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09:11C'était comme trois ou quatre jours.
09:14Je n'ai pas de dormir à l'heure.
09:18Évra's birthday.
09:18Oh, oui.
09:19Je veux faire un plan de quelque chose vraiment fun et cute,
09:21parce que c'est le premier.
09:22Je veux mon famille là.
09:24Je pense qu'il y a un petit bounce house pour lui.
09:26Et si vous voulez venir, vous pouvez.
09:28Je ne sais pas si vous voulez faire un autre ou un autre.
09:30Je voudrais faire un autre.
09:31Oui, je pense que c'est bon pour lui aussi, honnêtement.
09:34Oui.
09:36Alors, avec la mediation,
09:37je sais que nous avons parlé un peu,
09:40mais comment voulez-vous faire un autre ?
09:44Qu'est-ce que vous voulez ?
09:45Parce que j'ai de mine, mais je veux dire de yours first.
09:47Je pense que l'aube m'aûtûtûté
09:50à voice mon wants et boundaries à Dakota,
09:54mais je pense que je suis en un moment très clair
09:56de mon boundaries et de ce que je veux
09:58et de ce qu'on peut comprise sur,
10:00de ce qu'on pense que c'est le plus le plus le plus le plus le plus.
10:02Je dirais 50-50, mais je ne sais pas.
10:05Mais est-ce que tu peux faire avec le travail ?
10:07Je ne sais pas.
10:09Oui.
10:09Donc, je ne sais pas.
10:11Et nous pouvons toujours changer.
10:12Say, en l'autre, il n'est pas.
10:14Oh, oui.
10:14C'est ce que je ne sais pas.
10:15Je ne sais pas.
10:16Je ne sais pas.
10:16Je ne sais pas.
10:17Je ne sais pas si,
10:17si, si, c'est en ligne,
10:18c'est en place pour 10 ans.
10:23Je ne sais pas.
10:23Je ne sais pas.
10:24We ne sais pas.
10:24Donc, nous pouvons trouver ça.
10:25qu'on peut faire pour un an each other.
10:27Oui, si c'est ce qu'on veut.
10:28Mais que tu peux,
10:29dans l'autre,
10:30pour une fois,
10:31Dakota et Taylor
10:32qui est en train de faire,
10:33il va nous protéger pour notre part.
10:36Et je pense que c'est important
10:37de pouvoir aller.
10:39Oui, je veux qu'il soit heureux.
10:41Non, de course.
10:43Je dirais que je suis absolument
10:45dévastée et sad de être une seule mom,
10:48surtout postpartum.
10:49Je suis toujours un, vous savez,
10:51je suis une année.
10:52Je suis une seule mom
10:53avec trois enfants.
10:54Je vais avoir des moments
10:56de l'internet de se poser
10:57et de se poser,
10:58comment je suis ici encore ?
11:00Et oui, c'est un moment
11:01Being a really hard pill to swallow,
11:03However, there is a part
11:05that there's a lot of peace in my home.
11:07How was everything
11:08while I was gone though?
11:09What'd you do?
11:09J'ai avec anyone?
11:11There's some stuff that happened
11:13with Jordyn and Jessie
11:15right now that's going on.
11:17Really?
11:17Yeah.
11:18Yeah, you remember,
11:20I could never say his name,
11:22Marciano, whatever that guy's name,
11:25the whole...
11:26Villa.
11:27Villa thing.
11:28With Demi?
11:29Demi.
11:29Yes.
11:30That same guy,
11:31Jesse, like, cheated on Jordan
11:33with him. Cheated?
11:35Yeah, like, I don't know exactly
11:37what happened, but, like...
11:39There's no way.
11:41There's no way that's true.
11:42But Jordan's, like, broken.
11:46Yeah, no,
11:47it's real. At the villa?
11:49No. Like, it was, like,
11:51a hotel room. Like, he, like,
11:53stayed at a hotel room with her, dude.
11:55I am shocked to hear about
11:57Jesse Marciano, because
12:00I am thinking
12:01back to all of our conversations
12:03about Jen and Zach.
12:05I remember Jesse being, like,
12:07I don't want to say judgmental, but I had no idea
12:09that this was going on behind closed doors.
12:11Like, whoa, whoa, you had
12:13this? But, you know,
12:15you were kind of coming at her for this? I don't know.
12:17After the retreat, I really wanted
12:19to focus on myself, my kids.
12:21But things are going to get messy because people are going to
12:23start taking sides, hearing stories, so I do
12:25feel like I don't know what to do. But
12:27I'm going to try balancing both, and
12:29I don't know how I'm going to do that. That makes me
12:31really sad. Yeah, it's so sad.
12:34It's crazy.
12:53Hello. It's so cute in here. Hello.
12:57Thanks. I feel so fat.
13:00Tonight is
13:01Michaela's St. Patrick's Day birthday,
13:03and we're really excited. But
13:04Jesse called me and Michaela and told us
13:06that she has decided to separate
13:08from Jordan. It's honestly very
13:10shocking. But thinking about it more,
13:12I feel like it's probably for the best.
13:14It seems like there has been a lot more going on behind
13:16the scenes than we originally knew.
13:18How are you? How are you? I mean, I'm literally like,
13:20let me meet all the other things. I know, right?
13:22How are you? You guys look good. Thank you.
13:25Even though I'm grateful that Michaela invited me to her
13:27birthday party, feeling a little bit self-conscious,
13:30knowing the girls are thinking that I'm probably the mole,
13:33leaking information to Demi. Yes, I am still friends with Demi,
13:37but I don't tell her anything that's been going on in the group.
13:59Hey, look who it is.
14:02The prodigal son returns.
14:05How are you doing?
14:15Michaela's birthday party is the first social event
14:18that Jordan and I are attending while being separated.
14:21I really am just trying to put on a happy face
14:24and be there for her.
14:26Jordan and I, we did go to a couples therapy session
14:28and we did decide that it's a 90-day separation.
14:31How that's going to work is check-ins here and there.
14:34We're doing it once a week and every week there could be progress made
14:38or there could be setbacks
14:39and we're not talking about our relationship with each other
14:42outside of therapy.
14:45Can I just get a nice water?
14:47Thank you.
14:48You don't have to?
14:51Basically, like on a 90-day plan.
14:54The intention for the 90 days is to, you know,
14:58find our way back to one another,
14:59but that's only if we feel that it's right.
15:02I'm up and down for sure, but it's for the best.
15:05Like, it needed to happen because regardless of what I did,
15:08like, we had issues before it.
15:09Sure.
15:10Well, I feel like that kind of, kind of like the whole swinging thing, right?
15:13It's like me and Chase's divorce, like, was not related to that at all,
15:16but it's also like, clearly when you end up in a position like that,
15:20Yeah.
15:21It's probably not rainbows and butterflies.
15:22Yeah.
15:23To be honest.
15:25Irish sausage, anyone?
15:26Ew.
15:27It's just a sausage.
15:29Don't be alarmed.
15:30Maybe it's just black pudding, and maybe it's not sausage at all.
15:33Did you try one?
15:34You'll offend my ancestry if you don't try it because...
15:36You're not even Irish, are you?
15:38I can't do it.
15:39May our Irish ancestors curse you guys for a thousand years.
15:42My mom said that there's Irish on my grandpa's side, so...
15:45I might be related to Ben Affleck.
15:48I a thousand percent hustle on my team.
15:50Oh, I don't.
15:51Oh, I do?
15:52That's great.
15:53Get it.
15:54I decided to bring Bria tonight to Michaela's birthday party
15:57and just kind of have a friend there for me.
16:00I feel like there's a lot of tension still brewing from my birthday party.
16:03I'm fucking pissed.
16:04Because I invited someone to my birthday,
16:05but you guys make literally everything so fucking negative all the time.
16:08Well, great.
16:09Happy birthday.
16:10A lot of faces here that I wasn't expecting.
16:13I didn't give her a plus one, but it's fine.
16:16Are you going to talk to me?
16:17I think I need to.
16:19I think I need to pull them aside for a second.
16:21Definitely, there's some weird feelings right now at the party, for sure.
16:24I don't want Michaela's birthday party to go anywhere near where mine went.
16:28Should we go chit-chat?
16:31I just hope that they can take accountability for their end where they fucked up,
16:34and I can take accountability for my lack of communication,
16:36and we can just kind of just bury this.
16:38I just feel like right now we're really starting to lose sight of what MomTalk is.
16:44Okay, well, I felt like we just needed to talk after what happened at my birthday thing.
16:50That got intense, yeah.
16:51It got very intense.
16:52I want to first just apologize for how heated it got.
16:55There's definitely moments that I feel like I definitely lost my cool a little bit.
16:59I should have reached out to you guys and gave you guys a heads up that Chase was coming,
17:02but I just think how I felt about him coming wasn't necessarily being completely heard.
17:07It felt almost like my opinion got a little bit shut down.
17:09That makes sense.
17:10No, I appreciate that.
17:12I was definitely heated, too.
17:13So I'm sorry for how heated I got.
17:15Not at Chase.
17:16I'll do it again.
17:17But just towards you.
17:19Emotions get high and words start flowing.
17:21Yeah, let's not let Chase come in between us.
17:24Come on, we're real high.
17:24I know.
17:25I've never seen you get so mad.
17:26You haven't seen me pregnant.
17:28Like, our friendship needs more than all these gross, toxic men.
17:31Yeah, I agree.
17:32It's like a common theme in our friendship that it's like...
17:35It's toxic men.
17:36No.
17:36Oh.
17:37That, too.
17:38No, just communication.
17:40Like, don't you feel like every conversation we get in or any argument,
17:43it's like the communication could have been better.
17:45Yes.
17:45Honestly, they care about our friendship.
17:47MomTalk is what matters.
17:49At the end of the day, MomTalk is all about taking accountability and growing.
17:52And so I can appreciate that Layla's finally sticking up for herself.
17:56She's finally finding her voice.
17:58We have enough drama going on outside of our group
18:00that it's more important now than ever for MomTalk to stick together
18:03and to be a united friend.
18:06That was so good.
18:12Hey, listen up, everybody.
18:14It's birthday cake time.
18:16Made it myself.
18:18Amazing.
18:20Amazing.
18:23It's a good thing we didn't overreact to that, Jessie.
18:26It's a good thing.
18:27That's like...
18:29Did you guys see Jen and Zach went to trick-and-down?
18:31Yes.
18:31Yeah, what was that about?
18:33They made Halloween such a big deal
18:35and got so mad at us for doing that.
18:37And then it's like, yeah.
18:38Yeah.
18:39And then it's like, yeah.
18:43There's the guy.
18:44There's our boy.
18:45Our man.
18:51Telling Jen that they were all like, you know, they were like, 10 feet away from her.
18:59Well, I'm glad that they, like, worked it out.
19:01Yeah.
19:02Even though it's weird Jen and Zach went to Chippendales, it does make me believe that
19:06they actually were ready for exposure therapy.
19:08And maybe this is a good sign that Zach's willing to let that side of him go.
19:13But when I do see Jen again, we have a lot to catch up on and talk about.
19:16And now I'm adding this whole Chippendales thing to the list.
19:19How are you doing with everything?
19:20I'm like, okay.
19:22Ooh, I want to read you guys the text that I have.
19:24So I've been thinking of ways that I can, like, prove Marciona wrong.
19:27So I'm like, there's got to be a way that, like, I can prove my side.
19:31And so I went through all of our text messages and I found, like, five or six different ones
19:34that I feel, like, condemn him.
19:36Like, it shows that, like, condemn him, like, take him down.
19:39I didn't think he thought this through.
19:41Yeah.
19:41And so I'm like, well, thank gosh you saved them.
19:44I know.
19:45He only thinks with one of his heads and it's not the one attached to his shoulders.
19:48Obviously, it was never like, we didn't have sex.
19:50Like, why would you say that?
19:50But I feel like these are pretty damning.
19:52So the first one is he said, let's go, mom, lol.
19:56And I said, ha, ha, ha.
19:57Are you calling me that because I'm old?
19:58And he said, well, no, ha, ha.
20:00But you are my sugar mama.
20:01I can't stop thinking about your vagina.
20:03I fucked up and want redemption.
20:04Ew, what a nasty ass.
20:06And so he's basically saying, like, I messed up.
20:08Like, I want redemption.
20:09I have never felt so uncomfortable in my life.
20:11She's almost excited to, like, clear her name by these texts.
20:15But at the same time, they're a little bit kinky and a little bit gross.
20:18He said, this is disgusting.
20:20I can't even, like, read this all out.
20:22The real question is, do you think you can handle me?
20:25And I said, I'm not sure.
20:27I want to find out.
20:28I hate myself.
20:29It's definitely very weird that Jessie is sharing with us the sex between her and Marciano and Jordan is not
20:36two feet right behind her.
20:37He said, so you think you're ready to dive into the deep end?
20:41And I said, well, what do you mean by that?
20:43He said, I'm no kiddie pool if you get what I'm saying.
20:46I just feel like it's really weird with Jordan sitting right there.
20:49Poor guy.
20:50So basically, he's, like, warning me about how he is, which, how would I know?
20:52How would you know that if he didn't?
20:54Reading back these texts from Marciano to the girls is definitely cringey and embarrassing.
20:58I actually can't believe how disgusting I am.
21:01But I will say that I do think these texts prove that we didn't sleep together.
21:05So even though it's humiliating to read these right now with what I'm going through, I need MomTalk support more
21:11than ever.
21:11So I really need to find a way where I can prove my innocence and shut down this rumor.
21:16Okay, this is the one that I think is the most damning.
21:18He said, I'm very much looking forward to it.
21:20And I said, same here.
21:21And he said, I would be lying if I said I wasn't curious about your recent surgery as well.
21:25I definitely want to try it out, which is, like, you would know.
21:29Mikayla's party today is a good reminder of how much fun we can have in MomTalk.
21:32However, I feel like there is a dark cloud kind of looming over us.
21:36Looking through these texts with Jessie, it does seem like it's proving her innocence.
21:40So as Jessie's good friends, I feel like it's our responsibility to step up and get to the bottom of
21:46this and help Jessie out.
21:56That's the game.
22:00That's the game.
22:03That's the game.
22:06Ooh.
22:0826 weeks.
22:10I think I'm 26 weeks now.
22:11That's gone by so fast.
22:13Can you believe it?
22:13How are you feeling?
22:14Back in Utah, at least for the next couple weeks?
22:18I feel good.
22:19I feel happy to be here.
22:22As I'm getting closer to my due date, Zach and I have decided to move back to Utah so I
22:27can be close to my midwife again.
22:30To be honest, it's been nice being in Arizona and being isolated from everyone where no one's really in your
22:35business.
22:35So this is going to be a trial run.
22:38We'll see how it goes.
22:39Yeah, if it ends up bad, I'm packing my bags and I'm going back to Arizona.
22:45What's on the agenda?
22:46So I've got the Emco Beauty event, which I'm so excited about.
22:50Are all the girls going to be there?
22:52I think so.
22:53So that's going to be your first time seeing them?
22:55Yeah, because I'm doing the event with Taylor and Layla.
22:58Yeah, that should be interesting.
22:59Layla, Taylor, and I have an Emco Beauty event coming up next week.
23:06The three of us are ambassadors for this brand, and it's crazy to see how many brands are taking interest
23:12in MomTalks.
23:13But aside from Taylor, I haven't really talked to the other girls.
23:19Here we go.
23:21Oh, my gosh.
23:23Wait, it's actually so cute.
23:26Oh, do you want to go look around?
23:28What do you think?
23:29Babe, did you see this?
23:31You think I'll be able to dance on this bad boy?
23:33You want to test it out?
23:35Oh, wait a minute.
23:36I don't know if this is safe.
23:38Okay, play the jam.
23:44As long as they have a countertop, I'm sold.
23:47Bubba, look it.
23:49There's a piano.
23:51Come on, let's play.
23:54Man, it's been a minute.
23:56You're going to love this.
23:57One of your many hidden talents.
23:59Yeah.
24:00Honestly, it's...
24:01I feel like this is what I need right now.
24:04I just need music.
24:15It's one of the first songs I ever wrote.
24:18I feel excited to be coming back to Utah, but my biggest worries with Jen coming back and
24:23being part of MomTalk would be these girls, no matter how much effort I put, no matter
24:29how well I treat Jen, they all have strong opinions on me and our marriage and just won't
24:34stay out of it.
24:35I just don't think that's what it should be like with your real friends.
24:38And so I'm hoping that everyone has grown and matured and that she can feel the support
24:43that she needs about to have a baby.
24:50Thank you very much.
24:50Can you clap for Mama?
24:52She's like, ask me better.
24:54Can't take it back, nothing to do about it now.
25:00I think that time is running out.
25:04What can I say about it now?
25:07Do you want me to finish the dishes?
25:09No, can you make us a snack?
25:11Because Mikayla is coming over more.
25:13I'm hungry.
25:14I'm assuming she's hungry.
25:16That's why I'm saying we're hungry.
25:17Hello.
25:18Come on in.
25:20What's up, guys?
25:21What's up?
25:22So did you guys talk to Jordan at all last night?
25:24I did.
25:25We sat down at the bar, just kind of talked for a few minutes, and he was just saying
25:29like how horrible it is.
25:31I invited Mikayla and Jace over to get to the bottom of this whole Marciano situation.
25:35I do feel like Jacob and Jace are just as invested as being Mikayla, because they're
25:40also friends with Jordan, and we just want to know what's the truth and what's the lie.
25:45Well, and Jesse was talking to all the other girls about their situation while he was just
25:49like five steps behind.
25:51The first one, as he said.
25:54We need to get to the bottom of this, is what we've realized.
25:57Yeah, you guys do.
25:58Yeah.
25:58We need to get the truth.
25:59I might message him and see if we can meet up with him to get to the bottom of everything
26:04and just interrogate him.
26:05This is new hair.
26:06This costs so much.
26:07You're spreading it.
26:09Where does he live?
26:10He lives in Vegas.
26:11I guess.
26:12Is this important enough to you to drive down to Vegas and meet with this guy?
26:16Yeah.
26:16So that way he doesn't say anything on social media.
26:19And don't you think we're kind of scary?
26:21Uh, maybe for like the last six months since you've been pregnant.
26:26So do you think he'd actually admit to it?
26:28I feel like we need to watch a good charity video.
26:29I don't think he's the brightest fool.
26:30If you have me and Macy there to be like, did it happen or didn't it?
26:33Yeah.
26:34Then I feel like he'll, he'll crack.
26:36Okay.
26:37The first thing we have to do.
26:38You have to build trust.
26:40No, yeah.
26:40At first you're their friend.
26:41You're like, I love your DJ videos.
26:43It's going to be a wet, hot summer.
26:46It's going to be a wet, hot summer.
26:49You've been working out in the villa.
26:51You could not say that with a straight face.
26:54I could invade.
26:56Don't sit within an arm, a hand's reach of that guy.
27:00Dude, you got to starve him too, right?
27:01I'm like, no water.
27:02You can't take a sip.
27:05And then you confront them with the evidence.
27:07Hopefully he doesn't freaking whip up some other messages that say they did sleep together
27:11or something.
27:12Thank you.
27:12You just have to talk to Jess and like, show us everything.
27:14He doesn't even have any.
27:14We're really prepared.
27:15Let's role play.
27:16Okay, Makayla.
27:18All right.
27:18You're a bad cop.
27:19So, Jace is sitting there.
27:21Well, you know, you got to sit like, this is the table, okay?
27:23Oh, this is it.
27:24So, she's bad cop, so she has to sit closer to you.
27:26What is this face?
27:27I'm good cop.
27:27Ooh, that girl is so sexy.
27:29No, he would say that.
27:30Shut up.
27:31I'm so happy you came to meet me here.
27:33Yeah.
27:34Actant.
27:35You don't do the accent.
27:36We're not playing.
27:37Remember, you have to intimidate him.
27:38Okay.
27:38So, you have to kind of like, lean in.
27:41Y'all like that.
27:44She lays it and he's like, oh yeah, let's start.
27:47What is that?
27:49What is that?
27:50Why are you putting it right there?
27:51You shine the light on his face.
27:52I didn't get that light on my face.
27:54The only light I want near me is the self-tanning light.
27:58And then I'm going to come in and be like, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
28:01So, tell us about that night then.
28:03We got back to the hotel room and we did it.
28:05And do you remember?
28:06Do you remember this night?
28:07Of course I remember the night I was there.
28:09What were you wearing?
28:11I don't remember what I was wearing, except for my clothes were so stained from our sexual
28:16activity.
28:18You said that I don't remember.
28:19We did.
28:20Well, if you don't remember, then it must not have happened.
28:22Yeah.
28:22And that doesn't hold up in court.
28:23So, sorry.
28:24I'm praying to get a confession from Marciano that he lied about Jesse and him sleeping together.
28:29You can't prove I didn't do it.
28:31We can't prove you didn't do it.
28:33I think it would be helpful for everyone to move forward if we could clarify if this is
28:37a lie or not.
28:38And if there's one thing MomTalk is good at, it's getting to the bottom of a scandal.
28:42I feel pretty good.
28:44I'm pretty good.
28:44I'm hungry again.
28:54I think there's a possibility I could be pregnant.
28:57What makes you think that?
28:58I have weird cravings.
29:00Oh?
29:00Water.
29:05Are you excited to go to Beaver, Utah?
29:08I'm so excited to go to Beaver.
29:10I've been dying.
29:11It's my dream destination.
29:12Road trip.
29:17Okay.
29:17Here we go.
29:18Here we go.
29:19Get to the bottom of this.
29:21This is going to be great.
29:23Two and a half hours.
29:24Here we go.
29:26So, me and Michaela reached out to Marciano.
29:28And, of course, he said yes, because, you know, two married women are on their way to
29:31meet up with him.
29:32He's probably more excited now than ever.
29:34Not going to lie.
29:35I'm already getting a little hungry.
29:38I'm always hungry.
29:39We also asked Jessie if it was okay for me and Michaela to sit down and chat with Marciano.
29:43She gave us her nod of approval.
29:44So, we decided to meet him in Beaver because Beaver is halfway between where we are and Vegas,
29:50where Marciano lives.
29:52We should be stopped for the next 20 minutes.
29:54Beaver is a three-hour car ride away, which I can't think of anything more exciting than
29:59being pregnant on a three-hour road trip.
30:02Are we close yet?
30:03Are we close to that gas station?
30:05We could be in this.
30:06Ew.
30:07Finding out the truth is very important, not only just for Jessie, but also for MomTalk
30:12as a whole.
30:13Oops.
30:14Damn it.
30:15I just closed my car.
30:17We've had a lot of scandals.
30:18And so, I feel like if we get to the bottom of this, it will help MomTalk as well.
30:25Okay, I have to be so bad again.
30:28Are you serious?
30:28No, I'm going to paint my pants.
30:30Ah!
30:30Okay, fine.
30:31I'll take the exit.
30:33Here, I'll just open this door.
30:35So, then you just hide between the two doors.
30:37Just put your butt on the very edge of the car, like right here on the very edge, and then
30:41spread your legs open, and then it just goes right down.
30:45Oh, I don't know about that.
30:46It's easy.
30:47Okay, what if I get it on my shoes?
30:49That's when you spread them out.
30:50Wait, but my pants!
30:52You don't have to just go slow.
30:53Wait, I've never done this before.
30:55I can't.
30:58I'm literally going to get it all over my pants.
31:00No, you're not.
31:01Yes, I am.
31:02Okay, this feels better, right?
31:05Go slower.
31:06You're going to get it all over.
31:09Ew, it's on my shoe!
31:12It's because you shot it out, people.
31:14You're going to have to take my shoe off.
31:16Ew, I don't want to touch your pee.
31:17Hold my pants up.
31:18We would have been at the gas station right now.
31:31I know that Macy and Michaela are off trying to clear my name, which I really appreciate,
31:35but there is a lot of work I still need to do on myself and my marriage.
31:40The marital issues Jordan and I are going through right now, it's bigger than just the Marciano thing.
31:45It goes back three to four years.
31:47Jessie?
31:48Yes, thank you for meeting with me.
31:49Nice to meet you.
31:50Nice to meet you.
31:51Tasha, come on in.
31:53It's hard because I do feel like over the years I've developed a numbness to everything.
31:59Maybe the separation is good because I can work through that and learn how to cope with that and like
32:03feel the emotions,
32:04but I do feel like I've developed a numbness because it's easier than feeling the sadness.
32:09I just want to know a little bit about you, why you're coming in, what you're wanting some help with.
32:13Yeah, so my husband and I just recently separated.
32:16We've had like a very tumultuous relationship, I would say.
32:19We've had a lot of ups and downs to the point where I did cheat on him in September.
32:23Okay.
32:24So I broke that trust and I did something so stupid,
32:27but I think there was a piece of not feeling validated at home and I was feeling really broken.
32:32I think I was with someone who kind of perpetuated that a little bit to the point where like my
32:36self-confidence was gone.
32:38Okay.
32:38How are you feeling about the infidelity?
32:40Like are you in a space of self-grace?
32:43Self-shamed.
32:44The first few days were really hard for me because I felt like I wasn't even deserving to drink water
32:48if I was thirsty.
32:49Like I really struggled like the first two days just being like, I don't deserve anything.
32:52Like I made this huge mistake and like, I just don't deserve anything.
32:58There was also the element that Marciano, the guy I had the emotional affair with,
33:02he was like infatuated with one of my friends and she was married too, but it was like,
33:06I don't really fully know what happened, but like me and her were best friends
33:09and we had just kind of had a falling out where she made me feel really small.
33:14Demi, any little mistake I would make or if I went against what she thought, had a different opinion,
33:20it was talking down to me and I'm disappointed in you.
33:23Are you worried Demi was willing to take a bigger contract,
33:26even if it meant you potentially being dropped from the show?
33:28We can't run away from this.
33:29It was just hurtful to me that as a friend, you wouldn't support my business.
33:33I just, and I said that to you.
33:34But hair is so, that's my whole life.
33:37It's not, you're not a good friend.
33:39So I just kind of put myself in that position where she was on a pedestal above me.
33:44And since she also acted that way, I felt like she was in the right.
33:48But now that our friendship's over, I'm realizing how unfair and how awful it was.
33:52Maybe there was a part of me that knew he was attracted to her.
33:55And since she didn't make me feel good enough, like I was like,
33:57oh, if he thought I'm good enough, then I must be.
33:59Because he thought she was good enough and she made me feel less than.
34:02If I had to ask you right now, what do you like about yourself?
34:05What would you tell me?
34:09In really giving, I would let anyone move in with me, get the shirt off my back.
34:13Like I know that like I have that quality and I like that about myself.
34:17But I also hate it because I feel like it gets me walked all over.
34:20And I've definitely had like lack of boundaries in relationships because of it.
34:24What do you like about yourself physically?
34:28Nothing.
34:29Nothing.
34:33Wow.
34:35I feel like I've really struggled with like trying to change things.
34:38Like I actually think a lot of it is, I mean, it's tied to how I feel like I'm not
34:42good enough.
34:42But I also like have an online platform.
34:44And I think the biggest hate I get is about my looks.
34:47Like people tell me I look like a man that like transitioned into a woman or I look 70 years
34:51old.
34:52So I think I've also like internalized a lot of those comments because it's like the biggest thing I get.
34:56So you wouldn't say I'm beautiful or I'm sexy?
34:59No.
35:00No.
35:01Not at all.
35:02Yeah.
35:03Okay.
35:04We've got to work on that.
35:05Yeah.
35:06I know.
35:08I have always struggled with low self-esteem and low confidence.
35:11And because I was in a relationship that made me feel so beaten down, I do think it's a huge
35:17reason why I cheated.
35:19With all of this coming out about especially the infidelity, which quite frankly, I just want to say out of
35:25all the sins out there, it's brutal.
35:28Yeah.
35:29People treat you brutally when they find out that this has happened, even though it's very, very common.
35:34Yeah.
35:35I think I'm worried about that because my self-worth is already really low.
35:38And again, I'm prepared for like whatever people say about me because I deserve it and I know that.
35:43But I think it's going to make me worse, like my internal like self-worth.
35:48And so I really want to like work on myself before this becomes super public because I know it's going
35:53to affect me.
35:56Hello.
35:57What up?
35:57How you doing?
36:21Hey, it's time to go full FBI on this bitch.
36:25Full FBI.
36:26Hi.
36:27Okay, but what is this place, Macy?
36:30Where did you find this place?
36:32Is that a bathroom?
36:33A shag?
36:34I hope that's not the only bathroom here.
36:36The hanging voodoo doll?
36:40I definitely don't think we have to worry about people listening in on our convo here.
36:46How cute.
36:48How cute.
36:48Come on here.
36:49Hello.
36:50Hi.
36:54Is this good at this table?
36:56It's finally time to put our interrogation skills to work.
36:59I swear to God, I swear to God, if he doesn't show up, I would be so pissed.
37:03Marciano definitely knows he has a lot to answer for, especially if he is lying about this situation.
37:07So if I were him, I would be scared shitless, to be honest.
37:11Should we get some, like, guacamole?
37:14Yeah.
37:14I'm too hungry.
37:16What are you talking about?
37:18But I met Marciano in the villa, and I could tell that he was a clout chaser, so I know
37:23that he knows cameras are going to be here, so I feel like he's going to show up.
37:26If he comes over here to hug us, side hug only.
37:31I'm not getting up.
37:32Clear with me that he just wants the clout.
37:34If he decides to show, at least he decides.
37:56Marciano walks through the door.
37:58I feel like he's gotten a lot more Botox from the last time I saw him, because he's looking
38:01extra shiny.
38:03He's got the lip gloss on.
38:05I feel like I have the same feelings about him from in the villa, which I feel like he
38:08just gives off gross energy to me.
38:15So you asked me to meet up.
38:16What's up?
38:18Well, we've been here in a lot.
38:20I think we just want to hear your perspective on everything here, because I feel like it's
38:24so, like, everything is not coming together, so we kind of want to fill in the gaps and
38:27see, like, what's really true.
38:29Okay.
38:29All right.
38:30Well, then let's, all right.
38:31Yeah, we're going to dive in here.
38:32Okay.
38:34This is now the moment we have been waiting for to finally put the puzzle pieces together.
38:38We want to know for sure if Jesse's telling the truth about not something with Marciano,
38:42and we want to get some answers on what really happened with Demi at the villa.
38:46Did you and Demi kiss in Italy?
38:48Oh, dude.
38:51Oh, God, you guys.
38:55Um.
38:59If I go admitting for that, it's just, like, I just don't want a war.
39:01I don't want a war with it right now.
39:02I feel like you're also starting a bigger war with Jesse right now, saying that you guys
39:06have slept together.
39:08I feel like I know what the truth is, but I just, like, want to hear it.
39:12I.
39:17Did you guys kiss you and Demi?
39:21Dude.
39:26All right, fuck it.
39:27It happened.
39:33Was this all on camera, or this was off camera?
39:36Off camera.
39:36In the villa?
39:37Yeah.
39:38Even though Marciano said the kiss happened, I don't know what to believe right now.
39:42There's no proof of it.
39:44It's getting hot in here now.
39:45Holy cow.
39:45But wait, just to clarify, though.
39:47Okay, let's fast forward to the Jesse stuff, because that's what I'm more curious about.
39:51Oh, my God, I can tell.
39:56Uh-huh, totally.
39:57Oh, my God, man.
39:58You guys are funny.
39:59You know that?
40:00Yeah, we actually do.
40:01We are the funny ones in the group.
40:02From the night in L.A., how, like, in your perspective, in your eyes, how did that night
40:07go down?
40:07Drinks were starting to flow.
40:09Everything was just kind of, like, you know, fun and playful, whatever.
40:13Yeah, very flirty.
40:14Like, one thing led to another, where we went back to her room, and I was getting the hint
40:19that, like, I should stay.
40:20So, um, yeah, we hung out and talked to her about that.
40:24And you kissed her?
40:25Yeah.
40:25Yes.
40:26I woke up the next morning, and, uh, she was like, Jordan's been calling me, and, like,
40:31I need you to leave, because he's trying to FaceTime me.
40:34Okay, she said that.
40:35And I was like, okay, all right, I'll leave.
40:37When you woke up, you were fully clothed, like, there was...
40:39No.
40:41I was in my boxers, I think.
40:44You told Layla that you guys had slept together.
40:47Was that just your memory of it, or, like, you know that for a fact?
40:51Yeah, I guess it just, like, you know, was one of those things I think I probably shouldn't
40:56have said.
40:56Yeah.
40:56And, you know, I'm gonna look like a liar, and it's okay.
40:59So you didn't sleep together?
41:06No.
41:09Okay.
41:11Holy shit, we got Marciano to admit that he has been lying about sleeping with Jesse,
41:16and I'm like, thank God, finally, but also, now the question is, why did he lie about this?
41:21So do you feel like you still have feelings for Jesse?
41:24Yes, 100%.
41:25Okay.
41:25Do I still feel like...
41:26Like, romantic feelings.
41:27Yeah, yeah, 100%.
41:28I'm curious, when you met up with Layla, then, why you told her that you slept with Jesse?
41:36I think I was being influenced.
41:40Influenced by who?
41:44Demi.
41:49Influenced by Demi?
41:50Yeah.
41:50So did Demi tell you to say that you slept with Jesse?
42:02Yes, you guys!
42:04Taylor!
42:04I do want to get back to why we started this, because MomTalk has been a complete shit show.
42:09Do we need more people, or are we good?
42:12Oh, shoot, you guys, Marciano's here.
42:14Demi is doubling down on the me and Marciano had sex narrative.
42:18I do need to get the truth out of him, or else, to be honest...
42:22Friend or Marciano's friend?
42:23I'm Jesse's friend.
42:24I don't care about Jesse right now.
42:25We don't have a friendship.
42:26Okay.
42:27I'm gonna go do a live, actually, and tell everyone about Jesse.
42:30I'm sorry to fucking stop her.
42:31Fucking psychopath.
42:37Can we start again?
42:41No, I really don't know how.
42:44And if you could say you're sorry, would that make it better now?
42:49Ooh, loving you is worth the pain.
42:56Ooh, will it be a losing game?
43:12Ooh, will it be a losing game?
43:17Sous-titrage FR ?
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