you know, kid.
20:46If you step back and look at the experiences of these guests sort of broadly, they really do mirror the
20:54arc of like an abusive relationship.
20:59Drawing you in, making you dependent, making it so you can't leave and get them to do what you want.
21:08And I do think that that is power.
21:14I mean, one of the guests told us that they risked his life for ratings.
21:25Most of the guests, they're set up to fail, essentially.
21:31When they arrive to the studio, they're manipulated.
21:38Say you have someone who has an alcohol problem.
21:43Let's just casually put vodka in the green room to then come out intoxicated.
21:52Did that happen?
21:55Yeah.
21:56Yeah.
21:57That was after my time.
22:00But I knew about it.
22:04Alcohol in a guest's room, if that would create some drama, was absolutely something that they would do.
22:10The producers would want to set people up.
22:20Todd Herzog, one survivor at 22, he was addicted to alcohol, which is an extremely dangerous type of addiction.
22:31He said that when he went into his dressing room, he found full bottles of vodka and he drank one.
22:40When you watch the episode, Dr. Phil is like, well, we have to get Todd out here.
22:46We'll ask Debbie and Brandon to bring Todd out right now.
22:49And that's going to be a bit of a chore, but we'll do what we can here.
22:53Okay, come on.
22:54Shoot.
22:56Dr. Phil and one of the interventionists each take an arm.
23:01Everyone is quiet, and all you can hear is just Todd crying quietly.
23:09I'm sorry I'm crying because I just can't believe this is happening.
23:16Dr. Phil is like, I want to see how drunk you are.
23:20This is a breathalyzer.
23:23Okay.
23:23I want you to blow into it really hard for five seconds when I tell you.
23:27Okay.
23:29Todd felt like the Dr. Phil show had left the alcohol in his room.
23:36I don't believe they just have breathalyzers hanging around.
23:40It just suggests a level of premeditation.
23:44So then Todd blows a .26, which is very high, and Dr. Phil puts up on his screen the effects
23:52of alcohol at that blood alcohol level.
23:55At .25, just so all of you know, all mental, physical, and sensory functions are severely impaired, emotionally and physically
24:05numb, and possible loss of consciousness.
24:08And Dr. Phil says, I've never spoken to anyone closer to death.
24:13You can take him to the hospital.
24:15What are you doing?
24:20It was a very weird experience to feel upset at something that everyone else sees, and nobody thinks there's anything
24:28wrong with it.
24:30The hypocrisy is so rank.
24:33Once you understand that what it actually is, is a ritualistic humiliation of people who have come to you for
24:43help,
24:45you can't watch it and think it's funny or meaningless anymore.
24:49It's just sad.
24:56Phil is not doing this to help this person.
25:00These people are objects to bring on stage, bring in ratings, and then get them off.
25:08It's all about the bottom line.
25:13It was dysfunctional and probably amoral and terrible, but it worked well enough to be the top syndicated show.
25:22I think it's hard to tell people to not watch that train wreck, especially if watching that train wreck makes
25:28you feel better about your life.
25:30I don't think that's good for people, but it never stopped the next family from wanting to come in.
25:38If it's a question of, like, ethics versus ratings, we may talk a better game now.
25:46It's, I mean, it's all bullshit.
25:48Like, everyone wants to make, you know, something that'll be shared by a bajillion people on social media.
25:56Ratings always are going to win.
26:02Guests that we spoke to, they describe producers telling them how amazing this was going to be and how Dr.
26:07Phil chose them because their story was important.
26:11But I think he saw people as things to be manipulated for ratings.
26:19And then they would get out on stage and it would be just humiliation.
26:30Right after you're done with hair and makeup, they put you in, like, this room.
26:34It was just for my son and I.
26:36Me and my mom weren't even together.
26:39Before getting on the stage, they had us sign stuff.
26:43Did you tell your mom again that you really didn't want to be there?
26:45Yes, I did. However, my mom told me that since we were already there that it was too late.
26:52At 16, I wasn't comfortable with that.
26:56From my point of view, I did not really have a choice.
27:00I repeated to everybody in the room, the producers, hair and makeup people, everybody.
27:06Is there any way we can back out of this? And they told me no.
27:12I was terrified.
27:15I was terrified.
27:18So this is the release.
27:20Dr. Phil does not and will not administer individual, group or medical therapy.
27:25You have to agree that you will not sue for invasion of privacy, defamation, infliction of emotional distress.
27:34I mean, you give up all your rights to go on the show before you go on it.
27:40And then you go on the show and you're horrifically humiliated in front of America.
27:44And then you're like, oh, I signed away the rights to do anything about this.
27:48I can't even talk about it.
27:53Somebody comes and goes, OK, it's time for you to go on.
27:57You just head out to the stage and all you see is bright lights everywhere.
28:09I remember going up on the stage in front of this live audience.
28:15Physically, I was shaking. I could hardly speak.
28:22When the cameras began to roll,
28:26immediately Dr. Phil brought up how teen pregnancy was over-glorified.
28:32And introduced me as sort of like exhibit A.
28:36Were you having unprotected sex?
28:39Yeah, I was having unprotected sex.
28:41And I was on birth control.
28:43We were all told that it was about bringing the family together.
28:48But I was very, like, shocked and scared to see him picking a side.
28:52Did you get pregnant on purpose?
28:54No, I did not get pregnant on purpose.
28:56Did you want to get pregnant? No.
28:58And you want to keep the baby?
29:01I'd like to keep the baby.
29:03And raise the baby.
29:06But what you really mean is you want to keep the baby so your family can raise the baby, right?
29:12No.
29:13Immediately, this was about stupid, dumbass Emily, who does not know what she's doing.
29:20Who out of everybody involved is least equipped to make this decision?
29:25I haven't even met this man.
29:26And this is what he had already determined about my entire life and all of my capabilities.
29:33She's a child having a child.
29:35But part of growing up is to realize when you choose the behavior, you choose the consequences.
29:40And she chose a behavior here with a consequence that affects a human being for the rest of their life.
29:48Dr. Phil did not ever address that it was my choice.
29:51In fact, I did feel at the time that Dr. Phil was depriving me of that choice.
30:01I felt absolutely humiliated.
30:11There wasn't any kind of conversation with Dr. Phil before we actually started.
30:18Dr. Phil walks out and the whole audience claps.
30:22And then I went out on the stage and, you know, sat in the chair.
30:26And they changed our names to be anonymous.
30:30Well, 17-year-old Addison says her 18-year-old brother, Colin, is selfish, arrogant, and has molested multiple people,
30:39including her.
30:41Once he had talked to me for a little bit, they brought my mom out second.
30:46He talked to my mom and then he said, I just want to let you know that your brother's interview
30:51is going to be played on the screen in front of everybody.
30:53We're going to hear from him now.
30:56He does talk about some of his violation of you in somewhat graphic terms.
31:05We've edited it down as much as possible.
31:08Are you okay with us playing this?
31:11Yeah.
31:11And you had no idea that they were going to do this?
31:14I didn't.
31:16That was the first time I heard him talking about it.
31:21My sister was asleep on the couch.
31:23So I went in there and I was feeling over her clothes.
31:28And I reached my hand down her pants.
31:31And I took it one step further and reached my hand down her panties.
31:34And he went into detail about exactly what he had done to me.
31:39And I was reliving that trauma on a stage in front of an entire audience.
31:46They brought my brother out next.
31:49We had been separated for years.
31:54So I did confront him maybe a couple times, but I pretty much stayed quiet after that.
32:01I honestly, just sitting there on that stage, I felt like I wanted to die.
32:06And then Dr. Phil kind of leans up like he's trying to crack a joke.
32:10And he goes, well...
32:12I'd like to thank all of my guests today.
32:15And we'll see you next time.
32:21It was like making a joke out of the whole thing.
32:25Dr. Phil walked off the stage.
32:28And that was it.
32:33I just remember feeling gutted.
32:35Like the wind had been knocked out of me.
32:38They don't care about your mental health.
32:40They care about their show.
32:45Of all of the horrible stories that I have heard about the Dr. Phil show, I think Marcy Newberry's story
32:52is the worst.
32:55When you're watching that teenage boy describing in graphic detail his sexual assault of his 11-year-old sister.
33:03And then Dr. Phil makes her watch in front of a studio audience.
33:08Who are the people that are watching it and thinking like, yeah, this is good.
33:13It's like child abuse.
33:15It's like watching child abuse.
33:18But it's entertainment.
33:26Before I walked out on the stage, I thought I was going to throw up.
33:31Because I had a really bad feeling that something was wrong.
33:37I was prepared to tell my story.
33:40And he immediately goes into, you had warning signs though.
33:44Now you had an instinct and you ignored it, right?
33:47Yes, I did.
33:48You said you had a strange feeling about her.
33:50Yes.
33:51He was like, this happened.
33:53Yet you did this.
33:54This happened.
33:55But you did that.
33:57So it rose to the level that you actually said it out loud.
34:01Yes.
34:02But yet you stayed home alone with her when your mother took the boys to football practice.
34:07And I'm like, yeah, but that's not.
34:09And then he's like, wait, hold on.
34:10But then this happened.
34:11And I'm like, you're not letting me talk.
34:13How do you really ask somebody like, hey, are you trying to kill me?
34:16That's how nice you are.
34:18If the conversation has gotten to the point where that question is part of the dialogue, then it's time for
34:28them to go home.
34:31When the audience and him laughed, that broke me.
34:36I felt humiliated.
34:39I felt like he was blaming me.
34:41And then all of a sudden, he brings out this book.
34:46I wrote this book about people like you.
34:50About nice people who get taken advantage of.
34:54The book is called Life Code.
34:58I was used.
35:00Dr. Phil promoted his book and said that it's about people just like me.
35:05People that are too nice.
35:07But he used the fact that I trusted the Dr. Phil show to do it.
35:12That is what a narcissist does.
35:17And he's a master manipulator on that part.
35:23When the show ends, he doesn't even say a word to you.
35:27He just walks right past you like you're nothing.
35:28Woo!
35:30Hi!
35:31The producers are like, you did so good.
35:34You know, let's go back to your dressing room.
35:37They are there to get you in and out so fast.
35:40I bawled my eyes out in that cab.
35:45I came onto the show to take 10 steps forward.
35:51I had taken 10 steps backwards.
35:54Dr. Phil just basically stated that I was stupid.
35:57And it made me feel like I deserved what happened.
36:02That's always stuck with me.
36:03It's something that I can't get out of my head.
36:06I'm still working through it, through therapy now.
36:23I just told my mom I was scared to go home.
36:28And I was afraid to face the world after kind of learning that everybody in the world was against me.
36:39My mom, she apologized.
36:42She has told me many times that it was probably the worst decision that she's ever made in her entire
36:48life.
36:50And that she would do anything that she could to take it back.
36:56Because of Dr. Phil, for a very long time, I was very hyper fixated on making sure I was always
37:02doing the right thing.
37:04I suffered a lot of very bad anxiety attacks.
37:09Now I realize that I should have been protected.
37:15I did not have to listen to what everybody told me.
37:20I was not being a difficult child because I didn't feel comfortable going on television.
37:26I had boundaries.
37:27And those boundaries should have been respected.
37:36Despite what Dr. Phil said, I have an incredible daughter.
37:40She is 13.
37:41And she is an honor roll student.
37:45An advanced orchestra.
37:46First chair.
37:48You get straight A's.
37:49She's literally the most thoughtful, empathetic child.
37:55She is everything that Dr. Phil did not expect.
38:07Literally, I remember one guest out of, I mean, 50 plus, that left in a better space than they came
38:15in.
38:17The first text that you would get.
38:19You've ruined my life.
38:20I'm never gonna live this down.
38:22I mean, the messages.
38:24Just horrible.
38:25Horrible, horrible.
38:28I don't think they really cared about the guests or if they got better.
38:33I think the guests felt like they got thrown out like trash when they bared their souls on this show.
38:41We have an aftercare program where we follow up with 100% of the people that are on the show.
38:48At no expense to them, care in their own community to work out the problem.
38:54There is something that he has over people.
38:59People say that they watched his show and he seemed to help people and he sends people to the best
39:04treatment in the whole world.
39:06But I have a really hard time understanding how you can believe it.
39:11I think people went on this show expecting that it was going to fix their lives.
39:18And that's not what happened.
39:27Once we got home, everything felt different.
39:30I didn't feel okay.
39:34There was a night where my brother's interview just kept playing in my head.
39:38And I decided that I didn't want to be here anymore because I knew that that was going to air
39:42on national television.
39:51I took 30 pain pills.
39:54I fell on the floor and I had a seizure.
39:56And then I was taken to the hospital after that.
39:58I don't remember a lot. I was really out of it.
40:04I almost died.
40:07The family was still broken. Honestly, way more than we were before we went on the show.
40:14They throw you out there. They send you home and you never speak to them again.
40:21I was put in a psychiatric facility for a little bit.
40:25My mom declined mentally and physically.
40:30She's in a nursing home now.
40:33I don't see my dad ever.
40:35And my brother is in prison.
40:38He got five years for possession of child pornography.
40:46I just hope Dr. Phil realizes what he's actually done.
40:51And how deeply they hurt people.
40:56Their promise of care.
40:58But I can tell you that it comes at a price.
41:03Over a decade of hell for us is just an episode number for Dr. Phil.
41:07I told the neighbors, get cameras. Film it all.
41:13They're paying them as consultants to make sure that the Dr. Phil referrals keep rolling in.
41:18What treatment providers actually go on the Dr. Phil show?
41:22Surely, Dr. Phil wouldn't be sending kids off to be abused.
41:26Dr. Phil says, I have security guards at every door. Nobody leaves.
41:31All of us have wanted to say, this happened. Please stop this from happening.
41:38It's very hard to follow the money, but you know the money is going somewhere.
41:43What if you see, that's the only way.
42:00Something like that they could actually want.
42:00I'm just curious.
42:01I don't know who's it.
42:01I don't know who's it.
42:01But I know who's it.
42:11I don't know where that's going to happen.
42:12That's it.
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