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00:00C'est parti !
00:30...anxious relationship type person.
00:31Like, I just want to be seen.
00:32And I felt like I reacted extremely poorly.
00:35I wanted the girls to come to brunch today
00:37so I could ask them what happened.
00:39I mean, it was at my house,
00:41so I feel like I deserve to know the details.
00:42The way he started out,
00:44it honestly felt like a church meeting.
00:45He's like, thank you guys for coming.
00:48No, he's like using a church voice.
00:50It's like this calm, like quiet.
00:52It was like, thank you guys.
00:53I really appreciate it.
00:54Things have been really hard.
00:56Like, I was like...
00:56Jordan was crying, and so he was.
00:58Oh, yeah, he did.
00:59Yeah, I was holding back laughter
01:00because there were so many different times
01:04that he would be like,
01:05yeah, and like,
01:06I've just been talking to my friends about it,
01:08Dakota and Zach.
01:09Yeah, yeah.
01:10And they were like,
01:11ooh, that's a problem.
01:13Well,
01:15I could see when they're like,
01:16if it's reverse,
01:18if Jace and Zach had an affair with the same girl,
01:22and we were to meet up and like,
01:23go ask her questions,
01:25would you guys be upset?
01:26I would have a really hard time with that.
01:28You know,
01:28Macy and Mikayla feel some sort of way about Jordan,
01:31and they're protective,
01:32and that's great for them,
01:33but I think we shouldn't be bashing her husband
01:36if that's what they're trying to do is mend this.
01:38Like, we should be supportive of both of them,
01:39but understand both sides.
01:41Something I learned in therapy
01:42is we should use some logic
01:44and not just emotion, right?
01:45And I think that goes for all of us
01:47in all our relationships.
01:48He did say,
01:49I've been controlling.
01:51I was awful to her.
01:52I was like,
01:53that's a man that loves her.
01:55I think that Taylor tends to defend Jordan
01:57because he is trying to make changes,
02:00and she wishes Dakota would do that.
02:02So she just sees any man
02:04maybe working on things as a good thing,
02:06but even if Jordan's trying,
02:08he has been emotionally abusive,
02:09and it sometimes feels like
02:10she just forgets about that.
02:13Jordan is making strides.
02:14Like, I will say,
02:14I have noticed some changes
02:16and said there's still behaviors that aren't okay,
02:18but like,
02:18after you guys all left the barbecue,
02:20he like,
02:20put the kids to bed,
02:21he like,
02:21massaged my feet.
02:22He was like,
02:23being really sweet and helpful.
02:24And I was like,
02:25this is great,
02:26but why weren't you like this before?
02:28Because if that would have happened
02:29six months ago or a year ago,
02:31it would have been like so different.
02:33Jordan and I are still separated.
02:35He stays at the house two days,
02:36and then I stay at a hotel,
02:38and then we switch.
02:39I feel emotional one day
02:41and numb the next,
02:42but ultimately,
02:43I've done a lot of self-reflection
02:44and realizing what I've done wrong.
02:46So I feel grateful
02:48that Jordan's trying to make a change.
02:50So by the way,
02:51Miranda's birthday party
02:53is on Tuesday.
02:54And so Layla told me
02:55that we're all doing
02:56like a Miranda look-alike.
02:57So we're all dressed like Miranda.
02:59Should I go blonde?
03:00Yeah, no,
03:00should we get wig?
03:01I don't know if I have the body
03:02for that right now.
03:03I know, right?
03:04I'm not trying to wear
03:04like low-rise jeans.
03:06She has a lot of the waves.
03:07She does do that,
03:08like the Cripper.
03:08I'm really excited
03:10for Miranda's birthday party.
03:12Miranda is now
03:12part of MomTalk officially.
03:14We all seem like
03:15we're cordial right now
03:16and friendly,
03:17which I love.
03:18I'm hoping we can kind of
03:19keep this positive energy
03:20moving forward.
03:21You know her style
03:22the best, I feel like.
03:23I'm still looking at her Instagram
03:24and kind of like
03:24trying to match the line.
03:25Kayla's like,
03:25I actually know what she looks like
03:26better with the clothes off.
03:27Oh, I know both, but...
03:30Taylor's like,
03:31I'll do the naked version.
03:32Yeah.
03:34Come ye saints
03:36and come ye sinners
03:41Alleluia!
03:42Listen up
03:43I'm the one
03:46you've been dreaming of
03:47I've got everything
03:49you could ever want
03:51Try me in your sleep
03:53I'll bring you to your knees
03:55Baby, you're gonna believe
04:26Baby, you're gonna be
04:29You know I work hard
04:31Play hard
04:31What's this in a bad gut
04:33Yes, you be in my arm
04:34Drive it like a race car
04:36Oh my gosh, you guys
04:38the baby goes
04:39Baby, they're so cute
04:42Do you want to ride
04:43those with me?
04:45Oh, look at that
04:46We should ride it
04:47Should you ride it?
04:49I gathered all of us girls
04:50so we could have
04:51a lighthearted day
04:52because there's been
04:53so much drama
04:53with Jessie, Jordan, Demi
04:55and I honestly wanted
04:56to lighten the heaviness
04:57and I thought
04:58what would be better
04:59than little baby goats
05:00and I also have some
05:02really exciting news
05:03to share with MomTalk
05:04Oh, they're hungry
05:05I know
05:06Okay, so
05:07Hold on
05:07I'm hungry
05:08I'm scared
05:09I'm scared
05:16I got all my food
05:18because I got scared
05:19The big ones
05:20The big ones are terrifying
05:20and they're kind of ugly
05:22But I feel like
05:23this is definitely
05:23exactly what MomTalk
05:24needed right now
05:25to get out into nature
05:26do some bonding
05:27and kind of just get
05:28our minds off of
05:29everything that's happening
05:30Oh my God
05:31Get the big ones
05:32with the scary horns
05:33out of here
05:33I want the baby ones
05:35He's okay
05:36Oh, hi
05:37You guys
05:38I have some crazy news
05:40You're pregnant
05:41No, she's on her period
05:42Why is that always
05:44the go-to?
05:45Because there's
05:45been five pregnancies
05:47I'm not pregnant
05:48Okay
05:49Thank God
05:49Okay, what is it?
05:50What is it?
05:51Our manager called me
05:52this morning
05:52and she said that
05:53Dancing with the Stars
05:54wants to choose
05:55one of us
05:56to go on
05:57No way
05:58Wait, that would be fun
06:00They're gonna interview
06:01I think next week
06:02when we're in L.A.
06:04I've watched Dancing with the Stars
06:05since I was a little girl
06:06with my mom
06:06so this would be
06:07such a dream
06:07I feel like it'd be
06:08a fun opportunity
06:09for me to kind of
06:10find another cool outlet
06:12outside of MomTalk
06:13but I think at the end of the day
06:14whoever gets it
06:15is going to be really lucky
06:16But what about
06:16the pregnant girls?
06:17Like, wait
06:18you could technically
06:19because it would be
06:20following
06:20I can't work out
06:21for six weeks
06:21Okay, so they're eliminated
06:23Well, it's three months
06:24postpartum
06:25I knew she would
06:27I ran the New York City
06:28Marathon two months
06:29after I gave birth
06:30with the weekend
06:30I knew she would be
06:31the one to say
06:32I'm still gonna do it
06:33Dancing with the Stars
06:34has been that one show
06:36that I've always
06:37wanted to be a part of
06:38What Dancing with the Stars
06:39is, is salsa
06:41Like, I was raised
06:42off of salsa
06:43I never had any
06:44dancing lessons
06:45I just love dancing
06:46I definitely think
06:48Dancing with the Stars
06:49could reignite
06:51that light
06:52I lost
06:53with going through
06:53everything that I went through
06:54Everyone start practicing
06:57Okay, so
06:58my birthday party
07:02I invited
07:03Whitney
07:05She did send me
07:06a voice message
07:06the other day
07:07What did she say to you?
07:08Well, she was like
07:09apologizing
07:10Wait, I thought
07:10you and Whitney were good
07:11so what was she apologizing for?
07:12Yeah, Whitney and I
07:13were fine
07:13but when she left
07:15MomTalk
07:15it kind of felt like
07:16it was crickets
07:16and I told her that
07:17To be honest
07:18I experienced
07:18the exact same thing
07:19that Miranda's
07:20talking about
07:21The minute she gets
07:22what she wants
07:22it's automatic crickets
07:24I'm really conflicted
07:26with my relationship
07:27with Whitney
07:28because a couple
07:29of months ago
07:30she really was
07:31the only person
07:31that was there for me
07:32during the lowest
07:34point of my life
07:36but the minute
07:37I left MomTalk
07:39I never heard from her
07:40and then she became
07:41best friends
07:42with Demi
07:42the one person
07:43that was bullying me
07:45during that time
07:46it felt like
07:47that was calculated
07:48for her to rejoin
07:50MomTalk
07:50I just felt like
07:52a little weird
07:53after that
07:54But I did tell her
07:55that she was welcome
07:56to come by my birthday party
07:58if she wanted to
07:59There's no way
08:01I understand why
08:02the girls feel
08:03a certain way
08:04about Whitney
08:04but I think it's important
08:05that we try
08:06and maintain
08:07a somewhat cordial
08:08relationship
08:09especially because
08:10we have a press tour
08:11in L.A. coming up
08:11and whether they like it
08:12or not
08:13both Whitney and Demi
08:14are going to be there
08:14so
08:15You might as well
08:16invite Demi too
08:17I did not invite Demi
08:19Let's invite Demi
08:19while we're at it
08:21Whitney's going to
08:21bring her as her plus line
08:22I swear to God
08:36Hey babe
08:38and what do you need
08:39I just need you
08:40to make the chicken
08:40it's all prepped
08:41I just need you
08:41to cook it
08:42Yeah
08:44Hello
08:45Come on in
08:47I'm excited to eat
08:49Ever since the barbecue
08:50I've been thinking
08:51a lot about my marriage
08:52My sous chef
08:54Yes chef
08:55Seeing everything
08:56going on with
08:57Jessie and Jordan
08:57it's made me
08:58a little bit scared
08:59because I'm like
09:00I don't want this
09:00to happen to my marriage
09:01so I wanted to go
09:02over to Macy's house
09:03and get a little bit
09:04of advice on issues
09:05that I've been dealing with
09:06with Jace in our marriage
09:08right now
09:08Do you want to finish this?
09:09I need to get
09:10some stuff done real quick
09:11Yeah
09:12I'm tired
09:12I know
09:13Same
09:14There's so many emotions
09:15and we're talking about
09:16so many people's
09:17really deep issues
09:19that I get home
09:20and I'm like
09:20I just have no energy
09:21I just want to like
09:22do nothing
09:23I know Jace is kind of
09:24like more emotional
09:25to kind of like Jacob
09:26where they like
09:26need like the emotional
09:27connection
09:28Yeah
09:29Is it hard for him
09:30when you're like
09:31come home
09:31you don't want to
09:32do anything
09:32or talk
09:33Well not even
09:33like the talking
09:34it's like
09:34I feel like
09:35our sexual relationship
09:36has been struggling
09:37for a while now
09:40I don't know
09:41what it is
09:41Like no libido
09:42No libido
09:43but I feel like
09:43I haven't had a libido
09:44in a long time
09:45Yeah
09:45Jace
09:46he like goes out
09:47of his way
09:47for like all my needs
09:48even though he can
09:49bring it up
09:50so gently
09:51it almost feels
09:52like an attack on me
09:53because I'm like
09:54I know that this
09:54is my issue
09:55Yeah
09:55Literally like
09:56we never fight
09:57out money
09:57we never fight
09:58about parenting
09:58we never fight
09:59about anything
09:59it's like only
10:00the sexual stuff
10:01and it's not even
10:02like fighting about it
10:03it's just like
10:03I have this like
10:05anger around it
10:06Yeah
10:09I've been going
10:09to a lot of therapy
10:10and I feel like
10:11I've made a lot
10:11of strides
10:12with my past
10:14sexual abuse
10:15but as far
10:16as the intimacy issues
10:17I feel like
10:18it's been one area
10:19that I haven't been
10:20able to progress
10:21at all
10:22and I feel like
10:23it's starting to become
10:24a really big issue
10:24in our marriage now
10:25Jace is so amazing
10:27with taking care
10:28of my needs
10:28and I feel really guilty
10:29that I can't do that
10:30for him
10:30and I feel like
10:31we're both kind of
10:32at this crossroad
10:33of we don't know
10:34how to move forward
10:35right now
10:35I just think
10:36there's a lot of shame
10:37I think that's why
10:37I'm angry
10:38when he brings it up
10:39Do you know
10:39what your needs are?
10:40Do you think
10:40you need to figure out
10:41what your sexual needs are?
10:43Because I feel like
10:44for me once I found
10:45it more enjoyable
10:46it was like
10:46oh like
10:48this is like fun
10:49right?
10:49I definitely can relate
10:51to Michaela
10:51because I myself
10:52have been through
10:52intimacy issues
10:53in my marriage
10:54due to past
10:55sexual abuse
10:55and trauma
10:56when I was dating
10:57my abuser
10:57the relationship
10:59got emotionally abusive
11:00verbally abusive
11:01and eventually
11:02it turned physical
11:02and then I met Jacob
11:04a couple years later
11:05so even if you're
11:06in a healthy relationship
11:07with someone
11:08you feel safe with
11:09it still can be
11:10really hard
11:10where you almost
11:11resent anything sexual
11:13yeah
11:14well I think that's
11:14what's hard too
11:15is again
11:15I still have that
11:16mindset of like
11:17this isn't for me
11:18like
11:20I'm not gonna cry
11:22you can cry
11:26I think it's just hard
11:33it's just like
11:34so good to me
11:35yeah
11:36I'm like
11:36I wanna be able
11:37to do it for him
11:38but I just
11:39don't know how
11:43what do you think
11:44maybe a different
11:46therapist
11:46or maybe
11:47testing things
11:48or like
11:48I think so
11:49yeah
11:51this sexual intimacy
11:52is something
11:53that's the most
11:54triggering for me
11:54it's really hard
11:56to even just
11:57open up that chapter
11:58but I know
11:58that I have to
11:59because I could risk
12:00losing the most
12:01important person
12:02in my life
12:02I think it might be
12:03time to try
12:04a new type of therapy
12:05to see if that
12:06will give me
12:07any results
12:10this is trauma chicken
12:11this looks so good
12:12actually
12:26and the drama
12:27begins
12:28now
12:29thank you
12:31thank you so much
12:32appreciate it
12:35oh
12:39I'm sorry
12:40what
12:40hello
12:46I've talked to
12:47Miranda
12:48but all of the
12:49other women
12:49it's probably
12:50been about
12:51two months
12:52I wanna say
12:53I just moved
12:54to St. George
12:55all of my family's
12:56there
12:56and obviously
12:57the distance
12:58makes it harder
12:59for me to
12:59be in mom talk
13:01hi
13:02there's so much
13:02to talk about
13:03oh my gosh
13:03so much to talk
13:04about
13:04there has been
13:05some discussion
13:06of when people
13:08were renegotiating
13:09for season three
13:11or something
13:11about Oscar
13:12tickets
13:13no
13:15that's bullshit
13:16okay
13:17and then
13:17what about
13:18a role
13:19and a scripted
13:20that I did
13:21ask for
13:22yeah
13:23a girl knows
13:24what she wants
13:25it's been a shit show
13:26like I got this
13:27half-assed vote
13:28to be back
13:29in a mom talk
13:29that really pissed
13:30me off
13:31I feel good
13:32about Whitney
13:34I'm fine
13:34with it
13:35I don't honestly
13:36care if you are
13:37or not in the group
13:37I mean I'm fine
13:38to let her in
13:38I'm not saying
13:39I'm gonna be like
13:39friends with her
13:40or anything
13:40at this point
13:41I don't think
13:41I have to say
13:42anything
13:42I think everyone
13:42knows where I stand
13:43majority rule
13:44she's back in
13:45confetti
13:47so I know
13:48you're very mad
13:50and you didn't
13:52want to film
13:52anymore
13:53yeah
13:53so
13:54why the fuck
13:54am I filming
13:55what changed
13:56so
13:57I just found out
13:58if I came back
13:58to film
13:59then
14:00I can audition
14:01for Dancing
14:02with the Stars
14:04next week
14:05I know
14:06what
14:07after last season
14:09I did decide
14:10to step away
14:10from the show
14:11but I never
14:11quit mom talk
14:12I was always
14:13and am
14:14still a part
14:15of that group
14:15I just really
14:16needed a break
14:17but then
14:18I heard from my team
14:19Dancing with the Stars
14:20was going to cast
14:21someone from
14:22the Secret Lives
14:23of Mormon Wives
14:24and
14:26that's a motivator
14:27I'll come back
14:28for that
14:29that's amazing
14:30I'm like really excited
14:31huge
14:31you deserve that
14:32I've always been
14:33a huge fan
14:33of Dancing
14:34with the Stars
14:34I just feel like
14:36they're one big family
14:37and who wouldn't
14:38want to be a part
14:39of that
14:39I love you guys
14:40and I appreciate you
14:42because
14:42it do be lonely
14:44in that group
14:44let me tell you
14:45you just need love
14:47do you want
14:48a friendship
14:49yeah
14:50but I'm clearly
14:51not welcome
14:52in this group
14:53and I'm not
14:54going to be like
14:54please be my friend
14:56of course I miss
14:57the sisterhood
14:58I worked my ass
14:59off trying to get
15:00it back
15:00but that's the
15:01thing about
15:01relationships
15:02is it takes
15:03two to have
15:04one
15:04anyways so
15:05Miranda invite
15:06me to her
15:06birthday party
15:06I'm going to
15:07show up
15:07because I was
15:08invited to it
15:08and
15:10we're all
15:10going to be
15:11together next
15:11week
15:11even to me
15:13where
15:13in LA
15:15oh for
15:15audition for
15:17Dancing
15:17with the Stars
15:17and we have
15:18press
15:18so
15:19we'll see
15:20what happens
15:35we had this
15:37quick influencer
15:38event with
15:38Hydro Jug
15:39before we're
15:39leaving to
15:40go to LA
15:40for a press
15:41this is so
15:42cute
15:44this was an
15:45event that we
15:45were planning
15:46on having
15:46production at
15:47so as soon
15:48as we see
15:48Demi is there
15:49we all get
15:49out our phones
15:50oh fuck
15:51make sure
15:52you get
15:52on your
15:52iPhone
15:53okay I will
15:53my mom and
15:54sister came
15:55to the event
15:55with me
15:55so I told
15:56them to have
15:57their phones
15:57on standby
15:58we're kind
15:58of just
15:58prepared
15:59because we
15:59knew shit
15:59was going
16:00to go down
16:00also we're
16:01at an event
16:01with all
16:02influencers
16:02and everyone
16:03has their
16:03phone ready
16:04so it won't
16:05be hard
16:06to get
16:06all that
16:06footage
16:07so we're
16:08at this event
16:08some of the
16:09Mormon lives
16:11were here
16:11what special
16:12calls the
16:13secret lives
16:14of modern lives
16:15and they were
16:15just inviting
16:18are you going
16:19to say hi
16:19no
16:20no are you
16:22absolutely not
16:22she's actually
16:23dead to me
16:24no thanks
16:25there's no reason
16:25yeah
16:30with how it
16:31went last time
16:31when I saw her
16:32at the jet set
16:32event I can only
16:33imagine how good
16:34this is going to
16:34go right now
16:35I'm going to
16:36go do a live
16:36actually
16:37tell everyone
16:37about Jessie
16:39no you're not
16:40no you're not
16:41tell her
16:41Demi shut the
16:42fuck up
16:43no you're not
16:43Demi what the
16:44fuck
16:45I'm definitely
16:46mad with Demi
16:46right now
16:47especially after
16:48learning the results
16:48from the lie
16:49detector test
16:50but this is
16:50a work event
16:51I'm going to be
16:52on my best
16:52behavior regardless
16:53of what Demi does
16:54and avoid
16:55causing a scene
16:55can I get
16:57the iris
16:58mocktail
16:59okay thank you
17:00I'm going to try
17:02it
17:02you hate it
17:05then you just
17:05get rid of it
17:09I'm scared
17:09they're going to
17:10kill me
17:12can I talk to you
17:13really quick
17:14I just feel
17:16bad about the way
17:17that I handled
17:18that
17:18I wish I would
17:19have backed off
17:20and just been like
17:21wait wait wait
17:21wait wait wait
17:22yeah she's talking
17:22to Layla
17:23oh great
17:24I do want to say
17:25though like
17:26it's disappointing
17:27because I feel
17:28like you don't
17:29have my back
17:29it's hard to have
17:30my back for somebody
17:31but what you know
17:32is it the full truth
17:35oh they're going
17:36at it
17:36oh well let's get
17:38a drink at the bar
17:38yeah let's get a drink
17:39like I know how
17:40you feel about
17:40Jesse but like
17:41how could you
17:42like do that to her
17:43I found out that
17:44my friend
17:44fucked the guy
17:46she did
17:47oh okay
17:48unless you're willing
17:49to like come back
17:50and like prove
17:50and like speak
17:51there's no way
17:52to prove that
17:52unless I come back
17:53with a lie detector test
17:54to do that
17:54ask me anything
17:56literally ask me anything
17:57I will not feel
17:58one question
17:58because I'm not
17:59fucking one
18:00I feel like she
18:02just needs to leave
18:02she needs to walk
18:03away because you
18:04cannot negotiate
18:05with a terrorist
18:05it doesn't work
18:06right now I only
18:08know one side
18:08of the story
18:09and I'm choosing
18:10to just
18:12stay on Jesse's side
18:13why do you want
18:14to be ignorant
18:14that's the most
18:15foolish thing
18:16I've ever heard
18:17I'll go save her
18:18I think you should
18:18I will
18:19I don't think
18:19it's my place
18:20but I feel really bad
18:21don't worry
18:21I will
18:22do you understand
18:23what I'm saying
18:23how ignorant
18:24I only know
18:25one side of it
18:26right now
18:27okay so say that
18:28and then don't say
18:29but I'm all in on
18:30Jesse
18:30say I don't know
18:31what to believe
18:32because I don't have
18:33the full truth
18:34that's the story
18:34thank you
18:35I don't have the full truth
18:37so I'm gonna be a dumbass
18:38and go lay all my eggs
18:39in Jesse's mouth
18:40okay well if you're gonna be mean
18:42that's not fair to me
18:43I don't deserve to be called
18:45a dumbass
18:45and be called ignorant
18:46that's fine
18:47and I want to tell you
18:48come on
18:49let's go
18:50don't entertain this
18:53oh my gosh
18:57she claimed that you had sex
18:59if that's the hill
19:00she's fucking dying on
19:01let's fucking go
19:02I have the
19:02she doesn't know
19:03we did a lie detector
19:03I have a lie detector
19:04results right here
19:05oh we actually have
19:06the results on us
19:07interesting
19:08what the fuck
19:09just knowing that Demi
19:11is still telling lies
19:12about me
19:13and trying to ruin my life
19:14conspiring against me
19:16I am so emotionally
19:17unstable right now
19:18I am just seeing red
19:19I knew I shouldn't have
19:20walked it by myself
19:21no
19:22oh she's mimicking you
19:23right now
19:24she's mimicking you
19:24fuck you
19:27fuck you
19:28you know nothing
19:29about the situation
19:30you know nothing
19:31Demi
19:32you know nothing
19:37fuck you
19:39Demi
19:40you know nothing
19:41you know nothing
19:42stay in your power
19:43stay in your power
19:44stay in your power
19:45you know nothing
19:45about the situation
19:46we know what you did
19:48we approve
19:49stay in the power
19:49stay in the power
19:50she will look like a moron
19:52don't be the moron
19:53don't be the moron
19:54don't be the moron
19:55let her
19:56she's disgusting
19:57she's gonna look like
19:58an idiot
20:00I know
20:01you have all the girls
20:02here to support you
20:02I know that
20:03she's looking stupid
20:04I know
20:04I'm actually really grateful
20:06that Taylor pulled me back
20:07because acting like Demi
20:08is my worst nightmare
20:09and in the moment I was
20:11she triggers me so much
20:12so having Taylor calm me down
20:14was really helpful
20:14oh wait I'm sorry
20:16what she just
20:16she looked at me
20:17and goes how was
20:17fucking Marciano
20:18and I said
20:19that's why I said
20:19fuck you
20:20she just said that
20:20in a room
20:20oh no she just went
20:22like this guy
20:22she was like
20:23no but she's like
20:24over there
20:25fuck you
20:26I called it
20:28no one
20:29no one listened to me
20:30I know
20:31I said it from the beginning
20:32no one listened to me
20:33I've taken a lot of time
20:36away from mom talk
20:38to focus on my mental health
20:40and to be honest
20:41seeing Demi and her behavior
20:43was kind of triggering for me
20:45based off of how she treated me
20:47I can't even like make eye contact
20:49with her right now
20:50it's just so nasty
20:51I'm like
20:53it's like hard for me
20:54to talk about the positive
20:56there's just so much chaos
20:58when it comes to us
20:59as a group of women
21:00we're headed to LA
21:02for press next week
21:04Demi is going to be there
21:06I'm definitely worried about that
21:08thank goodness
21:08okay she's gone
21:09oh
21:28hi welcome
21:29hi
21:33we're just here for my friend Miranda's
21:35oh awesome
21:37I love the hair
21:38thank you
21:39I'm bringing Mason today
21:40to Miranda's birthday party
21:41as my date
21:42not serious
21:43nothing crazy
21:44just getting to know each other
21:45I'm definitely glad that Mason
21:47doesn't think it's weird
21:48that I used to date his brother
21:50I would definitely put
21:51kind of
21:51a bump in the road
21:53no please
21:54that is so gross
22:02hello
22:02hi
22:08I can't
22:09I cannot
22:10what's up Layla
22:12why do I like it
22:13it's a slay
22:13he's like a super boy
22:16hello
22:16hello
22:17I don't know
22:17we essentially met
22:19we did once
22:20before my mission
22:20at like Lifetime
22:21well good to see you
22:22I'm sure you heard
22:23nothing but good things
22:24about me
22:24nothing but good things
22:25yeah
22:25I bet
22:27I think it's a little weird
22:29that Layla wants to date Mason
22:30since he's Chase's brother
22:31she's slept with Chase
22:33and like dated him
22:34it would be one thing
22:35if they were like
22:35this is really weird
22:36but we like each other
22:37but they're both just like
22:38what
22:39why is this weird
22:40hi
22:41I'm here for the
22:42party
22:43awesome
22:43you came to the right place
22:45hi
22:46how are you
22:47after Chase's appearance
22:49at Layla's birthday
22:50I'm very glad
22:51that he is not
22:52at Miranda's birthday party
22:53because I feel like
22:54it's just going to be
22:55less drama
22:55less stress
22:56but I'm also
22:57just relieved
22:58that Whitney didn't show up
22:59you and Mikaela are pregnant
23:00and we don't want
23:01that negative toxic energy
23:03you're fine
23:04I kind of just wanted to
23:05oh okay
23:05you look the same
23:06do I look the same?
23:07yeah
23:07do I look just like Miranda?
23:09yeah you do
23:15don't get me wrong
23:16I love getting glammed up
23:18for events
23:19but it feels like
23:20we've been doing
23:21a lot of that lately
23:22I kind of just wanted
23:23to do something
23:24a little bit more low-key
23:25it's my birthday
23:26and my birthday party
23:27and I'm a kid at heart
23:28what better way
23:29to celebrate
23:29than to go be kids
23:31hello
23:31happy birthday
23:34we're all Miranda today
23:36I don't know
23:36if I can be flattered
23:37or scared
23:39it's like looking
23:40in a mirror
23:40or like 12 of them
23:42Jason Mason
23:43definitely pulled it off
23:44better than I expected
23:45them to
23:46maybe they should go blonde
23:48wait how funny is this
23:50you're dressing up
23:51as your current boyfriend's ex
23:56yes I would say
23:57this group
23:57is a bit incestuous
24:00I'm glad
24:01that Miranda and I
24:02are to a point
24:02that we can joke
24:03about it now
24:03but I will say
24:05it keeps getting worse
24:07and worse as we go
24:09wait is that coming?
24:11no
24:11it's weird that like
24:12Dakota's not here
24:13Jordan's not here
24:13like we're just dwindling
24:15not all of us have
24:17a Jace in our life
24:17okay
24:18sorry honey
24:20outside of Macy
24:21I haven't really confided
24:22in anyone
24:22about my intimacy issues
24:24with Jace
24:24I don't want to kind of
24:26put my marriage
24:27in a light
24:28and be the next casualty
24:30of mom talk
24:31I think people see us
24:32as this perfect couple
24:33from the outside
24:34but clearly
24:35we are struggling
24:36with so much
24:36behind the scenes
24:37and after talking to Macy
24:39I want to talk to Jace
24:40and tell him
24:40that I've been looking
24:41into different options
24:42for therapy
24:43so I reached out
24:45to a therapist
24:45to do EMDR
24:47you did
24:48I did
24:49EMDR stands for
24:51eye movement
24:51desensitization
24:52and reprocessing
24:54it involves focusing
24:55on a traumatic memory
24:56while engaging
24:57in guided eye movements
24:58which helps reprocess
24:59the memory
25:00EMDR is just more
25:02focused on bringing
25:03up the trauma
25:03layer by layer
25:04and I've heard it's great
25:05for like sexual abuse
25:08I was so proud
25:10and really had a lot
25:12of admiration for her
25:13in having the strength
25:14to book that session
25:15for me it's not just
25:17physical intimacy
25:18or the sexual intimacy
25:19it's really hard
25:20for her to have
25:21an emotional
25:21vulnerable relationship
25:22with me
25:23she might be able
25:24to say love you
25:25as she's walking
25:25out the door
25:25but she can't actually
25:26like sit down
25:27and tell me
25:28how she feels about me
25:29I know she has
25:30definitely the harder
25:31half of this
25:32the biggest thing
25:33in her way
25:34is fear
25:34and rightfully so
25:36but for me
25:37it just kind of
25:38leads to me
25:38feeling like
25:40like my wife
25:40doesn't love me
25:41a lot of the time
25:44I'm a little bit
25:45nervous to do it
25:47just because I heard
25:48it's a little more
25:48intense
25:49I know I'm nervous
25:50about that too
25:51are you feeling okay
25:52like do you feel like
25:52you need me to
25:53come support you
25:54or anything
25:55no I think personally
25:57for me it's harder
25:57like when I do therapy
25:58I want to do it by myself
25:59I don't want to feel
26:00like I'm holding
26:01anything back
26:01because you're there
26:03I'm obviously so grateful
26:04that Jace is so willing
26:05to come and support me
26:06but I just feel like
26:08it would be best
26:08for me to just go
26:09by myself
26:10and kind of ease
26:11into it
26:12because I'm still
26:12not quite at a point
26:13where I feel like
26:14I have a safe place
26:15to do it
26:16in my marriage yet
26:17that makes me
26:17really happy honey
26:18I mean I'm sure
26:19it's going to be
26:20intense and hard
26:21but I'm really proud
26:22of you
26:22thank you
26:24all right
26:24well I'm thirsty
26:25and I'm hot
26:26okay let's go
26:26eat you some of that
26:27I love you
26:27love you baby
26:29all right let's eat
26:30I'm so hungry
26:32how does the wig feel
26:33I feel like it's
26:34going to get in my food
26:35I know
26:35welcome to be the woman
26:36every time I take a drink
26:37it's like
26:38this is going to get in there
26:39that's why there's
26:40always hair everywhere
26:41I can feel
26:48he's blonde out here
26:49he's in my pizza
26:50yum
26:51how are you doing
26:57good
26:58you're for the party
26:59yes I am
27:00she did come
27:01she did come
27:02oh god
27:03hello
27:12right on time
27:13the cloud chaser
27:14she did come
27:16she did come
27:18hello
27:20what the actual fuck
27:22first we see to me
27:23at the hydro jug event
27:24and now Whitney
27:24at Miranda's birthday party
27:26it's like the ghost
27:27of mom talks past
27:28haunting us
27:28this girl just loves
27:30to crash a birthday party
27:31like what's going on
27:32why is she here
27:33last I heard
27:35Whitney was
27:36not a part of mom talk
27:38nor did she want
27:39to be a part of mom talk
27:40Whitney left mom talk
27:41because she wasn't
27:42getting certain
27:43opportunities or more money
27:44and I do feel like
27:45all of us girls
27:46have been hurt by Whitney
27:47because we've invested
27:48our time and energy
27:49into the friendship
27:50and then she leaves
27:51when she doesn't
27:52get what she wants
27:52happy birthday
27:56you can feel the energy
27:58where it's like
27:59what the f are you
28:00doing here
28:01it's bad
28:02do I leave
28:03do I stay
28:05like I feel so uncomfortable
28:07right now
28:08do you guys want
28:08some pizza
28:09hi Whitney
28:10hi
28:11quite the appearance
28:12yes
28:13I feel like you're known
28:15to like surprise people
28:16at their birthdays
28:17this is like another one
28:18I was actually invited
28:19to this one
28:22so how do you know
28:23Miranda
28:23so I'm dating Chase
28:25oh cool
28:26where is he
28:26he's in New York
28:27for work right now
28:28sorry I just can't
28:29should we all leave
28:30yeah
28:31let's leave
28:32lighten the moon
28:33calm down
28:35based on how she
28:36left mom talk
28:37again I have
28:39zero intention
28:40of talking to Whitney
28:41I'm over it
28:42it's too draining
28:43for me
28:43she doesn't give a shit
28:44about anyone here
28:45not even Miranda
28:46no
28:46so it's like
28:46you don't come to
28:47someone's birthday party
28:48if you're not talking
28:49to them on a daily basis
28:50the fact that she
28:51walked in here
28:51shows how delusional
28:52she is
28:54I haven't seen you
28:55since
28:55it feels like half a year
28:57where are you guys at
28:58when mom's mother never
28:59leave
28:59um
29:00officially
29:01I mean
29:02I never left
29:04I just
29:05I got busy
29:06and started doing
29:06my own work
29:08so I never left
29:10Whitney
29:11never left mom talk
29:14oh Whitney
29:15oh gosh
29:17I definitely think
29:18sometimes Whitney
29:18lives in a different
29:20reality
29:20I feel like
29:21you're just gone
29:22you're just
29:23this is the first time
29:24I've been invited to
29:25I feel like
29:26you came back
29:26and then like
29:27peaced out on me
29:28well I did feel like
29:30it was
29:32transactional
29:33on your end
29:34wow
29:34that is like
29:35I don't even know
29:36how to relate with that
29:36it's only what's
29:38convenient for you
29:38like you're there for me
29:39if it's convenient
29:40for you to get back
29:41into mom talk
29:42that is the most
29:42delusional
29:43I'm so
29:44I'm so done with it
29:46it's so delusional
29:47if you were really
29:49there for me
29:49and you weren't
29:50actually using me
29:51to get back
29:52into mom talk
29:52why would you then
29:53become friends with
29:54Denise
29:54the one person
29:55that was bullying
29:56me during that time
29:57to be honest
29:57I'm still actually
29:58confused
29:59what she did to you
30:02what didn't she do to me
30:03she was posting
30:04nasty videos about me
30:06getting the whole group
30:07to turn against me
30:08like
30:09I'm just saying
30:10I expected more from you
30:11in what way
30:13I expected you not
30:14to jump to me
30:15right after
30:16me and Demi
30:16got close after
30:17you ghosted me
30:18that's when we got close
30:19after I ghosted you
30:20yes
30:20are you shitting me
30:22right now
30:22you're making no sense
30:23right now
30:25I'm sorry but
30:26this conversation
30:27is going nowhere
30:28like I
30:28I simply was just
30:29trying to tell you
30:30how I felt
30:31so was I Jen
30:33it's just frustrating
30:35I definitely think
30:36Whitney is only here
30:37for herself
30:38and her own
30:39opportunities
30:40and that our
30:41friendships
30:41within the group
30:43were actually never
30:44real or genuine
30:45to her
30:56help me take this wig
30:57off
30:57I'm getting too
30:58heated
30:59the wigs are coming
31:00off and things are
31:01getting heated
31:01you ready
31:02thanks so much again
31:04see you guys
31:05have a good one
31:08let's get out of here
31:10I was immediately
31:11met with hostility
31:12this is exactly
31:13why I didn't want
31:14to come back
31:15but there's this
31:16amazing opportunity
31:17dancing with the stars
31:18and it's something
31:19that I want
31:20so I'm going to go
31:20after it
31:21and there's no shame
31:22I can't stand her
31:23I'm not going to
31:24just let this go
31:25this time
31:25my main goal
31:26is to protect
31:27mom talk
31:28from Whitney
31:29her motives
31:30intentions
31:31and why she's
31:31really here
31:49one time
31:50I was at my
31:50IVF doctor
31:51and I was like
31:52okay I'm trying
31:53to see what
31:54my last schedule
31:54was like
31:55with my previous
31:56cycle
31:56and I was like
31:57see this is it
31:58and she looks at it
31:58and she's like
31:58okay I'm like
31:59what's that
31:59she's so smart
32:01and it was
32:02like a lingerie
32:03total I took
32:04for Jacob
32:04so I could jack
32:05off to it
32:07for IVF
32:08IVF
32:09for IVF
32:10that's the only
32:11reason
32:11I'm not
32:12I'm sorry
32:14not even a move
32:17we're gathering
32:18at my house
32:18to talk about
32:19the return of
32:20Whitney
32:20how we're going
32:21to handle this
32:21and what we're
32:22going to do
32:22I don't think
32:23anyone's really
32:24supportive of
32:24Whitney coming
32:25back
32:25we're really
32:26confused
32:26because she
32:27got voted
32:28back in
32:28and then chose
32:29to leave again
32:30if you leave
32:30you're like
32:31peace
32:31I'm out
32:32I hate
32:32you guys
32:32whatever
32:33don't come
32:33back then
32:34it needs
32:34to be a hard
32:35no
32:35so for her
32:36to show up
32:36now I think
32:37it's a little
32:37bit alarming
32:38and most of us
32:39are a little bit
32:40concerned about
32:41why
32:41did you guys
32:42see her TikTok
32:42did she change
32:43her hair again
32:45in case Alan
32:46needs a new
32:46partner
32:47she's gunning
32:48for Dancing
32:48with the Stars
32:49that's the only
32:50reason why
32:50she said
32:50and that's the
32:51only reason
32:51she's back
32:52because the Dancing
32:53with the Stars
32:53thing has been
32:54within the last
32:54week
32:55what's frustrating
32:55for me is like
32:56since the day
32:57that I met her
32:57I told her
32:58I wanted to go
32:58on Dancing
32:59with the Stars
32:59that is literally
33:00one of my dreams
33:01the minute she sees
33:02that there is an
33:03opportunity
33:03she's like
33:04oh wait
33:04I've always wanted it
33:05you guys
33:05there's no world
33:06where she can be
33:07back in mom talk
33:08it's done
33:08I will say
33:09there are going
33:10to be things
33:10coming up
33:11that Whitney
33:11will probably
33:12be at
33:12and Demi
33:13is coming
33:13so I think
33:14we need to
33:15as a whole
33:15come together
33:16and if I need
33:17to be that person
33:17to stand up
33:18to both of them
33:18which I will
33:19like face to face
33:20I will go up
33:20to either of them
33:21and tell them
33:22that they're not
33:23coming back in
33:24maybe like
33:25having you
33:25kind of be
33:26like the
33:26designated
33:27like leader
33:27like it's
33:28always been
33:28just so that
33:29like you're
33:29the voice
33:29of the group
33:30yeah no
33:30I second that
33:31I think that
33:31Taylor should be
33:32the one to
33:32kind of speedway
33:33being the leader
33:34yeah
33:34I think Taylor
33:35is the best fit
33:36to be the leader
33:37of mom talk
33:37she's not afraid
33:38to speak her voice
33:40and to have
33:41uncomfortable conversations
33:42all in favor
33:43of Taylor
33:44as the leader
33:45leading us forward
33:46into this crisis
33:47say aye
33:48aye
33:49aye
33:49aye
33:50aye
33:50crisis averted
33:51yes I am ready
33:53to step back in
33:53as the leader
33:54especially when it
33:55comes to Whitney
33:56or to me
33:57if the facts
33:57aren't lining up
33:58I will call them out
33:59Taylor can we kiss
34:00your feet now
34:01I've been waiting
34:01to do it for so long
34:03I do think mom talk
34:04needs to hash out
34:05the whole Whitney
34:06situation before we
34:07go to LA
34:07like I think we
34:08should have a meeting
34:09all of us together
34:10for mom talk
34:11to get to the bottom
34:12of it
34:12here ye
34:13here ye
34:13all hail Taylor
34:14shut up
34:19you should let me
34:20love you like I used to
34:38going into my first
34:39EMDR session
34:40I'm very nervous
34:41because I have
34:42a really hard time
34:43feeling comfortable
34:44or feeling like
34:45I have a safe space
34:46to fully talk about
34:47the abuse and trauma
34:48that's happened
34:49in my life
34:50hello
34:51Michaela
34:52yes
34:52I'm Joy
34:53nice to meet you
34:55but I'm excited
34:56to finally open
34:57the chapter
34:57and get to
34:58actually healing
34:59okay so I read
35:00your paperwork
35:01I think EMDR
35:02will be a great fit
35:03we do eye movements
35:03and we're really
35:05the goal is to
35:06desensitize this trauma
35:07you're going to
35:07kind of just be
35:08following your brain
35:09and kind of just
35:10letting your brain
35:11take us where
35:11it feels like
35:12it needs to go
35:13okay
35:13so basically
35:14what's going to
35:14happen is I'll
35:15start my hand here
35:16and I'm going to
35:16move it from side to side
35:17and I'll follow it
35:18just like that
35:23okay
35:24take a deep breath
35:27what are you
35:27noticing right now
35:28it's like my heart rate
35:29but it just feels
35:31yeah
35:31well you just feel free
35:32to say whatever
35:33you need to say
35:34this next time
35:34as that comes up
35:35okay
35:40okay take a deep breath
35:44what are you noticing
35:46it's hard
35:46because I feel a lot
35:47because I feel a lot
35:47of guilt around it
35:48growing up where sex
35:49isn't talked about
35:50you're kind of taught
35:50it's not okay to do this
35:52and then you're
35:54sorry
35:54it's okay
35:56take your time
36:04I feel like
36:05I feel like being put
36:08in situations
36:10that young
36:13where I didn't know
36:14what was happening
36:15and I didn't know
36:16what was right
36:17and wrong
36:18and then
36:19bringing it into my marriage
36:21just feeling the guilt
36:22of
36:23letting it not be
36:24important to me
36:27it's very confusing
36:28especially at that age
36:29you don't really fully
36:30understand what sex
36:31is at that age
36:32and then to have that
36:33kind of translate
36:33into marriage
36:34and be like
36:34I am allowed
36:35to do that now
36:36this is something
36:37that's like good
36:37and encouraged
36:38and I want to connect
36:39with my husband
36:40in that way
36:40but still feeling
36:42those similar
36:42confusing feelings
36:43and I think I just
36:44feel a lot of pressure
36:45right now
36:45because for him
36:46it's like
36:47this is so important
36:48to me
36:48and I want this
36:49to be important
36:49for you
36:50and I'm like
36:50well it's not
36:51and then I just
36:52feel angry
36:52and I don't want
36:53to tell him
36:53about everything
36:54that's happened
36:55because also
36:55I have
36:56a past
36:57of bringing it up
36:59to people
36:59and it was
37:00shut down
37:01I've opened up
37:02to Jace
37:03about the abuse
37:04that I endured
37:05as a kid
37:06but I've been
37:07very vague about it
37:08there's still a lot
37:09that he doesn't know
37:10just because it's
37:10too hard for me
37:11to talk about
37:14sorry
37:16it would feel
37:17really freeing
37:18to tell Jace
37:19about it
37:20but there is
37:20still that fear
37:21of not being
37:23believed
37:24it's like
37:25I have a hard time
37:25putting myself
37:26back there
37:28because I just
37:28think of my kids
37:29yeah
37:31my son's
37:32eight years old
37:33thinking I was
37:34this old
37:34when this happened
37:35yeah
37:36that is
37:38so there's
37:39a couple things
37:39that I'd recommend
37:40doing that I think
37:41would be really
37:42helpful
37:42kind of work
37:43through some
37:43of these other
37:44things first
37:44before we get
37:45back into EMDR
37:46like sex therapy
37:47would be really
37:48helpful for the
37:48two of you
37:49together
37:49really confronting
37:50these things
37:51that you've
37:52experienced
37:52and really
37:52like working
37:53on them
37:54I feel like
37:55mine and Jace's
37:55relationship has
37:56gotten really
37:57complicated
37:57I understand
37:58why the therapist
37:59is wanting to
38:00recommend couple
38:00sex therapy
38:01but the idea
38:02of it is still
38:03really scary to me
38:04and I don't know
38:05if I'm fully ready
38:06to tell Jace
38:07all the details
38:08of my abuse
38:09I don't want
38:10this to hurt
38:10my marriage
38:11and I don't
38:12want to lose
38:12Jace
38:13but at the same
38:14time I wish
38:14we could move
38:15on without
38:15bringing up
38:17this past
38:18I can send
38:18you some
38:18recommendations
38:19for some
38:19sex therapy
38:20that I'd
38:21recommend for
38:21that
38:39hello
38:39honey
38:40how are you
38:41I'm exhausted
38:45so tell me
38:45about it
38:47she thought
38:47it would be
38:47good for me
38:48to do another
38:48session
38:50not EMDR
38:51because she's
38:51like I think
38:51we can come
38:52back to EMDR
38:53she like
38:53recommended
38:54something like
38:55couple sex
38:55therapy or
38:56whatever it
38:56was called
38:58do you feel
38:59like that
38:59would be
38:59helpful
39:00I don't
39:01know
39:01because I
39:02don't know
39:02if this is
39:02necessarily
39:03things that
39:04we work out
39:05together
39:05I guess
39:06I don't
39:06know
39:07no I don't
39:08want you to
39:08feel alone
39:09in that either
39:10I don't want
39:10you to feel
39:11like this is
39:12just your
39:12problem
39:13and just
39:13your workout
39:14I would love
39:15to try the
39:16couple sex
39:17therapy
39:17this is
39:18something that
39:18I've been
39:19wanting to
39:19do for
39:20years and
39:21bringing it
39:21up kind of
39:22passively over
39:22the years
39:23I think she
39:24feels as
39:25though this
39:26is her
39:26problem that
39:27she has to
39:28handle on
39:29her own
39:30I would love
39:31to be able
39:31to better
39:32understand the
39:32issues and
39:33what you're
39:34dealing with
39:34I want to
39:35help you feel
39:35like you can
39:36heal
39:36I'm sure
39:37there's a lot
39:38of things that
39:38I can learn
39:39too from
39:40the couple's
39:41therapy and
39:42I look forward
39:43to doing
39:43that because
39:44I feel
39:44like when
39:45I'm learning
39:45things I
39:46think it'll
39:46also help
39:47her not
39:47feel like
39:48she's the
39:48only one
39:48that has
39:49to work
39:49on stuff
39:51it's like
39:51I want
39:51to be able
39:52to fix
39:52it
39:56it's really
39:57hard
40:22Taylor being the
40:24newly reinstated
40:25leader of
40:26mom talk
40:26ask me to
40:27invite Whitney
40:28over to
40:28my house
40:28for our
40:29mom talk
40:30meeting
40:30we have
40:31the LA
40:31press tour
40:32coming up
40:32and I
40:33think that
40:33it would
40:34serve
40:34everyone
40:35if we
40:36could just
40:36keep
40:36things
40:36professional
40:37so
40:38news open
40:40are you
40:40nervous about
40:41today
40:42I'm mostly
40:43nervous for
40:43Whitney
40:44more than I
40:44am for
40:45anyone else
40:45honestly
40:48Taylor and I
40:49of all people
40:49know that
40:50you're never
40:51going to get
40:51to a resolution
40:52unless you
40:53have those
40:53hard conversations
40:57hello
40:58hello
40:59I know
41:00it's so
41:00cold
41:01oh I'm
41:01so hungry
41:02yeah
41:05not
41:06not
41:07Whitney told
41:08all of us
41:09the other day
41:09that she
41:09never quit
41:10delusional
41:10she thinks
41:11she's in
41:11mom talk
41:12so when
41:12she's at
41:12these things
41:13it's either
41:13a replay
41:14of Miranda's
41:14birthday
41:15every single
41:15time
41:16or we
41:16get it
41:16cleared
41:16now
41:17I feel
41:18like it
41:19is my
41:19responsibility
41:21as the
41:21leader
41:22to call
41:23her out
41:23and if
41:24she's only
41:25here for
41:25business
41:26opportunities
41:26I at least
41:27want her
41:27to admit
41:28that
41:28before we
41:29go do
41:29all these
41:29group things
41:30together
41:30for us
41:31we're in
41:31the same
41:31hotels
41:32it's just
41:33like we
41:33want to
41:33fill
41:34of where
41:35you're
41:35at
41:36Whitney
41:36like are
41:37you
41:37in mom
41:37talk
41:38with us
41:38are you
41:38here
41:39for
41:39business
41:39because
41:40this
41:40is
41:40a
41:40sisterhood
41:41that
41:41is
41:42what
41:42we
41:42built
41:42off
41:42originally
41:43business
41:43now
41:44great
41:44yes
41:45but we
42:14you're
42:16see what's
42:16about to
42:17happen
42:17next
42:18hi
42:18Whitney
42:18hi
42:19yeah
42:20how's
42:21everyone
42:21doing
42:22good
42:23how are
42:23you
42:23good
42:24good
42:25thank you
42:30Leila
42:30is giving
42:31me
42:32the biggest
42:33stink eye
42:34right now
42:35why do you
42:36think it is
42:37I think
42:38it's because
42:38they probably
42:39heard about
42:40dancing with
42:40the stars
42:40and so
42:41they're like
42:41oh
42:42Whitney's
42:43only back
42:43filming
42:43because she
42:44wants
42:44dancing with
42:45the stars
42:46they're not
42:46wrong
42:48they're right
42:51we kind of
42:51just want to
42:52know your
42:52motives
42:53because
42:53obviously
42:54it went
42:55from
42:56not being
42:56in mom
42:57talk
42:57to
42:57you never
42:58quit mom
42:59talk
42:59so
43:00we're not
43:00gonna have
43:01people coming
43:01and going
43:01why are you
43:02here today
43:02what do you
43:03want
43:10why are you
43:11here
43:11we're not
43:11gonna have
43:12people coming
43:12and going
43:12why are you
43:13here today
43:13what do you
43:14want
43:15dancing with
43:15the stars
43:18after we
43:18had that
43:19vote
43:19I still
43:20felt like
43:20we didn't
43:21clear the
43:21air
43:22the vote
43:23didn't feel
43:24sincere
43:25so then I
43:26took that
43:26and I said
43:26okay so
43:27then this is
43:27strictly business
43:28mom talk
43:29is a business
43:30mom talk
43:30is not
43:31this sisterhood
43:31friendship
43:32I don't care
43:33what they
43:33fucking say
43:34at the end
43:35of the day
43:35you don't care
43:36about my
43:36feelings
43:36you don't
43:37care about
43:37me
43:38you care
43:38about
43:39yourself
43:39okay
43:39noted
43:41let me
43:41start doing
43:42that then
43:43so there's
43:44no need
43:44on your end
43:45for genuine
43:45friendship
43:46so I've
43:46tried and
43:47that's what
43:47I'm trying
43:47to express
43:48I spent
43:49the last
43:49few months
43:50trying to
43:50rebuild
43:51relationships
43:51so why did
43:52you quit
43:52the show
43:52why did
43:53you spend
43:54months
43:54rebuilding
43:54just to
43:55then leave
43:55and not talk
43:55to any of us
43:56I didn't so
43:57welcomed
43:57in the group
43:58I wanted
43:59to meet
43:59up with
44:00everyone
44:00and Demi
44:00was the
44:01only one
44:01that wanted
44:02to meet
44:02up
44:02like if I
44:05had to pick
44:06someone
44:06if it came
44:06down to you
44:07and Demi
44:07I'd pick
44:07you all day
44:08over her
44:08because she's
44:09a snake
44:10Demi and I's
44:11friendship is
44:11very authentic
44:12very genuine
44:13I'm very
44:13grateful for it
44:14did it take
44:15a lot to
44:15get to that
44:15yeah
44:16but the thing
44:17with that
44:18is it took
44:18both of us
44:20to have
44:20what we have
44:21today
44:21if you think
44:22that's a genuine
44:22friendship
44:23what has
44:23she done
44:24to you
44:24oh gosh
44:25but also
44:26she did awful
44:27things to you
44:28do you not
44:28remember Park City
44:29the way that
44:30Whitney talks
44:31and changes
44:31her persona
44:32in the moment
44:33of like
44:34I didn't
44:38she treated
44:39you like shit
44:40and she got
44:41the whole group
44:41to turn against
44:42you
44:42she was yelling
44:43at you
44:44as you're
44:44on the floor
44:44crying
44:45back off
44:46she's unstable
44:49I just think
44:50it's very
44:50interesting
44:50that it's like
44:51oh so
44:52now you think
44:53that what
44:53Demi did to me
44:54in Park City
44:55is wrong
44:55why didn't you
44:56think of it
44:56when I was
44:57bawling my eyes
44:58out in a closet
44:59interesting
45:00you think
45:00my friendship
45:01is convenient
45:01I think it's
45:02convenient
45:02that you're
45:03even bringing
45:03that up
45:05two can play
45:06at this game
45:07guys
45:09I was here
45:10it was disgusting
45:11sticking out for you
45:11when you were down
45:12and you chose her
45:13me being
45:14the bigger person
45:15because I'd been
45:16in her spot
45:16I felt bad
45:17for her that night
45:18at Miranda's house
45:19I feel like
45:20when people are
45:20struggling
45:20Whitney for example
45:21has been destroyed
45:22you know
45:23on the internet
45:24everyone's like
45:25when you freaking
45:26hate you Taylor
45:26like whatever
45:27but like
45:27I just want people
45:29to know that
45:29I've been there
45:30at the fucking
45:31bottom
45:31kicked
45:32and it sucks
45:33I appreciate that
45:34thank you
45:35so then I thought
45:36we were good
45:36we got past
45:37whatever she was feeling
45:39and to have her
45:40turn her back
45:41on me again
45:42like
45:43I think that
45:44shows who you are
45:45I did want genuine
45:47friendships
45:47and it just
45:48it never got
45:49to that point
45:50and I
45:51I'm exhausted
45:56sorry
45:56um
45:59but I think
45:59I just
46:00was so tired
46:01like trying to
46:02rebuild relationships
46:04that I cared about
46:05because it does
46:08it does
46:09really break
46:10my heart
46:11with relationships
46:12that I did have
46:15I think just
46:16sometimes
46:16friend breakups
46:18can like genuinely
46:19be harder
46:19than like
46:21freaking
46:21boyfriend breakups
46:23and spousal breakups
46:25normally I feel bad
46:26when people cry
46:27but I don't feel bad
46:28at all
46:29when Winnie starts crying
46:31I do feel bad
46:32I feel like when anyone cries
46:33I'm
46:34I'm just like a sucker
46:35for it
46:35I'm just like
46:35oh dang
46:36like let's just
46:36leave him alone
46:37like let's stop
46:38this conversation
46:38at the same time
46:40I know that there's
46:41no reason that she's
46:42here to be friends
46:43I know she doesn't
46:43want to be friends
46:44with anyone in MomTalk
46:45you still can't sit here
46:46and just take
46:47accountability
46:47and say you're right
46:48I'm here for this
46:49I know that
46:49I know
46:50I know that's
46:50your favorite word
46:51but yeah
46:52I'm filming
46:53because I was
46:54offered the opportunity
46:55to audition
46:57and I
46:57I'm so excited
46:58for one of us
47:00to get it
47:00and I'm not coming
47:01I'm not coming
47:01back to the sisterhood
47:03okay then
47:03what are you going to do
47:04you think you're going to film
47:05alone with none of us
47:06because no
47:07what do you think
47:08because I'm going to start
47:09my own MomTalk
47:10and hopefully
47:11I'm sorry
47:11good hell
47:12and hopefully
47:13like find a space
47:14that I feel welcome in
47:17Whitney
47:18oh my gosh
47:21I just
47:22I cannot
47:23I can't with that
47:25do it
47:26don't let the door
47:26hit you on the way out
47:49I'm waiting for Ash and Kutcher
47:51to walk out
47:51because we just got punked
47:53what the fuck
47:54Whitney is very business
47:56I think fame hungry
47:59and she will
48:00pretty much do anything
48:01to get there
48:02including being friends
48:03with Jimmy
48:04which is concerning
48:04to all of us
48:05I want to declare the air
48:07before we go to LA for press
48:09that didn't happen
48:10so I think it'll be really hard
48:12to kind of just
48:13keep it professional
48:15she wouldn't care
48:16about any of us
48:16if it wasn't for
48:17the opportunity
48:18and that's what sucks
48:22to be honest
48:23I wasn't really sure
48:24what to expect
48:25when Miranda
48:25invited me over today
48:26but I know
48:27two things for sure
48:28one
48:29I'm clearly not welcome
48:30in MomTalk
48:31and two
48:31I'm gonna get
48:32Dancing with the Stars
48:36oh she's back
48:54MomTalk is bigger
48:55than we could have
48:56ever dreamed of
48:56hey you have a star
48:57oh my gosh
48:58look there's all the girls
48:59I'm seriously pinching myself
49:01but behind the scenes
49:02with fame comes consequences
49:04it's a disaster
49:06I don't know
49:07how to handle it
49:07with Whitney
49:07I would never do that
49:08to somebody
49:09ever in a million years
49:10I do hope that MomTalk
49:11gets back to a sisterhood
49:13am I being played right now?
49:14I would rather view it
49:16as strictly business
49:19Taylor and Dakota
49:20are like all over each other
49:20girls
49:21where you had a long night
49:22last night
49:23I thought it was pretty short
49:24so how about that
49:25I love you last night
49:26did I say that?
49:27I have no doubt
49:27that she's loved my life
49:34for four years
49:35I lived another version
49:36of him
49:36how do I
49:37fully let go of that
49:38fear enough
49:38to move forward?
49:39there are times
49:40when I'm just feeling
49:41done with it
49:42maybe we do
49:42need to separate
49:43I just feel like
49:44it's getting harder
49:47you decide to stop filming
49:49why did you decide
49:50to come back
49:51for season three?
49:52oh
49:52her comments on it
49:53are disgusting
49:54what did she say?
49:54he's a sexual predator
49:55given what happened
49:57to both you and Michaela
49:58I would hope that
49:59you would be like
50:00hey
50:00if something happened
50:01I'm gonna believe you
50:02our situations
50:03are so vastly different
50:04you're taking
50:05a situation
50:06this big
50:07and using
50:08your position
50:09as a woman
50:09to make it this big
50:10that's victim shaming
50:12oh
50:12hell no
50:13it's my worst nightmare
50:15let's create an absolute
50:17shit show
50:17Jerry Springer
50:18that's what the people want
50:19let's give it to him
50:20yeah I love how you
50:20really feel brat
50:21if we don't figure this out
50:22I feel like mom talk
50:23has no future
50:28I'm the Phoenix
50:29yeah I'm the Queen
50:30I should feel my resurrection
50:34I'm the Phoenix
50:35yeah I'm the Queen
50:36I should feel my resurrection
50:43you can call me whatever you want
50:46no one's picking up the phone
50:48for sticks and stones
50:50all that I've overcome
50:52you don't reach my throne
50:54with your sticks and stones
50:56all of that
50:59yeah but that's what it's gonna be
51:02I'm the Phoenix
51:03you
51:03you
51:03you
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