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10:22Vous êtes accusés de me avoir un affaire.
10:25Oui.
10:26Je vais vous dire quelque chose.
10:28Oui.
10:28Je ne vais pas avoir quelqu'un venir.
10:30Il y a un 30-year-old dans le groupe.
10:32Vous dites que vous avez un affaire avec moi.
10:34Vous ne allez pas avoir un affaire.
10:35Oui.
10:36Vous êtes mentés de me avoir un affaire quand vous et Jessie avez l'affaire.
10:40Vous et Jessie ont un alliance à essayer de faire des choses et de faire mieux pour vous.
10:44Et à essayer de me faire un affaire pour quelque chose que je n'ai pas fait.
10:47Comment vous avez eu pensé que ça va ?
10:49So you think him and Jessie came together.
10:52I see it clear as day.
10:53I would bet my life on it that that's what's happening.
10:56This is actually my worst nightmare.
10:58Being in this glam chair next to Demi and Whitney talking shit on my friend.
11:01I really just don't know how long I can stay silent.
11:06Anyway, I think the most frustrating thing for me about all of this
11:10is the alliance that's been formed around Jessie's word.
11:15It sucks because I even still give Layla grace.
11:19I even still give Macy and Mikaela grace because they don't know.
11:23They haven't been through it.
11:24They don't understand what that feels like.
11:26I'm going to hold my name in her mouth, so of course.
11:32Not in a bad way.
11:33Put away from you.
11:34No, not in a bad way.
11:35I'm saying, no, what I'm saying is that I give the people grace
11:37who haven't gone through that because they don't understand.
11:40And that's just life.
11:42Like, how can you understand if you haven't completely gone through that?
11:45Wait, gone through what?
11:46Just being on the complete out and being ostracized
11:49and being talked about in every TikTok and being told that you're a liar.
11:52I saw comments from the other women in favor of Marciano
11:56and against me basically calling me a liar.
11:59Asking why was I continuing conversation with him afterwards if this happened.
12:04Just the classic case of victim blaming and there is no excuse to going online
12:11and calling a woman who's been a victim in any way, shape or form a liar
12:17unless you have proof and evidence that that did not happen.
12:20I don't know if that's you specifically or if it's Mikaela specifically.
12:24I really hope not given what happened to both you and Mikaela.
12:28I would hope that you would be like, hey, if something happened, I'm going to believe you
12:32because that's why people don't come forward and talk about it
12:35because they're afraid of, oh, how's it going to look that I handled it in this way?
12:39But as you know, there's no...
12:41To me, it brings up my past history with abuse
12:44and it feels a little inappropriate to me because our situations are so vastly different.
12:49I was in an abusive relationship.
12:51I was abused, choked, hit, pushed, all these things.
12:55I was raped.
12:56And this situation is so different than what she went through.
13:00So to me, it almost feels insensitive that she's trying to compare the two
13:04or use me as a scapegoat for what she's going through.
13:08This is just, this whole thing is just a mess and a tricky situation.
13:11And we're hearing so much information.
13:15Everything is all over the place.
13:17We did a lie detector test.
13:22And both of their answers came back, like, obviously, I don't want to say positive, correct.
13:29She never slept with him.
13:31And they just kissed.
13:33It's like, I obviously am going to believe Jessie because she said that never happened.
13:36I feel like I'm in a tricky position because I want to stay true to MomTalk of supporting other women.
13:41But with Demi in this situation, it's confusing because I can't feel like I can support her
13:45because of the way she's treated Jessie and the way she's treated other women in our group.
13:49I feel like if MomTalk ever has a chance of being repaired,
13:51that Jessie and Demi just need to get in a room and sit down and address all these rumors face
13:55-to-face.
14:27It's so good.
14:30I'm so excited you weren't like that.
14:31Yes, that's right.
14:32I'm like, we're going back.
14:33Oh, my God.
14:33It's so nice to see you.
14:34Thank you.
14:36Oh, my gosh.
14:37I am so excited for this interview.
14:39I'm so excited to talk with Dina.
14:42I'm just going to tell my story, try to be myself, and, yeah, hope for the best.
14:48Have you danced?
14:49No.
14:50So I've never taken any dancing lessons.
14:52I'm just Hispanic.
14:54I just grew up dancing.
14:55Right.
14:55And, yeah.
14:57I always, like, tease everyone.
14:58I'm like, I'm the worst dancer in the group.
15:00Do you dance?
15:01Oh, girl, yes.
15:02I did dance on a professional team.
15:04It was a contemporary team because I graduated in fine arts and with an emphasis in dance.
15:08Where?
15:09At BYU.
15:10It was my life, and I loved it.
15:12What was your favorite dance?
15:12Oh, hip-hop, for sure.
15:14I'll shake that booty.
15:14I was a competitive dancer from 6 to 16.
15:17Oh, wow.
15:18Point, ballet, jazz, lyrical, contemporary, hip-hop.
15:21Aren't you all dancers?
15:23Maybe, like, TikTok dancing?
15:24Like, I can do little moves like that.
15:26Were you a dancer, too?
15:27I was not.
15:28I was sports.
15:29Really?
15:29What'd you play?
15:30Basketball.
15:30I did soccer as well.
15:32Really?
15:32Yeah.
15:33Do you watch our show?
15:34Love it.
15:34Yes, I've watched it since I was a little girl with my mom.
15:36I'm going to win the mayor ball.
15:38Oh, my gosh.
15:39I'm trying to hoist it.
15:40I'm like, I have it on my vision board.
15:41Oh, do you?
15:43Yeah.
15:44Oh, my God.
15:45A picture of me.
15:45I photoshopped.
15:46Thank you so much.
15:47I think the interview with Dina Katz went really well, I will say.
15:50We're supposed to hear back in a week or so.
15:52This will be interesting to see.
15:53Thank you again.
15:54Okay, we'll text you.
15:55Bye, baby.
15:56Bye.
15:57As much as I want this opportunity, if I don't get it, I hope it at least goes to someone
16:04who's
16:05here for the right reasons and who isn't here for just fame and fortune.
16:10So, our little show goes live in September.
16:13And I don't know, like, what your life is.
16:15It feels like you move a lot, but, like, you had a bill for it.
16:18I don't know when and where I need to be, Dina, and I'll be there.
16:21If you could move out, it would be better if you were to do the show.
16:24I'd give myself an 11 out of 10.
16:28It couldn't have gone better, honestly.
16:30If you end up doing the show, you get to go to New York for a big cast announcement.
16:34You mean when.
16:35When.
16:37Can't wait.
16:38I can't wait.
16:38Okay, I'll see you soon.
16:39Hopefully I don't flash the camera.
16:40My skirt's a little short.
16:50I know.
16:51Look at this spread.
16:53Ow!
16:55Oh, yes.
16:57We're going to get the nervous shit.
16:59Yeah, no, for real.
17:01We're such ladies.
17:02We're getting ready to leave for the Hulu Get Real event, and I'm really nervous to
17:06see Demi at this event, because our last run-in was at HydroJug, and it was very hostile.
17:13Fuck you, Demi.
17:14You know nothing about the situation.
17:16You know nothing.
17:17Demi, you know nothing.
17:19This is a work event.
17:20We work for Hulu.
17:21There are going to be other shows and other people there, and the last thing I want is
17:26for people to be like, okay, do not invite these reality people to anything, because
17:29they'll ruin it.
17:31Hello!
17:31How are you?
17:32Good to see you.
17:33Good to see you.
17:33All right.
17:34We need to chat at some point, but I'm like, you too.
17:36You do, too.
17:37Oh, my God.
17:39Oh, my God.
17:40How are you doing?
17:42I love it.
17:43Congratulations.
17:44Where's everyone else?
17:45Um.
17:45Demi is upstairs hiding from us in glam.
17:47Because she's scared.
17:49Yeah.
17:50Can I see what's going down?
17:51I need to know.
17:52Is it right now?
17:52No, it's really weird right now.
17:54So, wait.
17:54that you guys are not feeling her.
17:57Oh, I never felt her.
17:59I think all of our cats.
18:00I was the first.
18:01I've never felt her.
18:02That's a big accusation.
18:03It is.
18:04No, it's not okay.
18:05Like, we saw how flirty she was, too.
18:07Like, I'm sorry, but.
18:10Hannah is Marciano's ex-girlfriend.
18:12She and Marciano dated, I believe, for, like, three years on and off, and it was pretty
18:16up and down and pretty dramatic.
18:18Literally.
18:19And she was the one that said, let me fix you.
18:20Let's go talk.
18:21Yeah.
18:21She's like, if you're there, then.
18:23She's like, if you're there, then you're there.
18:25I know he's a lot of things.
18:29He's a lot of things, but I don't have him down his back in a lot.
18:32Yeah.
18:32No, same.
18:33He's not a sexual.
18:34He's not.
18:34He's not a predator.
18:36I'm not a huge fan of Marciano, but things did happen between Demi and Marciano, whether
18:43she wants to admit it or not.
18:44I mean, she was literally right next to him, like, grabbing his hands, like, googly eyes,
18:50like, talking, laughing.
18:51Like, it for sure did not seem like a married woman was talking to another single man with
18:59boundaries.
19:00We all know that Demi is very calculated.
19:02She knows she's been caught.
19:03They allegedly kissed.
19:05Like, off camera.
19:06What better way to kind of squash this conversation than to call yourself a victim?
19:14That's what I'm saying.
19:15He told her he was, like, madly in love with her, and I just feel like...
19:17He told me that that night that she left.
19:19He goes, she's just, like, it's what I'm looking for.
19:21Like, she told me she wants to divorce her husband.
19:24I'm like, okay.
19:25Oh, my God.
19:26He's, like, we're going to be together after this.
19:28Yeah.
19:29And it sucks that today we have to see her, because, like, this is all...
19:31All this drama is now happening.
19:33Yeah.
19:33Are you guys ready?
19:34Yes.
19:34We're good.
19:36Pretty mess.
19:38Is there a stripper pull in this one?
19:39Hopefully.
19:41Who's excited?
19:43We're so excited.
19:45Hello.
19:46How are you guys?
19:49She is nasty little bits.
19:51The group is definitely separated.
19:53Demi and Whitney are off on their own, and the rest of Mom's...
19:56Mom talk are together.
19:57I think it's a dysfunctional Mom talk right now,
20:00and I'm just glad I'm not in the car with Demi and Whitney.
20:03I just got glam done, and Demi was with me, so that was fun.
20:07In the tiny hotel room.
20:08In the tiny little space.
20:10We're this far apart getting our makeup done.
20:12I was like, this is great.
20:14And then they were, like, started talking about, like,
20:15all this, like, shit going on.
20:17Like, she still thinks she's sleeping Marcy on.
20:19I went back and forth with her on that.
20:20I was like, no.
20:21Yeah, did you address that?
20:22Yeah, and I was like, she did a lie to text or text.
20:24They both did it.
20:25They both were clean.
20:26Basically, long story short,
20:27Demi would say stuff and be like, you know,
20:29and, like, the other two in the group
20:30who have been assaulted referring to me and you.
20:32Oh.
20:32And she's like, you know,
20:34it's just hard when, like, they're not supporting you.
20:36And then, like, I gave...
20:37Oh, hell no.
20:38I looked over and gave, like, side-eye,
20:39and then she's like,
20:40and, like, you know, people who are victims
20:41almost, like, guilting me.
20:43Yes, that's what she's doing.
20:44She knows what she's doing
20:45because she knows that's a sucky thing to question.
20:48And you're not going to be like, oh, yeah.
20:49And I'm not going to question, like, a woman.
20:51Like, I've been in that position,
20:53so it's, like, hard for me to sound like...
20:54But she knows that's your soft spot.
20:55It's hard to say, yes, Demi's lying,
20:58because I obviously never want to say
21:00that someone's lying
21:02if they are a victim of something.
21:03But I think it's offensive for Demi
21:06to take my situation
21:08to almost put more validity
21:11in her situation.
21:13Obviously, I was a child
21:14when this was happening to me,
21:16and I just...
21:18I don't think it's fair
21:18to compare our two situations at all.
21:28You guys, we're here.
21:31Can I bring my drink with me?
21:32I love that I'm literally pregnant,
21:34and I'm still scared
21:35when I'm wearing white stuff
21:36that I'm going to start my period
21:37or something.
21:38I'm coming in.
21:40Yeah.
21:41Out my way.
21:42Can't nobody else stop my sway.
21:45Woo!
21:45Look for me.
21:46I'll be on the top top doing my thing.
21:49And that's the fit.
21:50That's the fit.
21:50I'm so excited to see
21:51all the Golden Bachelor bachelorettes
21:53sound like I'm in heaven.
21:55The Get Real event
21:55is a huge event
21:57that Hulu puts on with ABC
21:58to basically celebrate
22:00the cast of unscripted shows,
22:01and I'm so excited to be here.
22:04Slay!
22:04I feel like this is going to be
22:06such a fun night,
22:06and we're going to be able
22:07to connect with other people
22:08that are kind of in this same space
22:10that we're in.
22:10I feel like mom talk
22:11is very divided right now,
22:12but hopefully we can act
22:13like the grown-ass women
22:14that we are
22:15and get past it for one night.
22:17I'm coming in.
22:20I want to meet her show back.
22:22Oh, look at Taylor and them.
22:24Okay, we want to meet you guys.
22:26Okay, well, we have to go.
22:27We have to go.
22:28I'm not going to stay here.
22:29What do you mean?
22:30Are you coming on our show?
22:32Have you all seen it?
22:33I have.
22:34I saw it last night, yeah.
22:35You thought you could use
22:36some Jesus in your life?
22:37Yeah.
22:39And you actually like it?
22:41Yeah, I'm good.
22:42Yeah, that's funny.
22:43Isn't that?
22:43You've got a lot of flattering, yeah.
22:45You've got to get him in dad's house.
22:47Yeah.
22:47We have a star in our show.
22:49It seems to come out, so.
22:50All an asshole?
22:51Um, yes.
22:52Yes, that's the one.
22:54Appreciate it.
22:55By the way,
22:56I'm congratulated
22:57from being an asshole
22:58when I turned, like, 30.
22:59A very likable asshole, though.
23:01We will see you.
23:02Well, all your friends.
23:04Congratulations.
23:05Thank you.
23:06Oh, my God.
23:07You're so cute.
23:09Everybody's hot.
23:09There's so many babies.
23:11I know.
23:11It's the mermaid in us.
23:12Chloe and Scott,
23:13the fact that they were fans
23:15of our show
23:16was a cool thing
23:16to be like, whoa.
23:17Like, some of the most famous people
23:19in the world
23:19are watching our show.
23:20It's crazy.
23:20I mean, I don't even know
23:21what to think right now.
23:23Um, I can't even remember
23:24what I said or did.
23:25I know I was, like,
23:26bowing down at one point.
23:29I can't even believe we're here.
23:31That was iconic.
23:32Yeah.
23:32Look at them.
23:33They're getting into it.
23:34Yeah.
23:34Like, Hannah's there.
23:35Like, that's so awkward.
23:36Why is Whitney there
23:37like she even knows anything?
23:38I look over,
23:39and I see Demi and Whitney
23:40talking with Hannah,
23:41and it feels like
23:43they're talking about me
23:44with the gestures Demi's making
23:45and how passionate she's talking.
23:47So, that's from me
23:48to you, Jessie.
23:49It's like a trying.
23:50It says that, like,
23:51you guys have, like,
23:52this connection,
23:53and, like,
23:54you guys loved each other.
23:56Yeah.
23:57No.
23:58He told me
23:59all these things towards me.
24:01I never once reciprocated.
24:03even when he was like,
24:04it was love at first sight.
24:05Like, I was obsessed with you.
24:07Like, I didn't know what to do.
24:09I was just like,
24:09oh, man.
24:10Like, sorry.
24:11That's wild.
24:12Never was I like,
24:14I know I'm kind of fighting feelings,
24:15or, yeah,
24:16I was really fighting an attraction.
24:18I was not fighting one single thing.
24:20Like, yeah.
24:21I was genuinely trying
24:22to just be nice,
24:23do my job,
24:24and then afterwards,
24:25I was like,
24:25I gotta keep this guy at bay.
24:27I had no clue about it.
24:29Jessie,
24:29I had no clue
24:30that that was even going on.
24:32Are you allowed
24:33for, like,
24:34kiss other people?
24:35No.
24:35I mean,
24:36depending on your,
24:37if you're a swinger,
24:38or you have an open relationship,
24:40but, no.
24:41Are you kidding me?
24:41Brett would be so pissed
24:43if we even kissed on the mouth.
24:45Like, even just,
24:47he'd be livid,
24:49and I would never do that to him.
24:51So that's why
24:51it's a big deal to me,
24:52because I'm like,
24:53don't even,
24:53she just went like this.
24:54I was like,
24:56oh.
24:57Oh, I thought she went like this.
24:58She's trying to show up.
24:59what actually happened.
24:59I thought she went like this.
25:01Or, was she air-humping again?
25:03The energy's definitely awkward.
25:04It looks like she's acting out
25:05like a kiss,
25:06so I can tell that
25:07either she's trying to
25:09spin the narrative to them
25:10before it gets out,
25:12or just trying to get
25:14her truth out there.
25:15I don't know.
25:16It makes me upset,
25:17because we're at
25:18this professional event.
25:19I hope you're not
25:19slandering my name.
25:21And now it's clear to me
25:22that this is not
25:23the time or the place,
25:24but I do need to have
25:25a conversation with Demi.
25:26But I do want to say,
25:28like,
25:28let's retract the
25:29sexual characteristics
25:30from our family.
25:31No.
25:32No.
25:33No.
25:33No.
25:34Absolutely not.
25:39I just wanted to say bye.
25:40Bye.
25:41Bye.
25:42Thanks.
25:42We should probably have a
25:43conversation at some point.
25:44Probably tomorrow.
25:45Let's do it.
25:46The animosity that I'm getting
25:48from all of the women
25:49is just so extremely
25:51disappointing,
25:52and I can't help but feel
25:53like, man, not long ago,
25:57we were sharing our deepest
25:59feelings and being vulnerable
26:01with each other,
26:02and now I feel like we're
26:03complete strangers.
26:04I think that there is no
26:06other option at this point
26:07than to sit down and share
26:08my side of things.
26:09But when it comes to mom talk,
26:11I'm not ready to come back.
26:13I don't know if I have any
26:15friends here.
26:16That's how I'm feeling,
26:17honestly.
26:18Good to see you.
26:19You look amazing, by the way.
26:20Thank you.
26:21How are you doing?
26:22Oh, great.
26:22Thank you.
26:23I'm not going to see you
26:25again.
26:26Hi.
26:27Hi, I'm Macy.
26:29I'm Macy.
26:33We're here to celebrate
26:34mom talk.
26:35We've accomplished this
26:36together, empowerment,
26:38all of the positive things,
26:40but the coldness that I'm
26:41feeling from all of these
26:42women is exactly why I've
26:43given up on this.
26:44I'm the only one in the
26:46group that's been supportive
26:47of Demi, or has even wanted
26:49to hear Demi out.
26:50It's so weird.
26:53Friends should be the ones
26:54who give each other the most
26:55grace, but that's not what's
26:57happening.
26:57It's just, there's a divide.
27:00There's a huge divide right
27:01now.
27:19I'm dying.
27:20I know.
27:20I mean, I don't know,
27:21because you're pregnant,
27:22so it's worse, but it's terrible.
27:24I'll be fine, though.
27:25Today was definitely amazing.
27:27In fact, it was so great.
27:29I think I spent the whole day
27:30running on adrenaline.
27:31You have the drinks menu.
27:33You have some nice mocktails.
27:35It definitely seems like
27:36there's two groups.
27:38There's Demi and Whitney,
27:38and then there's us.
27:40And even though it sucks,
27:42I'm just grateful that we were
27:44able to get through the day
27:45and that it could still be
27:47a great experience.
27:48meeting the moon.
27:49How did you guys feel about
27:50today in general?
27:51I think it went better than I
27:53was thinking it was gonna go.
27:55She said hi to me and so did
27:56Whitney, but I don't know.
27:57It just feels disingenuous now
28:00because now that the
28:01friendships are gone,
28:01it just feels, I don't know,
28:03I'm not used to having
28:04friendships that are business
28:05related, so it's just weird.
28:07Right
28:08I don't know if I can do this whole week
28:11Stagecoach
28:11It'll be fun
28:13Stagecoach is a country music festival
28:16In the middle of the desert
28:17I'm so excited
28:19I am just looking forward to being with my friends
28:22Hanging out
28:23And honestly just having fun experiences
28:26With my girlfriends
28:27So the brand
28:28The one we have to post for them
28:30They want stuff from Whitney
28:32And so they're expecting her to be at the house
28:35What?
28:38No they're not
28:39I didn't think she was going
28:41We have this house we're going to stay at for Stagecoach
28:44And it's being hosted by a brand
28:45Brands don't care if MomTalk is getting along or not
28:50When you make a deal with a brand
28:52You're obligated to hold up your end of that deal
28:55How do you guys feel?
28:56At the end of the day
28:57I can ignore her
28:58I'm not Whitney's biggest fan
29:00But she hasn't done me very very dirty
29:02So I'm just like whatever
29:03She's done me so dirty
29:04It's just not worth my energy
29:05I could be around freaking anyone
29:09And make it work
29:09I'm one of the only women in the group
29:12That still has somewhat of a friendship with Whitney
29:16I would say we're on fairly good terms
29:19I also think I can relate to her in some ways
29:23I know what it's like to feel on the outs with MomTalk
29:25I just don't know how to navigate this moving forward
29:29Like she's going to be at things
29:30How are we handling this?
29:31Like we need to make sure everyone's comfortable
29:34I'm planning on talking to Whitney
29:37Whitney puts up this front and this tough exterior
29:41I think on the inside she truly does care a lot
29:45And she does want to be here
29:46Sorry
29:47I think just sometimes friend breakups can like genuinely be harder
29:53Than like boyfriend breakups and spousal breakups
29:58So I want to make it a safe space for her to do that
30:01And maybe to let that guard down a little bit
30:03Too pregnant for this
30:19So we've decided we're going to leave it up, right?
30:21Yes
30:21Because I know everyone's going to have their hair down and curled
30:25Hello
30:26What's up, bitch?
30:28Oh, gosh
30:28I know that's probably what you say behind me, too
30:34No, it's not
30:35I was coming to ask you, are you going to stagecoach?
30:38I wasn't planning on it
30:39Is Demi going?
30:40Are you guys like
30:41I know you guys are friends
30:42No, Demi's not going
30:43Okay
30:44She's for sure not going
30:45I just like feel so weird after our last meeting with everyone
30:49Like I think it'd be so weird if I went
30:51Well, I will say that I do feel pretty
30:54Like I felt really bad after the meeting, I'm not going to lie
30:57Because I don't want to say that we were attacking you
31:00But I'm sure it felt that way
31:01That you were like attacked by all of us at once
31:04Regardless if we're valid in our reasons and vice versa
31:07It doesn't take away the feelings you have from it, right?
31:09So
31:09I appreciate that
31:10I do want to say that I am sorry that we came all at once
31:15I don't want to speak for them
31:16But I think their thing was that they just wanted to hear
31:18What is your intention?
31:19I think that's what they all wanted to know
31:20I was very clear with everyone, yeah
31:22The only reason I came back to film
31:24Was because I was given the opportunity to audition for Dancing with the Stars
31:28I felt like I said all of that with everyone
31:31Was there something that I missed?
31:32No, you did admit that
31:34Which is, again, good
31:35I mean, that's
31:36I think what we wanted was at least tell us why
31:39I did make that effort
31:40And it's okay
31:43We're co-workers at this point
31:45I mean, sure
31:46I would love a world where
31:48We were back to where things used to be
31:51But
31:51I mean, a girl can dream
31:53But that's just not how it is right now
31:54But again, if this is like
31:56It's still a business and whatnot
31:57And you're doing it, correct?
31:59So
31:59If you're in this business
32:01We're going to be at so many things together
32:03And it's like
32:03Do we want this awkwardness?
32:05Or do we want to just like
32:06We can work as co-workers at least, right?
32:08Like
32:09Because at the end of the day
32:10I think this is all it is going to be
32:11Right?
32:11At this point
32:13Yeah
32:13Even though Whitney does
32:16Say she's here for work
32:18And only work
32:18I do know that
32:19There's this softer side of her
32:22That she is protecting
32:24But the friendships really do matter to Whitney
32:27And so I just want to open it up
32:29To all of us
32:30To her
32:30To MomTalk
32:31And so we can come together
32:32Okay
32:33Good luck
32:35Thank you
32:35Is this yours?
32:36I was just playing
32:37Diddling with it
32:37Someone's
32:38No, I was
32:39Not going to shake your hand
32:41Oh, what were you doing?
32:42I was going to pull you in
32:44To give you a hug
32:45Not to shake your hand
32:46What?
33:03Oh, it's so cute
33:04It is so pretty
33:05I love the purple
33:06The lavender
33:07I'm like
33:08Does it match my eyes?
33:09Should I wear the purple dress?
33:11Yeah
33:12The view is insane
33:14Trina and Jessie's going to get here
33:16Do you think the conversation's over
33:17Between Jessie and Jessie right now?
33:19I mean, I hope so
33:19Because she's supposed to be here
33:20I was hoping she'd be here by now
33:21I just feel like it would go so long
33:24Jessie's meeting with Demi right now
33:26To set the record straight
33:27About Marciana
33:28There's so many, like, little details
33:30To hash out
33:30There's so many details
33:31There's a lot to unpack
33:33Do you think there's any world
33:34Where, like, again
33:36If Demi pulls a Whitney
33:37Of, like, I'm ready to come back
33:38In the group and do this
33:39Do you think there's any world
33:40Where Jessie's, like
33:42Oh, no
33:42But I think it depends on
33:45The context of the reality
33:47Of the situation that's happening
33:49Like, they can agree
33:50And be like
33:51Like, okay, like
33:52I see your side
33:53And, like, these are the facts
33:54And, like, I'm sorry I did this
33:55I think if it's like that
33:56Then sure
33:57But if it's not
33:58Then I don't see that
34:00I already know
34:00All of us will have our guard up
34:01And be like
34:02I don't trust her
34:23I asked Demi to meet up today
34:25Because I'm really sick of her
34:26Spreading the rumor
34:27That I slept with Marciano
34:28And I need her to know
34:29From me that it's not true
34:31It just feels really unfair
34:32That Demi is continuing
34:33To spread this rumor
34:34Because she doesn't know
34:35The details of what's going on now
34:37She's just continuing
34:38To perpetuate this narrative
34:40Without actually knowing the facts
34:41I'm hoping that
34:42Since we were so close
34:43At one point
34:43We can sit down face to face
34:45And she'll know
34:46That I'm telling the truth
34:47Hello
34:58All right
34:59How do you want to start this?
35:01I know
35:01I thought of a million different ways
35:04Um
35:06I'm not gonna lie
35:07I'm really nervous
35:08She knows how to bulldoze you
35:10In conversation
35:11She has a way of making people
35:12Believe her
35:13She's manipulative
35:14She's strong-armed
35:15And she's passionate
35:16So it's gonna be
35:17Very interesting
35:18To see how she tries
35:19To spin things
35:20Because I know
35:21She's gonna try
35:21To discredit my story
35:23Best way to start
35:24Okay
35:25There is one thing
35:26I do want to clear up
35:26The only reason
35:27I ever brought up
35:28You having sex
35:29With Marciano
35:30Was because he told me
35:32Multiple times
35:33That that's what happened
35:34It didn't happen
35:35Like genuinely
35:36We both took a lie detector
35:37And we both said
35:38We didn't have sex
35:38And it came up true
35:39Like it did not happen
35:40And at this point
35:41I have laid this
35:43All out on the line
35:43I'm owning my shit
35:44I'm telling my whole story
35:46If I knew that we had sex
35:47And it was gonna come out
35:48I would just say it now
35:49Because I'm already
35:49Blowing up my life
35:50I'm just confused
35:51Because the energy
35:52That I'm picking up on
35:54And the body language
35:55Is telling me
35:56A completely different story
35:57For some reason
35:58I'm just not believing it
36:00Jessie just come out with it
36:02Like you'll feel
36:02So much better
36:03Just come out
36:04And tell me
36:04What happened
36:05So I genuinely
36:06Did not have sex with him
36:08And it makes me sad
36:09That he said that
36:09But he did tell us
36:11You guys kissed
36:11So I'm hearing that
36:13Yeah
36:13False
36:14So did he kiss you
36:15On the cheek goodbye
36:16That day
36:17Nope
36:17He kissed me on truth or dare
36:19That's it
36:19That's it
36:20It was just very confusing
36:21So it's like
36:21Okay if you guys did kiss
36:23Then that is an assault
36:24Because you kissed him
36:24The next day
36:25You know
36:25Well that still could be assault
36:27Even if I did kiss him
36:28The next day
36:29Which I didn't
36:29There was not a kiss
36:31In the mouth
36:32There was two ass grabs
36:34I genuinely feel
36:36There was like
36:37Some flirtiness
36:38And even if you didn't
36:39Do anything wrong
36:40Like I feel like
36:40Maybe he got the wrong idea
36:41And then you continue
36:42To talk to him for months
36:43If he actually assaulted you
36:44Why did you continue
36:45To talk to him
36:46And why did you send him
36:47Pictures of
36:47And why was
36:48Talking to him
36:49Going into this meeting
36:50With Demi
36:51I wanted to have
36:52My facts straight
36:53We have heard so much
36:54From Marciano
36:54About his side of things
36:56With her
36:56But I needed some
36:57Tangible proof
36:58So I did ask him
36:59To send a few
37:00Screenshots of text messages
37:01They had
37:02That maybe alluded
37:03To more happening
37:04Some of those messages
37:05Were a little bit
37:06Inappropriate
37:07Kind of flirty
37:08Inviting him to Utah
37:09Saying suggestive things
37:11So all of this
37:12Put together
37:13Shows that there's
37:14Like a repeated pattern
37:15Of being overly friendly
37:16And really flirty
37:17With him
37:18Whenever they talk
37:18There was one conversation
37:20Where was a part of it
37:22And I'm not sleeping
37:24Yeah
37:25Like you sent him
37:26A picture of her
37:27And then there's
37:28A photo or a video
37:29Of her praying
37:32I'm just saying
37:33If he assaulted you
37:34Why are you sending
37:34Photos of your daughter
37:35To him
37:35Well there was
37:36Multiple things
37:37That looking back
37:39I was like
37:40Why am I still
37:40Talking to this guy
37:41Like even to Brett
37:42That's the thing
37:43That is the variable
37:44That matters in this moment
37:45Is that there was
37:46Not one text
37:47Not one phone call
37:48Not one FaceTime
37:49That Brett wasn't aware of
37:50I wasn't even worried
37:50About that
37:51It's the text
37:52That seemed kind of flirty
37:53Like your name
37:54In my phone
37:54Is now going to be
37:55Marciano baby
37:56Because that's what
37:56Calls you
37:57And there were
37:58Like story replies
37:59Where you're like
37:59Oysters taste like cum
38:00And there was
38:01Like little water
38:01And like
38:02I have the text
38:03I can show you
38:04Oysters taste like cum
38:05He had a story
38:07Of oysters
38:07And you responded
38:08And you were like
38:09Ew
38:09And then he was like
38:10Oh come on
38:10You're like
38:11That's the same thing
38:11As swallowing cum
38:12And then you sent
38:13All these emojis
38:13For me
38:14The behavior
38:15Does not add up
38:16Why did you continue
38:17To have a relationship
38:18There's no right way
38:19To handle those situations
38:20In my mind
38:21It literally was a case
38:22Of keep your friends
38:22Close side of base closer
38:23Where I was like
38:24But why
38:24Because if you didn't
38:25Do anything wrong
38:26What were you afraid
38:26Of him doing
38:27Of what he's doing
38:28Spinning things
38:29To try to get clout
38:31To try to
38:31Make things look
38:33A certain way
38:33I think the thing
38:34That was so frustrating
38:35For me was that
38:36I confided in you
38:37In what happened
38:38With Marciano
38:40And then you had
38:41A physical and emotional
38:42Affair with the guy
38:44Yeah but
38:44As like my best friend
38:45I get that
38:46But from my perspective
38:47Like you were so
38:48Friendly with him
38:49So I genuinely didn't
38:50Feel like you felt
38:51That way about him
38:52I'm only hearing now
38:53That he's her alleged abuser
38:54Now that it's coming out publicly
38:56But she's told me
38:57And the girl so many times
38:58That she's not a victim
38:59I did not go out
39:01And intentionally
39:01Find someone who abused me
39:03And decided to kiss him
39:04And that's how she's
39:05Trying to make it seem
39:06Right now
39:06I mean you weren't
39:07Forced to text him
39:08And call him
39:09And have FaceTimes
39:09And like you weren't
39:10Forced to do that
39:11But that's victim shaming
39:13There's not one way
39:15To handle this situation
39:17Everyone is going to
39:18Handle these types
39:19Of situations differently
39:20You never deserve
39:22Unwanted touch
39:23No matter what it looks like
39:24No matter what your
39:25Relationship was before
39:27Or after
39:28Unwanted touch
39:29Is unwanted touch
39:31No I understand
39:32Your perspective
39:32I'm not trying to
39:33Victim shame you
39:34Like if he grabbed you
39:35Without you asking
39:35That's obviously inappropriate
39:36And not something
39:38That's okay
39:38Yeah
40:07At this point I feel like
40:09I know
40:21We're heading to stagecoach
40:23Country music festival
40:24Look
40:26She's here already
40:28Taylor and Dakota
40:29Are like all over each other
40:30Bro
40:31Seeing Taylor and Dakota
40:32Is giving me the massive ick
40:34She posted stories
40:36Yeah go look
40:37To the people that were made
40:38Aware of these events
40:39And watched me cry
40:40Not once have I seen her
40:41Shed a tear
40:42Oh my god
40:43My dress
40:43Can we just go to bed
40:44All this sexual trauma
40:46It's having a huge effect
40:47On our marriage
40:48There are times
40:48When I'm just feeling done
40:49With it
40:50I just feel like
40:51It's getting harder
41:28Of course
41:33How can I go to bed
41:34Of course
41:34There are times
41:34Things
41:34Things
41:35Sous-titrage FR ?
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